That sounds stupid tbh. Even today with the water tests, lead levels are actually going back up. And do you not know what leads application is with radiation? It would make sense for you to be LESS likely to be a ghoul if you have more lead in your system. The only thing that could be "cool" is if the potential Legionella bacteria, AKA Legionnaires disease transformed into some sort of semi concious thing that infected something and then took over the hosts body, and made them go to areas with lots of water. So they would be something like those things from the last of us, so theres even variation
@@ravinraven6913 Lead is often used to shield against radition because of it's density. Generally the denser something is the harder the radiation has passing through it. Drinking water high in lead won't make you less susceptible to radiation poisioning.
@@ravinraven6913 that's NOT how lead and radiation works. at all. if some small amounts of lead in your body would affect radiation, it would be more "scatter" radiation inside your body when getting an x-ray (meaning the x-ray radiation would cause secondary radiation with less energy and thus more likely to damage your body rather than pass through or get deflected). blocking parts of the image is only one of two important reasons we tell you to take off jewelery or push ups for an xray.
Alaska would be interesting location for a Fallout game, its would be a completely new climate, it would allow for pre-war lore relating to the Anchorage Campaign and the annexation of Canada to be explored more directly and the location would perfectly justify DLCs that takes us into British Columbia - Canada, and Chukotka - Russia allowing us to explore post-war regions outside of the USA.
An alaska fallout would have to take place mostly in one city. Living here in alaska, I have to tell you it’s HUGE, and it’s REALLY empty, like devoid of most populated areas except anchorage which is the most major city there is in the state, and it is pretty far from Canada so maybe they could do BC and all that as DLC locations. But yeah, alaska is mostly open wilderness and frigid cold as far as the eye can see
@@domonator5000 That is why I would think that the main map would only be Southcentral Alaska, it would still be the largest 3D fallout map that would largely be wilderness but intelligent use of scaling and new points of interests would stop the map from being too empty. British Columbia - Canada, and Chukotka would mostly likely be locations that are reached by ferry so the distance does not matter that much when coming to the game as a time skip for a 1000 mile journey is the same as a time skip for 60 mile journey.
@@domonator5000 well, consider that Fallout 4 doesnt take place in the entirety of Massachusetts, just mostly Boston, so obviously they wouldnt so all of Alaska considering its bigger than Texas.
Detroit has a lot of advantages. Heavily industrialized, lots of landmarks. Good opportunity for lore. Better yet, it's a bridge and tunnel away from Windsor, Canada, and with the Fallout lore annexation of Canada, a great chance to deep dive into the story there. Also, having a raider style bridge fortress on the bridge would be awesome.
Even though Detroit gets clowned on nowadays, I still think it would be dope as hell to have a Fallout game take place in Detroit, mostly because I live in Michigan and I've walked around in a lot of downtown Detroit, specifically the center but also Mexican Town
Detroit gets a bad wrap. Hell, all Rust Belt cities do. I'm from Buffalo and I'm seeing a pattern with Rust Belt cities lately. They seem to be recovering from the economic collapse of the 70s and 80s. I've seen the Detroit revitalization project and they're doing a great job. Same thing with Buffalo.
It’s funny because the same people responsible for the Midwest/rust belt cities declining now act like these places are irrelevant because there’s “nothing there.” I’m from St. Louis and just like in places like Detroit or Buffalo, there’s a lot of empty industrial space and suffering due to blue collar people being left as an afterthought.
Yup, rust belt cities all have potential once they look beyond simply wallowing in their sorrow about collapses that happened 40+ years ago. They just need to find the things they offer that set them apart and lean into it. Buffalo continues to do a good job of this, and is a way better city than it was 10 years ago.
I live in Grand Rapids Michigan and the hate I see towards Detroit very often has racist undertones to it or extremely ignorant takes that completely ignore the history of the city. Especially in the present day. Property values are rising and new developments are all over. The city has a bunch of old buildings being renovated and new ones going up. A new streetcar line with potential for more routes. There are good things happening all the time. The most rundown areas are old abandoned neighborhoods and even then those are starting to be cleared away or completely renovated bit by bit.
I feel like it would be Mad Max heaven. You could mod and "pimp" your ride. Have Twisted Metal style battles with raiders. Roleplay Carnegie and found an empire of steel in the Detroit forges and factories. Maybe join a pure water cult trying to return the Great Lakes. Lots of possibilities.
BGS would need to change their engine first....you can implement vehicles in the current version of creation but it is stil an ancient dinosaur of a engine unsuited for the modern era if they used UE4 or UE5 imagine what they could produce??, Outer worlds on UE4 was great, no bugs, no glitches nothing technical that just sucked ass and took the fun out of the game but every Creation engine game has the same issues, I'm not arguing the point, I am telling you....they need to replace their engine with something better and sorry if that sounds adversarial but people simply refuse to listen to it or see the problems
@Red Lantern's Rage Sure. With any expectations here we're assuming an alternate reality BGS. The fantasy one that lives in our minds alone. But it would be cool, though.
@@darthXreven. Probably because just switching to Unreal is not gonna magically fix everything, especially if the developers involved haven't even touched Unreal; See Overkill's The Walking Dead on how that went. You need a lot more time and a lot more expertise to use Unreal if you've never even touched it, which fits BGS to a T, especially for Unreal Engine 4. You're naïve if you think switching to Unreal would automatically do all the work for you; That's not how engine switches work at all.
@Dragonborn Express it wouldn't, but it would be a start. Have small groups of people training to use unreal in the background, Bethesda probably could pull talent from the other studios it owns to aid like with Rage 2. It's very possible. That said I want to see how starfeild pans out before choosing a camp.
As someone whos actually from Michigan this video was absolutely AMAZING and ive been preaching for detroit as a fallout game for ages!!! thanks for making this i loved it im now off to make sure my porch doesnt get stolen😂
I think Marquette or Houghton in the upper peninsula would be interesting DLC locations. If there were any post war industry, they would probably try to revive old copper and iron mines. There is even the Quincy Mine that is preserved as a museum.
I always thought New Orleans would make a great fallout. There are lots of new good crafting recipes with Cajun food, some casinos, and a lot of landmarks. And the massive potential of the bayou and a water-based transportation system for settlements and connections. I'd love an analysis like this on the possibility
A note about potential nearby locations that would have been affected by the war/post war: Dearborn. It's the current headquarters of the Ford Motor Company. It houses major manufacturing, engineering, testing, and housing for the automotive industry, so it would possibly be a target of nuclear strikes. It has two local landmarks, the Henry Ford Museum, and Greenfield Village. The Henry Ford museum is a massive sprawling monument to the early 1900's and the expansion of industrialization and assembly line technology. Greenfield Village is a period park of the early 1900's, and could potentially be populated by neo-amish individuals using the park as a blueprint to build their way of life on. Another odd note about Dearborn, it has the highest Arab population density outside of the Middle East. Not sure how that could affect a post-war fallout world, but it could certainly add a little spice.
The Highway act is an exceptional point that I’ve yet to hear anyone bring up, and it would be a perfect fit for the Fallout world. On top of that, though this is more on brand for the Obsidian team than the Bethesda team, Fallout has a history of referencing the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, and seeing as a pretty important thing that happens in that book is the protagonist’s house being demolished to put in a new highway, and Earth being demolished to build a new space highway, that’s just ripe for fun references.
I also really want to see New York City in Fallout also where there is also a good Mafia and Noir background alongside with the music and massive skyscrapers all knocked down and half standing. Not to even mention there are 3 major airports around the city. I know rendering an entire city let alone 3 airports also is a lot but I'd love to see an Enclave base at LaGuardia Airport or something like that. New York City could also be a good place for either the Lone Wanderer or the Sole Survivor to reside.
A note about the highways in Detroit: None of them are currently elevated. All of them are channels cut into the ground. A potential interesting way to take the Detroit cityscape would be flooded freeways and boats with recycled automotive motors. This could also lead to an avenue to Canada, as the Ambassador Bridge, Detroit River Tunnel, and Gordie Howe Bridge (currently under construction) would likely be defunct after a couple hundred years.
Isn't one of those bridges currently structurally deficient? I seem to recall some worry when Canada's weird convoy ppl were parking their trucks on the bridge that it might collapse.
@@SadisticSenpai61 The Ambassador Bridge is only that way because of its dickhead private owner. That bridge can still be saved but time is ticking as it deteriorates due to some greedy rich asshole.
Definitely make this an ongoing series. I'd love to see your take on New Orleans as a future fallout location. Beautiful city with a long history and massive potential for dlc locations nearby.
There would be no New Orleans... We've seen what happens when the levees fail (Katrina), and they wouldn't be maintained after the war... Hell the Chinese wouldn't even have to nuke New Orleans to destroy it. They'd just have to launch regular bombs at the levees. For that reason I'd rate it at a 1/1000.
@@chdreturns China wouldn't go out of their way to launch a few regular bombs to the other side of the planet for the slim chance of hitting certain targets dead on. they'd just send a nuke
I love how everyone is chipping in on what neat locations would make for a good world space and potential DLC areas. Devs need to take note on community discussions like this, it's a treasure trove of good ideas that can be forged into a solid core.
I'd say that given the war with China the production of cars would have dropped off as demand for military aircraft and vehicles became a priority. Became in OTL many industrial factories were converted for military purposes during the second World War.
Okay, you've convinced me. The Joe Louis Arena, Ford Field, and Comerica Park would be awesome settings in a Fallout game. Thing is, you'd have to get into the suburbs for most of the good stuff. You'd need a DLC in Windsor, for instance. The boss would have to be based out of Dearborn, or possibly Auburn Hills or Pontiac for the sake of the Palace and the Silverdome. There is no way that the Brotherhood of Steel would allow the River Rouge plant to stand alone, for instance.
It'd be better with Tiger Stadium. It was just as old as Fenway Park. Suburbs appear in the maps of other games. You couldn't do a Detroit setting right if you didn't include the Henry Ford Museum, University of Michigan, or Meadow Brook Hall (the 9th largest mansion in the U.S.) The distance from Ann Arbor to Detroit is only 36 miles. Cottonwood Cove is 54 miles from Las Vegas, so the map has certainly been spread out like that before.
Highways in Detroit are dug into the ground and are basically waterless canals if the they were to be used they would be a way to break up the map and raider gangs would likely control the crossing points because the pits are filled with toxic sludge or basically a kill zone for anyone trying to cross
As a born Yooper(someone from the Upper Peninsula) I do enjoy the call out. There are a couple of things that I had thought of. The Mackinaw straight as a DLC location. Once again calling heavy on the water as a means of transportation. Mackinaw Island with all the famous locations there(the Fort and the Grand Hotel to name a few) You also have the Mackinaw Bridge there as well having been completed in 57, one of the longest suspension bridges in the world. Another thing to consider in there is the "animosity" between Yoopers and Trolls(those Michiganders who live below the bridge). While today this is more akin to Far Harbors view of Mainlanders, it could be much more hostile in the future. There have been on several occasions a movement, including legislation, for the U.P. to become a separate state edit: Also being up north would make the possibility of snow littered map, Similar to parts of Skyrim
Cleveland's DLC can have a mission to set the river on fire and iinclude music-based weapons. There's also a national park right there, the metro area is actually still heavily wooded.
Something that just dawned on me is hockey is SUPER popular in Michigan, which could also lead to implementing hockey sticks as a weapon type and hockey pads as a basis for armor. Vernor's (arguably the first pop) was also invented here, as was the first breakfast cereal via Kellogg's corn flakes, so analogues to those could be implemented there in an interesting way (even though neither was invented in Detroit specifically). Detroit is also the birthplace of Little Caesar's Pizza, which could likewise be used in a ton of interesting ways. A DLC could also have you travel to the Upper Peninsula (or U.P. as we always refer to it here), maybe Marquette as it's the biggest city up there. I mainly think that would be interesting for a few reasons; one: there's notably larger wildlife up there, such as moose, black bears, pikes, salmon, even mountain lions--all of which could make for interesting mutated animals; two: lake superior is so cold that the bodies of people who've died there never surface, which is BEGGING for a Fallout twist--come on, cold, sunken mutants or some sort of lovecraftian prescience there would be amazing; three: it would be the first location in a Fallout game that would lend itself well to an implementation of Sasquatch, who's typically associated with the Pacific Northwest but has a strong cultural prescience in Michigan as well--especially farther north. And since Fallout loves referencing horror movie franchises, Evil Dead is set in Michigan, which is a reference that basically writes itself.
I’m actually working on my own Fallout setting to take place in my home state of Colorado, which I’ll be making into a series of videos as my own theoretical Fallout game. Colorado has a ludicrous amount of military bases, forts, and other government facilities, including Cheyenne Mountain (which houses NORAD), the Air Force Academy, and so much more. The potential for military secrets, special weapons, and more is off the charts. Nikola Tesla used to live in Colorado Springs, which still houses the Tesla museum. The potential of a secret Tesla lab for some crazy SCIENCE!!! shenanigans is very high. Denver canonically was the research capital of the country regarding the New Plague and developed the early designs of what would eventually become FEV before that research was moved to WestTek and Mariposa in California. Denver and Boulder were given huge facilities by the government in the last decade before the Great War. Denver also invented cyberdogs, and has a lot of technology fabrication in universe! Portions of Colorado were under Legion rule prior to the second Battle of Hoover Dam. We could see how the Legion has fractured since the loss of Caesar and Legate Lanius to keep them in line. In fact one of their tribes, the Hangdogs, originally hailed from Denver! There’s a lot more but I don’t want to tip my hand. I think there’s a LOT of potential for Colorado and I’d enjoy seeing RadKing’s own research and take on the area for game viability.
Love the video. As for what cities /state you should do videos on next I will list the following. -Indianapolis -Chicago -Alaska -North Dakota (A third of the worlds nuclear weapons are stored at Minot airforce base North Dakota it would also be nice to see some airforce bases) -New York -Pennsylvania (Raven Rock Mountain is in Pennsylvania and is called the underground pentagon) -Colorado (would provide a lot of information on the Great War as NORAD is based there)
I’m actually working on Colorado as my own Fallout setting right now! There’s soooo much to my home state that’d be huge for the franchise. Canonically Denver got hit hardest by the New Plague and was the main research center for FEV before being moved to WestTek and Mariposa. They developed cyberdogs, and the healing stimulant gel in stimpacks! Plus just south in Colorado Speings we’ve got a ton of army and Air Force bases, military academies, and Cheyenne Mountain itself! I’ve done a lot of work on it as one of my projects.
As a Michigander, specifically from Flint I love this! I feel like someone like Charles Stewart Mott could be a cool character, like he's preserved similar to Mr. House. Is it in Fallout lore that our water is contaminated too or was that a dig to us lol? Also, Mackinac Island would be perfect for a DLC, there's forts and not to mention the Grand Hotel that would make awesome settlements!
The Flint Water crisis would genuinely make for a great bit of lore. I thought of Mackinac Island too, the nearby Mackinac Bridge would make for a fascinating location too.
I think it would be an interesting idea to allow your character to go over the Niagara Falls in a barrel, perhaps taking pot shots at enemies and wildlife while you flow down into the Falls
I would really love a Fallout: Lake Erie. That’s split between Buffalo, Cleveland, and Detroit. And islands out in the lake off Sandusky or something. All connected from some steel monorail built by settlers post war
I’m actually working on Colorado as my own Fallout setting right now! There’s soooo much to my home state that’d be huge for the franchise. Canonically Denver got hit hardest by the New Plague and was the main research center for FEV before being moved to WestTek and Mariposa. They developed cyberdogs, and the healing stimulant gel in stimpacks! Plus just south in Colorado Speings we’ve got a ton of army and Air Force bases, military academies, and Cheyenne Mountain itself! I’ve done a lot of work on it as one of my projects.
@@HellYeahGaming greetings fellow coloradan lol, i agree we need a game in Denver, its also a sure-fire way to see the canon ending for NV which would be a huge deal.
Detroiter here, don't forget the salt mines, the Train station, the Greyhound complex, COBO Hall, and the adjoining Joe Louis Arena, the DIA, Hart Plaza, and besides Motown, Detroit is the birthplace of Techno and is a mainstay in the electronic music scene.
We also have Selfridge ANG base, and it IS a frequently used testing facility for experimental aircraft. We're also home to the Vigilantes MC. Also, post-war, the Unions would be heavily involved in rebuilding society and infrastructure. Iconic landmarks? Hart Plaza, Joe Louis's fist, The Thinker outside the DIA, and most iconic would be the Spirit of Detroit statue. All very iconic to the city.
Man I'd eat iguana bits to see Saint Louis, Missouri in a Fallout game. We've got so many iconic locations from the Gateway Arch, to the Cathedral Basilica, Busch Stadium, the Science Center, the City Museum, Forest Park and all its attractions, Union Station with its massive aquarium, and many more. Not to mention the legacy of classic rock and blues we've got here, having been home to people like Chuck Berry, Tina Turner, and others
The Raftors- a series of towns along the skyways (lol) that make up one larger society. The skyways go through some buildings (like the one that goes through that hospital in Boston) and the towns are incorporated into there as well. The streets below could be full of rats and raiders as modern day detroit is ofc.
Also, FYI they are undoing the highways here, 375 is already in the process of being destroyed to reconnect those old ghettos. Also there is the Detroit arsenal for the military stuff. The biggest issue though is that Detroit is heavily boarded by farmland so the map would be extremely empty unless your limit it to Detroit itself or expanded to go as far as Selfridge or camp grayling. We don’t have hills so they can’t rely on vertical mapping.
A relatively flat map gives some opportunities for interesting factions, images some guys came together and formed like the fellowship of the wheel, driving around, raiding settlements left, right and centre, could be very interesting
Careful. Once you touch Nuka, a section of the fandom comes out from under rocks and plastic bottles/nesting material; and tells you how evil you are. Bawls Guarana was in game at one point.
@@mcpossum it’s not a lie though 😂. You try sharing a positive opinion about Bawls in relation to Fallout; and see how long it takes for the “purists” to come crawling out.
@@Dank-gb6jn oh, I believe you. I am waiting for them on this post. We have Pepsi and Faygo bottling plants in Detroit. We've seen regional sodas in other games. Why not give good old CB a run for his money in Detroit 😂
Detroit would be an interesting location. If factories were still intact on any level, I could see them being modified by groups like the BoS, Enclave, and maybe some raider gangs, to make cars and "tanks" like the old mafia cars back in the day. A set of groups who are trying to get boats or planes back online. Trying to reclaim various factories or the like. The islands could be used as defensive locations for mutants or make them valuable for everyone due to resources that could be there. The great lakes having a massive waterworld feel to it would be AMAZING, and we could see pre war water vehicles that were being made to fight against the "Ghost Fleet". With a legendary beast that is a prewar robot set to combat mode, but badly malfunctioning so it doesn't appear too often.
As a native Michigander, I would love this If Ann Arbor is included, I'd imagine my homeland of Monroe would be included with Fermi II, as that's where it is. Maybee too, perhaps. Just because of the name it would be amazing. I would love a stable republic there, even one with, as it makes total sense. The whole county of Monroe is so ignored by Toledo to the south and Detroit to the north, it wouldn't be nuked. We could possibly see proper post-war flora, not just spore creatures and dead trees that just so happen to have leaves. Monroe country, or perhaps the Republic of Monroe, would be such a bountiful society. It would be cool to see pre-war naval ships used by them to fight off pirates and vikings. Additionally, in Mothership Zeta the giant lazer hit nearby Detroit in Canada. This would be the perfect reference.
Rad you already know how I feel about a Detroit fallout, you even mentioned some locations I didn't consider like the historical factories and a dlc breakfast cereal conflict that I thought were perfect. I like the format of the video and dig the idea of it becoming a series. Detroit is my number one pick, but I have some runners up locations that could be fun.
When I think of Detroit, I don't just think of cars, but also Rock City. It would also be a tease because you look across the bridge and there's Windsor. A lot of people with dual citizenship live in both cities. Although, same could said about Niagara Falls.
Being in Michigan could also be an opportunity to bring the midwestern chapter of the BOS back into the canon and fix some of the lore issues from tactics!
Imo, a dense urban environment has still yet to be done properly in Fallout. Detroit, New Orleans, and Texas sound great in concept, but my issue is that Bethesda nor Obsidian have yet to get a good version of a city. 4 was super dense, but barely felt like a city, and more like a dungeon with a sky box. 3 was a joke, with just a bunch of loading screens leading to small cells. And finally FNV had the Strip, and nothing else. Outer Vegas barely felt like anybody actually ever lived there, at any point. I think the best environment for the next Fallout would be New Orleans. It has a lot of culture and is a bit more homey than the monstrous skyscrapers of 4, probably a but less destroyed than 3 and hopefully denser and more detailed than FNV.
20:55 As someone from Michigan, I think Grand Rapids would make for a great DLC area. One of Grand Rapids’ biggest events is the Art Prize, a multi day event focusing on art made by people around the city. I think this would make for a great DLC where the play and some Archeologists/Historians would try to gather some of the remaining Art from G.R. while a rival faction(maybe Scavengers or something similar) would try to keep Art for themselves(maybe to build a settlement). Plus, I think that the city has enough interesting places to make exploration fun, and I think the Grand River would make for a great place to hide secrets(Ex: turns out there’s a nuke hidden under the Grand River) and random encounters(Ex: A snoopy Art Enjoy who gives you paint).
19:10 -- Þere's also Mackinac Island, which would've likely been untouched by þe war itself as it's a tourist destination and a tourist destination alone, þus retain Fort Michilimackinac. Þe island itself could be a time capsule of þe pre-war world. Þe streets could be clean and buildings largely intact, providing a nice contrast to þe devastation of þe mainland. Maybe include a small car industry þat specializes in emergency vehicles. Perhaps þe US government could've stashed some major cultural works on þe island to preserve þem against worst case scenario (which happens), knowing of its lacking strategic importance.
Minnesota would be so much fun…as a native of the state having my home state destroyed and being able to explore it! I want this The Mall Of America could be like a major caravan hub or loot location as it’s giant! Minneapolis and Saint Paul would be amazing to explore post-war seeing locations I know ruined
Okay, this is now easily my most wanted Fallout location now that you've made this video. I've always wanted a Canadian Fallout game with a Canadian Resistance and a major focus on anti-imperial/colonialism, but Detroit seems like it could do both that and a more traditional Fallout plot and factions. I think the DLC options are great too, but I do think Ronto might be a little too good to leave just for DLC ;) . Also hey, maybe Detroit-style pizza would have survived the war!
I think the peak "unethical highway" gag for Detroit would be a man who wouldn't sell his house having a highway going through his house and having a crosswalk placed so he could get to his kitchen.
In power armor, a smell'o'meter for finding Ann Arbor would be great. As buckeyes say "To get to Ann Arbor, go North until you smell it, then West until you step in it
......You know there would be a hamfisted Robocop reference in there (possibly dealing with The Institute and cybernetics) and I would be all for that.
First time commenting, I've been listening to your videos for almost a month now and I have to say your videos are very informative and I like listening to what all you find and everything. As far as a new place what about Chicago? It's a huge transportation hub and has several places you could use for different things. Also the historical aspect of the city is another aspect you could use. There are several museums you could explore and different neighborhoods as well, it would also be heavily nuked because of the importance of the city to the lakes and transportation with all the trains and subways the city has. I live 6 hours south and visit quite often so I have lots of ideas also there is a place that several people I know have gone to and it's the blind school there so it could be remade as teaching life skills to ghouls or something. Thanks for reading this far if you have!
In terms of things like cryptids, a mutated Michigan Dogman as a boss fight or something would be pretty cool. There’s also the Red Dwarf, which has a festival about it in Detroit, so maybe a faction you meet in game could be a cult that worships the Red Dwarf.
Fallout: Detroit begins in the year 2150 with the violent city completely trashed and in ruins with the surviving residents still wondering why the nukes never hit their city yet.
I think something a lot of fans have been asking for (myself included) is a fallout set in good ol New Orleans. I don’t think I even need to explain how amazing it would be.
The bridge to Canada would be destroyed in the middle with factions on both sides yelling and shooting at each other, never really landing a shot because of how far, then the player finds and unlocks the tunnels. When word gets out, there is a war or peace agreement depending on the choices you make along the way.
This needs to be the plan for fallout 5. Yes this yes. The music and Golden age Detroit styled power armor alone is reason enough. Everything else is just icing and filling but by Atom it needs to be in there! With DLC in Canada that would be a massive step for the fallout universe and as a Canadian I would lose my mind. Great idea man. Absolutely love it
Surprised you didn't mention Willow Run at all; it was also one of the big hubs for war-time vehicle construction, mainly B-24 Bomber planes. It could be another location to visit in Fallout: Detroit, either as another kind of Nellis Air Force base, or as something like the Sentinel Sight, where they turned it into a major stockpile of military supplies that ends up being a target for the Brotherhood of Steel to try and secure.
To piggyback on the raiders fighting over cereal brands, one of the most iconic judge dredd storylines is a two groups in the waste fighting over the reminents of burger king and mcdonalds. One of the leaders is dressed as a psychotic ronald mcdonald. They could do a neat reference to this if they ever did your idea
This was an extremely well thought out exploration of what a Fallout: Detroit could be. It would be nice to see RadKing's vision realized as an actual game. I hope he does more videos like this featuring locations in the U.S.A. as well as other countries. My suggestions would be for Fallout: Mexico City or Fallout: Orlando.
When I was growing up, the Red Wings had "The Hog Line" famous for being scrappers violent nearly to the point of parody. Also, Detroit and Port Huron have history as the end of the Underground Railroad. The Joe Louis Stadium was demolished IRL, but should be around in game. I can't forget to stress how different winter in the deep woods feels to anything else we've seen so far. Minor things like the Amish communities north of the Thumb the Sanilac petroglyphs and the historic Toledo War could add some flavor, as would the placenames that are hard for nonMichiganders to pronounce due to French and Native American influence.
The manufacturing plants that were historically used for building tanks would be prime targets for nuclear attacks, while Downtown Detroit would likely be more intact as there aren’t any major production plants or factories, the outskirts of the city would likely see more of the brunt, I could see an area similar to the Glowing Sea on the map, especially at a manufacturing plant that historically made tanks during WWII.
It would be interesting to see your take on what a game taking place in Wyoming and featuring the empire of the Great Khans as a major faction would be like.
Camp grayling near the mackinaw bridge as well as mackinaw island and all of its historic buildings for a dlc, could also do beaver island off the coast of charlevoix. There used to nuclear power plant around charlevoix so that could play a part in it as well as it being an old lumber area. That and you forgot about the DogMan. Or the UP being similar to Zion with the tribes and special mutated animals while still being green.
As someone from the industrial Midwest I would honestly like a fallout game somewhere around here considering factories would add interesting lore plus we would get corporate lore both expanding corevega lore and exploring new car companies that could exist (plus we could see companies being used for factories to produce ammo) a fallout game in Detroit in my opinion could be like Pittsburg
I see your Detroit, and raise you a map of lower Michigan. We're talking cars. We're talking Great Lakes. We're talking travel. We need a bigger map than just one city to explore! Why not have Detroit and a nubbin of Canada on one side to Chicago on the other side, with travel by land or sea? (Well ... lake.) This opens up a lot more area than just urban, and with Bethesda's love of superhighways... You could even have factions arguing over who has the better pizza. A Wild Wasteland meme of the Blues Brothers. And aren't there some missing Brotherhood of Steel out there? And Canada. If it was done right, it'd be epic, just for the faction and storytelling potential alone. Not to mention we'd finally get our car back. LOL
Being from there, I might be a little biased, but as we’ve already had a game primarily set in the nation’s capital, Washington, D.C. in _Fallout 3_ and 2 state capitals, Boston, Massachusetts in _Fallout 4_ and Charleston, West Virginia in _Fallout 76_ , I’d love to see Lansing included in a potential Detroit based _Fallout 5_ . They could include maybe the state capitol building, a ruined version of our Minor League baseball team’s stadiums and ruins of old General Motors plants in the city. I feel there’s far too much potential for exploration and other uses for it just to be a mentioned only capital city such as Sacramento, California (aka “Sac-Town” in the Fallout lore...nickname _definitely doesn’t need changing because of phrasing or anything...), or a throwaway afterthought like Carson City, Nevada.
The Highway idea for Detroit is appealing and I could see it as even like the center of a big metro area could be where a faction base is or where the most major city would be as it would be a layered city akin to giant underground Cities we see in fiction more often then not. Lowland areas where the poor come out and where there is little protection and the higher you go, the safer the road but more prevalance of things like cars too, possibly having a bigger faction rule the roads with some old world cars that have been stolen from residents of this city or scavenged from areas beyond this Metropolitan city. I could see even a faction in this Post War City be a Ghoul based Mafia, or well the idea that its bigger like what you spoke of in the video. Possibly that Ghoul Mafia idea I had would be in the Nuked part of the city, being the original mafia heads with them being tossed to the wayside by younger mafia who took the main part of the city, and the irratiated wastes of detroit is where the Ghouls are left to live. I feel the Enclave could appear, being an arm from a bigger faction based elsewhere, possibly like Chicago but this part is where the Hellfire armor is being made or maybe where we see a reworking of some stuff from Tactics to make it more canon in idea. Chinese Spies could provide its own faction too, possibly working as a counter to the Brotherhood in this location, with them trying to infiltrate the Enclave to overthrow it. Windsor and places around Detroit would also be cool but I will get into it after I get to DLC, but Windsor could also provide for an Anti-Enclave group who were placed there before Detroit was taken by the Enclave, this group realizing the Enclave is just the US government. I could see this idea of a no man's land between Detroit and Winsdor as something akin to the Red Line and the war between Communists and Nazis in the metro games, where it would requre a lot of stealth and would be apart of the early game, possibly even taking from the above ground train depots in Metro: Last Light as inspiration, but its junkyards of cars: The player having to find a way through a dungeon without getting caught or just fighting your way through with brute force, having to duck in and out of things like buses and other large transport vehicles of the sort. The islands in the river though, I could see be military bases as in the years before Canada was Annexed the tension must have been high so having them be military complexes on each side of the border, possibly with their own expirements would certainly be a very interesting idea for what could occur. Maybe Belle Island could be a secondary Deathclaw facility like the Boneyard from Fallout 1, or maybe some alternative expirements, like being Canadian Prisoners of war getting FEV expirements again even though Super Mutants should get something different for once. Fighting Island being a different complex for Canada, being left abandoned as it was like a listening post that was staged as like a Canadian army complex or air force. Also yes, Vikings could work especially being people from like Minnesota, where you get people sailing in to raid. I can also see detroit as a more snowy enviroment where a lot of the region is frost bitten with the area in universe getting the name: "The Dark Blizzard" due to the amount of smoke in the air mixed with aspects like the idea that it would be the perfect oppritunity for a snowy Fallout game. Detroit DLC could have quite a bit, I mean just south could give you Toledo and you can have a Toledo War based DLC and have a possible joke idea of NPCs being leaders that would have a lineage to the wright brothers maybe. A DLC based with Toledo would just be an idea that is a lot sillier in aspect and I personally would love the idea of the Toledo War in the Fallout Universe strikes again. For Toledo, think Point Lookout or Dead Money as DLC inspiration, being a more isolated story when it comes to DLCs and when there you get a lot more tropey writing and or something that could be sillier. Toronto being a DLC is one I would love to see too as Toronto would be a bigger DLC akin to Nuka World, Far Harbor, or The Pitt, where you go to that world space and it has the potential of being a game on its own, and in the case of Toronto, I think it could be, but having be a DLC can also work given its in major proximety to this Detroit idea and only like one city would be in between the two. The Upper Penninsula is also an idea for a DLC I can also see given there isn't that big of a city up there unless Fallout decides to do its own thing with it. I do not think it would be a good connection for a Twin Cities Fallout game as Minnesota would be the next closest area, like I could see a return to it if we were to get a Twin Cities based Fallout after Detroit, but Detroit would be the better option. Cleveland, Ohio is one I can also see but honestly I think it could work as a Fallout connected to Ohio based in like Columbus or Cinncinati. The other idea from the video in Battle Creek is one I enjoy the idea of, having possibly some prewar robots stuck manufacturing Sugar Bombs and other cereals that would be introduced in this game and be like that Sugar Bombs are the least Biodegradable cereal that we see in Fallout hence why it is still everywhere unlike these other cereals, and the Charms Gang would be a funny idea and I am onboard for it. The only DLC idea I disagree with is Niagra Falls as that locale would fit more with a New York based Fallout IMO, and given the big apple is where Fallout seems to be going next, I can see it being there. However I still think New York should be done for Fallout only if they do a gigantic map as NYC is a good spot, but New York is a bigger state in the north east so you can do a lot more with it than just the big apple, although focusing just on the island is also plausible, working as a way to get 2 DLCs more inland but also maybe having a visit to other locales in that area being closer because ngl... I want to have Rhode Island be its own game, the whole state would be small enough for it and Rhose Island would be able to get very weird and it would deserve its own game to itself. _____________________________________________________ My suggestion is to look at Tucson and Phoenix as a sort of next step from New Vegas because I have like a thousand ideas and all of them would expand into Mexico in some way since I am in the Southwest and Mexico and Arizona are some of the most beautiful natural wastelands with some of the most unique climates. Also you can have a lot of Cazadors. and maybe the Chupacabra Dogmeat would be cool too.
All I can think about is that scary movie scene where Brenda is like “and here is Detroit” and it’s all burned down and destroyed …. then she’s like “and here’s Detroit AFTER the attacks” and it’s exactly the same but with aliens lmsooo
not related specifically to detroit, but i think the intro song for the next fallout game needs to be we'll meet again by the inkspots. it could fit nicely with the scenery of a post nuclear area like the hypothetical fallout detroit.
I'd love to see a fallout set in a remarkably intact and untouched Louisiana. Baton Rouge literally looks like a city from fallout. Look up Huey P. Long and Long Allen bridge and lake pontchartrain causeway. A fallout with greenery and unique landscape would be much better than what we've got. In fallout 4 despite it being over 200 years later, There should be green grass and trees. I'm sure it can still manage a fallout vibe even if you add complete greenery.
Based on this video, I would say a Fallout in Detroit would be really neat/interesting. Would also love to see a Fallout based outside of the US. There's a really interesting Fallout 4 mod in development which is pretty much a whole new game that's based in London (which looks absolutely incredible), and it's got me thinking, how would the rest of the world be doing within the Fallout universe? What other wild factions could there be? What pre-war drama would we discover on old terminals/holotapes while exploring ruins?
My favourite area would be somewhere in Switzerland. Not only because it would be an option to show Europe for once (and maybe have settlements in medieval castles again after you know, medieval times), but also because Switzerland has even today enough fallout shelters for 100% of the population plus 20% on top. I once heard a saying that summarises nuclear war pretty well. All who would survive are some world leaders, cockroaches and 8 million Swiss
Well... i would probably like more Chicago, that vertical setting would look great. And Chicago river could be used as large settlement with focus on river trade.
There is another fort on the Canadian side. Fort Malden. You can see the nuclear power plant across the river. Windsor also has another tunnel just for commercial trains. I mean chemical and oil tankers. The town of Tecumseh is named after a native tribe, and could integrate a native tribe. Windsor has a lot of manufacturing. They use to do all the work for the big 3. Windsor used to hide black slaves that came from the U.S.A. and help them be free. There are a lot of wind mills out side of Windsor and a lot of farming. I used to drive under this dark tunnel that looks like something out of fallout 4 by the old fisher building that was driving to Mexican village. There is a lot of potential in a Detroit fall out. I agree.
As a Detroiter, thank you. My city is a hellscape of horrors, but it would be surreal to play a Fallout Detroit seeing Red Wings gangs or armor. Or seeing streets I actually walked around. That would be a dream come true
I've seen a few fandom ideas for a fallout game set on the big island of hawaii. It's still technically set in the USA, so it wouldn't be breaking Bethesda/Interplays 'no fallout game will ever take place outside of the usa' rule. Plus the somewhat tropical island environment would make for a very different setting from the other fallout games.
You could see about making the map feel huge if you incorporated cars as a travel system to the different cities rather than having one big open world map. Idk if it would make things easier on the system
As far as "iconic" landmarks go there is a large underground mine/network of caverns under Detroit known as the salt mines. At one time a thriving industry it fell into disuse in the 50's as better transportation caused easier salt mining elsewhere to become more financially successful. The space is still there (I remember taking a tour there in the 60's) and could be, in a fallout game, a safe haven for a faction or group. River Rouge was not just an industrial area but a highly toxic chemical enviroment even in the 60's and 70's and could be considered a host area to further mutated creatures. Lastly Chicago is not far away and is referenced as a onetime home to the BOS head council. Might get a lot of lore or could possibly be still another dlc. Good vid
there are actually two tunnels one for pedestrian traffic like you mentioned and another for cargo trains that is further west. Peche Island was the summer home of the wife of Hiram Walker, founder of a local brewing company. you can still see the remains of the foundations today.
I say Miami should be the next in this series. I bet there is a lot of land marks,only Bethesda Fallout game to take place in Southern USA, and has lot of DLC content to. We could have a boat ride to a Cuban colony to stop another nuclear attack( referring to the Cold War in real life) that could be DLC or real game. Either way,we start in Miami. The Everglades could make DLC appearance also,where there will be a lot more Gaterclaws than Nuka World. This could also be great for Marine radiation creatures (which would be terrifying to see a mutated shark angler fish hybrid). Many other things to as it would have a different atmosphere then the Northern USA. Edit: Imagine what a RAD hurricane would be like😮.
I'd like to see a Fallout game set in Seattle, Washington State. Little Bias since I live there but Washington has a lot it could offer to the Fallout Franchise due to our history newer and old. A few examples would be how close we are to the Canadian border, Our Native Tribes, Landmarks, and how we've treated our minority groups throughout the 19 and 20th centuries. A Washingtons Politics would be something that I'd love to see explored in a Fallout universe. We also have respect for the US military having a lot of 'Navy Towns', Shipyards, as well as being home to Boeing. Regarding our treatment of minorities during the 20th century I would predict something similar in the fallout timeline when it comes to the use of prison camps and Washingtons proximity to both Wartorn Alaska and Occupied B.C. A Washington States culture in the Fallout world could very greatly.
FallOut: New Orleans would be cool. The Superdome would make a great landmark. All the voodoo factions. So many haunted places where ghouls can hide. There could be mutant alligators and cotton mouth snakes. Baton Rouge isn’t that far away where there’s Tiger’s Stadium and the Capital Building. I think New Orleans has potential. Edit: Nearly forgot about The Civil War stuff, large plantations, mutant mosquitoes, The Gulf of Mexico. Hell, there could be mutant shrimp and crawfish.
As someone from Flint, I think the ghoulification from the water is just brilliant and even funny
That sounds stupid tbh. Even today with the water tests, lead levels are actually going back up. And do you not know what leads application is with radiation? It would make sense for you to be LESS likely to be a ghoul if you have more lead in your system.
The only thing that could be "cool" is if the potential Legionella bacteria, AKA Legionnaires disease transformed into some sort of semi concious thing that infected something and then took over the hosts body, and made them go to areas with lots of water. So they would be something like those things from the last of us, so theres even variation
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@@ravinraven6913 Lead is often used to shield against radition because of it's density. Generally the denser something is the harder the radiation has passing through it. Drinking water high in lead won't make you less susceptible to radiation poisioning.
@@namelessalias0007 but you get lead poisoning FOR FREE as a bonus
@@ravinraven6913 that's NOT how lead and radiation works. at all. if some small amounts of lead in your body would affect radiation, it would be more "scatter" radiation inside your body when getting an x-ray (meaning the x-ray radiation would cause secondary radiation with less energy and thus more likely to damage your body rather than pass through or get deflected). blocking parts of the image is only one of two important reasons we tell you to take off jewelery or push ups for an xray.
I don’t think anything would change, just a average Tuesday afternoon.
Could have 4 distinctive raider groups based around the Lions, Tigers, Red Wings, and Pistons.
@@IceNinja2007 Don't forget the UofM fans they'd be the worst sort of degenerates.
There'd probably be more light what with everything glowing and all but aside from that, yeah pretty much the same.
Yeah, but Fallout: Tuesday sounds much less appealing.
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As a michigander there is so much potential for a fallout in Detroit. It really just comes down to how creative the writers are.
Only real question is if they are going to explore a pre-war wasteland or post-war wasteland.
@@gholland5840Whats the difference?! 😂😂😂
@@JamMonsterFrfo pre war has more raiders and post has some more rads
@@joaquinvideo2959 damn thats so true😂
Isn't that just default Detroit?
Alaska would be interesting location for a Fallout game, its would be a completely new climate, it would allow for pre-war lore relating to the Anchorage Campaign and the annexation of Canada to be explored more directly and the location would perfectly justify DLCs that takes us into British Columbia - Canada, and Chukotka - Russia allowing us to explore post-war regions outside of the USA.
Plus scary forest mutants
An alaska fallout would have to take place mostly in one city. Living here in alaska, I have to tell you it’s HUGE, and it’s REALLY empty, like devoid of most populated areas except anchorage which is the most major city there is in the state, and it is pretty far from Canada so maybe they could do BC and all that as DLC locations. But yeah, alaska is mostly open wilderness and frigid cold as far as the eye can see
@@domonator5000 That is why I would think that the main map would only be Southcentral Alaska, it would still be the largest 3D fallout map that would largely be wilderness but intelligent use of scaling and new points of interests would stop the map from being too empty. British Columbia - Canada, and Chukotka would mostly likely be locations that are reached by ferry so the distance does not matter that much when coming to the game as a time skip for a 1000 mile journey is the same as a time skip for 60 mile journey.
@@Alexander_C69 going 1,000 miles in a fallout game sounds so dumb even if its just a ferry.
@@domonator5000 well, consider that Fallout 4 doesnt take place in the entirety of Massachusetts, just mostly Boston, so obviously they wouldnt so all of Alaska considering its bigger than Texas.
Detroit has a lot of advantages. Heavily industrialized, lots of landmarks. Good opportunity for lore. Better yet, it's a bridge and tunnel away from Windsor, Canada, and with the Fallout lore annexation of Canada, a great chance to deep dive into the story there.
Also, having a raider style bridge fortress on the bridge would be awesome.
You misspelled ‘heavily deteriorated’ and ‘lots of rubble’
What would they do, just use the current shithole version of Detroit?
Memes
Even though Detroit gets clowned on nowadays, I still think it would be dope as hell to have a Fallout game take place in Detroit, mostly because I live in Michigan and I've walked around in a lot of downtown Detroit, specifically the center but also Mexican Town
Detroit gets a bad wrap. Hell, all Rust Belt cities do. I'm from Buffalo and I'm seeing a pattern with Rust Belt cities lately. They seem to be recovering from the economic collapse of the 70s and 80s. I've seen the Detroit revitalization project and they're doing a great job. Same thing with Buffalo.
It’s funny because the same people responsible for the Midwest/rust belt cities declining now act like these places are irrelevant because there’s “nothing there.” I’m from St. Louis and just like in places like Detroit or Buffalo, there’s a lot of empty industrial space and suffering due to blue collar people being left as an afterthought.
Yup, rust belt cities all have potential once they look beyond simply wallowing in their sorrow about collapses that happened 40+ years ago. They just need to find the things they offer that set them apart and lean into it. Buffalo continues to do a good job of this, and is a way better city than it was 10 years ago.
I live in Grand Rapids Michigan and the hate I see towards Detroit very often has racist undertones to it or extremely ignorant takes that completely ignore the history of the city. Especially in the present day. Property values are rising and new developments are all over. The city has a bunch of old buildings being renovated and new ones going up. A new streetcar line with potential for more routes. There are good things happening all the time. The most rundown areas are old abandoned neighborhoods and even then those are starting to be cleared away or completely renovated bit by bit.
@@GrandMichigan Grand Rapids is one of the prettiest towns I’ve ever been to. It’s so clean.
I feel like it would be Mad Max heaven. You could mod and "pimp" your ride. Have Twisted Metal style battles with raiders. Roleplay Carnegie and found an empire of steel in the Detroit forges and factories. Maybe join a pure water cult trying to return the Great Lakes. Lots of possibilities.
Given that Detroit is nicknamed “Motor City”, this could work.
BGS would need to change their engine first....you can implement vehicles in the current version of creation but it is stil an ancient dinosaur of a engine unsuited for the modern era
if they used UE4 or UE5 imagine what they could produce??, Outer worlds on UE4 was great, no bugs, no glitches nothing technical that just sucked ass and took the fun out of the game but every Creation engine game has the same issues, I'm not arguing the point, I am telling you....they need to replace their engine with something better and sorry if that sounds adversarial but people simply refuse to listen to it or see the problems
@Red Lantern's Rage Sure. With any expectations here we're assuming an alternate reality BGS. The fantasy one that lives in our minds alone.
But it would be cool, though.
@@darthXreven. Probably because just switching to Unreal is not gonna magically fix everything, especially if the developers involved haven't even touched Unreal; See Overkill's The Walking Dead on how that went. You need a lot more time and a lot more expertise to use Unreal if you've never even touched it, which fits BGS to a T, especially for Unreal Engine 4. You're naïve if you think switching to Unreal would automatically do all the work for you; That's not how engine switches work at all.
@Dragonborn Express it wouldn't, but it would be a start. Have small groups of people training to use unreal in the background, Bethesda probably could pull talent from the other studios it owns to aid like with Rage 2. It's very possible. That said I want to see how starfeild pans out before choosing a camp.
As someone whos actually from Michigan this video was absolutely AMAZING and ive been preaching for detroit as a fallout game for ages!!!
thanks for making this i loved it im now off to make sure my porch doesnt get stolen😂
I think Marquette or Houghton in the upper peninsula would be interesting DLC locations. If there were any post war industry, they would probably try to revive old copper and iron mines. There is even the Quincy Mine that is preserved as a museum.
I always thought New Orleans would make a great fallout. There are lots of new good crafting recipes with Cajun food, some casinos, and a lot of landmarks. And the massive potential of the bayou and a water-based transportation system for settlements and connections. I'd love an analysis like this on the possibility
Don’t forget the potential for mutated creatures. My favorite is the Gatorclaw from the Nuka World DLC which is perfect for the New Orleans setting.
A note about potential nearby locations that would have been affected by the war/post war: Dearborn. It's the current headquarters of the Ford Motor Company. It houses major manufacturing, engineering, testing, and housing for the automotive industry, so it would possibly be a target of nuclear strikes. It has two local landmarks, the Henry Ford Museum, and Greenfield Village. The Henry Ford museum is a massive sprawling monument to the early 1900's and the expansion of industrialization and assembly line technology. Greenfield Village is a period park of the early 1900's, and could potentially be populated by neo-amish individuals using the park as a blueprint to build their way of life on.
Another odd note about Dearborn, it has the highest Arab population density outside of the Middle East. Not sure how that could affect a post-war fallout world, but it could certainly add a little spice.
I don’t know why red king failed to mention Dearborn or Canton. I mean come on, who wouldn’t want to visit the NFL Hall of Fame in Fallout?
The Highway act is an exceptional point that I’ve yet to hear anyone bring up, and it would be a perfect fit for the Fallout world. On top of that, though this is more on brand for the Obsidian team than the Bethesda team, Fallout has a history of referencing the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, and seeing as a pretty important thing that happens in that book is the protagonist’s house being demolished to put in a new highway, and Earth being demolished to build a new space highway, that’s just ripe for fun references.
I also really want to see New York City in Fallout also where there is also a good Mafia and Noir background alongside with the music and massive skyscrapers all knocked down and half standing. Not to even mention there are 3 major airports around the city. I know rendering an entire city let alone 3 airports also is a lot but I'd love to see an Enclave base at LaGuardia Airport or something like that. New York City could also be a good place for either the Lone Wanderer or the Sole Survivor to reside.
I could see that as a possible DLC like Far Harbor
I love how much research you've done on Detroit and SE Michigan for this video. As a Michigander, I approve.
A note about the highways in Detroit: None of them are currently elevated. All of them are channels cut into the ground. A potential interesting way to take the Detroit cityscape would be flooded freeways and boats with recycled automotive motors. This could also lead to an avenue to Canada, as the Ambassador Bridge, Detroit River Tunnel, and Gordie Howe Bridge (currently under construction) would likely be defunct after a couple hundred years.
Isn't one of those bridges currently structurally deficient? I seem to recall some worry when Canada's weird convoy ppl were parking their trucks on the bridge that it might collapse.
@@SadisticSenpai61 The Ambassador Bridge is only that way because of its dickhead private owner. That bridge can still be saved but time is ticking as it deteriorates due to some greedy rich asshole.
Yeah elevated highways aren't really practical that far north. They freeze to easily and become super dangerous..
@@KS-PNW i know you mean weather but fun fact Detroit is actually farther south than Boston!
Definitely make this an ongoing series. I'd love to see your take on New Orleans as a future fallout location. Beautiful city with a long history and massive potential for dlc locations nearby.
There would be no New Orleans... We've seen what happens when the levees fail (Katrina), and they wouldn't be maintained after the war... Hell the Chinese wouldn't even have to nuke New Orleans to destroy it. They'd just have to launch regular bombs at the levees.
For that reason I'd rate it at a 1/1000.
@@chdreturns. Grossly oversimplified.
@@chdreturns China wouldn't go out of their way to launch a few regular bombs to the other side of the planet for the slim chance of hitting certain targets dead on. they'd just send a nuke
@@chdreturns Actually, exploring a ruined New Orleans would be pretty interesting. We got it in Wolfenstein New Colossus, so there is some potential.
It would be interesting to see different factions try to maintain control of the 'highway system', similar to Hoover Dam
I don't think that would be nearly as compelling simply because there are way too many highways crisscrossing the U.S.
I love how everyone is chipping in on what neat locations would make for a good world space and potential DLC areas. Devs need to take note on community discussions like this, it's a treasure trove of good ideas that can be forged into a solid core.
The Motor City would be interesting because I don't think the motor companies would have left
Sort of? Definitely would have been more prosperous in the Fallout universe, though by how much more is unknown.
I'd say that given the war with China the production of cars would have dropped off as demand for military aircraft and vehicles became a priority. Became in OTL many industrial factories were converted for military purposes during the second World War.
@@GrandMichigan City stayed prosperous though regardless. Just went from civilian vehicles to military ones.
Okay, you've convinced me. The Joe Louis Arena, Ford Field, and Comerica Park would be awesome settings in a Fallout game. Thing is, you'd have to get into the suburbs for most of the good stuff. You'd need a DLC in Windsor, for instance. The boss would have to be based out of Dearborn, or possibly Auburn Hills or Pontiac for the sake of the Palace and the Silverdome. There is no way that the Brotherhood of Steel would allow the River Rouge plant to stand alone, for instance.
It'd be better with Tiger Stadium. It was just as old as Fenway Park.
Suburbs appear in the maps of other games. You couldn't do a Detroit setting right if you didn't include the Henry Ford Museum, University of Michigan, or Meadow Brook Hall (the 9th largest mansion in the U.S.)
The distance from Ann Arbor to Detroit is only 36 miles. Cottonwood Cove is 54 miles from Las Vegas, so the map has certainly been spread out like that before.
Highways in Detroit are dug into the ground and are basically waterless canals if the they were to be used they would be a way to break up the map and raider gangs would likely control the crossing points because the pits are filled with toxic sludge or basically a kill zone for anyone trying to cross
As a born Yooper(someone from the Upper Peninsula) I do enjoy the call out. There are a couple of things that I had thought of.
The Mackinaw straight as a DLC location. Once again calling heavy on the water as a means of transportation. Mackinaw Island with all the famous locations there(the Fort and the Grand Hotel to name a few) You also have the Mackinaw Bridge there as well having been completed in 57, one of the longest suspension bridges in the world.
Another thing to consider in there is the "animosity" between Yoopers and Trolls(those Michiganders who live below the bridge). While today this is more akin to Far Harbors view of Mainlanders, it could be much more hostile in the future. There have been on several occasions a movement, including legislation, for the U.P. to become a separate state
edit: Also being up north would make the possibility of snow littered map, Similar to parts of Skyrim
I could see the grand hotel becoming the base of a faction like the Gourmands or an elitist breakaway group of the Enclave..
@@KS-PNW Actually I had thought of the whole island being a Tortuga or Nassau for fresh water pirates
Cleveland's DLC can have a mission to set the river on fire and iinclude music-based weapons. There's also a national park right there, the metro area is actually still heavily wooded.
Something that just dawned on me is hockey is SUPER popular in Michigan, which could also lead to implementing hockey sticks as a weapon type and hockey pads as a basis for armor. Vernor's (arguably the first pop) was also invented here, as was the first breakfast cereal via Kellogg's corn flakes, so analogues to those could be implemented there in an interesting way (even though neither was invented in Detroit specifically). Detroit is also the birthplace of Little Caesar's Pizza, which could likewise be used in a ton of interesting ways.
A DLC could also have you travel to the Upper Peninsula (or U.P. as we always refer to it here), maybe Marquette as it's the biggest city up there. I mainly think that would be interesting for a few reasons; one: there's notably larger wildlife up there, such as moose, black bears, pikes, salmon, even mountain lions--all of which could make for interesting mutated animals; two: lake superior is so cold that the bodies of people who've died there never surface, which is BEGGING for a Fallout twist--come on, cold, sunken mutants or some sort of lovecraftian prescience there would be amazing; three: it would be the first location in a Fallout game that would lend itself well to an implementation of Sasquatch, who's typically associated with the Pacific Northwest but has a strong cultural prescience in Michigan as well--especially farther north.
And since Fallout loves referencing horror movie franchises, Evil Dead is set in Michigan, which is a reference that basically writes itself.
I’m actually working on my own Fallout setting to take place in my home state of Colorado, which I’ll be making into a series of videos as my own theoretical Fallout game.
Colorado has a ludicrous amount of military bases, forts, and other government facilities, including Cheyenne Mountain (which houses NORAD), the Air Force Academy, and so much more. The potential for military secrets, special weapons, and more is off the charts.
Nikola Tesla used to live in Colorado Springs, which still houses the Tesla museum. The potential of a secret Tesla lab for some crazy SCIENCE!!! shenanigans is very high.
Denver canonically was the research capital of the country regarding the New Plague and developed the early designs of what would eventually become FEV before that research was moved to WestTek and Mariposa in California. Denver and Boulder were given huge facilities by the government in the last decade before the Great War. Denver also invented cyberdogs, and has a lot of technology fabrication in universe!
Portions of Colorado were under Legion rule prior to the second Battle of Hoover Dam. We could see how the Legion has fractured since the loss of Caesar and Legate Lanius to keep them in line. In fact one of their tribes, the Hangdogs, originally hailed from Denver!
There’s a lot more but I don’t want to tip my hand. I think there’s a LOT of potential for Colorado and I’d enjoy seeing RadKing’s own research and take on the area for game viability.
Dear God... that sounds amazing! Colorado would be perfect for a new fallout game!
@@timothyswanson8773 thank you! And yes, it certainly would! Also, actual weather. Winter conditions! Hahhha!
@Hell Yeah Gaming And hopefully a powerful alien blaster in Cheyenne MT.
I used to live in the springs. Oh how I miss it :(
Could literally tie it in to FONV
Definitely make this a series. A one set in Texas would be great
Fallout: Hell Paso
@@xaikken Fallout: Ghoulston
@@selfdribblingbasketball9769 fallout : YeHaw
@@selfdribblingbasketball9769 Fallout: Metroplex
They would have just shot all of the nukes out of the sky. Wouldn’t make for a fun game.
Love the video. As for what cities /state you should do videos on next I will list the following.
-Indianapolis
-Chicago
-Alaska
-North Dakota (A third of the worlds nuclear weapons are stored at Minot airforce base North Dakota it would also be nice to see some airforce bases)
-New York
-Pennsylvania (Raven Rock Mountain is in Pennsylvania and is called the underground pentagon)
-Colorado (would provide a lot of information on the Great War as NORAD is based there)
I’m actually working on Colorado as my own Fallout setting right now! There’s soooo much to my home state that’d be huge for the franchise. Canonically Denver got hit hardest by the New Plague and was the main research center for FEV before being moved to WestTek and Mariposa. They developed cyberdogs, and the healing stimulant gel in stimpacks! Plus just south in Colorado Speings we’ve got a ton of army and Air Force bases, military academies, and Cheyenne Mountain itself! I’ve done a lot of work on it as one of my projects.
Raven Rock is already featured prominently in Fallout 3.
As a Michigander, specifically from Flint I love this! I feel like someone like Charles Stewart Mott could be a cool character, like he's preserved similar to Mr. House. Is it in Fallout lore that our water is contaminated too or was that a dig to us lol? Also, Mackinac Island would be perfect for a DLC, there's forts and not to mention the Grand Hotel that would make awesome settlements!
The Flint Water crisis would genuinely make for a great bit of lore. I thought of Mackinac Island too, the nearby Mackinac Bridge would make for a fascinating location too.
@nicegram_Rad_King1 yea!?
@@Justin-ox7wc No!
@@Justin-ox7wc i know this is late. but please don't give him any info
I think it would be an interesting idea to allow your character to go over the Niagara Falls in a barrel, perhaps taking pot shots at enemies and wildlife while you flow down into the Falls
I would really love a Fallout: Lake Erie. That’s split between Buffalo, Cleveland, and Detroit. And islands out in the lake off Sandusky or something. All connected from some steel monorail built by settlers post war
To be honest, that sounds like it would take way too much out of even high end PC's, and would also be pretty boring to travel.
I kinda of want to see a fallout take place in Denver and use some of the info from Van Buren
I’m actually working on Colorado as my own Fallout setting right now! There’s soooo much to my home state that’d be huge for the franchise. Canonically Denver got hit hardest by the New Plague and was the main research center for FEV before being moved to WestTek and Mariposa. They developed cyberdogs, and the healing stimulant gel in stimpacks! Plus just south in Colorado Speings we’ve got a ton of army and Air Force bases, military academies, and Cheyenne Mountain itself! I’ve done a lot of work on it as one of my projects.
@@HellYeahGaming I am surprised they haven't made a game other then van Buren or dlc that takes place in the state I was born in
@@HellYeahGaming greetings fellow coloradan lol, i agree we need a game in Denver, its also a sure-fire way to see the canon ending for NV which would be a huge deal.
Detroiter here, don't forget the salt mines, the Train station, the Greyhound complex, COBO Hall, and the adjoining Joe Louis Arena, the DIA, Hart Plaza, and besides Motown, Detroit is the birthplace of Techno and is a mainstay in the electronic music scene.
We also have Selfridge ANG base, and it IS a frequently used testing facility for experimental aircraft.
We're also home to the Vigilantes MC. Also, post-war, the Unions would be heavily involved in rebuilding society and infrastructure. Iconic landmarks? Hart Plaza, Joe Louis's fist, The Thinker outside the DIA, and most iconic would be the Spirit of Detroit statue. All very iconic to the city.
Man I'd eat iguana bits to see Saint Louis, Missouri in a Fallout game.
We've got so many iconic locations from the Gateway Arch, to the Cathedral Basilica, Busch Stadium, the Science Center, the City Museum, Forest Park and all its attractions, Union Station with its massive aquarium, and many more. Not to mention the legacy of classic rock and blues we've got here, having been home to people like Chuck Berry, Tina Turner, and others
The Raftors- a series of towns along the skyways (lol) that make up one larger society. The skyways go through some buildings (like the one that goes through that hospital in Boston) and the towns are incorporated into there as well.
The streets below could be full of rats and raiders as modern day detroit is ofc.
Also, FYI they are undoing the highways here, 375 is already in the process of being destroyed to reconnect those old ghettos. Also there is the Detroit arsenal for the military stuff. The biggest issue though is that Detroit is heavily boarded by farmland so the map would be extremely empty unless your limit it to Detroit itself or expanded to go as far as Selfridge or camp grayling. We don’t have hills so they can’t rely on vertical mapping.
Only that part of the state doesn't have hills.
A relatively flat map gives some opportunities for interesting factions, images some guys came together and formed like the fellowship of the wheel, driving around, raiding settlements left, right and centre, could be very interesting
I'd love Detroit. Might help me not get lost IRL xD
Would love to see how Faygo vs Nuka Cola
Yes Faygo and Vernors
Careful. Once you touch Nuka, a section of the fandom comes out from under rocks and plastic bottles/nesting material; and tells you how evil you are. Bawls Guarana was in game at one point.
@@Dank-gb6jn 😂
@@mcpossum it’s not a lie though 😂. You try sharing a positive opinion about Bawls in relation to Fallout; and see how long it takes for the “purists” to come crawling out.
@@Dank-gb6jn oh, I believe you. I am waiting for them on this post. We have Pepsi and Faygo bottling plants in Detroit. We've seen regional sodas in other games. Why not give good old CB a run for his money in Detroit 😂
Detroit would be an interesting location.
If factories were still intact on any level, I could see them being modified by groups like the BoS, Enclave, and maybe some raider gangs, to make cars and "tanks" like the old mafia cars back in the day.
A set of groups who are trying to get boats or planes back online. Trying to reclaim various factories or the like. The islands could be used as defensive locations for mutants or make them valuable for everyone due to resources that could be there.
The great lakes having a massive waterworld feel to it would be AMAZING, and we could see pre war water vehicles that were being made to fight against the "Ghost Fleet". With a legendary beast that is a prewar robot set to combat mode, but badly malfunctioning so it doesn't appear too often.
As a native Michigander, I would love this
If Ann Arbor is included, I'd imagine my homeland of Monroe would be included with Fermi II, as that's where it is. Maybee too, perhaps. Just because of the name it would be amazing.
I would love a stable republic there, even one with, as it makes total sense. The whole county of Monroe is so ignored by Toledo to the south and Detroit to the north, it wouldn't be nuked. We could possibly see proper post-war flora, not just spore creatures and dead trees that just so happen to have leaves. Monroe country, or perhaps the Republic of Monroe, would be such a bountiful society. It would be cool to see pre-war naval ships used by them to fight off pirates and vikings.
Additionally, in Mothership Zeta the giant lazer hit nearby Detroit in Canada. This would be the perfect reference.
Rad you already know how I feel about a Detroit fallout, you even mentioned some locations I didn't consider like the historical factories and a dlc breakfast cereal conflict that I thought were perfect.
I like the format of the video and dig the idea of it becoming a series. Detroit is my number one pick, but I have some runners up locations that could be fun.
Definitely had you in mind when I was making the video haha.
Someone who lives in Michigan here: to put Detroit in fallout not much would need to be changed, like seriously
I think it might be a little better TBH.
Yep leave it alone and let them sort it out. Would be the calmest city ever lol
When I think of Detroit, I don't just think of cars, but also Rock City.
It would also be a tease because you look across the bridge and there's Windsor.
A lot of people with dual citizenship live in both cities. Although, same could said about Niagara Falls.
Being in Michigan could also be an opportunity to bring the midwestern chapter of the BOS back into the canon and fix some of the lore issues from tactics!
Imo, a dense urban environment has still yet to be done properly in Fallout. Detroit, New Orleans, and Texas sound great in concept, but my issue is that Bethesda nor Obsidian have yet to get a good version of a city. 4 was super dense, but barely felt like a city, and more like a dungeon with a sky box. 3 was a joke, with just a bunch of loading screens leading to small cells. And finally FNV had the Strip, and nothing else. Outer Vegas barely felt like anybody actually ever lived there, at any point.
I think the best environment for the next Fallout would be New Orleans. It has a lot of culture and is a bit more homey than the monstrous skyscrapers of 4, probably a but less destroyed than 3 and hopefully denser and more detailed than FNV.
20:55 As someone from Michigan, I think Grand Rapids would make for a great DLC area. One of Grand Rapids’ biggest events is the Art Prize, a multi day event focusing on art made by people around the city. I think this would make for a great DLC where the play and some Archeologists/Historians would try to gather some of the remaining Art from G.R. while a rival faction(maybe Scavengers or something similar) would try to keep Art for themselves(maybe to build a settlement). Plus, I think that the city has enough interesting places to make exploration fun, and I think the Grand River would make for a great place to hide secrets(Ex: turns out there’s a nuke hidden under the Grand River) and random encounters(Ex: A snoopy Art Enjoy who gives you paint).
19:10 -- Þere's also Mackinac Island, which would've likely been untouched by þe war itself as it's a tourist destination and a tourist destination alone, þus retain Fort Michilimackinac. Þe island itself could be a time capsule of þe pre-war world. Þe streets could be clean and buildings largely intact, providing a nice contrast to þe devastation of þe mainland. Maybe include a small car industry þat specializes in emergency vehicles.
Perhaps þe US government could've stashed some major cultural works on þe island to preserve þem against worst case scenario (which happens), knowing of its lacking strategic importance.
Minnesota would be so much fun…as a native of the state having my home state destroyed and being able to explore it!
I want this
The Mall Of America could be like a major caravan hub or loot location as it’s giant!
Minneapolis and Saint Paul would be amazing to explore post-war seeing locations I know ruined
Okay, this is now easily my most wanted Fallout location now that you've made this video. I've always wanted a Canadian Fallout game with a Canadian Resistance and a major focus on anti-imperial/colonialism, but Detroit seems like it could do both that and a more traditional Fallout plot and factions. I think the DLC options are great too, but I do think Ronto might be a little too good to leave just for DLC ;) . Also hey, maybe Detroit-style pizza would have survived the war!
I think the peak "unethical highway" gag for Detroit would be a man who wouldn't sell his house having a highway going through his house and having a crosswalk placed so he could get to his kitchen.
In power armor, a smell'o'meter for finding Ann Arbor would be great. As buckeyes say "To get to Ann Arbor, go North until you smell it, then West until you step in it
......You know there would be a hamfisted Robocop reference in there (possibly dealing with The Institute and cybernetics) and I would be all for that.
First time commenting, I've been listening to your videos for almost a month now and I have to say your videos are very informative and I like listening to what all you find and everything. As far as a new place what about Chicago? It's a huge transportation hub and has several places you could use for different things. Also the historical aspect of the city is another aspect you could use. There are several museums you could explore and different neighborhoods as well, it would also be heavily nuked because of the importance of the city to the lakes and transportation with all the trains and subways the city has. I live 6 hours south and visit quite often so I have lots of ideas also there is a place that several people I know have gone to and it's the blind school there so it could be remade as teaching life skills to ghouls or something. Thanks for reading this far if you have!
I’m glad you’re enjoying the content! Thanks for the suggestion, Chicago seems to be a very popular location.
In terms of things like cryptids, a mutated Michigan Dogman as a boss fight or something would be pretty cool. There’s also the Red Dwarf, which has a festival about it in Detroit, so maybe a faction you meet in game could be a cult that worships the Red Dwarf.
Fallout: Detroit begins in the year 2150 with the violent city completely trashed and in ruins with the surviving residents still wondering why the nukes never hit their city yet.
I think something a lot of fans have been asking for (myself included) is a fallout set in good ol New Orleans.
I don’t think I even need to explain how amazing it would be.
The bridge to Canada would be destroyed in the middle with factions on both sides yelling and shooting at each other, never really landing a shot because of how far, then the player finds and unlocks the tunnels. When word gets out, there is a war or peace agreement depending on the choices you make along the way.
This needs to be the plan for fallout 5. Yes this yes. The music and Golden age Detroit styled power armor alone is reason enough. Everything else is just icing and filling but by Atom it needs to be in there! With DLC in Canada that would be a massive step for the fallout universe and as a Canadian I would lose my mind. Great idea man. Absolutely love it
Every Abandoned Building has at least 3 pistols minimum.
Surprised you didn't mention Willow Run at all; it was also one of the big hubs for war-time vehicle construction, mainly B-24 Bomber planes. It could be another location to visit in Fallout: Detroit, either as another kind of Nellis Air Force base, or as something like the Sentinel Sight, where they turned it into a major stockpile of military supplies that ends up being a target for the Brotherhood of Steel to try and secure.
To piggyback on the raiders fighting over cereal brands, one of the most iconic judge dredd storylines is a two groups in the waste fighting over the reminents of burger king and mcdonalds. One of the leaders is dressed as a psychotic ronald mcdonald. They could do a neat reference to this if they ever did your idea
This was an extremely well thought out exploration of what a Fallout: Detroit could be. It would be nice to see RadKing's vision realized as an actual game. I hope he does more videos like this featuring locations in the U.S.A. as well as other countries. My suggestions would be for Fallout: Mexico City or Fallout: Orlando.
When I was growing up, the Red Wings had "The Hog Line" famous for being scrappers violent nearly to the point of parody. Also, Detroit and Port Huron have history as the end of the Underground Railroad. The Joe Louis Stadium was demolished IRL, but should be around in game. I can't forget to stress how different winter in the deep woods feels to anything else we've seen so far. Minor things like the Amish communities north of the Thumb the Sanilac petroglyphs and the historic Toledo War could add some flavor, as would the placenames that are hard for nonMichiganders to pronounce due to French and Native American influence.
Oooo, going off of your highway city, make it like Taris in motor. Upper city, lower city, and the under city.
As someone from a small town in Michigan called Howard City. I absolutely would love to see this in game. Or at least a dlc
I hope for a Seattle and Vancouver game personally
i think i’d be cool to see the henry ford museum and greenfield village turned into some kind of horror mission
The manufacturing plants that were historically used for building tanks would be prime targets for nuclear attacks, while Downtown Detroit would likely be more intact as there aren’t any major production plants or factories, the outskirts of the city would likely see more of the brunt, I could see an area similar to the Glowing Sea on the map, especially at a manufacturing plant that historically made tanks during WWII.
The teams could be turned into raider teams and they decide who gets to lead by having an annual game that is a mix of all sports.
Joe Louis's big black fist is the only landmark I know of in Detroit.
It would be interesting to see your take on what a game taking place in Wyoming and featuring the empire of the Great Khans as a major faction would be like.
Camp grayling near the mackinaw bridge as well as mackinaw island and all of its historic buildings for a dlc, could also do beaver island off the coast of charlevoix. There used to nuclear power plant around charlevoix so that could play a part in it as well as it being an old lumber area. That and you forgot about the DogMan. Or the UP being similar to Zion with the tribes and special mutated animals while still being green.
As someone from the industrial Midwest I would honestly like a fallout game somewhere around here considering factories would add interesting lore plus we would get corporate lore both expanding corevega lore and exploring new car companies that could exist (plus we could see companies being used for factories to produce ammo) a fallout game in Detroit in my opinion could be like Pittsburg
I see your Detroit, and raise you a map of lower Michigan. We're talking cars. We're talking Great Lakes. We're talking travel. We need a bigger map than just one city to explore! Why not have Detroit and a nubbin of Canada on one side to Chicago on the other side, with travel by land or sea? (Well ... lake.) This opens up a lot more area than just urban, and with Bethesda's love of superhighways... You could even have factions arguing over who has the better pizza. A Wild Wasteland meme of the Blues Brothers. And aren't there some missing Brotherhood of Steel out there? And Canada. If it was done right, it'd be epic, just for the faction and storytelling potential alone. Not to mention we'd finally get our car back. LOL
Being from there, I might be a little biased, but as we’ve already had a game primarily set in the nation’s capital, Washington, D.C. in _Fallout 3_ and 2 state capitals, Boston, Massachusetts in _Fallout 4_ and Charleston, West Virginia in _Fallout 76_ , I’d love to see Lansing included in a potential Detroit based _Fallout 5_ . They could include maybe the state capitol building, a ruined version of our Minor League baseball team’s stadiums and ruins of old General Motors plants in the city. I feel there’s far too much potential for exploration and other uses for it just to be a mentioned only capital city such as Sacramento, California (aka “Sac-Town” in the Fallout lore...nickname _definitely doesn’t need changing because of phrasing or anything...), or a throwaway afterthought like Carson City, Nevada.
Being a native metro detroiter my whole life this is cool to see people brainstorming about this
A fallout car chase where you shoot out of the passenger side, and butcher pete blasting on the radio would be revolutionary
The Highway idea for Detroit is appealing and I could see it as even like the center of a big metro area could be where a faction base is or where the most major city would be as it would be a layered city akin to giant underground Cities we see in fiction more often then not. Lowland areas where the poor come out and where there is little protection and the higher you go, the safer the road but more prevalance of things like cars too, possibly having a bigger faction rule the roads with some old world cars that have been stolen from residents of this city or scavenged from areas beyond this Metropolitan city. I could see even a faction in this Post War City be a Ghoul based Mafia, or well the idea that its bigger like what you spoke of in the video. Possibly that Ghoul Mafia idea I had would be in the Nuked part of the city, being the original mafia heads with them being tossed to the wayside by younger mafia who took the main part of the city, and the irratiated wastes of detroit is where the Ghouls are left to live. I feel the Enclave could appear, being an arm from a bigger faction based elsewhere, possibly like Chicago but this part is where the Hellfire armor is being made or maybe where we see a reworking of some stuff from Tactics to make it more canon in idea. Chinese Spies could provide its own faction too, possibly working as a counter to the Brotherhood in this location, with them trying to infiltrate the Enclave to overthrow it. Windsor and places around Detroit would also be cool but I will get into it after I get to DLC, but Windsor could also provide for an Anti-Enclave group who were placed there before Detroit was taken by the Enclave, this group realizing the Enclave is just the US government. I could see this idea of a no man's land between Detroit and Winsdor as something akin to the Red Line and the war between Communists and Nazis in the metro games, where it would requre a lot of stealth and would be apart of the early game, possibly even taking from the above ground train depots in Metro: Last Light as inspiration, but its junkyards of cars: The player having to find a way through a dungeon without getting caught or just fighting your way through with brute force, having to duck in and out of things like buses and other large transport vehicles of the sort. The islands in the river though, I could see be military bases as in the years before Canada was Annexed the tension must have been high so having them be military complexes on each side of the border, possibly with their own expirements would certainly be a very interesting idea for what could occur. Maybe Belle Island could be a secondary Deathclaw facility like the Boneyard from Fallout 1, or maybe some alternative expirements, like being Canadian Prisoners of war getting FEV expirements again even though Super Mutants should get something different for once. Fighting Island being a different complex for Canada, being left abandoned as it was like a listening post that was staged as like a Canadian army complex or air force. Also yes, Vikings could work especially being people from like Minnesota, where you get people sailing in to raid.
I can also see detroit as a more snowy enviroment where a lot of the region is frost bitten with the area in universe getting the name: "The Dark Blizzard" due to the amount of smoke in the air mixed with aspects like the idea that it would be the perfect oppritunity for a snowy Fallout game.
Detroit DLC could have quite a bit, I mean just south could give you Toledo and you can have a Toledo War based DLC and have a possible joke idea of NPCs being leaders that would have a lineage to the wright brothers maybe. A DLC based with Toledo would just be an idea that is a lot sillier in aspect and I personally would love the idea of the Toledo War in the Fallout Universe strikes again. For Toledo, think Point Lookout or Dead Money as DLC inspiration, being a more isolated story when it comes to DLCs and when there you get a lot more tropey writing and or something that could be sillier. Toronto being a DLC is one I would love to see too as Toronto would be a bigger DLC akin to Nuka World, Far Harbor, or The Pitt, where you go to that world space and it has the potential of being a game on its own, and in the case of Toronto, I think it could be, but having be a DLC can also work given its in major proximety to this Detroit idea and only like one city would be in between the two. The Upper Penninsula is also an idea for a DLC I can also see given there isn't that big of a city up there unless Fallout decides to do its own thing with it. I do not think it would be a good connection for a Twin Cities Fallout game as Minnesota would be the next closest area, like I could see a return to it if we were to get a Twin Cities based Fallout after Detroit, but Detroit would be the better option. Cleveland, Ohio is one I can also see but honestly I think it could work as a Fallout connected to Ohio based in like Columbus or Cinncinati. The other idea from the video in Battle Creek is one I enjoy the idea of, having possibly some prewar robots stuck manufacturing Sugar Bombs and other cereals that would be introduced in this game and be like that Sugar Bombs are the least Biodegradable cereal that we see in Fallout hence why it is still everywhere unlike these other cereals, and the Charms Gang would be a funny idea and I am onboard for it.
The only DLC idea I disagree with is Niagra Falls as that locale would fit more with a New York based Fallout IMO, and given the big apple is where Fallout seems to be going next, I can see it being there. However I still think New York should be done for Fallout only if they do a gigantic map as NYC is a good spot, but New York is a bigger state in the north east so you can do a lot more with it than just the big apple, although focusing just on the island is also plausible, working as a way to get 2 DLCs more inland but also maybe having a visit to other locales in that area being closer because ngl... I want to have Rhode Island be its own game, the whole state would be small enough for it and Rhose Island would be able to get very weird and it would deserve its own game to itself.
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My suggestion is to look at Tucson and Phoenix as a sort of next step from New Vegas because I have like a thousand ideas and all of them would expand into Mexico in some way since I am in the Southwest and Mexico and Arizona are some of the most beautiful natural wastelands with some of the most unique climates. Also you can have a lot of Cazadors. and maybe the Chupacabra Dogmeat would be cool too.
All I can think about is that scary movie scene where Brenda is like “and here is Detroit” and it’s all burned down and destroyed …. then she’s like “and here’s Detroit AFTER the attacks” and it’s exactly the same but with aliens lmsooo
Let’s not forget about the Detroit International Airport. The enormous airport would be a fantastic battleground thanks to its size and defensibility.
Austin/San Antonio next! Could do both together because of the close proximity between the two
not related specifically to detroit, but i think the intro song for the next fallout game needs to be we'll meet again by the inkspots. it could fit nicely with the scenery of a post nuclear area like the hypothetical fallout detroit.
I'd love to see a fallout set in a remarkably intact and untouched Louisiana. Baton Rouge literally looks like a city from fallout. Look up Huey P. Long and Long Allen bridge and lake pontchartrain causeway. A fallout with greenery and unique landscape would be much better than what we've got. In fallout 4 despite it being over 200 years later, There should be green grass and trees. I'm sure it can still manage a fallout vibe even if you add complete greenery.
Based on this video, I would say a Fallout in Detroit would be really neat/interesting. Would also love to see a Fallout based outside of the US. There's a really interesting Fallout 4 mod in development which is pretty much a whole new game that's based in London (which looks absolutely incredible), and it's got me thinking, how would the rest of the world be doing within the Fallout universe? What other wild factions could there be? What pre-war drama would we discover on old terminals/holotapes while exploring ruins?
My favourite area would be somewhere in Switzerland. Not only because it would be an option to show Europe for once (and maybe have settlements in medieval castles again after you know, medieval times), but also because Switzerland has even today enough fallout shelters for 100% of the population plus 20% on top. I once heard a saying that summarises nuclear war pretty well. All who would survive are some world leaders, cockroaches and 8 million Swiss
Well... i would probably like more Chicago, that vertical setting would look great. And Chicago river could be used as large settlement with focus on river trade.
There is another fort on the Canadian side. Fort Malden. You can see the nuclear power plant across the river. Windsor also has another tunnel just for commercial trains. I mean chemical and oil tankers. The town of Tecumseh is named after a native tribe, and could integrate a native tribe. Windsor has a lot of manufacturing. They use to do all the work for the big 3. Windsor used to hide black slaves that came from the U.S.A. and help them be free. There are a lot of wind mills out side of Windsor and a lot of farming. I used to drive under this dark tunnel that looks like something out of fallout 4 by the old fisher building that was driving to Mexican village. There is a lot of potential in a Detroit fall out. I agree.
Ann Arbor is an gardening implement!
The US Canadian border aspect alone makes me want this.
As a Detroiter, thank you. My city is a hellscape of horrors, but it would be surreal to play a Fallout Detroit seeing Red Wings gangs or armor. Or seeing streets I actually walked around. That would be a dream come true
Mackinac island would make an amazing DLC location
I've seen a few fandom ideas for a fallout game set on the big island of hawaii. It's still technically set in the USA, so it wouldn't be breaking Bethesda/Interplays 'no fallout game will ever take place outside of the usa' rule. Plus the somewhat tropical island environment would make for a very different setting from the other fallout games.
Imagine all the Robocop references you could shove into a Fallout Detroit... I'd buy that for a dollar!
It could be set in South Detroit and you could unlock Don't Stop Believin' for the radio
You could see about making the map feel huge if you incorporated cars as a travel system to the different cities rather than having one big open world map. Idk if it would make things easier on the system
Another plus you could include how the tank factories are there so it would be a goal for the ncr or bos.
As far as "iconic" landmarks go there is a large underground mine/network of caverns under Detroit known as the salt mines. At one time a thriving industry it fell into disuse in the 50's as better transportation caused easier salt mining elsewhere to become more financially successful. The space is still there (I remember taking a tour there in the 60's) and could be, in a fallout game, a safe haven for a faction or group. River Rouge was not just an industrial area but a highly toxic chemical enviroment even in the 60's and 70's and could be considered a host area to further mutated creatures. Lastly Chicago is not far away and is referenced as a onetime home to the BOS head council. Might get a lot of lore or could possibly be still another dlc. Good vid
A dlc in Holland Michigan would be really awesome
there are actually two tunnels one for pedestrian traffic like you mentioned and another for cargo trains that is further west. Peche Island was the summer home of the wife of Hiram Walker, founder of a local brewing company. you can still see the remains of the foundations today.
I say Miami should be the next in this series. I bet there is a lot of land marks,only Bethesda Fallout game to take place in Southern USA, and has lot of DLC content to. We could have a boat ride to a Cuban colony to stop another nuclear attack( referring to the Cold War in real life) that could be DLC or real game. Either way,we start in Miami. The Everglades could make DLC appearance also,where there will be a lot more Gaterclaws than Nuka World. This could also be great for Marine radiation creatures (which would be terrifying to see a mutated shark angler fish hybrid). Many other things to as it would have a different atmosphere then the Northern USA.
Edit: Imagine what a RAD hurricane would be like😮.
I'd like to see a Fallout game set in Seattle, Washington State. Little Bias since I live there but Washington has a lot it could offer to the Fallout Franchise due to our history newer and old. A few examples would be how close we are to the Canadian border, Our Native Tribes, Landmarks, and how we've treated our minority groups throughout the 19 and 20th centuries. A Washingtons Politics would be something that I'd love to see explored in a Fallout universe. We also have respect for the US military having a lot of 'Navy Towns', Shipyards, as well as being home to Boeing. Regarding our treatment of minorities during the 20th century I would predict something similar in the fallout timeline when it comes to the use of prison camps and Washingtons proximity to both Wartorn Alaska and Occupied B.C. A Washington States culture in the Fallout world could very greatly.
FallOut: New Orleans would be cool. The Superdome would make a great landmark. All the voodoo factions. So many haunted places where ghouls can hide. There could be mutant alligators and cotton mouth snakes. Baton Rouge isn’t that far away where there’s Tiger’s Stadium and the Capital Building. I think New Orleans has potential.
Edit: Nearly forgot about The Civil War stuff, large plantations, mutant mosquitoes, The Gulf of Mexico. Hell, there could be mutant shrimp and crawfish.