The settlement of america and Australia and the pacific islands are some of the most compelling aspects of humanity's journey and it makes me sad most ppl don't care or understand it....
@@jaylos3094 Seriously? Here???? I thought this was a happy place! Human nature is to explore, and to colonize. Human curiosity, or their desperation, at times, drives them to look for new lands. Greedy people existed, as well as scientists, and people looking for opportunities. Like today. These people will take aspects of the culture of others that are beneficial, drop those that are not beneficial, and they promulgate their own culture all the while...they take the things others created, mate with their women, and vice versa. These groups mix into a new sort of society, an amagulmation of both cultures, then the strongest of this group survive...It's the few cruel people who have ended up in positions of power, who give a bad name to colonists of all kinds...Unless they are flooding into a rich country, pillaging, and destroying it in the process. Giving NOTHING, and only taking from the land they are invading, their very first action in this rich country is breaking the law...THEN, it's probably ok with you to be a, "squatter". Am I right?
You know your stuff! I'm Mexican Native, and we r also the ppl from the Pacific. We r related genetically with all the Pacific ppl, including the Aboriginals of Australia!
I agree, I want to explore these places so much! Last year visited Tahiti, they have a magnificent Museum of French Polynesia with wonderful screens showing the development of Polynesia using the tracing of ancient DNA. Plus the wonder of a boat without a single nail or metal tool. The textiles were superb.
Been waiting for this. I don't really know what the impetus is, but scientists/universities are gathering more and more evidence/analysis of peoples in the Americas. (How recent is the isotope analysis of diet/teeth?) This channel is on the forefront, and I love it.
As an ex-archaeologist I’m really excited by how much difference gentics is making to our understanding of history. Glad to see people like yourself highlighting that.
The finding of that ancestral Native American DNA near Lake Baikal is really fascinating, partly because there’s linguistic evidence that the Yeniseian people of Siberia are related to the various Na Dené groups in North America, and because Lake Baikal flows into the Yenisei River which these people are named after (though they don’t call themselves that).
To be fair, that DNA at Lake Baikal is a little iffy because it dates to a much later time. You have to be willing to accept that the same people were in that area for thousands of years which may not be true.
Did you know that one of the Montana Native American tribes speak about the same language as the Russians.. I had a Native am. Friend who traveled to Russia & He could converse with the Russians & visa versa. Most of their language was the same he said. 😊
@benwilson6145 Yep, don't forget about the Viking Ships. Also, there was an archeology find in the Northwest. It was mostly white people with a few blacks,, they said it was one of the oldest bones ever found to date.
Fascinating to hear more information about this. It's great to hear updates on things we've already learned as sometimes it can give more context and understanding as to what happen.
You can't discover something that is already there and already has a name. Another European enslavement of the indigenous people in the name of colonization and larceny.
I never heard so in depth about the Beringian burials you mentioned. Thank you for sharing. The fact that the sea level changed so much make this so dang difficult to find out about! And awesome sharing that evidence about the dog DNA!!! That was very valuable as evidence of dispersal routes!
Live a while in arctic conditions and your whole understanding of survival requirements changes. Seasonal routes open and close as the weather changes. And humans could and can travel fairly great distances by foot or water in short periods of time. Travel over ice, over ice sheets, over mountains and over glaciers combined with water travel removes traditional “restricted routes”. Humans are curious animals, always in search of different and better conditions of living. We do our ancestors a disservice when we underestimate how populations interacted with their environment and overestimate the barriers to their movements. They did not need a land bridge when they knew perfectly well how to travel and survive on winter ice and open coastal waters.
Here! Here! Much disservice. My appreciation and reverence to all of our ancestors. I was pleasantly surprised to find in my ancestry DNA from Alutes. Never would have thought or known, being that I am Danish/Irish. The Alutean islands are as far as you can get from Denmark/Ireland.🔥
@@danielnielsen1977. You are Danish and you are surprised? So next thing you are going to tell everyone is that the vikings didn't happen! Never mind that during and after the middle ages Danish merchants and sailors travel all over the world!
Excellent. "Don't completely understand ..." is a brilliant understatement. Just recently, a paper was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that forecloses on the idea that the "ice-free corridor" could have been an entry route to the lower latitudes. The authors employed cosmogenic isotopes on surface rocks from the "ice free corridor" to argue that the IFC did not open until less than 14,000 BP. That reduces the possible route(s) to one (or possibly two). The IFC may still have been how the concept of fluting projectile points reached Alaska from the continent south of the Laurentide and Cordilleran ice sheets. One observation about the original dates attributed to White Sands and the hypothetical "failure" to account for the freshwater (not marine) reservoir effect is that the effect is generally considered during the dating work. The effect for the White Sands footprints would be the "fresh water" reservoir effect, if there was one, would require a source of "fossil" carbon, which the park environment doesn't offer. The sands are gypsum, a sulphate mineral, with no carbon in it. So, any local plants would be employing atmospheric C02 for photosynthesis. The original study considered the possibility of a "hard water" effect and concluded it was unlikely.
What resources would have been available within the ice free corridor? It had been under ice for so long that there would have been no, or effectively no, plant life. Without plants there wouldn’t have been animals. It’s a looooong way from Alaska to Montana, especially on foot. How would humans have survived such a journey?
There were people coming across the Atlantic Ocean more than a few thousand years ago, but they did not leave the kinds of evidence that Archaeologists anticipate they would find. I have to believe that a rigidly structured society was formed which worked against DNA evidence of their presence remaining today. Kind of like looking for Roman and Carthaginian DNA in modern British people.
Love your videos man keep it up. My family and I are of Zapotec Peoples from Oaxaca Mexico, and our village is by the mountains isolated from Civilization. This is one of the main reasons our people still practice their Native Customs such as their language, food, etc. Since migrating to the States, people have mistaken us for being from the Philippines, Japanese, and in some cases Polynesian.
It is beautiful to be direct from our ancestors and to have their features and that the mother languages of Anawak and their customs and traditions have not yet been lost, that many traditions and customs have been lost that we have to rescue.
I take it that you discard the ' information ' that has been circulating, that the original Americans were god-like tall blonde blue eyed people: Or that they were people who came directly from Sub-Saharan Africa. 🤭 😂
I really like your videos. You are one of the few channels that can keep my undivided attention. It`s nice that you always include other theories with pros and cons too. Greetings from germany!
I wish I'd had this available when I was teaching at one of the Universities of California (retired in `08). This would have been required viewing. This is the best, most comprehensive and inclusive (meaning controversies included) treatment of the subject yet done! If you'd been one of my students, I'd have hoped you'd continue your studies, and eventually become a professor in this field. Very well done!!
Thank you so much! I actually seriously considered going that route back when I was in undergrad but by the time I finished, I was burned out on higher education and never went back to school. This channel helps scratch that itch though.
@djschumacher8012 that discovery in the White Sands monument of human footprints in mud, cross-dated to ~24,000BCE really set the community on their ear! I don't know what route they took to get here, but it appears that "ice free" corridor may not be correct. Migration along the coastlines would seem the only option, unless the seas were frozen as well. I'm unaware of any geologic evidence to support pack ice there, however.
I really appreciate how you went through the different hypotheses and controversies. It's great to see you revisiting topics based on new evidence and data. Nicely done!
What I want to know is, how did the indigenous peoples of North America survive without vast stroads paved on either side by chain restaurants and outlets? How did they make it without car centric infrastructure?
Back then there were still large herds of big macs roaming the prairies. Those majestic beasts provided the plainsdwellers with much of what they needed.
Great Video. Always Learn from and enjoy your video essays. Stefen Milo has done some videos interviewing the individuals that published some of the papers you referenced , he did great as well. Always get excited when I see a new video from you, Thanks :)
Really glad to see you revisiting your old videos. Makes me excited for the redo's of mayan and amazonian content in a decade or so once lidar and stuff has completely overturned our previous picture :P
We don't have a lot of information, but if there's one thing that can be said with a pretty reasonable amount of certainty, it's that the humans that crossed into America lived through stories that would blow all of our minds today. Oh, man. "If bones could talk..."
It’s so interesting how complex the expansion and migration of the human species is across the world, unlike what we are told Also, have you done a video on non-Amazonian non-Andean civilization in South America yet? I feel like they are extremly under covered and I wish I can find more easily accessible information about them. Especially regions like la plata or the Brazilian highlands, but idk if there’s even enough information for a video
@@AncientAmericas ah, aww 😔 It’s kinda sad how we have so little information about natives in later Spanish conquest region, for half of South America I can’t even find their names
What we are told lags behind discovery. And the alt history establishment (purveyors of fine woo like Ancient Aliens and Atlantis) don’t make it easier. We are actually quite lucky that channels like Ancient Americas are possible, both in informing us of developments in archaeological studies and in countering the batshit woowoo theories propounded by the pseudoscience industrial complex and sucked up by the mentally lazy, the mentally incapacitated, and the mentally ill.
i was at the bookstore last week and was debating between Sapians and Origins since ive been meaning to read both and lets just say im gonna have to go back and buy the one i didnt get :(
I am very much someone who has a great interest in history of any kind, and I consider myself to have a naturally inquisitive nature even at almost 41 lol. One of my eternal headaches when watching history shows is how often they create more questions by being too focused on the general subject. Given the complexity of what you covered especially in terms of the shifting ice shelf etc I thought the extra steps you took like explaining how the earth can rise when ice melts away was a thing of beauty and I thank you for it. So glad I stumbled upon your channel tonight !!
I really appreciate all the effort you placed into this and the humility and integrity it took and takes to revisit old material of yours and update it.
Thank your for yiur hard work to summarize such a complex body of academic work. Its been hard to put the peices together from a bunch of one-off articles and videos, so an overview is very welcome. Bravo.
Love this channel. Thanks for all your hard work!! What a time to be alive (if you're an ancient history buff), sooo many new findings which are changing so much previous assumptions!
Herto man is proof that modern humans (Homo sapiens) lived in Africa at least 160,000 years ago. And they seem to have stayed there for a long time. Though it is unclear when some modern humans first left Africa
Watching for the second time, watched the first one a few times too, the settlement of the Americas is one of the most fascinating topics in archeology to me, i look forward to a few years in the future when you make a new one :)
I love that you remake, or rather, re-visit topics when more information comes to light. Personally, I'd like it if the discipline would get more comfortable leaving unknowns as just that. If there is a lot of evidence for a certain thing at, say 10,000 years ago, and a lot of evidence for something else around 8,000 years ago, but how things got from A to B is unclear, don't rush forward with wild guesses! It's okay to say we think B followed directly from A but we don't yet know how. BTW, I finished my military career not far from Calico, but I never made it out there for a visit. Thank you for your efforts and stay safe.
I thank you for these videos. I'm a volunteer guide in the Museo de América in Madrid, Spain. This information helps to make the explanations more revealing and colorful.
Rather recently, DNA technology has allowed scientists to discover that most Europeans have Neanderthal DNA. Immediately there was a shift on how Neanderthals are portrayed. Now instead of grunting bruits they're portrayed more human like and even pretty good looking as well. Of course most of these scientists are of European origin. 🤭
@@JustJoe326The most fascinating thing for me about the Neanderthal DNA contributing to European descendants genes are the psyquiatric disorders inherited due to Neanderthal lonely lifestyles LOL.
Even if you're not an "expert," as you say, these videos are still a great entry to any topic. This channel has definitely helped when I am researching topics for writing for my college classes. I have made use of your reference lists in my explorations. I check out every new video from this channel now as they come out.
I for one appreciate maintaining updated information and discoveries for us… this particular topic is evolving FAST and new discoveries are being made left and right with all of the new technologies available. I get annoyed watching outdated videos so knowing the channel isn’t afraid to edit or upload a new video to let us know the latest science and scuttlebutt.
I appreciate that you try keep the difference between fact and interpretation, also that you review your vision when warranted by new evidence. Well done.
Along with Jennifer Raff's Origins book, David Reich's book, Who We are and How We Got Here, has a very lengthy chapter on the Americas that is worth understanding.
Thanks for the info, I’ve read and watched other videos about some of this but you had some good insight and got to the point quickly-as well as citing sources. Great video.
Yes! It is so gratifying to hear that the sea coast is finally being considered seriously as the access for entry to the Amrericas. With the coast line open before them, with animals unsuspecting and no other humans, it would have been a hunter's paradise.
Anyone who has any training or understanding of archaeology/paleontology who has worked construction and large excavations for any amount of time can tell you without blinking that "anomalies and abnormal" finds aren't abnormal at all. They probably won't give you specifics because they don't want to be fired and black balled from the industry and that will certainly happen. Indeed they're the norm once you go below the 10 to 15k strata. A job I was on fairly recently, archaeologists quit monitoring the dig areas past about 17k because "nobody was here then". They were wrong, but it doesn't fit the narrative and nobody wants to shut a site down, cause a bunch of controversy, be accused of hoaxes, and ultimately it lead to nothing coming out officially. Fire pits and such are commonly found really deep down there and they're just ignored because they can't exist. It's laughable but incredibly sad.
1. Just like in the late 1800s the Smithsonian did away allegedly the skeletons of giants because it would destroy the narrative; 2. White supremacist types on some far right platforms such as Gab put posts allegedly that white people were in the Americas before native Americans arrived.
@@derkanal1908 Which field? I'm an industrial construction consultant and quality assurance specialist. I work with the excavation contractors, the archaeologists, paleos, environmentalists, etc to ensure that codes and regulations are enforced and when finds are made I am liaison between the varied disciplines, contractors, and engineering. I've seen my share of shenanigans.
Basically ancient humanity is smarter and more ingenious than people give them credit for. As someone who's hobby is historical technology re-creation, I absolutely buy it.
The coastal migration theory sounds a lot like the first settlement of Norway, where they likely followed seals northward on the recently deglaciated outer coasts!! Though that happened a lot later, around 9500 BCE. Interesting similarity :)
The algorithm found your channel for me. This was a wonderfully well done production. I learned so much from this. I’m old so it’s hard for old people learn new stuff. lol You did a great job!! I’ve subscribed and look forward to watching some of your other productions. Your hard work is appreciated. Thank you.
very interesting video, as always. Fun fact, just two days ago in Chubut, Argentina (so East coast of patagonia) were found the oldest humans bones in Patagonia (+10,5k years).
Funny that you mentioned Eske. Last week NOVA did a special on him and ancient DNA. Essentially, Eske and his colleagues found DNA from 2.5 million years ago - not human, but everything else. They also showed that the arctic as we know it was significantly hotter than it is today. Consequently, the Beringia migration theories could easily have happened well before the LGM. Also, because the sea levels were about 400-500ft lower back then, it was also possible to migrate to North America from Europe/Iceland/Greenland via boat. If I would have watched the whole video before typing, I would have heard your explanation on these points :) well done man.
There is something so interesting about this! Look around where you are right now, think about 10,000yrs ago & someone standing in the same spot you are, wondering what they saw
Wild shot in the dark anybody else psyched this dropped the same day almost at new gutsick gibbon? No? Not even remotely? Thanks anyway, AA, you're the best!
Exactly. The climate has always been changing. Just because its been relatively stable for the last few hundred years doesn't mean it did change prior. There were glaciers over Canada and half the US not long ago, and before that it was tropical. It's always been changing. Humans will adapt. We always have. Currently man lives in the hottest, coldest, wettest, driest places on earth. Many will have to move, but we will adapt.
The climate has always changed. But not due to human action. That is happening now, and is down to good 'ol us. Aren't we clever? We are destroying the climate all by ourselves!
@@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg IF the climate is changing, there is no way in hell that anyone could prove that it is caused by burning fossil fuels. Its always been changing and always will, whether we are here or not.
BC archaeologists have unearthed a site off the coast that gives credence to the ocean migration route. Showing humans moving along the coast deep in the middle of the ice age.
Would you consider ever doing a part 2 to this video where you go into all the groups who dispute the official science and claim to have precolonial connections to Natives from the Americas? E.g. Mormons who claim a connection to Mesoamerica through the lost tribes of Israel; Egyptians who claim to have founded the Mayan and Incan civilizations; people of African descent who claim the Olmecs were actually Black; Europeans who claim Native civilizations came from Atlantis. It seems like the official science and archeology is being drowned out by these louder groups online so it might be interesting to discuss. Many Natives I know say they’ve seen an uptick in New Age and conspiracy tourism from these people, and some have gone so far as to pour money to take control of important sites and rewrite history for their benefit.
Funny you say that, because I was briefly planning a similar episode but put it on the back burner to do this very episode. Maybe I'll come back to it someday.
Yeaaaaah. Way to go Homespace! Now if only people could admit that humans were on this continent WAY, WAY EARLIER than it was acknowledged just a very few years ago. People were here a very long time ago! A VERY LONG TIME AGO! Not just 13000 years, but closer to thirty thousand years ago.
Yes, but those people may have not been able to survive long enough to contribute to the genetic evidence currently studied. There may have been numerous small bands that got here early on, but were not viable enough to increase population much.
I’m a newer subscriber (been watching for a few months) and this was such a fascinating video to watch! I really appreciate that you take the time to cover new revised information, and the controversies. I’m from Oregon, and this research has had a lot of focus from U of O and OSU
A coastal migration would certainly explain the rapid spread of people from Beringia to what is now Chile. Agreed that a tragedy of rising sea levels is that we don't know what settlements were lost under the waves.
"It must have been an amazing time to be alive." Not if you were a Steller's Sea Cow, flightless marine duck, mammoth, mastodon, gomphothere, giant ground sloth, glyptodont, giant beaver, giant camel, giant armoured tortoise, giant armadillo, macrauchenia, toxodon or other member of the American megafauna.
@@Mikell-h2c It surely was for people who had neither modern technology nor antibiotics. They were just trying to have enough surviving children to take care of them in an old age that was in the 40's or 50's if they were lucky. When they got to a new land with large, slowly-reproducing animals who did not even recognize people at first as predators, it was easy meat. The concern was to get food for the next few days. Once the game was gone in one area, nomadic bands moved on. Eventually, it was gone and hunted out in all areas. Humans don't tend to think of the environment until they have devastated the flora and fauna, and felt the impact of that devastation. The Royal Hunt of the Sun was the mark of the civilized Incas, not their primitive ancestors who first came to the Americas.
I appreciate your broader brush looking at all evidence. Many academics get tunnel vision as their reputation is dependent on their version of events. Nice to have all the possibilities presented.
One of the things that in my mind helps the boat theory for the coastal migration is how native Americans in the Northwest anyway were very boat proficient for fishing and travel for long distances.
I get a STRONG sense of a very grudging acceptance of the newer older dates of human settlement of the Americas from this video ;) Human settlement of North and South America is VERY complex, and more evidence is emerging that humans and possibly our relatives have been in the Americas for 100's of *thousands* of years. The butchered mammoth bones in california have been exhaustively tested along with the site, and are *130,000* years old. There are genetic echoes of Australian aboriginal DNA in several South American tribes, hinting at a likely early crossing of the Pacific.
Also. The ceruti mastodon site was addressed in the video and I think pretty effectively shown to be a really weak hook to use to hold up a claim as big as "the Americas were inhabited by archaic human species".
No one doubts the age of the cerutti mastadon site. The dates on that site are solid and not disputed. The dispute is whether or not humans killed and butchered the mastadons there.
@@AncientAmericastrue but (as far as I understand it) the counter arguments as to the breakages and placements of the bones happening naturally are also pretty iffy, I get that it’s the responsibility of the ones trying to prove it to give evidence, but that’s doesn’t mean we can just ignore that the evidence to the counter is also (if not more) very difficult to credit
I'd just like to throw out there that 99% of "archeology" in the United States is done by construction workers who have a MASSIVE incentive NOT to find anything. Multi-billion dollar developmental properties aren't gonna be stopped by much. I respect what you do (honestly I'm a little jealous) so keep it up :)
11/10 for local libraries. Mine does inter-library lines with a continent-wide network plus access to academic materials & digital collection. Fantastic.
In light of White Sands, we need to start looking in LGM strata up rivers that were near the southern end of the Cordilleran ice sheet -- like the Chehalis, Willapa, and obviously rhe Columbia. The Portland Basin should get some more attention -- although the glacial damn burst floods crashed hard into there, and might have buried evidence under a lot of gravels.
The Willapa area probably isn't an option either due to how rapidly the landscape changes here. Maybe you'd find stuff in the mountains, but everything else is probably under dozens of feet of marine mud or in the ocean.
Yes, perhaps best chance of finding evidence could be south along the coast into Oregon, and up rivers where they would have prospected for conchoidal fracture material for replenishing tools. High points in the coastal mountains may have been tundra, modified a bit by warmer marine influence to make foot travel over the ridges, past Triangle lake, into the Willamette valley fairly easily. They would probably be looking for potential new mating possibilities too, to be hormonal-driven eastward, yet not finding other bands already there to find?
@@qui-gonjay2944- There are not solid dates that early on the East Coast. And if there were, there should be considerably _earlier_ dates on the West Coast. We do have a solid date in eastern Oregon, at Rimrock Draw, at 18kya.
@@cacogenicist that’s simply untrue. Cactus Hill, Parsons Island, Miles Point all have secure older dates. Fact is you like to apply different scrutiny to sites that don’t fit you model.
The settlement of america and Australia and the pacific islands are some of the most compelling aspects of humanity's journey and it makes me sad most ppl don't care or understand it....
Man’s search for open spaces when we were hunter gatherers.
Illegally squatting you mean.
@@jaylos3094 Seriously? Here???? I thought this was a happy place!
Human nature is to explore, and to colonize. Human curiosity, or their desperation, at times, drives them to look for new lands. Greedy people existed, as well as scientists, and people looking for opportunities. Like today. These people will take aspects of the culture of others that are beneficial, drop those that are not beneficial, and they promulgate their own culture all the while...they take the things others created, mate with their women, and vice versa. These groups mix into a new sort of society, an amagulmation of both cultures, then the strongest of this group survive...It's the few cruel people who have ended up in positions of power, who give a bad name to colonists of all kinds...Unless they are flooding into a rich country, pillaging, and destroying it in the process. Giving NOTHING, and only taking from the land they are invading, their very first action in this rich country is breaking the law...THEN, it's probably ok with you to be a, "squatter". Am I right?
You know your stuff! I'm Mexican Native, and we r also the ppl from the Pacific. We r related genetically with all the Pacific ppl, including the Aboriginals of Australia!
I agree, I want to explore these places so much! Last year visited Tahiti, they have a magnificent Museum of French Polynesia with wonderful screens showing the development of Polynesia using the tracing of ancient DNA. Plus the wonder of a boat without a single nail or metal tool. The textiles were superb.
I don’t care that this dropped at 12am, I am watching it in full.
Me too
2am here, and do I care? Nope!
Amen!
12:doesnt matter still watching as well
Me too!
You had me at "I thought I knew what was talking about back then and I actually did, but a lot has changed since then"
Today's lesson is: always be willing to re-evaluate your past work.
Been waiting for this. I don't really know what the impetus is, but scientists/universities are gathering more and more evidence/analysis of peoples in the Americas. (How recent is the isotope analysis of diet/teeth?) This channel is on the forefront, and I love it.
As an ex-archaeologist I’m really excited by how much difference gentics is making to our understanding of history. Glad to see people like yourself highlighting that.
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Beringian DNA isn't in anyone?
Ancient Americas quickly becoming my favorite YT channel
Thank you!
The finding of that ancestral Native American DNA near Lake Baikal is really fascinating, partly because there’s linguistic evidence that the Yeniseian people of Siberia are related to the various Na Dené groups in North America, and because Lake Baikal flows into the Yenisei River which these people are named after (though they don’t call themselves that).
To be fair, that DNA at Lake Baikal is a little iffy because it dates to a much later time. You have to be willing to accept that the same people were in that area for thousands of years which may not be true.
It's still so interesting. Makes a person want to know more
Did you know that one of the Montana Native American tribes speak about the same language as the Russians.. I had a Native am. Friend who traveled to Russia & He could converse with the Russians & visa versa. Most of their language was the same he said. 😊
There were people in the "Americas" before people came from Siberia
@benwilson6145 Yep, don't forget about the Viking Ships. Also, there was an archeology find in the Northwest. It was mostly white people with a few blacks,, they said it was one of the oldest bones ever found to date.
Fascinating to hear more information about this. It's great to hear updates on things we've already learned as sometimes it can give more context and understanding as to what happen.
Why does your comment say two days ago when the video says it dropped five hours ago?
@forcelightningcable9639 right like I'm scratching my head about that 😂
@@characterblub2.0 the matrix has cracked. 🐈⬛🐈⬛
@@forcelightningcable9639 Video is available a week early though Patreon.
You can't discover something that is already there and already has a name. Another European enslavement of the indigenous people in the name of colonization and larceny.
A refreshing and measured analysis of the work of many archaeologists in the Americas.
"Now I'm going to address some controversies and 'alternate' theories." Ah yes, the Good Part! :D
I never heard so in depth about the Beringian burials you mentioned. Thank you for sharing. The fact that the sea level changed so much make this so dang difficult to find out about!
And awesome sharing that evidence about the dog DNA!!! That was very valuable as evidence of dispersal routes!
Live a while in arctic conditions and your whole understanding of survival requirements changes. Seasonal routes open and close as the weather changes. And humans could and can travel fairly great distances by foot or water in short periods of time. Travel over ice, over ice sheets, over mountains and over glaciers combined with water travel removes traditional “restricted routes”. Humans are curious animals, always in search of different and better conditions of living. We do our ancestors a disservice when we underestimate how populations interacted with their environment and overestimate the barriers to their movements. They did not need a land bridge when they knew perfectly well how to travel and survive on winter ice and open coastal waters.
Here! Here! Much disservice. My appreciation and reverence to all of our ancestors. I was pleasantly surprised to find in my ancestry DNA from Alutes.
Never would have thought or known, being that I am Danish/Irish. The Alutean islands are as far as you can get from Denmark/Ireland.🔥
@@danielnielsen1977. You are Danish and you are surprised? So next thing you are going to tell everyone is that the vikings didn't happen!
Never mind that during and after the middle ages Danish merchants and sailors travel all over the world!
@@danielnielsen1977 Not so far if you travel due north.
5:00 some bros got into a fist fight. Knocked some teeth, thus giving us vital evidence. Thanks my two dudes.
Lmao yeah! I thought the same thing, bless those little guys
That pretty much destroys my “waylaid tooth fairy” hypothesis.
@@MarcosElMalo2 the fairy went to gather the teeth but knew itd be important to history somehow
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@@charlieadams8115 thanks i think i dropped that somewhere on the way here.
Excellent. "Don't completely understand ..." is a brilliant understatement. Just recently, a paper was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that forecloses on the idea that the "ice-free corridor" could have been an entry route to the lower latitudes. The authors employed cosmogenic isotopes on surface rocks from the "ice free corridor" to argue that the IFC did not open until less than 14,000 BP. That reduces the possible route(s) to one (or possibly two). The IFC may still have been how the concept of fluting projectile points reached Alaska from the continent south of the Laurentide and Cordilleran ice sheets.
One observation about the original dates attributed to White Sands and the hypothetical "failure" to account for the freshwater (not marine) reservoir effect is that the effect is generally considered during the dating work. The effect for the White Sands footprints would be the "fresh water" reservoir effect, if there was one, would require a source of "fossil" carbon, which the park environment doesn't offer. The sands are gypsum, a sulphate mineral, with no carbon in it. So, any local plants would be employing atmospheric C02 for photosynthesis. The original study considered the possibility of a "hard water" effect and concluded it was unlikely.
Thank you!
What resources would have been available within the ice free corridor? It had been under ice for so long that there would have been no, or effectively no, plant life. Without plants there wouldn’t have been animals. It’s a looooong way from Alaska to Montana, especially on foot. How would humans have survived such a journey?
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There were people coming across the Atlantic Ocean more than a few thousand years ago, but they did not leave the kinds of evidence that Archaeologists anticipate they would find. I have to believe that a rigidly structured society was formed which worked against DNA evidence of their presence remaining today. Kind of like looking for Roman and Carthaginian DNA in modern British people.
Love your videos man keep it up. My family and I are of Zapotec Peoples from Oaxaca Mexico, and our village is by the mountains isolated from Civilization. This is one of the main reasons our people still practice their Native Customs such as their language, food, etc. Since migrating to the States, people have mistaken us for being from the Philippines, Japanese, and in some cases Polynesian.
I am California Miwok and my mother looked so Asian, some Church people or Salesmen at our door asked my mother if she spoke English.
Thank you!
It is beautiful to be direct from our ancestors and to have their features and that the mother languages of Anawak and their customs and traditions have not yet been lost, that many traditions and customs have been lost that we have to rescue.
That's funny, I have a friend who is Korean/Caucasian mix who often gets mistaken for Native American.
I take it that you discard the ' information ' that has been circulating, that the original Americans were god-like tall blonde blue eyed people: Or that they were people who came directly from Sub-Saharan Africa. 🤭 😂
I really like your videos. You are one of the few channels that can keep my undivided attention.
It`s nice that you always include other theories with pros and cons too.
Greetings from germany!
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This is one of the top 9 channels on UA-cam. Thanks a bunch Big Dog!
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I wish I'd had this available when I was teaching at one of the Universities of California (retired in `08). This would have been required viewing. This is the best, most comprehensive and inclusive (meaning controversies included) treatment of the subject yet done! If you'd been one of my students, I'd have hoped you'd continue your studies, and eventually become a professor in this field. Very well done!!
Thank you so much! I actually seriously considered going that route back when I was in undergrad but by the time I finished, I was burned out on higher education and never went back to school. This channel helps scratch that itch though.
@djschumacher8012 that discovery in the White Sands monument of human footprints in mud, cross-dated to ~24,000BCE really set the community on their ear! I don't know what route they took to get here, but it appears that "ice free" corridor may not be correct. Migration along the coastlines would seem the only option, unless the seas were frozen as well. I'm unaware of any geologic evidence to support pack ice there, however.
I really appreciate how you went through the different hypotheses and controversies. It's great to see you revisiting topics based on new evidence and data. Nicely done!
Thank you so much!
This is probably my favorite video of yours. Super interesting topic covered in a really responsible way
Thank you!
What I want to know is, how did the indigenous peoples of North America survive without vast stroads paved on either side by chain restaurants and outlets? How did they make it without car centric infrastructure?
Canoes, beef jerky and many complicated trails existed some still exist and are in use under roads
All that has been covered by the rising sea levels
They had those, actually, but unfortunately they were on the central beringian plain
Back then there were still large herds of big macs roaming the prairies. Those majestic beasts provided the plainsdwellers with much of what they needed.
When I was a kid, my mom used to take me to get salmon burgers from McDorset's. I remember those restaurants fondly, so sad to see them go.
Great Video. Always Learn from and enjoy your video essays. Stefen Milo has done some videos interviewing the individuals that published some of the papers you referenced , he did great as well. Always get excited when I see a new video from you, Thanks :)
Thank you! Yes, he dropped those episodes when I was in the thick of my research for this episode so they were very well timed.
Please can you link the video 🥺
Really glad to see you revisiting your old videos. Makes me excited for the redo's of mayan and amazonian content in a decade or so once lidar and stuff has completely overturned our previous picture :P
YESSSS I've been waiting for this update for so long, thank you!
Ta-da!
Like thousands and thousands of years!
We don't have a lot of information, but if there's one thing that can be said with a pretty reasonable amount of certainty, it's that the humans that crossed into America lived through stories that would blow all of our minds today. Oh, man. "If bones could talk..."
It’s so interesting how complex the expansion and migration of the human species is across the world, unlike what we are told
Also, have you done a video on non-Amazonian non-Andean civilization in South America yet? I feel like they are extremly under covered and I wish I can find more easily accessible information about them. Especially regions like la plata or the Brazilian highlands, but idk if there’s even enough information for a video
Thank you! Unfortunately, the only South American topics I have are either Andean or Amazonian cultures.
@@AncientAmericas ah, aww 😔
It’s kinda sad how we have so little information about natives in later Spanish conquest region, for half of South America I can’t even find their names
What we are told lags behind discovery. And the alt history establishment (purveyors of fine woo like Ancient Aliens and Atlantis) don’t make it easier.
We are actually quite lucky that channels like Ancient Americas are possible, both in informing us of developments in archaeological studies and in countering the batshit woowoo theories propounded by the pseudoscience industrial complex and sucked up by the mentally lazy, the mentally incapacitated, and the mentally ill.
thanks as always for your presentations, and your honesty in reference to the gaps in our knowledge!
Excellent balanced discussion
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Loved this video and you also inspired me to grab Origin from my online library and listen to it as an audiobook. Highly recommended!
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i was at the bookstore last week and was debating between Sapians and Origins since ive been meaning to read both and lets just say im gonna have to go back and buy the one i didnt get :(
@@samuelripa-ol1ry never read sapiens but I've heard good stuff about it.
That's an amazing video! And don't apologize for revisiting it, it's great to see new developments. I'd love to see yet another one in a few years!
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I am very much someone who has a great interest in history of any kind, and I consider myself to have a naturally inquisitive nature even at almost 41 lol. One of my eternal headaches when watching history shows is how often they create more questions by being too focused on the general subject. Given the complexity of what you covered especially in terms of the shifting ice shelf etc I thought the extra steps you took like explaining how the earth can rise when ice melts away was a thing of beauty and I thank you for it. So glad I stumbled upon your channel tonight !!
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I really appreciate all the effort you placed into this and the humility and integrity it took and takes to revisit old material of yours and update it.
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Not only an informative video, but no background music! Thank you!
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Thank your for yiur hard work to summarize such a complex body of academic work. Its been hard to put the peices together from a bunch of one-off articles and videos, so an overview is very welcome. Bravo.
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Love this channel. Thanks for all your hard work!! What a time to be alive (if you're an ancient history buff), sooo many new findings which are changing so much previous assumptions!
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your advice on feeding curiosity is so well put. I truly enjoy your work,from the land of the Ancient peoples of Australia ❤
Your conclusion deserves a standing ovation and a H-- YES!
Herto man is proof that modern humans (Homo sapiens) lived in Africa at least 160,000 years ago. And they seem to have stayed there for a long time. Though it is unclear when some modern humans first left Africa
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Watching for the second time, watched the first one a few times too, the settlement of the Americas is one of the most fascinating topics in archeology to me, i look forward to a few years in the future when you make a new one :)
I love that you remake, or rather, re-visit topics when more information comes to light. Personally, I'd like it if the discipline would get more comfortable leaving unknowns as just that. If there is a lot of evidence for a certain thing at, say 10,000 years ago, and a lot of evidence for something else around 8,000 years ago, but how things got from A to B is unclear, don't rush forward with wild guesses! It's okay to say we think B followed directly from A but we don't yet know how.
BTW, I finished my military career not far from Calico, but I never made it out there for a visit.
Thank you for your efforts and stay safe.
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I thank you for these videos. I'm a volunteer guide in the Museo de América in Madrid, Spain. This information helps to make the explanations more revealing and colorful.
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I will say that the grunting cavemen from the far side are quite consistent with how Gary Larson wrote and drew his modern humans
Rather recently, DNA technology has allowed scientists to discover that most Europeans have Neanderthal DNA. Immediately there was a shift on how Neanderthals are portrayed. Now instead of grunting bruits they're portrayed more human like and even pretty good looking as well. Of course most of these scientists are of European origin. 🤭
@@JustJoe326The most fascinating thing for me about the Neanderthal DNA contributing to European descendants genes are the psyquiatric disorders inherited due to Neanderthal lonely lifestyles LOL.
A fair number of Larsen’s Cavemen are wearing glasses😆
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Larson's cave men are smarter.
Even if you're not an "expert," as you say, these videos are still a great entry to any topic. This channel has definitely helped when I am researching topics for writing for my college classes. I have made use of your reference lists in my explorations. I check out every new video from this channel now as they come out.
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babe wake up, new AA vid just dropped
Let the lady sleep!
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I for one appreciate maintaining updated information and discoveries for us… this particular topic is evolving FAST and new discoveries are being made left and right with all of the new technologies available. I get annoyed watching outdated videos so knowing the channel isn’t afraid to edit or upload a new video to let us know the latest science and scuttlebutt.
Never clicked a UA-cam notification faster before this😂😂
I appreciate that you try keep the difference between fact and interpretation, also that you review your vision when warranted by new evidence. Well done.
Along with Jennifer Raff's Origins book, David Reich's book, Who We are and How We Got Here, has a very lengthy chapter on the Americas that is worth understanding.
Excellent video great information. Thank you for encouraging others to do their OWN research and not accepting everything. Great JOB!!!
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This is an amazingly fascinating episode. Thanks so very much for putting these videos together I love your work.
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Love your approach. Well done.
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every time you upload an angel gains its wings
Thanks for the info, I’ve read and watched other videos about some of this but you had some good insight and got to the point quickly-as well as citing sources. Great video.
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More likely than overland is migration via coastal boats.
Yes! It is so gratifying to hear that the sea coast is finally being considered seriously as the access for entry to the Amrericas. With the coast line open before them, with animals unsuspecting and no other humans, it would have been a hunter's paradise.
Anyone who has any training or understanding of archaeology/paleontology who has worked construction and large excavations for any amount of time can tell you without blinking that "anomalies and abnormal" finds aren't abnormal at all. They probably won't give you specifics because they don't want to be fired and black balled from the industry and that will certainly happen. Indeed they're the norm once you go below the 10 to 15k strata. A job I was on fairly recently, archaeologists quit monitoring the dig areas past about 17k because "nobody was here then". They were wrong, but it doesn't fit the narrative and nobody wants to shut a site down, cause a bunch of controversy, be accused of hoaxes, and ultimately it lead to nothing coming out officially. Fire pits and such are commonly found really deep down there and they're just ignored because they can't exist. It's laughable but incredibly sad.
That's a shame considering that there's good evidence that people were there much earlier.
1. Just like in the late 1800s the Smithsonian did away allegedly the skeletons of giants because it would destroy the narrative;
2. White supremacist types on some far right platforms such as Gab put posts allegedly that white people were in the Americas before native Americans arrived.
May I ask what your qualifications you have in the field?
@@derkanal1908 Which field? I'm an industrial construction consultant and quality assurance specialist. I work with the excavation contractors, the archaeologists, paleos, environmentalists, etc to ensure that codes and regulations are enforced and when finds are made I am liaison between the varied disciplines, contractors, and engineering. I've seen my share of shenanigans.
"Feed your curiosity in a healthy way"
I'll carry that quote with me as long as I can
Thanks for the content!
Every time I watch an upload of yours I Go To My Happy Place
Basically ancient humanity is smarter and more ingenious than people give them credit for. As someone who's hobby is historical technology re-creation, I absolutely buy it.
The coastal migration theory sounds a lot like the first settlement of Norway, where they likely followed seals northward on the recently deglaciated outer coasts!! Though that happened a lot later, around 9500 BCE. Interesting similarity :)
An endlessly fascinating topic, thank you.
The third picture you show in your intro is from my home island in SE Alaska 🤘
That was excellent! I had just watched a video about the last site you mentioned in Mexico. This is fascinating!!
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love this channel!
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The algorithm found your channel for me. This was a wonderfully well done production. I learned so much from this. I’m old so it’s hard for old people learn new stuff. lol You did a great job!! I’ve subscribed and look forward to watching some of your other productions. Your hard work is appreciated. Thank you.
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very interesting video, as always. Fun fact, just two days ago in Chubut, Argentina (so East coast of patagonia) were found the oldest humans bones in Patagonia (+10,5k years).
I didn't see that! Very interesting!
Funny that you mentioned Eske. Last week NOVA did a special on him and ancient DNA. Essentially, Eske and his colleagues found DNA from 2.5 million years ago - not human, but everything else. They also showed that the arctic as we know it was significantly hotter than it is today. Consequently, the Beringia migration theories could easily have happened well before the LGM. Also, because the sea levels were about 400-500ft lower back then, it was also possible to migrate to North America from Europe/Iceland/Greenland via boat. If I would have watched the whole video before typing, I would have heard your explanation on these points :) well done man.
Thank you! I saw that video pop up in my feed last week but I haven't gotten a chance to watch it. Eske is an awesome scientist.
Haven't even watched it I just clicked so fast SO EXCITED
There is something so interesting about this! Look around where you are right now, think about 10,000yrs ago & someone standing in the same spot you are, wondering what they saw
Another fine production. Thank you for thus.
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Closing statement saying you're not an expert and telling people to go at the sources? Way to go. Great work with the videos.
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Wild shot in the dark anybody else psyched this dropped the same day almost at new gutsick gibbon? No? Not even remotely? Thanks anyway, AA, you're the best!
I liked her topic as well
Also the same day that ArchaeoEd dropped a new episode!
Wow! Such a cool and easy to follow video! Thank you❤
Exactly. The climate has always been changing. Just because its been relatively stable for the last few hundred years doesn't mean it did change prior. There were glaciers over Canada and half the US not long ago, and before that it was tropical. It's always been changing. Humans will adapt. We always have. Currently man lives in the hottest, coldest, wettest, driest places on earth. Many will have to move, but we will adapt.
China is on our bases using Chinese weather weapons with our corrupt upper echelon to kill us
The climate has always changed. But not due to human action. That is happening now, and is down to good 'ol us. Aren't we clever? We are destroying the climate all by ourselves!
@@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg IF the climate is changing, there is no way in hell that anyone could prove that it is caused by burning fossil fuels. Its always been changing and always will, whether we are here or not.
I watched this video while filing the documentation from work at the Gault site.
What a lovely coincidence!
You get a thumbs-up just for mentioning Far Side. Long live Gary Larson!
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All the kids who grew up in the 80's and 90's stand up!
Very good to see a new video. Thanks for all your hard work.👍❤️
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Thank you for this video.
Araputi (uh-duh-pit) is the Ute word for our Grandfather Mammoth.
Most of us are going to be speechless when the truth about this topic is revealed; well, confirmed. God bless.
BC archaeologists have unearthed a site off the coast that gives credence to the ocean migration route. Showing humans moving along the coast deep in the middle of the ice age.
Thank you! I’m absolutely addicted to your videos.
Oh yeah 👍. I forgot to say, Thank you thank you, thank you ❤.
You're most welcome!
Always enjoy watching your videos.
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Would you consider ever doing a part 2 to this video where you go into all the groups who dispute the official science and claim to have precolonial connections to Natives from the Americas? E.g. Mormons who claim a connection to Mesoamerica through the lost tribes of Israel; Egyptians who claim to have founded the Mayan and Incan civilizations; people of African descent who claim the Olmecs were actually Black; Europeans who claim Native civilizations came from Atlantis. It seems like the official science and archeology is being drowned out by these louder groups online so it might be interesting to discuss. Many Natives I know say they’ve seen an uptick in New Age and conspiracy tourism from these people, and some have gone so far as to pour money to take control of important sites and rewrite history for their benefit.
Funny you say that, because I was briefly planning a similar episode but put it on the back burner to do this very episode. Maybe I'll come back to it someday.
Thank you for making such awesome and digestable content!
Yeaaaaah. Way to go Homespace! Now if only people could admit that humans were on this continent WAY, WAY EARLIER than it was acknowledged just a very few years ago. People were here a very long time ago! A VERY LONG TIME AGO! Not just 13000 years, but closer to thirty thousand years ago.
Amen!
White sands is 21 kya not 30.
Yes, but those people may have not been able to survive long enough to contribute to the genetic evidence currently studied. There may have been numerous small bands that got here early on, but were not viable enough to increase population much.
I’m a newer subscriber (been watching for a few months) and this was such a fascinating video to watch! I really appreciate that you take the time to cover new revised information, and the controversies. I’m from Oregon, and this research has had a lot of focus from U of O and OSU
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I wonder how long until this video will get outdated, but such is making topics surrounding the study of the human past.
Knowing my luck, I'd say next month.
That's what real science ought to be.@@AncientAmericas
14:00 hrs Thursday jan 08 24 you really have me in the front row of the classroom ! Badgersden,"thank you teacher" !
Made my morning joint and booted this fire video up 🔥
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A coastal migration would certainly explain the rapid spread of people from Beringia to what is now Chile.
Agreed that a tragedy of rising sea levels is that we don't know what settlements were lost under the waves.
"It must have been an amazing time to be alive."
Not if you were a Steller's Sea Cow, flightless marine duck, mammoth, mastodon, gomphothere, giant ground sloth, glyptodont, giant beaver, giant camel, giant armoured tortoise, giant armadillo, macrauchenia, toxodon or other member of the American megafauna.
Live then must have been a nasty, brutish and short
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It surely was for people who had neither modern technology nor antibiotics. They were just trying to have enough surviving children to take care of them in an old age that was in the 40's or 50's if they were lucky. When they got to a new land with large, slowly-reproducing animals who did not even recognize people at first as predators, it was easy meat. The concern was to get food for the next few days. Once the game was gone in one area, nomadic bands moved on. Eventually, it was gone and hunted out in all areas. Humans don't tend to think of the environment until they have devastated the flora and fauna, and felt the impact of that devastation. The Royal Hunt of the Sun was the mark of the civilized Incas, not their primitive ancestors who first came to the Americas.
I appreciate your broader brush looking at all evidence.
Many academics get tunnel vision as their reputation is dependent on their version of events.
Nice to have all the possibilities presented.
Goddammit I gotta wake up for manual labor in 5 hours and You drop this shit
Good morning 😊
Hey, don't worry, the video will still be here when you wake up!
best history channel on youtube
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Got school tommorow and its 12AM, TO BAD ANCIENT AMERICAS DROPPED!!
I better not see any of your teachers complaining in the comments.
One of the things that in my mind helps the boat theory for the coastal migration is how native Americans in the Northwest anyway were very boat proficient for fishing and travel for long distances.
I get a STRONG sense of a very grudging acceptance of the newer older dates of human settlement of the Americas from this video ;) Human settlement of North and South America is VERY complex, and more evidence is emerging that humans and possibly our relatives have been in the Americas for 100's of *thousands* of years. The butchered mammoth bones in california have been exhaustively tested along with the site, and are *130,000* years old.
There are genetic echoes of Australian aboriginal DNA in several South American tribes, hinting at a likely early crossing of the Pacific.
I really don't get that.
Also. The ceruti mastodon site was addressed in the video and I think pretty effectively shown to be a really weak hook to use to hold up a claim as big as "the Americas were inhabited by archaic human species".
No one doubts the age of the cerutti mastadon site. The dates on that site are solid and not disputed. The dispute is whether or not humans killed and butchered the mastadons there.
No debate
@@AncientAmericastrue but (as far as I understand it) the counter arguments as to the breakages and placements of the bones happening naturally are also pretty iffy, I get that it’s the responsibility of the ones trying to prove it to give evidence, but that’s doesn’t mean we can just ignore that the evidence to the counter is also (if not more) very difficult to credit
I'd just like to throw out there that 99% of "archeology" in the United States is done by construction workers who have a MASSIVE incentive NOT to find anything. Multi-billion dollar developmental properties aren't gonna be stopped by much.
I respect what you do (honestly I'm a little jealous) so keep it up :)
What do you mean watching a UA-cam video doesn’t count?!? “I watched a UA-cam” is my favorite way to dismiss people’s concerns about a topic. 😂😂
I hate to spoil the party.
11/10 for local libraries. Mine does inter-library lines with a continent-wide network plus access to academic materials & digital collection. Fantastic.
It often seems like academics are less interested in defending their settlement hypothesis, and rather are defending their grant money.
Unfortunately, you usually need grant money to do archaeology and scientific studies. Something as simple as a soil test can cost over $1000.
@@AncientAmericas oh for sure, that's why we need one of those eccentric billionaires
In light of White Sands, we need to start looking in LGM strata up rivers that were near the southern end of the Cordilleran ice sheet -- like the Chehalis, Willapa, and obviously rhe Columbia. The Portland Basin should get some more attention -- although the glacial damn burst floods crashed hard into there, and might have buried evidence under a lot of gravels.
The Willapa area probably isn't an option either due to how rapidly the landscape changes here. Maybe you'd find stuff in the mountains, but everything else is probably under dozens of feet of marine mud or in the ocean.
Yes, perhaps best chance of finding evidence could be south along the coast into Oregon, and up rivers where they would have prospected for conchoidal fracture material for replenishing tools. High points in the coastal mountains may have been tundra, modified a bit by warmer marine influence to make foot travel over the ridges, past Triangle lake, into the Willamette valley fairly easily. They would probably be looking for potential new mating possibilities too, to be hormonal-driven eastward, yet not finding other bands already there to find?
Why just there? There are some fantastic sites on the east coast that date 17-19kya.
@@qui-gonjay2944- There are not solid dates that early on the East Coast. And if there were, there should be considerably _earlier_ dates on the West Coast.
We do have a solid date in eastern Oregon, at Rimrock Draw, at 18kya.
@@cacogenicist that’s simply untrue. Cactus Hill, Parsons Island, Miles Point all have secure older dates. Fact is you like to apply different scrutiny to sites that don’t fit you model.