ICON of VEGAN diet dead at 77 years old : John McDougall, M.D.
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he died peacefully in his sleep. if you're gonna go, there's no better way (imo). RIP dr M.
AGREED...he did not suffer (that we know)......AND he helped SO many to eat their veggies! I've been that way since 2012.... at 66, I love having great energy and good health!
@@valerietomsic8454 he was very frail the last ten years.
The good doctor could have died of anything. He wasn’t looking well after his house burned down in California. RIP great doctor 🙏❤️🙏this generous doctor won’t be forgotten in my opinion😊🌹😊
Well said
Yes, nice tribute.
Excuses. Everybody knows that diet was awful. His diet killed him.
@@KenWang1 No, it bought him time.
My dad died in his sleep at the exact same age and he was a big meat eater his whole life. Sometimes people just die. It can be hard to accept that we don’t have control.
My dad died at 77 in his sleep too and he ate anything that was put in front of him but he did have cancer too.
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Ya, I keep seeing commenters talk about how their grand parents eat mostly meat and live to 100, yet mine both had that type of diet and they died around the same time as McDougal. Fact is the average life expectancy is 77 years, so I'm not sure why people are surprised that a 77 year-old dude died.
"To live in hearts we leave behind is not to die." -Thomas Campbell
When you have a stroke at age 18 (Dr. McDougall) and live 59 more years, that's good.
Nah
Tomorrow is never a certainty for any of us
Well if you only eat rice, tomorrow is very uncertain
He had a stroke aged 18 and lived 60 more years exceeding his life expectancy
That's right. He lived a healthy life until he died. He did look a bit frail in recent years.
@@dparks3784he did, but sharp as a tack.
Yes he did. He knew the horrible diet he grew up with and the stroke at 18 would limit his life expectancy. He made the best of every day though and helped so many people.
No association...he recovered 100% from his stroke at 18. Get a clue. Watch some of his early videos.
Until he got the jabs.
Dr. McDougall won't be forgotten. He has followers who have their own channels with big followings. He saved so many lives, those families won't forget him. He said he was the luckiest doctor in the world because his patients got better. RIP Dr. McDougall.
Saved any lives is debatable in my opinion. I'd say the oposite and place him in a category with Ancel Keys.
@@Stan_in_Shelton_WA What evidence do you have of that? You are assuming. Many people have said he has saved their life. I've listened to countless interviews of people saying how his way of eating saved their lives and helped them get rid of disease and medication. How dare you make your assumptions.
@@bonniespruin6369 HaHa so funny that you say where is my evidence and you use no evidence in your opposition of my statement of opinion. LOL your opinion against mine and you say "how dare you" HaHA!
I think he did save a lot of lives with his diet because his diet was WAY WAY better than what his patients were eating previously. In my opinion the basis of it is this... If you're overeating by several thousands of calories a day and you simply eliminate fat, it's very difficult to then match your calorie input without getting bored or full. Simply put, they were eating less. Probably a lot less. And this works only if you are overeating, overweight, and unhealthy as his patients were. If you're a fit person of normal weight, you aren't gaining much by eating high carb, low protein, low fat. In fact you might be worse off due to the low protein content of the diet he claimed was optimal (30g/day) if you have an optimal amount of muscle mass (which I don't think he did).
@@Stan_in_Shelton_WAAncel Keys was a giant. If you have critical thinking skills u would see it.
McDougal was legit. Living to 77 was pretty miraculous really considering he had a massive stroke aged 18. This guy transformed the health of countless people.
Show me the proof and the document from the 1965 hospital report that he had a stroke and then I will believe a fabricated stroke story that less than 1 in 10,000 teens get a stroke.
Who the hell gets a stroke at 18?? Obviously, this was long before the experimental jab.
Nah
@@KenWang1 Excellent analysis. Well done you!!!
He lived a long life, considering all the health issues he had when he was young.
It's ridiculous it's even a discussion. 77 is not even a young age to die at. How many meat eaters die in their 50's and 60's?? A ton of them!! And we don't even know his cause of death, it could be genetic and nothing to do with diet.
Problems, not "issues."
My take on all this grasping for longevity....it's not about your number of years but the quality of those years and the health of those years. Eat whatever diet helps or reverses or puts into remission any health issues you have and what makes you feel your best. It ain't one size fits all but what size fits you
Dying younger than the average lifespan and weak/sarcopenicalong the way is no way to live well.
@tomtraynor5384 I agree. Find a diet that makes you stronger and not frail in so much as you can. Some health issues are just simply out of our control. We have to do the best we can. A low carb meat heavy diet works for me.
@@tomtraynor5384he had a stroke at 18. Up umil recently he was a wind surfer and athlete even tho he had a noticeable limp.
John had a stroke at 18 years old and the fact that he lived to be 77 is a testimony to the dedication of his lifestyle and way of eating. I beg to differ, I believe he will long be remembered and people will continue to follow his diet!
Show me the proof and the document from the 1965 hospital report and then I will believe a fabricated stroke story that less than 1 in 10,000 teens get a stroke.
Nah
Excellent video !!! Thank you for not slamming Dr mcdougall . He was a good man went through a lot with his house burning in CA..
Let’s wait and see how long and how well the carnivore folks live.
I thought Dr. Baker was very respectful in his comments about Dr. McDougall. Also, he has never claimed carnivores will live to 100. He simply promotes the fact that meat is a very nutrient dense food in the most absorbable form. He frankly admits that the long term consequences of a meat based diet are unknown. He makes a lot of sense to me.
I agree. Dr. Baker also promotes it because of how it reverses so many diseases and people get their life back. I think many people (like this nice man in the video) don't realize this. For me, it has been utterly helpful in my healing.
@@angieb4631 That's true. You can't argue with the number of testimonials from people the carnivore diet has helped.
@@christophercharles3169same with a plant based diet. I just find it hard to believe that fruits and vegetables are bad for you. I never chastise anyone over their diet. It’s so personal.
@@robz.3225 I'm the same. Everyone is free to eat what they want. That being said, I do believe fruits and vegetables are bad for you but I'll let everyone do their own research on that. Bottom line, any diet that cuts out the junk is better than the SAD.
Lettuce is literally more nutrient dense than beef. You people are ridiculous.
Whatever happened to the simple, well balanced diet of yesteryear? A 3 - 4 oz serving of protein, a starch such as potatoes/sweet potatoes/rice etc., 1 or 2 servings of vegetables and a small desert? And then take a walk after dinner around the block in your neighborhood. I guess the normal well balanced diet doesn’t sell ad space, but then I was brought up in the 1950’s before everything everywhere was hyped to make money. Love my life now, but I miss the simpler era. It was so easy to just live then.
Exactly!! Let's follow the nutrition advice of today... Look how well it's (not) working for everyone!!!
To reverse an existing pathology (heart disease, high blood pressure for example) a stricter regime is necessary.
That’s how i eat balanced and I’m the healthiest person i know
@@evec2022Thats the problem nobody is eating balanced anymore
@@KenWang1Amen!
Quality of life is way more important than living long
@@daysoftheboo false. I rather live long. This is why I eat meat
@@GarudaLegends no thanks I'd rather live a short life but I was strong fit independent feeling good the whole time, besides the physical deterioration of aging no longer looking like the person you used to look , but sure if people want to live a long time fine if you don't mind being weak fragile all depending on others can't take care of yourself trap in a scary old person's body
@@daysoftheboo OK, some ppl are like that. I love life too much. This is why I will eat meat to live long. Meat is the best food for both quality of life and longevity.
@@GarudaLegends I consider liking the taste of meat a talent
It's a talent I don't have and don't want, meat taste so repulsively disgusting to me there's nothing you can do to make it taste good it's still meat , it's not just the taste it's the horrible texture meat has
@@GarudaLegends HAAAA!
He died Saturday, not last night.
Life’s mystery…grandfather smoked an drank, passed at 99…
It sure is! My great grandpa smoked a pipe until 104!
I believe the chemical toxins compound more and more with each generation. My grandparents/great grandparents were the same too, but they grew up in a much less toxic world than we are in today. Things like glyphosate and other pesticides/herbicides, preservatives, etc. weren't an issue, and basically all food was by nature organic, homes lawns water and air were all cleaner... Also got way less 💉💉💉 than later generations too. 👀
Warren Buffett (currently 93yo) eats McDonald's for breakfast, drinks 5 Cokes a day, and devours cookies and ice cream. Add smokes and drinking to it, and you're on your way to live to 120!!!
. He drinks the blood of children in trauma and fear. You find that these oligarchs drink the blood of children so they can keep from aging.
Means nothing.
My grandma lived to be 100. She ate healthy, ate meat, organs and such. Slept well nightly.No smoking ,drank port. Spoke her mind! Had her mental health! Lived alone! No senior citizen, home.
My grandparents are still alive and they have already lived longer that that vegan, and they still eat meat.
@@koreybNothing wrong with any food as long as you don’t eat like King Kong. Moderation has always worked well.
Both of my grandmothers smoked from teens until 90 and the other 87. Meat heavy diets. Same with my mother, almost 80, and still smokes a pack a day. No Doctor, and doesn't even wear glasses.
Dr. McDougall had a stroke when he was 18 years old, and the mortality after having stroke at early age is pretty high according to a study that was done in Netherlands. His diet most likely helped him live longer.
@@mariyork Exactly. If he had a stroke at 18 and continued as usual he probably wouldn't have made it past 40. Even most people who eat a standard American diet don't get a stroke at 18. So people need to take that into consideration when assessing the fact that he lived to a very healthy 77 years old with no chronic health issues and was wind surfing up until the time he died.
He did not promote the " Vegan Diet" , he promoted a starch based diet and he was a very good doctor , my only issue was he was pro covid vaccine , He was in bad health after a fall a few years ago where he broke several bones; he also lost everything in the fires in California and had moved to Hawaii . He was very frail the last few times I saw him on Your tube but his mind was still sharp. I am sad for his family because people will attack his lives work now, he has helped so many people in his life .
yes he was a good doctor, but i have heard him many times say to get the animal products out and focus on starches.
Good point about the jab, I was thinking that as well especially with his very early stroke at age 18, which put him more at risk. Also it's very atypical to have a stroke at 18, maybe he had vascular abnormalities.
@timberdark I worried that he had taken the shot early on. Especially with stroke history. He gave me my health back. He was such a kind man. 🙏 rest in peace
@@greensorrel6860no it’s not a good point about the vaccine. First off he only advocated for the 1st vaccine He did not advocate for the variant one after the initial. He made a great video about vaccines 12 years ago. You should watch it. People shouldn’t speculate, Let’s wait until we learn his cause of death
He did go full vegan after he was educated on the environmental impact of animal agriculture and the effects on animals. He was a member of PCRM since its inception.
What faith? I got my BP from 140/90 to 105/70 in 18 months and off pills on WFPB diet. And that after 10 years on Paleo low carb diet.
Similar story here. WFPD is wonderful.
What is WFPD please?
@@mariannediop7753 Whole food plant based diet.
I am mostly a carnivore but I did appreciate McDougall’s passion. He made some sense with what he said and he was a very learned person with a lot of studies. He’s been in this game for a long time and he’s a legendary person in the field. The fact he died at 77 shouldn’t really be a issue because as many people on here have said he suffered a stroke at 18 years old and he wasn’t expected to survive actually. He made it to 77 I’m sure that stroke did damage. So who knows what he died from. He did a peer frail he wasn’t like that 20 years ago. But whatever it is rest in peace he did a lot of research he did a lot of good work for many people. Fact remains no one really knows the answers. I think the keto and carnivore are great diet for fixing problems which I did with me. I question whether it’s good long-term because it doesn’t fit in with our evolution ideals. I believe we ate meat thousands of years ago but it wasn’t easy to catch an animal it was far easier to eat vegetables and rice and corn etc. so that I agree with him on. But we are different animals today.
You made some good points, well said. Luke ypu said, there may even be other variables at play. Lots of people having strokes.
He was an outlier in that he had a massive stroke as a teenager .. he may have died a lot sooner than 77 with the SAD. But who knows with this N=1.
I wouldn't choose his lifestyle based on the low protein amount. As a 50+ woman, I would be in a world of hurt at that low percentage.
Each body is different so I go off my family history (no one dies under 100 and they're healthy till their last few weeks of life) and how my body responds to my food choices and exercise amounts..
He and his wife cooked and eat a turkey once a year. That way he can't say, "I'm a vegan." A lot of people thought he was a Seventh-day Adventist, but he wasn't.
I think he said he told people that. I don't think he actually ate the turkey.
The “elephant in the room” is that he took the wax and I know many that have either died, had strokes, had their heart become enlarged or developed turbo cancer or just dropped dead within the last couple of years. None of them seemed unhealthy before they took it. Remember it isn’t called the clot s55t for nothing. The vegan diet didn’t kill him, but unfortunately, although he didn’t seem to usually trust the allopathic doctors for health advice, he did for the poke. It’s very unfortunate and sad. 😢😢😢
Totally agree. Excess deaths up 10-17 percent over the normal in most Western countries so I think he has become a statistic.😢
Never though of that. He did look completely different and overly sickly the last couple of years.
💯 % SPOT ON!!!!
Excuses. Everybody knows that diet was awful. His diet killed him.
John had a stroke when he was only 18 .
What kind of stroke? Did he have a congenital vessel malformation or received a head injury? Makes a difference.
@@bendy6626while I’m not in the medical field, my husband is…
In talking with him about Dr John, a stroke at 18 is never “normal” …. And by normal, he means in the typical age demographic that one usually sees for strokes……and this indicates either some sort of vascular deformity or a possible underlying cardiac issue (again, not me speaking here…. But my husband) likely hereditary in nature. Obviously, it’s hard to say exactly, without looking at all the details.
So something was amiss very young in his life…and he clearly lived way longer than was expected, looking at his medial history.
@@trina7274that makes a lot of sense.
I posted the article about his stroke in another comment. Not sure if it will give you the answers you are looking for. It's why he went on the rice diet, trying to heal himself.
Yes, this is true. Patients who develop stroke at an early age are at much HIGHER risk for cardiovascular disease.... He also mentioned that he was paralyzed for weeks following the stroke event. He was able to live to 77, so his way of eating probably extended his lifespan. (BTW, I'm not vegan myself.) We all need to keep in mind: Diet is only one factor, just like genetics is one factor, as well as exercise, and other social/environmental factors. Vegan/plant-based won't cure someone's disease, but it can slow it down.... Given that he had a stroke at 18, I think he did well living to 77. I did not expect him to live to 100 with his genetic profile of cardiovascular risk.
Dr. McDougall had a stroke when he was 18 years old, and the mortality after having stroke at early age is pretty high according to a study that was done in Netherlands. His diet most likely helped him live longer.
It isn’t helpful to be reductionist about his life. Don’t look for the one thing, but the overall quality of his life.
Everybody will die.
Increase your health span, decrease your disease span.
Dr. McDougall had a massive stroke as a teenager at age 18. He did well to live to age 77. I am sure his diet prolonged his life. I follow him & also Neal Barnard, MD. My Italian grandpa lived to be 100 - he ate pasta with spaghetti sauce, canned ravioli, expresso coffee, Italian nougat candy & very little meat; he lived by himself in a tiny apt & walked to the park every day. He would have lived longer, but fell & broke his hip, caught pneumonia in the hospital & that's what killed him. Also, he smoked cigars!
Dr McDougal has a wealth of knowledge all on his web sight and its a history of his work gone but never forgotten!!!
The blue zones has been debunked. My Grandfather drank like a fish, ate meat and potatos. He died a couple weeks
shy of 99 years. My Father drank and smoked till 65 and lived till 90. Therefore I drink very little and don't smoke.
Dr McDougall's weight guidelines were amazingly unrealistic, look em up. Hope he is resting in peace.
Exactly the diet he promoted lacked many key nutrients. It wasn’t a healthy diet. It’s that simple. I really loved Dr McDougall but his diet not so much it made me quite sick. ❤
My dad dad and mom smoked like a chimney and I watched them struggle to breathe for years then die early of lung cancer, not a good end of life but hey your relatives won the lottery.
Don’t think you can debunk something like a blue zone
@@StoneyAngel I seen it on the internet.
RIP Dr McDougall🙏❤️🌹
Life expectancy has gone down 3yrs since Fauci
McDougall was great. Anyone can die of almost anything at any time. Anyone linking this to his excellent diet is just being emotional and not very smart. He didn't eat meat and he is one person who died. The only thing that's different is that he was a major figure and proponent of this lifestyle. As of yet no one knows what he died from, but they have plenty of opinions.. Thankfully his work will live on.
I just learned of him a few months ago. I heard he had a fall😢 He seemed to really want to help ppl. RIP.
McDougall helped me
He lived a good life , a blessing to many. Getting to die at home and not in out of hospital last few years.. good deal
My daughter was given a nutritionist to work with to overcome seizures when she was little at the Dr. Mercola clinic in Chicago. Her Nutritionists name was Jim Marlow and he ate a raw meat, primal diet and that’s what he was having me do with my daughter at the time. The diet worked but I don’t believe that it’s good long term. Anyhow, I just got word that her raw meat nutritionist died in his 60’s. 😢
Now I hear this about Dr. McDougall today and they were at opposite ends of the dietary spectrum so I can’t really say that either diet is right or wrong at this point but we really prefer the McDougall diet ❤
Eat my way and live to be 100! I know because I'm still alive and I'm 24! typical utube advise from the young musclemen
People think if you eat healthy you will never die. Just think if he didn't eat healthy he might have died a long time ago. I think he extended his life by eating healthier.
Dr. McDougall had a heart attack when he was young. That was one thing that led him to discover the amazing, healing whole plant food diet. Although people can't completely undo previous damage done to their bodies by eating the standard American diet, they can drastically improve their health on a WFPB diet. If Dr. McDougall never switched to whole plant foods, he probably would have died before the age of 50. 77 is a good old age for someone who had a heart attack in his early thirties.
True, but I don't think he did himself any favours by eating a low protein diet and not building strength especially as he got older.
Thank you for your compassionate and considered response.
George Burns lived over 100 and had cigars and martinis every day. There ya go!
Well, we can point to outliers all day long to prove basically just that. Some people (not the majority) have more (or less) resilience to the harmful influences to a healthy long life.
Only God knows when the time is up for someone no matter how healthy they ate. No diet guarantees longevity
A friend of mine has been on McDougall diet for like 40 years. He's now 80 or so, built like he was in high school. Anyway, I agree that you can't say this or that diet results in extreme longevity. Genes are probably more a factor than anything else for longevity.
The average age expectancy for a male in Canada is around 82... I suppose that Americans could be different but when you consider the fact that he was supposedly a lot healthier than most people just because of the mere fact that he cared about health, it is kind of shocking to hear that he passed away that young.
I think the healthiest diet is to eat balanced macros. Restricting one or another is good for short term objectives but I don't think it's best as a long term strategy. This of course requires you to be metabolically healthy to begin with.
Dr. MacDougall didn't have low muscle mass because of his diet, he had low muscle mass because he didn't lift weights. But on top of that, he claimed that humans did not need to eat more than 30g of protein a day and believed that a very low fat diet (less than 10g) was ideal. He believed that fat was the cause of insulin resistance. He projected the "ideal" diet on ALL humans based on his success treating unhealthy overweight patients. I'm a lean female, I lift heavy weights, run, and cycle. I did not do well on 30g of protein a day. And when I first started eating more than 10g of fat a day, I didn't feel well. So no, I absolutely do not think his diet is good for EVERYBODY and certainly not for the long term.
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This was a respectful, balanced commentary. However, I believe Dr. Baker misspoke when he said the McDougall plan was limited to 5% protein. 5% fat, but I don't think protein was limited. Beans, tofu, etc., were part of the diet.
Dr. MacDougall talked a lot about the fact that humans did not need more than 30g of protein a day. On several videos he said that most people shouldn't eat a lot of beans and he didn't recommend tofu but you could still eat it, as it was plant-based. I was vegan when I started following his videos and this is what struck me as not right. His justification was that it worked for all his patients. Yet he treated overweight, metabolically unhealthy people who were extremely sedentary. Dr. MacDougall himself was fairly sedentary. I often asked questions about this but never got an answer.
The meet tribe and the anti vaccine crowd are going after it. He says 10% protein. He had a stroke at 18 and a bad fall so that could have something to do with it. I like your take. It was very respectful.
Thank you
Vaccine is something you must ask
I think we shouldn’t feel winning or losing over someone’s death, even though I am carnivore. I wish him rest in peace.
I like you’re unbiased matter of fact viewpoint. I live a vegan lifestyle for ethical reasons, and eat whole foods plant based. I don’t know if my diet is “optimal”, but I’m 50 and never have to see the doctor and don’t have any health problems.
Good job!!
Dr McDougall's Whole Foods starch/plant based way of eating saved my husband from getting a 3rd stent. Both of us began this way of eating in 2010. My husband lost 32 pounds and got off all Rx drugs for blood pressure & high cholesterol and pre-diabetes. In 3 months time his arteries cleared & his heart function became great- good strong blood flow to the heart as confirmed by his cardiologist's heart function tests. Mc Douglas is NOT to be compared to Atkins! Please! Mc Dougall's message was simple: eat real whole food, as much as would satisfy, whenever you were hungry, cut out or limit the fatty foods, and eliminate the meat and dairy and oil. Essentially, do what your mama always told you: eat your fruits and veggies! There was one twist though: focus the majority of your food are satiating starches such as potatoes, grains, and beans and lentils.My hubby loved eating this way and was never hungry. The world death rate remains stable at 100% ! We are ALL going to die! McDougall died in his sleep at home - I assume. He was not in a nursing home. We should all be so lucky ! I have seen family members are friend die horrible deaths! Read "The Starch Solution". McDougall told people for free on his website how to eat. I bought all his books but I didn't need to- he put the information out there for free.
I thought Baker was rather gracious - McDougall and his wife were/are frail looking. Anyone can see it. And Baker has never claimed he has the secret to longevity. I'm not even a carnivore but I have to correct you when you are wrong. No one talks about Dr. Atkins?
Nope..
@@mattyswan1 The carnivores do.
@@AdamJStoryDC KenDBerryMD regularly talks about Dr. Atkins - over 3 million subs.
@@ToddDouglasFox Specifically Shawn Baker who Story is calling out - I've heard Chaffee claim perhaps there's longevity benefit - but Baker's stance is "I don't know" which I think should be everyone's stance if they're honest.
@@mattyswan1 There have been clues as to what you eat making you live longer, but if it doesn't fit what we want to hear, it's considered "conspiracy" or "he lied." The good news is that genetics plays a bigger role than anything. Even the great Jack LaLanne died.
He was on no medications, well, very coherent, etc and had a bad stroke at 18 , he was just an incredible man . What better way to go and that’s why I mostly eat his way
My heart goes out to his wonderful wife Mary and the family
Perhaps he stressed and overworked and that had an impact but loads of meat eaters die much younger and his kindness to all the animals he saved by his lifestyle I commend him RIP
Thank you.
That's very true. We don't know what inside of our body, what does it need, what's missing. We read our body by the symptoms, the signs it trying to tell us. My belief is that just eat varieties of healthy natural foods and keeping an active lifestyle. Prepare your own meals so you know what's in there and the ingredients you want and that you can control your eating. Everyone dies, we all get there anyway, sooner or later. The most important is to live healthy away from illnesses and die peacefully without suffering in pain. It's not about living long, it's about being happy and health is happiness.
John McDougall, M.D.will be remembered. I’ve been impressed with his information and books through the decades. I don’t follow any diet plan though.
Always nice to hear you doc thanks.
Thanks for listening
McDougall was great but had his issues. I don't like white rice from a health perspective. I'd swap out Quinoa and add ore beans or lentils.
The only thing that really matters is WHERE he ended up in the afterlife. That is far more important than what he ate.
I agree.
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Certainly 🙏🏽
For sure!!!
In the afterlife he ended up where everyone else does: either in dirt or in the oven. Calling it life is a stretch though.
Atkins died from falling on the ice and hitting his head. It is all about the quality of life my mom and I are carnivore and the arthritis sleepless nights sleep apnea low energy from poor hormones are all gone. I have seen many who have had their chronic illness and pain reversed by eat meat and a lot of fat. I have not seen this with other diets and in fact I went vegetarian for a year because of gout and I was in the worst health of my life that year. Turns out gout is caused by carbs and I should have never listened to my doctor.
Autopsy showd Dr Atkins arteries were complete;y furred up,so question is what made him fall?
Well, you have demonstrated that a healthy vegetarian diet (which does exist) is harder to pull off than a mono diet of meat and fat. The unhealthy choices for vegans and vegetarians are numerous these days and doesn't represent the natural health giving properties of whole unprocessed plant centric diet
@@taniagoldman seed and vegetable oils are highly inflammatory so are processed foods. If animal fat causes heart attacks and strokes why do vegans ha e heart attack and strikes. And why did they do an autopsy for a man who fell and hit his hesd?
Life is ultimately a mystery. When we die when we are born it’s in Gods hands. I really lovely a lot of what Dr McDougall taught he was a genius in a way. And yet the diet he followed I believe was lacking in nutrients. We are none without blindness. May he rest in peace 🙏
God doesn't exist. It's down to a thing called DNA. Science: check it out sometime.
People live the life they want to live, they are not competing with them selves.
We all die like it or not.
Everyone is throwing out the....'he had a stroke at 18, his vegan diet helped him live another 60 years" card. Jerry Lewis had 3 heart attacks,...33, 48, 75, copd, arthritis, health problems, smoke drank, ate meat and he lived to 92.
Vegans had a lot to say when Atkinson died at 72 for sure. That is what turned a lot of people vegan. I was WFPB for yrs and gained weight, got sick I had to put meat back in my diet and cut out a lot of carbs to start feeling better. 5:46 I was just putting this up when you started talking about Atkinson lol
McDougall wasn't just an influencer. He was a disciplined physician who worked tirelessly to discover why he had a stroke when he was 18yo.
His early books were groundbreaking and better researched than anything else available at the time.
My view as a health professional is that McDougall most likely had a dissected artery when 18yo, and again at his death. Stroke from embolus is highly unlikely at 18yo.
McDougall lived after his stroke with left sided weakness. Anyone who saw him move regularly knew that.
I respect McDougall, but think his family should wake up and realize his body should have at least two impartial autopsies to determine the actual cause of death, and the general state of his arteries and heart. Not to do this works against his life's work, and for what reason?
Show me the proof and the document from the 1965 hospital report that he had a stroke and then I will believe a fabricated stroke story that less than 1 in 10,000 teens get a stroke. In 1965 there were pens, paper, typewriter and camera so there should be a document. He then lied and said his diet caused this stroke even though he was slim and eating the same food as other family members. BB King an overweight diabetic for over 40 years was working non stop touring the world giving concerts throughout his 80's eating tasty food and never had any heart surgery or stroke.
The first question should be how many boosters he had before he died? 2nd, when was the last one?
DO NOT TRUST IN THE FOODS FOR LONG LIFE. TRUST IN THE ONE WHO CREATED THE FOODS - JESUS 😅. HE IS LIFE, AND HE GIVES YOU ETERNAL LIFE!😅🙏
That was a pretty uninformed response to the death of one of the world’s most influential physicians who dedicated his life to studying and teaching long established principles of nutrition supported in peer-reviewed scholarly journals.
Read other commenters and let them know.
He was definitely a successful physician who healed most of his patients. His diet is not a terrible one, it's just not meant for everyone in the long term. It was very good for those who are overweight, sedentary, and unhealthy because it was probably much better than what they were eating on their own. But it was a low-protein, low-fat diet and that's not the best for a "normal" fit person who is active. Not many athletes, both recreational and professional, subscribe to the low fat low protein diet...
@@evec2022I don’t know what diet you promote, but you were very respectful. So many people are speculating about how and why he died when it could literally be anything. It is easy to distinguish those that have critical thinking skills and those who do not. You definitely fit into the first category. I will say Dr McDougall’s diet is 10-15% protein 65-75 carbs 10-15 fat. As you reach your optimal weight you can increase protein and fat to 20% and go 60% carbs. Of the carbs & Protein he would like 80-90% come from starches. If you are trying to lose weight faster he recommends a 50/50 plate 50% non starchy veg and 50% starch. It keeps you full and is very sustainable.
@@robz.3225 I don't think there's one diet that is universally better than another. I think each person has an ideal one for their body in a given moment in time but the body changes and we have to 1) know how to find that ideal diet and 2) know when it no longer works and adjust. Food is such an individual thing and what one person finds satisfying may not be the same as another. Obviously the keto people find fat satisfying but plenty of people find carbs more satisfying!
You put your money down and take your chances, no guarantees in life
After suffering a lacunar stroke at age 18, it's a miracle he lived as long as he did. His normal lifespan is a testament to his diet. Had he eaten the SAD he would have died in his 40s.
Show me the 1965 hospital document he had a stroke at 18 and show me the photo of where he is 50 pounds overweight and show me the document he had a total cholesterol level of 335 mg/dL while being slim and fit. Then show me a photo of Santa Claus on his 1st birthday. Then show me all the people who gave money to Jim Bakker because they thought he was an honest minister.
@@Jeffs60 You couldn't have said it better.
@@peter5.056 McDougall hero was Nathan Pritikin a man with no credentials in any health or medical field who wrecked his health. Would you get dental work done by someone with no credentials, no experience and no license in anything related to dentistry? Dr. Bessie Delany age 104, the second African American woman licensed to practice dentistry in New York State would never approve of a starch based diet since she saw first hand what consuming a fad diet would do to wreck your health and teeth.
I know two persons personally who live over 100 years old. One was a millionaire and was a middle class man. This were their advices to me. 1. Exercise 2. Eat eggs everyday 3. Drinks wine 4. Take a nap 5. Have sex 6. Get a massage 7. Eat all the food you like except sugar 8. Drinks coffee and tea. Both of them survive WW2. One was a bomber pilot and one was an army infantry. Lastly they told always enjoy life and avoid drama of stress.
I remember when health food advocate, Euell Gibbons, passed away at age 64. It was 1975. I think we just go when we go, regardless of our diet or lifestyle. My mom smoked, drank very little water, ate candy and ice cream daily, and didn’t exercise. She was tiny. She lived past age 90. My dad, who did none of that and was active, died in his sleep, at age 61.
it's not about the diets per se. we know that most health benefits come from low bmi, ldl cholesterol and blood pressure. those are the things that kill. there are many diets you can eat to have good numbers on those. but you can't eat carnivore. we also know that high animal protein diets increase cancer risk.
Our parents, grandparents did really well on a balanced meat potato veggie diet.
Okay John McDougal may not have been the best vegan influencer. I think i like Jack Leyland's approach to health. He was very fit and active through to his early 90's. He died at 96 years old. He was not a vegan, but he wasn't a heavy meat eater either. He ate mostly fruits and vegetables with some meats, which were mostly fish. One of his biggest contributions to health was being active weght lifting & swimming. The eeked fitness his entire life.
This, in my opinion, is THE answer. The people who live the longest on this planet eat like you described. Cutting out entire macros for long periods of time (or for life) isn't the way to go. Diet and fitness go hand in hand. This is the one situation where 1 (diet) + 1 (fitness) = 3 in my opinion.
I followed his diet for a while and my health deteriorated to the point I was hospitalised.
What’s blue zones?
By the way, thanks for the information about beetroot! I saw my cardiologist yesterday and he said to take it. I had to go onto my medicine. But he said if I take the beetroot and my blood pressure goes down, I can go off the medicine slowly if the boot keeps being low.
If I live to 77 and had a quality of life the way he did when he living at his place ar CA, place I would be happy;!
are you 76?
No I am 66 but I have a neuroendocrine tumor...
Oh wow! I had no idea! Glad you made the video. I gained weight and got infections on his diet. I do well on a much higher protein diet with lots of fruits and vegetables.
I think the optimal diet is somewhere in between vegan and carnivore!!! :)
@@evec2022 🤣Good one! For sure it is!
Average life expectancy is 76 years. The goal is to live healthy and do no harm to anyone. None of get out of this alive!
I'm on the Bourbon diet !!
Your video is about nothing !!
so is keith richards, and he is 80.
Very young for a diet guru. He advocated plant based, low fat especially low saturated fat, and you'd expect him to live into his late 80's or 90's.
I highly recommend that you watch Dr. Ken Berrys YT videos about the carnivore diet. And make sure you read the comments under his videos.
Hundreds of people are saying that they have reversed type 2 diabetes, fatty liver, high blood pressure, RA, IBS, skin conditions, mental health problems, heart related problems, and the list goes on. ALL from eating a carnivore diet. (the proper human diet.)
I highly recommend that you watch McDougal's videos and read the comments...the testimonials are EXACTLY THE SAME. That's what makes diets confusing.
@@AdamJStoryDC All diets work, if you go from something very unhealthy to something more healthy. Going from candy, chips, and fries to vegan or carnivore will do it. And it will be good for a certain time, but in my opinion, for the long term, the answer is going to be somewhere in the middle.
Avoiding carbs is just bypassing the problem altogether. Your body is supposed to be able to eat carbs and not run amok. On the other hand, a low protein diet in the long term is equally damaging unless you're very sedentary.
@@evec2022 I know. Very few on the internet understand that.
@AdamJStoryDC Hundreds are saying that they tried a vegan diet for years and their health deteriorated. But when they switched to a carnivore diet their health improved dramatically. There is nothing confusing about that.
@@gregelliott3556 well if 100 people said it’s true, then YOU should go carnivore. Keep in mind that 100’s have also tried carnivore and it didn’t work for them. That doesn’t mean it’s bad for YOU . ( I’m assuming you’re into the carnivore scene).
He had a stroke at 18 and lived until 77 so his diet kept him going i know 40 year olds on 10 medications and not looking to change nuffin so rip to John
What you say is so true, and a good sensible take on this subject.
My Dad died at 74 and he loved meat, I am plant based and will take my chances.
Well said. I always enjoy watching you, Dr. Adam, since you say it like it is. No BS but always with kindness.
He had a stroke at 18, this is probably relevant. But nonetheless, even if it was nothing to do with this, nothing is ever guaranteed and you can still die from cancer caused by pollution, radiation etc (not saying its cancer but if that's true). He looked frail in his final few months so probably had a health condition. Doesnt detract from his diet.
I learned a lot from Dr. McDougall. I still eat some meat, but a lot more fruits and vegetables. My bloodwork, arthritis and overall heath is better from listening to him. I eat what makes my body feel good. I will miss listening to him.
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yeah...you don't have to be extreme with your diet. I think lots of people get it wrong because the extreme diets are what get attention.
Yeah,but what's the actually causes,we will never know.
i don’t agree with his diet .. but he seemed like a very like-able man and his wife seems lovely as well .. Lord have Mercy on his soul and comfort his wife ….
He seemed a lovely caring person. He was very positive about the vaxxine. I dont think that helped his longevity. I did both his diet and the carnivore diet... ❤ RIP. Incidently, my dad ate and drank like a dusbin and lived to his 90 year.
Very well said. So professional!
Glad you enjoyed it
Perhaps after the grieving period is over, the caused of death will be revealed. We know this man ate 100% WFPB for most of his adult life (post stroke). Cancers do not cause sudden death. Heart attacks and strokes do, however. Unless the COD is disclosed, many ppl in the PB community will be left wondering is this truly the best WOE for optimal health and longevity.
It's definitely a difficult situation for the family since the family is invested (figuratively and literally) in that MacDougall diet.
Good commentary!
Who wants to live forever. Queen. Thanks.
Some folks in Genesis lived hundreds of years. What did they eat? Veggies, fruit, grains, some meat and fish. Oh, and yeah, that nasty fruit of the good and evil tree! RIP Mr. Potato head. Thanks for posting
Great take on this. Very rational. Thanks.
He didn't live that much longer than Dr. Atkins. The last few times I saw Dr. McDougall, he looked awful - very pasty and skinny. And Jordan Peterson? He's not the person people think he is...and sorry; but nothing but meat? That's nuts. We need everything but those who just eat one thing and say that's the diet we should all be on, don't know a lot about nutrition.
Dr Atkins slipped on the ice and hit his head, died of complications from that fall. Big difference.
All those carnivore doctors are now quitting and eating salad. People were duped thinking carnivore is anywhere remotely healthy.
Why do you say JP isn’t the person people think he is
Your statement is false those doctors are still eating meat they just have added a little bit of honey and fruit.@@vitaminb4869
I'm into RDA protein diets, mostly vegan must say I never heard of him. It's all about averages. I like the longevity experts like Longo. Five precent protein seems low to me. You can also go high, a lot of fitness influencers are recommending double the RDA!
Thanks for sharing!
The difference is that fitness people are working out, they aren't just peeing out their protein intake. A sedentary person won't need as much protein as an active person who is breaking down significantly more muscle fibres.
Obviously..not enough quality protein. We are made of proteins. I eat what my Body tells me too..not some man. People need to Learn to think for themselves. 😊❤
Have you seen the documentary film FAT? I thought it was superb. I am BBBE (beef, bacon, butter & eggs. May Dr. M rest in peace.