Disney is Doing So Good
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2023
- The Mouse seems to be getting a lot of hate from audiences recently, and it's hard not to see why. Doug takes a look and sees if there's any hope for the studio.
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They're my childgood and although they're struggling recently gems like Encanto that showcased my native Colombia, i'll always remain loyal to them.
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Disney is a company that is creatively bankrupt and don’t actually care about telling a good story. They just want money and people to get their butts in the theater seats.
Disney is not completely an evil company.
Disney is completely out of control and desperately needs to be cut down a peg and have its stranglehold loosened.
Watch DreamWorks and Sony animated movies.
@@danielsantiagourtado3430 I definitely agree that Encanto that was a spectacularly emotional film (first film to get me to cry in a theater!). But I think it was just a fluke. I think it’s Lin Manuel Miranda who actually made the film good with a lot of his influences on the production and not Disney themselves.
Doug comparing Disney the company to a grandma makes me think of when Disney himself used to project himself as "Uncle Walt"
Walt always use to say he wishes he could be the Walt people saw on tv
It reminds me of how mom sells herself as the kindly mother at moms friendly robot company.
@@Altmetalpunk Walt was also willing to risk professional and financial ruin on multiple occasions. Snow White was a MASSIVE risk which would have destroyed Disney before the company even got off the ground if it flopped. He also stood up against communists which could have had disastrous consequences for him and his company if they had ever gained enough power. The revisionist history that tried to portray Walt as a bad guy is an outright lie.
That sounds really weird, and really awkward.
Walt apparently hated the "Uncle Walt" persona, didn't get?
I think Disney's main problem atm is bloat. They kept snatching up competitors and IPs that they've just become a bit much. There's not much left in the way of competition, so there's no real push to be creative or innovative. The KISS rule applies to more than just storytelling. You can only get so big before you become too big, choosing quantity over quality.
Though just how big does the bloat really consist of? I mean, when people think of Disney, they’re likely thinking of just the animation studio and not everything else they have under their belt before the acquisitions. Like, you got all the live-action movies, the various TV shows (both animated and live-action), the video game developers (which is now defunct), the themeparks, the cruise lines, etc.
So true. Let's hope Dreamworks and Illumination's own recent rise from the bottom will push Disney to try harder with their quality so they can actually compete with their remaining competition.
Recent stuff from Sony and DreamWorks and Illumination is really great and I hope lights a fire under their butt
Speaking of KISS, that was one popular band that fell from grace hard. Like Disney they got too big and eventually made weird albums like Music From The Elder.
They like nore money, who would have thought a company would prefer such an aproach especialy in recent times where money grabbing has become agressive as fak
I would love to see hand drawn animation again.
That's one issue I have.
I feel people only want to see hand-drawn animation because thye only care about style over substance and not about the movie or series' overall quality.
I mean, what, if all of Disney's recent movies that people seem to hate for some reason were all animated in 2D would THAT make them suddenly good in their eres?
Also, they still make hand-drawn content, just not as movies, hand-drawn will never go away.
@@DarkOverlord96well there is something to be said for wanting a story presented in a particular medium. I can agree with your point but would like to emphasize that appearances do matter for any story.
@@DarkOverlord96 2D does add a lot to a movies feel, but your right. People did not like Brother Bear or Home on the Range when they came out (at least comparatively to their older films)
Hand drawn animation on paper, not on a ipad.
@@JayShootHer The only piece of media that I know of made in the past 10 years that was done on paper was the Cuphead video game. It is sadly a near extinct art form
Notice how every 20 years Disney goes through a slump? The 1980s, 2000s and now 2020s.
Even connections to nostalgia don’t seem to be sure fire money makers anymore. A la Lightyear.
That's correct. I believe if it wasn't for 3D Animation Disney would probably ended up being a part of Apple. But difference is that previously everytime Disney entered the "dark ages" they had a whole higher management shake-up, tho they did it only once. What did we get nowadays? A boomerang CEO that doesn't want to leave the company (the truth is Iger didn't decide to retire back in 2020, he was fired by the board for spending way too much money on Fox's assets;) board of directors that can't stand up to Iger and acknowledge the fact that they screwed up similaraly to how it was before Eisner took over and prevented hostile takeover by Comcast; and theme parks that are begging for maintenance.
@@jasondisney holy Crap. So everything suffers at the same time. I thought it was just The Movies that were destroying them. But if The Parks are starting to suffer. Yikes.
@Dan Gurney you cant say lightyear is supposed to be nostalgic. It is a completely different thing. Just part of his name is not nostalgic
I think that's so important to remember because people keep saying stuff along the lines of "oh it's Disney, it doesn't matter if you watch it or not, it'll keep going" but this cycle proves that not watching the crap does force them to pull it together and put out gems.
One of the problems with the remakes is that it feels forced instead of incorporating it into the story naturally. A good example is the Beauty and the Beast remake. The original film had the theme of sexism worked into the story naturally without spelling it out for people. They were assuming that their audience was smart enough to figure that out on their own. They put so much focus on how it isn't acceptable for women to read, but the original story was published in a women's magazine. Hardly anyone nowadays in the U.S. at least, believes this, so why does it matter that they include it? It doesn't enhance the story at all even if it was historically accurate, which it's not.
Virtue signaling.
Sexism wasn’t in it at all. It was a period piece.
Ironically the way Disney tells the story these days is sexist, but against men which Disney seems to believe doesn't exist.
@@Shadowkey392 what’s more historical than sexism?
@@Shadowkey392 history is abundantly sexist, even just on a surface level
Doug has a point, Disney currently is going through another rough patch...but it feels like the longest rough patch they've had in a while.
The longest? I dunno. It seems like the Bronze Age of the company (late ‘60s-late ‘80s) lasted way longer.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 How long exactly?
@@tanimation7289 since 2014 so almost a decade.
@@Nicky2414 probably because this rough patch is worse the bronze age they were at least making new thing's while as opposed to remakes no on asked for and effectively killing one of the most beloved film series in History
@geoffreyrichards6079 Well I said it *Feels like the longest rough patch.* Not that it is.
In simplest terms, Disney's creative team have basically become Analyst 1 & 2, going by the charts. That's always what I think of when I see the changes and blatant pandering being made to existing IP, Rob and Malcolm clinking their "Just Married" champagne glasses and congratulating themselves on appealing to the "millenials/zoomers" or whatever.
But the chart says...
Besides the live action remakes, the animation for the last ten yrs has been pretty much on point. Not renaissance level or classic but anything is better than the 70s and 80s Disney
Apparently they're working on a new movie that is "Back to the old way" and everyone is mad that they're "playing it safe"
Like I'm sorry, of course they are, the fans HATE what they're doing now, so why not go back to formula?
@@Crow_Smithback to formula!!! ( Norman Osborne , Spider-Man )
Do their champagne glasses actually say “just married” on them? That’s hilarious
I think the biggest difference between this current bad patch with Disney and previous ones, is the role of social media and it's way easier to call out Disney on their garbage. Especially their two-face BS in regards to what they say in America vs China and current events down in Florida.
And, at least as how I see it, Disney, at least how I see it, they're trying to throw vast chunks of their past into the attic to be forgotten. I can distinctly remembers ads for Disney in the 1990s that took pride in all their work from the 1920s-1980s, then it's like in the last 7 years or so, it's become, shove all the non-profitable crap out and sell Star Wars, Marvel, and Princesses in the most corporate, top down, passionless chart guy mentality of what will generate clicks.
Which current events in Florida do you mean? 🤔
@@adamdavis1648 I imagine it’s their beef with Floridas head and Disneyworld.
@Galfin SP Did you mean Disney World, or is there something I hadn't heard about that's going on at Disney Land on California in addition to the showdown between DeSantis and Disney World in Florida?
I promise I'm not trying to nitpick, but rather asking for clarification. I genuinely don't know if you meant Disney World or if there's addition Disney controversies in California that you were alluding to.
@@adamdavis1648 Disney world
I 5ink your right, Disney has had downfalls before especially in the 70s and early 80s, however what makes things different this time (aside from the losses in stock, revenue loss from movie bombs like strange world and lighter, from there Disney+ project & bob chapeks screw ups with the parks price increases) IS social media. To say easy internet access to internet has speed up along with social networks becoming mainstream to everyone is a understatement, feedback to film trailers, news stories, business decisions is Instant now, everybody can post comments on thier opinions and comment sections on UA-cam, Facebook, Twitter, and Chad rooms on forums, Disney fans especially have their own UA-cam channels Facebook and Twitter groups, and they’re on forums online. so they could communicate and share their thoughts and notes on Disney business choices & films & shows together bigger and faster, And you’re doing all this Disney is getting more bad feedback because people can call out to each other what they think I’m dizzy choices and it seems that many fans both hard-core average to even the ones who Billy watch Disney film all agree that Disney is not doing good at all.
Disney has always had its ups and downs. The funny thing is some of the better stuff they have put out in a few years has been the projects where they take more of a back seat and let a specific director or team head the project. That's how we end up with stuff like guardians, owl house/amphibia, or encanto. Its also how you end up with more experimentation like you mentioned.
And its a memo other studios have seemed to pick up on. Like sony with spiderverse and dreamworks with stuff like puss in boots for movies, and while older now some of their TV content like Kipo ( which also falls into the camp of what you mentioned, things that deserve more attention, I do recommend it, it would be cool for you to check it out, its seriously a hidden gem)
They all just trying new things instead of operating inside set rules of what "works"
>>better stuff they have put out in a few years has been the projects where they take more of a back seat and let a specific director or team head the project
No, it wasn't "few years", it was always this way. Tron, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Gargoyles, etc. To create a good movie (series, game) you always have to have one leader who oversees the project, making sure everyone on the team knows the general direction of the project and is on the same page. Yes, the team is also important but it can only create a coherent story if it has someone at the top, who leads it properly. No good story can be created by the committee.
Those are still pretty awful with the exception of guardians of the galaxy's first movie being alright.
Hellraiser.
Do Lion King and Zootopia count too? I mean, I know Lion King would count since it was made by a "b-team" of sorts while most of the company was focused on Pocahontas (at least according to TVTropes). But I'm not 100% sure if Zootopia counts.
I’m hoping Wish will be their next Little Mermaid and Tangled and they can go back to that fantasy storytelling and really play with it!
Well I have some bad news
I can sum up the state of Disney: Imagine if you will someone buttering toast, they keep swiping back and forth so many times, the butter is thin and the toast is cold. Between buying out other studios to get a piece of their pie and their own Disney+, they have spread themselves so thin creatively, that it's the rare gems that have any staying power. But Disney wouldn't have the capital to produce those gems unless they has the financial backing from the average masses for their generic shovel-ware that's pumped out without much thought or care. The Big D needs to go to sleep for a few years and come come back with something more original after the market has a chance to rebound; remember when Disney was in it's low stage, other studios were surpassing them and moving the industry forward, and seeing that, when Disney came back, they had classic hit after classic hit for the first few years straight. Disney, go home, your drunk (on power) and get some rest.
You don't really understand how business works. It's not one guy buttering the bread. It's a team buttering multiple pieces with lots of butter available. It's just a question of if the person buttering the bread knows what they are doing.
What exactly do you mean by “sleeping”? Even if it’s just a few years, that sleep could easily become a death sentence to a company if they’re not producing some creative output.
@@SilortheBladeAnswer: They don't.
I'm really hoping Wish ends up being the wake-up call for Disney
I wonder why this movie is not mentioned in the video. Has Doug Walker not seen the first trailer yet?
I’m hoping to and I’m also hoping the villain will be evil just cause he’s evil
@@axelschweis4793 He’s seen it. He commented on it yesterday. Probably after he finished recording this
Fingers crossed
@@axelschweis4793 I’m assuming this was filmed before that trailer came out
I want Disney to rediscover itself, to find stories that can give awe and laughter, and to think of its average fans and not the hyper fans.
And not the fake fans either. The people who say they're fans, but in reality want to change everything to make it what THEY want. Too many of these people who claim to be fans of classic works change it to be near unrecognizable, to the point where you need to ask "If you didn't like all of these things to the point of changing them, then what did you like?"
Those people aren't fans of these IP, they're fans of the popularity the IP holds, and of what that popularity could do for them.
@@jacobyullman5005
Amen!
Not me. I dream of a world without Disney. I know it’s unlikely the company will disappear completely, but one can dream.
Yeah, right? I know of at least one fairy tale with black people already in there that Disney can use, and it's a bohemian one. But of course, having the white princess fall in love with the black fourth son of the king of a micronation, that's not PC.
@@yudithcaron8053 Wasn't there a Princess and the Frog with a black princess as well in the past? :/
1. I love that Doug basically said Disney is MomCorp from Futurama.
2. Disney has had numerous peaks and valleys in the last century (trust me, I was born in '88.) They always climb when they find new talents with something different to say. We're still working our way out of the pandemic, so it'll take awhile to get there, but that upswing is coming.
Relating to momcorp, the line about how Walt could have been a dictator in another life was certainly something to think on. 😬
It's kinda funny, but only because that potential side of Walt didn't fully manifest in known history.
From a creative standpoint, I would definitely say that Disney has been going through a rough patch. I'm surprised that there wasn't more of spotlight given to their televised animation, like Gravity Falls, Amphibia, The Owl House, and the first half Star vs. the Forces of Evil, as I feel like that's where a lot of their best stuff has come from in recent years.
all those and Wander over Yonder, Disney seem to be great at letting creative people start on something great, then push them to finish it as soon as possible. Why, I still don't know, but that really seems to be the case.
Let's face it, as long as Disney keeps making money, they're going to stick around and do and make the same thing over and over again, whether we like it or not. With that said, I give them another decade.
I mean, "do the same thing" include both live-action remakes, half-ass sequels, straight to video (or now stream, i suppose), etc, but it also includes new good, and sometimes even culturally inclusive projects, like Moana, Encanto, and Coco. Good with the bad. And the good's usually worth it in the end, imo.
Disney is FIRING thousands of employees now. They're loosing money. The Mouse Bleeds.
They have lost $100 billion dollars in 2022 that’s not good at all.
@@liamphibia ESG will recoup their losses.
@@tylere.8436 Can’t paper over billion dollar losses forever. Between the complete failures of Disney+, Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm that have added up over the years they need to make serious changes and hire quality writers.
I’m hoping Wish is able to be this generation’s “Little Mermaid” (No, not the live action remake coming out ugh 🙄) and help get Disney out of the slump they’re in, maybe launch another Renaissance. We’ll see.
Don’t see what’s so wrong with a black mermaid u clearly were a daddy’s boy
@@Dutchvanderlind.-0- When did I say I had a problem with a black mermaid?
Yeah that's sadly not what happened
It really angers me that when everyone FINALLY gets excited for a Disney movie, being Elemental, some people just have to come along and ruin that because how dare we like ANYTHING Disney nowadays!
Especially when people say that it sucks (even though it's not even out) because it features a STRAIGHT couple.
@@DarkOverlord96 That is a dumb reason to say something sucks. Though I can almost garuntee there would be far more people saying the same thing if it were a gay couple. It'd be equally stupid. In general, people just need to stop being so reactionary.
I’m the type of person to give credit where it’s due. I’ve criticized Disney for treating their workers poorly and for their soulless live action remakes, but I’ll give them credit for making new original movies. I happen to be more excited for Wish than Elemental (which comes out around the same time as Spiderverse 2), but I won’t blame you if that movie intrigues you or anyone else! :)
@@DarkOverlord96 I don't know where did you get that from, but the movie trailer isn't disliked because there are straight characters in it ( I would say it's a strawman argument until I'm proven wrong ). It's disliked because the story seems predictable and the worldbuilding is incredibly messy.
I completely agree. It’d be nice if they’d just try something new and take more risks. Also I think it’s more popular to judge them now because the other animation studios are doing well and moving forward with new ideas.
Super Mario Bros has HUMILIATED Disney animation, because it is approximately one billion times more popular than anything they have come out with in the past five years. If they don't take that as a wakeup call (like they should), then Disney is truly doomed. And Universal is just going to continue crotch-stomping Disney.
@@jacob4920 Haha yes. It should be a wake up call! And Puss in Boots was a surprise hit too! Disney has to step up their game.
@@jacob4920
Because of just 2 movies? Get real dude.
The 2010’s were Disney’s dark days. They had wonderful cartoons at the time, like Gravity Falls, and movies like Zootopia and Tangled. However, most of their other movies, cartoons, and tv sitcoms fumbled. Here’s a list of the mediocre/bad of 2010’s Disney:
The Good Dinosaur
The Planes movies
Cars 2
Cars 3 (debatable)
Bizardvaark
Girl Meets World
The live action remakes (except for the Cinderella remake)
Dog with a Blog
PrankStars
Bunk’d (after season 3)
Shake it Up (debatable)
Frozen 2
Wreck it Ralph: Ralph Breaks the Internet
And they say the 80's was Disney's dark age, but I much rather watch the Black Cauldron than watch Cars or Planes.
Forgot about the planes movies until now
@@Mr.Atari2600it's a simple cycle.
1. Disney has a strong period with wonderful groundbreaking animated films.
2. Disney falls into a slump with unoriginal old ideas and higher focus on making profits over good movies
3. Disney greenlights a film that is a groundbreaking childhood definer that puts Disney back on track and the good movies start rolling again.
cough.................FROZEN...................cough
Ah, yes. They had only one cartoon during the 2010's. Once a GF fan, always a GF fan.
I'm hoping Wish is going to be this decade's Little Mermaid, not that other Little Mermaid. Just to remind everyone why we love Disney in the first place.
I feel some of the disappointment with Lightyear was due to the fact that people were expecting something a bit closer to the television series, and we didn’t really get that. As well as the twist ending just doesn’t really work. One thing that would have fixed it in my opinion would be at the end when the Zurg armor turned on again, you heard Wayne Knight saying “Lightyear.”
Lightyear as a film is not something any child in the 90's growing up would have wanted to see. Especially for a brand new toy line that according to Disney is the reason that Andy wanted a Buzz Lightyear action figure. The marketing of a film like that in the 90's would have been atrocious and the closest film in the 90's to what this Lightyear movie was, is Contact with Matthew Mcconahay, go watch the trailer for that movie on youtube and try to convince yourself that a kid would have been excited to buy a Matthew Mcconahay doll afterwards.
Anyone with a functioning brain could have told Disney that this was a terrible idea to make a Buzz Lightyear movie so boring and devoid of aliens when it should have been more like an animated Galaxy Quest, which funny enough had Tim Allen. They already had the perfect blueprint right in front of them from the man who should have been their lead's library of works. But they are functioning retarded alcoholics which is why Disney has lost tens of billions of dollars in the last few years.
Thank you for providing a fair, nuanced take on things! I do remember you saying Disney was dead after seeing The Lion King remake though, but that was a fair assessment if we’re being real 😂
Disney is like the friend you grew up with who you aren’t anymore because they turned into a crappy person and they are on drugs
Yeah, the drug really makes them feel like they are in their own world
And they xonstsbtly reminded you of how many toys and things they have
Yeah, Disney is really in a comfort zone throughout the last years, while the other studios are recently taking more risks with new experimental stories and visuals. The new movie Wish could be a turning point, it kinda looks promising
I will say, I do have some good hopes for Wish based on the new trailer. The art style is lovely and is a nice looking blend of 2d and 3d, the visuals remind me a lot of stuff from the Renaissance, the story looks like more of a traditional magical adventure, and the villain looks like he's going to be going back to the fun flat out evil kind of baddie which I'm really excited for. We don't know a lot but i'm certainly hopeful based on what we've seen
Doug comparing Disney to a grandmother-ly figure with skeletons in the closet reminds me of Mom from Futurama
And yeah, I would love to see Disney take a few more risks than just playing it safe. Soul was legitimately a really inspiring movie for me and I think they could do some really great movies like that if they're willing to give it a try
I saw this title and thought Doug accidentally scheduled the April Fool's video on the wrong day 😆
I loved how Doug was in this video. He wasn't calling Disney an evil company, saying they hate their fans, nor was constantly complaining like most people do when they talk about something a company does that they dislike. He was just having a positive attitude and pointing out the flaws of Disney and critiquing them. As well as throwing in some humor.
That's the way to go! People need to learn to do this when criticizing a company. Specifically Twitter users and other UA-camrs.
Geeks and Gamers, Nerdrotic, The Quartering, Ryan Kinel, JosiahRises, and others I’m looking at your direction
Actually he's just saying what other UA-camrs said YEARS ago.
As for "having a positive attitude", try being under constant social media attack, death threats, attack lists drawn up by "activists", and fake flagging campaigns to get your channel destroyed and see how positive you'd feel under the circumstances.
@@sigmacademy I'm confused by your comment.
Did people attack NC?
don't question product, just consume and then consume next product
This is exactly what people were trying to warn us about when Disney started buying all these IPs and companies. We would get more mediocre content being churned out.
If Disney is doing so good, then how come they keep laying off employees?
‘Cause they’re fixing the damages that Chapek caused during his (almost) three years as CEO.
Because they're in the mist of a corporate restructuring, and they're mostly cutting the redundant positions.
Yeah!!!
I think the title is sarcastic
Money?
For me it's not just Disney it's most of western TV/Movies as a whole. Before Endgame I probably watched 80% live action stuff from Hollywood and 20% anime and since then it's switched to 90% anime 10% live action and my viewing experience has improved tenfold.
Both are terrible these days.
If I am to watch either then I'll go back to the older stuff from around the 80s.
@@Gambit771 Would you have any recommendations for the older anime I feel like I still haven't seen as much as I'd like. Probably the biggest thing I watched from the old days was Legend of the Galactic Heroes which was spectacular.
Disney should be giving the reigns to more new creators. We need more Owl house/Amphibia stuff but on the big screen. Take risks and make new trends.
If Dana and her crew weren't STRANGLED by Disney up to the point of cutting their show short and Dana leaving we could have gotten SO much more from them.
We do not need lgbt propaganda on the big screen, they’re reputation is already going downhill a movie with owl house themed would only put the nail on the coffin
@@George_Fl0yd no one asked for your homophobic opinion you Trump loving FUCK
@@George_Fl0yd oh my god an anti LGBT comment without hundreds of responses
@@lemmy4990 yes a suprise to be sure but a welcome one
I would like to see a Disney version of either Hamsel & Gretel, The Pied Piper of Hamelin or Rumpelstiltskin. Which story would you like to see them adapt next?
Princess and the Goblins would be so great.
The Wild Swans.
Thumbelina sounds right up their alley. I could also see them adapting the historic figure In Batista's travels into a fun movie.
@@bobi200samatar6 I agree. Maybe they could do Tom Thumb as well. Unfortunately, Thumbelina was already made into an animated film in the 90s by another studio. But it could easily be confused for a Disney movie.
Every other animation studio was trying to be like Disney back then.
@@reefconvy7291 Yeah, but we're in the cgi Disney era, so it really wouldn't look that similar to Don Bluth's Thumbelina. Plus, it's been over 20 years, I think that's enough time for another studio to tastefully give their take on the story.
Have you seen the trailer for Wish?
The film might make or break Disney reputation.
The version of the little mermaid that I read was slightly made kid friendlier and had a christian message.
The little mermaid was interested in souls and learnt that as a mermaid she didn't have a soul and humans did. So she went after the prince in the story to become human and gain a soul.
Story goes how you imagine, she's given the opportunity to kill the prince but refuses to and throws herself to the sea. But rather than just become seafoam. She shoots up and joins the sisters of the sky (can't remember their full name) and they say that because she refused to kill the Prince she was saved and was given the chance to earn a soul should she do anough good deeds in 100 years.
How is any of that Christian though?.
That’s the original Hans Christian Andersen story.
Disney's executives are no longer interested in making movies they're interested in making statements.
Highly divisive and toxic statements at that. :/
Live action Jungle Book is the only good live action remake. Not that it’s better than the original, but that King Louie scene justifies it’s existence 😂.
I think the biggest issue for disney proper and why theyve fallen into live action remake after remake is the animated world has very tough competition now. Between the tear that dreamworks has been on, cartoon shows are just have some amazing things and sony even ripping it up with the spiderverse and the mitchels. Animation is in a place where there some amazing stuff so its a real challenge to make an animated film nowadays. Like in a world where animation seems to be on the rise a company that has relied on older stuff for so long just doesnt seem able to keep up
It doesn't help that they wasted nearly a hundred billion on Lucasfilm and Fox.
Both have been net negative profit wise for the company.
Don't forget Anime, it's way more popular these days than Disney.
My thoughts are that Disney spends too much to make a dollar. The people who control it weren’t there when Oliver & Company forced them to create Little Mermaid from scratch.
I’m with you on live action remakes, there are too many pieces of fiction undone or nonfiction not done that Disney could definitely start leaving new marks.
At the very least, if there's one thing I feel has been mostly great with Disney, it's their original animated films. Those have been really good for the most part. On top of that, it's really nice to see them releasing good trailers for them again, you know, ones that don't focus primarily on humor and clips made exclusively for the trailers/teasers and nothing else. So yeah, remakes are way too frequent and their sequels leave a lot to be desired, but at least I can look forward to most of their original animated works.
I think people sometimes forget that Disney is not a mortal entity and that most of the slumps they have gone thru are products of big shake ups in their animation studios and upward.
The first slump was caused due to the death of Walt Disney, causing the company to panic and not have a real vision for a while. Then in the early 90s they found one and they were back in business once again.
However, everything went to chaos again when infighting between staff resulted in the creation of dreamworks, which eventually once again put Disney in a creative slump. Thank goodness Pixar was there to carry their asses through the mid 2000s, even if that also added to the 2nd slump of Disney due to the popularization of 3d over 2d.
At the start of the 2010s,it seemed that Disney once again found a new vision with movies like Tangled, Frozen and Moana, but thanks to movements like the Me Too debacle they ended up losing more staff in the process and when you know it, now they have found themselves in a new slump.
My point here is that is not really about a company going into "creative slumps" , but rather not finding the right people to do the job.
Which is why I think Disney is in serious trouble right now, since the competition is more frighting and successful than ever before and as if that wasn't enough, it seems that Disney as a company has become a bizzare mix of half a cold calculated corporate entity that cares only about profits regardless of artistic merit and half an obnoxious pile of activists that seem to care more about making statements on topics that are none of their business than making profits.
It really feels like they're at their most vulnerable now since they now have a massive entertainment empire that could crumble and leave no survivors behind.
I recall the first big slump for them was during the ‘40s, when they had their big-budgeted films flopping at the box office, followed by the animator strike and WWII, which lead to them giving up on fully-animated feature films temporarily till they regained enough finances again at the start of the ‘50s.
Something I'm surprised you didn't mention in Disney's history is the effect their competition has had on getting them out of these slumps. I think that when a company has no competition they tend to get self destructive as they have nothing to lose so why even try. Movies like Puss in Boots and Pinocchio probably have them waking up to the fact that if they can't give audiences what they want, someone else will. How they respond going forward could prove interesting, but I'm glad animation has some interesting alternatives at least.
It's a mistake to think that Disney's biggest competition is Dreamworks or even Illumination, their biggest competition is simply the anime market, people do not talk about Disney films, recent ones that is in the same context that they discuss the old works. But you have so many different age groups who, not even counting shows like DBZ or Naruto. Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan are so massive they are in the public perception despite being anime that is only a few years old. It took series like Sailor Moon, Mobile Suit Gundam, DBZ a decade to really get traction, about the only exceptions were Pokemon and Yugioh and that was mostly due to them having a massive sales market that the shows were actually supplementary material to the main product of games.
But My Hero Academia, isn't even a decade old in Japan and it's had 3 movies released and all of them internationally as well.
Disney's competition isn't other western animators because they simply cannot grasp the same level of cultural attention, if they put out a movie, people go like oh it's the next Dreamworks or Pixar movie, but new anime series are getting far, far more people to look at them and talk about them. You can look to DC and Marvel in the Comics vs Manga, there are about 8 or so Manga publishers that sell more manga than either of those two do comics and some of them like Shuesha outsell them combined.
It's a simple understanding that Disney has lost the public's favor and as much as people want to say it's bad product, you can't make a bad product without bad producers, Disney's current executives are corrupted in ways that others screech about it being unfair to point out, but it isn't hard to make a movie that the audience would go, "well that's alright I guess" a mediocre product is easy to produce but they are making bad products and trying to gaslight people into thinking they are good products and shame the ones who can smell a turd wrapped in shiny paper.
With the grandma comparison it's kinda like when you start growing up and moving away from family to be with friends more, and grandma tries to win you back with cookies and stuff you liked before. Sometimes you can just feel like a kid and others you can't have that kind of cookie anymore because she mixed up the chocolate chips for expired raisins she found three years later.
Speaking of Disney, Has Doug been to Disneyland recently?
Well they weren’t lying about the dragon breathing fire 😂
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As culture changes, so must the movies. I believe that we as a culture are super stressed, where I think Disney should realize that and make movies that make us feel better... Back during an other times, we were feeling generally good about ourselves, so more of a dose of reality and a message, was appreciated. Nostalgia is kinda like a drug, you get a brief high putting yourself like it was when things felt better, but it shortly gives you a down knowing things are worse now after it is over, and perhaps when rewatched. We want to know now that things will get better. I think Disney needs to direct it's focus on getting its paying audience to feel good again, because that is what we really want. In the future the darker, or in depth stories may work again, but not now.
That's not the problem. Disney has been giving audiences their dopamine fix for ten years, particularly with their obnoxious remakes.
@@jlev1028I don't think they make people feel good though. Definitely not me. Quite the opposite.
That's interesting; do you have any examples of what makes certain movies more "in depth" and what makes others more "feel good"? 🤔 Not trying to argue; I'm asking for examples out of genuine curiosity.
@@adamdavis1648 The Original Star Wars was a Feel good. The late 1970s has a lot of the tensions we had today. Bad guys who were the bad guys, good guys who you liked and rooted for, fancy special effects, but a kinda cut and dry story. Compared to the late 1990's with the Matrix. The 1990's for the most part was economically strong and people were doing well, and had a comparable easier life. We had a more complex story that made one think, the good guys were much more flawed and unlikable. There were surprise bad guys and the reward for victory is more suffering, vs a decent life if you lost. When things are tough you want to escape to a simple story. When times are good you need more challenge.
@@toddfraser3353 Interesting; thanks!
I realize that Disney has recovered in the past. But really, that's only been under CERTAIN PEOPLE! Bob Iger (the man currently running the show) is not that person. So long as Iger is in charge, Disney is going to continue circling the drain of the toilet. If change is going to happen, they need to start at the top. Not the bottom. Because all of these Disney layoffs, right now, are doing exactly two things: Jack and $hit. And Jack left town...
"Disney is doing so good!"
Best joke I've heard this week~
They made 20 billion in profits this year...
@Shin Kong Disney just laid off 4k employees, and 3k more will come soon. They're simultaneously planning to cut spending by about 5 billion. None of this is a sign of "doing good".
They haven't had an animated movie do well since 2019, every other animation studio seems to be doing better
@@keystrix3704 Who gives a shit about your signs? They made 23 billion dollars, more than annalists even predicted.
@@ScooterCat64 that's because of covid though.
In my opinion, Disney did a terrible job at setting up new franchises that aren't animated the past 15 years, they always tried to push the new Pirates of Caribbean and making these movies with huge mega budgets that in no way could make money back, like Prince of Persia, Tomorrowland, John Carter, Lone Ranger, etc. Now they are in a tough spot, people are slowly drifiting away from their animations, live action remakes, Marvel and Star Wars and that is a red flag because that is sort of all the have right now. They barely have any secure IP that are outside these 4 categories that audiences love and will see it no matter what.
It's interesting seeing this video honestly it shows how much of the really positive person you actually are, and how you can still hope things get better even if you play a role in critiquing or making jokes. you can still be less cynical than most people and I really respect that, the idea that Disney's Big Bad no matter what they do even before something comes out people initially nowadays just hate it, but one of my friends had said something I've been hearing around a lot I think most people just grew out of something that initially wasn't really for them anymore that doesn't necessarily make it bad or good, but people just can't like something that they don't feel a personal connection to anymore.
I have felt that a very minor problem was the audience themselves. Some people grew out of it, some stayed, some just started, some became too obsessed/passionate, some just hate things for the sake of being edgy, cynical, or making a profit out of it
Yes! Finally someone points out that it's pretty much a trend recently
For another Toy Story movie I'd like to see one of two things: Either make a moving that is JUST the opening sequence of Toy Story 3, with Andy playing wit his toys but them living out the fantasy in a grand epic way, and seeing how they work all the toys into one continuity would be really cool. Or else, do just a Woody movie. Have it set in the old west, and do a proper western in the vein of the Good, the Bad and the Ugly or the Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. This would give the studio an occasion to play around with need art style mechanics, trying to replicate the actual look and feel of a proper western in animation
Disney needs another Don Bluth.
What Disney needs is guts. Safe investments have and are failing them (I reminded my mother about how in the original Aladdin movie he fought against the villain who turned into a giant snake and explained how in the new one Aladdin fought against a giant Iago. She was very perplexed since she couldn't even remember there was a parrot in the first movie) But someone once said that every time Disney is in a dump they have been rescued by H.C Anderssen's stories. There are a few obscure ones to find under his name after all. They have been good at turning those scripts into movies (though I also believe they need to restrict themselves and make more compact stories). I recently watched the documentary of how "1899" was made, and one of the actors said he appreciated the directors weren't afraid of the ugly side of humanity because "if the director is afraid of going all the way, I can't act." Which is why I believe Disney need some of that fearlessness. Children should not be underestimated.
1:23 the kind grandmother image is what makes Futurama so good with Mom Corp.
Have you guys seen the Flounder and Sebastion posters for the Little Mermaid remake?
Love these videos Doug! Keep them coming!
I don't really care for Toy Story 5 and Frozen 3 but I've been wanting sequels to Inside Out and Zootopia so I'm really excited for those!
I think zootopia 2 could have potential. I loved that setting and it could lend itself to all kinds of stories if done right
Some of these problems are also just modern Hollywood problems in general. And as much as it hurts me to say this, the Mario movie succeeding will likely do more harm than good. Now Hollywood will look at the movie and it’ll enforce their decisions of casting celebrities over talented voice actors, and shoving references down your throat as a replacement for substance
To be fair, compared to what Warner Brothers is doing now, I think Disney got off easy.
I'd tolerate the hammer-to-crack-a-nut identity politics, if Disney still employed talented writers. Kenobi proves they do not.
“Kenobi” might not have been perfect, but I definitely wouldn’t call it terrible. It had a lot more thought and character put into its dialogue than Lucas did with the prequels.
Hammer to crack a nut? You really hate yourself that much that you would crack your own nuts with a hammer?
Book of Boba Fett had some baffling writing choices.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 "I wouldn't call it terrible" isn't glowing praise, is it? It's Disney. They should have access to the best writers available. Their D+ output is mediocre at best. It takes a movie like, say, the highly entertaining Puss in Boots to highlight how by-the-numbers and dull Disney's output now is.
If you think the original version of the little mermaid is dark, you should see the origin of sleeping beauty
I don’t think I have ever been excited for a Pixar movie from the commercial but I do really like a lot of Pixar movies - I think Pixar just isn’t good at making commercials. I’ll watch elemental but not in the theater, I’m a little leery of Disney right now.
2:04 honestly, EPCOT sounded like it would have turned into a cyberpunk city.
Also Bioshock took inspiration from it.
I agree, im 41 and Ive already seen this happen twice but they really need to go back to the drawing board. These remakes are not the way to go.
Some of this can be blamed on now ex-CEO Bob Chapek, who was a brainless bean counter that fell over backwards into the position and visibly had no idea how to run such a large company, but Disney was trending into this "safe" direction even before him. I agree that it's just a rough spot; it's silly to think that the company hasn't had low points in the past, even when Walt was still around. They always bounce back eventually, that's called "business". There's a lot of buzz among fans of the parks right now, because those are all actually doing really well and they are making concessions in that division to try and improve, however slight it may be. Chapek getting fired shows that at least some people in the company want to change, and I would say that we are in a transitional period at the moment. How well or poorly all of these sequels and remakes actually perform is going to decide what Disney does going forward.
How was it Chapek's fault, when he was hardly there long enough to influence ANYTHING?
@@sigmacademy OH BOY KIDDO, let's list LITERALLY EVERY GODAWFUL THING THAT MAN DID in the short time he was there:
- Spent billions of dollars on frivolities such as virtual reality and cruise ships that only go to Singapore
- Screwed over writers and actors making content for Disney Plus (Scarlett Johanssen even sued him for this one)
- Got into messy, public feuds with Disney bloggers and openly insulted the fans on his social media
- Started a messy, public feud between the company and Florida's batshit insane governor that is STILL GOING
- Replaced the entire executive staff with his cronies and lickspittles
- Fired several higher-ups at Marvel in order to create a position for his own son
- Fired an ENDLESS list of legacy employees who had been with the company for years because they told him to stop being an asshole
- Paid cast members and other "low-tier" employees so little that they had to start living out of their cars
- Attempted to lay off half the company during COVID
- Filled the parks with windowless, box-shaped buildings
- Relegated Pixar exclusively to streaming
- And, of course, used the money that was meant for original projects to fund more remakes and sequels, so many that the company has NO CHOICE but to continue producing them because they already spent billions of dollars on it
Why in God's name do you even THINK he got fired so quickly in the FIRST PLACE, doc? That kind of thing of thing doesn't just "happen"! You have to fuck up SEVERELY to get that.
You could make the argument that this is their fourth dark age, as the first one was technically World War II/the 1940s, when they were forced to do nothing, but make package films.
It does sound like you recorded this prior to yesterday, so I do wonder what your thoughts are on the recent Wish trailer.
Thanks for putting the Disney situation in a intelligent way hope Disney bounces back I love them
There have been only 3 things Disney has made in recent years that I genuinely loved❤. First was Pixar’s Soul. Then Encanto(really helped comfort when news between Russia and Ukraine 🇺🇦 broke out last year) and most recently The Owl House. Btw I’m glad you’re liking the show so far. That’s all I have to say
I agree. All three of those were amazing. I think one reason it went well was because most of those were made by independent creators who Disney happened to hire. But in the end they still choose to shoot themselves in the foot by disrespecting their creators and trying to please to many crowds instead of focusing on a well written story.
Outside of Soul and Andor everything else has been mid or straight up trash. (Encanto was ok tho)
Especially with garbage like Owl House which pushes 🏳️🌈 propaganda and themes that go against Disney core values, she hulk being anti men propaganda, and pinnochio the ruining everything about the original.
@@George_Fl0yd like Doug said, you can add LGBT/race/gender whatever in your story. Just write them well. And the owl house wrote them well because the characters in that show actually felt like real people unlike all the other “woke” stuff Hollywood has been putting out.
@@alibrennan5977 Thank you for not being offended at my opinion, even tho I disagree with your take on TOH I respect your opinion.
@@George_Fl0yd and at least it’s still better then the Disney live action remakes anyway
I think what would help making the live action-adaptions better would be if they took much more inspiration from the musical version of the story instead of the animated movie. Because the musical theatre versions has already given a blueprint on how to adapt the story for the stage and to me it just would make so much sense to look to them for inspiration and then make their own movie-version of the stage adaption instead of making a new version of the animated movie, just with it being live action instead. It would still sell on nostalgia bases, but on the same time have slight differences that would make it a different experience. I mean what I would love the most is just many, many proshots of their stage musicals, but if it has to be remakes, I don't get why they can't use more inspiration from the stage versions, like look to how Lion King on stage really brought the story to life in a new way or how Hunchback of Notre Dame really tells the story quite wonderful in that bootleg version I ended up watching on UA-cam a few years ago and which made the story more adult, and yet with all the most wellknown tunes and such.
I really want to hope for another return of Disney, but as far i see it, it's not gonna happen soon. Nowadays problem of Disney (not only Disney) is coming from the totalitaristic control of management about the creative processes. Everything, even the smallest details of ALL characters like what skin colour, race, faith, sexual orientation is decided by the management based on some social statistics. They decide everything and then just order creative team to make a film about that characters without any care for the creative side of the project. I literally see this conversations in the high cabinets: We need some fantasy film! - It will be expensive. - Than let's make an adaptation of some famous series to minimize the risk. - Ok. What is the most popular series? - LOTR, GoT, Witcher... - We cannot buy LOTR and GOT, so let's try Witcher. - Maybe we try another series? There is no diversity among the characters in this. There can be some critics from activists. - Is there any series among top 10 most popular fantasy series with diversity? Top 100? -...- I see, then we should take Witcher and add some diversity! Inform scriptwriters! - But this series is based on Slavic medieval! How can we add many black and asian people if there was no black and asian people in medieval Europe? - Who cares? It's fantasy after all! - But there was description of the characters in the books. Fans will be furious if we go against the description! - Who cares about the fans?! We are aiming for the mass viewers! F*, just do as i said, it's my job to make a decisions here, not yours! -😢Fine... There is no such thing as creative vision of the director anymore, if this vision is not about adding some diversity in the film😓
I bet a lot of people are jealous of Animat going to Disneyland XD
who?
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@@Nasser851000 love his videos, was he there when the dragon incident occurred? 😂
@@Nasser851000 Ok, but what does it have to do with this?
I don’t care. Disneyland’s been having its issues as well. I’d rather go to Universal instead. I don’t care about some random content creator visiting Disneyland.
More of the same isn't bad in moderation. I love it when I get to eat my favourite dish and would be sad if I couldn't anymore. But if I eat it all the time it becomes less special. The more you're exposed to something the more apparent the flaws become. So my advice for still loving Disney movies is: Watch some (or a lot of) movies made by other people in between your Disney fixes.
Honestly Disney deserves being knocked down a few pegs. Especially with how they’ve handled the mcu lately.
Before you could get by without seeing any of their shows, now if you have to spend 10 hours per series just so you’re not confused why Scarlet witch is evil. No one had to watch Agent of Shields because they literally just explain in the beginning of Ultron why they’re there.
Hell. Unless you watch Book of Boba Fett you’d be confused why Grogu was back with Din.
Disney’s major problem is having the main character be the in the backseat of their own show/movie and then blame you for not liking the fact you were tricked. It deserves to crash and burn.
What do you think of the wish trailer? that was giving me hope it looks good and interesting. I’ve been missing old Disney and the wish film looks like we might get something similar to a renaissance film. Their recent films I have meh feelings toward but their recent shows have been good to great
Disney pumping out more sequels and remakes because of financial troubles is like a restaurant serving frozen food because it’s struggling. It’s just not the way to go
Speaking of the live action remix, true story, I recently saw a adaptation of the Broadway, beauty and the beast by Disney done by a College close to where I live, and it was amazing one of the most amazing things in that show was Belles yellow dress it looked like it could’ve been an X park dress that’s how accurate it was. It was so beautiful And all I could think about watching like the scenes with this awesome yellow dress is Emma Watson eat your heart out
I think the main issue at the end of the day is honestly the audiences expectations
And it’s been like this for a while
The familiar stuff that people hate is the stuff that makes money
Then they complain that there’s nothing original coming from Disney
But when Disney done shortly, something original, they don’t go and watch it at all. They just ignore it act like it doesn’t exist.
People talk about how bad strange world did last year because no one knew about it
If you go back a couple other years and look at onward, another fantasy movie it didn’t make a profit either
But back, then you didn’t see people complaining or laughing at the box office either
Over the past few years, peoples perspectives, have shifted on what they comment on or not
Very seldom is an original idea from Disney become successful or talked about
People don’t want original things they just say they do so then they can complain about something not being original if they wanted original things they would watch them
And that’s not just for Disney. That’s Hollywood as a whole
These big Hollywood Studios produce so much original contents all the time that it’s ungodly
And none of it gets talked about very seldomly. Does something stick to the wall and everyone notice
, they just choose to ignore all of the original stuff. It is just a choice, play mate, whether it’s intentionally or subconsciously.
And I wholeheartedly believe if they weren’t also releasing franchise films along side of their original stuff people would act like they don’t release anything at all.
If Disney just randomly came out with another hand drawn animated movie, I think they would be surprised with what it would do for their audiences. Especially if it was a musical.
For awhile, probably since after Coco, I was feeling underwhelmed by Disney’s animated films. But Encanto was fantastic and Wish looks very promising.
I completely agree with this video. I think that Wish is going to be a turning point, just like Little Mermaid was in the 90s, and we’ll get a new renaissance.
The Little Mermaid was written as a love letter by Hans Christian Anderson to Edvard Collin. Anderson, upon hearing of Collin's engagement to a young woman, proclaimed his love to him. He told him, "I long for you as though you were a beautiful Calabrian girl." Edvard turned Anderson down, disgusted.
Anderson then wrote The Little Mermaid as to symbolize his inability to have Collin just as a mermaid cannot be with a human. He sent it to Collin in 1936 and it goes down in history as one of the most profound love letters ever written.
Disney has dried up the MCU well now, It’s animation is failing to work at the box office and it’s remakes are dividing people way more than exciting them.
It maybe a rough patch for them rn, but it’s one they brought upon themselves and unless they are willing to change and start realising their current methods are going to sink them faster than an iceberg, there’s a solid chance of them being put on the chopping block and sold to someone else.
This is how downfall of a studio begins with a bunch of craptastic sub par movies back to back and a dwindling number of viewers interested and choosing alternative brands instead which we don’t have a lack of these days.
The sea creatures in the Little Mermaid look low-key terrifying! Stop making them look super realistic, it doesn't work! Have you learned nothing from The Lion King?!
Remember when Disney didn't like the idea of sequels? They thought it would ruin the brand and the original films. They were right.
They got to the point where they're too big to fail and now they think they don't need to try anymore. People need to understand Disney isn't ruled by artists like Walt nowadays, they are ruled by Executives who are more concerned with getting a return of their investments than with making any real work of art. Modern Disney is the antithesis of 'We don't make movies to make money. We make money to make more movies.'
I think people are waking up now because we have good examples of financially sucessful movies that did push the envelope of what animation can do, Spiderverse and Puss in Boots 2 have become essential examples but just today I watched the UA-cam animation Lackadaisy and that hand drawn style gave such nostalgia for how things used to be, now compare that with Disney's trailer for their upcoming movie Wish which does seem like a step in the direction with a differetn artstyle and seemingly having a honest to god villain but still for such a powerhouse of a company it still feels too safe, almost like it's afraid of taking such risks.
This fear they have is so ridiculous because they're the ones who awakened in us a love for creative animation and iredeemable villains, I hope Wish is a turning point for them and Little Mermaid is their last remake, if you're gonna remake movies why do it with your classics that people love so much? They have other options but they choose the classics to prey on our nostalgia...well, except with Moana, I don't know what's going on there.
Fun fact: the Mandolrian episode with Jack Black was a bit more goofy for a reason. Bad Batch season 2 ended on a depressing note and I think having it be a bit more goofy was better.
There's definitely some points U agree with. When Disney makes a point of their progressiveness, it can be really annoying. Take for example the movie Moana.
I loved that the main character was the daughter of the village chief, and as such, is expected to follow in his footsteps. I don't know how culturally accurate it is, but it was so refreshing not to have the whole "but you're a GIRL!" routine. Moana is the chief's child, so she is the next chief. That's all, that's it.
Their original idea was Moana having a dozen older brothers, but despite her being the better sailor, they refused to let her go on the quest for Te Fiti because, well, girl. So she went in secret. I feel that would've been SO much less powerful than the version they went with.
Another example is Luisa from Encanto. Sure, behind the scenes, the creators had to fight tooth and nail to give her the body type she has in the movie. However in the movie itself, there's no mention of it. Luisa is strong, so she has muscles. And she's still feminine in nature. It's just how she is and the movie makes no point of hitting you over the head with it.
I can’t remember who said it, but someone said with how good the two Sonic movies and Super Mario Bros movie were the 2020s might be the start for good video game adaptions; and if that’s the case Disney could hop on that. It was be amazing to see an animated/CGI film of Epic Movie (for those who played that game) and seeing a darker side to Disney. How Mickey’s ever growing fame hurt a lot of other characters like Oswald and even his friends like Horace the horse and Clarabelle the cow.
Great idea! I’d love for that to happen!🤩
"might be the start for good video game adaptions"
Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie came out in the 90s, what the hell are you talking about?
Don’t you mean “Epic Mickey”?
I would love it, but don't trust them at the same time to do it right
Disney already did the video game thing with Wreck It Ralph, and we saw how disastrous its sequel was. I'd rather not think about it.
Another thing with Disney, why are all the themes and messages the same?
The Lion King was about not running away from your past, Princess and the frog was about responsibility, Frozen about the love between sisters and not taking things at face value.
You got the journey, got to see the mistakes, got to see the growth, got to understand the conclusion.
Film after film it's the same journey, same theme, believe in your self, tradition is bad, anyone with two x chromosomes is always perfectly right! Villains are just weak, disgruntled and ashamed.
In a world full of narcissism, division and climate change, the so called "escapist", fairy tales of Disney are just large expositions of narcissism, division and climate change, and it's not really surprising people are getting tired of the hole thing.
I know I am.
I've always hated Disney because it's a huge amoral corporation with draconian copyright practices for example. The creative people there are great though and I mostly really enjoy the stuff they produce (not talking about the real-life remakes). If I could do away with the corporation altogether by snapping my fingers I would probably not hesitate for a second but another similar corporate overlord eentity would probably just eventually take it's place and role anyway.
Honestly, as a black woman, it’s not that they made The Little Mermaid black, it’s the fact that everyone knows that in this day and age if you were to make an ethnic character white there would be RIOTS.
It’s the double standard people, including me, are sick of. We want our own stories. The fact that Hollywood thinks it’s good enough just making “X” character black is honestly insulting, not to mention pandering.
I get where you’re coming from though, I hope you can do the same
There is also the hypocrisy of the companies in their pandering - they REFUSE to adapt any African stories, myths, fables or folk tales in any form whatsoever. They'll gender and race swap the HELL out of European content, but there will NEVER be African content. Anything they DO cover, is usually overexaggerated or distorted. I'd LOVE to see some African mythology movies (because I'm a mythology lover, and I live in an African country), but the Western movie industry won't make it, and the African movie industry doesn't have the infrastructure to make epics.
The moment 2020 came, it all went downhill.
One area of Disney that should be talked about more are there Disney animated shows; particularly 4 of them.
I know that Gravity Falls, Amphibia and The Owl House are "The Big Three" when it comes to plot-based stories, but DuckTales (2017) is a show that no one talks about anymore. Gravity Falls is the one that started it all and The Owl House had the best twists in the story and lore, but DuckTales (2017) still had those feel-good adventure episodes. I feel like I was more invested in The Owl House when it was more plot-driven and less slice-of-life and DuckTales (2017) when it was the opposite.
In my most likely unpopular opinion, Amphibia was the most consistently enjoyable for me as it had both enjoyable slice-of-life and plot-driven episodes. It's just a shame that Disney is no longer making plot-driven shows like these anymore.
Ducktales (2017) is perhaps the best remake Disney has done.
They are hurt and bleeding. But they've been there before. I have hope for Elemental and Wish. They look kinds cool... but then there's all these remakes and sequels... Inside Out 2 could be fun, but after Frozen 2... I'm not certain.
They're losing a lot of money to other studios that Disney thought were dead. And if they don't change things soon, they're gonna lose that audience
My optimism for ‘Inside Out 2’ has dipped simply because most Pixar sequels tend to be underwhelming.
I like Toy Story 4, even though I feel the story mostly finished with 3. It's like the epilogue at the back of an epic novel, where everything was already wrapped up but you just check in with the characters in a 'where are they now' type of way.
I am not sure about that? But I am holding out for the Goosebumps reboot series and Elemental. ❤🤞🤞
Environmentalism , race and gender equality etc are good messages that should be discussed. When people "make the thing I want a law so people are forces to do it" or "How dare you hate my thing you must be a racist" or when they do some thing to a white person they would NEVER do to a colored person or when they say "Agree with me or else" or when they say "White people are horrible and you should feel horrible because your white" or "Colloredo people can do this and whites can't" or when they say " Is the planer saved yet? Is the planer saved yet? Is the planer saved yet? Is the planer saved yet?" that's when Woke goes too far.
If the message was "This is what matters to me I want it to matter to you too but if you don't change ands see things my way Im cool with that" people would tolerate woke.
No one hates Green energy, colored people , women or gay people just people who are against woke stuff are burned out from a constant bombardment , the double standard, the hypocrisy, the push to gain more privileges when you are already equal. the constant feeling of the old way of life being erased and replaced. The fact that woke people want to save lives and tolerate and protect but they have this off camera behind your back list of things they want killed and destroyed.
Oddly when this goes down on TMNT or Magnum PI or the Nutty Professor Dr. Doolittle no one points it out, no one cares but when it happens to Disney or Cartoon Network, Nick, DC and Marvel, Nintendo people freak out. and when you have the 1st strike against you every other flaw adds up.
Disney is in a weird spot. Too Woke for conservatives not woke enough for Liberals.
even Capitalism is "A big evil" until its YOUR money and YOUR freedoms effected. You want money for your self but you never want others to have it. Artists deserve money for there hard work until an artist hits your UA-cam video with a copywrite strike
When people want things and can't get things they yell
but if they want to be listened to, they need to learn to ask "What would I have to give you to get what I want?" or "Why don't you want what I want"
and in times of emergency we need to stop playing "Whatever you want Im against it" and start saying "This is important I'll let you have your way"