I second that motion! Coop is (in my opinion) the leading authority when it come to evaluating and suggesting equipment for the home gym. I’ve purchased several items based on his reviews and I’ve not been let down! Coop’s the man! Thanks buddy!
I have this mounted between my 2 Rouge racks in my garage. I never understood why this product didn't get more hype behind it. My wife said she really wanted a cable machine if we had a home gym. I bought it thinking it would work till we had more money for a commercial style machine but she loves it so it's going to stay. We have had it for about 3 or 4 years and it's been solid. I've had 300lbs loaded on it and it handled it with no issues. When we bought it we paid $199 but still worth it at the current price for sure
@@ramatannaya Just got mine put together 15 mins ago. The pulleys definitely feel cheap. It's not baby bottom smooth, but I definitely agree with Coop's review in that it's smoothness is not something that is going to impede my workout any. I mounted mine to my rack and it definitely is stable without any wobble which is super nice. My biggest recommendation when buying this is to buy a two to one adapter for any of your pull down attachments such as a rope. Trying to hook both clips onto a single attachment is difficult and doesn't feel that great.
Nice to see an Equipment Company that still sells some equipment for standard 1" hole plates. I only have standard 1" hole plates and use them for everything (including bench, squat, deadlift). Also very good review.
Yeah, I started with 1in plates. That size was the standard when I started. I don't want to start over buying plates. It is easy to add an adapter to go up to Olympic plates but not so easy to go down. I think most gym equipment should come designed for 1in. Adapters are cheap, plates are not. Shopping for a home gym upgrade now, had to eliminate some good options because it was Olympic plates only, and buying new plates would add a couple thousand to the cost, when I already have several hundred lbs in 1in plates.
I've had this for a few years. I recommend not mounting directly to drywall with lag screw. First mount a 2x4 type to wall, span at least two studs. Both bottom and top. In the 2x4, make a clearance hole for the screw which will mount the rack to the wood blocking. Use a .25 Tnut and use .25 machine screw. This allow you to demount the unit without compromising the strength of the joint over time. It also spread the load via the wood blocking to TWO studs.
I'm thrilled I found your channel! I'm a100 % disabled veteran and after beating PTS after 10 years, I am ready to get my life back and started working out and doing physical rehab Your machine let's me do everything i need and want to do and I couldn't afford anything more. ❤❤❤ Thank you for making such a great piece of equipment that a regular person can afford😊
Great review! I used this machine for ~4 years and absolutely loved it. It was, by far, my favorite piece of equipment in my garage and the price is amazing for what you get. There are some DIY lat pull down leg guards floating around the web for this machine, but i agree, Titan should make a lat pulldown accessory. I recently sold it to make room for my Rep rack + Athena, but i was a little sad to let it go.
Got this a couple of years ago. Great product. One tip, before assembly, pop off the side of each pulley wheel and spray with silicone lube spray (not wd40) and wipe down the tracks with the same. Makes a huge difference.
@@StrongerThanBigfoot I considered that but the pulley replacement costs as much or more than the full system itself. I'm not talking anyone out of it but I found that lithium grease on each pulley helped significantly and has been good enough for me for now.
@@scottbrobertsrease works OK but can be worse than nothing if the environment is dusty. Dry lube spray is typically recommended for this type of thing
@@454Casull I wasn't clear. I lubed the inside of each pulley then reassembled it. Maybe that's still what you're referring to but it's worked very well for me. Some pulleys still don't move well (I can only assume due to poor quality) but most went from barely spinning on their own to multiple smooth rotations and remained this way for well over a year.
Bought it, love it. Provides that commercial gym feel without breaking the bank. All Coop’s critiques are on point. I would add that, when performing heavy straight-bar bicep curls, the front legs will raise off the floor slightly (they cannot be bolted down). Still my favorite piece of equipment in my garage gym.
I've had the original/v1 for years now, and I love it! I add 3-1 oil to a rag and wipe down both metal beams every month, it helps everything move smoothly. Also, it's very easy to get some cheap hardware from lowes/home depot to create a fixed separation between cables when you want to connect them; I then use that to connect attachments when I want to use both pulleys for 1-1. This is more stable/smoother when you want to use each cable together, and it keeps them in more natural angle when using higher up the stack so the cables rub less/wear less.
@@Travis_24 to be honest I don't even know the name of the pieces I chose. I just went the hardware section and looked through to find what I wanted. Each side is like a bolt with a loop on the end, and there's a piece in the middle that they can screw/tighten into independently. This is so you can get the desired width/separation for the cables to fix their distance apart. But I've no idea what it is called. You can then put a carabiner clip in the middle of that, which clips into whatever accessory piece you want to use. There would be multiple ways to go about it, but that is what I found and works for me.
Thanks so much Coop - i love that you understand that there are some of us who like to save money but are on the lookout for products that give us value and quality. Thanks for not judging us
I've had one for several years now and I bought sleeve adapters from Amazon bc Titan is always out of theirs. The little hack I like to use the most is that there's just enough space under the base support to slip a band through, so I use a light band and hook it to each of the loading pins. I usually leave the band on as my "base" resistance and load plates on top of that. The piece has been surprisingly fun and easy to use.
I have just added the Mirafit version of this into my gym, and love it. It already comes with the Olympic sleeves and a double to single carabiner attachment as standard. Great build quality and great functionality. Being in the UK it is more expensive (£300) than the Titan equivalent you guys get in the US, but it does come with the additional sleeves and carabiner attachment. Love the GGR channel guys, keep up the great work.
You mentioned to list other cable stations that are wall-mounted, and I just recently purchased the one from ER Kang. It’s very similar to the Titan except it does have dual guide rods at the back which I feel makes it run much smoother. They also include the Olympic weight sleeves, and I paid about 220 bucks on Amazon prime day. It also included the same handles as a titan with a straight push down bar, lay pull down bar, and triceps rope. There is also a foot plate that mounts to the front so you could sit down and do floor exercises and brace your feet up against it. I find it excellent for the money and the features. Have you ever tried this one?
Thanks for your comment. I just watched a review of these and ended up buying two ... there's an Amazon Prime deal for $180 each. When I got up this morning the plan was to buy one, but so many reviewers of these budget machines are saying get two, and at the price point why not. I like the foot pads on the ER Kang, the pulley trolley has rollers, and the dual slider rods.
@@snowball4416 I wonder if you got it from the same seller that I ordered mine from. So it's legit? I ended up cancelling my order because I asked them a question and they answered right away but sent a photo that was clearly not the advertised unit. I ended up buying a Bells of Steel unit with the weight stack, so instead of spending $180 like you did, it was $1,200. I agonized a lot but in the end decided that the benefits to me of getting a weight stack were worth the significantly extra money. That's cool you got the ER Kang one.
I have had a Valor BD-62 (what Titan copied here) mounted on my basement wall since early 2019, does the job. It was $150 back then and they threw in a 2 handle to 1 bracket in their version. I still use it daily in addition to my Rep lat low row, for lighter arm movements.
I’ve had this machine for two years now and just love it! Since I’m intending to keep it indefinitely I recently added aluminum pulley wheels which give it a much smoother pull through.
I actually think the slim rod option is better because you can always go thicker with a sleeve but you can't really go slimmer and in my case I built my home gym around the first set of dumbbells I got back in HS which uses the small hole plates. If it were a thick rod this wouldn't be an option for me.
Ive had mine for a couple of years, back when it was 125$. Other than not hagunv the bottom anchor point this version does, I love it. I have olympic plates for barbell, but also got a bunch of random standard plates so its great to have a set for each
Ive had this cable system for over 5 years and have had zero issues with it. I use it 4-6x a week. If you get this I suggest taking off all the pulleys and grease each bearing.
I had this and used it for a long time. It’s great and I loved it. For the price point it’s super hard to beat. That pop pin for moving the trolly up and down is the machines weakest point the threads stripped not long after buying it.
I have 2 of these. Got them early 2021. Got them about 7 feet apart. I use it like a functional trainer/cable cross over. This absolutely fit that cable machine need at a fraction of the price. When I got mine I think they were a lot lower in the price too. I have a separate plate loaded lat pulldown low row from Titan as well.
@@sweaty_matt121 I think they are pretty smooth imo. Nothing that affects lifting. I once had a single point high low pulley machine that was absolutely horrible. This does the job. If you have a few extra get it with the weight stack. The plate loaded I have work just fine. Stack would just be more convenient.
I’ve had mine for a year and a half and love it. I want everything I have to be versatile. Like a barbell, plates, rack, and adjustable dumbbells. This can be used for so many movements so I could easily justify it. Not great for chest flys, but I love it for reverse flys. My home gym is in my basement with extremely low ceilings, but this is compact enough that it fits between the floor joists. I would highly recommended this piece of equipment.
@ yeah, the two pulley connections are too close together for chest Flys in my opinion. About three-quarter into the range of motion the cables just end up wrapping around your shoulders.
@@travistice9996 have you seen those improvised setups with a 2x4 strapped to the top and pulleys on each end? Might give you the right clearance for flies, for pretty cheap.
I’ve had my v3 of this over three years now. When I got it I paid under $150! Very good investment. I use my Olympic steel and bumper plates and don’t have any issues.
I have the Valor version that has been great for me for the past 3 years. I think the weight capacity is less but it has guide rods so it's pretty smooth. I never understood why more people didn't go this route. It's been one of the most useful budget pieces in my home gym to date.
I’ve had mine for 4 years and love it. I would love some more options like you said if a lat seat was offered. I will def look into upgrading the pulleys, could be smoother.
A key for my use of this was the height options. The Titan lower height options work in my basement. Most brands only feature stuff too tall for the basement.
I have this in my gym. Been using it for a year and love it! Super easy to use and quickly adjustable. Like you mentioned I wish they had a removable lat pull down seat for it. That would make it complete and I think there would be a big market for it.
Had mine for over 3 years now. Replaced all the pulleys with gym grade pulleys which added about 80 more dollars. Also snapped the cable with about 160 lbs on it and replaced with home depot cable.
@@CamaronesFuegos Definitely, the bearings give it a smooth pull, I have been using mine for about a 1.5 years and I have no complaints. My big bro has the Titan and is also happy. I think they are both great, but the archon has a smoother pull.
I have been using this (version 2) for the past couple years and love it. I did buy the BD-62 cable attachment clip from Valor for $3 which connects the cables together and instantly became the biggest upgrade to this cable machine. Highly recommend!
I bought the BD-62 secondhand and it didn't have the clip attachment. I used it for over a year without the clip. I finally ordered it and man was it a game changes. Makes the machine so much more versatile!
@@CamaronesFuegos I have really enjoyed it! I have it bolted into my concrete foundation and can load it up really heavy if need be. Not as smooth as a higher end version, but gets the job done at a very reasonable price!
@@sgread I actually reached out to their customer rep email and was able to get in touch with someone who was able to help me out. I don't think you can buy it directly off their site.
Got it, it's awesome 👌 buy yourself a 4 hole flat T plate at home depot on your clips to separate them and it works even better it separates the cable. Try it!!
I have this in my killer garage gym mounted to my rack with custom mounts that I designed. It’s the absolute best accessory in my gym. Don’t buy the sleeves you don’t need them. I routinely stack Olympic weight on the standard sleeve and they don’t ever wobble. I paid less than 200$ and this equipment is something I use daily.
I'd still go for BOS because that can double as a squat rack (yes the holes can hold jcups) they call it the 'Plate Loaded Cable Tower Squat Stand' $725 only real draw back I think it uses their weird 2.3" rack attachments so you're stuck in that ecosystem but at least you have options. Has a pull-up bar and many attachments. A FT with a bonus squat rack is a really nice feature.
@@jamesroalson5269 I think you're going to run into an issue with the PIN/hole size on the attachments as the T2 likely uses 1" holes and I think the holes on the cable system are smaller.
I also have one of these in my apartment gym. It’s freaking amazing IMHO. Completely transformed my at home workouts. All the drawbacks Coop states are accurate, but for me totally worth it.
Best piece in my gym next to rack and bar. DYI use a bench with roller to lock in your legs for lat pulls. I actually like the standard rod as it’s easier to pull weights off single handed.
Thank goodness there's a short version. My basement only has 82" of height. Currently having issue looking for a power rack as many are 84" or 87". This will definitely be my next equipment purchase after the rack.
Have this in my home gym and I love it. I would probably go with the Inspire Fitness one from Costco if we had more room. But it fits the space and budget.
I have the inspire rack, bought it when it was $795 (I think), and really like it but wish they had a cable machine like this. So 1or 2 like this will be coming soon
I bought two of these as part of building out my home gym in 2020 specifically to do crossovers and unilateral cable work. I heartily agree with everything said here, especially the benefit of some silicone spray on the carriage pole
This is great for a beginner lifter or someone look to do high rep light weight cable stuff. I owned this for 2 years and anytime i went heavy at all, one of the plastic pulleys would break or the cheap plastic coated cable would get damaged. Its really not built with longevity in mind so i would definitely recommend getting a pulley system slightly higher quality for any serious lifters. I've swapped to just using a high strength DIY double pulley attached to my rack and its already wayyyyyy better.
I bought this knowing full well it’s a budget purchase. I was still surprised at how low quality it was. The nylon pulleys don’t spin even after lubricating. The pulley carriage on the front grinds against the steel cap in the long cable, so much so that I’m sure it will eventually grind down to the pulley. I wish I had spent the extra for the BOS tower.
This looks identical to the Mirafit wall mounted cable machine I bought recently. Mirafit are a UK company but I wouldn't be surprised if their machine is just a rebranded Titan. But I totally agree with your assessment, mine came with the olympic sleeve adapter, for a total price of £299 and I'm very happy with it for the price. It's not as smooth as a commercial machine in use, but it's a lot better than I expected and I've used some badly maintained cable machines in commercail gyms that were much worse than this. My only other gripe is that because the lower pulley on the upright juts out further than the upper pulley, if you're using it overhead you have to overcome the resistance of the ball on the pulley wheel to pull the cable down or pull the cable out a bit before down. If it's heavily loaded this can make it a bit awkward. I assume there's a good reason they've done it this way, but it's a bit annoying. Otherwise it's so much better than the cheap rack pulley attachement I've been using for the last 3 years. This is so much more versatile, and allows me to do much more accessory work with it quickly,
I own two of them, and I connected the top of the machines together with a 8 -foot long metal rail and 6-inch corner braces with each machine facing each other , instead of side by side, to make a cheap self-standing functional trainer.
I bought a Syedee Functional trainer Cable Crossover Machine for $480 and totally regret it😩😩 the darn thing is so clunky, stiff and unstable. Only the pull down and low/flow pull portion on the machine is good. I wish I had seen this before my purchase. This channel is gold and helped me purchase a good bench though (super bench pro).
If you want to do chest flys on just one of these, attach both carabiners to a bar like the Steadfast multi attachment, use chains or long straps and connect your handles to them and you’ll be good to go.
I have that short height version and love it. I wish i had discovered it prior to covid so i could have had a better home gym setup. You can't beat the functionality for the price. It can do 90% of what a real functional trainer can do, but at 1/3 to 1/4 the price. And with su h a small footprint, there is no reason why it shouldn't be added to someone's home gym. I bought a cheap suspension trainer (trx knock off) and use those for the handles in place of the stock ones.
Thank you for this video!! I wasn’t sure about going with a cheap option. After watch this I just ordered one on Amazon. Says 11gauge steel, has 2” adapters and has a two rounded pole slide for weight trolly. $179. Has two footplates and 18 height adjustments. Includes basic attachments. ER Kang brand or something similar to that. It actually seems a bit nicer than this one. Reviews seem pretty good for what it is. I’m currently using a Bowflex Extreme SE I got on marketplace for $100. I’m newer to all this and the bowflex has been great but the tension is different than free weights and I didn’t understand that early on. Seemed like a cheap all around option. Gonna try to get $200 on marketplace for it and consider it a straight up swap. we’ll see. If nothing else, I’ll poach the pulleys, leg extension and cables from it to make something there’s like a dozen pulleyes I could sell them for $10/each and more than break even lol
I bought one a few months ago and I agree with all of your points. Great machine, could be better but for the price point, I'm very happy with it. I do like the idea of buying a second and pairing it with my original. Cost savings and increase in versatility make this a great idea. I will add the Olympic adaptive sleeve once they get back in stock.
Looks legit if you are on a budget and even tight on space, but something to be said to saving for that special piece you do want that isn't a huge compromise.
It looks like they did nail the sweet spot there with price v. functionality. I like that it's wall mounted and you don't have to bolt it to the ground as well.
for the money and what it does, this is the best on the market. I have one that I purchased for 179 pre-covid. I'm kicking my-self I didnt buy the second one I want to make a functional trainer. I will change the pulleys at some point.
My main gripe with the Titan unit is that the holes do not go higher on the front-upright. I personally own one from Valor Fitness and its better in my opinion. granted, you are spending a bit more, but I think its worth it for such a versatile tool in a home gym.
Love this thing, I drilled a couple holes (about 3/8”) on the back of the front post and made a makeshift lay pulldown. Plenty strong and works great, just don’t tell TF
I'm happy Titan sent this product is so GGR could do a commercial of approval. If you say things on Facebook and it's not approved by the certain UA-cam personalities than people will jump in with their attacks even when they don't even own the product. Some people have different budgets and I continue to relate that information but it doesn't matter because they want you to have a Maserati regardless of your zip code. I have one and it is attached to my inexpensive power rack. I wish you would have shown that as well but if you look on UA-cam you can see someone who has done it. This is a great product. It is very versatile and it's pretty much all you need unless you want to use the idea of getting two so you can have more options of exercises. Good job Coop. Now when I see this on Facebook I don't have to be afraid to make a positive comment or do I
Personally I bought the valor fitness version. Basically same thing except the carriage system is round bars instead of square. Way smoother and they give you a piece to connect both pulleys together.
Make your own Olympic to standard adapters using 1 1/2" x 3/4" plumbing parts (Reducer) and some white duct tape. It's easy. I just did it last night and it works great. Cheap too.
Have had 1 of these for a few years now and it has worked great!! Only issue I have is that after about the first year, the insulation on the main cable started coming off in several sections. Not a huge deal but just annoying having to replace it after such a short period.
I have the version 1 And I use it for lat pull down and etc plus I use the 2.1 & 1.1 ratio great cable for the price I attached it the rack solid peice of equipment
Coop! I bought this pulley system last year to rehab after shoulder surgery. It's been a game-changer. The 2:1 and 1:1 becomes intuitive when you own it and upgrading components over time is certainly on the table. I have noticed a big problem, however - it's the plastic guide on the stack - it simply comes off. This has resulted in scratches in the metal it travels along. I've contemplated using epoxy to keep it attached to the metal weight-shuttle, but am uncertain of the long-term consequences of doing so. Any helpful ideas you have (or can glean from Titan) would be very welcome. As to the 1" plate loading - it was a great way for me to start as I have Ironmaster DBs and was able to use the weights for this until I could add Olympics for it.
The fact that it can take 1 inch plates is a huge positive. More people looking for a budget option will have 1 inch plates, props to them for recognising that. I wouldnt be spending $35 for the adapters either. You could just MacGyver some adapters with stuff laying around your home if it was that much of an issue.
I love it have used for 3 years but wish the crossover was a little wider. Saw a diy on how to do it with the bells of steel version. You should do one with the titan
I have the Valor version. So much functionality in a small footprint! And if you have some old 1" plates laying around, clean 'em up and you're good to go.
i always think that cable machines are all what you need at home gym, you can do chest back shoulders traps triceps biceps forearms abs, you can also go for legs with some additional parts thx for the review
Thanks for a great review! Like most garage gym owners, I'm limited for space. I have a heating duct intersecting at the wall next to the stud where I would mount this unit. So, no clearance issues for the 25" required at the base but I'm very limited for space at the top of the unit. The very top of the unit looks to be shaped a bit like a "T". How wide is that at the widest point?
Your approval on multiple gym options has cost me money, but you don’t let me down. Thank you
I second that motion! Coop is (in my opinion) the leading authority when it come to evaluating and suggesting equipment for the home gym.
I’ve purchased several items based on his reviews and I’ve not been let down!
Coop’s the man!
Thanks buddy!
@@globecomputers1 With yall on that.
I have this mounted between my 2 Rouge racks in my garage. I never understood why this product didn't get more hype behind it. My wife said she really wanted a cable machine if we had a home gym. I bought it thinking it would work till we had more money for a commercial style machine but she loves it so it's going to stay. We have had it for about 3 or 4 years and it's been solid. I've had 300lbs loaded on it and it handled it with no issues. When we bought it we paid $199 but still worth it at the current price for sure
UPDATE: I just got mine in the mail. They do now come with 2inch sleeves included.
I just purchased the tower a week ago, the 2 inch plate adapter is now included with it.
@@817Teamsters can you give your opinion with the pulley smoothness?
@@ramatannaya Just got mine put together 15 mins ago. The pulleys definitely feel cheap. It's not baby bottom smooth, but I definitely agree with Coop's review in that it's smoothness is not something that is going to impede my workout any. I mounted mine to my rack and it definitely is stable without any wobble which is super nice. My biggest recommendation when buying this is to buy a two to one adapter for any of your pull down attachments such as a rope. Trying to hook both clips onto a single attachment is difficult and doesn't feel that great.
does it still have the standard 1 inch sleeves? those are the plates i already have
@@mysides_ yes it still comes with the 1” rails and the 2” Olympic plate adapters so you can use either size with it
Nice to see an Equipment Company that still sells some equipment for standard 1" hole plates. I only have standard 1" hole plates and use them for everything (including bench, squat, deadlift). Also very good review.
I'm a 1in guy to .....well that sounds horrible 😅
Yeah, I started with 1in plates. That size was the standard when I started. I don't want to start over buying plates. It is easy to add an adapter to go up to Olympic plates but not so easy to go down. I think most gym equipment should come designed for 1in. Adapters are cheap, plates are not. Shopping for a home gym upgrade now, had to eliminate some good options because it was Olympic plates only, and buying new plates would add a couple thousand to the cost, when I already have several hundred lbs in 1in plates.
I've had this for a few years. I recommend not mounting directly to drywall with lag screw. First mount a 2x4 type to wall, span at least two studs. Both bottom and top. In the 2x4, make a clearance hole for the screw which will mount the rack to the wood blocking. Use a .25 Tnut and use .25 machine screw. This allow you to demount the unit without compromising the strength of the joint over time. It also spread the load via the wood blocking to TWO studs.
Solid advice
how much force is on the wall? is it just for stability?
I'm thrilled I found your channel!
I'm a100 % disabled veteran and after beating PTS after 10 years, I am ready to get my life back and started working out and doing physical rehab
Your machine let's me do everything i need and want to do and I couldn't afford anything more. ❤❤❤
Thank you for making such a great piece of equipment that a regular person can afford😊
Great review! I used this machine for ~4 years and absolutely loved it. It was, by far, my favorite piece of equipment in my garage and the price is amazing for what you get. There are some DIY lat pull down leg guards floating around the web for this machine, but i agree, Titan should make a lat pulldown accessory. I recently sold it to make room for my Rep rack + Athena, but i was a little sad to let it go.
I’m about to get one. Thanks for your comment.
Got this a couple of years ago. Great product. One tip, before assembly, pop off the side of each pulley wheel and spray with silicone lube spray (not wd40) and wipe down the tracks with the same. Makes a huge difference.
I seen a video where a guy switched the pulleys out with aluminum ones and was a huge difference
I did this with lithium grease and highly recommend it (silicone is great too)
@@StrongerThanBigfoot I considered that but the pulley replacement costs as much or more than the full system itself. I'm not talking anyone out of it but I found that lithium grease on each pulley helped significantly and has been good enough for me for now.
@@scottbrobertsrease works OK but can be worse than nothing if the environment is dusty. Dry lube spray is typically recommended for this type of thing
@@454Casull I wasn't clear. I lubed the inside of each pulley then reassembled it. Maybe that's still what you're referring to but it's worked very well for me. Some pulleys still don't move well (I can only assume due to poor quality) but most went from barely spinning on their own to multiple smooth rotations and remained this way for well over a year.
Bought it, love it. Provides that commercial gym feel without breaking the bank. All Coop’s critiques are on point. I would add that, when performing heavy straight-bar bicep curls, the front legs will raise off the floor slightly (they cannot be bolted down). Still my favorite piece of equipment in my garage gym.
Can't you just drill a hole through the foot and bolt it down?
I think if you made a U shaped metal piece to fit over the legs then you could bolt it down...
It’s not “alluding” people, (as per your pronunciation.) It’s “eluding” people!
I've had the original/v1 for years now, and I love it! I add 3-1 oil to a rag and wipe down both metal beams every month, it helps everything move smoothly. Also, it's very easy to get some cheap hardware from lowes/home depot to create a fixed separation between cables when you want to connect them; I then use that to connect attachments when I want to use both pulleys for 1-1. This is more stable/smoother when you want to use each cable together, and it keeps them in more natural angle when using higher up the stack so the cables rub less/wear less.
What hardware did you get for the 2 to 1 clips?
@@Travis_24 to be honest I don't even know the name of the pieces I chose. I just went the hardware section and looked through to find what I wanted. Each side is like a bolt with a loop on the end, and there's a piece in the middle that they can screw/tighten into independently. This is so you can get the desired width/separation for the cables to fix their distance apart. But I've no idea what it is called. You can then put a carabiner clip in the middle of that, which clips into whatever accessory piece you want to use.
There would be multiple ways to go about it, but that is what I found and works for me.
@mjconns any chance you could make a video on what your talking about? It sounds dope just can't picture it.
I have a 2 of these in my shed!! I put one on each side of the door. It is the perfect substitute for a functional trainer! Great review!!
Thanks so much Coop - i love that you understand that there are some of us who like to save money but are on the lookout for products that give us value and quality. Thanks for not judging us
I've had one for several years now and I bought sleeve adapters from Amazon bc Titan is always out of theirs. The little hack I like to use the most is that there's just enough space under the base support to slip a band through, so I use a light band and hook it to each of the loading pins. I usually leave the band on as my "base" resistance and load plates on top of that. The piece has been surprisingly fun and easy to use.
Damn that's a good idea. Imma do that on my Titan. Great piece of equipment.
Interesting, so you slide a band underneath the machine and loop it on each side of the pins? thats a cool idea.
@@DBMe23 Exactly! And so far as I can tell, the band isn’t getting worn out any faster than normal either.
I have just added the Mirafit version of this into my gym, and love it. It already comes with the Olympic sleeves and a double to single carabiner attachment as standard. Great build quality and great functionality. Being in the UK it is more expensive (£300) than the Titan equivalent you guys get in the US, but it does come with the additional sleeves and carabiner attachment.
Love the GGR channel guys, keep up the great work.
Wish that was sold here. The double guide rod style looks way superior.
Hi bro I purchased the same from mirafit do you have any idea how much the cable machine can take?
You mentioned to list other cable stations that are wall-mounted, and I just recently purchased the one from ER Kang. It’s very similar to the Titan except it does have dual guide rods at the back which I feel makes it run much smoother. They also include the Olympic weight sleeves, and I paid about 220 bucks on Amazon prime day.
It also included the same handles as a titan with a straight push down bar, lay pull down bar, and triceps rope.
There is also a foot plate that mounts to the front so you could sit down and do floor exercises and brace your feet up against it. I find it excellent for the money and the features.
Have you ever tried this one?
Thanks for your comment. I just watched a review of these and ended up buying two ... there's an Amazon Prime deal for $180 each. When I got up this morning the plan was to buy one, but so many reviewers of these budget machines are saying get two, and at the price point why not. I like the foot pads on the ER Kang, the pulley trolley has rollers, and the dual slider rods.
Just set up my ER Kang in my garage, got her for $180 on Amazon prime day, she’s a beauty, how has yours held up over time?
@@snowball4416 I wonder if you got it from the same seller that I ordered mine from. So it's legit? I ended up cancelling my order because I asked them a question and they answered right away but sent a photo that was clearly not the advertised unit. I ended up buying a Bells of Steel unit with the weight stack, so instead of spending $180 like you did, it was $1,200. I agonized a lot but in the end decided that the benefits to me of getting a weight stack were worth the significantly extra money. That's cool you got the ER Kang one.
I have had a Valor BD-62 (what Titan copied here) mounted on my basement wall since early 2019, does the job. It was $150 back then and they threw in a 2 handle to 1 bracket in their version. I still use it daily in addition to my Rep lat low row, for lighter arm movements.
Same. I've had it for years, and it gets the job done.
The Valor original is now $392 on the Valor site.
@@Brockthedog315 WOW, more than double 4 years later...
Valor one is better I like the round bars for the carriage system over the square
I’ve had this machine for two years now and just love it! Since I’m intending to keep it indefinitely I recently added aluminum pulley wheels which give it a much smoother pull through.
I bought two during the pandemic when they were $179 and made a functional trainer like you suggested and it is absolutely amazing
Awesome! What spacing are you using between them?
@@u8nt4utube Around 64 inches apart. I had them at 113 like a true cable crossover but then I had to make room for another piece of equipment
I'm so glad you guys fixed the crackling audio. Coops soothing voice is back!
I actually think the slim rod option is better because you can always go thicker with a sleeve but you can't really go slimmer and in my case I built my home gym around the first set of dumbbells I got back in HS which uses the small hole plates. If it were a thick rod this wouldn't be an option for me.
I have one and like it quite a bit. I feel like this review pretty much hits the nail on the head. Great video
Ive had mine for a couple of years, back when it was 125$. Other than not hagunv the bottom anchor point this version does, I love it. I have olympic plates for barbell, but also got a bunch of random standard plates so its great to have a set for each
Ive had this cable system for over 5 years and have had zero issues with it. I use it 4-6x a week. If you get this I suggest taking off all the pulleys and grease each bearing.
I had this and used it for a long time. It’s great and I loved it. For the price point it’s super hard to beat. That pop pin for moving the trolly up and down is the machines weakest point the threads stripped not long after buying it.
This is probably the best addition that I have made to my home gym. I have been using it for over a year and it's solid af.
I have 2 of these. Got them early 2021. Got them about 7 feet apart. I use it like a functional trainer/cable cross over. This absolutely fit that cable machine need at a fraction of the price. When I got mine I think they were a lot lower in the price too. I have a separate plate loaded lat pulldown low row from Titan as well.
How smooth are they
@@sweaty_matt121 I think they are pretty smooth imo. Nothing that affects lifting. I once had a single point high low pulley machine that was absolutely horrible. This does the job. If you have a few extra get it with the weight stack. The plate loaded I have work just fine. Stack would just be more convenient.
@@seanbaran5695 thank you but I already decided and ordered a different one. Have a good day!
I have the Archon wall mount cable set and its very similar. Love it
I have this machine. I just set my olympic plates on the 1”bar. Works no problem
Same
I’ve had mine for a year and a half and love it. I want everything I have to be versatile. Like a barbell, plates, rack, and adjustable dumbbells. This can be used for so many movements so I could easily justify it. Not great for chest flys, but I love it for reverse flys.
My home gym is in my basement with extremely low ceilings, but this is compact enough that it fits between the floor joists. I would highly recommended this piece of equipment.
No good for chest flys? Spacing?
@ yeah, the two pulley connections are too close together for chest Flys in my opinion. About three-quarter into the range of motion the cables just end up wrapping around your shoulders.
@@travistice9996 have you seen those improvised setups with a 2x4 strapped to the top and pulleys on each end? Might give you the right clearance for flies, for pretty cheap.
@ Yeah, I have. That’d be a good way around it. I haven’t gotten that far yet. I’ve just been doing single arm flyes
I’ve had my v3 of this over three years now. When I got it I paid under $150! Very good investment.
I use my Olympic steel and bumper plates and don’t have any issues.
I purchased one after the video you did a month ago about building an entire home gym on Amazon. It does what I need it to do, so I am happy with it.
I have the Valor version that has been great for me for the past 3 years. I think the weight capacity is less but it has guide rods so it's pretty smooth. I never understood why more people didn't go this route. It's been one of the most useful budget pieces in my home gym to date.
I’ve had mine for 4 years and love it. I would love some more options like you said if a lat seat was offered.
I will def look into upgrading the pulleys, could be smoother.
A key for my use of this was the height options. The Titan lower height options work in my basement. Most brands only feature stuff too tall for the basement.
I have this in my gym. Been using it for a year and love it! Super easy to use and quickly adjustable. Like you mentioned I wish they had a removable lat pull down seat for it. That would make it complete and I think there would be a big market for it.
Had mine for over 3 years now. Replaced all the pulleys with gym grade pulleys which added about 80 more dollars. Also snapped the cable with about 160 lbs on it and replaced with home depot cable.
Great review! I'd love to see a review of the bells of steel version!
Incoming! - Coop
@@GarageGymReviews oh perfect!
@Garage Gym Reviews cant wait! Thanks!
@@GarageGymReviews I just hope you get the squat rack combo. $725 for a rack and plate loaded FT with pull up is really compelling
@@GarageGymReviews please compare if the aluminum upgrade is worth it!
I brought a similar one from Archon Fitness last year. I like how the weight carriage uses bearings vs bushings. Great addition to my gym.
I saw from other comments the archon fitness. Looks really great. Do you think it's worth the extra 50 or so?
@@CamaronesFuegos Definitely, the bearings give it a smooth pull, I have been using mine for about a 1.5 years and I have no complaints. My big bro has the Titan and is also happy. I think they are both great, but the archon has a smoother pull.
@@CamaronesFuegos I think so, in addition to bearings, it comes with olympic plate adapters and the carriage holes are numbered.
I have been using this (version 2) for the past couple years and love it. I did buy the BD-62 cable attachment clip from Valor for $3 which connects the cables together and instantly became the biggest upgrade to this cable machine. Highly recommend!
I bought the BD-62 secondhand and it didn't have the clip attachment. I used it for over a year without the clip. I finally ordered it and man was it a game changes. Makes the machine so much more versatile!
@@jordanbergman1387 that Bd-62 looks like good quality!
@@CamaronesFuegos I have really enjoyed it! I have it bolted into my concrete foundation and can load it up really heavy if need be. Not as smooth as a higher end version, but gets the job done at a very reasonable price!
Would you happen to have a link to where you purchased that cable attachment clip from?
@@sgread I actually reached out to their customer rep email and was able to get in touch with someone who was able to help me out. I don't think you can buy it directly off their site.
Got it, it's awesome 👌 buy yourself a 4 hole flat T plate at home depot on your clips to separate them and it works even better it separates the cable. Try it!!
Yup I did just that and bought the t bracket from Home Depot. I will add that I cut the bottom of the T to shorten the distance to the connection.
It works great
I have this in my killer garage gym mounted to my rack with custom mounts that I designed. It’s the absolute best accessory in my gym. Don’t buy the sleeves you don’t need them. I routinely stack Olympic weight on the standard sleeve and they don’t ever wobble. I paid less than 200$ and this equipment is something I use daily.
I'd still go for BOS because that can double as a squat rack (yes the holes can hold jcups) they call it the 'Plate Loaded Cable Tower Squat Stand' $725 only real draw back I think it uses their weird 2.3" rack attachments so you're stuck in that ecosystem but at least you have options. Has a pull-up bar and many attachments. A FT with a bonus squat rack is a really nice feature.
@@jamesroalson5269 I think you're going to run into an issue with the PIN/hole size on the attachments as the T2 likely uses 1" holes and I think the holes on the cable system are smaller.
I also have one of these in my apartment gym. It’s freaking amazing IMHO. Completely transformed my at home workouts. All the drawbacks Coop states are accurate, but for me totally worth it.
I got a similar wall mount cable machine during the lockdown, absolutely love it. I set up my bench in front of it and do almost all of my rows on it.
Best piece in my gym next to rack and bar. DYI use a bench with roller to lock in your legs for lat pulls. I actually like the standard rod as it’s easier to pull weights off single handed.
Thank goodness there's a short version. My basement only has 82" of height. Currently having issue looking for a power rack as many are 84" or 87". This will definitely be my next equipment purchase after the rack.
Have this in my home gym and I love it. I would probably go with the Inspire Fitness one from Costco if we had more room. But it fits the space and budget.
Everyone loves the inspire - seems like a great purchase. I got the bodycraft HFT used (which is quite similar) and it is great.
I have the FTX from Costco. It's terrific, and a helluva deal.
I have the inspire rack, bought it when it was $795 (I think), and really like it but wish they had a cable machine like this. So 1or 2 like this will be coming soon
I bought two of these as part of building out my home gym in 2020 specifically to do crossovers and unilateral cable work. I heartily agree with everything said here, especially the benefit of some silicone spray on the carriage pole
I just bought two of these as well… how far do you recommend I put them for crossovers?
@@ScottGarcia I just kind of eyeballed it but I went down and measured and the carriage posts are 52" apart
@@jrssae perfect, thank you!
Thanks to you sir I got mine and it’s in my garage on the wall and I’m one happy customer.
This is great for a beginner lifter or someone look to do high rep light weight cable stuff. I owned this for 2 years and anytime i went heavy at all, one of the plastic pulleys would break or the cheap plastic coated cable would get damaged. Its really not built with longevity in mind so i would definitely recommend getting a pulley system slightly higher quality for any serious lifters. I've swapped to just using a high strength DIY double pulley attached to my rack and its already wayyyyyy better.
I bought this knowing full well it’s a budget purchase. I was still surprised at how low quality it was. The nylon pulleys don’t spin even after lubricating. The pulley carriage on the front grinds against the steel cap in the long cable, so much so that I’m sure it will eventually grind down to the pulley. I wish I had spent the extra for the BOS tower.
BOS tower is over $1k
@ the plate loaded model is $350.
You can bolt pulley across the room and put extra cable to second cable. Then you can do crossovers and flys
I’ve been debating on buying this for a while. After this video, I impulse bought it. Used your link!
This looks identical to the Mirafit wall mounted cable machine I bought recently. Mirafit are a UK company but I wouldn't be surprised if their machine is just a rebranded Titan. But I totally agree with your assessment, mine came with the olympic sleeve adapter, for a total price of £299 and I'm very happy with it for the price. It's not as smooth as a commercial machine in use, but it's a lot better than I expected and I've used some badly maintained cable machines in commercail gyms that were much worse than this. My only other gripe is that because the lower pulley on the upright juts out further than the upper pulley, if you're using it overhead you have to overcome the resistance of the ball on the pulley wheel to pull the cable down or pull the cable out a bit before down. If it's heavily loaded this can make it a bit awkward. I assume there's a good reason they've done it this way, but it's a bit annoying.
Otherwise it's so much better than the cheap rack pulley attachement I've been using for the last 3 years. This is so much more versatile, and allows me to do much more accessory work with it quickly,
I own two of them, and I connected the top of the machines together with a 8 -foot long metal rail and 6-inch corner braces with each machine facing each other , instead of side by side, to make a cheap self-standing functional trainer.
My wife got me one for my bday last week! Best bang for my buck addition to the garage gym!
I bought a Syedee Functional trainer Cable Crossover Machine for $480 and totally regret it😩😩 the darn thing is so clunky, stiff and unstable. Only the pull down and low/flow pull portion on the machine is good. I wish I had seen this before my purchase.
This channel is gold and helped me purchase a good bench though (super bench pro).
If you want to do chest flys on just one of these, attach both carabiners to a bar like the Steadfast multi attachment, use chains or long straps and connect your handles to them and you’ll be good to go.
literally put out a video right when im shopping for one!!!!
THANK YOU
I have that short height version and love it. I wish i had discovered it prior to covid so i could have had a better home gym setup. You can't beat the functionality for the price. It can do 90% of what a real functional trainer can do, but at 1/3 to 1/4 the price. And with su h a small footprint, there is no reason why it shouldn't be added to someone's home gym. I bought a cheap suspension trainer (trx knock off) and use those for the handles in place of the stock ones.
Got the bells of steal twin set! Absolutely changes the whole “home gym” narrative !
Been planning to DIY a pin-loaded cable system onto my Rogue R-3 rack, but man this would make my life easier and probably cost the same or less...
Liking the video for the intro alone lol. Got me.
Thank you for this video!! I wasn’t sure about going with a cheap option. After watch this I just ordered one on Amazon. Says 11gauge steel, has 2” adapters and has a two rounded pole slide for weight trolly. $179. Has two footplates and 18 height adjustments. Includes basic attachments.
ER Kang brand or something similar to that. It actually seems a bit nicer than this one. Reviews seem pretty good for what it is.
I’m currently using a Bowflex Extreme SE I got on marketplace for $100. I’m newer to all this and the bowflex has been great but the tension is different than free weights and I didn’t understand that early on. Seemed like a cheap all around option. Gonna try to get $200 on marketplace for it and consider it a straight up swap. we’ll see. If nothing else, I’ll poach the pulleys, leg extension and cables from it to make something there’s like a dozen pulleyes I could sell them for $10/each and more than break even lol
I bought one a few months ago and I agree with all of your points. Great machine, could be better but for the price point, I'm very happy with it. I do like the idea of buying a second and pairing it with my original. Cost savings and increase in versatility make this a great idea. I will add the Olympic adaptive sleeve once they get back in stock.
Always enjoy and appreciate the content 👍
I just bought one of these. I'm so excited
Looks legit if you are on a budget and even tight on space, but something to be said to saving for that special piece you do want that isn't a huge compromise.
I just ordered this. Excited to get it in my home gym I’m building. But yes I hope or wish Titan came out with a lat pulldown seat for this.
That to 2 to 1 and 1 to 1 ratio sold me. It's nice to be able to get longer movements and shorter heavier with so little of a change.
It looks like they did nail the sweet spot there with price v. functionality. I like that it's wall mounted and you don't have to bolt it to the ground as well.
Been waiting on something like this, thanks!
I'm not a big fan of plate loaded machines but this looks nice. Really like your tip of combining two together
for the money and what it does, this is the best on the market. I have one that I purchased for 179 pre-covid. I'm kicking my-self I didnt buy the second one I want to make a functional trainer. I will change the pulleys at some point.
I have over 500lb in standard plates that barely gets any use, so it makes me happy when I see machines with options to load 1" plates lol.
This is the same as the valor fitness bd-62 and several other makers. I used one for two years with a half rack and it is great. Very versatile.
I am intrigued - love the small footprint. Thanks for the review!
Awesome product! I got this cable machine in my garage gym. Highly recommended!
My main gripe with the Titan unit is that the holes do not go higher on the front-upright. I personally own one from Valor Fitness and its better in my opinion. granted, you are spending a bit more, but I think its worth it for such a versatile tool in a home gym.
Good to know this is out there.
Love this thing, I drilled a couple holes (about 3/8”) on the back of the front post and made a makeshift lay pulldown. Plenty strong and works great, just don’t tell TF
I'm happy Titan sent this product is so GGR could do a commercial of approval. If you say things on Facebook and it's not approved by the certain UA-cam personalities than people will jump in with their attacks even when they don't even own the product. Some people have different budgets and I continue to relate that information but it doesn't matter because they want you to have a Maserati regardless of your zip code. I have one and it is attached to my inexpensive power rack. I wish you would have shown that as well but if you look on UA-cam you can see someone who has done it. This is a great product. It is very versatile and it's pretty much all you need unless you want to use the idea of getting two so you can have more options of exercises. Good job Coop. Now when I see this on Facebook I don't have to be afraid to make a positive comment or do I
Personally I bought the valor fitness version. Basically same thing except the carriage system is round bars instead of square. Way smoother and they give you a piece to connect both pulleys together.
Great video. Definitely buying this!
Make your own Olympic to standard adapters using 1 1/2" x 3/4" plumbing parts (Reducer) and some white duct tape. It's easy. I just did it last night and it works great. Cheap too.
Have had 1 of these for a few years now and it has worked great!! Only issue I have is that after about the first year, the insulation on the main cable started coming off in several sections. Not a huge deal but just annoying having to replace it after such a short period.
Thanks sir, added to my wish-list! EDIT: Great idea on going with 2, crossover action is definitely standard for me.
I have the version 1
And I use it for lat pull down and etc plus I use the 2.1 & 1.1 ratio great cable for the price I attached it the rack solid peice of equipment
I bought this unit for $75 on Offerup from a guy that his mother in law was pressuring him to clear the garage. Sweet Sweet Deal!!
Coop! I bought this pulley system last year to rehab after shoulder surgery. It's been a game-changer. The 2:1 and 1:1 becomes intuitive when you own it and upgrading components over time is certainly on the table. I have noticed a big problem, however - it's the plastic guide on the stack - it simply comes off. This has resulted in scratches in the metal it travels along. I've contemplated using epoxy to keep it attached to the metal weight-shuttle, but am uncertain of the long-term consequences of doing so. Any helpful ideas you have (or can glean from Titan) would be very welcome.
As to the 1" plate loading - it was a great way for me to start as I have Ironmaster DBs and was able to use the weights for this until I could add Olympics for it.
The fact that it can take 1 inch plates is a huge positive. More people looking for a budget option will have 1 inch plates, props to them for recognising that.
I wouldnt be spending $35 for the adapters either. You could just MacGyver some adapters with stuff laying around your home if it was that much of an issue.
I love it have used for 3 years but wish the crossover was a little wider. Saw a diy on how to do it with the bells of steel version. You should do one with the titan
Nice review Coop..and I really like the idea of buying 2 and mounting them to be more like a cable crossover for the price
I have the Valor version. So much functionality in a small footprint! And if you have some old 1" plates laying around, clean 'em up and you're good to go.
i always think that cable machines are all what you need at home gym, you can do chest back shoulders traps triceps biceps forearms abs, you can also go for legs with some additional parts
thx for the review
Thanks for a great review! Like most garage gym owners, I'm limited for space. I have a heating duct intersecting at the wall next to the stud where I would mount this unit. So, no clearance issues for the 25" required at the base but I'm very limited for space at the top of the unit. The very top of the unit looks to be shaped a bit like a "T". How wide is that at the widest point?
I have an injured wrist so cables is what I can do for chest. Thanks for the review
Can you do a bells of steel review and comparison
For similar price, you could buy the Valor Fitness BD-62 which is the exact same machine, except it has a guide rod and hence likely smoother
i too have it. for the price its great. if you're taller it might be a bit short for you, i'm 5'11". but works great.
Nice review as always. Can you buy something to swap out the plastic part for the guide rod to make it more smooth? 😊