The Big 3 and The Future of Shonen Jump - Phanta

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  • @Badingading
    @Badingading Місяць тому +7

    Some corrections and clarifications:
    - Anime was exploding in popularity in the 2000s in the west, mostly driven by fansubs. Toonami was basically there as a gateway and for more casual fans but the anime community lived and breathed around fansubs of whatever was airing in the current season up until Crunchyroll took over that role. So characterizing that period as feeling stagnant in comparison to the 90s and 2010s feels misleading and myopic because it was the growth started in the 2000s that kicked off the explosion in the 2010s.
    - Attack on Titan was never a Shonen Jump title, it was published in a completely separate magazine.
    - While Chainsaw Man did run in Shonen Jump, since part 2 started it has been published on Jump+ instead.
    - Spy x Family was always a Jump+ title.

  • @anarchyintheusa4443
    @anarchyintheusa4443 2 місяці тому +35

    Kagurabachi is gonna slam in the west once its adapted. And the Dandadan anime will end up putting it in the magazine like what happened to Chainsaw man

    • @GenJuhru
      @GenJuhru Місяць тому +1

      Is there a chance for a bad adaptation? Coz we've had those hyped up mangas but when the anime came... Oof

    • @Jekiterio
      @Jekiterio Місяць тому +3

      Kagurabachi has kinda artifical hyped to be honest, it has nothing new and lacks originality.

    • @democard1199
      @democard1199 Місяць тому

      ​​@@GenJuhru
      Just never let SJW studio that filled with LGBTQ or Feminazi touch it (look at Crunchyroll).

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 Місяць тому +2

      @@Jekiterio these kinda of comments sometimes make me wish we could see dislikes
      My guy, not everything needs to be completly different from what made me an anime fan to begine with. Shockingly, i like serises that execute the things i like well.

    • @noahsarc9531
      @noahsarc9531 24 дні тому

      Chainsaw Man left Weekly Jump. And they ain’t adding Dadandan to the magazine. Or any Jump+ title or otherwise.

  • @lamphan4333
    @lamphan4333 Місяць тому +30

    10:19 Actually, Totally Not Mark found out the origin of the name "Big 3" after talking to Crunchyroll staff.
    The truth is that Weekly Shounen Jump always has a survey page at the end of each issue asking readers which chapters in the magazine have the most influence on them. Since 2000, of course, it has always been One Piece, Naruto and Bleach (except for the one time Toriko almost replaced Bleach in this survey). That is also the main reason Jump wants to invest more in promoting these three series - starting with bringing the 3 anime versions of these 3 names abroad, always using the images of these 3 series in important events.
    Yep, the "Big 3" are completely real, recognized by Jump itself, not completely a name created by Western fans. It's not just called by the name "Big 3".

  • @obvv7714
    @obvv7714 2 місяці тому +13

    We’re entering an era where new series will have more of room to breathe with some juggernaut IPs out of the way. I think it’s the type of landscape that could allow unexpected contenders to really blow up making it hard to predict right now. It should be really interesting to see what the next few years look like.

  • @Axelblaze1022
    @Axelblaze1022 Місяць тому +4

    Pokémon was the most popular anime until XYZ ended . You underestimate how many children watched Pokémon worldwide

  • @SemekiIzuio
    @SemekiIzuio Місяць тому +3

    Thank you for the trip down memory lane 😭
    Im glad I was born in the generation that was the big 3 and the rise of shounen anime/manga because so many beautiful stories were written and told and I got to experience them. I think the people who want another big 3 are the people who werent there to experience it because it really was such a precious time reading theamga weekly and watching it on Toonami or [adult swim]

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio Місяць тому

      And yes in JJK i didnt immediately love it either but I liked it. Season 1 was good and I was getting very similar Bleach vibes from it because it had a more mature dark atmosphere to it but it wasn't until I read HI/PD that I fell in love with Gege story telling in a short span of 15 chapter with so much conveyed. Hes got talent, I just wish he had expanded and explored more with it.

  • @samueleinhorn6713
    @samueleinhorn6713 2 місяці тому +9

    Attack on Titan isn't from Shonen Jump

  • @Ray-wz8sg
    @Ray-wz8sg 29 днів тому

    At least to me, an anime newbie, it's weird how the weekly magazine post JJK is banking so much on the success of Kagurabachi and sorta Sakamoto Days to be hits while Jump + has been doing great in comparison: Spy x Family is obvious how big of a hit that's been, Chainsaw Man Part 2 has moved to Jump +, Kaiju no 8 has been going strong, Dadadan is already a massive hit and the first episode of its anime has had amazing reception, Choujin X is loved by Tokyo Ghoul fans and could get just as big if given a proper anime adaptation, Wild Strawberry feels like it could be a cult classic horror-action if handled properly, and Ruri Dragon feels like it could be the next cute girl anime to take over the internet (even more than it already has), and those are just the ones I'm familiar with, maybe this is a turning point in how digitally published manga are becoming just as big or bigger than manga published in weekly magazines (not to mention how the authors of Jump + manga often has more creative freedom and looser publishing schedules than the weekly magazine authors)

  • @Blueyboii-ix9cm
    @Blueyboii-ix9cm Місяць тому +4

    Mission yozakura family is in its final arc and so is black clover. I honestly think it’s gonna be Kagurabachi and Dandadan that take the reigns over for Shonen Jump. And yeah I agree that spy family will be one of the face of Shonen Jump that takes over.

  • @TotesMalotes28
    @TotesMalotes28 10 днів тому

    You have plenty of great manga ready to replace the previous series. A few I can think of are kagurabachi, sakamoto days, and my personal favorite dandadan. You also have spy family and undead unluck continuing. I believe when one era ends, there will always be new manga ready to step up.

  • @oleksandrbyelyenko435
    @oleksandrbyelyenko435 Місяць тому

    2000's anime was so good. Really underrated decade

  • @sofarsogood8680
    @sofarsogood8680 Місяць тому +1

    I'm totally okay if there is a new big 3 or even big 2 of shonen for todays gen. But it's up to Shueisha to prompt and market them up in mainstream. Also Japanese readers preferences are important too as they are the one who mostly buy Shonen jump and deciding in that magazine poll which manga they like the most.

  • @jaymenjanssens720
    @jaymenjanssens720 Місяць тому

    6:35 Naruto facing Sasuke has been a default image on pirate streaming sites through out my entire life.

  • @markanderson7236
    @markanderson7236 Місяць тому

    17:28 It's worth noting that Shonen Jump appears to be launching a contest soon, with prominent artists such as the author of My Hero Academia selecting candidates for recognition or something similar.

  • @aniketmathur2391
    @aniketmathur2391 26 днів тому

    Gachi akuta will be boomed remember that 💥💥💥

  • @mirage3663
    @mirage3663 Місяць тому +1

    Pretty sure chaonsaw man came out in the late 2010's and is still in shonen jump

    • @almac5446
      @almac5446 Місяць тому

      Well I mean there's fire Punch

  • @ttimothytran
    @ttimothytran 2 місяці тому +6

    Attack on Titan was never in jump though...

  • @noahsarc9531
    @noahsarc9531 Місяць тому +1

    If you think One Piece is ending in 2-3 years, you’re kidding yourself. That’s just how long Elbaf will take.

    • @randomclouds4404
      @randomclouds4404 24 дні тому

      Seems too short, maybe Elbaf will be 5 years long

    • @adaurysantos
      @adaurysantos 4 дні тому

      ​@@randomclouds4404 That's unrealistic. Oda wasn't willing to make even Wano that long.

    • @randomclouds4404
      @randomclouds4404 4 дні тому

      @@adaurysantos I technically said that as a joke from how long the series is but I'll get back to you on that

    • @adaurysantos
      @adaurysantos 4 дні тому

      @@randomclouds4404 Oh my bad I couldn't tell

  • @shashwatmishraalumni4918
    @shashwatmishraalumni4918 24 дні тому

    Aot was in kodansha
    Isayama didnt agree to weekly shonnen jump of changing his story

  • @Zuranthus
    @Zuranthus Місяць тому

    it was really more like the big 2 (Naruto/Bleach) OP didn't start catching on stateside until after Naruto started winding down and Bleach was on its last legs

  • @romanmajima
    @romanmajima Місяць тому

    Kagurabachi is definitely going to grow bigger.

  • @oleksandrbyelyenko435
    @oleksandrbyelyenko435 Місяць тому

    17:16 but AoT was published in a different magazine

  • @BassBoostingBrony
    @BassBoostingBrony Місяць тому

    I might be biased since ive been reading since chapter 7 but,
    i think kagurabachi is gonna be big too!
    its just an all in all good package! great characters, amazing panels, a simple power system.
    it doesnt break the meta by any means, but its doing great.
    for someone who dislikes demonslayer, its just demonslayer done right^^
    and it COULD reach the same heights ^^

  • @graynight3478
    @graynight3478 Місяць тому

    Heres to a new generation of manga

  • @Zeaks123
    @Zeaks123 Місяць тому +1

    Gachiakutaaaaa

  • @BrandonPyle-v5m
    @BrandonPyle-v5m Місяць тому

    The Origin of the Big 3 is probably due to Proto-weebs importing the concept of the Golden Trio. A semi-official marketing term used in the previous generation of Shonen Jump (Dragonball's for a framd of reference) to denote their three most popular titles usually shown by being constantly at the front page in marketing.
    This might be why the term, there will not be another Big Three also fits for some as One Piece can be said to have continued into not one but two new generations (even if its set to end in the current one) which kind of screwed over those who would have normally replaced it.

  • @selfishbeats
    @selfishbeats Місяць тому

    the big 3 is a rotating term, and seems to refer to series still in action. you're looking at the big as the 3 saniin and something that wont change

    • @adaurysantos
      @adaurysantos 4 дні тому

      Big 3 solely refers to One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats 4 дні тому

      @@adaurysantos no it does not anymore , just because it started as that doesn’t mean it’s at that

    • @adaurysantos
      @adaurysantos 4 дні тому

      @@selfishbeats It does. The big 3 were the 3 manga that dominated Shonen Jump during the 2000's and saved it from bankruptcy after Dragon Ball ended. No other 3 manga will ever do that again.
      You can make your own headcanon on what the 3 most popular current manga are but that does not make them the big 3.

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats 4 дні тому

      @ the new big 3 , that’s how people use it as a position not a thing nobody is thinking about bleach anymore.

    • @adaurysantos
      @adaurysantos 4 дні тому

      @@selfishbeats The problem with "the new big 3" is that there no definitive one. Everyone has their own headcanon of what it is and constantly arguing about it. And I don't know what Bleach specifically has to do with this but it is one of the most popular anime right now and has inspired a vast majority of today's most popular manga.

  • @OATHSPACE
    @OATHSPACE 2 місяці тому

    Love the videos bro keep it up!!!

    • @phantaonYT
      @phantaonYT  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you so much I appreciate you!

  • @Prophet_of_Colour
    @Prophet_of_Colour Місяць тому

    Grow
    and keep growing.

  • @quintenstrobel5791
    @quintenstrobel5791 Місяць тому

    Boruto two blue Vortexx is fucking heat. I’ve been an anime only person my whole life but I loved Naruto so much I wanted to watch Boruto NNG but the anime kinda sucked so much filter so I just said fuck it watched a recap on Boruto and just started reading two blue vortex and I’m happy I did

  • @shiesGamingZZ
    @shiesGamingZZ Місяць тому

    Attack on Titan is from Weakly Shonen Magazine of Kodansha
    Not from Weekly Shonen Jump of Shuiesha

  • @Jekiterio
    @Jekiterio Місяць тому

    One of the issues with modern manga is that a lot of them are transitioned to fully digital which makes stuff look so stiff and lifeless. The way newer manga has the CSM and JJK approach to artstyle makes the characters look so sterilized.

  • @Baraborn
    @Baraborn Місяць тому

    I wish Kaiju No 8 would get its act together.

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 Місяць тому

      i'm sorry but it's time to be real. It was always mid. It is just fights after fights and characters randomly powering up to the same level is the strongest of the deffense force ofscreen in a few months.

  • @Mikesamen
    @Mikesamen Місяць тому

    Yo nice BobbyBroccoli Blender editing you fan

  • @Magwell-e6x
    @Magwell-e6x 2 місяці тому +1

    there is no big 3, only big Phanta

  • @Adam-jr4lx
    @Adam-jr4lx Місяць тому

    the favorite manga of your favorite mangaka was devilman or maybe ring ni kakero

  • @OATHSPACE
    @OATHSPACE 2 місяці тому

    🔥

  • @Jekiterio
    @Jekiterio Місяць тому

    1:25 you forgot inflation.. but yes today anime/manga is more widespread.

  • @DaKing540
    @DaKing540 Місяць тому

    One piece king its lasting another 5,6 years easy plus everything that happens after it ends I mean it’s about pass Superman in sales that’s something even dragon ball never been able to do

  • @audax_
    @audax_ Місяць тому +1

    No way bro seriously thinks OP is ending in 2-3 years

  • @carlosstjohn116
    @carlosstjohn116 Місяць тому

    Good video but one piece will not be ending in 3 years lol

  • @almac5446
    @almac5446 Місяць тому

    Here's the thing chainsaw man is too damn weird and out there to be on the "big three"

    • @circularnectarine1439
      @circularnectarine1439 Місяць тому

      nah Fujimoto’s insanity makes it unique
      also this mf would NOT survive Fire Punch, if CSM is Fujimoto off his meds then Fire Punch is Fujimoto feral in the woods on crack

    • @almac5446
      @almac5446 Місяць тому

      @@circularnectarine1439 like readers or himself

  • @nightlydata2181
    @nightlydata2181 Місяць тому

    Really solid vid but I mainly want to say ur point on naruto is kinda ass lol. There R too many pp that would disagree wit that claim at least for most of the series. I'll admit that I feel I get wut u're tryin to say but ur wordin seems hella inaccurate & it seems like u're pointin to the wrong thing for ur issue. Or u jus need a rewatch/read idk

    • @twisted4534
      @twisted4534 Місяць тому

      Na he spitting facts, OG naruto's writing was incredible, in shippuden it varied from amazing (pain arc mostly) to mid

  • @shashwatmishraalumni4918
    @shashwatmishraalumni4918 24 дні тому

    Bleach shouldn't be part of big 3
    Dragon ball is wayyy more popular than bleach although theres no story in dbz 😂

    • @adaurysantos
      @adaurysantos 4 дні тому

      Dragon Ball ended before the big 3 even began. It is a part of a completely different generation of manga. The big 3 are the successors of Dragon Ball.