Hey I just found in a interview that the orginal DJ at the orginal Limelight was a Puerto Rican by David Rodriguez who was a mentor to the Legandary DJ Nicky Siano
John Brown was maybe the first, for the young kids in The Bronx. But NOWHERE near the first. There was a Downtown Disco scene. The NYC juice bars. The Brooklyn Disco scene. The downtown gay Disco scene. John Brown was never the first. Just the first Herc saw.
Correcto 1000% and no doubt about it, because first all fba didn't create or invent DJing just like they didn't create or invent Graffiti, Breaking and MCing and that is 1,000000 facts
@randee4550 Just search Vaudeville, and you will see started rapping in the 1800s Vaudeville is the birth of everything when it comes to those art before Vaudeville there was American folk music, which has anything to do with fba creating it. anyway Vaudeville is actually the beginning of USA entertainment culture, the musical, rhyming, acro dance culture basically what started it all in USA
Stop taking what u learned from Scoreboardkeepers and bringing it to your platform to act like u know what u talking about. Show us the culture from the Puerto Rican community that yall intergrated into black culture to create hip hop. Stop confusing your audience, doing what u see someone else doing in no way proves creation. James Brown is black culture his music is black culture his dance is black culture show me something from your culture that was infused with our culture. U can’t.
@@Forlang-f5l what I learned from scoreboard keepers. lol 😂 all those channels are channels because of me. Hip hop historian, truth savior, akiem, the Boostedo, etc.
@ all that and u never responded to what I said. 50/50 means a cultural exchange, u take a Spanish chicken recipe and I take a FBA chicken recipe and we combine the recipes to create a new dish, that is a 50/50 creation. SHOW ME THE PUERTO RICAN CULTURE THAT WAS MERGED WITH OUR CULTURE TO CREATE HIP HOP!!!!!
I’m a DJ from the lower Eastside of Manhattan and I started in 1974 and got my first club job in 1979 at a place called hellfire my experience was that the black or African-American DJs that were playing at the time going back to the early 70s and my sister used to take me to a party that was promoted by the Dow twins all the time when I was a kid way before 1974 and they had what was called the MC master of ceremonies he would be talking hyping up the crowd and the DJ was a separate person who would be kind of running the brakes extending the brakes so the MC was not talking over vocals and that’s how I basically saw it I was in Metro record in the 70s and then by the early 80s I was in for the record and so I worked at the loft doing decorations with Nicky Siano so I know about the loft and the paradise garage and all that comes with that era and that’s what I saw the African-American DJs always had that MC and it was a different vibe the Latino DJs of course they were playing southside and we all remember the clubs you know that everybody was going to but to me it was more of a black thing for the DJ to be cutting up breaks while the MC was talking over it and that’s how the idea of rapping started because he was being sort of flamboyant with his words and his appearance and the DJ was basically just playing the music and I did not see that on the Latin side so that’s my experience and that’s my two cents of this conversation but great video and great information.
Yo Dr Colon and Family Did you know That DJ Alfie Davison recorded a seminal single titled Love is a Serious Business in 1979 before that in 1977 he recorded a orginal Imperials song whos gonna love me
Yo know nothing about your own culture cause if you did you would know that Puerto Ricans and FBA whatever that is let's just say Afro-American African Americans are one
and what you call fba culture started with Vaudeville and Vaudeville is not fba or USA culture its actually French culture, The Name Vaudeville itself is French!
@@johnbrown1168 well Mr brown thank you for responding to me for the second time. I can tell you this, you were not playing break beats for bboys. No way. You need to be honest. That all I’m saying.
@@TrapSpplyNyc I respect John brown. I am simply questioning if he played break beats for breakdancers in 1971. That all. There was no breakdancing in 1971. Period. Was he a dj yes I’m not denying that.
@@TrapSpplyNyc why are you making threats my friend. There is no need for that. I am a man of God and I am not doing this for any other reason than to get history right. God bless you.
FBAs keep diggin thru the crates...The notes are at your finger tips all you have to do is play them: ua-cam.com/users/shorts4Rki_EQNch4?si=JRe--TQBD6q8Hmwc
@bigwill8773 Hypothetically speaking. Even if you wanted to use this video.... Sammy Davis Jr.'s mom was Latina, so.... 🤷🏽♂️ Would that make him a Latino co creator to breaking?
@@antfloshop836Sammy Davis Jr isn't a part of Hip-Hop, or a B-Boy. Y'all keep trying to leech outsider influence, into BRONX CULTURE. Unless they were part of the same, they're outsiders
@randee4550 I'm with you, Randee. I think you misunderstood what I said. Lol. I was asking the other dude if he wanted to use that video as proof, then it would backfire because Sammy's mom is Latina. But yes, I know Sammy is not hip hop. Hip hop is Bronx culture. I was addressing the video @bigwill8773 put in that link.
@antfloshop836 Yeah. Because I'm waiting to hear about B-Boy CREWS, on the slave ships battling, while the Spanish cut up breaks, aboard La Niña, La Pinta, and La Santa María
Yo Illone bro I'm waiting I challenged what up let's do it live and direct with a moderator the Topic is are Puerto Rocks aka Nuyricans Puerto Ricans Co Creators of Hiphop
Okay so other DJs played music...AND? See, this is the blatant intellectual dishonesty and disrespect of African American culture Truth Savior and others speak of. To diminish things we inspired down to a "nothing burger" or grandfather in an alternate reality that people who were there can't confirm. For example the mistranslation of Batch's account of TT-Rock to a mere trip and fall though he and people like BigBoom, a Rican b-boy of original TBB who also witnessed TT-ROCK, never said that. It's like just nevermind Frank Rojas saying the dance came from "the brothas down the block", and the "we the Puerto Ricans like to do what the blacks did". That somehow just goes "over the head". Then you and others persist to label Rock dance as strictly a Puerto Rican thang from inception. Like with the Melbourne shuffle. Sure the white girls of the 1990-present are dope in Europe doing this, but anybody who knows will tell you it's basically C-walking (Cripwalking) from a African American street gang, but sped up. It was created by original member SugarBear in like 1972 We have footage in the 80s of them doing this in LA California
fba culture musical culture started after Vaudeville, which came to USA with the French when they used to own New Orleans, Vaudeville is the Beginning of USA entertainment and art forms like Poetry, Rhyming on a beat, the y even started the what we call today rapping, also Vaudeville created the Acro Dance movement which is where the roots of Breaking in USA start from, Vaudeville is the Birth of USA Musical and art forms entertainment.
@SLPGroundSoundMusic I rest my case on the blatant downplaying and disrespect of original African American creativity and alternate histories grandfathered into the story. Blacks performed in Congo Square from the 1700s through after slavery. People came there to watch what we did. Vaudeville for African Americans was 1880-1930s. Congo Square Beginning in the late 1740s, the site originated as a social and cultural meeting ground for the city's enslaved African American population. In 1817, legislation was passed which permitted enslaved African Americans to meet for dancing on Sundays in Congo Square.. They used the Djembe drum (African predecessor to congas. Ggle image 1818 drawing of Congo Square drum. There was a drum ban for slaves at some point after the 1739 uprising). Now check the timeline. Congas and bongos were invented by Afro Cubans in the latter 1800s. Black Americans were doing it when they hit the shores of America with Djembe. Just altering the facts and moving the goalposts around on the timeline to strip African Americans of our unique cultural creations. This is blatant disrespect False things said to to "deAfricanAmerican -ize" the music, dance and culture TT-ROCK tripping and falling in 75 as the first floor move in breaking (it was a deliberate routine) ZuluKings not doing floor moves and minor spins in 75 (Willie Will, a Puerto Rican and founding member of Rockwell Association- concurrent with TBB, says he seen these foundational floor moves with names come from ZuluKings) DJ Mario being Boricua ( family says no) Crazy Legs saying Grand Mixer DXT is part Puerto Rican (we ain't heard him mention that yet and he has chimed in on the hip-hop origin story) Herc playing Caribbean music (Herc said he didn't) Bongo Band wasn't playing funk style with bongos but Latin Rock Dance being absolutely Puerto Rican ( Rojas distinguishses what the brothas did down the block from what he did culturally as a Puerto Rican) Flyting having connections to ghetto black youth doing the dozens Funk influenced by Latin percussionist
@AfAm-w4r New Orleans, founded by France in 1718 on the mouth of the Mississippi, is usually remembered as the center of French influence in the United States. However, it owes just as much, if not more, to the period of Spanish rule, which began in 1762 with its transfer to Spain by the French and ended in 1803. When did New Orleans belong to Spain? New Orleans belonged to Spain from 1762 to 1803. It was transferred to Spain by the French in 1762 and remained under Spanish rule until 1803 when it was sold to the United States in the Louisiana Purchase
1960s African American Culture was doo-wop music. The Puerto Ricans were Rock Dancing and Rappin'. It was a Puerto Rican called Luciano who inspired Coke La-Rock.
Seeing the guy short circuit and crash is one of the main reasons I stopped watching television around 2010-ish when i was in college. 😁😁😁😁😁🫠🫠🙃🙃😘😘😝🤪🤪😜😛😝🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮😳😳😳💩💩🤡☠️☠️☠️👹👺
Hey I just found in a interview that the orginal DJ at the orginal Limelight was a Puerto Rican by David Rodriguez who was a mentor to the Legandary DJ Nicky Siano
DJ John brown Plaza Tunnel, the untold story:
ua-cam.com/video/LEh7yCKGSxQ/v-deo.htmlsi=H-pv0JxWbYzTkYf3
John Brown was maybe the first, for the young kids in The Bronx. But NOWHERE near the first. There was a Downtown Disco scene. The NYC juice bars. The Brooklyn Disco scene. The downtown gay Disco scene.
John Brown was never the first. Just the first Herc saw.
Correcto 1000% and no doubt about it, because first all fba didn't create or invent DJing just like they didn't create or invent Graffiti, Breaking and MCing and that is 1,000000 facts
@SLPGroundSoundMusic And most suck at it anyway. It's why they created Wack Black Rap, and moved away from MC'ing
@randee4550 Just search Vaudeville, and you will see started rapping in the 1800s Vaudeville is the birth of everything when it comes to those art before Vaudeville there was American folk music, which has anything to do with fba creating it. anyway Vaudeville is actually the beginning of USA entertainment culture, the musical, rhyming, acro dance culture basically what started it all in USA
@@randee4550Is that why latin hip-hop was created?
@kendeshajoyner9564 What's Latin Hip-Hop?
Puerto Ricans created Breakin' in the 1960s.
Excellent information. Thank you. Happy birthday.
Happy birthday celebration
HBD.. You should interview Jelly Bean Benitez.
Stop taking what u learned from Scoreboardkeepers and bringing it to your platform to act like u know what u talking about. Show us the culture from the Puerto Rican community that yall intergrated into black culture to create hip hop. Stop confusing your audience, doing what u see someone else doing in no way proves creation. James Brown is black culture his music is black culture his dance is black culture show me something from your culture that was infused with our culture. U can’t.
@@Forlang-f5l thanks for watching.
@@Forlang-f5l what I learned from scoreboard keepers. lol 😂 all those channels are channels because of me. Hip hop historian, truth savior, akiem, the Boostedo, etc.
@ all that and u never responded to what I said. 50/50 means a cultural exchange, u take a Spanish chicken recipe and I take a FBA chicken recipe and we combine the recipes to create a new dish, that is a 50/50 creation. SHOW ME THE PUERTO RICAN CULTURE THAT WAS MERGED WITH OUR CULTURE TO CREATE HIP HOP!!!!!
@@Forlang-f5l go watch my documentary then we can talk
@@Forlang-f5lThe only cultural exchange they have is "We Were There"
It was a big ht in the Uk Northen Soul Scene dope tune
I’m a DJ from the lower Eastside of Manhattan and I started in 1974 and got my first club job in 1979 at a place called hellfire my experience was that the black or African-American DJs that were playing at the time going back to the early 70s and my sister used to take me to a party that was promoted by the Dow twins all the time when I was a kid way before 1974 and they had what was called the MC master of ceremonies he would be talking hyping up the crowd and the DJ was a separate person who would be kind of running the brakes extending the brakes so the MC was not talking over vocals and that’s how I basically saw it I was in Metro record in the 70s and then by the early 80s I was in for the record and so I worked at the loft doing decorations with Nicky Siano so I know about the loft and the paradise garage and all that comes with that era and that’s what I saw the African-American DJs always had that MC and it was a different vibe the Latino DJs of course they were playing southside and we all remember the clubs you know that everybody was going to but to me it was more of a black thing for the DJ to be cutting up breaks while the MC was talking over it and that’s how the idea of rapping started because he was being sort of flamboyant with his words and his appearance and the DJ was basically just playing the music and I did not see that on the Latin side so that’s my experience and that’s my two cents of this conversation but great video and great information.
Happy Birth day Colón 🎉
Dr Colon is there a possibility that you could do a small video on Alfie Davison i read about him he seems like a very important DJ
That was named David Rodriguez
Yo Dr Colon and Family Did you know That DJ Alfie Davison recorded a seminal single titled Love is a Serious Business in 1979 before that in 1977 he recorded a orginal Imperials song whos gonna love me
BRILLIANT THANKS DR COLON HAPPY BIRTHDAY 💯🥰😘
Yo know nothing about your own culture cause if you did you would know that Puerto Ricans and FBA whatever that is let's just say Afro-American African Americans are one
Are You African American?
and what you call fba culture started with Vaudeville and Vaudeville is not fba or USA culture its actually French culture, The Name Vaudeville itself is French!
It's not your culture. Everybody brought something to the table. Who ever is saying Hip Hop was created by a single culture is hard-headed.
I am dj.john Brown soon I'll talk, if you wasn't there. I was there
@@johnbrown1168 well Mr brown thank you for responding to me for the second time. I can tell you this, you were not playing break beats for bboys. No way. You need to be honest. That all I’m saying.
@@DrDerrickColonyou always disrespecting our elders , I’m telling you we not gone keep going this. You gone make us see about all this disrespect.
@@johnbrown1168 so my other question is did you do this at the puzzle or the tunnel?
@@TrapSpplyNyc I respect John brown. I am simply questioning if he played break beats for breakdancers in 1971. That all. There was no breakdancing in 1971. Period. Was he a dj yes I’m not denying that.
@@TrapSpplyNyc why are you making threats my friend. There is no need for that. I am a man of God and I am not doing this for any other reason than to get history right. God bless you.
Illone was saying alot of things that were wrong you want to debate the kid Shabbaz
O.o
FBAs keep diggin thru the crates...The notes are at your finger tips all you have to do is play them: ua-cam.com/users/shorts4Rki_EQNch4?si=JRe--TQBD6q8Hmwc
Y'all digging yourselves. That shit ain't no BRONX CULTURE or Hip-Hop.
@bigwill8773 Hypothetically speaking. Even if you wanted to use this video.... Sammy Davis Jr.'s mom was Latina, so.... 🤷🏽♂️ Would that make him a Latino co creator to breaking?
@@antfloshop836Sammy Davis Jr isn't a part of Hip-Hop, or a B-Boy. Y'all keep trying to leech outsider influence, into BRONX CULTURE.
Unless they were part of the same, they're outsiders
@randee4550 I'm with you, Randee. I think you misunderstood what I said. Lol. I was asking the other dude if he wanted to use that video as proof, then it would backfire because Sammy's mom is Latina. But yes, I know Sammy is not hip hop. Hip hop is Bronx culture. I was addressing the video @bigwill8773 put in that link.
@antfloshop836 Yeah. Because I'm waiting to hear about B-Boy CREWS, on the slave ships battling, while the Spanish cut up breaks, aboard La Niña, La Pinta, and La Santa María
Yo Illone bro I'm waiting I challenged what up let's do it live and direct with a moderator the
Topic is are Puerto Rocks aka Nuyricans Puerto Ricans Co Creators of Hiphop
READ A BOOK BRO CAUSE YOU NEED TO Read and then youw8ll be Enlighten
Okay so other DJs played music...AND?
See, this is the blatant intellectual dishonesty and disrespect of African American culture Truth Savior and others speak of. To diminish things we inspired down to a "nothing burger" or grandfather in an alternate reality that people who were there can't confirm. For example the mistranslation of Batch's account of TT-Rock to a mere trip and fall though he and people like BigBoom, a Rican b-boy of original TBB who also witnessed TT-ROCK, never said that.
It's like just nevermind Frank Rojas saying the dance came from "the brothas down the block", and the "we the Puerto Ricans like to do what the blacks did". That somehow just goes "over the head". Then you and others persist to label Rock dance as strictly a Puerto Rican thang from inception.
Like with the Melbourne shuffle. Sure the white girls of the 1990-present are dope in Europe doing this, but anybody who knows will tell you it's basically C-walking (Cripwalking) from a African American street gang, but sped up. It was created by original member SugarBear in like 1972
We have footage in the 80s of them doing this in LA California
fba culture musical culture started after Vaudeville, which came to USA with the French when they used to own New Orleans, Vaudeville is the Beginning of USA entertainment and art forms like Poetry, Rhyming on a beat, the y even started the what we call today rapping, also Vaudeville created the Acro Dance movement which is where the roots of Breaking in USA start from, Vaudeville is the Birth of USA Musical and art forms entertainment.
@SLPGroundSoundMusic
I rest my case on the blatant downplaying and disrespect of original African American creativity and alternate histories grandfathered into the story.
Blacks performed in Congo Square from the 1700s through after slavery. People came there to watch what we did. Vaudeville for African Americans was 1880-1930s.
Congo Square
Beginning in the late 1740s, the site originated as a social and cultural meeting ground for the city's enslaved African American population. In 1817, legislation was passed which permitted enslaved African Americans to meet for dancing on Sundays in Congo Square..
They used the Djembe drum (African predecessor to congas. Ggle image 1818 drawing of Congo Square drum. There was a drum ban for slaves at some point after the 1739 uprising).
Now check the timeline.
Congas and bongos were invented by Afro Cubans in the latter 1800s.
Black Americans were doing it when they hit the shores of America with Djembe.
Just altering the facts and moving the goalposts around on the timeline to strip African Americans of our unique cultural creations. This is blatant disrespect
False things said to to "deAfricanAmerican -ize" the music, dance and culture
TT-ROCK tripping and falling in 75 as the first floor move in breaking (it was a deliberate routine)
ZuluKings not doing floor moves and minor spins in 75
(Willie Will, a Puerto Rican and founding member of Rockwell Association- concurrent with TBB, says he seen these foundational floor moves with names come from ZuluKings)
DJ Mario being Boricua ( family says no)
Crazy Legs saying Grand Mixer DXT is part Puerto Rican (we ain't heard him mention that yet and he has chimed in on the hip-hop origin story)
Herc playing Caribbean music (Herc said he didn't)
Bongo Band wasn't playing funk style with bongos but Latin
Rock Dance being absolutely Puerto Rican ( Rojas distinguishses what the brothas did down the block from what he did culturally as a Puerto Rican)
Flyting having connections to ghetto black youth doing the dozens
Funk influenced by Latin percussionist
@AfAm-w4r
New Orleans, founded by France in 1718 on the mouth of the Mississippi, is usually remembered as the center of French influence in the United States. However, it owes just as much, if not more, to the period of Spanish rule, which began in 1762 with its transfer to Spain by the French and ended in 1803.
When did New Orleans belong to Spain?
New Orleans belonged to Spain from 1762 to 1803. It was transferred to Spain by the French in 1762 and remained under Spanish rule until 1803 when it was sold to the United States in the Louisiana Purchase
Truth Savior is a clown, a big joke.
1960s African American Culture was doo-wop music. The Puerto Ricans were Rock Dancing and Rappin'. It was a Puerto Rican called Luciano who inspired Coke La-Rock.
Seeing the guy short circuit and crash is one of the main reasons I stopped watching television around 2010-ish when i was in college. 😁😁😁😁😁🫠🫠🙃🙃😘😘😝🤪🤪😜😛😝🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮😳😳😳💩💩🤡☠️☠️☠️👹👺