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A good twist makes you think about the rest of the movie leading up to that point, giving everything new meaning and making you say, "Oh shit, it all makes sense now! I should have seen this coming!"
A bad twist comes completely out of nowhere and makes you say, "Wait, what? When was that set up? Doesn't that contradict this other thing? Why did that character do that thing he did when no one was looking, unless it was just to fool the audience?"
Why are we all replying now
Or it makes you recontextualize the movie as a whole.
Then that would be a reveal 😉
Isn't kind of counterproductive to be known as "The Master of Twists" seeing how everyone will instantly be looking for it.
If you are smart,your next twist will be that there are no twists.
If your truly the master of twists you should still be able to surprise them.
A classic is to drop an obvious twist the audience expects so they let their guard down and feel smug then immediately follow it up with the real twist.
M. Nights curse
Hitchcock got away with it.
Man I laughed at the end. He said "Don't worry, I'll say the name of the movie before the spoiler" then at the end just starts rapid fire spoiling all kinds of movies lol
What a twist!
The same you spoiled the ending of this video 😱
Kevin Spacey's career... now there's a helluva twist ending.
D W seriously why do I feel like I've heard about him and children before last like I remember this being a thing like a decade ago
Vhat a tveest
He wasn't acting as an evil person... he was evil all along!
La Oveja Turns out Kevin Spacey was a serial killer for real.
Munjee Syed someone wrote a book about who's gay, bi and whatever a few years ago. Kevin Spacey and John Travolta tied for the creepiest exploits.
I've found that the most effective twists are ones that affect the characters. That's why The Village failed so bad. The twist was shown to the audience, not the characters. The only character that goes out of the village is blind, so she has no idea what the outside world actually is like, so it doesn't change anything. It feels like the director is just telling the audience. What made The 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs twists so effective was that they were moments of realization for the characters as well as the audience, and they were highly emotional realizations for the character, so they became highly emotional for the audience.
I never even saw Signs as having anything like a real twist, just a conclusion by the main character that "Oh, all this random stuff that's happened was orchestrated by a really dumb God to facilitate my brother batting glasses of water at aliens, instead of, for example, making it rain." The Village twists, while not great, are at least recognizable as such.
Mr. Robot is probably the king of this. It takes everything a step further: You should have already realized the twist, you are just waiting to see how the characters react to it.
The twist in The Village is completely absurd within the world of its story. The people created this supposedly ideal society so their children would not have to live with the terrors of the modern world. But they created this ideal world by making a situation where the kids are deliberately kept in a state of constant fear. In trying in make a community where there is nothing to be afraid of, they actually made a place where fear is ever present. If they wanted to keep the young people from leaving the area, wouldn't it have been easier and less cruel to just build a big fence around their contact pound?
That's what made the movie great.
Well, it's USA in a nutshell.
This is literally the story of hitler, making people afraid of the outside world and outsiders by painting them as untrustworthy and only out to get you and your stuff, in his mind it was justified, for people outside of the system it’s insane
@@Skeletontiger how would you know?
That is the message the movie is trying to get across. How very often the big people in charge try to "make their own world a better place" by using fear to control and manipulate, not realizing they are creating a much bigger problem. Instead of trying to make their point heard by being honest or admit their own mistakes, they will rather invest on an enemy that might not even exist in order to make you obey their rules ("You should stay here and be happy with us otherwise the monsters will kill you!") .
How about movie script, that's made out of the most overused twists.
The protagonists MILF girlfriend is actually his mother! Except it was only a dream. He's dreaming it because, he's insane! He was made insane by his psychologist best friend, who is actually evil! ...and his real father! But he's reminiscing this, because he's actually dead! In a virtual reality game! That's a government conspiracy! To hide that he's actually a cyborg, with implanted memories! He was made by a scientist, who looks exactly like him! Except he's actually the scientist, and the guy who he thought to be the scientist the actual cyborg!...
Erilaz lol genius!
dunh dunh dunnnnnnnnnh!
@Goat Man And it turns out the movie was the friends we made along the way!
except, all of this was just a dream
This just sounds like Sword Art Online
The thing about The Village twist is that it just doesn't make sense.
Premise: A bunch of people who've had loved ones murdered decide to go and form a little commune together where they're safe from the evils of the outside world. Fine. Great. Whatever. But there is absolutely no plausible reason for them to start pretending it's the late 19th century. There's no reason for them to dress in period costumes and speak in bastardized "ye olde English" and etch fraudulent dates onto tombstones. They could've had their commune without the bullshit. What the hell did their babies and yet-to-be-born children know about history, anyway that they should have to lie about what year it is? You could tell a small child it's the year 1890, or you could tell them it's the year 37821... and their response will be exactly the same. A shrug and an "Okay".
The only real purpose the lies served was to fool the audience. And the story and characters therein aren't supposed to be aware that there _is_ an audience to fool.
I assume the "ye olde worlde" thing was in imitation of the Amish. Things were better in the old days, therefore let's pretend it's the old days.
Nope. Not so much Amish. More along the lines of: ua-cam.com/video/ftvj5dU-kk0/v-deo.html
The most ludicrous bit was that they managed to convince all airliners to divert their flight paths away from the village. First of all, yeah right. But second, again, this is for the audience, not the villagers. People who knew nothing about planes could have been told that the planes were giant monster birds or something.
@@JohnMoseley I saw it as that they were doing it for themselves, to kinda fool themselves to get into it.
They could have easily made the twist that it was a government social experiment, and then the plot holes would have been lessened.
The most tedious twist which seems to be ubiquitous in modern cinema is "the character who tells you not to trust anyone will turn out to be the villain". And will then say "I told you not to trust anyone". *Sigh*
I agree with all but "The Game'. I don't know that I expected a big twist to the story - from the title, I knew it was all a game. But how it was played as a character study of Nicholas Van Orton and his altered perceptions of both himself and the wider world was very interesting and a fun ride.
I agree.
I expected it to end with him commiting a suicide like his father did, but was actually pleasently surprised to see it end in a way that it did. I saw it like a fantasytale in similiar fashion to the christmas carol, only slightly darker version, where a selfish and bitter man goes through a life changing experience and starts to appreciate life and his loved ones more.
Had it ended with his commiting suicide for real, all the film would've offered would've been:"Lol, don't take games too far guys!", instead of character changing for better.
Yeah, it does a decent enough of job of making you wonder if it is just all a ploy to steal his money. That said, loss of immersion can be an issue with that twist... the idea that it is a game, that they manage to so thoroughly and accurately predict every reaction/move (including the protagonist not being royally ticked off at being driven to suicide), get everyone necessary in on it and have them behave/act in a way that the target doesn't see through it, and that they can do it all for the listed fee...
yep, it's a great movie and it was an early sign that Fincher could take any story and turn it in to a stylish cinematic experience.
I thought it was a great movie as well
I think if you value how much the character changed, then the movie has meaning and it's worthy
Saw is such a perfect example of twist growing stale.The first two worked,made sense,and were fresh.But the rest were simply trying to one up what came previously and recapture the old magic,eventually forming the whole story around the twist,and none of them worked.
Mine would be the increasing lameness and total improbability of the deaths as the movies went on in Final Destination.
I'm.going to venture that ****SPOILERS****
the FACT that the bus accident is shot close AND it's physically impossible with the construction in the way, is what was most jarring.
That the construction makes the death impossible to get up to the speed shown is a cheat, though.
By the time we get to Layton, it's too dumb to be real anymore, though. Not to mention basic mechanical physics of how an escalator works.
There's a woman in China who this actually happened to. The video is up here. Some clips have audio (tho any convo is in Chinese). The most scary part is she never raises her voice. In fact, NOBODY raises their voice! At all.
For something that isn't bloody at all (that you can see), it's the most horrifoc thing I've ever seen. She's there, plates at the top open and in a few seconds, she's gone.
This is supposed to be impossible in the States, but God knows the US has a long history of overriding safety switches and such. There's about 18 cutoffs the Chinese tried to say they used, minus the clearly not used or nonexistent open plate cutoff.
OR, DUH, just design it so they overlap and CAN'T open that way. Duh.
Another bizarre story, someome put their hand in to move laundry in a crammed machine, and it turned itself on!
The latest one was just dumb. Frickin' lasers? I keep expecting to see Tobin Bell put his pinky to his mouth
Repo Man was one of my fave twists, but in hindsight, every dystopian future has the same twist, Brazil for instance.
_"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes."_
One of my favourite films of all time. Watching it for the first time, you never know where it's going to take you, but that ending was the last thing you'd expect.
seriously, larry, you're everywhere!
Hello You!
Stop making lists
you show a good choice in viewing. I've seen you comment on several videos lately. just watched one of your vids good as always.
I hate when the twists are just lies the movie tells. A Cure for Wellness being my favorite example. Lying to the audience is not a twist.
I never saw A Cure for Wellness being a twist ending, it was just a mystery. We weren't being lied to, we just weren't being told the full story. Though i thought that movie should have ended at the eel insemination scene. The 3rd act was a bit of a mess.
nathan papp
The pacing and energy was also a mess. I like mystery, but I was falling asleep the whole time. Should be used in film school as an example of how not to do artsy-fartsy.
I enjoyed the movie, but I'll agree with some of what you said. The pacing wasnt great and it was kind of a series of set pieces. To me, it felt like a combination of The Shining and Sunshine, not as good as The Shining but on par with Sunshine. I wouldnt go so far as to call it and example of how not to do x. Ive seen plenty of worse horror/mystery movies.
nathan papp
Perhaps I'm a bit harsh on it, it sure isn't the worst example. After all I did manage to get through the movie. The plot was good, very good I'd say. Although hard to buy sometimes, like no one hearing when the toilet broke. Or even the toilet breaking. I thought that's when we were entering dreamland, but apparently not.
I think your objection is valid. I probably criticize this movie harder because I was disappointed in it not being better and making my list of top movies.
I liked A Cure for Welness and I generally don't like these sort of movies, but this one has a good build up, had good cinamatography and had a Lovecraft vibe that most movies that try fail miserably. It wasn't the greatest film ever but entertaining which is good enough for me especially when you don't expect it to be.
My favorite cinematic twist is in Arrival, which is also among my favorite films. Like the famous twist of The Sixth Sense, it's established throughout the film without being obvious, and its reveal is emotionally devastating while also resolving the conflict of the film. If a twist doesn't resolve anything it's just cold water thrown in the faces of the audience, as cheap as an unearned jumpscare.
Is that where it turns out the aliens write in a circle, so they can see the future? Was that it? Surely it can't have been that stupid...
@@andrewdevine3920 The aliens' writing system is a result of their inherent ability to see parts of the past, present, and future simultaneously. The movie mentions the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis, which doesn't have much real evidence behind it but in the context of this alien language is 100% what happens. That hypothesis (oversimplification incoming) is that the languages we speak change our way of thinking; while unlikely with human languages learning the non-linear (unbound by time) alien language actually DID rewire Dr. Banks's brain so she could think like the aliens.
Plot twist:
"Georg Rockall-Schmidt" is the name of the lava lamp
The Game is an awesome movie. It keeps you guessing whether there's a twist at all, only to let you down easy at the end while also justifying the main character's development arc. It almost doesn't matter whether it's "just a game" or not, because Michael Douglas' journey is the interesting part.
One more thing I don't think you brought up. Many times a twist can be good, but is ruined by hype. If you go into a movie where the advertisements say "the greatest plot twist since The Sixth Sense!" and junk, you go in kind of wanting to see it fail. And even if the twist turns out good, it may not have the same impact it did with you not knowing it was coming. This also causes death scenes to fall monumentally flat.
Too true
I never go into a movie hoping it will fail (that's basically like hoping to waste your money), but knowing a film has a twist vastly increases the likelihood that you'll guess it in advance, which is just annoying.
Nothing is more suspenseful than Georg's lava lamp.
Ashley Rodriguez it's single handedly responsible for bringing back a cultural icon
No Mr Torrance, you've always been the lava lamp.
Han Solo: _Han, I am your father_
Han Solo: *_I know._*
He's his own father? Did not see that coming
Lucky Number Slevin has a great twist. It's totally unexpected and also pretty complex, which is shown by the time it takes the movie to explain how everything works together in the new light, but it still makes perfect sense. At the time of the twist the movie also has a pretty significant shift in time, from a thriller that's played out pretty light-hearted to a pretty dark one. And somehow everything still feels like a very complete experience. It's not a story with a twist, the story IS the twist. And it's a damn good one.
IMO the ending of "Chinatown" had one of cinema's greatest twists.
The "just a dream" one still has to be the worst offender because it allows the writer to get away with anything.
I did like The Unusual Suspect (only seen it a couple months ago). The twist is fairly obvious in retrospect and is not new but the story is so immersive that you're never really sure where the twist is or if there really is one until the end.
Of all things when I think of kind of clever twists in movies it's a movie a lot of people probably don't know or at least don't remember.
Sleepaway Camp. It's not a great slasher but the twist at the end actually kind of was a shock
Like, you start out the movie with a family with two kids, and one of them is killed, then later have this quiet, withdrawn girl throughout the entire movie. Her weird aunt foreshadows it, some of the lines foreshadow it... and it explains so much of her personality and some of the comments the other girls make... and it legit is a shock that makes you rethink a bunch of stuff. Like, if the dialogue and acting etc weren't terrible it'd legit be a really good slasher.
And you expect Angela being the killer to be the (obvious) twist, and in a sense it is - but that also means you don't expect the OTHER twist at all.
You suspect Angela is the killer to the point that it seems too obvious, so you doubt yourself.
I'll admit the last act of Annihilation resulted in the film having much more of an indie art-house feel than I had been expecting, by around the mid-way point. Not necessarily a bad thing...it was hell of a ride, that film.
It was extremely mediocre. Nothing new.
I wanted to like it more but it was a let down apart from some interesting visuals. The source book was much more intriguing and psychological with the hypnotic suggestion, tower, fungal lettering and the creature slowly descending the stairs. But most of all the reader is left to make their own conclusions as to the nature of Area-X and the incidents that occur.
Replete, all those story points you are listing would be incredibly difficult to translate into film. Which kind of makes you question why they would try to make a movie out of that book in the first place lol
Not really that difficult as you'd just need to film the scenes in the book where the psychologist uses the word triggers to control the team members. And just film the tower scenes with the Biologist going down the stairs, show the lettering, the inhalation of the spores and her catching up to the crawler. And don't have anyone state what definitively what Area X is, just have theories that conflict from person to person as people will try and explain it in their own way based on their beliefs, experience and background.
Well this is going to come down to opinion at this point, but I disagree. I think most of those elements were captured visually in some other way. For example I don't think they would need to show spores, as the mutation is subtly (yet visually) effecting everyone in Area X.
The tower would be really cool to see, but would add a lot of work for the production staff as well as increasing the run time. Which is also why I think it's very fair of them to cut the hypnosis bit as well since I'm not sure what you would cut out for that segment. And the movie is already fairly slow in its pacing, so I think they did some Lord of the Rings style editing and came out with a decent final product.
This video is so dense, every frame has so much going on
Fuck you, Rick Berman...
Trevor ML what is it with Ricks?
Georg should make a video analysing his own videos.
It's like poetry. It rhymes.
LAVA LAMP IS A THING I KNOW! I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT! :D
I actually liked the ending to The Game. I know many people may think it's lame, but I felt the lack of a twist was a very effective twist, because we are led by typical movie narratives to expect one.
The Game was truly excellent. The fact it ended on a happy note was beautiful.
Jar Jar is the key to all of this
That's gonna be great
France will always be free
Jar Jar is dressed up like his deseased mother?
Only if we can get him working.
He's funnier than any character we've had before
The lava lamp gets better and better every video.
PLOT TWIST: It's actually a discoball.
While I agree with some of the concepts here I think you're missing a few things.
Without splitting hairs if they are telegraphing a twist it sin't a twist, it's just a mystery. Get Out is a very good recent example of just this, The audience knows something is wrong, we just don't know exactly what it is until almost the end of the 2nd act.
The art of the twist is very simple really. All you need to do is actually very simple. Tell a perfectly normal engaging story they lay a second story under it that is the "real" story being told. When I've explained this before the best example I can give is "Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe?". There is story we think we are watching, and a deeper story we are actually watching and it works on both levels.
This is an excellent point and where I had trouble with this. A "twist" by definition can't be "broadcast" or it isn't a twist? That whole part of his argument fell flat to me and seems to be more his opinion that something most of us expect when it comes to twists. You are absolutely right, that is a *mystery*.
I'm blown away you didn't mention 1996's Twister
It was a different cow all along!!!
Enjoyable but mediocre movie. Apart from the cow, my favorite part was how the government meteorologists were presented as Evil.
Lol No way, the Dread Pirate Robert's and his goons had evil "corporate sponsors"... 90's movie to the core
The twist is Helen Hunt's career was really never there all along. It was a figment of imagination.
I see lava lamp, I get hard as a rock(all-Schmidt)!
Word Unheard you're my hero
I'm so glad that you mentioned Duel which has to be one of my all time favorite movies, now that movie freaked me out for years, and still does sometimes when I pass a truck on the highway.
For me.."The Game" was one of the few plot twist movies that actually surprised me...I ruled out the possiblity that it is "just a game" knowing that plot twists usually try to create some sense of drama, and not creating happy endings. And it is pretty unique in its approach to make a situation less threatening in the end than we thought it was instead fueling our paranoia who could be a killer, Alien, Evil all along, or part of an evil sheme for world domination. I appriciate the positivity and uniquness of that concept...why not leave a movie with a good feeling sometimes?
I’m disappointed you don’t like The Game. I don’t think the twist felt cheap at all and it’s one of my favourite movies.
What is this blue monstrosity on the left? #NotMyLavaLamp
Georg tried to fool us! #WheresTheRealLavaLamp
Maybe that's the twist? the lava lamp was blue all along and we had no idea
We are all daltonists!
racist. #bluelampsmatter
Robin Thrush I personally am a red lamp and feel excluded by your rights for blue lamps #alllampsmatter
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Christian Triana
Can't quit the Schmidt
Had the same experience lol. I've seen a couple before, but after being recommended yet again (& binge watching many videos) finally subscribed.
Subscribing isn't enough, as the youtube algorithm will still decide which videos are worth notifying you of. I have all my favorites bookmarked to get around this dumb "feature".
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Fight Club has such a beautiful twist
Liked for Stalker btw!
Way to telegraphed to be a good twist. You see the narrator hallucinationing Tyler durst several times before he shows up. The way everyone else reacts to him is suspicious as hell, and when he beats the hell out of himself in the bosses office he mentions how it reminds him of fighting with Tyler.
@@kyriss12 and even despite all those things, probably 95% of people did not see it coming. That's a good twist
@@HyunaTheHyena
Eh I can see that. The twist in shutter Island should have been completely obvious and in any other movie I would have figured the investigator loosing his shit while investigating a conspiracy in a nut house was himself a delusional patient. However the director did such a great job keeping you distracted that the very obvious twist never had a chance to cross your mind.
One of my favorite recent twists was in A Simple Plan. Nothing goes right...it finally looks like maybe things will work out (albeit in the most grim way possible).....nope. It was gold.
The Psycho twist was used again in Resident Evil Code Veronica. However, this time it was a brother pretending to be his sister.
Princescyther goddamnit i was planning to play that game someday lol. I guess im 18 years late to the party though.
Don't worry, that reveal won't spoil you the experience of discovering that great video game, made with love and game design.
Yeah, the twist reveal in Code Veronica isn't ground-breaking or make you drop the controller and go, "Oh shit! NO WAY!"
It's one of those twists that you don't necessarily see coming, but when it's revealed, you're thinking, "Yeah, that makes sense."
The character is such a deranged, delusional nut job that's literally OBSESSED with his sister. So, it's not a shocker at all when you find out he's been dressing up as and impersonating his sister.
Great game. Definitely play it, Grant.
And it still worked
@@evalisa5044 that game fucking sucks. Story and characters aren't engaging/annoying (fuck Steve), game design is absolute trash thanks to the horrid amount of backtracking
twist- lamp is controlling meat puppet the entire time.
Surely Annihilation DOES have a twist (the identity of Oscar Isaac's character)?
Annihilation is a philosophical horror film, so a lot of the questions that are left unanswered feel like they were specifically left that way. Whose identity is whose? _What_ is identity, even? The movie presents a lot of big questions, and an expository-dump twist would've lessened that impact. In this movie's case, I prefer too few answers compared to having them handled poorly. And the climax of the movie's just amazing to watch; I don't see how any more dialogue would improve it.
It's a matter of taste I guess, but I disagree about Annihilation- I thought it should have ended even more early than it did- right after the lighthouse scenes where the alien world seemingly collapses. It would leave the story in a state where there is some sort of conclusion, but with all the mystery intact.
I love it when films dare to do that- present mysteries and questions and don't even try to provide the final answers.
That's why I love Stalker. I formed my very personal, subjective interpretation out of it slowly, intuitively, without even trying to think about it. I just loved the feel and atmosphere and around the 4th time I started to understand, like it was a new language that you hear and eventually you start understanding it by simply "living" in it.
The original Alien was something like that too, although in a much more simpler and orthodox way, narration-wise. The story arc itself is clear and simple, but all the elements are left quite mysterious- there are more questions than answers and the movie simply leaves the attempts to clear them- because the world, the environment in the movie doesn't leave any room or time for the characters either, to clear the mystery. They only have time trying to survive.
What was the derelict ship doing? Where did the eggs come from? The space jockey? The characters never have really time to think about these things, as the creature is born.
I miss movies being more like that and I loved Annihilation being a bit of an mystery, although it has it's problems as a movie.
I understand the ending being a metaphor of that we change, we and our relationships can become mutated, corrupt and we won't be the same afterwards. But I personally could have been without even such meaning and metaphors- and would have loved it if the movie would have ended right after the lighthouse.
In the book which Stalker is based on, “Roadside Picnic” there’s a theory that Zone is the place with alien garbage. Like that garbage that people might leave after a picnic. It’s still open for interpretations and it’s still deeply philosophical but I found the explanation unusual and interesting.
The twist in "Unbreakable" was almost as good as "The 6th Sense" I think he did telegraph the twist in "The Village" the language of the Older villagers gave it way.
I didn't like Unspeakable's twist. Turning Glass into just another clever psychopath was the writer's easiest way out thus, by definition, unsatisfying.
My new favorite UA-cam channel. Thanks for the great commentary!
M Night Shambles-on
Layer Cake had a nice unexpected twist at the end. It was there all along, some clever mis-direction throughout the movie.
It's like Nostalgia Critic once said: "I wouldn't've seen it coming if they all turned into Snowmen of George Takei but that wouldn't make it good".
A plot twist does need to be a surprise, but it also needs to make sense and add to your story. Whether you reveal any of the treads to the audience beforehand is up to you, it can work either way, but the audience needs to feel more than just empty shock.
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The blue lamp does a good job contrasting your shirt.
The twist in the new blade runner was expertly done
well done I would only go as far to say, personally. I am one who thinks the film is highly over rated, though that 'twist' was one of the better things in the film.
What was it
I'm no Shyamalan fan boy, but i think he's done some good twists other than 6th sense.
The reveal at the end of split had a big reaction from the audience when I saw it at
the cinema.
Ah no! I love The Game. There's no 'twist; as such. We know what's up, but we go with it. It's the same premise as Inception, in way. Douglas is essentially starring in his own movie, without knowing. Why let it slide when speaking about Inception, but call Fincher out on it? It looks great and it has a great soundtrack. Even a less than sterling David Fincher film is better than the best work of other directors. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo being another example. I f**kin love Fincher's version of that story!
An honourable mention for The Shining. Can the zoom in on Jack's face in the photograph not be seen as a twist of sorts?
Subcribed by the way. Smart and witty.
"The Usual Suspects" was so predictable it wasn't even a twist. It pretty much telegraphed how it was going to end a half hour in.
I occasionally breathe
What a twist!
"I will mention the name of the film before I spoil it for you"
Plot Twist: Lists about 10 Movies and spoils them in quick succession without any warning!
I feel that you have misjudged 'The Game'. I'll tell you why. One day my brother came round. He said to me, "You know how I can predict how a film is going to proceed within the first ten minutes? Well here is a film that totally outwitted me. I've put another day's rental on it for you. Please watch it. You won't regret it". He wasn't wrong. The twist is NOT that it was a game. The twist is that the main character's brother had helped design the game in order for his brother to cleanse his inner demons and make him happier. The movie *IS* trying to herd you into thinking that Douglas's character is subverting a plot to fleece him, but this is tied to his isolation and paranoia and comes full circle when his business rival forgives him at the end. There are beautiful and clever moments in the film, such as when the protagonist 'spots' the TV presenter at the zoo, making you think that our protagonist has found a weak spot in the organisation, when in reality, he was meant to find him there, and is led futher down the conspiracy path when he later sees him buying lunch at the organisation's canteen. In summary, it is a masterclass in twists and is in my top 5 films of all time. I suggest a re-watch.
He only mentioned it to fit in YOU JUST LOST THE GAME.
I loved that movie and when it came out, was entirely unexpected. Cheap? No way, it was masterfully done. *shrug*
The Game's twist is still pretty dumb, doesn't matter if it is predictable or not, that's not what makes for a good twist, the whole thing is too ubelievable bordering on the comical
The film's premise (and especially the ending) is so hilariously stupid. If anyone else had directed it, people would not rate it like this. If you just think through the film and logically try and justify everything that happens in a way that fits the ending... It's just completely retarded. I like the film, it's fun, but yes it is cheap. "Masterfully done" lol
I liked it. I rented it from blockbuster out of curiosity because I had never heard of it. Great movie.
That very last clip of Kevin Spacey is from one of the greatest twists of all! "The Usual Suspects" was awesome!
I was kinda hoping for a twist...
What if the lack of a twist was the twist!?
thats what I feel like The Game did... basically you are expecting 1 or more twists and instead nah its just what we said it was.
So - only a short mentions of the Usual Suspects? THAT rocked my socks off... In a good way.
Movies with a great plot twist.
The others.
The Sixth Sense
Usual Suspects.
Usual Suspects is underappreciated.
Memento (kind of has twists throughout)
The Prestige
and Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
"Signs" had a great plot twist , problem was 90% of the audience missed it
-The Aliens aren't aliens , they are demons who literally need human bodies for something.
-The crop circles were summoning circles.
-The only reason the water from the glasses burned the "Alien" was because his daughter made him bless each glass before she would take a sip ( they were glasses of holy water )
So the demons were hiding during the day and summoning more of their own kind in every night out in the fields until they had the numbers neccessary to attack.
Thats why you never saw any evidence of "alien technology", they were actually primitive .
Every theory put forward by characters in the movie was wrong , it wasn't until the meaning of his wifes dying words became clear that the Pastor realized what he was actually up against .
It wasn't until the Pastor realized :
That "Tell Merrill to swing away" really was a message from God
That his loss of Faith and depression were the reason his brother moved in
His daughters "phobia" about dirty water had led to the house being full of holy water
His sons asthma prevented him from being poisoned.
His children had been targeted because he was a Pastor and every "bad" thing in his life had happened to save the children from being taken.
Thats why he had his collar back on at the end of the movie.
The director did too good of a job hiding the plot twist.
@@glennchartrand5411 never hear of that, but for the sake of argument lets say that's what happened, the movie never actually made that point clear, all of the Priest's sub-plot feels like an allegory.
i think with anihiliation ive seen a really good review on its concept and subtext by foldingideas/foldablehuman/dan olson, but i kinda agree that it sags, i went in really wanting to soak in its themes but it didnt feel like it was conveying those so much as it looked alot like a regular sci fi film direction wise.. i think youre right that stronger directing mightve been better, altho harder and maybe wouldve made the movie even more non appealing to the general public. i dont think it needs a twist necessarily bc understanding what the ending means can be a big revelation in itself already, but maybe it couldve had an even stronger and less conventional emotional language to its visuals that wouldve drawn the focus to the trauma themes.
your vids are great man, i just found your channel and im binging, your tone and speaking presentation is super good on the ears and very clear while also being soothing and not overwhelming, amazing work!!
I hate you for that The Game reference, omfg
It must HAVE been 7 years for me since I last lost, fuck you georg
@@Thisisahandle701 Have.
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@@fds7476 Fair enough FD S, I'm sure you'd OF made the same mistake at some point in your life.
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No.
And that's the thing.
@@fds7476 Whatever bro, I'm going to go and OF breakfast
I think this is why remakes fail so often. Everyone knows what to expect, and everyone resents the new actors. The Village WOULD have been great if we didn’t already know what was going on. It’s better to be PART of the community in finding out what the weirdness is, than to be watching on, already knowing.
I love Georg’s voice. Very soothing :)
Keep up the good work I love your videos!
mr Rockall, what you dont know, is that psycho twist, and its profound efect at the time, was made fun of on the TV show Happy Days, when the Cunningham family are geting ready to leave to see "psycho", Potsie says to them "oh, your going to love that film! turns out Tony Perkins is his own mother!", the family, crestfallen, takes off their coats and asks him if there are any other stories he wants to spoil and ask him about Cinderella, to which he replies 'the shoe fits!".
If Stalker had a twist I don't think most people could even tell.
If Stalker had a plot I don't think many could tell either.
Im with you except for Goldeneye, I think thats maybe the best written of all the Bond movies.
Right? The vast majority of Bond fans list that as one of their least favorite movies. They say it's too slow and boring. That's a common complaint.
I've always thought it was one of the best Bond movies ever. It's been my personal favorite Bond film since I first saw it in 1995.
It's a cliché though and it for me it worked because I saw it as a kid, and wasn't familiar with that all too common twist yet
WHAAAT?? NOO...
I'm glad you acknowledged "Sunshine". It was an awesome movie up til the twist.
Rosebud
I knew what the twist to The Village was about 15 minutes in. From that point on, I couldn't wait for it to be over. One of my friends sitting next to me came out of the screening room afterwards with a massively confused look on his face. I turned to him and asked him what was wrong and he said, "I just thought they were Amish!" The twist had been so, SO obvious to him that he hadn't even realised it was meant to be a twist.
Did the Oscar Isaac thing not count as a twist in Annihilation? I mean I saw it coming, but it does meet the basic qualifications of a plot twist.
Hahaha that "I guess you'll never hear from him again" at the end is so spot on! Charged with sarcastic energy. Comedy is indeed tragedy plus (a little) time.
Ok I'm going to have to stop you at the jeepers creepers. It's fine to not like it, the film ain't perfect, but calling out the fact that it's a monster movie that just happens to start out without that being obvious at the very very beginning as some sort of "twist" isn't really fair. It's revealed very early on, late first act/early mid act, that what they're dealing with isn't human, and the plot then revolves around the characters trying to manage something that both can't be killed and can't be negotiated with. There's no mystery to the fact that the monster is a monster, and it can't really be called a twist. Jeepers creepers is more comparable to nightmare on the elm street and childs play franchises, mildly-humorous supernatural slashers, not quite comparable to the other films you discuss here. If you want to deal with unexpected/sudden twists and want to keep jeepers creepers in, talk about the bait and switch twist for who the creeper's real target was. Having the movie suddenly end with the monster catching the male lead and just leaving without any meaningful confrontation and wholly negating the struggle of the main characters throughout the entirety of the film as an ultimately wasted venture hold far more to unpack and examine as a twist in a monster/slasher than what you focused on.
Totally agreed.
GET OUT OF HERE, STALKER!
Literally tied for my fave film ever w/ Murnau's "Nosferatu" and the first Conan film 'cause you've gotta have low brow picks w/ high brow picks
I didn't know "Jeepers Creepers" was meant to have a twist. That is bad.
It wasn't a twist. I'm not sure why Georg mentioned it.
It's more of a reveal rather than a twist
Moonbeam he's just comparing it to duel by spielberg which had a cheap twist,,,, jeepers creepers was like the improved version of it
Did Duel have a twist? I don't think so.
SPOILERS
A guy on a lonesome highway is hassled by a truck. In the end the truck goes over a cliff. What's the twist?
Maybe the twist could be that you never find out who's driving the truck, if anyone, and why it's following the protagonist? I dunno, not much of a twist but I suppose it's unexpected because usually you find out in films like that.
The Village: Don't be so focused on the premise of 'a twist' because of the filmmaker. Notice how beautiful it is. i.e -When the 'monster' was coming, and Ivy held her hand out knowing Lucius would come to save her (playing, for real, the 'game' the boys would play that she envied) - and at the last second, as the creature reaches for her hand, Lucius grabs it out of the darkness, the film enters slo-mo, Hillary Hahns violin in tow - one of the most beautiful, 'romantic' scenes I've ever seen.Shyamalan isn't about a 'twist', the 'Night Surprise'. It's about the basis of the film artform: Everything happens for a reason. It's all about the ending. 'Signs' wasn't a sci-fi, alien movie. It could just as well been gangsters, or a pack of hyenas. Look for the beauty in it, not the twist.
I really like listening to you talking about stuff like that.
What makes Psyco espcially impressive is that even when you come to the film knowing what the twist is, as it is hard not do these days, it still very much works.
Stalker is great. Though I would disagree that it is inaccessible. Sure it’s slow, but there’s enough weird science fiction stuff happening regularly to entertain people with shorter attention spans.
I agree, the twist of Stalker is wondering how it could have ever been authorized to be made in the Soviet Union
The novella it's loosely based on is wonderful as well.
Some times i wonder if the twist in Stalker..Is that it just a conversation between the men.Talking about the place..?
The first day of ads for the village, they had a cut that revealed the twist. They pulled the ads for a week or so and came back with a nob-revealing version.
LMAO, add that to the numorious reasons why "The Village" is a shlocky, overrated, pretentious 2-hour long artpiece that pretends to be deep and philosophical
I actually enjoyed the village's twist
As did I.
Same
Same here.
I agree with you on the saw movies except the twist in Saw 1 which was bloody brilliant. The fact that it doesn’t come out of nowhere to keep you hooked, there are hints and clues to who is the actual killer. I think it’s a great film with a great twist.
I love The Village...everyone hates it.
Me too
I think a lot of people were expecting a horror film, because that's how it was marketed.
I enjoyed it, but the twist was a let-down and kinda comical.
5 People in a row who actually like that film, that's the biggest twist ever :-)
I haven't seen it since it came out, but I thought it was great. As good as Unbreakable even. Perhaps I would think differently on a rewatch, but yeah, never understood all the hate for it.
"The Others" had a nice twist.
“Full Goldblum”.
I think if you took a survey asking "Does 'Annihilation' have a twist?" the majority would say yes.
Wait was the "twist" for Solo? Lucasfilm sold us out? Or was that actually in the movie?
Did you see the movie?
No.
Not many people say the movie
"The twist was that there was no twist." - RedLetterMedia
Solo's "twist" was extremely obvious after the heavy foreshadowing; the cameo that came with it, however, was a surprise.
Wonderful video. I’ve long felt that a good twist needs to reinforce everything that came before, not throw it out.
While agreeing with most of the opinions in this video, I feel like defending two of the movies here. or rather, defending one, and only partially defending the other
(a) The Game - I have to defend the Game of "The Game". Its an Alternate Reality Game. Its the stuff that would later be exemplified by the Beast ARG game of "AI". Or the marketing sensation that made Cloverfield the movie mystery it was. Or similar ARG s used both officially, like for series like LOST, to unofficially, like Marble Hornets. Yes, a game like "The Game" would have made the makers be liable for lawsuits, but, that is not the point of the movie. The point is that the guy is playing the greatest possible ARG experience, one that seems so realistic, that he only knows it isn't real at the end. It is a "its just a prank bro" kind of experience, but there is a difference between a minor prank, and something like a professional ARG with cryptic clues, people chasing after you, and, at the end, a "prize", the Grail that you had come after a long journey. In the case of The Game, I feel it was both a literal big birthday bash (courtesy of the brother, who paid for the experience), and a metaphorical prize, that the protagonist may have found a new flame thanks to his adventure. To appreciate Fincher's "The Game", one has to understand the phenomena of the Alternate Reality Gaming experience, as well as its schizophrenic implications. The Game, I find, is the kind of movie I'd use to introduce movies to the concept of the ARG (followed by the Cloverfield marketing campaign)
(b) The Village - I don't think the twist in the village was "bad", but it did seem to undermine the final conflict of the movie.That being said, they did hint that there was "no monster" earlier in the movie, thus lending credence to the idea that they wanted to let the audience know earlier. I still feel that the twist in the Village was not bad, but this is more because I kind of "get" what Shyamalaan was trying here - a recurring theme in Shyamalaan's work had been the interplay between fiction and reality, as well as the role of mythos and religion. The story the village elders told their children was meant to be a metaphor for religion, working the idea that, while religion may have certain falsehoods or creates certain malevolent entities (that may or may not exist), it has an underlying truth or goal that could be empathized with. The village elders had all came from a personal tragedy, and the founder of the experiment wanted to create a community that was shielded from the evils of modern world, in a simulation similar to the Amish. The Village is not a perfect movie, but there was definitely a germ of an interesting concept there. I also loved that scene of the film's two main characters, Ivy & Lucius, sitting on the porch. It is a touching love moment, but, on a first viewing, with that mist in the background, there was a slight trepidation, a fear that the "monster" would come out. Telling the audience early about this monster undermines the "danger" one gets from the porch scene.
Well, writing genuinely new twists that surprise even the most experienced and educated viewer becomes increasingly difficult with every single script that is written. Every _good_ twist creates expectations in the audience that need to be avoided or circumvented in the future in order to achieve a _new_ , truly _good_ twist. I have seen this with Ex Machina, where the "who is really human here?" and "the machine does not know it's not human" twists from Blade Runner are *massively* built up, and then the only way to resolve it was "Nope, no twist here. She's the machine, he's the human. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along, move along". Which is disappointing as hell to the attentive viewer who realizes he is being set up for _something_ and hungers for a reveal that is a) fresh and b) makes *sense* .
The most twisted example of twisting for twists' sake that movie culture has escalated to (so far) is The Last Jedi, when Ryan Johnson clearly built _everything_ in his plot around setting up expectations for the sole purpose of "subverting" them, or - as I call it - _disappointing_ them. Films are at a point, it seems, when they declare bankrupcy on original writing because there is nothing truly new to write, and so some turn to absurd patterns that refuse any form of realism. It's what happened to painting a hundred years ago all over again, when photography was the new realism that the old artform could not hope to beat, so the old art denounced their former goal and went abstract.
None of your Business I agree, was thinking along the same lines watching this video. So much content is pumped out that new story lines are just not possible anymore. I think people realize on some level that if they keep watching content, they are going to get more dissppointments as time passes, but they watch tons of movies and tv shows anyway, then complain that nothing is original anymore. Well sorry but you have no excuse, should have known this would happen after watching thousands of tv shows and movies. Perhaps one should curb their content intake a bit, or don't and set themselves up for heartache.
Should we be categorizing the videos based on the lava lamp present? Or will it be a season-like timestamp we can use to break the channels content into phases for discussion (I liked original lamp Georg the best, oh idk I liked how Blue Green Lamp Georg had a nice bit of bite to it, etc.)
Rainbow lamp is best lamp.
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There was kind of a twist at the end of Annihilation when we realize both her and her husband are now alien clones.
Twister had the best twist(er).
Biggest twist ever is Kat and Zoe Slater. Never saw that one coming. “You’re not my mother!” “Yes I am!!”. Twist gold
Annihilation had a twist yo
The husband is not the husband
Yeah, though to be honest I watched the whole movie waiting for the 'big twist' and it never happened. That made me quite confused as to what the fuck I had watched, especially near the end with that alien thing.
And she may not have been herself when she came back too
So the boy's crazy dad in American Beauty was RIGHT to confront Spacey at the end.