After testing all the compact suv ICE vehicles, I took a spin in an ID.4. That experience led me to order one the following day. The car has been wonderful, with only a couple of little niggles related to interior lighting algorithms. That should be corrected in future software updates. The car is smooth, quiet, roomy, handles beutifully, and is very well constructed. Rather than spending $160 per month on gasoline, the ID.4 has used less than $20 per month in charging costs on a Level 2 garage charging station. No more oil changes, etc., etc., etc. For the naysayers out there . . . if you want a car with a 'Frunk', buy a car with a 'Frunk', and stop complaining!
I'm so far away from being able to afford an electric vehicle, but I keep watching your videos because they consistently deliver in terms of quality and entertainment. Please keep up the great work.
If I had to buy an electric vehicle, this model would be at the top the list. Volkswagen has it priced appropriately, given it classic Germanic styling/engineering and is from a proven reputable automotive brand. Finally there is a compelling electric product. Though I’m not giving up on gasoline anytime yet. Thanks for the video.
@@babyganga8786 not any more...Teslas went up 10% this week...again! Not to mention all the quality issues still arising (door/windows that don't close, panel gaps, and sometimes very quick battery degradation; range decreases on many Tesla models quicker than some other EVs)
More electric vehicles need to look and operate like this, a normal vehicle that happens to be electric rather than a gadgetified tupperware container. I think they would have been more popular years ago if the manufacturers had went with that strategy. They spend so much money on the marketing and styling and then throw that out to make the thing look unique for the sake of being different. They already did the design work just focus on the little stuff like the dial shifter frees up console space. This is a good effort from Volkswagen.
You promised this review and you delivered! Thank you and well done as always!! And, you guys are so fun to watch together. I too am convinced that the AWD model is the way to go; especially living in BC. I sure hope that VW will keep the price point so that we can take advantage of the Fed and Provincial rebates.
In my 2023 ID4, I can use voice commands to control the radio, climate control, and navigation. So I rarely use the buttons or the touch screen - especially when I am driving.
The Model Y is 76k now... this is 53k after the rebate. And Tesla is still having build quality issues. If you want more luxury go buy a Q4 progressiv for 65k, 11k less than the Model Y. I called several VW Ontario dealerships and they said if I order now it might take 12 months to get an ID4. Anyways, thanks for the great review. Edit: Model Y is now 87/88k CAD. And the 2023 ID4 AWD top trim is 62k. The ID4 still gets the 5k rebate.
I know you get the upper trim on any car you or anyone else test but I really would like to see someone test the lower trim version of a car. I know you tested the ID4 but everytime I see a Ionic5 tested it is their most expensive version. Some of us like the everyday trim version, not the most expensive. Great video. Liked the drive in my neighborhood!
I’ve seen a few of your reviews now, and I really enjoy them. Thanks sharing the info! I’m in the US and I wish we could get a heat pump, but luckily I live in the southwest and it won’t be that big of a deal for me. I also find it funny that everybody complains about it not having a frunk. People don’t seem to get that VW would have had to take away from interior space and make the hood longer in order to have a frunk, or they would have had to make it a bigger vehicle all the way around, which would have pushed the price up. I think they made a good choice with what they did here.
Really fine review as usual, folks. I think VW has hit the bullseye on the target they set for themselves -- an EV that drives like a conventional dinosaur juice drinker. More than sufficient power in the AWD model for the vast majority of drivers. Aimed squarely at the most popular SUV size segment. A price point that even without a tax rebate won't cause most consumers willing to purchase a new vehicle to run screaming from a VW showroom. And importantly, looks that aren't reminiscent of a spaceship from a 1930's Flash Gordon movie serial. Personally, I find the looks of the forthcoming KIA EV6 and the Hyundai Ioniq5 appealing but I think VW is right that a more conventional looking SUV appeals to a wider range of consumers. After all, despite the hype associated with EVs, the 2% "take rate" is about the same as the vanishingly small minivan market in the US. There is a huge potential market among folks who would feel comfortable in a "stealth" EV, just as so many have moved to "stealth" hybrids. And while the neck snapping acceleration of high performance EVs will excite internet fanboys, the price for that performance means only a tiny minority will ever sign up such vehicles (or have the credit rating to qualify to do so.) Range anxiety and the absence of a home charging option for many will continue to constrain the EV market for a while. But here in the US the recent infrastructure bill passed by Congress will pump about $7.5 billion into expanding the network to half a million recharging stations. And a substantial segment of consumers will opt for an EV as a "second" vehicle and discover that their "first" vehicle is actually not used nearly as much as they had anticipated. With a kid shortly off to college and a shortage of supply I'm resisting the temptation to purchase a new car at the moment. But I suspect that in a year or two, the next inhabitant of the garage will need a level two electric power source.
I think a big problem with the Tesla Model 3 and Y is that the instrument panel is just *TOO* different than your regular car, which means relearning a lot of things.
They missed the opportunity to mention that the gauge cluster display is mounted on the steering wheel column so the position of the wheel doesn’t affect visibility. That’s excellent design in my book.
Is the Ioniq 5 review coming anytime soon? Great video as always! I’m pretty sure your husband knows and is very grateful, but you’ve really helped turn this channel into something special.
We would love to drive the Ioniq 5, just waiting for it to come in. Once it arrives, we will definitely review it. Thank you so much for the kind words, happy you are enjoying all the content. Doing the reviews together has been amazing for the channel 👌🙏
@@benjaminsmith2287 For sure, that one is next. So glad we just drove them Tesla Model Y so I can see whether these new ones have some similarities or how different they are.
Hello guys! Thanks for the great review! One thing I would like you to bring into the conversation is a 'range anxiety' with respect to Canadian distances, extreme terrane and adverse weather conditions in many parts of the country. I was one of many hundreds stranded near Hope when it was cut out by the mudslides in November. When all these cars poored into the town after nights of idling, they all went to gas stations, and it took an hour in the line to fill up. Imagine, 10 years from now with most electric cars on the road, they got stranded in Hope, or in the middle of the Coquihalla, or 97C connector, or Sea-to-Sky - in winter, and have to run their heaters to stay warm. How would you charge them up or evacuate, how would you keep the passengers warm? Can you risk driving an EV from Vancouver to Kelowna in winter, after learning what may happen, also considering, that the range reduces in cold weather? When I was choosing between model Y and RAV4 Prime, and was thinking about this again when idling at night in Hope, I was glad I went for the Prime. Yet, I can do many kms in the EV mode in the city. Would these recent events suggest that in our climate and terrain pure EVs are mostly practical in high density urban areas? Perhaps, it is reasonable to say in the reviews that potential buyers need to review their driving needs and habits more critically before making the final decision?
I test drove rwd ID.4, it was smooth ride and it drives very well. But I’m going to test drive other evs such as Toyota bv4x, Nissan Ariya, I do want something a little futuristic.
@@MadCuzUBroke that's not accurate at all. The first electric vehicle was built in the 1800s. Electric vehicles are not new or futuristic. It's an old power source modernized for profit.
Nice review. Don’t like the gear-selector at all. But the display is certainly better than the Mach E. Tesla is still the standard bearer for EVs though in my opinion
I am model 3 owner. Its true i used the fruck only to keep charge cables. I was looking for ev suv but found model y very expensive. But this is car to consider trying. Thanks for great review
I live in Europe and have had the chance to try a wide range of the newer EV's: VW ID.4 GTX, Audi Q4 e-tron, Tesla Model Y, Hyundai Ionic 5, Kia EV6, Polestar 2. Regarding comfort, ride quality and handling, to my surprise, the VW ID.4 GTX is no doubt amongst the best, in my opinion they made the best set of compromises. The GTX is AWD and 299 HP and is also using different components for the suspension, not sure if that model will also be available in Canada.
Really needed to double up the stats! LOL.... My cards are off, please keep that in mind that it can be turned off, you should put them in the description. Really neat you can find 4 EV's to compare too!!! Now the Subaru and Toyota to join in! Great Vid!
This was a great overview. Andrea looked like she was having so much fun (until Zack asked her to stop :) funny how Andrea said recently she wasn't quite ready for an EV yet, and she was worried about speeding tickets (as a Cayenne owner). Looks like Porsche isn't the only part of the VW group that likes to have fun :)
I was having a lot of fun, that quick acceleration is so satisfying. However, I don't really think you should drive it that way as it really eats into the range.
@@andreaspencer9813 good point Andrea, however the same is true about gas or diesel cars, it's just not as noticeable with their longer range. As long as you have good charging infrastructure and sufficient EV range for your needs, it's ok to drive more aggressively and have some good clean EV fun...within legal speed limits, of course! :)
Hey loved your presentation. Didn't quite see your demo with the driving modes but you seem so happy that you must have been driving in sports mode. You can get 500km on a full charge with the right conditions driving in economy mode.
The ID4 according to VW does not have the front trunk to give the cabin a lot more space, the front is very short on the VW, while the Mach-e has a long front end.
Excellent review. Sad that the base AWD doesn't have power drivers seat. I get that this is a more budget friendly model but come on...$50K and no electric seats???
Lovely Niagara on the Lake. I was there in 1981. Visiting relatives. It's a long flight from Australia to Toronto. VW. have said no to us down under for any EV. The cost is one factor. Lack of a certain policy on the environment is the other. I also could not enjoy a wine or beer. I was 20 and did not meet your legal requirement of being 21. It's 18 down under. Cheers.
Good job hitting the points that most people are looking for information wise...worthy of a Subscription to your channel. It's undoubtably a decent vehicle, however still quite a bit out of my price range. I want to go electric mostly because gas prices are getting ridiculous and I'm trying to save as much money as I can by investing in efficiency wherever I can. What I would love to see is a smaller "bare bones" electric car with at least 200km range below $20000. Something for a middle aged bachelor like me that doesn't need such a big vehicle with all the bells and whistles. I'm thinking of a two door hatchback like the Fiat 500E would fit the bill for some inexpensive basic transportation. As long as it has a cooling/heating system that keeps the battery healthy for many years and capable of highway speeds is what is important to me. Also, I use a wheelchair. So 2 door models, which usually have larger doors are a lot easier for me to put my wheelchair in the backseat.
I’m impressed they’ve sold out through end of 2022. Quite interesting mainline company progress, but it seems like Ford is doing a better overall mainline company approach assuming the f150 lightning lives up to expectations. Great review!
@@bmw803 I agree! I’m deep down the waiting list, I don’t really need a pickup truck, but as potentially my first all electric (not daily driver) I think will be quite fun! It’s on my bucket list of vehicles to own.
Flash forward 2 years, and the depreciation on these in the used market is huge. I checked locally, and I can pick up a '21 VW ID.4 Pro RWD with 15K miles for only $23K. Almost a 50% depreciation rate over 3 years!
While in Hong Kong, tesla are everywhere becoz of the rebate, that brings model s to around ca$57,000, just a little more expensive than a normal prius (ca$54,000) or other hybrids. Here, tesla most likely compete with ioniq ev, kona ev, e golf, but the problem here is often takes hours of lining up in paid car park(ca$10+/hour +charging fee) for charging. I once was thinking about buying a phev in canada soon. Since more people living in houses that charging at homes are much easier. Somehow, the price of ev n hybrids in canada is STILL very discouraging.
The only problem with the heated windshield is that it will be very expensive to replace when stone chips/ cracks happen because of Canada’s terrible roads. I own four vehicles and they all have chips/cracks in them from other vehicles picking up road debris and flinging it into my windshields. Traditional windshield defrosts are still a better option.
It should be interesting to see how the Toyota BZ4x compares to the other EV offerings that are out there! It looks a little more futuristic than the ID 4.
I’ve had 4 Tesla and rarely used the frunks. I drove the VW ID4 rwd and while it was lackluster… it rode quite well better than my Model Y performance, which unfortunately rides extra hard on 21’s. The VW UI isn’t that great . I am considering this awd version for dec delivery to offset some 2021 tax liability
VW needs to offer the heat pump in the USA as well. At least in the AWD version. Half of the country needs it. Some States like North Dakota, Minnesota and Wisconsin are colder than many areas in Canada. Come on VW America.
You had me from heated windshield! More SUVs should have that. Not everyone has long arms for these tall and wide cars. Don't have an EV yet, wonder how much you could save with the free charging for someone who drives about 15-20k a year.
All those gadgets are nice until something goes wrong. More crap they put on, the more to go wrong. Just turn the heating on and blast the air in the windshield. No need for this extra problem waiting to occur. Unless they make it like the rear window, then it might be ok, because I've never had issues with a rear defroster.
Good review. I just wondering if anyone knew whether you can set the cameras to record all the time for instance if you're in the parking lot overnight
Great review! I really loved the ID4 when I test drove one, but the price was out of my reach. $15k more than my Taos! Even the $7500 rebate is useless, unless you’re rich enough to need tax breaks. EVs are still for the wealthy. 💔
finally...an ev for the masses..and does not look like something the Jetsons would drive...see Kia and Hyundai are coming out with some comparable models too...will be very interesting to see all manufacturers line up for our $$ soon...what will big oil do...although...do not think the internal combustion engine is going anywhere for a while...to many and until the price of ev's are even more affordable will still see the Civics and Corrola's on the road for years..great review...enjoy the vino..
Except, to my knowledge, those aren't technically available yet. At least not here. I would agree though. Plus the Toyota Bz4x and Nissan Ariya, which should be next year?
I have one question on the ID4 that If you are a Fiat 500c driver you definitely have come across it. Can you allow fresh air into the car without turning on the heating or ac or climate control? I have to turn on the climate heating or fan which uses up the driving range. Thanks Bob
Hi there, I’m struggling to choose either my reserved 2023 highlander hybrid or the ID4, I drive all most 100miles a day. I live in SF bag area, and the gas price in here is about $4/gal, which vehicle should I go for ?
Annectdotal stories aren’t really helpful. Even if that is true, it could be for a myriad of reasons like overcharging or charging in the cold. Cite your sources to be the most helpful if you are going to make a claim like that.
Awesome details review looks like a more premium than a Tesla Zach / Andrea does it have a control somewhere on steering wheel to change the level of regen ?
Your point about the the power that these new ev's are being given does worry me a bit.When the younger generation start getting their hands on cars that will do 0-60 in 3-5 seconds i fear that speeding tickets might be the least of our worries.That applies to a lot of people that would consider themselves as good drivers too.
In my Tesla against hopped up BMW and Porsche, I can generally get across the intersection before they’ve gone two car lengths. I slow down to the speed limit a quarter block ahead and let them speed if they want but I can be quick without going fast. Feels good every time I blow away these expensive gas mobiles.
At the time I'm watching this the starting price for the Model Y in the US is now around $60K....they keep creeping the price up over the last 6 mo or so.....plus the wait list is crazy....I just saw a Tesla channel on here with a headline of "Sold out until 2023" Crazy. Great video as always!
I bet Tesla is putting the price up because the US government is bringing in a new rebate, so tax dollars will make up the difference. Crazy.... Buying people cars, not a good move.
Traditional console shifters are a huge waste of interior space…I do t get the hate for newer rotary types. As Zach said, it took a week or 2 to get used to the rotary in my car.
Hate the dial shifter. So awkward going to reverse. The stick shift is a waste of cabin space. The shift on the wheel is great. No issues except that max regen is a 2 step process.
Oh nice! I knew it would be smooth ride. Still pricey tho. Question, What’s a heat pump? What’s it do? Great few laughs and great show! Thanks for showing it Andrea! Oh by way, didn’t you get a wine there? 😆 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
Scott, a heat pump is like an air conditioner that can be flipped over to heat, as well as cool. The big advantage is efficiency. The heat pump will use 1/4 to 1/3 of the electricity that resistive heaters would use. So this is a big deal in Canadian winter.
How much of a difference does the heat pump make in this car? Read that VW was refunding some buyers that paid for a great pump because it wasn't helping improve efficiency as they advertised.
I like the Jaguar heated windshield! Why doesn't everyone do that? Have you ever reviewed a vehicle with voice controlled HVAC and or accessories? It seems the time is right for this, in light of the "future is now" design and tech of all these EVs. It would do away with all of that touch screen silliness!
Well after buying Land Rovers for my wife for the last 20 years, we have decided her next vehicle will be an electric SUV. We are not ready to dive in just yet as we think the market is going to evolve for the next few years and some standardization will become pronounced. Other than the charging plugs that is. What I don't like about most of the EV market is the lack of dedicated controls. I have seen the same thing happen in aircraft once glass panels came out. After folks got over the touch screen idea, the development of remote dedicated knobs for various things like auto pilot emerged. I hope this will become the case for EV's as many folks don't want to navigate screens to turn the seat warmers on or off or touch a screen multiple times to change the fan speed.
Thanks for the review, as always great information! I am not sure why Hyundai IONIC 5 or KIA EV 6 were not mentioned in comparison, I believe ID4, EV6 and IONIC 5 are going to be the main players in the non-premium EV market.
When the ID4 came to the USA, I was really bummed we didn't get the cool HUD I saw in European reviews. With navigation turns arrows getting bigger as you got closer. I guess they had to hit a price point or something.
All automakers, especially in the mainstream categories, have to "hit a price point." In the US the ID4 AWD comes in at or below the average price of a new car (assuming a $7500 tax break.) It's a brilliant configuration.
After testing all the compact suv ICE vehicles, I took a spin in an ID.4. That experience led me to order one the following day. The car has been wonderful, with only a couple of little niggles related to interior lighting algorithms. That should be corrected in future software updates. The car is smooth, quiet, roomy, handles beutifully, and is very well constructed. Rather than spending $160 per month on gasoline, the ID.4 has used less than $20 per month in charging costs on a Level 2 garage charging station. No more oil changes, etc., etc., etc. For the naysayers out there . . . if you want a car with a 'Frunk', buy a car with a 'Frunk', and stop complaining!
Had one, sold it because the software is bad
Yeah, same experience here. "smooth, quiet, roomy, handles beautifully". Love ours.
I'm so far away from being able to afford an electric vehicle, but I keep watching your videos because they consistently deliver in terms of quality and entertainment. Please keep up the great work.
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words. We really appreciate it.
Buy TSLA
@@tubetop123 How is the performance of TSLA 10 months later?
@@wyw201 stopped out long ago. Everyone should have automated stops for every stock, so your risk is limited
@@tubetop123 What's the average timeframe of your trades?
If I had to buy an electric vehicle, this model would be at the top the list. Volkswagen has it priced appropriately, given it classic Germanic styling/engineering and is from a proven reputable automotive brand. Finally there is a compelling electric product. Though I’m not giving up on gasoline anytime yet. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching, we are really impressed with this EV
Top trim is only 5k less than a model 3 400km range, I'd go with a Tesla at that price difference....
@@babyganga8786 not any more...Teslas went up 10% this week...again! Not to mention all the quality issues still arising (door/windows that don't close, panel gaps, and sometimes very quick battery degradation; range decreases on many Tesla models quicker than some other EVs)
@@babyganga8786The model 3 is a sedan the ID.4 is a SUV.
More electric vehicles need to look and operate like this, a normal vehicle that happens to be electric rather than a gadgetified tupperware container. I think they would have been more popular years ago if the manufacturers had went with that strategy. They spend so much money on the marketing and styling and then throw that out to make the thing look unique for the sake of being different. They already did the design work just focus on the little stuff like the dial shifter frees up console space. This is a good effort from Volkswagen.
Great review guys! I find the ID4 much more visually appealing than Toyota’s announced bz4x. 👍
Thank you! Me too.
I agree. The Toyota & Subaru.
Yo, yo!!! You'll offend Scotty Kilmer. Nothing can top a Toyota. They're the god of anything on 4 wheels.
Just with the price the bz4x doesn't make any sense
You promised this review and you delivered! Thank you and well done as always!! And, you guys are so fun to watch together. I too am convinced that the AWD model is the way to go; especially living in BC. I sure hope that VW will keep the price point so that we can take advantage of the Fed and Provincial rebates.
Thank you so much, really happy to hear you enjoyed the review. Awesome!
In my 2023 ID4, I can use voice commands to control the radio, climate control, and navigation. So I rarely use the buttons or the touch screen - especially when I am driving.
The Model Y is 76k now... this is 53k after the rebate. And Tesla is still having build quality issues. If you want more luxury go buy a Q4 progressiv for 65k, 11k less than the Model Y. I called several VW Ontario dealerships and they said if I order now it might take 12 months to get an ID4. Anyways, thanks for the great review.
Edit: Model Y is now 87/88k CAD. And the 2023 ID4 AWD top trim is 62k. The ID4 still gets the 5k rebate.
Hm, Andrea's opening driving scene smile was a good sign for this EV! 👍🏻
Even though I’m currently not looking at getting a car I really like your videos. The two of you are well balanced in your reviews.
Thank you so much, glad you like them.
I know you get the upper trim on any car you or anyone else test but I really would like to see someone test the lower trim version of a car. I know you tested the ID4 but everytime I see a Ionic5 tested it is their most expensive version. Some of us like the everyday trim version, not the most expensive. Great video. Liked the drive in my neighborhood!
I’ve seen a few of your reviews now, and I really enjoy them. Thanks sharing the info! I’m in the US and I wish we could get a heat pump, but luckily I live in the southwest and it won’t be that big of a deal for me. I also find it funny that everybody complains about it not having a frunk. People don’t seem to get that VW would have had to take away from interior space and make the hood longer in order to have a frunk, or they would have had to make it a bigger vehicle all the way around, which would have pushed the price up. I think they made a good choice with what they did here.
Really fine review as usual, folks. I think VW has hit the bullseye on the target they set for themselves -- an EV that drives like a conventional dinosaur juice drinker. More than sufficient power in the AWD model for the vast majority of drivers. Aimed squarely at the most popular SUV size segment. A price point that even without a tax rebate won't cause most consumers willing to purchase a new vehicle to run screaming from a VW showroom. And importantly, looks that aren't reminiscent of a spaceship from a 1930's Flash Gordon movie serial.
Personally, I find the looks of the forthcoming KIA EV6 and the Hyundai Ioniq5 appealing but I think VW is right that a more conventional looking SUV appeals to a wider range of consumers. After all, despite the hype associated with EVs, the 2% "take rate" is about the same as the vanishingly small minivan market in the US. There is a huge potential market among folks who would feel comfortable in a "stealth" EV, just as so many have moved to "stealth" hybrids. And while the neck snapping acceleration of high performance EVs will excite internet fanboys, the price for that performance means only a tiny minority will ever sign up such vehicles (or have the credit rating to qualify to do so.)
Range anxiety and the absence of a home charging option for many will continue to constrain the EV market for a while. But here in the US the recent infrastructure bill passed by Congress will pump about $7.5 billion into expanding the network to half a million recharging stations. And a substantial segment of consumers will opt for an EV as a "second" vehicle and discover that their "first" vehicle is actually not used nearly as much as they had anticipated.
With a kid shortly off to college and a shortage of supply I'm resisting the temptation to purchase a new car at the moment. But I suspect that in a year or two, the next inhabitant of the garage will need a level two electric power source.
I think a big problem with the Tesla Model 3 and Y is that the instrument panel is just *TOO* different than your regular car, which means relearning a lot of things.
They missed the opportunity to mention that the gauge cluster display is mounted on the steering wheel column so the position of the wheel doesn’t affect visibility. That’s excellent design in my book.
Is the Ioniq 5 review coming anytime soon?
Great video as always! I’m pretty sure your husband knows and is very grateful, but you’ve really helped turn this channel into something special.
We would love to drive the Ioniq 5, just waiting for it to come in. Once it arrives, we will definitely review it. Thank you so much for the kind words, happy you are enjoying all the content. Doing the reviews together has been amazing for the channel 👌🙏
@@andreaspencer9813 And its sister too, please, the EV6.
@@benjaminsmith2287 For sure, that one is next. So glad we just drove them Tesla Model Y so I can see whether these new ones have some similarities or how different they are.
I’d buy one today if available! Great Review guys…
Thank you, glad you liked it!
Great review! Love how well you work together and Andrea's upbeat personality is so dang attractive!
Awesome, thank you so much!
You answered all my questions on ID4 as a normal car driver, thanks.
Really happy to hear that, thank you!
Hello guys! Thanks for the great review! One thing I would like you to bring into the conversation is a 'range anxiety' with respect to Canadian distances, extreme terrane and adverse weather conditions in many parts of the country. I was one of many hundreds stranded near Hope when it was cut out by the mudslides in November. When all these cars poored into the town after nights of idling, they all went to gas stations, and it took an hour in the line to fill up. Imagine, 10 years from now with most electric cars on the road, they got stranded in Hope, or in the middle of the Coquihalla, or 97C connector, or Sea-to-Sky - in winter, and have to run their heaters to stay warm. How would you charge them up or evacuate, how would you keep the passengers warm? Can you risk driving an EV from Vancouver to Kelowna in winter, after learning what may happen, also considering, that the range reduces in cold weather? When I was choosing between model Y and RAV4 Prime, and was thinking about this again when idling at night in Hope, I was glad I went for the Prime. Yet, I can do many kms in the EV mode in the city. Would these recent events suggest that in our climate and terrain pure EVs are mostly practical in high density urban areas? Perhaps, it is reasonable to say in the reviews that potential buyers need to review their driving needs and habits more critically before making the final decision?
All good points.
Did You review the Volkswagen ID buzz 7 seater? Your reviews are the best on UA-cam
I test drove rwd ID.4, it was smooth ride and it drives very well. But I’m going to test drive other evs such as Toyota bv4x, Nissan Ariya, I do want something a little futuristic.
I found the RWD ID4 feels quite heavy
None are futuristic. It's just a battery with a screen.... Nothing futuristic about this..... Just paying 15k more for a vehicle
@@yellowsnowman9157 electric cars aren’t even 10 complete years old so they’re still futuristic
@@MadCuzUBroke that's not accurate at all. The first electric vehicle was built in the 1800s. Electric vehicles are not new or futuristic. It's an old power source modernized for profit.
Nice review. Don’t like the gear-selector at all. But the display is certainly better than the Mach E. Tesla is still the standard bearer for EVs though in my opinion
Heated windshield, interesting option for Alberta specially when it comes for replacement
yea, even if it is heated, the side windows are not and still a pain in the ass xD
I am model 3 owner. Its true i used the fruck only to keep charge cables. I was looking for ev suv but found model y very expensive. But this is car to consider trying. Thanks for great review
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
I seen so many v loggers who review the cars. But you are really the best reviewer I ever seen so far. Keep it up .
Wow, thanks!
Thank you for your review! I like exterior design, but don’t like the design of control panel.
I live in Europe and have had the chance to try a wide range of the newer EV's: VW ID.4 GTX, Audi Q4 e-tron, Tesla Model Y, Hyundai Ionic 5, Kia EV6, Polestar 2. Regarding comfort, ride quality and handling, to my surprise, the VW ID.4 GTX is no doubt amongst the best, in my opinion they made the best set of compromises. The GTX is AWD and 299 HP and is also using different components for the suspension, not sure if that model will also be available in Canada.
Really needed to double up the stats! LOL.... My cards are off, please keep that in mind that it can be turned off, you should put them in the description. Really neat you can find 4 EV's to compare too!!! Now the Subaru and Toyota to join in! Great Vid!
Good to know, I didn't know you could turn the cards off.
This was a great overview. Andrea looked like she was having so much fun (until Zack asked her to stop :) funny how Andrea said recently she wasn't quite ready for an EV yet, and she was worried about speeding tickets (as a Cayenne owner). Looks like Porsche isn't the only part of the VW group that likes to have fun :)
I was having a lot of fun, that quick acceleration is so satisfying. However, I don't really think you should drive it that way as it really eats into the range.
@@andreaspencer9813 good point Andrea, however the same is true about gas or diesel cars, it's just not as noticeable with their longer range. As long as you have good charging infrastructure and sufficient EV range for your needs, it's ok to drive more aggressively and have some good clean EV fun...within legal speed limits, of course! :)
Hey loved your presentation. Didn't quite see your demo with the driving modes but you seem so happy that you must have been driving in sports mode. You can get 500km on a full charge with the right conditions driving in economy mode.
Good review, I always look forward to your videos. Some vehicles interest me more, however you do choose a good variety.
Thank you, we appreciate that. We do try and mix it up on the channel.
The ID4 according to VW does not have the front trunk to give the cabin a lot more space, the front is very short on the VW, while the Mach-e has a long front end.
Excellent review. Sad that the base AWD doesn't have power drivers seat. I get that this is a more budget friendly model but come on...$50K and no electric seats???
Lovely Niagara on the Lake. I was there in 1981. Visiting relatives. It's a long flight from Australia to Toronto. VW. have said no to us down under for any EV. The cost is one factor. Lack of a certain policy on the environment is the other. I also could not enjoy a wine or beer. I was 20 and did not meet your legal requirement of being 21. It's 18 down under. Cheers.
Good job hitting the points that most people are looking for information wise...worthy of a Subscription to your channel. It's undoubtably a decent vehicle, however still quite a bit out of my price range. I want to go electric mostly because gas prices are getting ridiculous and I'm trying to save as much money as I can by investing in efficiency wherever I can. What I would love to see is a smaller "bare bones" electric car with at least 200km range below $20000. Something for a middle aged bachelor like me that doesn't need such a big vehicle with all the bells and whistles. I'm thinking of a two door hatchback like the Fiat 500E would fit the bill for some inexpensive basic transportation. As long as it has a cooling/heating system that keeps the battery healthy for many years and capable of highway speeds is what is important to me. Also, I use a wheelchair. So 2 door models, which usually have larger doors are a lot easier for me to put my wheelchair in the backseat.
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Great episode. Thank you for making your show so engaging.
Wow, we really appreciate the kind words, thank you! Glad you are enjoying the content.
I’m impressed they’ve sold out through end of 2022. Quite interesting mainline company progress, but it seems like Ford is doing a better overall mainline company approach assuming the f150 lightning lives up to expectations. Great review!
At 40K the F-150 will do well. Some areas, gas is 5$ /Gallon.
@@bmw803 I agree! I’m deep down the waiting list, I don’t really need a pickup truck, but as potentially my first all electric (not daily driver) I think will be quite fun! It’s on my bucket list of vehicles to own.
@@bmw803 Reading this in early July....gas has been $6-7 for two months now.
Thanks for using my comment. I enjoyed your review and I think VW will sell a LOT of these.
Of course, thanks for participating.
Flash forward 2 years, and the depreciation on these in the used market is huge. I checked locally, and I can pick up a '21 VW ID.4 Pro RWD with 15K miles for only $23K. Almost a 50% depreciation rate over 3 years!
Great review! All 2021/2022 models have sold out and no announcement yet when 2023 model will become available :(
While in Hong Kong, tesla are everywhere becoz of the rebate, that brings model s to around ca$57,000, just a little more expensive than a normal prius (ca$54,000) or other hybrids. Here, tesla most likely compete with ioniq ev, kona ev, e golf, but the problem here is often takes hours of lining up in paid car park(ca$10+/hour +charging fee) for charging.
I once was thinking about buying a phev in canada soon. Since more people living in houses that charging at homes are much easier. Somehow, the price of ev n hybrids in canada is STILL very discouraging.
been waiting a long time for this video, did not disappoint
Awesome, thank you!
The only problem with the heated windshield is that it will be very expensive to replace when stone chips/ cracks happen because of Canada’s terrible roads. I own four vehicles and they all have chips/cracks in them from other vehicles picking up road debris and flinging it into my windshields. Traditional windshield defrosts are still a better option.
It should be interesting to see how the Toyota BZ4x compares to the other EV offerings that are out there! It looks a little more futuristic than the ID 4.
I mentioned this at other sites, the id.4 has a smaller front hood but is big in the back allowing for more cargo room.
I’ve had 4 Tesla and rarely used the frunks. I drove the VW ID4 rwd and while it was lackluster… it rode quite well better than my Model Y performance, which unfortunately rides extra hard on 21’s. The VW UI isn’t that great . I am considering this awd version for dec delivery to offset some 2021 tax liability
I didn’t realise they were sold out that far, no wonder there no talk of them here in New Zealand
Average wait time for orders is currently 18-24 months in Canada, and VW has put a hold on all new orders for the time being unfortunately.
Only draw back is it is months/ year away on delivery when you order one in Canada
VW needs to offer the heat pump in the USA as well. At least in the AWD version. Half of the country needs it. Some States like North Dakota, Minnesota and Wisconsin are colder than many areas in Canada. Come on VW America.
Yes, for sure!
First.👍😁
Andrea's smile is infectious.
I rather have that shifter than the Rotary dial on the center console shifter.
You had me from heated windshield! More SUVs should have that. Not everyone has long arms for these tall and wide cars.
Don't have an EV yet, wonder how much you could save with the free charging for someone who drives about 15-20k a year.
All those gadgets are nice until something goes wrong. More crap they put on, the more to go wrong. Just turn the heating on and blast the air in the windshield. No need for this extra problem waiting to occur. Unless they make it like the rear window, then it might be ok, because I've never had issues with a rear defroster.
Great vid. I would have liked to see vented seats, a bit more exciting styling like ID4 GTX, and not tuned down on torque.
Good review. I just wondering if anyone knew whether you can set the cameras to record all the time for instance if you're in the parking lot overnight
Great review! I really loved the ID4 when I test drove one, but the price was out of my reach. $15k more than my Taos! Even the $7500 rebate is useless, unless you’re rich enough to need tax breaks. EVs are still for the wealthy. 💔
Thank you glad you enjoyed it! Congratulations on your Taos!
Upcoming rebate is refundable meaning your tax liability doesn’t matter. Still waiting for it to pass through. Effective 2022
finally...an ev for the masses..and does not look like something the Jetsons would drive...see Kia and Hyundai are coming out with some comparable models too...will be very interesting to see all manufacturers line up for our $$ soon...what will big oil do...although...do not think the internal combustion engine is going anywhere for a while...to many and until the price of ev's are even more affordable will still see the Civics and Corrola's on the road for years..great review...enjoy the vino..
Thank you
for comparison would be better to compare it with KIA EV6 and Huyndai Ioniq5 instead of chevy bolt and Mustang
Except, to my knowledge, those aren't technically available yet. At least not here. I would agree though. Plus the Toyota Bz4x and Nissan Ariya, which should be next year?
If you guys were to choose between bz4x, vinfast and vw id4, which would you choose?
Armrests are priceless 😎
Hi guys,
Thanks for sharing this new car.
Thanks for watching!
I have one question on the ID4 that If you are a Fiat 500c driver you definitely have come across it. Can you allow fresh air into the car without turning on the heating or ac or climate control? I have to turn on the climate heating or fan which uses up the driving range.
Thanks
Bob
Hi there, I’m struggling to choose either my reserved 2023 highlander hybrid or the ID4, I drive all most 100miles a day. I live in SF bag area, and the gas price in here is about $4/gal, which vehicle should I go for ?
You guys have reviewed most of the similarly looking EVs.. which one are your top three ?? If the id4 isn’t in the top 3 … where does it place?
Your B-Rolls are off the hook! 🔥
Owner of ID3 from Europe ended up having his car tested by VW. Battery capacity dropped by 8% after 15 K miles in a year.
Annectdotal stories aren’t really helpful. Even if that is true, it could be for a myriad of reasons like overcharging or charging in the cold. Cite your sources to be the most helpful if you are going to make a claim like that.
Awesome details review
looks like a more premium than a Tesla
Zach / Andrea
does it have a control somewhere on steering wheel to change the level of regen ?
On the shifter, with one pedal driving, not able to change the level though
Your point about the the power that these new ev's are being given does worry me a bit.When the younger generation start getting their hands on cars that will do 0-60 in 3-5 seconds i fear that speeding tickets might be the least of our worries.That applies to a lot of people that would consider themselves as good drivers too.
In my Tesla against hopped up BMW and Porsche, I can generally get across the intersection before they’ve gone two car lengths. I slow down to the speed limit a quarter block ahead and let them speed if they want but I can be quick without going fast. Feels good every time I blow away these expensive gas mobiles.
I had this talk with the wife. One can only hope that forward collision avoidance works.
At the time I'm watching this the starting price for the Model Y in the US is now around $60K....they keep creeping the price up over the last 6 mo or so.....plus the wait list is crazy....I just saw a Tesla channel on here with a headline of "Sold out until 2023" Crazy. Great video as always!
I bet Tesla is putting the price up because the US government is bringing in a new rebate, so tax dollars will make up the difference. Crazy.... Buying people cars, not a good move.
@@Motormouth... I agree. I think that's exactly the reason for the price increase.
Are EV warranties similar (all makes) and are costs of maintenance similar for EV’s?
Traditional console shifters are a huge waste of interior space…I do t get the hate for newer rotary types. As Zach said, it took a week or 2 to get used to the rotary in my car.
I have never seen this car on the road. Is it the price or quality that makes it rear.
I just put a deposit on an AWD ID.4 and cant wait!
You can raise the seats so it doesn’t seem like you are sitting on the floor.
Not a fan of EV's but this one looks pretty good, nice review guys.
Hate the dial shifter. So awkward going to reverse. The stick shift is a waste of cabin space. The shift on the wheel is great. No issues except that max regen is a 2 step process.
How is seat height etc. for entry and exit? i.e. people with back issues etc
When can we expect your review of Cadillac Lyriq?
How is the AWD? Confident?
Great EV reviewed by a great couple! Greeting from Atlanta.
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it.
Oh nice! I knew it would be smooth ride. Still pricey tho. Question, What’s a heat pump? What’s it do? Great few laughs and great show! Thanks for showing it Andrea! Oh by way, didn’t you get a wine there? 😆 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
Scott, a heat pump is like an air conditioner that can be flipped over to heat, as well as cool. The big advantage is efficiency. The heat pump will use 1/4 to 1/3 of the electricity that resistive heaters would use. So this is a big deal in Canadian winter.
@@gregholloway2656 Excellent summary.
@@gregholloway2656 thanks for the reply well said 👌
Glad you enjoyed the review, we did love Niagara-on-the-lake and we enjoyed some delicious red wine while there. 🍷
@@andreaspencer9813 awesome! I am glad you were enjoying there and have a wine! Excellent! 👍🏻👍🏻
VW is on their way to winning people over to EVs that's in their price range.
Great review. Do you know if the US version gets the heat pump as well or is that only on the Canadian version?
US don't get the heat pump
How much of a difference does the heat pump make in this car? Read that VW was refunding some buyers that paid for a great pump because it wasn't helping improve efficiency as they advertised.
The ID4 is very high on my list, as is the Q4 E-Tron but I'm still waiting for the Ioniq5 and EV6 to come to the US before making my final decision.
I like the Jaguar heated windshield! Why doesn't everyone do that? Have you ever reviewed a vehicle with voice controlled HVAC and or accessories? It seems the time is right for this, in light of the "future is now" design and tech of all these EVs. It would do away with all of that touch screen silliness!
My e-Arron has voice command. For instance, you can tell it to increase temp by 1 or 5 and it’ll do so!
Screen looks like a after thought.🍁🍁🍁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Does ID.4 has double pane window on both front and rear window?
Great video guys! I’m really liking what VW is doing. 😎👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks! 👍
When are they bringing ID 3 to Canada?
They aren't bringing it to Canada. There is some chatter that we could get the new ID.3 when they refresh it but that won't be for 3 or 4 years.
free maintenance?? what maintenance?
Ace review & info caption
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Looks? Very good! I like it but for me, range is just not enough😔
thanks
Navy Hall. Very nice.
Very nice Review, Thank you very much 👍👍👍
Thanks, glad you liked it 👌
Does that range include winter conditions which we have for several months of the year in Canada?
Of course not. Its best case scenario.
What a beautiful car 👍👍👍👍
Well after buying Land Rovers for my wife for the last 20 years, we have decided her next vehicle will be an electric SUV. We are not ready to dive in just yet as we think the market is going to evolve for the next few years and some standardization will become pronounced. Other than the charging plugs that is.
What I don't like about most of the EV market is the lack of dedicated controls. I have seen the same thing happen in aircraft once glass panels came out. After folks got over the touch screen idea, the development of remote dedicated knobs for various things like auto pilot emerged. I hope this will become the case for EV's as many folks don't want to navigate screens to turn the seat warmers on or off or touch a screen multiple times to change the fan speed.
Thanks for the review, as always great information! I am not sure why Hyundai IONIC 5 or KIA EV 6 were not mentioned in comparison, I believe ID4, EV6 and IONIC 5 are going to be the main players in the non-premium EV market.
The Skoda Enyaq looks and performs just as nice as id4. Worth a look.
@@jansenwilder1335 The Enyaq isn't available in Canada.
The EV6 and Ioniq5 are not available in Canada. That is why they were not included.
@@Demobot1 thanks, I believe availability is similar for all three, likely we will see Ionic 5 on road before ID 4..
@@ns123 The ID.4 has already been delivered in Canada.
When the ID4 came to the USA, I was really bummed we didn't get the cool HUD I saw in European reviews. With navigation turns arrows getting bigger as you got closer. I guess they had to hit a price point or something.
All automakers, especially in the mainstream categories, have to "hit a price point." In the US the ID4 AWD comes in at or below the average price of a new car (assuming a $7500 tax break.) It's a brilliant configuration.