Most archaeologists think the first Americans arrived by boat. Now, they're beginning to prove it
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2017
- Archaeologists are hunting on islands and under the waves for traces of the ancient mariners who likely settled the Americas
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The first aboriginals arrived in Australia and the surrounding Islands almost 60,000 years ago, but the idea that Native Americans could not have possibly sailed to the Americas blatantly highlights the bias in mainstream archaeology. It's my guess that humans, and other hominid species were accomplished Sailors long before they left Africa.
Europeans got here 33,000 years ago. Does anyone talk about it? NOPE. They were called the Solutreans.
@@Thekoryostribalpodcast What are you on about??
First of all, the Solutreans were Black. So they weren't, "European"
What you think of as European didn't happen until much later, after the Yamnaya invaded the Neolithic farmers.
Either way, that has nothing to do with my comment.
1 tribe in the Amazon that stood out from their neighbors was discovered to actually have Australian Aboriginal DNA. Freaking cool
But the land bridge(s) from Asia to Australia would have been a lot more topographically significant; meaning island hopping. I don't think anyone thinks the endeavor resembled anything like the trek today would look like, nor that it would have been doable completely on foot.
We know the natives in Alaska built awesome skin boats so I've always wondered since back in thr ice age there were way bigger animals how big those skin boats could have gotten
Can you imagine floating down the west coast, probably knowing you'd never see home again, no idea where you are going just surviving, probably surviving well but having no idea what's ahead. Absolutely amazing.
One could say that hunter gatherers had no home, which primed them for such adventures.
This video is in need of an update. Footprints found in White Sands New Mexico date back 28,000 years. We defenitely mastered ocean travel. Polynesians have a high percentage of Desnisovan DNA. Aboriginel peoples are probably those who discovered the Americas after extending to Australia, as well.
I also believe that around Haida Gwaii they’ve found evidence of settlement in fairly flat areas that are under ocean water today.
When I studied archaeology at WSU in the early 1990's the interior migration route was already in doubt. Clovis sites tend to get younger as they move from south to north, an interior migration should show the opposite, them getting younger as they move from north to south. Many other things in the archaeological evidence didn't support an interior migration either. A coastal migration was suspected, but at that time there was very little evidence to support it due to the rise in sea level.
Virginia Steen-McIntyre found artefacts which were dated (by three or four different laboratories!) at between 90,000 to 280,000 years ago, in Hueyatlaco in the Valsequillo Basin in Mexico.
She was banished from the archaeological community in disgrace, yet nobody to date, as far as I know, has been able to prove the findings wrong. I doubt we'll ever find closure on this issue.
@@SenhorTudo one day I hope we will drop the non sense of people "migrating" or "entering" or "came to" the Western Hemisphere. Instead accept the probability man was here, in and of himself, here. From Patagonia up thru all of South America, mid America and North America. I'll even go so far as to say Man and his higher achievements had their Genesis in the West not the east. They base their model on lack of early human fossils and the lack of an ape in the west. They ignore what rapid melting of two ice sheets would do to terrain and anything on it or in it. The west was ground zero too many times for total obliteration's. The wild wild west if it were. The Amazon = the Pharmacia of the world, abundance of fresh water tributaries and rivers and lakes, vast grass lands, fertile soil and good climate all the way north into what's now the US. That breadbasket, fertile cradle of civilization they point to in N Africa and up into Anatolia, nah. Sand grows absolutely nothing and that Nile valley ain't a smidge of what the West had / has to offer. Someone needs to breathe new life into Mrs. Mcintyre's work, no? When you have time there are some rather recent video's here on UA-cam, look up megalithic walls, structures at Giant's playground in Montana, also at Sage Mtn Center in Montana. Big beautiful stones aligned in linear fashion matching what we see at the high altitudes of Puma Punku and around the earth but showing signs of damage and toppling. Exactly what you'd expect as the structures sat just south of the glacial edges of Laurentide & Cordileran prior to catastrophe. Thanks for sharing the information, I will research the woman's work and the findings.
@@BHeisler59 One factor that has been a source of much pondering on my part is the occurrence of beings that were regarded as "other" in so many legends around the world. In China we have the Dropa; The Hopi people speak of "ant people"; then there is the "nommo" of the Dogon people in Africa to mention but a few. In some cases they are elevated to the rank of "gods"; whereas in other cultures they were tutors who advanced the knowledge of the people with whom they interacted. These ancient people did not have the vocabularies to adequately relate what they were witnessing, so that their descriptions are garbled to us - and therefore not worthy of consideration to the "scientists".
Who - or what - were these enigmatic beings? Could it be that they created the different races and influenced them according to their own individual philosophies?
We're sitting on this planet looking out at the rest of the universe, sending probes into what we term "space" (vast distances to our puny minds, but actually not even an attometer in cosmic terms) like goldfish in a bowl on the mantelpiece, looking out at the comings and goings of these weird, gigantic creatures that feed us and clean our environment, having absolutely no clue as to what they are, what they are doing or anything about them.
Our governments, their agencies and "educational facilities" waste unimaginable sums of money and millions of man hours competing for dominance, suppressing the masses and investigating things that have absolutely no value the people they are supposed to be serving and uplifting.
My personal theory is that man is a venture by superior intellects into the viability of an organic form of A.I.: an experiment, if you will, but somewhere along the way it fell off the rails. Man is thus, in my opinion, a failed experiment and when I look at what mankind has become today, I am in despair that I am a member of this degenerate species.
@@SenhorTudo lol
@@SenhorTudo Really? Wow such a discovery? I can't believe she was banished.
This was a really well presented video, a really significant amount of detail and information to support the central point in a very short amount of time. Thanks for the concise and succinct content!
The sea coasts contain easily obtained sources of food such as clams and kelp. The idea that early humans were up to slaying mastodons is far fetched. Also, boats are faster; locomotion by walking could not account for the massive population spread in 10,000 years or so.
@Sean T no, not impossible, but humans have always picked the lowest fruit from the tree. A clam or sea kelp never fought back. Even when they did isotope analysis on the Kennewick man, they found that he had mainly a marine mammal and shellfish diet. Hunting large megafauna like mammoths and mastodons would have been a dangerous and costly venture. Surely there would have been easier sources of food. The idea that they could have wiped out all the megafauna like mammoths, Cave Bears, and saber tooth tigers in just a few hundred years is ridiculous.
you are one of a few.
Also cannot account for the linguistic and cultural diversity on the western sides of both continents
@@moemuggy4971 not that ridiculous , they were called hunters and gathers for a reason ,women gathered the men hunted , it wouldn't be far fetched for a group of 6-12 to prove their manliness but spearing a mammoth right in the heart , they could have even made a game of it , did they wipe them out ? No that was the ice age 10,000 years ago .
I think evidence for mastadon eating was interpreted as hunting and not just scavenging because they found stone points in mastadons who had survived and healed.
Boats seem so obvious but anthropologists are academics. Some have learned flint knapping but none of them seem to understand how simple a seaworthy skin-on-frame boat can be to design and build. They understand that stone age people made tents, fished, and chopped wood but seem to have a hard time saying they had boats even when so much evidence makes it seem very likely.
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Ive been a coastman for the past few years because the evidence is overwhelming. Island hopping to visible islands likely has been done for a hundred thousand years and they boated across sections to australia for a known 40,000 years. Then with artifacts or footprints I am a strong believer if these rare spots are found you likely have to double it. The prints at white sands at 23,000 that makes it AT LEAST 30,000. The shoreline with its abundant food combined with doing forays to hunt animals plus inland cross ice sheets or corridors YOU WOULD BE EATEN. also the prevailing currents down the pacific shores are south. also the ice sheets people CAN AND DO walk along for miles and miles. not all ice sheets or pack ice are broken up glaciers and crevasses. The people lets say 50,000 years ago also people picture them like ape men but they were as intelligent as us if not more so. A thing to note is no relic in the americas has ever been found such as "crude tools by developing apes" such as in africa. Crude tools of course would be quickly made or simply used rocks to smash open bones but they are always found along with perfect points. The clovis spear points were masterpieces.
On contrary even before the prints were discovered they estimate it to be at least 30,000 years ago because the preserved young Alaskan girl that was frozen. The prints on the contrary make the them assume it's possible humans could've been here since the stone Age. As for the land bridge it was there for over the past 100,000 years with the ice age and disappeared around 30,000 years ago. On the contrary humans migrate out of Africa 60,000 years ago while tools are found in Australia 80,000 years ago. Meanwhile Neanderthals resided in Europe. In regards a site found in San Diego with tools suggest the humans were in North America dating back 130,000 years ago which people are really trying to deny. Unlike the clovis which were stone tools these tools were made of bone and they used bones to carve tools from more bones. Also that info came in 2017. A lot of new evidence being found recently. The Alaskan girl and the land bridge is fairly old evidence. I think it's fascinating though we're still discovering things modernly. Also I think why they would want to deny possible truths is it'd legitly state that Indigenous people were always in the Americas even through the 2 possible other hominid races we know that resided in Europe and Australia. Tbh I think it's a fair thought. I mean Australia as well humans would've crossed a gap of ocean as well though at one time New Zealand also had a much larger continent and it is practically under water now.
its also worth noting that during the ice age, there was a lot more coastline and land to live on than their is today. so a lot of archaeological evidence is very likely underwater. for example, New Jersey at one point extended MUCH further out to sea than it does today, so a lot of evidence is very likely underwater or washed away. the west coast is a bit different due to the continental shelf but in some places this still holds true.
The video notes this.
@@NoahStephens mightve missed it or forgot they mentioned it. Either way, worth emphasizing imo.
How do we know it wasn’t by land and sea? Groups could have split up to explore and expand upon each route!
You take the high road and I'll take the low road?
Travelling by water would be so much easier than waiting for the continental ice sheets to melt.
Bingo...leap frogging
Archeologists.. the last to figure out the obvious...like Fauci and covid 19...the Bill Gates Pandemic!
Ya, most likely came from all different directions and from many different time periods as well.. we act like it’s almost impossible because we put our own shortcomings upon them, however I can pretty much guarantee you early man(woman) was much more capable and tougher than we are.
archaeological site, Monte Verde, Chile - 33.000 years old
Most probably. You can see land across from Siberia to Alaska. From a boat.
( High Mountains visible. )
kindly google Beringia ...
Eh? Read a book!
Flunk. Bering Island blocks the view to see Alaska and in bad weather you cant see it at all. I can not see Catalina Island from Long beach which is 29 miles and you can see Alaska from Siberia, Use critical thinking skills.
@@NEWYORKNEWYORK7 no smog 13000 years ago. Long Beach
Ok now lets go back say 40,000 years. In the middle of an Ice Age a constant -25F no summer to speak of. That land bridge is a 100 foot thick sheet of ice. Devoid of food... walking through 3 feet of snow with nothing to eat!!! What do you think your rate of survival would be? None of the Inuit look alike groups moved south. The Mongolians, the Greenland Inuit, the Laplanders, the Siberian Steppe people!!!! thy are all still there.
And, they are all very territorial. Food and supplies are extremely scarce in the Arctic.
If you do not know how to survive in this area you die. Just like the early explorers who ventured into the Arctic. They starved to death or they froze. It is the same today as it was 40,000 years ago. Nobody in their right mind ventured into the Arctic without the knowledge of how to survive there. If anything, it was coastal foragers who followed the edge of the ice pack to North America. A peoples that know how to harvest Sea mammals and fishes. Knew that rendered whale fat made fire. I believe the Haida are some of those people.
What about the Meadowcroft site in New England? Dates go back to 35,000 years. Some First Nations on the BC coastal Islands have been separate populations for 25,000 years.
Many sites/remains have been dated well over 100,000 so even those numbers are off. These findings are always covered-up and suppressed. There are even findings beyond one million years; the problem is we do not dig down deep enough to get to the true beginning, if that's even possible.
Probably because it`s not convenient for the main stream of the scientific community. There were sites with findings dating over 25,000 in Brazil as well.
@WAFFEN COLLIDER www.haidagwaiiobserver.com/local-news/study-re-traces-the-environment-of-ice-age-haida-gwaii/
Meadowcroft is in southwest Pennsylvania, not New England.
is carbon dating off? Are we as humans older then we think?
The life style of Northern islanders in Chishima/Kuril were paleolithic one of seafarer nomad and could be a candidate people who had
entered American new continent through kelp highway by boats.
This story neglects to talk about pre-homo sapiens inhabitants of North America. Homo erectus was a seafaring species as well.
The video wasn’t about conjecture or what ifs.
@@macarde10 Sure it was. You don't know the scientific process.
I dont believe they traveled over land. I find it hard to believe humans would travel through Siberia (even at its warmest 20,000 years ago is still frigid) and the Alaskan Yukon (see Siberia) and think that they would find a place to set up shop if they pushed a little bit longer. You know many died during that journey. They didnt have maps. So they followed Animals which probably got less and leas abundant as cold as it got?
Now the Polynesians have been sea-faring for over 10,000 years as we know it. It isnt out of the realm of possibility that they also sailed 10,000 years even before that. So maybe those early people like the Polynesians were sea-faring as well. It would explain the dates mentioned in the video and it can finally put this preposterous idea that humans traveled over 3,000 miles in harsh extreme cold in hopes that maybe they might find a better place to hunt. Why are the Siberian and Yukon areas almost desolate and devoid of human life? Because it is beyond what our bodies can endure to survive. Tell me how again how and why they would make this ridiculous trek?
They did, it just wasn't the only thing. Try asking your questions toward sources instead of youtube comments.
wonder how the people who reached mexico 250,000 years ago got there
@@21LAZgoo boat
@@asecretturning Yup, people learned how to live in Siberia by 25 kya or earlier (e.g. Mal'ta people). They expanded to all of Siberia and went east and west to Europe and Americas.
Just finding out first Americans arrived by boat? No one said they arrived by plane though.. something tells me it means the Natives though.
I just watched a great presentation by the Beringia Centre in the Yukon that examined Obsidian tools, such as micro blades and spear tips. The obsidian was obtained near the edge of the last glacial maximum. North west coast of Washington and Southern coast of British Columbia in Canada. They show that the migration through the two ice sheets in western Canada, actually goes from South to North. With the oldest dated tools towards the south. Totally supports the theory that the first people of North America arrived by sea and then started colonizing ice free areas.
What I would LOVE to see is a well financed research into just how people from 15000 years ago could build boats sea worthy enough to handle coastal waters. I'd love to see work on this and maybe some full sized prototypes -- and maybe an attempt at recreating such a crossing. A group of seamen of that era would likely have the knowledge of boat handling and weather, though not with weather forecasting like we have now. I think it likely that some but probably not all of the immigrants, the first immigrants, travelled by sea. One would surmise either a hopscotch approach where a group migrates a distance, sets up a foothold camp, and then more join before some of them take the coast further east and south. We don't give 'us' enough credit for what we were able to do 15,000 years ago.
Why are the largest concentrations of clovis points found in eastern US if they originated from Asia?
The Smithsonian made an article awhile back basically saying that there is too much genetic, cultural, and linguistic diversity to be from one source population. They admitted racism influenced this too. The truth will come out
@@corneliusjohnson5963 they found a couple ships from greece and rome off of south america, as well as african stylized art such as stone carved heads in south america, also one of the oldest skulls found in south american was aferican.
what im getting at is the winds blow off of africa and push to the americas (think of the hurricanes that hit the united states east coast). if boats were trapped in a storm they could easily get blown down there and survive as long as they had enough food, water, and could survive the ocean. that is a possibility, but on the other side of the americas
Kyle Oien stating that which is not, doesn’t make it so.
As for the Clovis points, there’s clearly earlier sites. Clovis was not first. Your solutrean hypothesis is now discounted by archaeologists. Genetics have shot this idea down. Perhaps the eastern half of the United States was friendlier to the fauna they were hunting. People did follow food...hence the hunter and gather idea.
Discounting the Solutrean Hypothesis is a bit premature. Sure, genetic code, none noted in current populations of the Americas. As with the Mega Fauna the hominids disappeared between the Pleistocene & Holocene in North America. In all likelihood due to multiple comet impacts across North America. Randal Carlton & Kosmographia delve deep into the fingerprints of Mass destruction during the Younger Dryas. Arctic Core Samples support this. Ocean Core Sample meltwater pulse 1a & 1b support this. No Clovis after the black mat layer. The people’s & mega fauna where all lost to cataclysm. New population spread across the Americas. Hence no genetic markers in today’s population
I live in Alaska. As I understand it, the first people to arrive here were the ancestors of the modern Aleuts and they came by sea starting about 25,000 years ago. The short face bear kept humans out on land until it went extinct about 12,000 years ago.
Where did the Aleuts come from. I know also about the Vikings coming over long before Columbus.
@@jacquesjanssen7361 They migrated from the islands off the Russian coast. Except that was long before it was Russian. The cave bear kept humans from migrating into North America for a long time. No bears on the islands.
"The short face bear kept humans out on land until it went extinct about 12,000 years ago." that is just duuumbah
If Clovis was a asiatic technology you would expect to see previous forms of the technology in Siberia.....Rather than in southwestern europe.
wow… very good point. You change the game with that line of thinking
just because a rock made by native americans vaguely looks like european knapping doesnt prove anything. same way mayan codexs and writing might resemble that of european/mesopatamian writing does not indicate that they were invented together coincidences arent serious evidence
I'm throwing this out there, here is what I believe happened. There were three waves of closely related migrants into the Americas. The first came down the shoreline of the West Coast, island hopping from Asia along the Alaskan coast then south towards what is now California. At first, they did not go into the interior very far, finding all they needed along the coast and up rivers a short distance, their culture fully adapted to sea/river living. They kept going, and very quickly settled all the way to the Southern tip of South America.
The second, and later migration, came over the land bridge and through the ice-free corridor between ice sheets. These people went south, but past the ice sheet they turned east and spread down the Mississippi and over to the Atlantic coast. They thrived until a comet hit the Canadian ice sheet over most likely Quebec, with the force of the blast being sent south over the Eastern part of the ice free Eastern North America, wiping out the vast majority, if not all, of the population. In time, members of the first migration moved east, and even northeast from South America, to fill the void in Eastern North America left by the comet strike.
Then a wave of migration brought yet another closely related people from NE Asia which saw the Athabaskans and related peoples move east and south; Inuit peoples moving north and east. This is just what I have derived from seven decades of gathering information from eclectic sources.
@R Nedlo 2 Esdras 13:40 "Those are the ten tribes, which were caried away prisoners out of their own land, in the time of Osea the king, whom Salmanasar the king of Assyria lead away captive, and he carried them over the waters, and so came they into another land. But they took this council amongst themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow passages of the River. For the most high then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. For through that country there was a great way to go; namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. (America's)
Native Americans are the Biblical Israelites
@@thriftytraveler2001 If so, it would show up in their DNA/language/culture. Not one of those indicators are there.
There were three waves of closely related migrants into the Americas.
@@rnedlo9909 In New Mexico they found Hebrew Artifacts that had the ten commandments, Truth is coming out and jesus is coming really soon. google "Los Lunas Decalogue Stone ". YOU have yet to PROVE anything commenting back and forth to me.
Danish researchers have proven the land corridor theory is impossible, for over a thousand years after it first opened the corridor was a uninhabitable frozen rock desert that stretched for over a thousand miles with almost no vegetation, any animals including humans that attempted the journey through the corridor would have starved throwing their dates even further out of the realm of possibility, not even including sites like Monte Verde also showing it was impossible.
Corridor now dated: it was open to buffalo by about ~13,500 BP, perhaps slightly later. By 13,000 it was wide open for sure. How does that fit?
Of course they went down the coast. There is a lot of easy food to be had along the rocks in the ocean. They could have walked it too in a few generations.
lol yeh easy food until you run into the Haida. They love it when people steal their food. Same as the Plains indians.. they never minded people crossing their land and stealing their food.
Correction: Beringia not Bering Strait, land routes not land-bridge.
I'm curious about the walrus hunting Inuit and Nunavut related cultures who were moving around Greenland and Svalbard before 100BC. Do they count as discovering americas if they migrated from the east but not if they arrived by coming from the west, through alaska?
During the last iceage the so-called ice-free corridor was too cold for wildlife, very few habitation sites, the Upper Porcupine River an epic journey with no resources.
Beringia wasn't separated until 12,000yrs ago, the recent 23ky-21ky old footprints at WhiteSandsNP point to an older timeline. The coast of Beringia was a desert, the central part graze for megafauna who migrated east-west to winter refugia with graze.
The coast to a few miles inland was liveable, bear & forest survived north of Vancouver Is. and about 36ky a warming of 1200y-1400y occurred so my pick for early moves south with Holocene temps.
Icy NWesterly trade winds flowed from Siberia kept the north shore vacant during a glacial max.
The timing of Leakey's finds at Calico, CA, USA, is circa the previous interglacial, that is tantalizingly likely to be valid work with Peking Man in place long before.
Fun stuff ☕️
Archelogy is like a religion with it's priests guarding their beliefs
no
The ocean levels were 200 to 300 feet lower during the last ice age! They could have easily walked the shoreline! That’s where we must be looking!
Humans probably came in waves, by sea and then land. Just as they migrated later.
..and not all from Asia..
I dont people travelled through land in ancient times
The first Americans came via land bridge from Europe to North America. Valprasio University and a Chinese University have studies suggesting Europeans arrived first at least 5,000 years before the Asians.
The suggestion is wrong then. Genetics refute that idea. The Chinese actually don’t claim anything of the sort. They claim that civilization came from China into the Americas, but that people were already here.
No
But if we assume early humans moved by boat then how did all the early big game animals like elk move into North America? If the big animals moved across the bridge then it makes sense humans may have done the same. My guess is humans probably did both, some by boat and some by land.
The large animals were here since the the worlds land mass was all connected, pangea, as it was called. When the super continent broke up the animals were distributed across all the different parts that seperated.
@@carlkerstann8343 and who knows maybe some early hominids too ?
There's been several glacial periods, the one talked about in this video is the latest. But such animals would've crossed millions of years before humans.
@@ottodidakt3069 The first ancestor of the nowdays Hominids originated 7 millions years ago, but, at this rate, the continent format were already separeted, almost identical with the today's world.
It's totally possible and has good evidence.i think the point of this hypothesis is that the sea travel explored further down the route, much sooner because it's faster
Interesting theory. Maybe some went across the land bridge , some went island hopping, some sailed , people surely got split up , a hunter of small/large game takes to the land, travels distance (slower) a fisherman, the water (faster). A combination of successes and failures along the way. Thanks for posting some educational topic.
I think the coastal people started their journeys on the East Coast of Asia. Maybe Vietnam.
Discussing about Hokkaido route, Ainu aren't indigenous or aborigine at all. They came in 12th century and no relation with First Americans theme completely. They are quite different from Australian Aborigine and American native Indians' situation. Related people for the First Americans are Proto-Japanese Hokkaido（PJH, Hokkaido Sojin）had lived there, northern part of Japanese archipelago, since 35-30,000 years ago though their bones haven' t been found yet. Similar peoples' bones were found in Okinawa, as samples of 36,000~27,000 years ago. On the other hand, their ancestors are famous for crossing sea more than 20km to collect obsidians at Onbase island in Tokyo islands since 38,000 years ago. Any way, it's not Ainu, but Proto-Japanese Hokkaido（PJH）or Hokkaido Sojin as the ancestral candidate people of the First Americans. These're well known matter about Ainu and ancestors, but really very strange of no mentioning from university scholars' side.
Many of the first Americans came across the Atlantic also.
How
They Island hopped the same way the Vikings did. They went to Faroe Islands to Iceland, Greenland, and Canada. Not easy but very doable in a small boat.
@@michaelfoulkes9502 hardly so. They left no genetic traces behind. Your island hopping idea is also silly. You’re claiming a rather rapid movement across the oceans, which definitely would have brought a copy culture from Europe to the new world. That never happened. The solutrean hypothesis falls short because of all of those weaknesses.
@@macarde10 Dennis Stanford has covered this topic in detail.
@@michaelfoulkes9502 based on a production style. Nothing more, nothing less. Since his original claim, it’s been noted that genetics show absolutely zero admixture from Europe prior to the arrival of the Spanish. Then there’s the points. They look nothing alike. The broad leaf shaped solutrean points look nothing like the fluted Clovis points. And No, he didn’t cover it. There’s a reason why it’s not even considered any longer. He believed there to have been a solid sheet across the oethern Atlantic. Now they say there wasn’t. It was a field of icebergs where the animals they would have hunted, wouldn’t have faired well. The ice is also believed to not have reached into the bay of biscay for the entirety of the year. Why did these people who you believe were so adept to the ice, not go north then? Why not hunt closer to their own lands? Why do west across the Atlantic along icebergs where those animals would have failed to thrive? Lastly, paleoclimatologists also point out that the ice flow would have been headed into Europe, not into North America.
"Hey! lets take a long-ass hike over some of the roughest, coldest terrain in the world, so we can hunt huge critters that can easily stomp us! It will probably take weeks and months, and we'll probably only have a few hours of sunlight everyday. We'll go through an endless valley of glaciers that will be so beautiful!
-said no one. ever.
Walking into the unknown for months with a family unit over glaciated mountains, then across a continental ice sheet is extremely unlikely. It would have been so much easier to make your way down the coast following the migrating birds and sea life. Even in primitive boats, there would have been much less risk, and more sustenance. I believe there were people in NA and then SA well over 20,000 years ago. There would have been a flood of people following 13K years ago, when the ice sheets finally melted.
In the middle of an ice age when half of North America is covered in glaciers, somehow there is this ice free corridor starting it northern Alaska stretching through Canada.
@@coyoteken1000 yeah I can't explain why it either, no one can...it's a miracle.
I figure they'd follow the food. Hunters from the interior would pursue migratory mammals while coastal fishermen and gatherers at low tide would gradually migrate down the coast.
Don't forget the 20000 year old footprints in New Mexico
Still from the north, when will the southern pacific island chains be considered with lower sea levels?
Aaaaah...You guys know that Brazil has stone chips and rock paintings of about 100 and 50 thousand years, right?
(In the Serra da Capivara Park :D)
The rock art is being dated to around 25,000 years ago, while a small number of eminent rock art specialists are proposing an even earlier date - perhaps as far back as 36,000 years ago.
The boat theory is very likely but the video is looking at the wrong coast...
Traveling by water is much more economical and likely they had fish as part of their diet. This makes more sense than wandering into a strange land with unknown dangers by foot. The distribution of human habitation of Pacific Islands further makes this credible.
I am doing that for homework.
one areA that archaeology fails is they cant interpolate because of course "everything needs to be proven with evidence". so they find the footprints in white sands at 23,000 and they do have the mental ability to realize "therefore it had to be MUCH sooner since we found these tracks of what had to be tens of thousands already here for a long time" its not within them--they cant do it. so a machinist like me says "those prints documented at 23,000 means AT LEAST 30,000 because of whats not been found or washed away" NOPE WE CANT HAVE THAT ITS AGAINST THE SCIENTIFIC WAY!! these footprints are 23,000 therefore THEY WERE FIRST ARRIVERS AND HIKED DOWN FROM ALASKA A COUPLE YEARS EARLIER.
Why the distracting music?
Those coastal campsites do not have to march sequentially southward along the coast. That’s the way an amateur thinks. Separate groups would maybe stop at an established site, or just as likely (1) stop short of it, not knowing of its existence. Or, (2) press on to make more miles that day.
In general, it would be appealing to expect their ages to decrease as you go southwards, but that could also be a bad assumption. There may well be large time gaps between groups, completely messing up neat theories. Better th first gather the evidence before theorizing about wha unfound evidence will be, let alone what it could mean.
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Pales in comparison to the Solutreans, who travelled from Europe to the East coast of America 25,000 years ago. There are archeological sights in South Carolina and other states which prove this beyond doubt.
Nah europeans are liar,they are not seafarers
The one went to Cali not the ones in ky I believe they still remember languages some from beringia And more native American and me half and half European
But american
Native Americans are originally from Africa/Middle East around 600-700 BC. But there was another group before them from the days of Peleg when the earth was divided.
This is late but does anyone know how Refugia relates to this?
It's always cool to learn the stuff you learned as a kid is outdated!!!
When I was a kid the theory of the dinosaur origin of the birds was still controversial.
i am 5 years late but what about the east coast ??
Yeah.
If migrants from Asia traveled to North America by boat and if Australian aborigines sailed to South America by boat why couldn't Europeans have sailed to North America by boat?
From some place(s) in Europe to some place(s) in North America is a shorter distance than a sail from Australia to South America especially considering the Aborigines would also have no destination in mind.
Quite possible. Evidence limited so far.
What nonsense.
South American Archaeologists have long said the first peoples came across to Chile directly from the Polynesian islands 50K years ago and longer. Trade winds, island hopping (oceans were 300-400ft lower then) and only 5000 miles, not the loopy notion of a 12 000mile roundabout marathon.
DNA is also bearing it out.
This is really interesting -- can you suggest any books/articles to read more about it?
@@canwenot5017 Yep, Graham Hancock, America Before " the Key to Earth's Lost Civilisation " I have it on Audible but in any good bookstore also. Enjoy and free your mind.
Any reputable sources?
Graham Hancock is a well-known fraud.
But only there, they didnt reach further.
If you were a hunter gatherer and you had a choice to live off of kelp and slow fat sea cows or 9 ton mastadons or 3 ton bison which would you choose?
So yeah, obviously boats.
one could easily reverse that logic and conclude the contrary
@@ottodidakt3069 please build your hypothesis and explain it to me
@@williamesselman3102 If you had a choice between running mammoths off of cliffs or freezing your ass off harvesting stinky kelp and bobbing up and down on a plank in a frozen dark deep scary wild ocean desperately trying to get around giant ice cliffs which would you choose
so yeah obviously mocassins
not saying your historically wrong, but the logic changes on the perspective
@@ottodidakt3069 I think that's a good point. But if my memory serves me correctly, they set off with a much different climate. If I'm remembering correctly, it was not cold, the sea lions were plentiful as well as the kelp. So in the beginning it would make sense to take the easy Road. But as the climate changed what they once had would be irrelevant because it would just be stories they told their children. Maybe my memory is slipping. It's been a year since I watched it.
Cool name
Sounds like you are assuming all humans came from up north🤔 how do you know there were no humans that came from the South to get to America?? 🤔
Europeans got here 33,000 years ago. Does anyone talk about it? NOPE. They were called the Solutreans.
Ya know this isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
You could walk to Cedros Is back then
I can see how Alaska and Canada was inhabitted by siberian bering strait crossing. But central and south america from bering straight makes no sense at all . What would drive any human society to walk from Alaska to to Peru ? What can they find in the andes that they didnt find i now US , Mexico and so on !
They look more like Polynesians maybe from Polynesians
Samoans and Central Americans natives kinda look similar
@@nstark9897 not at all bro . Not at all
@chapinrey : No one said that any one generation traveled all that way on foot (or otherwise even). It could have taken 100's or even 1.000's of years. You could travel that far in a 100 generations by simply moving less than 50 miles (or whatever it is mathematically) with each new generation. But the main *fact* is this: we will *never have all the facts.* Anyone who says more than that is simply making assumptions.
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Yes they do, Hawaiians too
Multiple migrations. But probably much older than boats.
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By sea vessel and the Bering strait
... and... why are they digging only on the western shores please? The same route was possible on the Atlantic coast! E.g. Kennewick man.
When the first people arrived here there were already land animals here. What does that tell us?
they didn't have to go vegan
One if by Land, Two if by Sea.
According my knowledge the US native Americans came from a area now named Tuvan Republic Kezil capital being part of Russian Federation to day. Is located at the Russian and Mongolian border. DNA research has proven this. They moved what now is Beringh sea to Alaska. They moved by feet and horses. The houses better say tents are identical to the Siberian tents still in use today. Teepee is Yourd in Tuvan language. Above has been scientifically proven.
Yes, that was a major source of the Native American DNA. DNA shows at least four migrations of different people into the Americas...
Assume Behringstreet could be crossed by feed and with horses. Tuvan region is also famous for its wild horses. The tents also named yourds are the larger version of teepees now known to be in use by American native Indians.
ilmfao... animals in the bering area.. in a fully blown ice age...Ice a 100 foot think for a 1000 miles... maybe these animals ate ice???
Kyacks..Eskimos..parallel with the shore...
You guys gotta listen to Kryon. He explains about Lemuria, where it was and what happened when it sank. I wish science would corroborate his statements. Also after the fall of Atlantis, many Atlanteans found their way into South America. We know from Plato this happened about 12,000 years ago.
No, most archeologists do NOT believe this theory.
How do you carbon date a stone that is as old as dirt to be 11,000 thousand years old?
you cant carbon date stone, only organic matter. They probably found the stone buried deeper than some wood or plant fibres, and carbon dated those to put the stone in context
Stone is older than dirt.
NB... 1000 years before any found clovis points! Newer discoveries point to a much earlier migration of peoples.
So seafaring on the west coast but none on the east. hmmm
They would have sailed up the nile from Ethiopia thousands of years earlier
Yay.
Ya know if they would have written down anything we would probably know the answer
came by boats? isn't that what you said was preposterous about the Solutrian theory??? It means people could have come from anywhere by boat. Easter island isn't that far from South America, when was it first peopled?
I'm watching Jim Dixon videos; he respects the Solutrian idea as a possibility. It's a coastal route!
On the other hand, Easter Island is a bazillion light years from South America.
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Every explanation of how native Americans arrived in the Americans is wishy washy
Im a fim believer of the bering strait land bridge theory. but when. who knows. Im apache and if your navajo. you cant deny the resmblance to asians. yes over time the land shaped us. but I mean cmon. at some point in time people came from africa, split off and then eventually came to americas. who knows they coulda walked all the way to chili and brazil.
Andrew Essence why are there pyramids and and in Central America. Why does almost every tribe in America have a flood story. Why do native Americans have a story of a white savior creator who came and said he would come back in the future. How did sweet potatoes get to the Polynesian islands.
There is very little evidence of Asian influence in Native American culture. I think there may have been a few Asians that made it over. For sure no Africans. But for the most part I’m pretty sure the native population is mostly Jews. It all makes sense.
@@drewdown826 DNA evidence suggests migration across the Pacific directly from the Polynesian land mass (50K years ago the oceans were 300-400ft lower) by way of island hopping to Chile. That was one migration. The Bering movement also happened. Still others came across the Atlantic (Solutreans) from southern Spain and France areas approx 16-20K years ago.This is why the Native American Haplogroups are so mixed.
Plenty of solid evidence but politically driven narratives in North America are threatened by it.
@@navajokimball7573 Not Jews - Atlanteans. Jews never built pyramids and are predated by Phoenicians who were definitely on the east coast in 2000BC. Tablets and writings have been found.
Long before the Phoenicians, there were the Caucasians who's perfectly preserved mummies were found in the Windover bog in Florida and gene testing revealed European Caucasians 7000yrs ago.
Don’t know when this video was made, but it is outdated. There were different waves of peoples migrating to the Americas from Siberia of different cultures and periods. Genetics/DNA is writing a more accurate history. There is some evidence that South America was populated by some Australian/Melanesia peoples as some genetics/DNA analysis indicates. I believe that migration took different routes.
That same study argues that the austromelanesian mtdna occurred at some point in Asia, they believe that an extinct ancestral population mixed with the ancestors of native Americans and eventual with other austromelanesians. There’s also a study which believes the actual mixing took place more recently at around 11-13k bc.
There is actually research that indicates that pacific islanders originated out of what is British Columbia, landing first in Hawaii then spreading. Meanwhile other research indicates that the just before them other people migrated (in far less numbers), believe it or not but he DNA link is solid, from what was Persia into Europe then down the African west coast the into the Caribbean, then central and south America, over to Easter Island and landed in NZ a few hundred years before the Maori who descend from the other Pacific Islanders.
The second migration cited is very controversial, not for scientific reasons, but because of the dominant dogma on the subject and the huge legal problem it poses for the Maori claims and their legal settlement with the NZ gov't.
The Asia to Pacific Islands migration theory has been ruled out several times, one good reason is that when navigating by winds and currents as we suppose they did then it doesn't fit. It's actually way easier (including accidentally) to go from the SA west coast to Easter Island and back than from Asia to the islands.
Human history as it was taught to us is cracking on all sides but It will probably take a few more decades to be revised, requiring more undebatable scientific data AND overcoming dogma inherited from the past 2 centuries. So the real story of human expansion is yet to be discovered, and it just may be way more complex than we thought !
Came from many different areas..means of travel..different time periods
Jomon island hoppers...?
... and this is why we're going to space.
Because, humans go over the hill to see what's there.
I recall anthropologists pointing out that in prehistoric Europe the seaways were principal paths of migration rather than barriers. Why not in North America? Aren't the oldest human remains in the Americas from islands off the coast of California?
I'm tired of them using clovis (ies) as an excuse to date/originate everything, as if only one human on one land mass could of EVER of thought about making a sharp, cutting, stone tool 🙄, therefore every person and group MUST have come from a certain location because one person, only thought about making such a thing.
This is bursting at the seams with ignorance
This debate will likely not be settled in our life time. Right now both land and sea are accepted.
If both were possible both probably happened. Also people by sea from Europe could be likely, although lacks DNA evidence.
No the indigenous people came across the Atlantic Ocean from Iberia and North Africa by way of canoe . Same lithics and same teeth. I've been studying American lithics for 74 years.
Seems like radio carbon dating of things like stones would reveal them to be millions of years old not 11,500. Carbon dating animal or human bones makes sense. But rocks? Stones??
Back and those days the coastline was up to 200 miles + off the present shoreline……read a story about divers finding artifacts apparently from south east Asia …in caves off California….that predate these Beringia peoples by 10s of thousands of years…….hey if they can boat to Hawaii ….they can boat to California from there……Scandinavians, Egyptians,and Greeks were great seafarers also. We think today we are all so great while those from the past were ignorant ,incapable of doing anything……maybe the reverse is true…..
When people think of South Pacific Islanders they think of Moana, The Rock, and modern Hawaiians. But they are mostly the result of depopulation from Europeans and later East Asian movements to work plantations. The Pacific islanders who reached America would have looked like Papua New Guineans, Andaman Islanders or other Melanesians.
Luckily we have genetics to discount your fairy tales. Yes there Africans and African descendants who do work in biology and genetics.
@@macarde10 You can't be condescending and uniformed at the same. Papua New Guinea is home to basal B4 mother lineage. As a consequence Papua New Guinea hs the largest diversity of B lineages in the World. This means that Papua New Guinea, was for the most part, the launch off point for the Pacific Islands to be populated. B4 populated the pacific Islands all the way to Rapa Nui. In America, B2 is mostly confined to the Pacific coast of Central and South America. The second and probably the most important evidence are cranial studies of ancient Americans. Walter Neves did a study comparing 81 skulls from Central, South, and North America against a world sample of 1200 skulls of humans around the world making it the largest study of its kind of the New World. He found that the first Americans were "strikingly dissimilar" (yes, those were his actual words.) from modern East Asians/Native Americans and that instead they resembled Australians, Melanesians, and Sub-Saharan Africans (yes, the paper explicitly said Sub-Saharan Africans). PBS did a documentary about where they interviewed the man who reconstructed Luzia woman's face from her remains and said she was a negro.
Cornelius Johnson and yet the dna isn’t. I’m aware of Walter, his publications regarding luzia date to before the genetic studies. I see you conveniently left that out.
Conveniently leaving out that which negates your whimsical dream, doesn’t add to its legitimacy
@@macarde10 yeah imma need you to re read my post because I addressed DNA directly
Cornelius Johnson post your sources. Don’t just spout off claims that seem to be ignored by academics let’s see what you are basing your dreams off of. Especially since your now claiming a much earlier settling of eastern Polynesia, and by the austromelanesians.
WHy the stupid background music?
I thought maybe there was a zeppelin that took them from one side to the other. Oh wait sorry that was in WOW
Worth noting: archeologists now believe paleolithic Asians were seafaring well within the earliest windows of time when people could have jumped from Beringia to coastal north America: evidence points to paleolithic arrival by sea to the Ryuku islands approx. 35k-30k bp.
No. They migrated from Asia.
@@divergentintegral3475 Where in my comments do I say they did not migrate from Asia?
They could have island hopped the Aleutian Islands.
I thought stone could not be carbon dated.
uhh so who has to do this for school?
No boat invented about before 5000bc
Russia and North America used to be connected by a land bridge. I say the WALKED...