2:18 Fun fact: because some of this unused audio was Captain Falcon's, they didn't need Ryō Horikawa to record any new audio for the next few games, meaning that it took until the announcement of Min Min in 2020 for them to bring back his voice actor. Yes, they brought Ryō back after over two decades just to record him slurping noddles.
I feel like there were different audio clips between games like Melee and Brawl at least, unless those were unused until later games too. Even between Brawl and Smash 4 his hurt lines sound different. It is interesting if they actually managed to not bring him back for all that time using just unused lines
@@adamspeiser6449It may sound like the voice actor recorded new lines in Melee and Brawl, but this is cause they used alternate takes for Captain Falcon. Heck, the final smash sound bite in the original Smash is different from what we hear in Brawl. And he wasn’t the only case. In future games, existing/returning characters were not re-recorded. Anything unused during the original recording sessions would just be used in newer installments.
They've also been using Rachel Lillis' voice for Jigglypuff and recycling the same takes in Melee all the way to Ultimate... Really hope she gets better health-wise
The beta was called Ryuuo the Fighting Game. It’s named after the city in the stock photo and isn’t supposed to be literally translated to “dragon king”
You can actually put Kirby into his helpless state after his Up-B. It's just VERY rare when this happens. It has happened to me once in Dreamland and a few other times in Saffron City. It happens when you use Up-B near the very edge, and after landing you start falling on the next frame because of how close you are to the edge of the platform you landed on. Kirby then starts his Free-Fall animation.
You also can get Kirby in the anim with the forward grab throw, if you bounce yourself off of the platform and freefall after you're thrown away from your target. I think Yoshi also enters freefall after his egg throw if you start it from midair and fall long enough to switch animations. Source: I used to spam grabs throws forward against the top platform kirby team and then use the bounce to land on the left platform, usually went into the dive animation. For Yoshi I'm less sure, but I missed the final egg throw so many tines in break the targets that I SWEAR either my brain is gaslighting me or I saw that ground-pound like animation so often that I knew exactly what a no-recovery fall state was before I realized it was an intended visual cue you can't recover in that stance.
that fact nintendo still hasn't put the original smash bros is a crime. let me relive my childhood by playing classic mode 8 times with the exact same order of opponents to unlock mushroom kingdom!
Dragon King is not exactly an accurate name for the game. Hal Labratory Office happened to be located in Ryōū, Japan. And Ryōū happens to translate roughly to Dragon King Essentially, the game was unlikely to ever really be called Dragon King. Put it this way, its like if a New York developer decided to make a fighting game, and used the name "New York, The Fighting Game"
Hard to believe the Smash series originally started as nothing more than a run of the mill kung fu fighting game, imagine if nobody had ever thought of making it about Mario and friends, the Smash series we all know and love would literally never have been.
One regional difference I've never seen anyone bring up is how Donkey Kong's name, when selected, is unchanged in the Japanese version, while the international version shortens it to DK. On the character select screen, the name is D. Kong.
The reason for it being different internationally was to avoid copyright issues with Universal and King Kong, plus DK is a more iconic shortform anyway
@@somethingsomething7903not true. Nintendo was already sued by Universal in 1982 because of donkey Kong similarities to King King. Nintendo won the lawsuit so that wouldn’t have been the reason they shortened it to DK.
I'm surprised you didn't mentioned that both Samus and Luigi have missing hitboxes in their up air and dash attack respectively This can be reimplemented by altering a single bit of data in the game (apparently). What's really interesting is that in the next game this was kept as a choice for Samus, but Luigi still was not fixed or they did a really similar mistake with his dash attack. Anyway Great video!!!
_Battle Royal_ is also part of the title in Japan, as the title translates to *Battle Royal Smash Brothers.* This can be seen in the menu background. _Ike_ actually means *go!* as in charging forward, or *Come on, please hit!" if you were aiming for a target and throwing/shooting/etc. Tho I think it might be used in that first sense in Star Fox 64. But I haven't played it in Japanese much.
8:28 These weren't used because the render routine for them doesn't support scaling. The game still scales them in real time, the render routine doesn't support the given scale. The codes to enable them change the routines associated with them to ones that do support scaling.
I'm not too surprised to learn Fox actually had some spoken lines of dialog that got cut out... not unlike what they did with him in Melee, but only keeping his "Mission Complete" victory line and his "come on" taunt, being the only English lines he ever says. I'm also not too surprised there were plans to have flashing effects like lots of other fighting games had like Marvel vs Capcom 2, but considering the timing of when Smash 64 came out, they likely had a change of heart after the whole infamous Pokemon anime episode with Porygon.
14:45 however. This victory theme was chosen of a reskinned mod for smash 64. Called smash remix. With new characters and stages. And some of these characters are the fighting polygon team. that have this victory fanfare.
Interestingly, the characters with up specials that don't put them into helpless falling (such as Yoshi, Jigglypuff) do actually go into them in the latest games since at least one item can actually force a hapless victim into that state.
8:25 I'm a bit late I think, but my theory as to why the animation for Jigglypuff wasn't implemented was to make the Hitbox for the Sing Attack more clear.
The Smashers all getting cubed is a tremendous vibe. I don't know why I suddenly want that to be a new effect they'll ibclude in all future Smash games (even if their hitboxes are no longer literal boxes), I just want it to be a feature from now on.
Was playing this game the other day lol, Suprised you came back, btw I dont know if yaknow, when you pause, the characts polys become higher than when you unpause
If Final Smashes were added in this game, what would they have been for most of the cast? Mainly for DK, Kirby, Pikachu and Luigi as most elements or moves used in their Final Smashes in Brawl and later 4 and Ultimate didn't exist in 1999. Everyone else likely would've had the Final Smashes they've had from Brawl onwards (Fox's specifically likely would've been a different take on the Arwing Final Smash he has in Ultimate).
3:15 You said that Clefairy was considered or unused. But where's the source at? Neither TCRF nor Source Gaming had any info of Clefairy being considered to be a fighter in Smash. If you got the idea because of Pokemon Yellow and Pink source code leaks and Pikachu and Clefairy seen in the Gameboy Camera printer, that's not a valid explanation. Sakurai have stated clearly that all of the unlockables were reusing moves from other characters, considering they're a clone to another and Jigglypuff was chosen for it due to her having a similar shape as Kirby.
If you got it because of the "If it were a Smash 2" poll, then that's not the case as it comes after Smash 64's release. The same goes for Peach. She was never considered or planned to be a fighter in Smash 64 to begin with. All of the considered and cut characters in Smash 64 are all of the Star Fox crew as an alt for Fox, Mewtwo, Bowser, King Dedede, and Marth.
@@TetraBitGaming ah. Good show for Clefairy. But for Peach? Not even the smash wiki stated that Peach was considered. Just rumors and Smash 2 poll. Unless it was mentioned in some magazine
Already answered, but Clefairy was intended to be the Pokémon mascot at one point in time. Though, by the time Red and Blue released outside of Japan, Pikachu had already become the primary mascot for the series.
I remember there is a 1-P mode Bonus that got its name changed from The original japanese version to the international one. If You win the match with a Motion Sensor Bomb You Will get The "Booby trap" bonus which was originally named "00 Agent" in the japanese version, a reference to GoldenEye 007. They didn't want to get in legal trouble with EON pictures it seems
11:20 Saying 行け is "Come on" will probably give people the wrong idea. The nuance is backwards. Rather than "come (towards me)", it means to "go (to that)". If the plan was to make Fox's final smash be like it is in Ultimate, where he commands his comrades to help him take down an enemy, then this utterance would fit contextually. Moreover, I don't want people to mistake this as the "Come on" that Fox says in Melee as his taunt. That phrase comes from かかってこい (come at me). If you switch the game's language to Japanese, he'll say either the English or the Japanese phrase at random for his taunt, but they mean the same thing.
I wonder if having to silence fox's 「ミッション完了！」(Mission Kanryou) lead them to record his 「ミッションコンプリート！」 (Mission Complete!) for melee. It's odd they cared at all enough to do that though considering none of marth's lines would be translated for many years.
I have to wonder what Kirby's Final Smash would of been in Smash 64. Yes, I know it probably was just Chef Kirby, but Kirby has a different Final Smash in each game, so I would love to imagine Kirby getting a completely different attack.
I think they didnt implement the pulsing effect on Jigglypuff's sing because would be a little hard to tell where the hitbox of the move is. It might make the move seem unfair. Considering Jigglypuff is moving left and right while singing. It might lead to players to thinking that the move hit them when it didn't. Or Maybe they deemed the pulsing effect too big? There is no way to know for sure.
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What's your favorite character in this game??
Yoshi
Luigi
I enjoy playing as Kirby
Blue kirby cube
Falcon and Ness.
2:18 Fun fact: because some of this unused audio was Captain Falcon's, they didn't need Ryō Horikawa to record any new audio for the next few games, meaning that it took until the announcement of Min Min in 2020 for them to bring back his voice actor.
Yes, they brought Ryō back after over two decades just to record him slurping noddles.
I feel like there were different audio clips between games like Melee and Brawl at least, unless those were unused until later games too. Even between Brawl and Smash 4 his hurt lines sound different. It is interesting if they actually managed to not bring him back for all that time using just unused lines
@@adamspeiser6449It may sound like the voice actor recorded new lines in Melee and Brawl, but this is cause they used alternate takes for Captain Falcon. Heck, the final smash sound bite in the original Smash is different from what we hear in Brawl. And he wasn’t the only case. In future games, existing/returning characters were not re-recorded. Anything unused during the original recording sessions would just be used in newer installments.
They've also been using Rachel Lillis' voice for Jigglypuff and recycling the same takes in Melee all the way to Ultimate... Really hope she gets better health-wise
@@SorcererLanceAwe, what happened to her?
@@chocov1233 she got cancer
It’s interesting that Sakurai was thinking about a photosensitivity toggle even all the way back then, shame it was never implemented.
The beta was called Ryuuo the Fighting Game. It’s named after the city in the stock photo and isn’t supposed to be literally translated to “dragon king”
You can actually put Kirby into his helpless state after his Up-B. It's just VERY rare when this happens. It has happened to me once in Dreamland and a few other times in Saffron City. It happens when you use Up-B near the very edge, and after landing you start falling on the next frame because of how close you are to the edge of the platform you landed on. Kirby then starts his Free-Fall animation.
You also can get Kirby in the anim with the forward grab throw, if you bounce yourself off of the platform and freefall after you're thrown away from your target.
I think Yoshi also enters freefall after his egg throw if you start it from midair and fall long enough to switch animations.
Source: I used to spam grabs throws forward against the top platform kirby team and then use the bounce to land on the left platform, usually went into the dive animation. For Yoshi I'm less sure, but I missed the final egg throw so many tines in break the targets that I SWEAR either my brain is gaslighting me or I saw that ground-pound like animation so often that I knew exactly what a no-recovery fall state was before I realized it was an intended visual cue you can't recover in that stance.
that fact nintendo still hasn't put the original smash bros is a crime. let me relive my childhood by playing classic mode 8 times with the exact same order of opponents to unlock mushroom kingdom!
I didn’t know you were revisiting old lost bits episodes!!! That’s so cool!!
Yeah! I've remade a couple at this point already
@@TetraBitGamingwaw remake?
@@TetraBitGaming You did? What are the videos? I
@@TetraBitGamingwatermelon
@@GrahamboPCmelon water
The free falling animations got used in the next games btw, it activates when you touch the ground for a split milisecond
Also visible in Smash 4 onwards by using these characters and bouncing off of Pac Man's up special.
Air dodging in melee obviously works too
i managed to see kirby's free fall animation in brawl by falling off of a conveyor belt in subspace.
Dragon King is not exactly an accurate name for the game. Hal Labratory Office happened to be located in Ryōū, Japan. And Ryōū happens to translate roughly to Dragon King
Essentially, the game was unlikely to ever really be called Dragon King. Put it this way, its like if a New York developer decided to make a fighting game, and used the name "New York, The Fighting Game"
竜王 is ryuuou (or ryūō)
The blue spinning angry Kirby Cube has some MAD Windows 98 Screensaver vibes.
5:08
"BLASTOOOISE!"
"Gummy!"
Blastoise Gummies?
GUMMEHHH!!!!! 😆
Hard to believe the Smash series originally started as nothing more than a run of the mill kung fu fighting game, imagine if nobody had ever thought of making it about Mario and friends, the Smash series we all know and love would literally never have been.
10:57 did you just…
Btw it’s all good just so you know
*W H E E Z E R*
how did you comment 4 hours ago if the video was uploaded a minute ago 😭
@@twenty5five uh I think it's a member thing idk
@@imsosillyloll oh yeah probably
10:54 Weezer jumpscare
toki!
One regional difference I've never seen anyone bring up is how Donkey Kong's name, when selected, is unchanged in the Japanese version, while the international version shortens it to DK. On the character select screen, the name is D. Kong.
those are pretty minor with no gameplay differences anyways
The reason for it being different internationally was to avoid copyright issues with Universal and King Kong, plus DK is a more iconic shortform anyway
@@somethingsomething7903not true. Nintendo was already sued by Universal in 1982 because of donkey Kong similarities to King King. Nintendo won the lawsuit so that wouldn’t have been the reason they shortened it to DK.
8:48 This was likely a version of the “Angled” option in special smash that eventually made it into Brawl.
23:30 MAKE THIS A LOOP!
Casual text tones
I'm surprised you didn't mentioned that both Samus and Luigi have missing hitboxes in their up air and dash attack respectively
This can be reimplemented by altering a single bit of data in the game (apparently).
What's really interesting is that in the next game this was kept as a choice for Samus, but Luigi still was not fixed or they did a really similar mistake with his dash attack.
Anyway
Great video!!!
Holy cow! I wasn’t expecting you to revisit this one!
_Battle Royal_ is also part of the title in Japan, as the title translates to *Battle Royal Smash Brothers.* This can be seen in the menu background.
_Ike_ actually means *go!* as in charging forward, or *Come on, please hit!" if you were aiming for a target and throwing/shooting/etc. Tho I think it might be used in that first sense in Star Fox 64. But I haven't played it in Japanese much.
8:28 These weren't used because the render routine for them doesn't support scaling. The game still scales them in real time, the render routine doesn't support the given scale. The codes to enable them change the routines associated with them to ones that do support scaling.
I'm not too surprised to learn Fox actually had some spoken lines of dialog that got cut out... not unlike what they did with him in Melee, but only keeping his "Mission Complete" victory line and his "come on" taunt, being the only English lines he ever says.
I'm also not too surprised there were plans to have flashing effects like lots of other fighting games had like Marvel vs Capcom 2, but considering the timing of when Smash 64 came out, they likely had a change of heart after the whole infamous Pokemon anime episode with Porygon.
1:13 Ah yes the background is a random jpeg of a city in japan
I don't know if you're serious or joking. He doesn't mention it, but it's Ryuoh.
That Yoshi animation at 6:31 had me feelin' different
14:45 however. This victory theme was chosen of a reskinned mod for smash 64. Called smash remix. With new characters and stages. And some of these characters are the fighting polygon team. that have this victory fanfare.
i havent seen your videos in a long time, but hearing that lil outro beat at the end just like... i dunno how to describe it
@@jessipeppermintz6372 well, hopefully it's something good 😅
22:44 petition to call this the kirb cube
Glass when it falls: 12:55
You make me happy everytime i see an upload, ty
I actually thought this was an old video by the thumbnail! Nice that you are remaking old videos!
BLUE KIRB CUBE
The release timing of this video would’ve been a lot better for me if I was a channel member ;) can’t wait to watch!!!
3:19, [Insert Chicken Nuggets joke here]
I loved the first smash, it's honestly underrated😮💨
12:55 Oh no! Our table! It's broken!
5:08
“BLASTOISE 👹”
“YUMMY :D”
cant believe its been 8 years!! thats means i started watching you 8 years ago which is like half my life 😎👍
Crazy right? Thanks for sticking around that long 🙏🏼
Blue Kirby Cube with color changing background would go hard as a wallpaper
Very true
It With Transitions Between The Background Color Changes Would Go Hard As A Screensaver.
*_Slamfest '99_*
*_anxiety trip for all lost media hunters_*
They predicted the jjk prison realm
THE -cosmic- KIRB CUBE CAN DO ANYTHING
2:37 the irony of the screenshot coming from "4K ultra"
It made me beyond mad as a kid that Metal Mario wasn't an unlockable, playable character. The metal box item in later games didn't cut it either.
“BLUE KIRBY CUBE”
- The description, quoting Tetra
So...
The Hitbox Mode predicted Minecraft in Smash Bros, before Minecraft was even a thing... ?
Awesome Video!
Thanks thotho
Peach was never planned for Smash 64. That was just a myth.
proof?
@@Fireballwashere The guy who said it didn't have a source and Sakurai never said anything about including Peach in 64.
@@SonicTheCutehog alright
@@Fireballwashere I feel like it's the person saying it's true who should show some proofs lol
@@Fireballwashereshe T-pose to assert dominance.
I see you used the footage from Sakurai’s video series!
14:26 hypnos lullaby reference omg
Interestingly, the characters with up specials that don't put them into helpless falling (such as Yoshi, Jigglypuff) do actually go into them in the latest games since at least one item can actually force a hapless victim into that state.
A stop button for the sound test? Don't think I've ever seen that before.
You're my favorite UA-camr thank you for uploading all the time❤
Thanks for watching!
@@TetraBitGaming you're welcome
22:25 - Blue Kirby Cube.
8:25 I'm a bit late I think, but my theory as to why the animation for Jigglypuff wasn't implemented was to make the Hitbox for the Sing Attack more clear.
The Smashers all getting cubed is a tremendous vibe. I don't know why I suddenly want that to be a new effect they'll ibclude in all future Smash games (even if their hitboxes are no longer literal boxes), I just want it to be a feature from now on.
I did _NOT_ expect a Weezer reference. 😂😂😂
me neiðer
The blue kirby cube looks like the prison realm.
Good that you're going through the games, always felt like you never gave it a proper go.
Blue Kirby cube
American hit sound: spring hitting wall
Japanese hit sound: beginning of Michael Jackson song
8:34 Most likely cause the unused animation makes sing look like it effects a bigger area then it actually is.
when the bits are lost wait where are they I lost tthe bits oh noooo
So true, hate when that happens
I've heard Kirby 64 has been getting decompiled sorta recently, if any new unused content is discovered I would love to see you cover that game again
The Weezer bit cracked me up XD
i wish Mewtwo had made the cut for this one, he's my favorite pokemon and it'd be reassuring to know he had that permanent spot on the roster
Me when I get my kitchen remodeled: 17:34
unexpected weezer jumpscare😭
oh my god this has to be like, the first lost bits I saw, I'm so shocked that was 8 years ago...
we did it guy 10:59
whats with these homies dissin my girl
Smash bros more like pass sisters
Was playing this game the other day lol, Suprised you came back, btw I dont know if yaknow, when you pause, the characts polys become higher than when you unpause
If Final Smashes were added in this game, what would they have been for most of the cast? Mainly for DK, Kirby, Pikachu and Luigi as most elements or moves used in their Final Smashes in Brawl and later 4 and Ultimate didn't exist in 1999.
Everyone else likely would've had the Final Smashes they've had from Brawl onwards (Fox's specifically likely would've been a different take on the Arwing Final Smash he has in Ultimate).
10:50 is peak
Love how these old videos get remade :D
You can never forget about blue kirby cube
Wholesome channel
3:15 You said that Clefairy was considered or unused. But where's the source at? Neither TCRF nor Source Gaming had any info of Clefairy being considered to be a fighter in Smash. If you got the idea because of Pokemon Yellow and Pink source code leaks and Pikachu and Clefairy seen in the Gameboy Camera printer, that's not a valid explanation. Sakurai have stated clearly that all of the unlockables were reusing moves from other characters, considering they're a clone to another and Jigglypuff was chosen for it due to her having a similar shape as Kirby.
If you got it because of the "If it were a Smash 2" poll, then that's not the case as it comes after Smash 64's release. The same goes for Peach. She was never considered or planned to be a fighter in Smash 64 to begin with.
All of the considered and cut characters in Smash 64 are all of the Star Fox crew as an alt for Fox, Mewtwo, Bowser, King Dedede, and Marth.
The SmashWiki says that
Cool speculation.
Here's your source: archive.org/details/64dream-may-1999-ozidual/64Dream%201999%2005%20%28J%20OCR%29/page/n91/mode/1up
@@TetraBitGaming ah. Good show for Clefairy. But for Peach?
Not even the smash wiki stated that Peach was considered. Just rumors and Smash 2 poll. Unless it was mentioned in some magazine
Already answered, but Clefairy was intended to be the Pokémon mascot at one point in time. Though, by the time Red and Blue released outside of Japan, Pikachu had already become the primary mascot for the series.
I remember there is a 1-P mode Bonus that got its name changed from The original japanese version to the international one. If You win the match with a Motion Sensor Bomb You Will get The "Booby trap" bonus which was originally named "00 Agent" in the japanese version, a reference to GoldenEye 007. They didn't want to get in legal trouble with EON pictures it seems
23:29 - Sick beat.
Interesting how final smash moves were planned for this game
You should do lost bits on the angry birds games! There's a lot of interesting unused content in Angry birds space specifically.
Yeah! Maybe some day
Is there even cut content on angry birds?
@@randomperson6828well if we're talking the og angry birds, yeah all of it is cut content (cuz you can't get the game anymore)
@@randomperson6828 Yes. A lot of unused birds, sounds, levels, gimmicks. Ect.
11:20 Saying 行け is "Come on" will probably give people the wrong idea. The nuance is backwards. Rather than "come (towards me)", it means to "go (to that)". If the plan was to make Fox's final smash be like it is in Ultimate, where he commands his comrades to help him take down an enemy, then this utterance would fit contextually.
Moreover, I don't want people to mistake this as the "Come on" that Fox says in Melee as his taunt. That phrase comes from かかってこい (come at me). If you switch the game's language to Japanese, he'll say either the English or the Japanese phrase at random for his taunt, but they mean the same thing.
so the air dodge that was from melee and foward, was developed since 64, neat
Fun fact: Some people managed to get Dragon King into Super Smash Bros 64 remix.
Very great video tetra just lile always keep it up! :)
Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I wonder if having to silence fox's 「ミッション完了！」(Mission Kanryou) lead them to record his 「ミッションコンプリート！」 (Mission Complete!) for melee. It's odd they cared at all enough to do that though considering none of marth's lines would be translated for many years.
Heard you say "zee" and got worried. Thank goodness your Canadian stays pure. Zed zed zed 🇨🇦
Super Smash Bros. was the original #1 Victory Royale.
Blue Kirby Cube is my favorite Smash Bros character
I have to wonder what Kirby's Final Smash would of been in Smash 64. Yes, I know it probably was just Chef Kirby, but Kirby has a different Final Smash in each game, so I would love to imagine Kirby getting a completely different attack.
1:34
Is that.... A mushroom cloud?!
16:30 this is most likely a logo for fighting polygon team/ polygon corp
I think they didnt implement the pulsing effect on Jigglypuff's sing because would be a little hard to tell where the hitbox of the move is. It might make the move seem unfair.
Considering Jigglypuff is moving left and right while singing. It might lead to players to thinking that the move hit them when it didn't.
Or Maybe they deemed the pulsing effect too big? There is no way to know for sure.
What a crazy coincidence, I was JUST watching the original🤔
😳
Fox's "it's my turn" was used as his Japanese taunt if I recall
22:26 Oh Nah They Got Gojo Sealed in the Kirby Realm
at least some of the planned fighters were in smash melee and brawl
10:58
WE HAVE BEEN WEEZER'ED
so ones gonna talk about conker randomly appearing as a fighter during the video
PEAK RETURNED