The Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout 4
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- There's a comfort to joining up with the Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout 4, yet it also feels like that the urge itself to join the faction is in part due to the game's design. Bethesda struggled to develop compelling factions outside of the Brotherhood of Steel's presence in Fallout 4.
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well in your defense Preston does ask the player for alot while he just walks around with a damn laser musket.
Let’s be real…Preston’s always asking for too much
@@theyettidennot me doing a Ton of them hoping for secret dialog 😢
I gave him a AR like a man!
That's why I take him with me on a MM playthrough. You're gonna help out dude.
Competency. The BOS actually ooze competence, with leadership, structure, power and technology.
The minuteman are a bunch of farmers turned vigilantes who don't do anything for themselves.
The railroad are nonsense.
The institute is poorly written with their motives and reason to exist.
Thats nice but... Another settlement needs your help. Here, let me mark it on your map.
*Laughs in Sentinel T-60 armor and Righteous Authority Laser rifle*
Happens with as well, i try to go with the institute or the railroad but now i always end up in my sentinel power armor
I take my knight armor then go instatute
I have eaten fallout 4 multiple times and I cannot stop myself from becoming the general of the minutemen
@TheLoverOfYourMother1I had a similar experience with destiny
I love eating fallout the disc has just the right texture and Gordon Ramsey even made it for me in his five star Michelin restaurant 10/10 would eat fallout again
So, how does it taste?.......
@TheLoverOfYourMother1 that's the right answer lmfao....at least for me 🤣
@@DiabloDave i like how this entire thread is under some Minuteman dweeb lol
I think that's my issue too. I've always sided with the Brotherhood, even when I really didn't want to and I think it's all due to how active they are in the world. Especially F4. Every corner I turn, there's a Vertibird dropping bad ass knights in all their power armor glory.
they are the only faction with anything notably cool besides the minutemen with there 18th century artillery
Try playing the quests where you side with teams against the BoS. You’ll still get the familiarity as you’ll end up in scuffles but you’ll get to experience the story from another POV and likely end up in a whole bunch of new locations as a result
Minute men all day, RADIANT QUESTS FOR EVERYONE!
lol
@@theyettidenAnyways, another settlement needs your help. Here...i'll mark it on your map.
@@Patriot-EagleheadNOOOO
@@Patriot-Eagleheadim just now replaying Fallout 4 for the first time since release, and holy fuck Preston is annoying.
@@peentz I'm sorry, but another settlement needs your help. Here. I'll mark it on your map. Mark it on your map. On your map. Your map. Map. Please kill me.
Valentine standing beside me watching maxson give a speech about eradicating synths:
lol 😂
I hope you know you can actually play the minutemen brotherhood and railroad campaign all-in-one play through, need to be charismatic af.
Right and it's not easy but it's doable
Wait can you convince them not to kill each other?
How to sum up the average BOS member in four words:
"mE wAnT pOwEr ArMoR."
No it’s “mE wAnT TeCh
@@OverlyPatrioticfr
Simpleton use power armor
"What tech" lmaao I was spamming that shit
If you want something different, but still using power armor and energy weapons check out the America Rising mod, the Enclave's main story is somehow more action heavy than the Brotherhood's and you get some nutty equipment due to being part of the most militarily advanced faction in Fallout's lore.
I always end up in an X01 powerarmor with the blood of the brotherhood on my hands and as the leader of the institute 😂
Same dude, i backstab the railroad everytime
I choose the Institute because they can teleport. Imagine what they could accomplish with an army of synthetic s. They also seem to have better intelligence than anyone else.
That's exactly how my last playthrough went. Chillin in my fully upgraded and customized X-01 power armor as I watch the Prydwen crumble into a ball of fire as my last favor to my dying son.
Fallout 4 kinda sucks anyways, too much plotholes, Bethesda butchered the series, I forgive fallout 3 even though it’s kinda dumb too, fallout 1/2 and new Vegas is real fallout
And I can stress this enough about fallout 4 fuck the railroad hell no I ain’t risking my life for some robots well except for curie because obviously and Ada and kleo if she ever asked ok I won’t risk my life for most robots
I'm drawn to the mega OP t60 power armor
Welcome to Camp Navarro. So, you're the new replacement... You are out of uniform, soldier! Where is your power armor?
Which Brotherhood Chapter do you Familiarize them with?
Keep making content. You have what it takes.
I just got the platinum trophy and it was honestly pretty cool because I got to see the game from all angles. I usually just go with the Railroad but I got a lot of new experiences
I ended up joining the Institute, BoS and the bumass Railroad and they were fighting while I stood there untouched 💀
The dream.
The Brotherhood of Steel is objectively the coolest faction. It's that simple. Power armor, vertibirds, the Prydwen, Liberty Prime. I mean, c'mon, who is cooler than the BoS?
Maybe the factions who aren’t ran by a ranting fascist, racist, who will kill his most loyal people if they turn out to be synths
You could try Fallout: New Vegas. There is only one quest you have to do for the brotherhood, and it only takes 5 to 10 minutes. It`s one of the many reasons why I love New Vegas: Almost the hole game is an optional quest!
,,still in the dark" is a quite long quest followed by
,,eyesight to the blind" which is short.
Of course you could do the shorter suckers way.
Fallout 4 is my first fallout game. I loved it. Its the first time i have explored a game with different playthroughs and factions. Normally i would finish a fame the. Never touch it again. I love fallout
Play Fallout New Vegas if you haven’t, by far the best one. You’ll see when you play it.
Could it be because you get sweet gear and get to fly around. Its like choosing between being in a tank or on a bicycle in a warzone
True
It’s cause the other factions aren’t fleshed out to anywhere near the same extent as the Brotherhood.
You get rewarded far more for siding with them. Would you rather have legendary power armour, or a Covert Sweater Vest??
The sweater vest 😂 depends on my mood I guess, some days I do be wanting a sweater vest
@@theyettiden it’s the fact that there’s nothing covert about it at all, it looks like it’s pre-war 😭
Makes sense lore wise but damn. I still sided with minutemen because i like settlements
😂....facts
It's because Bethesda is almost in a cult mentality over the Brotherhood of Steel. They either started the other factions first but wanted to hurry up so they could put their effort into the BoS or started the BoS then got bored with the other factions because they literally didn't care enough. Personally I really wish they would just go in and remake Fallout 4, basically just developing the factions then making the story longer and better... And choices!
I did an institute sniper on my last play and had a pretty good time. All on survival too
Ooo. That sounds interesting.
I always side with the Institute
I always join the institute
Red flag. Anyone who completes bos.... Nah I'm just playing ... Sorta.
For me, it's the institute
I see those BOS fascists and I see targets.
Heck yeah. They called Hancock and Nick abominations. Let’s see if that verdibird can tank a mininuke
More like the game is boring and there is only really one way to play through it. Most in game choices are faked.
Or hear me out, screw all the base factions and just do American rising and shouting your lungs saying "GOD BLESS AMERICA, AND GOD BLESS THE ENCLAVE!!"
My playthroughs tend to go like this,
Level 1: Scrap sanctuary
Level 2-7: Shelf Spamming
Level 8: Diamond City
Level 8-9: Freedom Trail and Railroad
Level 10: Deliverer Obtained!
Level 11: Slaughter everyone in the railroad
Level 12: Free Nick
Level 13: going after Kellogg
Level 14: Digging around in Nicks Noggin
Level 15: Crawl out through the Fallout baby
Level 16: found Virgil
Level 17-18:Find courser, kill courser, return to Virgil
Level 19: Build Teleporter
Level 20: Stop by the Museum of witchcraft to get paper mirror
Level 21-22: Obtained Legendary Anti-Material Rifle
Level 22: Stop by Arturo for .50 cal
Level 23: Institute
Level 24: Grab the Fev cure
Level 25: Cure Virgil
Level 26: Automatron DLC
Level 27-29: Automatron Dlc complete
Level 30: Create Ada into the Grim reaper
Level 31-34: Prep for Nuka world
Level 35: All Aboaaaaard!
Level 35: Gauntlet suffering on Survival
Level 36-37: Colter is Dooooown
Level 38: Pass speech check for the Problem Solver
Level 39-45: The grand tour
Level 46-47: Establishing Raider camps in the commonwealth
Level 48: Power play complete!
Level 49: Preston is pissed so I spray a hot thick load of 7.62 on his face
Level 50: The Commonwealth is mine!
BOS is objectively the most stylized faction compared to all the others, definitely making it more appealing
Just use the Militarized Minutemen Mod, if not the Army Ranger Minutemen Replacer Mod or the Enclave/Minutemen Mod coupled with the America Rising 2 Mod.
Why?
Because the Minutemen should be people related to or influenced by the servicemen of the US military.
Same but opposite. With every gameplay I PROMISE myself to side with BoS but every time I get pissed of but those assholes and eventually either abandon the game or kill them all and then abandon the game. They're just SO ANNOYING they literally beg to be killed.
I never really like power armor! So for me the BoS wasnt really a most.. I know in F04 we have PA EVERYWHERE.. But never been crazy about them from other fallout games 😅
for me it's danse's opening pitch when recruiting. It's just simply epic, especially the response he gives to your question about what's expected of you. "You'll have the brotherhood on your back ready to spill it's blood for you. No more mercenary work. This is the real deal."
What's very fun is as soon as you encounter the Brotherhood is kill Elder Maxon! Having the Brotherhood as another enemy in the Wasteland is a very fun encounter!
Me: Swears that this time I’ll actually play the game instead of building settlements
Me 30 min later: “why color tiling would look best in my kitchen?”
I feel the same way when I see my Minutemen out and about, especially since I DID THAT, *I* built up the minutemen
I think this was made better in Fallout 4 because you aren't required to side with the Brotherhood just to get access to Power Armor.
They also made Power Armor less of a requirement by lowering it's Strength bonus and adding options like being able to upgrade non Power Armor via weaves.
(I still side with NCR during most New Vegas runs though because that just feels right in my heart.)
One I always go with is, The Enclave but, they are not in fallout 4 But in mods. BOS I'm not fond of but if I have to choose (one) With no mod? The Minutemen. But i personally choose with mods, it makes the game more exciting.
It’s because the BOS were the good guys in FO3. It was my first fallout experience and I’ve been in love with them ever since.
I relate to the institute personally. I'm all about progress and futuristic themes. When I join the institute it feels like nothing is hidden. I AM the hidden one. I feel like I'm the man behind the curtain, swaying the commonwealth to my needs. Not to mention the creation of a pure humanity. An advanced civilization ACTUALLY REBUILDING. The institute always felt like I was apart of something important. Hundreds of years of sacrifice and technological success.
The brotherhood is feared and respected by power alone.
They rob settlers of thier crops, take whatever they want, and ignore raider threats. This is obvious by the fact that they only came because they sought the institutes destruction.
They are a corrupt militarized government. At least. In the end. The institute is honest with you.
So I'm level 37 and I've never met Preston, and completely bypass Concord. Pretty chill game! Lol
Sounds like a you problem honestly. I personally hate the brotherhood so much that every single playthrough i just slaughter them as quickly and brutally as possible. In FNV i literally just went: oh the BOS? Its genociding time! And did it all by hand
Honestly, it just comes down to the other factions being dogshit.
Minutemen could be salvaged if they reduced the amount of mandatory radiant quests, and let the player character "General" actual give orders, despite Preston's protests.
The Institute could be improved if they actually gave them a solid reason for kidnapping people and releasing synths, other than just being vaguely evil and utilitarian.
As for the railroad... Who cares, synths arent human anyways. Shut em down
I'm only compelled to join the BoS when they're xenophobic isolationist. So strange.
I can't STAND the BoS line. It's just a vile attitude of superiority and condescension. I can't listen to it long enough to get recruited. They disgust me.
i have the opposite “problem” 😅 everytime i try to play brotherhood or institute routes i end up back underground, wishing P.A.M was a companion…
in every fallout. well all.except 1 amd 2. the BoS are different. as in each branch is dofferent. some stay true to the original ways. while some pave a new path towards racism and complete genocide. i normally like the BoS. but i really dont like the BoS in Fallout 4... i woukd have to say that Fallout 3s BoS is my favorite. instead of staying in the way of hoarding technology. they actuallt help everyone.
I do this exact same thing in fallout 4 except I usually do it because half way through I'm like "I ain't going to repair this same suit of max tier X-01 because I feel like it's breaking faster than the brotherhood power armor sold by teagan"
Every other faction is week BOS gives you power armor strong companions, protection in the wasteland because they’re constantly spawning, other factions dont offer as much, especially in hardcore mode where you have to walk everywhere BOS will send vertiberds to help you navigate the wastes
BoS has always been my favorite and it upsets me so many fans mix their core mission (gathering pre-war tech in order to prevent further war) with the enclave (xenophobic, fascist warlords, aiming for a "pure" America, no matter the costs.)
You play the Institute
You play the Minutemen
You play the railroad
You are the brotherhood
There are a lot of fallout factions, but when you play those factions, none of them really feel like “This is my home my team and my goal.” Well, there are a couple exceptions, one of them being the brotherhood.
When you’re in the Institute, the game ends with you feeling like you have to justify you being there.
When you’re in the Minutemen, it just kind of feels like you’re babying them and and worshiping Preston, Garvey’s feet like he’s that girlfriend you just can’t let go of.
When you first join the railroad, it’s justifying your existence, but then for the rest of your play through, you’re just doing whatever everyone else asks and not really getting enough credit for it.
But the brotherhood feels like there’s more progression. Not only do you raise up in ranks and get more respect as you do, but you get new armor paints to symbolize it throughout all of this not even at one point you ask “does it really mean anything?” And of course you don’t the way you interact with the NPC’s the way things change validates that things did change and your work did mean something.
The progression with the brotherhood of steel is just significantly more tangible than it is with all the other factions while at the same time, being one of two factions, where you don’t just outright, become the leader and the other faction that does it is the railroad and that’s the worst faction and not worth remembering.
Honestly... I kinda hate the Brotherhood in Fallout 4, I just find them more of an annoyance at times. I mean, I like the Brotherhood knights, they actually seem like the common infantry that you would see in an army, cool combat fatigues as well... But then there's the paladins, giant tank like power armor that's honestly pretty ugly and hardly fits into any room. Now add on that the Brotherhood think that they are the saviors of the wasteland and that people should basically kneel down before them while making already struggling farmers give them a portion of their crops... I use the Minutemen to destroy them every playthrough.
I, like so many others have played this hundreds of times over and over trying to do different things. Insisting that it was not going to trigger the Brotherhood, or not going to Diamond City, or not even interacting with the Minutemen and the first few times that I've played through I always gravitated towards the Minutemen Karma Preston was just a pain in my butt. I even tried only working with the railroad, that sucked. And just recently decided to become a Raider and go straight to Nuka world before anything else. Although it was interesting it sucked donkey balls
I love being the over powered railroad minut man for 90+% of the game, tricking the other two factions into funding and arming me. Then usually picking the minutemen due to their more stable philosophy
i've beaten fallout 4 with all 4 factions multiple times each. Ranked it goes 1- BoS (like em or hate em, their story is the best written and makes a lot of sense for Nate) 2- Railroad (You are a post apocalyptic secret agent and it makes the most sense for Nora imo) 3- minutemen (its fun to build up the settlements but gets tedious and is a very lackluster ending) and the worst is institute (shaun is a total piece of garbage, you lead them but have no power to change anything to for a type of peace between factions)
Extra ending- If you reclaim the castle and build artillery in a few settlements the railroad will refuse to let you join but there is unique dialogue where the general can confirm or deny support for the railroad, denying results in them turning hostile while supporing them just keeps them alive. this is the most unique way i saw a faction story end in the game.
I kind of have to since I only play survival mode. Game is 100% different when you can’t fast travel.
Maxson went too far, he turned Lyon’s Brotherhood back into a gang of raiders in powerarmor. He had every example of what a good brotherhood leader should be and he failed. Fallout 4’s brotherhood was my most bitter disappointment and I take them out almost every play through
happens to me in FNV, I always try to do something different, but the bear runs in my blood and I can't stop myself from killing Caesar for being a prick
Same for me but with the Institute. Despite everything they've been exposed for, i chose them on my first run, not knowing how evil they were. It's still incredibly tempting to join with them every run i do because that's my nostalgia, seeing as 4 was my first game. I'm not a very rational or rule abiding person and at first glance, The institute is a place of relative freedom, progress, and a weird blend of rationality and order. I STILL don't really get them as much as i do the other factions, i don't think we're capable of understanding their true depth. This all to say yes, Father is a sociopath fixated on experimentation for its own sake, the Institute will use you as a guinea pig at best and also and effectively run a slave army, not to mention how many massacres they've commited or how how their entire utopia runs on own world tech with flashy exteriors. But one thing always stuck out to me about all of that. Father knows about all of it, and he explains it all in a simplistic way at some point in the questline, boiling it down to simple math in true sociopathic fashion.if i recall, he also haphazardly brings up the point that all factions, old like the brotherhood or potentially large newer ones like the minutemen, will eventually follow in a lot of the same actions, if they havent done so already. Maybe not to the same extent, but certainly he trusts in the process being that naturally occuring. Because that's what this destroyed world demands. They'll all hide it deep down, building their house on bloodied soil and planting the seeds of corruption where no one can see it. The Institute he muses at least is just doing it to its fullest effectivness and only hiding the true reason to insiders. Something I've always noodled.
Never use power armor but the brotherhood are the only choice. A Militia who start with nothing and end with basically nothing useful, an underground cult that offer some armored clothing and a bunch of isolationist scientists who offer worse laser rifles vs a group with an airship, power armor, heavy weaponry and existing structure AND you can get the extra stuff from the other factions anyway.
I always end up with the minutemen and railroad no matter what I do… maybe my brain just likes explosions. Bye institute, bye prydwyn, bye children of atom
I’m almost always minutemen default. In fact I have beat the game for all factions except the brotherhood. I just don’t find them all that interesting
I don't like the brotherhood honestly. Mostly because of their opinions and views on things. Only band of brotherhood of steel I think is okay is Lyon's pride in fallout 3
I've never sided with the BoS. XD I started a new one to join. But had to get Hancock first. He is hubby. XD
For me i never going for BoS, i dont know, maybe i kinda loved the BoS in fallout 3 so much that i kinda hates how BoS in fallout 4
The Brotherhood of steel is the only faction to appear in ALL the Fallout games.
I cannot finish the railroad quest line like I’ve done every other one probably 5 times I’ve started so many railroad play throughs where I just end up doing like stealth institute but I just can’t finish the railroad for the life of me
I tried making one of my SS stick with the Minutemen but had him complete half of the main story with the brotherhood, up until Blind Betrayal. He completed the rest with the Minutemen lol
No fallout 4.
The NCR is the best faction of all the games. Not only does it portray corruption of real world America but also has beef with the Brotherhood, a very scary plot point if presented to Bethesda.
Well fallout 4 gives you 4 choices. Two of them, the BoS and the institute, are the more or less the world powers of the game. The other 2, the minute men and Underground Railroad, are groups that have less members than the amount of fingers and toes one person has. The game gave us almost no reason to chose the minute men or Underground Railroad during your first or second play throughs.
so my primary objective is to rescue my child from a technologically advanced organization with armies of robots and weapons beyond what most people have ever seen. There is no way your going to succeed on your own, you will need help, your choices are #1 the broken remnants of a civilian millita that at this point consists of you, a guy with a crank powered gun and a few random malnourished guys you personally recruited. or #2 a hodge-podge of escaped synths who have spent decades struggling against the same enemy your facing and have barely survived, most recently they have lost there base and are living in a sewer ready to flee at the first sign the institute has found them. or #3 the guys in power armor with plasma canons, a giant airship and a nuke tossing robot. one of these just feels like they might be able to help more than the others.
Iv never done the BoS in 4, they aren't really familiar if coming from the 3 brotherhood and I mostly play characters opposed to them for various reasons, id sooner join the institute cause atleast then you'd be in charge at the end and capable of changing its worst parts.
My take on the Brotherhood is, they may be Nazis in heavy armor, but at least they aren't experimenting and kidnapping people like the Institute.
Honestly, for me, BoS is literally: "Good intentions, but terrible methods" and the institute is just plain evil.
It's funny I've never played Brotherhood of Steel faction.
See, I can't trust these bastards because I grew up playing Fallout 3 and liking that brotherhood faction because they were for the improvement of the wasteland And the people of wasteland there is only one faction in fallout 4 that is for that, and they are The most boring faction in 4 That would be the Minute Men And that is still a horrible option I wish there was an option to overrun all of the Capital wasteland with one of the Nuka Cola Factions and rule as a Raider king because at least then I could establish a rule of law and have a faction that made the inhumane approach fun
I don't get siding with them for pa because I always find suits of power armor and have too many to count 😭, also you get great stuff siding with the rr like a railway rifle and balistic weave and the deliverer, preferable to me
Im the same way for the minutemen. I just cant play fallout 4 without settlement building. You technically can still do it without the minutemen. Sanctuary hills and red rocket is the best player base at the beginning of the game. Unless you deny it and force yourself to nomad somewhere else its hard to ignore the easy opportunity and the raiders just down the road.
For me it’s the fact that they’re militaristic, more clean, organized, and who doesn’t want to be allied to the strongest coolest faction. I just wish base game they actually had an equal/threat that’s not weak humanoid robots
In my last play through I had 350 something dog tags and alot of power armor and indirectly killed some kids
I always end up in the railroad. I love the secrecy involved, the characters in the railroad are some of the most entertaining, the gameplay is great, and I don’t have to be a racist in power armor.
The faction & writing is as deep as a rain puddle, there are literally nothings to explore, there are no what if, in between, grey moral line, its just ,yes yes yes (but sacasm), and no.
I'm a minuteman all the way because they have the best possible outcome for the Commonwealth but I have played every single faction even combined some of them like Minuteman and brotherhood or institute and minutemen or railroad and Minuteman in the Nuka world raiders with the institute if you want to be straight up evil but my top two if I want is the Minutemen and the raiders of course I have two saves for those playthroughs
The brotherhood is just the most developed faction and one of the only ones to actually feel like a faction, the minutemen might as well just be the player character, the railroad consists of what? Like 6 people in a sewer or something and the institute while big enough to feel like a real faction just feels dumb
Also because the BOS is the most action packed fraction and most cannon seeming
Would be cool if we could join another, way cooler, power armored faction *cough* Enclave *cough*
God why is fallout 4 so bad they had so many good examples from previous games (not so much 3 but its still alright) and they managed to mess up 4 so badly
Im trying to side with the railroad alone in this playthrough. Preston and the rest are in sactuary, but i didnt take any quest from him - he just walks around, doesnt want to take orders, and tries to lure me into his first settlement mission.
That being said: I never would team up with the Brotherhood - too fascist for my taste.
Download America Rising 2 - Legacy of the enclave
See, I've never completed the brotherhood. Thousands of hours and I just can't get past the 2nd or 3rd quest
My favorite play through was years go. I went with the institute. I sided with every single faction, then used each faction to destroy another. It felt so..evil
Bro those brotherhood of steel always guilt trip me into choosing them sometimes choosing them after making to many bad decisions on them 😂😂😂
no its because everything in fallout 4 has to connect to the story in some way and its boring & pointless, af fallout 3/new vegas was so good at making these giant areas that tell their own story that every playthrough can feel new but everything in fallout 4 just always leads back to the main plot and makes the world feel a whole lot more empty and choiceless.
“Oh yeah, I wonder what you guys have been up to”. Probably the same stuff as your last 8 play throughs my guy. Wake up lmao
To be fair
Preston doesn't do anything.
The institute you meet sorta in the end game.
Rail road.
So i dont blame you for going with a bos route, even if they definitely not the same people from the capital wasteland.