What Makes A Movie So Bad It's Good?

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  • Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
  • Shot in a Swedish sauna.
    What makes a movie so good it’s bad? Well I think I should start by saying the mythical movie that is utterly dreadful but entirely enjoyable is really a very rare beast.
    There are hundreds of movies that are ‘so bad they’re good’ but I’d argue that these are mostly just terrible movies.
    Films Mentioned:
    Plan 9 From Outer Space (1959), Santa Claus Conquers The Martians (1964), Manos: The Hands Of Fate (1966), Karate Girl (1974), Yor, The Hunter From The Future (1983), The Roller Blade Seven (1991), The Beginning: The Making Of 'Episode I' (2001), The Room (2003), Catwoman (2004), Double Down (2005), The Wicker Man (2006), Disaster Movie (2008), Birdemic (2010), Jack And Jill (2011), Movie 43 (2013), I, Frankenstein (2014), Cool Cat Saves The Kids (2015).

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  • @HonorWillow
    @HonorWillow 4 роки тому +52

    Apparently Tommy Wiseau wanted to have a flying car in the Room and someone asked him why and he just said "maybe Johnny is a vampire" and walked away

    • @dekai7992
      @dekai7992 2 роки тому +5

      This one made me very happy. Thank you!

    • @zetetick395
      @zetetick395 Рік тому +1

      He is the Wise One

  • @mondothegrunt7649
    @mondothegrunt7649 6 років тому +557

    No lava lamp, no will to live

    • @nero3k
      @nero3k 6 років тому +22

      Know lava lamp, know love. No lava lamp, no love.

    • @TheHabitual77
      @TheHabitual77 6 років тому +3

      Easy honey, it won't help to get mad.

    • @tunainoil
      @tunainoil 5 років тому +3

      So would you say you are fed up with this world?

    • @teachthemtruedarkness4048
      @teachthemtruedarkness4048 5 років тому +1

      tunainoil every lava lamp betray me

    • @trollop_7
      @trollop_7 4 роки тому

      You do all realise that the lamp is never there, don't you?

  • @Enzo012
    @Enzo012 4 роки тому +29

    Got to love the behind the scenes of Phantom Menace with George Lucas saying something and everyone else nodding away but then nervously glancing around the room while he's not looking. They all wanted to say something but no-one would dare.

  • @Rubashow
    @Rubashow 6 років тому +564

    "They're eating her! And then they're going to eat me too!
    Oh my goooooooooooo...
    ... Oh hai Mark."

    • @perfectpersona7861
      @perfectpersona7861 6 років тому +21

      Rubashow they are tearing her apart!... Liza?

    • @yolemswag3312
      @yolemswag3312 6 років тому +5

      I get that ChrisStuckman reference

    • @tristanhartup4936
      @tristanhartup4936 6 років тому +8

      GARBAGE DAY!

    • @mrJety89
      @mrJety89 5 років тому +3

      I'd say that was the hai Mark of those movies. ps. mst3k forever

    • @hansjuker8296
      @hansjuker8296 5 років тому +2

      He doesn't say too....he says....then they're gonna eat me. Oh my Gooooohhhd

  • @BarkyLondon
    @BarkyLondon 6 років тому +239

    I only recently watched "Manos: The Hands of Fate" on my quest to explore bad movies. I wasn't actually sure I was watching a coherent film until about halfway through, and then it became clear that there actually is no upper limit to how bad a movie can get until it becomes a weird form of psychological torture. Anyway can't recommend it enough 10/10

    • @DarthPerkins
      @DarthPerkins 6 років тому +36

      BarkyLondon
      You probably missed it, but when one of the girls meets Torgo, her eyes travel down his body and then she has a look of horror on her face. This looks like she is horrified at his crotch.
      There was supposed to an insert shot of Torgo's goat legs, causing her distress, but they ran out of money.

    • @davidmayberry3190
      @davidmayberry3190 5 років тому +2

      @@DarthPerkins The master wouldn't approve.

    • @whenthemusicsover6028
      @whenthemusicsover6028 5 років тому +2

      +Lee Perkins It's not Torgo, it's Carrot Hand-Staff Man. :)

    • @judsongaiden9878
      @judsongaiden9878 4 роки тому +1

      Have you seen Street Trash?

    • @pauleckert4321
      @pauleckert4321 4 роки тому

      Nonthing beats the amazing Bulk. Nonthing.......

  • @ravenlord4
    @ravenlord4 6 років тому +46

    I think one key is when the movie is totally incapable of causing a suspension of disbelief at any point during the viewing. The movie's existence in and of itself breaks the fourth wall, or rather that that wall is simply never created to begin with. The movie goes meta and it's like you are watching a documentary about the movie and the artist responsible. And absolutely, this has to be unintentional. That's the punchline that gets the laughs.

  • @isstuff
    @isstuff 5 років тому +19

    I worked on I Frankenstein doing the visual effects (the fire souls in the scenes you showed were part of our work), the trick is to enjoy the process of making the thing and not required the complete film to be good. I haven’t worked on many films that ended up being a good film. So enjoying the process is essential.

  • @dirtypisspinko
    @dirtypisspinko 6 років тому +148

    I couldn't see anything but the massive scuff on the table in the bottom left corner. You should hide it with something, like a small retro object that emits ambient light.

    • @TheAustralianMapper5378
      @TheAustralianMapper5378 4 роки тому +12

      Like some sort of lamp.

    • @beesree39
      @beesree39 4 роки тому +5

      OceaniaMapping some sort of magma lamp

    • @beesree39
      @beesree39 4 роки тому

      Johnny hmmm maybe it should be called a lava lamp :0
      (I hope you knew I knew the difference lol)

  • @DarkLordFluffee
    @DarkLordFluffee 6 років тому +115

    there really needs to be more discussion about Niel Breen. People always point to Wiseau, but all he really has is The Room and the fame surronding it. Breen has like 5 films, most of them just reskins and repeats of older films, like he doesn't edit and rewrite his films at first, he just makes them, and then remakes them again but slightly more coherent.

    • @DarkLordFluffee
      @DarkLordFluffee 6 років тому +19

      on paper? yes. In reality? Breen can craft a more coherent narrative, but he can only write like 4 paper-thin supporting characters along with an all powerful self insert character.

    • @voilvelev6775
      @voilvelev6775 5 років тому +19

      The difference is that Wiseau has some weird charisma to him. His acting is so weird that its facsinating to watch. Breen on the other hand is more boring. His incompetnce and total lack of selfawarness is hilarious and I love it, but I can clearly see why he's not as memorable for the general audience as much as Wiseau is.

    • @davidmayberry3190
      @davidmayberry3190 5 років тому +12

      I don't care what he makes as long as he beats the holy fuck out of some outdated laptops I'm there!!!

    • @arlosteiner8382
      @arlosteiner8382 5 років тому +1

      Telling me you've never seen Neighbors brah?

    • @Screamingmanta
      @Screamingmanta 5 років тому +4

      #eyesonbreen

  • @CYTBlitz
    @CYTBlitz 6 років тому +306

    Wh...Where's the lava lamp?
    I personally was hoping that, when you got your new set, the entire background would be shelves lined completely with row after row of lava lamps.

    • @merkules6
      @merkules6 6 років тому +9

      That would look... awesome.

    • @mitrooper
      @mitrooper 6 років тому +7

      It almost exploded in his face, so he got rid of it.

    • @MrBroken030
      @MrBroken030 6 років тому +6

      #bringbackthelavalamp

    • @CYTBlitz
      @CYTBlitz 6 років тому +1

      Is that why his background is messed up?

  • @Xegethra
    @Xegethra 6 років тому +350

    Well, at least the Wicker Man remake also had him dressed as a bear and then straight up decking a girl.....

    • @mrmanceres7653
      @mrmanceres7653 6 років тому +26

      Wickermans remakes major issue , after badly smashing two scripts together that is, is they did not let Cage be Cage he was obviously being restrained from his normal Cage performance.

    • @mrmanceres7653
      @mrmanceres7653 6 років тому +43

      Correct Cage's acting was very caged so we did not get full uncaged Cage.

    • @Kevin_Street
      @Kevin_Street 6 років тому +7

      Yeah, there are more fun moments than just the bees. But in the end there aren't enough to make the movie enjoyable.

    • @MisterBones2910
      @MisterBones2910 6 років тому +22

      *H O W ' D I T G E T B U R N E D*

    • @jordanpeakofficial
      @jordanpeakofficial 6 років тому +1

      The best part of the film

  • @unlimited-edge
    @unlimited-edge 6 років тому +22

    I remember I found a definition of “so bad it’s good” in the comment section of an RLM vid that fit so perfectly I use it as my own personal definition now - essentially a “so bad it’s good” Movie is when the events happening in a movie are so odd and weird - whether it be the actual events happening, the acting, line delivery, shot composition, editing choices, or any thing really - that the movie itself accidentally becomes an absurdist and surreal comedy. Best example is The Room - Tommy’s weird as fuck acting and line delivery are so weird that it’s comedic, especially with the backdrop of the film trying to be a serious drama about relationships.

  • @tjc-oj9cz
    @tjc-oj9cz 4 роки тому +8

    Your reaction to the musical scene from "Jack & Jill" was funnier than the actual scene!

  • @Jaremaing14
    @Jaremaing14 6 років тому +72

    You're like a Renaissance UA-camr. How is it that you can grace us with such a range of content?

  • @WolfeSpeider
    @WolfeSpeider 6 років тому +138

    A real human Breen...

    • @hotdog5178
      @hotdog5178 6 років тому +22

      WolfeSpeider I can't believe you committed suicide. I CANNOT believe you committed suicide...this scene dethrones Tommy Wiseau's I did not hit her scene.

    • @tigerburn81
      @tigerburn81 6 років тому +7

      . . . and a real gyro.

    • @Kacpa2
      @Kacpa2 6 років тому +1

      WolfeSpeider "Welcome to City17! You have chosen or been chosen to relocate to one of our finest remaining urban centres...."

    • @ibragimsameev7792
      @ibragimsameev7792 6 років тому +1

      A suBreen human being...

    • @GrandCorsair
      @GrandCorsair 6 років тому +4

      The mans a comedy breenus.

  • @GreatWonderMoose
    @GreatWonderMoose 6 років тому +63

    I saw Neil Breen in the thumbnail and immediately clicked.

  • @OdiousCoprophagus
    @OdiousCoprophagus 4 роки тому +6

    "so bad it's good" is a meta, abstract version of a dramatic tragedy, where the conflict and payoff for the viewer lies not within the actual work itself, but in the full creative process of the creators of the oiece. The creators display hubris proportional to the badness of the art, and the substance, or the good, lies in the failure and mockery of the creators.

  • @TheRyscope
    @TheRyscope 6 років тому +109

    Just want to say I love your content.

    • @ontologicallysteve7765
      @ontologicallysteve7765 6 років тому +8

      Kyle the potato Just want to say that I love that you love his content.
      Lastly, I love your name. Ironically enough, I identify as a potato. Spud fluidity best describes me.

    • @wherestheleakmaam1543
      @wherestheleakmaam1543 4 роки тому +2

      @@ontologicallysteve7765 just want to say i love how you love how they love his content.
      I also want to say that I really love your confidence in your identity.
      I myself don't identify as a potato, but as a tomato and in the end, aren't we much alike? Love you

    • @irishjoe2941
      @irishjoe2941 4 роки тому +2

      where's the leak ma'am? I just want to say I love how you love that they love his content and respect that they identify as a potato and since you identify as a Tomato that is very courageous of you to say so on a platform like UA-cam since you could receive some Toxic comments, and because of your courage I want to say that identify as a Sausage and I know a lot a people will make Homophobic comments to my Identity but your courage will help me threw the hate, Thank you so much!...

    • @tree4318
      @tree4318 4 роки тому

      @@wherestheleakmaam1543 hey bb, I just want to show my appreciation you have for all this appreciation. Rock on dank boi.

  • @LanceEhlers
    @LanceEhlers 6 років тому +17

    NO RETREAT, NO SURRENDER (1986) = My vote for the most consistently entertaining and re-watchable "bad" movie I've ever seen. It's overflowing with absurd, quotable moments, it's never boring, and it earnestly attempts to be good.

    • @hotdog5178
      @hotdog5178 6 років тому +1

      Lance Ehlers Seattle karate vs. L.A. karate. I never knew there was a difference until I saw this movie.

    • @Stuurminator
      @Stuurminator 6 років тому +2

      If we're handing out recommendations, I'm going to throw down IN THE NAME OF THE KING: A DUNGEON SIEGE TALE (2007) from the always reliable Uwe Boll. It's a roller coaster ride of inexplicable events, brain-pickling dialogue, and actors who are way too good for this shit and obviously know it, but the plot is coherent enough to follow and (most importantly) the pace never drags. It's an extremely watchable and, in my mind, underappreciated good bad movie.

  • @thisisEHAM
    @thisisEHAM 6 років тому +102

    Never clicked so fast. You're a hidden gem on youtube, Georg!

    • @citycrusher9308
      @citycrusher9308 6 років тому +1

      He's got over a 100 000 subs. He isn't that hidden

  • @pedrolopez8057
    @pedrolopez8057 4 роки тому +19

    Remember this was before "Cats". For those of you in the future "Cats" was the movie that triggered the apocalyptic 20/21 collapse.

  • @edwardtoyebo9690
    @edwardtoyebo9690 4 роки тому +3

    Yor, Hunter from the Future is my favorite good/bad film. This one never lets up. Reb Brown says there were New York posters for the film which featured a tag line which was a line of dialogue from the film. I wont spoil that here. One of the worst line deliveries of all time. Love this movie.

  • @gorequillnachovidal
    @gorequillnachovidal 6 років тому +30

    How about Silent Deadly Night 2 when the guy says "its garbage day!" and shoots that bloke taking the trash out?

    • @chucklebutt4470
      @chucklebutt4470 4 роки тому +7

      The whole movie is under-rated, it's fucking fantastic

    • @saschamayer4050
      @saschamayer4050 4 роки тому +2

      Just saw it because of your comments and I was very entertained. Cool movie!

    • @trailersic
      @trailersic 4 роки тому +4

      I have seen SNDNP2 about a million times. I hesitate to put it in 'So bad it's good' because they had an incredibly limited budget, were ordered to simply recut the original film into a flashback movie. But managed to make half an extremely entertaining movie, and the humorous acting and kills are very much intentional but still funny.
      So it's a film trying to be gory & funny all while fulfilling the role of cashgrabbing by re-editing the first film, and it's successful in everything it attempts to be. So it's just a really good cheap horror comedy!

  • @nagualdesign
    @nagualdesign 4 роки тому +6

    _"It's about a hacker whose childhood sweetheart - her childhood, not his - ..."_
    😂...

  • @BlackStudies
    @BlackStudies 4 роки тому +5

    _Jaws: The Revenge_ his hands down my favorite "so bad it's good" movie. From the very first scene when Sean Brody loses his first arm by leaning over the boat, and then loses his other arm by leaning over the other side of the boat 😆 to the very end when for some reason the shark rears out of the water and starts roaring like a lion 😆😆😆 pretty much everything in between had me in stitches! Psychic connection between Ellen Brody and the shark...😂😂😂

  • @Karpin122
    @Karpin122 6 років тому +142

    The only way one can watch Manos is if you watch the Mystery Science Theatre 3000 version

    • @apexone5502
      @apexone5502 6 років тому +11

      Justahippe only that show has the power to make Manos palatable.

    • @Burningwithecstasy
      @Burningwithecstasy 6 років тому +13

      Manos was so bad they had to give it the MST3K treatment twice. They made a Rifftrax edition, which I'm working up the courage to watch, soon.

    • @winey2139
      @winey2139 5 років тому +3

      " 'Manos: The Hands of Fate' was filmed on location in a vacant lot."

    • @davidozab2753
      @davidozab2753 4 роки тому +2

      The only episode in which both Mads apologize.

    • @Chris-Brown-
      @Chris-Brown- 4 роки тому

      Watch Begotten, then watch Manos

  • @stormtrooper9404
    @stormtrooper9404 4 роки тому +3

    "Tammy and the T-Rex" is my all time champion!
    Its so derailed and crazy from the begining to the end... so there are no scene when you are'nt questioning: "what they were thinking of?!!" or "How this even got approved?!"
    Yet as bad as it is,it simultanesly batshit crazy and fun that I thoroughly enjoy watching it 🤣
    Oh and Denise Richards is a treasure 😉

  • @GameplayandTalk
    @GameplayandTalk 6 років тому +67

    Manos looks like just the kind of movie I need. I have trouble falling asleep and I think watching it will help.

    • @ChristianSpliess
      @ChristianSpliess 6 років тому +4

      It will. Definitely. The first 15 minutes should do that.

    • @perfectpersona7861
      @perfectpersona7861 6 років тому +5

      Only if you can handle the induced nightmares.

    • @Chorochronchotor
      @Chorochronchotor 6 років тому +2

      If it's eternal sleep you're looking for, sure.

  • @tph2010
    @tph2010 6 років тому +11

    The Room is damn entertaining, watching it in a theater full of people was one of the best cinema experience I've had.

  • @filmdrifter8166
    @filmdrifter8166 6 років тому +1

    Wow! What a great rundown of the phenomenon. It basically sums up my own thoughts on "great" bad movies to a point. Only, I was not able to work them out so coherently myself. Thanks for straighting it out for me!

  • @booooooooohut
    @booooooooohut 6 років тому +49

    "...her childhood, not his" - Amazing xD

  • @ChestersonJack
    @ChestersonJack 6 років тому +37

    I love your content, and these videos are much more digestible to me than the 40 minute ones. Thank you.

    • @ChestersonJack
      @ChestersonJack 6 років тому

      Robbie Rotten They’re his podcasts that he posts on here.

  • @Strideo1
    @Strideo1 6 років тому +56

    Yor: The Hunter From the Future?
    We're going to need a lot more hemp before we're through!

    • @huxleyable
      @huxleyable 6 років тому +7

      Man I miss Spoony...

    • @Strideo1
      @Strideo1 6 років тому +4

      huxleyable
      Yeah, he was really great back in the day.

    • @megadeth1818
      @megadeth1818 6 років тому +3

      he was number one

  • @shaterlemming2549
    @shaterlemming2549 6 років тому +95

    No mention of Samurai Cop? I am disappointed.

    • @VampMorbius
      @VampMorbius 6 років тому +9

      i was thinking the same thing

    • @MichaelLeroi
      @MichaelLeroi 6 років тому +1

      Try hard deliberately bad movies don't belong here

    • @shaterlemming2549
      @shaterlemming2549 6 років тому +17

      I would agree with the 2nd Samurai Cop movie, but the first one felt pretty genuine and not meant to be bad at least to me.

    • @wasteoftime5848
      @wasteoftime5848 6 років тому +16

      MichaelLeroi Oh no, that guy was definitely part of the delusional/thought he was making a real movie crowd.

    • @KingColt1985
      @KingColt1985 6 років тому +5

      No Miami Connection either

  • @samuelalexandre9934
    @samuelalexandre9934 6 років тому +5

    Nice to see Brasília mentioned in your video! Keep up the awesome work! Cheers from Brazil

  • @nateW24
    @nateW24 6 років тому +1

    First of all the Birdemic clapping scene and all the scenes on the beach were amazing. Secondly, I've always been interested in where Troma fits into all of this. They obviously know what they're doing, but somehow come off as authentically insane.

  • @evertonlima84
    @evertonlima84 6 років тому +23

    On wicker man, my favorite scene is when Nicolas Cage robs/commandeer a bicycle at gun point, is almost parody

    • @richardadesmond
      @richardadesmond 6 років тому +11

      It has to be the one where he dresses up in a bear costume and punches a woman in the face! Best scene of all time! lmao

  • @Droidworkr
    @Droidworkr 6 років тому +2

    On a specific note, the scripts and behavior of these "bad" movies are sometimes disturbingly accurate, if not unbelievable, in the portrayal human interaction that we just don't see in more well-done movies.

  • @MelchiahTheObscene
    @MelchiahTheObscene 6 років тому +7

    Mazes & Monsters is one of my guilty pleasures. Not "that's a bit bad" kind of guilty, more "we, the jury, find the defendant..."

  • @weareribbons
    @weareribbons 6 років тому +2

    Seems like these movies just leave the curtain wide open, eliminating the need to even explain or reveal the process like bigger budget, locked-in productions. Great video as always!

  • @samj.s3132
    @samj.s3132 6 років тому +31

    10k likes and georg should remake dunkachino

  • @Mer0lk
    @Mer0lk 6 років тому +1

    Georg, I absolutely love that you expose people to "The Roller Blade Seven" movie. One of my absolute strangest "cinematic" experiences - and I wasn't even high on something!

  • @leonardomapache
    @leonardomapache 6 років тому +20

    They're eating her!... And then they're going to eat ME!... Oh my gooooood.

    • @jonskinner5664
      @jonskinner5664 6 років тому

      Oscar worthy stuff.

    • @lkrnpk
      @lkrnpk 6 років тому +3

      If it was a lesbian porno, the line could be justified and maybe (most likely) even arousing

  • @StephanieManley
    @StephanieManley 6 років тому +10

    You obviously have not seen 'The Apple'. I don't know if it was God coming down in a golden Cadillac, or the Villian engaged in a Reggie show tune. Manos had no redeeming qualities what so ever. It was barely watchable with RiffTracks.

  • @GMMReviews
    @GMMReviews 6 років тому +17

    Wicker man is great.. You're clearly forgetting the scene where Nick cage is screaming *"HOW'D IT GET BURNED!"* Or the amazing scene where he punches a woman in the face whilst dressed as a bear.. Or the weird transitions with the truck coming in from nowhere.. The whole movie isn't 'so bad it's good' but there's at least 5 amazing scenes in that film..

  • @JakeyFlake
    @JakeyFlake 6 років тому +1

    The sincerity is the key to why some of these bad movies work, when people try to make "So bad its good" on purpose it just doesnt work.

  • @tomlion0116
    @tomlion0116 6 років тому +10

    My personal favourite So Bad It's Good Movie is Samurai Cop!

  • @bijibadness
    @bijibadness 6 років тому +2

    I'd like to throw "My Soul to Take" into the ring as a "so bad it's good" movie. And remember that this was written and directed by Wes Craven. It's _truly_ baffling, all the way through.

  • @allisonbabb7368
    @allisonbabb7368 6 років тому +5

    I personally thought Manos was hilarious throughout, but I totally get your point.

  • @nero3k
    @nero3k 6 років тому +2

    I sat through a 2-minute ad for a $200 Inception spinning top and no lava lamp. This world is a dark, cold place.

  • @danbrown6224
    @danbrown6224 6 років тому +20

    I only know all of the movies you're talking about from RedLetterMedia's Best of the Worst series

    • @tylerskiss
      @tylerskiss 6 років тому +8

      As soon as RLM features one of these films on BotW, you can find a dozen or so people suddenly jump all over these films. I swear, after they did Double Down, every one from Nostalgia Critic to YourMovieSucksDOTorg were featuring Neil Breen films, I feel like they've probably made Breen's sales shoot up like 900%!

    • @danbrown6224
      @danbrown6224 6 років тому +6

      I think it's in the Force Awakens plinkett review where Mike takes a swipe at all the other bottom feeder movie channels for ripping him off (and being more successful)

  • @delphinidin
    @delphinidin 4 роки тому +1

    The difference between "so bad it's enjoyable" and "it's just bad" is beautifully exemplified by the difference between the film Dungeons & Dragons (2000) and the film Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God (2005). The first one we laughed at the whole way through. The second one we only got through like 30 minutes of it before it was so excruciating we had to turn it off.

  • @sarcasmagasm
    @sarcasmagasm 6 років тому +21

    I never really liked the phrase "so bad it's good" to describe these sorts of movies. It rarely ever describes what or how exactly the film is good while also being bad, it treats badness like it were a scale shaped like a horseshoe or a circle where going all the way to one end brings you very close to the other end, which is really oversimplifying it.

    • @jamstonjulian6947
      @jamstonjulian6947 6 років тому

      sarcasmagasm Yeah, plus as he said it's more a case of being funny than being good. And even the best bad movies can't be funny all the time, which means the rest of the time you're just watching something bad. Though that can be fascinating even when it's not enjoyable.

    • @sarcasmagasm
      @sarcasmagasm 6 років тому +2

      Paul Julian I might say that something can be enjoyable because it is fascinating. Some bad movies are just bad cause they lack even that much

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 років тому +5

      I prefer "so bad it's good" to "guilty pleasure". I have no shame in liking the movies I like, and can mount a justification for each one if necessary.

    • @nohi8945
      @nohi8945 6 років тому

      sarcasmagasm
      this is www.imdb.com/search/keyword?keywords=unintentionally-funny&sort=moviemeter,asc&mode=detail&page=1&ref_=kw_ref_key and not So Bad It's Good

  • @Kevin_Street
    @Kevin_Street 6 років тому

    This is a really good video! You've taken a subject that most people just make fun of and manage to say something that's both interesting and insightful about it. I bow to your wisdom when it comes to "so bad it's good" movies. The really good ones are quite rare, and they tend to be made by crazy people. The more normal kind of bad movies sometimes have a few hilarious scenes, but they're sprinkled like chocolate chips in a very bland muffin. There's not enough of them to make the experience entertaining.
    And thank you for the list of movies in the description! I've never heard of Yor, Double Down, or Birdemic, but I'll keep an eye out for them now. As for "Cool Cat Saves The Kids"... maybe I'll watch it at some point, after they legalize marijuana.

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 років тому

      For "Cool Cat" you could just watch the YMS video.

  • @wrestlingbuff87
    @wrestlingbuff87 6 років тому +12

    You should've talked about Miami Connection.

  • @irishjoe2941
    @irishjoe2941 4 роки тому +4

    They made a Sequel to Manos: The hands of fate.. I haven’t seen it yet but I will work the courage and a bottle of Rum to do so one day!

    • @rexremedy1733
      @rexremedy1733 4 роки тому

      It’s not hands of fate, it’s „hands off fate“ get your hands off my fate! :-)

  • @adamlouie1503
    @adamlouie1503 6 років тому +68

    Please be on RedLetterMedia

    • @gusbus1040
      @gusbus1040 6 років тому +2

      y e s

    • @BingbongDeNiro
      @BingbongDeNiro 6 років тому +2

      wheel of the worst

    • @OrdinaryTrevor
      @OrdinaryTrevor 5 років тому

      i Draw TRAAAASH

    • @Bonkatsu12
      @Bonkatsu12 4 роки тому

      I don’t think Redlettermedia has EVER had another youtuber guest star. Only celebrities.
      I mean, never say never, but I doubt they ever will.

  • @chapterblaq
    @chapterblaq 6 років тому

    A title screen for the film vids just like the Bizzare Summary. You're evolving

  • @flashhog01
    @flashhog01 4 роки тому +3

    "You can't deliberately make a bad movie." 100% true!

  • @cloister5613
    @cloister5613 6 років тому

    I think a good demonstration of a lot of things you say is comparing Samurai Cop with the sequel made years later. (Also featuring the Room’s Tommy Wiseau). One is made with tremendous flaws but tries to be a genuine movie. The second tries to be a parody but loses all the charm and humour.
    I think Manos is fascinating for the technical limitations they had, the odd decisions made throughout (including Torgo and the couple making out) and the strangeness of it all. I watched a documentary first and found the film far more watchable after that.
    A similar thing happened with Zardoz, I’ve watched your video on it several times and finally gave the movie a go.
    Looking forward to the Predator series analysis.

  • @RM-di3ds
    @RM-di3ds 6 років тому +3

    The most enjoyable 'so bad its good' film I've ever seen is Fantasy Mission Force (kind of) starring a young Jakie Chan. I watched it once, chalked it off as the stupidest film I'd ever seen.. And then must have rewatched a dozen times. Highly recommend it for a laugh.

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 років тому

      See also: Swordsman With An Umbrella.

  • @JRocky-go1ew
    @JRocky-go1ew 6 років тому

    From my point of view movies fall mainly in four categories, and there are reasons to watch all of them:
    -The ones that follow conventions and succeed (they show why the conventions exist in the first place)
    -The ones that break the mold and succeed (these ones are really interesting)
    -The ones that follow the conventions and fail (unoriginal, and generally are examples of what not to do)
    -The ones that break the mold and fail (it's interesting to figure out why they failed)
    Of course, the division is not absolute and some movies can be in different categories in different aspects. But what i like of "so bad are good" movies, is that sometimes (a lot of times) you can't figure where to put them. I ask myself usually "could i have done this on purpose?", because deep down i would love to be able to replicate it.
    Mistakes that are not mistakes, like dissonant notes that should be unpleasant but are somehow entertaining to hear.
    I would like to differ on the statement that this kind of movies can't be replicated on purpose, but for now is just a wishful thinking. I would like to try someday tough, see if i can trick everyone into seeing a false lack of self awareness. Or find somebody that can do that.

  • @bigmouth1011
    @bigmouth1011 6 років тому +8

    I see Neil Breen, I give a thumbs up

  • @AlanGChenery
    @AlanGChenery 6 років тому

    I just spent a couple of days binge watching IHE's "search for the worst" videos, and then this video from one of my favourite channels pops up, featuring 2/3 of the films. Tis fate trying to persuade me to watch the Room.

  • @miaouew
    @miaouew 5 років тому +3

    "You can do it, you can destroy these things you know. It is possible." - George Lucas

  • @That-Google-Guy
    @That-Google-Guy 4 роки тому

    Watching this INCREDIBLE vid has become a semi-annual pilgrimage for me. I watch it to remind me of all of the great lines, not just by the films but by Georg!
    “Good god it’s like it slows down time”
    “Here Neil take these pills Neil they’ll help you sleep Neil”

  • @That-Google-Guy
    @That-Google-Guy 6 років тому +4

    What’s the second to last clip
    “Great Ferrari, who’s your friend?”
    ::Removes moustache and goatee::
    “Holy shit it’s him!”

    • @DH-gq7bm
      @DH-gq7bm 3 роки тому

      Well that was Neil Breen in the driver's seat so I'm guessing double down. If not that then one of his other wierd movies.

  • @Koenshakuable
    @Koenshakuable 6 років тому

    The Beyond, is a 1981 Italian horror film directed by Lucio Fulci is by far one of the most entertaining monstrosities i ever had the pleasure of watching. several friends and i went to see this at a packed theater on halloween, so the crowd certainly had a great deal to do with it. ridiculous arterial spraying, loading a revolver by dropping bullets in the barrel, the blind 'gifted' girl and the seeing eye dog, the doctor going, 'what am i supposed to do? I am doctor! after which he pulls a hand cannon from his desk... the slowest zombie child ever EVER... and so on and so on... the cheesiest, most overacted 'we're so screwed' slow mo emote'... schadenfreude at it's finest.
    "Did you know your hotel was one of the seven gates of HELL!?!? DID YOU?!? DID YOU?!?!?"
    it was the most cathartic experience i've ever had in a theater... utterly awful! enjoy!

  • @fatralph
    @fatralph 6 років тому +8

    Hi George, I was wondering if you could make a video about The Warriors from the 70s. I enjoy it and it’d be neat to see your view on it

    • @marxmeesterlijk
      @marxmeesterlijk 6 років тому +1

      The warriors is a cult classic. :) doesn't everyone love it?

  • @reneclovercinecritica7269
    @reneclovercinecritica7269 6 років тому

    I've been looking for a video that actually attempts at explaining so bad it's good movies. So far, this is my favorite video on the topic. Thanks.

  • @PeteTash32
    @PeteTash32 6 років тому +3

    Neil Breen and Tony Wiseau should team up and make the ultimate masterpiece

    • @lotusthemermaid
      @lotusthemermaid 6 років тому

      "Disasterpiece"

    • @999SickBoy666
      @999SickBoy666 5 років тому

      They actually did that. Wiseau teamed up with the guy from "Samurai Cop" (another movie widely considered to be "so bad it's good") to make "Samurai Cop 2".
      Unfortunately (and as expected), the movie didn't turn out to be the masterpiece of so-bad-it's-good-ness one would expect: it's just bad, bland and boring.

  • @RocketeerRaccoon
    @RocketeerRaccoon 6 років тому +2

    Well with this subject in mind, Troll 2 also falls in the same category as The Room, that too is infamous for it's bad acting but it also comes off as being hilarious and watchable. But what's really surprising is that Troll 2 actually has a cult following and a documentary movie on the making of Troll 2 called "Best Worst Movie". Of course these films are still bad movies and most bad movies are so bad, they are unwatchable but I think overtime some of these bad films get recognised as being enjoyable by certain audiences and that's how these films have become popular in film culture.

  • @soyitiel
    @soyitiel 6 років тому +13

    *l a v a l a m p*

  • @docneale7534
    @docneale7534 4 роки тому +1

    'Delusional narcissists make the best bad movies'. That is great journalism. You've done a man's job, sir.

  • @lotzwatches
    @lotzwatches 6 років тому +16

    Who Killed Captain Alex is in this boat

  • @blatherskite3009
    @blatherskite3009 4 роки тому +2

    What makes something "so bad it's good" comes down, I think, to the gulf between what the creator thinks he's making and what he's actually made. Being awful isn't enough; it needs the added factor of the creator believing he was making something good. For me, it's summed up by a scene in Tim Burton's "Ed Wood" where they're filming some godawful scene and Wood (Depp) is there behind the camera like he's conducting a symphony. That moment really captured the essence of artistic delusion; everything about the scene they're shooting is amateurish dreck, but in Ed Wood's mind the scene is absolutely singing.

  • @skyscreamstudios
    @skyscreamstudios 6 років тому +3

    Yor, Yor, He's our man! If he can't do it no-one can!

  • @alteredbeast7145
    @alteredbeast7145 4 роки тому +1

    Clicked for Neil
    "Her childhood not his" 😆😆👍

  • @Monkofmagnesia
    @Monkofmagnesia 6 років тому +14

    Manos is only "good" if it has the MST3K or Rifftrax commentary. Of course, the commentary makes it funny. What about the 180 Sam Jones' film, Flash?

    • @mistertagomago7974
      @mistertagomago7974 6 років тому +4

      Monkof Magnesia Monster A Go Go on the other hand couldnt even be saved by MST3K

    • @Monkofmagnesia
      @Monkofmagnesia 6 років тому

      To me something is "camp" if it were intentionally made that way. I do not think it was intentional. First time I saw Flash, it was in the theatre with my two friends. It was just fun to watch because of the unintentional funniess (such as, it seemed that whenever Flash appeared on the screen, you heard Queen intone, "Flash! Ah ha!").

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 років тому +1

      I'm surprised people don't realise that Flash Gordon was aware of what it was doing. It's certainly not Star Wars, but that doesn't mean it failed. The only person who didn't realise what the movie was when they were making it was producer Dino De Laurentiis, and that wasn't his fault - he was Italian.

    • @Monkofmagnesia
      @Monkofmagnesia 6 років тому

      Maybe we do not realize it was intentional because the advertisements at the time made it look like it was going to be serious with some humor as well.

    • @user-vs4lg9vh1u
      @user-vs4lg9vh1u 5 років тому +1

      One of my fav MST3K's, for sure!

  • @starynite540
    @starynite540 6 років тому

    In the quest to answer the question "What Makes A Movie So Bad It's Good?", I suggest consideration of the "Decker" series by adult swim. A show built around hyperbolic bad everything. Acting, sets, dialogue, effects, casting, etc.

  • @comradesomo
    @comradesomo 6 років тому +10

    They do tend to find a lot of terrible movies with redeemable elements in Best of the Worst.

    • @mistahsusan2650
      @mistahsusan2650 6 років тому +3

      comradesomo [insert RLM meme here]

    • @reservoirfrogs2177
      @reservoirfrogs2177 6 років тому

      comradesomo Is George Replacing Rich Evans?

    • @comradesomo
      @comradesomo 6 років тому

      Does he have crippling depression/diabetes?

  • @littleghost4626
    @littleghost4626 6 років тому +2

    My favorite so-bad-its-good movie is "All Cheerleaders Die".
    Its even more enjoyable when you read interviews from the director, who thought they were redefining the dark comedy genre.

  • @aggressiveregresser
    @aggressiveregresser 6 років тому +4

    Batman the Movie is one that falls in my "so bad it's good" category. I love that film. XD

    • @WilliamGarland
      @WilliamGarland 6 років тому +2

      But all of it was intentional, more or less, if you are talking about the Adam West version. Most of the stuff you laugh at is clearly meant to be parody. The entire "You just can't get rid of a Bomb" scene was obviously never meant to be taken seriously, nor the shark repellent scene.

    • @aggressiveregresser
      @aggressiveregresser 6 років тому

      William Garland - True, it was definitely partially self aware, but still it's marketed as a real Batman movie, not a Batman parody. I think it was never meant to be taken seriously like you said but it's still dated with cheap TV special effects and costumes of the time that makes it all the more laughable, kind of like the 1960s Star Trek lizard man fight and the super fake rubber shark hanging from batman while he sprays it. Also, like Shatner, Adam West really overreacts which is what makes it all the more hilarious and fun. I just think the fact it's dated and from the sixties makes it more hilarious than what even the original makers had intended.

    • @WilliamGarland
      @WilliamGarland 6 років тому

      What is a 'real' Batman movie? The comics of the era (the silver age) were just as if not more ridiculous than anything in the show (serious/dark batman did not really exist until the mid to late seventies), except the comics were aimed at a child audience and meant to be taken at face value, meanwhile the TV show was more or less always winking at the camera while parodying how outrageous super-heroes books of the time actually were, and thus maintained a sizable (indeed majority) adult audience (it aired in prime-time, afterall, rather than on Saturday morning). Child viewers more often took the show at face value, afterall they always did so with the comics, and thus much of the shows actual humor (which was aimed at their parents) went over their heads.

    • @aggressiveregresser
      @aggressiveregresser 6 років тому +1

      WilliamGarland - There has been many iterations of Batman over the years. I see this movie as no different being a product of it's times just like the 90s films and Christopher Nolan series.
      But no film like Batman the Movie could be made today, just like Star Trek can't go back to being all Shatner's ridiculous acting and goofy lizardmen costumes or have an episode where Spock loses his brain. And just to clarify, I'm aware Star Trek is a different genre with a different audience in mind than 1960s Batman, but it's dated aspects like these that they both share.
      It certainly was meant to be goofy in it's time. I'm in agreement with you on that, but I still hold to it being so dated and alien in it's humor as bringing it's silliness to a whole new level.

    • @aggressiveregresser
      @aggressiveregresser 6 років тому

      WilliamGarland - And just so you know, I'm not saying any of this to disrespect the Adam West Batman. I actually love it and wouldn't change a thing about it. Maybe "bad" isn't the right word since that sounds derogatory. I'm sure at the time it was one of the better shows on television for children and adults. I think the show greatly appealed to it's targeted audience in the 60s which were families with children, but it has lived on today with a cult following due to it's weird, out there humor which you just can't find in any modern media. This is what brings people like me who did not exist during the time of it's original run to own the movie and episodes on dvd. It's just so much fun. ;P

  • @Spudcore
    @Spudcore 3 роки тому

    2:49 your "pfff" slays me every time.

  • @edwardbevington9351
    @edwardbevington9351 6 років тому +41

    ZARDOZ

    • @WAX1138
      @WAX1138 6 років тому +9

      I like it not a bad movie just kinda too weird & esoteric for most people. Also has that very 70's appearance that hasn't aged well for most films of the time.

    • @SendyTheEndless
      @SendyTheEndless 6 років тому +4

      WIZARDOZOFOZ

    • @TheMetalAllfather
      @TheMetalAllfather 6 років тому +6

      *GO FORTH, AND KILL THE BRUTALS*

    • @MosoKaiser
      @MosoKaiser 6 років тому +9

      *THE PENIS IS EVIL*

    • @StefanTravis
      @StefanTravis 6 років тому +5

      We need to make a distinction between films idiots think it's clever to mock, and films only idiots could miss the flaws in.

  • @TheSchmuck2
    @TheSchmuck2 6 років тому

    Agreed! As someone who has watched a lot of bad movies, I find what you're saying about them to be very accurate.
    But I need to know how you thought you could go through this whole video without mentioning Troll 2 even once?? Definitely falls into the "insane director" category.

  • @gritty7485
    @gritty7485 6 років тому +21

    Aaaaaaaah! Where is the lava laaaamp?

  • @eustacequinlank7418
    @eustacequinlank7418 6 років тому

    Thanks, Georg. You just helped me sort out my last minute Christmas list.
    Regards,

  • @FlorasMori
    @FlorasMori 6 років тому +32

    I️ will dislike until the lava lamp returns.

  • @LudvigIndestrucable
    @LudvigIndestrucable 6 років тому

    The one part that you touched on, but didn't fully address is the failure in genuine intent. Many Hollywood films are cynical and the scrutiny is based on whether it would make money rather than whether it's good. The reason that SBIG films tend to be low budget, is that the only intent is to create something beautiful, we never doubt their intentions they just fail. One of the functions of humour is to diffuse social tension, SBIG films are the tension that keeps on giving

  • @TheAutistWhisperer
    @TheAutistWhisperer 6 років тому +5

    The delusion of the creator, seriously, Tommy Wiseau and Claudio Fragasso think they made masterpieces and that's when a movie is so bad it's good.

  • @Bananapants000
    @Bananapants000 3 роки тому

    around this time last year I started getting into horror movies. which, either as a result of the genre or just the result of me watching more movies, has resulted in me watching a lot more Bad movies. and I completely agree with this assessment. my favorite bad movies are failures on every level, to the point where plots don't make sense, every bone of the production is exposed like I'm watching a middle school play, and everything has gone so wrong that I don't waste any thought on "well if they'd just been 10% more competent with the directing/acting/editing, this scene could have worked."
    so glad birdemic was not forgotten

  • @kilmerval
    @kilmerval 6 років тому +3

    If anyone's curious about these kind of movies red letter media does a fantastic series called best of the worst entirely about watching awful movies. Highly recommend the series and the channel in general

    • @alexcaffrey983
      @alexcaffrey983 6 років тому +2

      Austin Agney It's 'Best of the Worst'. Just to clarify in case anyone actually thought he intended to say "nest of the worst".

  • @janedoe3043
    @janedoe3043 6 років тому +1

    I think enjoyable bad films, need to have humor and keep you waiting for the next bizarre thing to laugh at. This is always helped by having a group of friends to enjoy it with. Usually, it is a solid (or at least passable in the cliche way) type of film that just screws up in a consistent way without making you bored or frustrated. I think when a person genuinely screws up, you are on the edge of your seat to see the next blunder to have a laugh at it. When a person makes terrible choices, or it feels like they tried to make a bad film, it just makes you angry and frustrated until you give up.

  • @jamieweir9843
    @jamieweir9843 6 років тому +5

    I'd say ask Nicholas Cage lol EDIT: 1 minute odds in and already my boi is used as an example 😂

    • @kingti85
      @kingti85 6 років тому

      Why would you have to edit a comment less than 2 minutes into the video?
      Oh. One of those people.
      Gross.

    • @kingti85
      @kingti85 6 років тому

      Umm wut

  • @whatifgaming1661
    @whatifgaming1661 5 років тому

    Thanks for making these. I havent had the oppurtunity to take film class yet and these videos are very intelligently written.

  • @nullavitasinemusica1
    @nullavitasinemusica1 6 років тому +4

    Garzey's Wing

    • @OrbGoblin
      @OrbGoblin 6 років тому +1

      You are so easy going!

  • @toolthoughts
    @toolthoughts 5 років тому +1

    Gotta love Manos. The line in MST3K about it looking like a snuff film is spot on. Bridget Jones Nelson was too creeped out to watch it thru!

  • @meatbyproducts
    @meatbyproducts 6 років тому +14

    The Room isn't so bad it's good, it is just flat bad on every level.

    • @WAX1138
      @WAX1138 6 років тому +6

      I agree. I don't know why it gets praised so much, I like it but there are many more movies that are better "so bad it's good movies". Take Tommy out of it and it's just a crappy softcore porno.

    • @notserious6458
      @notserious6458 6 років тому +2

      And you missed the point

    • @ThumpertTheFascistCottontail
      @ThumpertTheFascistCottontail 6 років тому +4

      Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of hearing about The Room?

    • @meatbyproducts
      @meatbyproducts 6 років тому +1

      GameraTheBrave I saw it years ago and hated it so much. Then in the last like four years people try to tell me it is so bad it is good. I tell them to take thier hipster try hard movie and walk off a pier into sharp infested waters. The movie is not even remotely redeemable. It makes me cringe in angry instead of laugh.

    • @meatbyproducts
      @meatbyproducts 6 років тому +1

      Not Serious missed the point? That hipsters keep saying it is so bad it is good and group think has agreed. It is a shit movie and should never be veiwed.

  • @TheRausing1
    @TheRausing1 5 років тому +2

    Fun fact: ‘manos’ is used by nasa to counter the relative time acceleration caused by travelling at high speeds in a space craft.