Act of Defiance on Leaving Megadeth & Recording 'Birth and the Burial'
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Chris Broderick and Shawn Drover talk about why they left Megadeth to form Act of Defiance, how they came up with the band name, and how quickly they recorded 'Birth and the Burial.'
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They both did an honorable job bringing us the Megadeth sound we love. I saw them live and was not disappointed. Both are great musicians and that’s what we need, more music and more flavors. But who’s heard of a drummer and guitarist leaving MD? Lol
and afterward the next megadeth album took the grammy...
i was just going to say that lol
Talk bout looking stupid! 😖🤣
AMEN !
These two really made Megadeth boring!
@@yakuzaohtani3631 endgame was amazing
I bet anyone sacked from Megadeth has to sign a silence contract not to spill any beans, Wouldn't surprise me one bit.....fucking music business
I do happen to be a very big fan of Megadeth and yes I am aware of the ego that Dave Mustaine has for himself. After I listened to Act of Defiance, I could see what they meant by expressing themselves musically because its a little different than what Megadeth has put out there. Shawn and Chris are both talented and it's their decision to quit if they aren't happy. Sometimes if you're involved in a group where you feel limited and then begin to do your own thing, then you'll understand fully on why these two did it.
And in comes Kiko Loureiro and helps Dave write 3 of the best tracks on Dystopia and in Megadeth's catalogue. He even plays the solos better than all the previous guitarists, especially during live shows. He even writes better solos that sound more Megadeth since the Marty Friedman days.
What ego? Dave the boss and people respect it.
Left megadeth to create a generic metal band with a shitty name
You can't expect something different with a drummer as limited as Shawn
Using megadeth's name for thier own interest to promote that shitty band... Sorry Chris......
It's one thing to have total freedom to express oneself musically and it's quite another to be able to express oneself with certain boundaries in place. Any musician can do the former but only the great ones can achieve the latter. Kiko and Dirk were able to express themselves within the confines of Megadeth's music which makes them greater musicians than Chris and Shawn. So I'm happy how everything turned out.
Kiko and Dirk they have taken their playing into a new level and current Megadeath band line up is amazing they get along very well....kiko the best guitarist in Megadeath history along with Dave and Dirk his playing is lot similar to Gars very easy going guy always saw him smiling
Gaurav Saikia i love Kiko but you can’t put him above Marty
Marty was by far the best guitarist Dave's had throughout the years!!
you dont even know the name of the band 🤣
No difference to anyone else, celebrity or not , if you’re not happy in your job, you move on.
They both made the right decision.
Both great musicians? Yes
Both contributed new stuff to Megadeth? Yes
Still good musicians after Megadeth? Yes
Deserving of the hate? No
Chris's arms... 0_0
Your absence improved Megadeth
Great stuff, Chris what's your exercise routine , maybe share with Dave 🏋️
I love Megadeth but am also happy Chris and Shawn left. They put their passion first. That’s what music is about. Anyone that trashes them for doing so knows nothing about being a musician or are just pissed they left. Act of Defiance is an awesome group. Let’s just look back at Dave’s career with Metallica. If he hadn’t of gotten kicked out of the band we would have no Megadeth. That would be a-shame. They didn’t leave in the middle of recording and they’ve been absolute professionals when it comes to understanding that Megadeth is Megadeth. That’s the music you will be preforming. Good for them!
fun fact everyone always forgets: even MUSTAINE said he wasn't the right fit for Metallica, and would've QUIT eventually. He wanted his OWN band, and that's understandable, since Metallica was LARS' band first and James' second.
It's a great album. Musicially it's good, I just didn't care for the vocals all too much. But still a great record.
it's amazing how many metal bands don't realize having a UNIQUE vocalist (and some melody) really matters! I've heard many metal bands who sound GREAT...and then the singer comes in and does GENERIC cookie monster or other generic vocals.
Mustaine, Ozzy, Lemmy, Halford, Gillan, DLR, Hetfield, Araya, Belladonna, and ALL OF THEM ARE INSTANTLY identifiable in 2 seconds!
IF YOU ARE IN A METAL BAND, your SINGER is actually the most critical piece. If you can't find a GREAT one... then go instrumental and blow my mind with killer music.
@@dumpygoodness4086 Phil Anselmo :D
@@dumpygoodness4086 ok boomer
@@GeorgeZimmermen no dummy, YOU are the boomers, playing DAD metal with your generic DAD vocals.
@@GeorgeZimmermen is this your first time using the "words"?
I'm a fan of Chris, bought "Birth and the Burial" and even seen the new band twice on tour. I find it very unfortunate to see him slipping into obscurity. The 2 shows I saw, one was in Denver and the other was in Colorado Springs. The Denver show was opened by two bands. One was "Smack Factor" and the other was "Allegaeon" and apparently everybody was there for Allegaeon because once they finished their set half the place emptied out leaving Act of Defiance playing to a small crowd. The show in Colorado Springs was also in front of a very small crowd. I hope their next album is amazing and they bring in a second guitarist to make their live sound larger.
Oh yeah, the story regarding them leaving Megadeth is totally different then the one I've heard. Story is Dave Ellefson was talking about trying to bring back Nick Menza and Marty to the band following Super Collider and once Shawn and Chris got wind of this they left the band.
I always felt Broderick and Poland could legit go toe to toe with Mustaine.
good choice...heavier music...love it....Birth and the Burial....
----and they made theyr own burial....
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broderick is an insane guitar player but his song writing not really that great
The man has just said that Dave does not let their creativity be fully expressed. Shawn and Broderick are 2 awesome players. I don’t know about it as far as creativity goes cause I did not hear their record.
I'm watching this and thinking " why am I watching this? I don't care that they left, because MEgadeth ended up with players that have lots of flavor. These two ended up being very vanilla. Even Chuck and Jeff from the SFSGSW album were a better fit for Megadeth. Good Riddance.
There is nothing negative or even surprising being said here. Megadeth is Dave's band and any little bit of creative input accepted by his subordinates will always be done so purely to his liking. Clearly, both of these guys were honored to play with such a legendary Musician/band, but no one with songwriting aspirations would want to do that forever. It was just time for them to move on to their own creative endeavors and open the door for a couple more lucky musicians to eagerly take their spots.
I wonder how they would sound if Glenn Drover as rhythm/lead guitarists
Glenn can flat out play..family was more important to him than fame and being in Megadeth.....gotta respect that but dude shreds and is a clean player! I would say he could add some serious depth to this AOD thing
That would be cool to see act of defiance do a song or two with shawns brother. I believe it would be the first time they would since united abominations.
Glenn Drover was in MD before these guys, lol.
I thought Chris was more smart than that, how can you get "heavier" than Megadave? I am glad Shawn left since he had not soul and Mega looked boring and slow with him on the drums.
It´s not like they joined Slayer, did they?
They left because god wanted Chris and Kiko in the band.
Here, god means Dave Mustaine
Bah bah bah ha ha he ha yeah
Nah , Ron lafitte did the mayhem .
And when they discovered that megadeth attempted to reform RIP line up , while probably true reasons they express in the video as well as much , they leaved .
Shawn , really i saw a drum clinic , i was totally taken by Surprise .
The Guy is great.
Its Like Discovering who Dave holland really were on drums in Trapeze and stuff Outside of Judas Priest .
So maybe he had pressures
Who knows
For the people who are bitching over these guys, listen this video and understand how they say that they had material that was never going to be released under Megadeth, also that Mustaine does not give proper rights on the compositions, people like Mustaine so much that they do forget what an asshole and a dictator he is.
Let's remember how people like Menza who say that Megadeth was "Dave's dream" had to fight with him for his own creations.
Besides look at Kiko how he cannot even speak on the interviews and is always relegated to a second place, you can see how he does not speak about Dave on his channel etc Chris has Endgame and 13 then supercollider arrived Marty had RIP, Countdown, Youthanasia and CW before Risk and being blamed by Dave over its failure, Glen and Poland did not even last enough.
To the seven people who like this band...enjoy.
Rise of Rebellion that song alone tears off your head and shit down your neck!!!!....
I'm glad these two left, I've been rooting for it for quite some time, long before it actually happened. Broderick is a solid guitar player, no one in the right mind could ever deny that, but he always looked like a metro sexual metalhead to me. On the other hand, Shawn looked like a bear who hits his drums too lightly. And I guess he forgot that his third live gig ever was with Megadeth... Anyway, the current Megadeth line-up is 10 times better than with these two.
PeRuN the Riffmeister no fucking way criss brought new life to the band nobody can replace Marty but criss came close
PeRuN the Riffmeister i agree!!
@@garyrock1854 And Kiko and Dirk brought the grammy!
Good smart move for the both of them
Nevermore please
Thank you both for leaving. We all agree, it was the right time 😂
Broderick...amazing guitar player....hell of a backing vocals....shawn.....as a drummer....he is ok....I guess
They sound like they just had a great escape from some sort of a cult practice. Lol!! Leaving MD makes one ask 'who are these two people?'
finally i realize its just dave defending megadeth music. thats why these guy left.
Great Audio
Does anyone know where in ct the drum tracks were recorded?
Chris have a point the records were they played in megadeth even get a gold status.now they can do anything they want except only can play in clubs despite big arenas.
Enjoy realizing Dave and David are the talent.
Endgame was amazing
Great choice about leaving megadeth, now you are free to create your personal music without the stress of the others.
About "Act of defiance" i listen more crativity of Shawn and Chris. Good job guys!!
3:25 ..not for him, but was for M. Friedman, though, who created the lead guitar sound for Megadeth. Those broad brush solos by Broderick didn't cut the mustard, that's for sure. Notes, notes, notes and more notes, instead of feel, notes, nuance, and feel along. Proper phrasing, in other words, not with a metronome.
+LuckyLicks Feel is in the ear of the beholder.I get just as much of a rush from hearing someone shred with complete technicality as I do from someone who bends strings.I love to hear what someone who has worked their ass off for years can do. It's like classical musicians don't work that hard and then play blues lol
I'm just saying there's a good reason Marty had his place in Megadeth, maybe because of the pizzazz..
LuckyLicks
Well Marty certainly is unique.I love his style wherever he is. To me his time with Megadeth was so great not just because of him in general but the contrast of the two styles.Marty with his exotic phrasing and smooth playing and Dave with his dirty aggressive playing.
At any rate I just love hearing what different people do with the same instrument.
And for sure Marty has great stage presence!
chris is a super super talented guitarist, one of the best in the metal world.... but i agree that Marty is better... he is just one of those people who come along once in a blue moon and just have magnificent sound in their playing and unbelievable note selection. i suppose its not really fair to compair chris with marty.
Nobody cares. so many x Megadeth guys have said yeah there was so much stuff I wanted to do that I just couldn't do and I was so capable of doing more and it's like well how come nobody gives a crap about that stuff. Like they think they're better than Dave it's like dude don't b******* yourself you guys just got tired of dealing with him.
Happy for them, escaping the monotony of Mustaine. Insanely great players and happy they get to breathe.
Love AoD and the guitar work is awesome.
Mustaine must be difficult to work with. Look at all the talent that came in & out of the Megadeth thru the years. I like Dave & Megadeth but working for them could be another matter.
You both shouldn't leave Megadeth.. just play n grab ur pay...big mistake..I..I won't leave..big band,big name.. Megadeth
but being in a BIG BAND is never fun. It's BORING. worse than working at a 9-to-5 job! (B/c it takes your escape -- music -- and turns it into a 24 hour DAY JOB!) EX: doing the same songs EVERY NITE wears thin very quickly. EX: Metallica does NOT tour b/c it's fun (it's not fun for most humans). THEY ONLY TOUR, they say, to $upport their gigantic entourage and tour crew, who are like family to them. YIKES!
THE GRASS IS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE.
Being rich and famous is FAR worse than being poor and unknown, in 80% of categories.
LISTEN TO STYX's song "THE GRAND ILLUSION", ha ha, for all you need to know.
did chris color his hair or something?
Heavier than Megadeth? Ok, what was the real reason?
1) You are correct: the OFFICIAL story has never once been true in human history.
(FUN FACT: Everyone believes the SUPER-LIE that Pink Floyd founder Syd Barrett was ditched from his OWN band (!) b/c he was an LSD casualty... but we know that's a TOTAL LIE b/c all my friends took loads of acid and NOT ONE has a single lingering side effect; and we REALLY now it's a lie b/c the Official Story has NEVER been true in human history, PLUS Syd was the Cobain of the band: MISCHIEVOUS... and he didn't like the plasticity of the Music Biz, so he'd prank everyone when on Big TV SHOWS, while lipsyncing. DICK CLARK and other INDUSTRY GOONS told the others "Syd is going to HURT your career as his pranks don't please us", and THAT is why PF ditched him from his OWN band! THIS is why the band always talks about Syd and writes songs about him: GUILT. And now, nearing death, PF's drummer has started to say in interviews "i don't think the acid was the MAIN problem... I think it was more INDUSTRY PRESSURE" (!!!) Checkmate!!!)
2) It's ALMOST always about MONEY issues, or EGO issues (EX: Sharon Osbourne would have YOU write all the songs, and then she tells you "you're only getting 5% of the credit for YOUR work! We're taking the rest!" THE ENTIRE MACHINE is corrupt in ways like that.) ...but I can imagine MUSTAINE is a TOUGH BOSS, b/c he's actually really smart but also brutally honest. (I'm sure he was tough on them: "that lead is WEAK. try again")
BY COMPARISON, Kiko has so many skills (ex: even flamenco guitar etc) that Mustaine finally has a guitarist who is SUPERIOR to Dave's playing!
I would leave the band too if Dave Mustaine forced me to play Super Collider songs 😖
Lol
I personally really enjoyed the vocals. kinda gave me a Goatwhore vibe sometimes which is great. great band IMO
Awesome 👍
Endgame is a great record.
Chris was never megadeth.
Can’t remember one good solo or rhythm he wrote that stuck in my head.
Whereas glenn drover with just one album was able to leave a mark
Everyone lefts Megadeth for the same reason, I don't know if they are saying the truth(not only Chris and Shawn) but shit, seems like Mustaine does everyone song and let guitars do their solos and that's it.
Sort of, part of the reason Marty left was because Mustaine recorded Breadline's solo which replaced Marty's solo, the rest of it being was creative differences with Mustaine's direction - Megadeth was losing some of it's "heaviness" and Marty wanted to keep up musically with newer bands that were becoming heavier and faster.
With Megadeath you are an employee and “at will.” Unless you form your own band you and Marty will never be happy creatively.... no brainer....
Im glad some true megadeth fans know the truth
The lack of self creativity was the reason Marty left
that effects MOST bands!
EX: the Beatles fell apart b/c PAUL was a better musician than the other 3 combined. So every time George would try to record his LEAD GUITAR parts, they'd waste HOURS and he couldn't come up with anything. (He was the Kirk Hammett of The Beatles!) So then George Martin would say "Let's let PAUL give it a shot"... and Paul would immediately lay down a killer solo and they'd be DONE. You can imagine how George, Ringo, and John RESENTED Paul's talents etc. They also said they came to hate him BECAUSE he was "always right"!! YIKES!
TO MAKE GREAT MUSIC... YOU MUST BREAK SOME EGGS (hurt some feelings, to raise the Quality Control). That's WHY most movies, tv shows, bands SUCK. Coddling untalented people or weak ideas.
@@dumpygoodness4086 *BAM*
they need a better vocalist!!
Oh Brother I feel you!!!!! I liked their music, but their vocals o god nooooo
This particular line up was very talented & so continues the Megadeth roller coaster of band members that Dave Mustaine continues to keep on doing. Shawn & Glen Drover are Canadian & reside in Toronto or the G.T.A. which is huge, but I loved it when Shawn & Glen Drover were in Megadeth together for the sole reason that their Canadian as well as amazing musicians obviously. But if Shawn Drover & Chris Broderick thought that they were going to ride the coat tails of being former Megadeth members & making it big per say then that’s highly unlikely & no disrespect to Shawn & Chris because there both sic musicians in there own right & the cool thing about Shawn Drover is that he can play lead guitar just as well as he can drum as well as his brother Glen Drover which is super cool & it’s kinda like being bilingual with your language in which can open up a lot more doors for you 😃. Anyways take care metal heads & remember ~~~> Type O Negative & Carnivore are the best bands on planet 🌎 NO HOPE=NO FEAR ~>
Rest easy Peter Ratajczyk Steele ~>
Bruh why every time I see Shawn in a interview he look uncomfortable ass fuck.
Lol Shawn looks bored whenever Chris is talking, he seems to just stare elsewhere. Good luck on your second album!
basically Shawn thought he could pull a reverse Mustaine and leave before he got fired and go on to make a bigger better band, HA! this next song is called THE RIGHT TO GO INSANE.
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I just hate how Dave proclaims his guitarist is the greatest ever then they dump him and all of a sudden he's not do great the new guy is the greatest of all time.
Kiko is easily the most diverse player Dave has ever hired. He's also super nice, or so he seems on the net.
@@kamaboko1 HA: every time my EX-GF breaks up with a dude, she finds her "DREAM MAN" within a week! EVERY TIME! (later, it turns out he was a "loser" and she was totally wrong! RINSE. REPEAT.)
@@kamaboko1 Kiko is insanely talented. Super clean slow or fast lol
They got fed up with mustaines bullshit plain and simple. Plus I bet money had ALOT to do with it... mustaine is only interested in HIRING session players.. he doesn't think long term.. which is why he's in the situation he is now.....
Chris....have you have ever thought of getting some classes with Kiko?
ahahahahahahahahaah
He send you a Hug and he thank you for that decision....eheheheheh
looks Chris lost weight and shawn gained it lol
I though the same thing shawn reminds me jon oliva of savatage
If I were a gambling man I'd say it's more that Mustaine wasn't paying them well and not giving them album credits
You could have done a side project or sat and talked with dave and david instead you chose the coward way and just quit.for me thats not cool.look what david eleffson has done on the side .Idont like the direction of your music anyway it is not what i expected..I love the new lineup , it is full of life and fire,megadeth rules .my opinion people dont trash me.
That's actually quite funny looking back on the past year. Kiko Loureiro practically does a UA-cam channel on the side and played in a very light brazillian band called Angra, came in with little thrash metal/heavy metal experience, but helped write 3 of the best songs on Dystopia. Then comes Chris Adler and he played for 2 bands at the same time and still made it work. Chris even got Megadeth a better drummer before he left.
Kiko has done all he could on his own to make a name for himself and Megadeth is an opportunity for him to really showcase his talent and he has done that already, in my books. He understands the direction Megadeth is going and how to make the music better. Excuses are excuses. Seasoned musicians don't make excuses, they know what their capabilities are. I really can't wait for the next album because I reckon it's going to be the best record 'Deth has put out since Rust in Peace.
no man im sayin ya think playin for megadeth would be greati understand not playin your own music im going through that myself.being creative is what its all about so good luck to them
Alfred Ferrarini Unfortunately these guys are about as generic as every other metal band out there. If they're happy being generic and playing in bars, then more power to them. But if they expect to make it big, then they're in for a rude awakening because Chris may be a great technical lead guitarist, but he has about as much creativity and originality as a varnished 2x4.
+DoomPowerMetal thanks for the chuckle dude I have always thought that.even his sound is flat.no truer statement u take care good luck with you do .
Hahah I see, but whats a 2 by 4?
Good riddance! I was wondering what happened to those two robots Megadeth had that never stood out and made Megadeth sounds boring and sterile.
Let me guess their new " creative" effort is probably mediocre @ best, & will probably fade n2 a sea of 4gotten bands & lp's! In a year or2 I bet they start looking @ their paychecks & r like " Hey Dave, u wouldnt b looking 4 any guitarists or drummers would ya??"
he didn't like being 2nd to dave...pure arrogance
@@willkemler321 yeah playing clubs is alot better than headlining & co-headling festivals around th world! 😖
@@gizzy2403 both STINK. Turns music from FUN... into a Day Job / Night Job. Same songs EVERY nite gets stale in under a week.
GRASS IS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE.
Also, while I find Act of Defiance a SNORE, so is Ed Sheeran.
YOU DON'T GET SUCCESSFUL B/C YOU MAKE GREAT MUSIC.
The industry is 110% RIGGED TOP TO BOTTOM.
Ed Sheeran was an INSTANT super-star despite nothing special. It's called PAYOLA...
Theres two rejects are still around lol wtf
Megadeth has too many politics in terms of making music 😆
They went through 20 possible names and the best name they came up was "Act of Defence " hahahaha
Same alibi with Broderick's former band. Their new band sucks, no offence. You used megadeth to build your brand. However, in the process you can't replicate pantera (esque) music. The creative freedom and concept sucks and distasteful except for some solo. No offence...
minza is far better
I’m so glad Shawn left the band! Worst Megadeth drummer ever.
shawn es idéntico a Daryl Dixon xd
These guys can't sell out a 7-11 parking lot.
still, that's a bit unfair. EX: The Beatles, Pink Floyd, U2, and most of them ADMIT THEY HAD TO CHEAT to get success!! (EX: almost every song you ever heard on the radio was PAID TO BE THERE. That's illegal, and called PAYOLA. Even ten years ago the AG of NY had to bust more radio stations for this CHEATING.)
ANY WHERE there is MONEY / POWER / FAME / or SEX... the human race is CHEATING b/c everyone wants those gold rings!
I think these two entered megadeth when Mustaine was on some dumb shit the albums were fucking boring. Some shit on endgame was cool but that was about it. They just entered the band at the wrong time.
Left Megadeth to actually make a shitty record
U can play but u can't compose good musics
and you have shitty grammer !!!
Act of No one cares
Sad to see Chris not in Megadeth.. Chris is better than Kiko live.. Kiko is more creative though so it turned out to be okay... But seriously Shawn Drover sucks!!! no energy on stage and fucks up alot!! Glad that Shawn left
Aminkaza Are you serious? I saw Megadeth on June 30 and Kiko is fucking awesome live!
I didn't say that he sucks.. I just think that Chris is better and never misses any notes in the solos.. but Kiko is cool I like him.. he certainly is a better writer that Chris
“Chris is better than Kiko live”, I give up of internet for this month LFMAO
Yuri Muniz I meant his playing is more accurate.. Doesn't miss a single note.. And to be honest Chris is the only guitar player who plays Marty's solos live perfectly without changing anything to make them easier
Wish I was as great as Chris, but Kiko gave megadeth their first Grammy. It’s a win-win for both party. As long as they’re happy with the direction where they’re going
vocals need to change like for real idk why but so far every act of defiance song ive herd starts out great then vocals come in and the guitars parts start to jus sound generic and make chris seem like a chump jus starting out to make a name for himself its a shame really ...... maybe with time the band will get better but as it sounds now i feel like it needs much work
Chris was popular long before Megadeth though with Nevermore.
I think he was just tired of Mustaine writing everything himself and poo-pooing his ideas; I don't think it has anything to do with him trying to make a name for himself.
But yeah...The leads are great but the rhythms are generic and the vocalist seems to lack the ability to do anything other than distorted / screamed vocals all the time, which gets quite cumbersome.
thats what i mean hes already made a name for himself but this new band doesnt do him justice if i were to compare his sound in act of defiance would be the equivalent to a garage band just berly making it to the big league lol
this is how i see it act of defiance(starting out), Jag Panzer(ok getting the hang of this ), then nevermore/megadeth (k now we in a band) lol
+rougue dahlia I can't agree with the garage band comparison...this music is not easy to play and it's super tight, I don't think you could hear this kind of talent from a garage band...it's very generic at times though.
Literally the most generic looking "metal band" of all time.