The Mustang Mach1 and Camaro SS 1Le
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- The new 2021 Mustang Mach 1 on track and going against the Camaro SS 1Le in a hot lap shootout to see who's faster. Randy drives them both and shares his opinion on these two beauties! Ford or Chevy which do you pick??
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Thansk, Samuel, very cool. We threw this together in a day while my buddy Jack was in town with the Mach 1, and thx Kellen for the 'Mero
@@randypobstofficial does Kellen have a channel or somewhere I can reach out to him? I also live in GA and have a 1LE. Would love to teach him the ways!
Yeahman, Randy has the personality and good nature to make this channel rival at lot of other auto channels out there, definitely a million subscriber potential here especially if he does some international tracks. Like you said with time he'll refine his video style and audio!
@@randypobstofficial your production value is great! I enjoy these videos, you are an amazing race car driver and fun to watch!
I thought the production was fine…
BIGGEST thumbs up for using the same size and brand tire on both cars! I been wanting car comparos to do this for 25 years!
Crazy huh.
Understandably it "seems" fair when doing a car comparison to have the same tires available or on both cars but is it actually an honest result? The only reason I see for want of a different tire is hoping for better results over the competition. If the manufacturer sells the car with a specific tire or tire option then that's what you test with. The manufacturer knows what their competition is using and if they didn't want to use the same tire or a more capable tire then the end result is the end result. Having the same tires doesn't mean an equal playing field, what you get from the manufacturer is what you get.
Yeah now too bad one was auto and one was stick 😂
@@Kevin-MM69ex if you're track driving (and race teack comparisons only matter if you are) tires are one of the first things you change because it's reletively cheap and easy to do so. Seeing what the cars do on the same tires while noting that one comes with the better tires as stock equipment is the better way to compair IMO.
@@lb9gta307 That I can see and totally understand.
Really glad Randy is doing his own content! Legend doing legendary things💪🏼
Kudos for both cars. It's great to know that American muscle is alive and thriving.
American Pony*
Yeah over the past few years it's amazing to see how many Camaros and Mustangs are showing up to trackdays, and they are fast!
Not so much. Camaro vanishes in 2024
They are great cars. They are legit sports cars at this point.
@@anydaynow01 Crapmaro
Noticed that Randy prefers the reliability of the 5.0 engine compared to the Voodoo engine. Good to know.
I remember Randy questioning the long term reliability of the 350/350R back during its initial release in the MT reviews.
@Jack Dalisky lol the 5.0 is more closely related to the voodoo than you'd like. 7500rpm redline versus 8250. Less hp but more torque.
@Jack Dalisky bro, its got the same bore spacing as any other modular motor, lol. The cylinder heads and physical dimensions are the same (minus some better porting and camshafts) The only real difference is its non-traditional flat plane with cross plane counter weights, as well as a tiny bit of extra displacement lol. I'm not saying that it's not awesome, but its not some clean sheet special child. Ford is poor and did what they could with what they had.
@Jack Dalisky well I mean it is technically special with how it's throws are setup. Literally no one else does it like that. Probably because it has even worse vibration than a normal flat plane design. That's why there are counter weights lmao
@Jack Dalisky coming from an owner, if your looking for a collector car, gt350 all the way. If you want to go fast, any coyote will always outperform a voodoo. There are hundreds of examples of boosted coyotes from 1200-2000 horsepower, while I've only seen a handful of vodoo 5.2 making around 1000hp. The flatplane crank is its weakness.
Highlight of my entire 2022: discovering Randy has his own UA-cam channel! ❤️☺️
Thank you for reviewing two of my favorite muscle cars with your trademark honesty and enthusiasm. And THANK YOU to the drivers who lent their rides so we could all see this comparison.
Keep putting out your videos. I will keep watching. 💪
-Cheers from TX (also a Georgia boy!)
Best of all of 2022! On January 19, haha. Hey, I'll take it, Texican. very kind of you, and yes, thanks to the generous owners of the muscle cars we tested, Kellen and Jack.
That Ford is friggin Beautiful. Just an all around great car. Can do it all.
That looks like a gorgeous facility.
Very nice place, lots of elevation and corner variety, with a wild high-speed finish
I'd love to get the chance to drive there.
@@machdaddy6451
Several big downhills that finish with tight hairpin turns.
Will test your car haha
@@Highlander1432 absolutely Bruce...couple of blind turns as well
Nice job Randy, you know your stuff. This was very interesting in that you have the newest baddest 5.0 10R80 against a slightly used 3 year old manual 1LE with bad brakes but track alignment. I have to say I’m impressed the SS was so close even with its brake and loose rear conditions, love to see 2 10 speeds against each other. I really wish GM cared as much about the Camaro as Ford does the Mustang, in a perfect world Chevy would be putting LT2s in SSs now, and the new LT6 FPC DOHC 5.5 V8 from upcoming ZO6 in a Camaro Z/28, and why not put LT5 in the ZL1? These type cars are on the way out, I wish Chevy would put as much in it as Dodge and Ford have for the last muscle car war. Keep making your own videos Pobst, I’ll watch them religiously.
Never cared for the new design camaros. Even had a 1970 Z28 as a young man. Mustang did a better job retaining the look of the original redesign. IMHO
would love to see more of these!! get the helmet cam, mic audio, and a more similar setup on these cars squared away and these are going to be gold. nice job randy
@@johnosborn8881 good to hear man! I'd suggest trying to mount the gopro closer to Randy's eye level if he's comfortable with it! tedward did a great video explaining pov camera positioning if you got time to check it out. imo nothing does it like the pov of the driver on track 👌
Thanks for the advice , dad hats, we work with what we got. Great advice!
@@randypobstofficial
Yes, thank you! Still working on the correct helmet mic setup, etc.
Price. Price. Price. Love the Mustang but you can't beat the value of the 1LE.
That mustang though is more exclusive than a 1LE and it’s more comfortable to live with. That’s counts a lot for me personally.
The GM Alpha platform is one of the easiest vehicles to "live with" on the market today.
@@SpeedDemon88X I don’t think so Sells say other why’s and I recall the Maro is getting cancelled
@@sorason931 GM marketing is a disaster and the Alpha platform sells more than the Mustang.
And it will still out sale it almost 3 to 1
I own a 2019 SS 1LE and absolutely LOVE it! As a lifelong Mustang fan and owner, the 1LE SS is the better car.
clearly the Mustang is superior.
@Digital Tog And the beat goes on.
The modern Camaro and Mustang are two sides of the same coin, IMO. Camaro wins in the handling prowess and performance edge (low end torque ftw), but the Mustang wins the comfort and practicality category, and also gets a bonus point for having a unique, rev happy engine. Just depends on what you value more. Imo the ideal garage is a Mach 1 for a daily driver, and a ZL1 1LE for the weekends ;)
not really ture yes it was a good comparison but you take the new ss 1le and even it out with the 10 speed auto they have in 2020 and the factory break pads the Camaro wpuld take that mustang
@@GrandHuevotes it's 3 years newer, has the faster auto and costs 20k more. Not so clearly the winner. Lol
Great art and animations! The SS 1LE is definitely the value winner since the Mach is so expensive, but the Mach is definitely a pretty sweet product.
Yup, I came to the comments section to say: that Mach 1 is about $10k MORE than the Mustang. When you take price into account, the Camaro wins easily.
Kudos also to the Camaro owner. He knew specifically what he wanted and why, and chose the car best for him. 👍🏻
True eh?
You can fill a hole in the internet with ALOT more comparisons. Since the death of Head 2 Head on MT, there's nowhere to watch a real driver's driver shake down two cars.
Thanks, Michael! Yeah, I miss Head-to-Head also.
I agree. I think any car aficionado will watch Randy because of who he is. They trust his judgement and ability. If he can get his editor to do better on videos are start posting more REAL head to Heads (everything even on cars) and then time each track session....could be super successful. I'm sure Randy has other things going on though....
Randy is great, personable, humble and you know he's a spectacular driver. If you like comparisons like this, you might like throttlehouse.
@@danielmembrillo6472
You're not wrong, I saw Randy's channel, and I clicked the subscribe button as soon as it would let me.
That Camaro may have been a victim of the "I hate cleaning brake dust so I'm going to install ceramic pads" mentality. Probably a previous owner.
Yeah, Kellen had only owned it a month...
100% what I was thinking. As a gen 6 camaro owner, I see this happen a lot on the forums and camaro groups
I think you are correct my 19 ss 1le does not have that problem but I certainly have a break dust problem lol
That plus they get black/ dark rims...so they don't have to clean them.
1LE all day
Thank you Randy and the filming crew!
Both are great cars. It's amazing to see what these cars have become over the last decade. We're definitely in a golden age of muscle.
I didn't know you had your own channel! Randy keep at it! you're my favorite part of any other car channel you guest on and now that I know you have your own, it should be fantastic!
“Woo!!”
You have a new subscriber!!
Even though I know the automatic is faster, I would still pick a manual transmission. You get one of these cars because they are fun, and being a manual just makes it more fun.
I am not sure I know its bad but if you double clutch out of those corners you could pull away from that automatic.
@@chrismorris9475
You are right. I’m not sure you know
@@chrismorris9475 that is not true. The way people were incredibly fast with manuals is keeping their foot on the gas and shifting very fast. This is very bad for the trans but it is fast. Unfortunately for your theory, modern autos now power through the ultra fast shift. There is no reduction in throttle built into the tuning. Which means it’s literally impossible to be faster in a manual. Go drive one. The 1-2 shift of a modern auto sports car is violent, and if you drive one you will immediately think “ok there’s no way I’m touching that in a manual”
On a pre 18 mustang yes manual all day but 18+ 10r80 will win everytime , 17 and older defimtley manual trans
@@chrismorris9475 absolutely not. The TR6060 is not beating the 10 speed auto no matter who is behind the wheel.
I wonder what traction setting it was at. If it's in eDiff Sport 2 or track, stability/vehicle dynamics are supposed to be off. Just the fact alone that the Camaro is a M6 makes it the winner in this. Let alone the crazy price difference.
My respect to the two gentlemen who loaned their cars for this video. 🍻
That camaro is a magical car man..
U can tell bro was having way more fun in that maro 🤣🤣🤣
Well, it is a manual.
4 tenths people, give me the stick shift 40,000 mile old Camaro any day
A brand new 1SS 1LE is also $10,000 less than a similarly equipped Mach 1.
@@nigel_white
Wow.
Did not realize that
@@nigel_white might be $20k with Ford dealer markups
@@nigel_white and when you get inside and live with one for a while you know why the difference in price. The Camaro might have impressive numbers but in day-to-day driveability and comfort the Mustang run circles around it
@@nigel_white yea I was looking at the mach 1 till I saw the 1ss 1le. Thing is a monster and all it needs is some headers with a tune and that mustang will be dusted.👌
Randy said LS think he meant LT1 9:26
It’s ok your still the man!
@@saltyfloridaman7163 Those are just option codes. It was the public that latched onto the LS name because it was a small block but not a Chevy small block and people wanted an easy way to define it. There have been other engines with an LSx option code just like there have been other engines with an LTx option code. But yes, the current LT1 is basicly just a 6.2L LS with GDI.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 because it isn't. It's a corperate GM engine not created by the Chevrolet division unlike the Chevy small block and have next to nothing related to Chevy small blocks. They're also not "adopted into other GM vehicles" since they were designed from the start to replace the Chevy in everything it was used in. Corvette just gets the latest stuff first.
Whomever is complaining about video quality is not listening to a pro talk speed! Thanks, Randy!!
Thanks Bro. 🏁
He didn't like the flat plane crank in the Shelby? But he likes high revs? What?
Contradiction because he can’t get a new one anymore?
Flat plane crank motors tend to beat themselves to death when pushed.
@@dragoonTT The Flat-plane vibrates a lot and bearings can't handle racing long term.
Frankly, it is not a properly-engineered flat-plane crank. Fine for street, but don't endurance race it, it won't last.
@@randypobstofficial
What about the updated Gen2 engines?
Finally the MACH 1 is back! I can’t Waite for the Drag-Pak version with the tweaked GODZILLA under the hood!
Great video Randy! I just sold my 2018 1LE. It was a blast while I owned it, truly an amazing package for the money. Just couldn't pass up this crazy used car market, got $6k more than I paid for it. My crystal ball says I'll have another later on when prices settle back down.
Thx a mill. I think you are right AWDMK4
I can’t believe someone paid for it, it’s amazing how desperate or stupid people are. Why not wait a year or two for things go back to normal.
@@al151 myself I'm fighting the urge to buy a new car. So tired of fixing my beater but it's such a bad time to buy a new car. And also the best time to get rid of old cars. Except I need my beater. Lol
@@dnegel9546 ended up ordering a 2022 2ss 1le in December and the car was built last week. Hoping to get it next month. It will be a good weather/track car. I paid for msrp so if you are willing to wait a little, you can get a brand new car under warranty! Good luck.
Great video. Highly entertaining.
He’s had the car a month then goes to the track and hands the keys over to Randy Pobst. Randy is about the only person in the world I’d feel comfortable doing that with. Richard Hammond on the other hand…
I’ve had the opposite experience. The better the driver the more freaking nuts they are. Yeah he might be less likely to put it into a wall, but I promise randy is absolutely punishing that car.
@@user-yq6ov6ow7l well you know going into it that he’s going to be putting it through the ringers if you’re taking it to a track. That’s what you’re signing up for. But it most likely won’t end up in a ball of fire like it would with Hammond. I see your point though.
@@JonBecker81 You are correct that nothing mechanically good happens to the actual car on a track-benefit its a great hobby for grins and friendship-well worth it for me, thanks Jack
5000 rpms at 107 mph its my fistlap going to be careful lol 9:40
Great test review! Wish the 1LE had the 10 speed as well, would love to see the difference on that alone never mind the brake fade issue. GM / Ford 10 speed is one slick tranny.
The current 2020/ 21 Camaro 1le SS has 10 speed in which he should have compared
I have a 10 speed ss 1le and let me tell you, GAME CHANGER
@@thagoon8000 game changer for someone who can not drive a manual yes but in the right hands the manual is just as fast as the auto around the track. Especially with the lighter weight, longer second and third gear, rev match, more power to the ground with less drive train loss(20whp difference) . The only advantage that auto has is on the long straights depending on what gear you are on the speed will be higher.
Nice vid! "A little a$$y in the corners" - gonna remember that one for use at my next HPDE. I'm a hard-core BMW enthusiast, but keep thinking back to my old fox body GT/manual from college. The Mach 1 is really checking a lot of boxes for me. Had a HPDE student a couple years back with a GT350R that I was able to drive on track - really brought Ford back into my radar, but I don't think the Shelby is quite right for me. The Mach 1 really gets me thinking....
Mustang gang for life
Such a good comparison the Mach 1 is the only mustang id buy besides the gt500 if only it was a little more affordable
love you randy.. much love from canada..
Love back Dude, thx a mill
I guess we’re not taking into account the fact that the Mach 1 is about $15k-$20k more expensive than the Camaro?
Pony Wars, Love it.👌
Classic battle
Good stuff Randy. Less music in my opinion when your talking. I like to hear all your inputs
Thanks for the feedback, we are listening. Thx on inputs.
Working a lot harder in the 1LE compared to the Mach 1. Looked like had more fun in the Camaro as well. Both are great every day cars that you can take to the track and have a lot of fun. The price disparity between the two cars brand new is huge though. A Mach 1 with the track package will run you north of $60k and a well equipped one is almost $70k. The Camaro well equipped with the 1LE package is less than $55k. That is a huge difference in price that will help you afford tires on those track days if you go with the 1LE.
Randy you mention you don't like the Flat Plane Crank Voodoo in the GT350, but then I couldn't hear why. Why don't you like it? Was it something about durability? Great video review!
It's good for street use, occasional 8000 rpm, but it does not hold up to racing at constant high revs. Too much vibration.
The Camaro looked like a lot more work. ✌
Because the SS1LE wasn't stock, that was the biggest mistake on this test
Because the Camaro has a manual transmission.
@@jmmch3358 it was stock lol
@@blaqjac21 no. Wrong brake pads, not stock tires and wheels, and bad alignment.
@@jmmch3358 how are you going to tell me about MY car ? The brake pads were stock it just had upgraded fluid . The alignment was STOCK PER GM SERVICE MANUAL . I removed those pads im not sure what caused them to perform that way they just never felt great after the first road atlanta track day i used them on . They chose to use these tires but as stated before were not new tires like on the mustang , big difference .
POV on point.
I wanna take my 02 z28 to that track...she loves being abuse
The best thing about watching older people making content is they're not try-hards and don't think everything needs to be a meme
I know it's subjective but I like the way the Mustang looks better
Imagine if the Mach 1 had the same displacement as the Chevy. It's making serious power with only a 5 liter. I wonder how much power a 6.2 liter Coyote would make?
Interesting question : I have a NA Mustang ‘19 GT : a few options
CAI ; 90mm throttle body ; ported manifold: 1 7/8 headers (100cel cat) ;
H-pipe and Tune . 544 rwhp which must be over 600 hp crank hp - nice power without forced induction .
@@Steveaustin007 LMAOOO no you don't
@@Ws6Ms the joke is on you then - I have 2 Mustangs- look up Rob Herrod Australia’s best Ford guy - does all my cars .
@@delusion2987 essentially the engines could be built to any capacity and be 4cam /32 valve. Lamborghini make a nice 6.5 V12 lots of torque & kw. The good news is GM have woken up with the 5.5 32v / 4 cam C8 Z06.
At 9:40 you notice a dash pad... and then it dissapeared...
This is what I want to see, Randy testing the latest sports cars. More of this please Randy
Randy I would love for you to test my GT350 against a Mach 1 at Sebring if you are up for it!
Randy, you are, and have been the last word for me when it comes these types of comparisons! Great vid!! I hope you keep going for years to come, brother 👍👍
Didn't know Randy had his own channel lol instant sub for one the American Chris Harris hahaha
The cars that Randy has surprise me, given his racing prowess.
Yeah me too. 🙃
@@randypobstofficial give us a short list? 🙏
The handling pack Mach1 has camber plates so you can do a track set up. I have Steeda camber plates on my non handling pack Mach1, (actually, the entire under carriage is all Steeda suspension farkles.) I
Have the track axis punch marks (max caster too) and the street setting axis punch marks on my strut tower. You can jack the car up, loosen the camber plate nuts and be move the suspension (helps to have a buddy spotting) and lock it down. Track ready in less than 15 minutes with a Jack and a 17mm socket fired up. Truth be told, with all of the steeda sway bars/links, vertical links, adjustable rear toe arms, sub frame alignment spacers, rear IRS braces, front K 2-point brace, magneride springs-- 10x19 fronts, 11x19 rears from LMR. The car is a bit more track oriented than the stock car (which is decent for track days), but no so over wrought as to take away the day to day drivability.
Great comparison! love both cars, I went from an 18 ss 1LE to a 19 ZL1 love the power of the ZL1 but man i miss the way the 1LE handled, always enjoy Randy's driving and reviews.
Just now learning the difference between ZL1 and 1LE, confusing badging too me. I also have trouble with Toronto watch and tornado warning. Yeah I know, its not the subject, it’s my brain. Really enjoyed this video.
Did ford finally get smart and put some brembos on there mustangs?!? *GASP*...crowds everywhere will appreciate that!!
Man, as close as these were, I would have loved to see it with two new "as delivered" cars. So many unknowns on a used car, like you mentioned the brake pads or needing a brake flush. I'm a GM guy, but I have to respect that Mach I. I've always loved the Mach I and Boss brands.
Me too....Mustangs got me into Camaros...LOL
Very true so many unknown with used cars, does it have a tune, he said the ass end kicks out does it have taller shorter gears, aftermarket clutch, suspension mods??? Was in a track alignment.... Anything to help it or not help it in comparison to a factory car.
Well tell GM to give him a new one to test next time lol.
@@The2001cobra its was a bone stock car just had bigger tires on it than factory which was provided for this video . I figured out the issue on the rear end coming around . Front control arm loosened up , replaced the bolt and nut per gm . Also replaced pads with did a longer flush and she was solid .
@@The2001cobra camaro was also on used tires
A four-year old Camaro with worn pads and old brake fluid, at half the price of the brand new Mach 1. Can't beat that with a stick.
GM co-developed the 10 speed with Ford ... as well as the old 6 speed (twenty years ago).
Yep, we pulled this together very last minute, since the Mach 1 was right here in town. We are heading for a rematch. 👍
With the braking problems on the 1LE, I'm betting they've not been heated & bedded (or they're glazed/old/substandard pads) and it's not filled with DOT4 or 5.1 fluid. Normally those things are facerippers and nearly impossible to fade.
Glad that Randy put the Sport Cups on the SS to even out the cars.
Yeah, I think you are right. Unusual to have a 1LE not stop, and the pads did look a bit worn.
I bet it still has the factory brake fluid with 40k miles on it; maybe all it needs is fresh fluid.
@Nathan Amaral I agree. however, with a track alignment like the 1LE had the advantage likely goes back to the Mustang. I would like to see the same test with a newer, auto 1LE and both having the track alignment.
Would be a better comparison to use a Camaro 2 SS 1LE A10 transmission.
Love your insightful & enthusiastic reviews, whether it's on UA-cam or Motortrend. Thank you.
Didn't even know you had your own UA-cam channel Randy! Glad you gave up being the resident hot shoe for Insert Name Here: ________________ :D
Watching Randy drive, and LISTENING to him during a run and after....he is, and always has been my favorite driver to observe.
Just....pure talent.
And, his ability to "relay" his observations of the smallest nuance of what makes great cars great.
THANK YOU, Randy.
You are the Man.
"Who Whooooo"
(to quote him)
Randy, I believe that you have the horsepower, that if you speak the necessary people will listen. So, begin talking about bringing back Trans-Am.Also, test a new Challenger, I suspect it's too heavy and the brakes will give up, but the old Trans-Am Teams always seemed to have workarounds for such problems. wouldn't it be great to see that Camaro in Sunoco blue and Yellow chasing that
Mustang around and how would the Challenger do?
Let's Go Randy!
Wat opinion does anyone have about the Gt Ford Mustang? I’m in Australia will the parts b hard to get ? Any advice would b appreciated .
I would love to see Mach one automatic vs Mach one manual on the same track! :-)
Both are fire🔥🔥🔥
Great to see Randy pick the mustang for once!
Loaded auto Mach 1, Loaded 2021 auto SS 1le, and loaded 2021 M4 competition. The people want to know.
Great video Randy! I love both of those cars. Ya left out the part where ya pulled the Camaro over and threw away that atrocious dash pad!! 😆 Good stuff!!!
Randy FTW 🏁🏁🏁!! Best test driver in history!!
Randy I have been watching you put down fast lap times for more years than I can remember, I just found out about your channel and I look forward to all your future content.
I did not know you had your own Chanel. I’ll be coming back for more 😎👍🏻🇺🇸
Love the vids Randy
Thx a mill.
Do you still work for Motor Trend Randy? This is a man that I would pay to teach me how to drive a high end sports car - If I could ever afford one someday.
Camaro over: Corvette and Mustang. Just cause I'm DIFFERENT
Wow I almost forgot about the 1LE lol good match up
Love the video! I've got a 18 ss1le and love the thing! Both cars are 👌
Ford is always a winner
Hey Randy, I noticed different helmets and you were very hard to understand with that full face helmet. Much clearer with the open face helmet you used in the camaro. Love your reviews.
Looks like Ford did it's home work. The SS 1LE didnt really have any competition from Mustang in my opinion.
Shelby, yes, GT, no.
@randy do you think you'll redo this test when you can get a hold of the 2021 or 2022 Chevy ss 1le with the 10 speed auto? That's available now. Originally 1les were only manuals. Additionally the 1le didn't have the oem 1le rims that are forged for weight reduction, not sure if those z/28 reps are heavier or not.
Thanks for doing these videos, love that you can hear your passion for cars in every ride!
@Ryan Kinmartin, those are NOT Z/28 wheels. Replica or otherwise. Completely different design. I own a 2015 Z/28.
Mach 1 with handling pack comes with adjustable front camber plates easily adjusted.
Love your way of breaking down the handling characteristics of each car, and why that possibly is, yes the audio wasn't great, but this is easily the best review of these two cars!! Need to see more reviews like this Randy!! Keep up the great work!!
When your not a professional driver who drives the same track over and over... VISIBILITY Matters.
The owner of the Camaro is either ex military or his parents taught him how to respect people. Kudos to him and his car.
Everyone should call Randy Sir, infact, he should be knighted :P Sir Randy Pobst!
Yep I was in the air force for some time
Randy, could you go into the weeds on your experience regarding the flat plane crank in the 350 and it not being happy long term on the track?
Simple: excess vibration due to an improper design. Driver can feel it. It damages it's bearings if run at 8000 rpm long term. The Mustang teams do not race it. GT500 is cross-plane again, and GT still is.
I have a lot of respect for the Camaro. Over the years it's forced the Mustang to keep getting better. I really thought that it was going to go the the Camaro. I was really tickled that the Mach 1 prevailed, because I just bought one. If it had been a ZL1 1LE, I sure that it would've prevailed.
not any more
Was close! ZL1 would go against GT500, that's a close one, too, especially on a longer run.
@@raduziub79 prove it then
@@raduziub79 No it won’t.
Dinosaurs racing Dinosaurs. Boring
Yo, I didn’t know you had a dang channel. Had I known sooner, I would have subbed sooner!
So shocking an older 40k mile Comaro, did almost an identical time as a new Mach 1! So impressive! Especially being manual versus auto!!
I’m a mustang guy but Camaro always been the best track car out of the big 3 muscle cars by far. Even the lowest trim Camaros are track ready.. mustang u gotta pay a extra shit ton and still doesn’t get the chassis of a Camaro, i jus prefer mustang looks slightly
@@1LE_Ciko I totally agree!
Anyone notice the dash cover at 9:40 then no cover at 9:42
We for got to remove it . It flew around everywhere
I’m in a rental Mustang GT with the 10 spd and wow! You are spot on about the transmission figuring stuff out. A bit jerky som times but when you give it hell it’s perfecto 👌. The 5.0 have a great should and power. Need to see about an SS test drive and I can decide my next car finally.
It’s has and adaptive learning transmission.. at first I thought my shit was broken lol but as it learns your driving style the jerking occurs way less
4/10ths of a second on a manual vs an auto. Plus those questionable brakes...the 1LEs stock brakes, properly worn in shouldn't have those issues. Sounds like round 2 with an auto 1LE would be a different story.
The sheer joy you have for driving/racing comes through in every video. The raw honesty in your commentary is refreshing and greatly appreciated. Thanks for doing what you do!
I want that Mach1 so bad. I would go with the tremec manual tranny, but the 10 speed is really amazing.