Spartan, if you want please make a tutorial of how to use the save editors to buff guns! It is very simple. Basically, if the gun has a part that increases its damage, you can infinitly insert it on a gun to buff it. I like doing this to something like the cutsman, to buff them to be strong, which is a lot of fun
Yeah, i was thinking that it ain't that bad, there are better snipers for sure but if you are don't have a full set of things yet and are just playing thru the story, Malak's Bane is now worth its weight in gold, quite frequent world drop too. Once you got better snipers it of course goes into the trashbin.
Lucian's Call is fun on mobs, particularly the cryo version, but it's useless on bosses, at least M11. Even with the fire version, Joey Violet or whatever he's called is 10 minutes plus of just holding the trigger and keeping it pointed at his head. Never have to reload, never have to care about the adds. But it goes through 4 of those big joeys before it gets the job done. That's over 5000 rounds fired. Same with that stag boss whoever it was, and the Capt Haunt. Rowan's Call, with 2.5x the damage of the Lucian's Call, is what I use now. Harder to keep on target, and the smaller clip means it runs out more often, but at least it gets the job done faster. Still not useful for bosses. But fun for everything before them.
@@user-AdamSmith tbh i feel like it's fine that some weapons are only good for either mobbing or bossing, it sort of gives them personality and makes them more enjoyable for me, and it avoids having too many weapons that can just tear through everything without effort. That way you have to at least change weapons depending on what you're doing
@@user-AdamSmith i mean yeah but with a radiation rowans call i have beat ever boss including anathema and scourge and hemovorous you just can only hit crits and have a build that isnt ass
Screw that fix the goddamn game purple and blues are next to useless even on Mayhem that they're higher on some legendaries aren't worth s*** and I love some of the purple and blue weapons they're just not worth it anymore the whole games unbalanced
@@darthnecrosaberjacobrandal4247 1. Most purples are fine. Blues (w/o red text) are not supposed to work on mayhem levels since it's end game activity. 2. Red text purples and blues to need anoitments (idk about buffs since unfortunately that's not what they're for, I'd love to use the ice queen for example) 3. The game is unbalanced indeed, like all bl games. They're focusing on things but adding power creep all the time, we need to be patient given how well theyre doing with the hotfixes and patches.
@@STALKER777LK purples should let you kill a boss in a 10 min not an hour and legendary should not be weaker than purple otherwise it wouldn't make sense to let them be legendary.
at that moment it was a necessary nerf. But after the mayhem scaling situation, it does deserve to get its 4th projectile back the accuracy does not need to be reverted tho
@@darealkenshi I talked about the nerf specifically If we are going to do more the damage needs to be buffed since the new scaling is gross. I just dont know if doubling is smart since night hawking is a consistent damage gun and the crossroads is a burst damage gun. But I see where you come from.
You forgot the Alchemist. It also kills you if you shoot it and it does absolutely horrible damage itself. Moze can use it with her splash damage bonuses, but she can make almost anything that has splash work that way, so its not really a hight bar to get over.
Will it nuke her if she's using her skag den/green monster though - because Alchemist COULD be useful then since it does splash and is an AR with a high fire rate/mag size.
I'm suprised that the Quadomizer or the Chandelier didn't even make into the list. That E-Tech shotgun nerf from a while ago really effected the Chandelier and ruined it.
@@heythere4858 The re-roll machine coming this 8 will allow it to get annointments as well as the other unannointed weapons like the seventh sense, linc and Reynah.
@@luckylunch3256 Are you sure we can reroll an anoint on these weapons ? I say you can only change an existing one not add one to a weapon but i hope i'm wrong.
@@musichowl yeah, they did, but good luck finding one. Because I hear that even on mayhem 10 there's still only A CHANCE for it to drop with an anoint. So far, I haven't come across one yet
I wonder if Frozen Devil is a reference to Mei from Overwatch. The gun has two firing modes, a beam of ice and an ice dart and the name, Mei has been a meme forever, referred to as 'The Devil' because of the contrast between her cuteness and ability to really ruin a player's day.
Superball anyone? Uncontrollable random balls, that may or may not hit your desired target, or any target for that matter, and even if they do they barely do enough incendiary damage to light a fart.
I feel like the gimmick weapons were a lot easier to have fun with in BL2 and Pre-Sequel Also I'm still a HUGE fan of the Rowan's Call on Amara at least
I think all of the legendary weapons should get a huge buff and lower the drop rate. Im bummed that there are even legendary weapons that are worse then purple weapons.
I've always liked the Woodblocker myself. The ammo consumption is easy to counter; I always have a cutpurse equipped on most characters or on Moze I use an ammo regen build. You can get it with up to 142% crit damage which really gives it some power.
The Binary Operator actually one-shots enemies that have 50,000 or less health, so it isn't a weapon that should be used mid or late game, but early game maybe.
I really see no issue with the Rowan's/Lucian's Call, they are amazing guns with the right elements and i have no idea why the ones in that recording were so bad
As a veteran of borderlands (been playing it since the first) all I can say is look at what they did to my boy . In bl1 the dot stacked and wrecked everything , in bl2 it did okay but most guns did okay without slag.
@@jakecard981 between pc , ps3 and ps4 I got close to 20k hours invested in the series played far too much back in the day not as much now play maybe 2-4 hours a day farming gear most of my characters are at 60 still with the exception of my amara.
The thing that really shows how much the Malak's Bane sucks is that you cannot make it work in Arms Race. Like, I've had several items from this list drop in Arms Race and they just tear through it since the scaling is a lot less agressive, like the Wave just straight-up one-shots most mobs there. The Malak's Bane on the other hand... nah, you're better picking up a random blue sniper or something simular.
The Boring Gun: Oh you- Oh you thought I was gonna be on the list? HAW HAW....HAW 🤣🤣🤣 And side note, you are ABSOLUTELY correct about damage scaling on Mayhem modes. Unless you're modded or have god rolled gear, you go down faster than a baby momma around tax season.
I truly don’t understand Gearbox. A gun like the Crossroads, Rowan’s Call or Lucians Call have been fan favourites. But Gearbox hasn’t (truly) addressed them to make them viable. They’ll buff a gun like the Hellwalker and just make it god tier, while other guns buffs don’t even make them worthwhile at Mayhem 5. It’s almost like they’re stubborn and just childishly don’t want to admit their game has flaws.
I believe is tht some guns are so crazy they dont know how to balance them around their gimmicks (although some are obviously underpowered since the design so... maybe is lack of touch lol)
The TK's Wave has gotten better with the damage buff. But the issue it suffers from now is hit reg. Like i'll run up to a slow fat boss and watch all the pellets phase through it. When the pellets do connect they do a decent chunk of damage.
Many of the weapons here have received a buff, malak's bane is now very decent and Rowan's Call does a ton of damage now, i think it is one of the highest DPS from regular world drop items but has its recoil pumped up so much that you want to use it like a semi-auto.. but is is like a bad semi-auto that sometimes fires too many bullets and kicks your barrel to the sky. If you could switch it to semi-auto mode for medium and long distance targets, it wouldn't be that bad.
The pain is power/ embrace the pain aren’t bad weapons, but putting them on the list isn’t fair especially when you realize you can pair it with an embers blaze to reduce the burn damage to yourself by around 84%, the polybius projectiles deal splash making it better on moze than amara and it should be used like a long muskets reload effect in where you use the leg turrets than the actual weapon, hellfire is still better than the boomer, the creeping death is meant to be used as a traditional tediore or you shoot the ground and reload if the reload hits a target the bombs will home on the target and blow up at once
I'm not a big player, I only play when going to a friend's house. Yesterday I went there. We played for hours, and we were trying to build something that could take on the maliwan takedown (not even true takedown, we're not even close to that). We killed just about every boss in the game for variety. Shit drops everywhere. Malak everywhere. We don't know tier lists or anything but that shit dropped EVERYWHERE and we knew from simple damage comparison it was shit. Seriously Gearbox why even make those...
Jericho in mortar modw with Infernal Wish doubles all projectiles, so you can fire it twice and get 16 mortar shells. It's quite fun, but not insane damage. It will wipe out the entire area though.
The Rowans call on my armara build will kill badass enemies in about 5 shots with crits. It's definitely a gun that only works with a build, but it does work then it shreds
Im currently using a corrosive crossroads on zane and it isn’t performing too terribly. Certainly it isn’t a Kaoson or plasma coil but comparing it to those is a bit much… it isnt unusable but there are definitely better options
Honestly I grab any legendary weapons I find... even if they're bad, just so that I can add them to my collection. I know I'm being Grievous but honestly I don't care
I'm not a fan of most COV weapons, they eat through your ammunition when there are better guns that can use them (I know the Tizzy exists, but I can't afford arms race)
you might need to remake this list or do a part 2 when you try the vault card weapons. lack luster would be a generous description of them. Be a shame to not take the oppertunity to use the word Abysmal to describe them tho.
Right at the start i disagree The Hellfire is extremely good on Amara and her Elemental Builds... But the later release of Torrent kinda overshadows it anyways
Most of ya'll REALLY don't remember how good the Crossroads was. It was amazing. I remember having one in incendiary with next two mags radiation. Woah. Man it was sooooo good.
Bro your channel its so underated sadly :( u deserve a LOT more, u got a new sub and i be been learning a lot from u to what guns to pick and that kind of things in my first time playing borderlands 3 :) thank u so much man!
No Super Ball? That has to be close to the most useless weapon in the game. Lucian's Call is really terrible now, which is very sad. I got one in the base game on my first playthrough and it was badass. On M10 right now they're nigh-useless.
"Compare to the plasma coil". Yes, compared to one of the most absurdly, disgustingly broken weapons in the entire series, matching even many modded guns in its ability to make any fight trivial regardless of build, health type, etc, 99.99999% of all gear and skills are bad.
@@hamzaahmad1345 I'd say the super shreddifier is pretty decent. Only if you use it on moze tho. Other characters, at least for me, it doesn't do the best. Obviously tho there's better options for her like the soulrender but the super shreddifier is still pretty decent on her. Just don't try to kill a boss with it
@@grimreaper63151 Super shreddifier was my most favourite AR in BL2 and it was here as well. Hate it when my favourite guns feel like trash. I will switch to M4 just for this one gun.
Tbh. the Polybius might still be bad, BUT you can make it work. I have one on my Radiation Flak build, and it becomes a pretty good mobbing weapon. It might not be Hellwalker or Facepuncher level, but it is possible. But you need a lot of preparation. Urad radiation Polybius, Elemental projector deathless with radiation damage as passive, Grenade thrown anointed Pipe Bomb, Red Fang with weapon damage and shotgun damage passives and the 20% damage bonus from Gamma Burst. Without the elemental projector and the gamma burst bonus its still as bad, as you might expect from a Polybius.
Bane should be tied more intergrally into bl3. Beat a boss or raid or whatever and you get an achievement. Or overbuff the Bane into absurdity and then challenges that say "The easy way out" or something.
If you're amara, you could use unweave the rainbow to buff youre damage by about 500% on frozen enemies, and use a phase zerker to stack violent tapestry, get insane status effect chance, and it is fun for mobbing
Really good video, but there are some misconceptions about the NARP and hyperion snipers in general. 1) Hyperion snipers are reliable but need you to be good at sniping and you need to specifically build around their strenghts; 2) The NARP works nothing like the woodblocker, which after the buff is just ok, instead of the "omg its bad" misconception; 3) The NARP is a great gun, you need to build reload speed and mag size to keep that 10 bullets in the mag for the +200% dmg, fire rate, handling and accuracy bonus. (an amplify shield helps to start the damage snowballing theyre so good at).
@@owencummings4663 I thought so! But my dude mentioned the skin, the place and was using it, he didn't confuse them. That said, the tankman however is kinda bad since the effect is like a "reverse NARP", and it doesnt work well with hyperion snipers...
You’re using the Creeping Death wrong. It got a buff recently. And don’t directly shoot the target. Shoot the ground several times then reload directly at them.
It's a shame how the Rowan's call and Crossroads were once sought after and were considered high tier Also they should've brought back the GOTY BL1 especially the Baha Blast and definitely not the wave
What about the P2P Networker? This thing is so goddamn dogshit that it isn't even obtainable legitimately and has the alternate firemode "Gun team plz fix mode name" where you don't know if it's a joke or not
I hate the maleks bane because it reminds me I have to wait for Halloween to get the stalker, and I had to farm the phoenix for an atom balm deathless, guess how many maleks banes he dropped? At one point he dropped 2 of them and I quit farming.
I know they decreased world drop rates. However, I just defeated the Seer, then opened the 3 red tests, and I got jack shit. Nada. Nothing. This wasn’t a farm....this was my legit story playthrough. Nothing. That was a long ass boss fight....at least 10-15 before realizing how he was healing himself, then 10-15 to kill him.
I love the TK's Wave/Tidal Wave on Amara, her CC capabilities really lend a lot to shore up it's shortcomings, plus she can crank accuracy to really tighten it's grouping and Heavy Rain does a lot to extend it's range and further increase accuracy.
I tried it a bunch could not get it to work, now on Slaughter 3000 when they come out of drop ship it works so does Cutsman, lot if weapons seem situational....
at least mayhem doesn't ruin end game like op levels (for me being forced to use the best gear & its still not good enough isn't fun at all) doom 2016 to make things difficult they gave the npc's more health, damage & reduced you damage output :/
This is a list of guns to avoid but which legendaries do you think are simply misunderstood?
i dont think any should change rarity because then gearbox will forget about them and never buff them
Wow.1 was a massive surprise
Spartan, if you want please make a tutorial of how to use the save editors to buff guns! It is very simple. Basically, if the gun has a part that increases its damage, you can infinitly insert it on a gun to buff it. I like doing this to something like the cutsman, to buff them to be strong, which is a lot of fun
@@grandduelslover3055 im guessing its only for pc?
@@donald984 yep. You need a save editor
The malak's bane was buffed by 25%, but 25% of zero is still zero.
As graystillplays once said let's just add more zeros
It works better than the narp
Yeah, i was thinking that it ain't that bad, there are better snipers for sure but if you are don't have a full set of things yet and are just playing thru the story, Malak's Bane is now worth its weight in gold, quite frequent world drop too. Once you got better snipers it of course goes into the trashbin.
Real
You kill the boss :)
You see legendary on the ground :D
Its a malaks bane :(
You kill a mob of enemies :D
You see a legendary on the ground :D
It's a Malak's Bane :(
Once i got three light shows in a single boss kill 😅😂
Even after it's buff recently I still take it and throw it off cliffs
@@Jihadbearzwithgunz Don't even want it in Lost Loot. LOL
"Lucian's Call and Rowan's Calls are terrible"
Gearbox: And I took that personally
Exactly what i was thinking XD
yeah i was like wtf is he on about ? :D both of them are great, especialy on flak
Lucian's Call is fun on mobs, particularly the cryo version, but it's useless on bosses, at least M11. Even with the fire version, Joey Violet or whatever he's called is 10 minutes plus of just holding the trigger and keeping it pointed at his head. Never have to reload, never have to care about the adds. But it goes through 4 of those big joeys before it gets the job done. That's over 5000 rounds fired. Same with that stag boss whoever it was, and the Capt Haunt.
Rowan's Call, with 2.5x the damage of the Lucian's Call, is what I use now. Harder to keep on target, and the smaller clip means it runs out more often, but at least it gets the job done faster. Still not useful for bosses. But fun for everything before them.
@@user-AdamSmith tbh i feel like it's fine that some weapons are only good for either mobbing or bossing, it sort of gives them personality and makes them more enjoyable for me, and it avoids having too many weapons that can just tear through everything without effort. That way you have to at least change weapons depending on what you're doing
@@user-AdamSmith i mean yeah but with a radiation rowans call i have beat ever boss including anathema and scourge and hemovorous you just can only hit crits and have a build that isnt ass
Hey Gearbox watch this video and realize what needs boosted!
Good point.
Only if they watch it....
Screw that fix the goddamn game purple and blues are next to useless even on Mayhem that they're higher on some legendaries aren't worth s*** and I love some of the purple and blue weapons they're just not worth it anymore the whole games unbalanced
@@darthnecrosaberjacobrandal4247 1. Most purples are fine. Blues (w/o red text) are not supposed to work on mayhem levels since it's end game activity.
2. Red text purples and blues to need anoitments (idk about buffs since unfortunately that's not what they're for, I'd love to use the ice queen for example)
3. The game is unbalanced indeed, like all bl games. They're focusing on things but adding power creep all the time, we need to be patient given how well theyre doing with the hotfixes and patches.
@@STALKER777LK purples should let you kill a boss in a 10 min not an hour and legendary should not be weaker than purple otherwise it wouldn't make sense to let them be legendary.
Considering how it drops all over the place all the time, it feels like everything in the game is a dedicated drop source for the Malek’s Bane 😂
Perhaps the entire game is its dedicated drop source and it simply has a higher world drop chance than other legendaries?
I think about 95% of them shouldn't be legendaries
Gearbox destroyed the Crossroads. It has never recovered
at that moment it was a necessary nerf.
But after the mayhem scaling situation, it does deserve to get its 4th projectile back
the accuracy does not need to be reverted tho
@@STALKER777LK not only that, it needs it's damage doubled at least, same with the night hawkin
@@darealkenshi I talked about the nerf specifically
If we are going to do more the damage needs to be buffed since the new scaling is gross. I just dont know if doubling is smart since night hawking is a consistent damage gun and the crossroads is a burst damage gun. But I see where you come from.
The crossroads was my 2nd ever legendary but only ever got to play with the nerfed version.
I’m still using it on Amara and it shreds
You forgot the Alchemist. It also kills you if you shoot it and it does absolutely horrible damage itself. Moze can use it with her splash damage bonuses, but she can make almost anything that has splash work that way, so its not really a hight bar to get over.
Use it on Moze with the transformer and it'll recharge your shield instead of hurt you.
Will it nuke her if she's using her skag den/green monster though - because Alchemist COULD be useful then since it does splash and is an AR with a high fire rate/mag size.
I'm suprised that the Quadomizer or the Chandelier didn't even make into the list. That E-Tech shotgun nerf from a while ago really effected the Chandelier and ruined it.
You're right the Quadomizer is terrible, so bad that it deserves its own countdown
@@SpartanGameZone top 1 worst quadamizers?
@@grandduelslover3055 honorable mentions:
Quadomizer ;)
still praying for my cloud kill buff, i wish it played like a corrosive embers purge
THANK YOU!! I have a save file backed up so that I can farm for the anoint I want. Just need the buff lolol
@@heythere4858 The re-roll machine coming this 8 will allow it to get annointments as well as the other unannointed weapons like the seventh sense, linc and Reynah.
@@luckylunch3256 Are you sure we can reroll an anoint on these weapons ? I say you can only change an existing one not add one to a weapon but i hope i'm wrong.
@@luckylunch3256 not too long ago they allowed the linc to roll annoints naturally, not super important but still cool!
@@musichowl yeah, they did, but good luck finding one. Because I hear that even on mayhem 10 there's still only A CHANCE for it to drop with an anoint. So far, I haven't come across one yet
I wonder if Frozen Devil is a reference to Mei from Overwatch. The gun has two firing modes, a beam of ice and an ice dart and the name, Mei has been a meme forever, referred to as 'The Devil' because of the contrast between her cuteness and ability to really ruin a player's day.
It is a Mei ref
It is.
The flavour text should've tipped you off, considering it's literally "not sorry, not sorry, not sorry."
It absolutely is
Superball anyone? Uncontrollable random balls, that may or may not hit your desired target, or any target for that matter, and even if they do they barely do enough incendiary damage to light a fart.
YES, YES... Someone agrees with me.
Does next to no damage against flesh where it's supposed to excel
I feel like the gimmick weapons were a lot easier to have fun with in BL2 and Pre-Sequel
Also I'm still a HUGE fan of the Rowan's Call on Amara at least
Green goo that's straight from the Kids Choice Awards 😂😂😂
Haha, glad you liked that one!
@@SpartanGameZone MADE ME LAUGH! lol
Having the Rowan's Call as an Honorable Mention sure didn't age like milk
I think all of the legendary weapons should get a huge buff and lower the drop rate. Im bummed that there are even legendary weapons that are worse then purple weapons.
I've always liked the Woodblocker myself. The ammo consumption is easy to counter; I always have a cutpurse equipped on most characters or on Moze I use an ammo regen build. You can get it with up to 142% crit damage which really gives it some power.
The Binary Operator actually one-shots enemies that have 50,000 or less health, so it isn't a weapon that should be used mid or late game, but early game maybe.
But will it roll with that damage at lower levels? And are you really going to take this over any other op arms race legendary that you may get?
I'm sure Zane could make a pool noodle work better than he can the malaks bane before commitment was given a cap
Infinite commitment made anything work tho, not really that special lol
Great video my friend...I swear every boss I kill drops a Malaks Bane gearbox must have bought the entire stock of this weapon..
I love the crossroads when I got it during the first story playthrough but its sad to see the DPS on it ain't enough
I really see no issue with the Rowan's/Lucian's Call, they are amazing guns with the right elements and i have no idea why the ones in that recording were so bad
this video was made a year ago, they got buffed after this video was made
This is a very old video, so it was probably buffed sometime after this video was made.
The hellfire needs to be a maliwan gun again wtf were the bl3 team thinking. They ruined my baby 🥺
As a veteran of borderlands (been playing it since the first) all I can say is look at what they did to my boy . In bl1 the dot stacked and wrecked everything , in bl2 it did okay but most guns did okay without slag.
@@Jihadbearzwithgunz nice to see another veteran still playing. Brought every game n launch and i have over 15,000 hours in the series
@@jakecard981 between pc , ps3 and ps4 I got close to 20k hours invested in the series played far too much back in the day not as much now play maybe 2-4 hours a day farming gear most of my characters are at 60 still with the exception of my amara.
The thing that really shows how much the Malak's Bane sucks is that you cannot make it work in Arms Race. Like, I've had several items from this list drop in Arms Race and they just tear through it since the scaling is a lot less agressive, like the Wave just straight-up one-shots most mobs there. The Malak's Bane on the other hand... nah, you're better picking up a random blue sniper or something simular.
The Boring Gun: Oh you- Oh you thought I was gonna be on the list?
HAW HAW....HAW 🤣🤣🤣
And side note, you are ABSOLUTELY correct about damage scaling on Mayhem modes.
Unless you're modded or have god rolled gear, you go down faster than a baby momma around tax season.
Yeah, absolutely. Whenever i've used T.Ks Wave, i've always used it up close and personal because any further away and it doesn't do anything at all
I truly don’t understand Gearbox.
A gun like the Crossroads, Rowan’s Call or Lucians Call have been fan favourites. But Gearbox hasn’t (truly) addressed them to make them viable.
They’ll buff a gun like the Hellwalker and just make it god tier, while other guns buffs don’t even make them worthwhile at Mayhem 5.
It’s almost like they’re stubborn and just childishly don’t want to admit their game has flaws.
I'm with you on the Crossroad.
The Rowan's Call Is one of the best guns right now.
(describing TK) "The projectiles move slower than a sloth riding a snail.." 😱😂
Brilliant description 😂
Gearbox nerfs popular builds in the first place, but be reluctant to buff the legendary trash at players' fingertips.
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I love how gearbox always adds these joke legendarys and stuff. And also just legendarys that shouldn’t be legendarys haha. Thanks for the vid bro!
I believe is tht some guns are so crazy they dont know how to balance them around their gimmicks
(although some are obviously underpowered since the design so... maybe is lack of touch lol)
The TK's Wave has gotten better with the damage buff. But the issue it suffers from now is hit reg. Like i'll run up to a slow fat boss and watch all the pellets phase through it. When the pellets do connect they do a decent chunk of damage.
11:01 this part isn’t valid anymore, this things a beast now
Many of the weapons here have received a buff, malak's bane is now very decent and Rowan's Call does a ton of damage now, i think it is one of the highest DPS from regular world drop items but has its recoil pumped up so much that you want to use it like a semi-auto.. but is is like a bad semi-auto that sometimes fires too many bullets and kicks your barrel to the sky. If you could switch it to semi-auto mode for medium and long distance targets, it wouldn't be that bad.
The pain is power/ embrace the pain aren’t bad weapons, but putting them on the list isn’t fair especially when you realize you can pair it with an embers blaze to reduce the burn damage to yourself by around 84%, the polybius projectiles deal splash making it better on moze than amara and it should be used like a long muskets reload effect in where you use the leg turrets than the actual weapon, hellfire is still better than the boomer, the creeping death is meant to be used as a traditional tediore or you shoot the ground and reload if the reload hits a target the bombs will home on the target and blow up at once
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Awesome I’m hyped!
Hehe, Rowan’s call got buffed, it’s literally my main gun cause it both bosses and mobs super well
We needed a list of the worst to change it up.
To be fair the loot balancing is better than ever
even tho the meta guns are obnoxiously broken...
@@STALKER777LK Agreed.
@@STALKER777LK eh, I kinda wish they'd buff the cutsman
I'm not a big player, I only play when going to a friend's house. Yesterday I went there. We played for hours, and we were trying to build something that could take on the maliwan takedown (not even true takedown, we're not even close to that). We killed just about every boss in the game for variety. Shit drops everywhere. Malak everywhere. We don't know tier lists or anything but that shit dropped EVERYWHERE and we knew from simple damage comparison it was shit.
Seriously Gearbox why even make those...
It a meme. They even buffed it a bit as a meme
Marak's Bane is the first legendary I got in the game. Didn't realize it is a bad weapon at that time.
I had a lucians call that carried me through 12 chapters
Jericho in mortar modw with Infernal Wish doubles all projectiles, so you can fire it twice and get 16 mortar shells. It's quite fun, but not insane damage. It will wipe out the entire area though.
Lucian’s Call is my favourite weapon 😂
How did you narrow it down to 10 only
The Rowans call on my armara build will kill badass enemies in about 5 shots with crits. It's definitely a gun that only works with a build, but it does work then it shreds
Nah, it got a buff sometime after the video was made, so now it's one of the best assault rifles in the game and is great on all Vault Hunters
Lucian's and Jericho were very useful to me with Fl4k crit build, but they lost their value very quickly tho
These videos are pure gold. Keep up the good work!
Im currently using a corrosive crossroads on zane and it isn’t performing too terribly. Certainly it isn’t a Kaoson or plasma coil but comparing it to those is a bit much… it isnt unusable but there are definitely better options
Surprised that the Night Flyer wasn’t on here
Tbh the Jericho is just a troll weapon in my opinion since it can down your teammates
My favorite guns are the really bad ones because it's just fun running around with a meme cannon.
i like bad legendary weapons they make the good ones look so much greater
Honestly I grab any legendary weapons I find... even if they're bad, just so that I can add them to my collection. I know I'm being Grievous but honestly I don't care
Better keep at least one then pray it gets buffed on a hotfix.
@@user-hardbrain eh I still go for the recommended guns by guys like SGZ and the like
did the rowns get buffed becaus i got a rowans with 2x corossive mag and i 4 shot all enemys its my best rifel by far ?
I’ve been on the buff the hellfire train since day 1
If your employing on pc buff it youre self
Embrace the Pain drops from EVERYONE.. getting really sick of it
I'm not a fan of most COV weapons, they eat through your ammunition when there are better guns that can use them
(I know the Tizzy exists, but I can't afford arms race)
you might need to remake this list or do a part 2 when you try the vault card weapons. lack luster would be a generous description of them. Be a shame to not take the oppertunity to use the word Abysmal to describe them tho.
Right at the start i disagree
The Hellfire is extremely good on Amara and her Elemental Builds... But the later release of Torrent kinda overshadows it anyways
The hellfire is good for early game but not for end game.
Most of ya'll REALLY don't remember how good the Crossroads was. It was amazing. I remember having one in incendiary with next two mags radiation. Woah. Man it was sooooo good.
Bro your channel its so underated sadly :( u deserve a LOT more, u got a new sub and i be been learning a lot from u to what guns to pick and that kind of things in my first time playing borderlands 3 :) thank u so much man!
No Super Ball? That has to be close to the most useless weapon in the game.
Lucian's Call is really terrible now, which is very sad. I got one in the base game on my first playthrough and it was badass. On M10 right now they're nigh-useless.
I love the crossroads they used to be so good and need to be buffed
The Rowan's Call is one of the best guns now
"Compare to the plasma coil". Yes, compared to one of the most absurdly, disgustingly broken weapons in the entire series, matching even many modded guns in its ability to make any fight trivial regardless of build, health type, etc, 99.99999% of all gear and skills are bad.
Surprised to see some of these over ASMD, Magnificent, Superball, Unforgiven, Kill-o the Wisp, or Phebert
Remember when the crossroads used to be a meta weapon? Yeah I miss those times
is shreddifier ok???? base damage is way too low for mayhem.
@@hamzaahmad1345 I'd say the super shreddifier is pretty decent. Only if you use it on moze tho. Other characters, at least for me, it doesn't do the best. Obviously tho there's better options for her like the soulrender but the super shreddifier is still pretty decent on her. Just don't try to kill a boss with it
@@grimreaper63151 Super shreddifier was my most favourite AR in BL2 and it was here as well. Hate it when my favourite guns feel like trash. I will switch to M4 just for this one gun.
The virgin Malak's Bane vs the chad Sand Hawk
Polly bias haha, Pol-ee-bee-us mate
Maybe dishonorable mentions, knaimean? Lol
I don't think that tks wave will never be good RIP Tk Baha
Even after the fix for sniper rifle drops the bane still drops anywhere and everywhere. It dropped 5 times in a row just toady on graveward.
Tbh. the Polybius might still be bad, BUT you can make it work. I have one on my Radiation Flak build, and it becomes a pretty good mobbing weapon. It might not be Hellwalker or Facepuncher level, but it is possible. But you need a lot of preparation.
Urad radiation Polybius, Elemental projector deathless with radiation damage as passive, Grenade thrown anointed Pipe Bomb, Red Fang with weapon damage and shotgun damage passives and the 20% damage bonus from Gamma Burst.
Without the elemental projector and the gamma burst bonus its still as bad, as you might expect from a Polybius.
Honourable mentions should be dishonourable mentions for this list, surely 😀
You gotta freeze with the lazer then use the ice-sickle, its an overwatch refrence
I've got some of these "legendary" that I don't use, the Jericho has dropped for me that didn't have any element.
Bane should be tied more intergrally into bl3. Beat a boss or raid or whatever and you get an achievement. Or overbuff the Bane into absurdity and then challenges that say "The easy way out" or something.
So surprised the night Hawkin didn’t make the list. Used to be my favorite gun and has been shit since damn near since m4 first came out
Rowan's and Lucian's calls have had massive buffs.
The Narp huh? The Tankman Shield is worse than that.
Frozen Devil’s combat loop is that you freeze them with the laser, and then crit them with the spike. Still sucks tho lol
It’s Meis gun in overwatch lol
@@modernyin6275 wouldn’t know, I’ve never played it lmao
ITS GOOD DESIGN
but not amazing execution.
If you're amara, you could use unweave the rainbow to buff youre damage by about 500% on frozen enemies, and use a phase zerker to stack violent tapestry, get insane status effect chance, and it is fun for mobbing
The super ball really blows
Really good video, but there are some misconceptions about the NARP and hyperion snipers in general.
1) Hyperion snipers are reliable but need you to be good at sniping and you need to specifically build around their strenghts;
2) The NARP works nothing like the woodblocker, which after the buff is just ok, instead of the "omg its bad" misconception;
3) The NARP is a great gun, you need to build reload speed and mag size to keep that 10 bullets in the mag for the +200% dmg, fire rate, handling and accuracy bonus. (an amplify shield helps to start the damage snowballing theyre so good at).
I think in the Narps place should have been Tankman Shield.
@@owencummings4663 I thought so!
But my dude mentioned the skin, the place and was using it, he didn't confuse them.
That said, the tankman however is kinda bad since the effect is like a "reverse NARP", and it doesnt work well with hyperion snipers...
The Binary Operator should just have a 1,000,000% crit bonus and throw out it’s current effect all together.
I use an incendiary Rowan's Call with Moze and it absolutely RIPS. It can be good with the right build
Anyone else shocked by the worst gun 😱😱😱
You’re using the Creeping Death wrong. It got a buff recently. And don’t directly shoot the target. Shoot the ground several times then reload directly at them.
It's a shame how the Rowan's call and Crossroads were once sought after and were considered high tier
Also they should've brought back the GOTY BL1 especially the Baha Blast and definitely not the wave
Just played BL1 recently. Agreed. That gun is an excellent FFYL savior.
What about the P2P Networker? This thing is so goddamn dogshit that it isn't even obtainable legitimately and has the alternate firemode "Gun team plz fix mode name" where you don't know if it's a joke or not
Just realized the frozen devil is just meis gun from overwatch lmao
The Romans call is a good assault rifle especially on flag
Rowan's after buff: I'm back b***h.
I hate the maleks bane because it reminds me I have to wait for Halloween to get the stalker, and I had to farm the phoenix for an atom balm deathless, guess how many maleks banes he dropped? At one point he dropped 2 of them and I quit farming.
Do you still have Heck available as a fast travel option?
@@100purenacl3 nope gotta wait till next Halloween
@@Prophet_of_gecko_jesus0001 that's unfortunate as i need a new one myself
@@100purenacl3 you on xbox?
@@100purenacl3 i have a stalker can just dupe it then reoll it
I know they decreased world drop rates. However, I just defeated the Seer, then opened the 3 red tests, and I got jack shit. Nada. Nothing. This wasn’t a farm....this was my legit story playthrough. Nothing. That was a long ass boss fight....at least 10-15 before realizing how he was healing himself, then 10-15 to kill him.
Sadly, for damage, i would put lucian's call now... it used to be so good!
I bet you're eating your words now, aren't you 😏
(In a good way, of course lol)
@@heythere4858 its usable again, but the damage is dwarfed by rowan's call
That tk wave needs to be pushed to the hundreds of thousands per pellet at this point. I really just feel bad for it.
I had an anointed pain is power for zane which literally gave me infinite AR ammo
I love the TK's Wave/Tidal Wave on Amara, her CC capabilities really lend a lot to shore up it's shortcomings, plus she can crank accuracy to really tighten it's grouping and Heavy Rain does a lot to extend it's range and further increase accuracy.
I tried it a bunch could not get it to work, now on Slaughter 3000 when they come out of drop ship it works so does Cutsman, lot if weapons seem situational....
at least mayhem doesn't ruin end game like op levels (for me being forced to use the best gear & its still not good enough isn't fun at all) doom 2016 to make things difficult they gave the npc's more health, damage & reduced you damage output :/