The fact the chick at 7:13 was saying the fighters only have a little amount of good them shows how judgmental she is, pisses me off she assumes they’re all terrible people for being to fight.
She's saying she KNOWS everyone must have that *little* good somewhere in there, not that they only have a little bit of good in them. This is a difference in the perception of violence, to put it in perspective, in her mind committing violence is no different than willfully murdering someone, thats what she imagines has to go through someone's head to hit someone. In reality violence is very nuanced, situational, and good vs bad can have very little if not nothing to do with it. This being said I believe she is living in a sort of imaginary world with her own made up rules motivations for violence. This likely comes from a place of complete ignorance to the topic and therefore she is very likely not a "bad person" for her views. She sure as shit isn't very likable for them though 🤷
Although i reckon you could be a type of pacifist and still ok with boxing and mma but not war as no one is killed intentionally in combat sports and there is consent involved (unlike in war).
That guy is not a pacifist, he’s the sort of person who’s been told they shouldn’t like violence, but deep down he knows he does, he enjoyed watching that.
There is a lot of that shit going around, especially on things guys like. I enjoy violence, I enjoy committing it and observing. I'm just not dumb enough to do violence outside of it's proper place (a training room, a commissioned fight, or self defense, that's it).
@@Bonesawisready926 yeah I get it too, I have practiced martial arts for 10 years. Violence has its place. If nothing else, it is a good workout. But other than that it teaches control and trains your instincts, it's not a bad thing.
@@Bonesawisready926 That's pretty honest lol. I think I'm the same although the only fights I've been in were school fights and those aren't really fights. But there is that attraction. I'm gonna be taking up muy thai, seeing if I enjoy it and I think i shall.
@@gabago0l school fights are the funniest things to watch. Especially because the majority of people initiating the fight start it for dumb reasons. And they are just slap boxing and hugging so that’s funny
@@bruhroyale12123 I guess when you're a child it seems more cool. I remember mine got started because I told some lower grade kid to fuck off. We fought a few hours later and he tried tackling me so i just started kneeing him. I have no desire to get into a street fight though since I'm not an idiot.
TheBirdThatWhistles or you might be against all forms of violence but you aren’t disturbed by it and you think it’s cool to watch it (not describing myself here just making an example.)
@@TheBirdThatWhistles I disagree, men are just naturally attracted to violence from thousands of years of war, it satisfies our ancestors DNA inside of us. It’s extremely unlikely one of your grandfathers hasn’t killed a man.
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I love it when you see an MMA fan that doesn't know they're a fan yet, I've met a few of them when I was out watching fights before too. Curious thing about this guy is that he said he has friends that are into it, it's weird that he seems so receptive to it and it's not like he hasn't been exposed to it before.
Yeah that mentality comes from someone who has never been exposed to hardship or violence. But while he said that. It's not really the reality. He might just suck at fighting and may be comfortable within society where he is. But I'm willing to bet if he was put into a situation where it was fight or die. He would choose fight. As is natural of humans and any other creature on the planet. Humanity as a whole are complex creatures. When it comes down to it. That said people like them first try to avoid conflict. Then try to negotiate their way out of it. And then as a last resort, will fight with everything they have. They might not be skilled. But desperate people have pulled off some amazing shit in history.
Well I think you're misscharacterizing him because nowhere in the video does he say "I did not enjoy that" as a matter of fact at the end of the video he says the exact opposite. He says "I respect the dedication and the craft."
they don't seem that really shocked , pacifist my ass yeah, they seem pretty enjoy but dont assume it, i don't support violence , but the world is as it is, you have to deal with it, but don't smile if you truely think it's horrible , they are not diferent , we all are humans , for the best and for the worst
I mean, ultimately I'm a pacifist, I dont like or believe in solving things with violence unless entirely necessary. But this shits a sport, I love it.
He's easygoing and open-minded about things that may not be his cup of tea. A gold star pacifist if you ask me. Being vehemently anti-everything-that-doesnt-cater-to-my-sensibilities seems like the one life path a pacifist would most likely want to avoid to keep confrontation to a minimum, but it's clearly not the case.
"deep down inside there is a little bit of good in them" what an ignorant and ridiculous statement about martial artists.... Most of them are top notch human beings. It's unbelievable how brainwashed this woman is, the one who is ashamed of her age.
Nah, most of them aren't top notch human beings. They are average human beings, some are "good" some are "a*holes" and most are somewhere in between just like in the normal population. And it's not ridiculous to think they are bad if you aren't into MA and only see how they beat the living crap out of each other, it's not normal social behaviour. You only understand that it's acceptable if you inform yourself about it, that there are strict rules to make it safe and fair, and both fighters are consenting individuals, otherwise, it's totally normal to think it's barbaric.
Ikr and her just saying "there has to be another way to resolve this" resolve what? There usually never is any real beef between fighters. Most of the time the "beef" is just made up to sell ppv. And even in real beef fights, there isnt any other way to resolve it. Thats just how we humans are. If somone beats you in a 1v1 fair and square mma fight. What ever issues you had with him should be gone. The beef is over. Like in street beefs, most if not all real beef fights end in the opponents huging it out or shaking hands. This lady really triggered me lol
"You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" Unless you are capable of great violence. If you are not capable of violence, You're not peaceful, You're harmless"
you cannot cause harm even if you wanted to or tried. i chose peace today because i know what i am fully capable of and dont want to harm anyone with my glorious power.
Asking if it's normal human behavior... this kind of activities have been a thing (and a very central one at that) since the dawn of civilization across all continents. Like, what are you going to do, ban humanity? This has across history and cultures always been a core part of being a human.
She’s a pacifist but every second sentence of hers was about how this is barbaric and questioning the behavior making it look bad. In the end when she is like “I believe everyone has good in them” and then makes it look like these athletes are bad people because of their sport. How can she call herself a pacifist if with every statement or hers she tries to make it look bad to make her look better. I mean you would be used to this behavior from those weird girls from Highschool or like 14 year olds but for a grown woman to be so into appearance and being right all the time fucks my head up. She Is the reason people use PR firms.
@@ShinmenTakezou18 it's because shes a weak individual inside and out and can't grapple with the fact that there are people that exist that aren't hindered mentally and emotionally like she is.
He definitely seems like the least confrontational of the pacifists on display. Some of the others look ready to fight over how pacifist they believe everybody should be.
It’s interesting seeing how differently these three people who say they’re the same thing react to MMA, Laura respects it as a sport but has a lot of empathy and worries for the fighters, Zach doesn’t really seem to be trying to push the “pacifist” message but seems to actually enjoy the sport I think he’s just against real violence and brutality like most of us, and Ingrid seems to think she has some moral high ground and that people who watch and enjoy MMA are genuinely weird/wrong and that the fighters are bad people for participating in it and for doing what they do in their fights
I read this somewhere and can't remember when: "You can’t truly call yourself ‘peaceful’ unless you are capable of great violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful, you’re harmless."
Being a hardline pacifist just tells me you’ve had an incredibly privileged and sheltered life and it’s incredibly aloof to simply dismiss combat sport as “insane” or “unexplainable” like they’re somehow enlightened.
“it’s just not normal is it?” You’re absolutely right. We as a species have only survived thousands of years through a lack of violence. The same goes for tigers…
Man the older lady has a very twisted sense of morality, I really struggle to understand her at all. It seems she's found a way to believe herself a good person based on an idea that most people grow out of. The character and discipline displayed by the majority of MMA fighters is a much more authentic foundation for any morality than simply 'I don't believe in violence therefore I am good'. Charles Oliveira's story is a perfect example. Raised in the slums, he spent decades mastering mindful violence to create a better life for himself and so many others in his community. I wonder how her beliefs would tackle that reality if she spent some time learning.
The whole "that's not normal" comment is actually so strange to me. Violence is the most innate thing to not just humans but any animal ever! Compared to that the comfort that allowed a part of the population to be able to deny violence is actually the not normal thing.
They appear to be presenting some of the KOs without context, which doesn't really help the reacters (reactors?) understand the situation. Regardless, bringing pacifists onto a show called "MMA Reacts" is like bringing someone of an opposing political view onto one of the US "News" networks. You're there to say the wrong things and get dunked on. The ladies seem to be doing alright in this regard. Zach, who has clearly seen a fight or two in his lifetime, is failing at this.
You said it absolutely perfectly. She was pissing me off the whole time too. Her comment about how there must be some good in them was completely and totally disrespectful. She doesn't understand what it actually takes to do this for a living. An archaic and, quite frankly ridiculous belief that not believing in violence simply makes you a good person proves she doesn't know much about anything.
He said it or not ,but you have to be a strong and fearless person to be a pacifist and if you are not strong and fearless then you are a coward hiding beyond the veil of pacifism
@@loprtiok but you cant reject violence if you cant generate violence to begin with. but people who can generate alot of violence but dont are the true pacifists.
Zach: Father Figure (secretly loves fights) Laura: Mother Figure (cares a lot about the individual fighters and seems genuninely worried) Ingrid: Mother Theresa (falsely wise, arrogant, ignorant)
I like the difference between Laura’s and Ingrid. Laura is quite sheltered, but she means well, and opposes violence out of genuine concern for others. As far as I can tell, she doesn’t think she’s superior to others. Ingrid is a pacifist so she can (in her mind) be superior to other people without actually doing anything to improve herself.
Mother Theresa was very good at torture and causing suffering. I can totally see how a pacifist would idolize them. /s Calls sport barbaric, but doesn't even have a proper education .. -sigh-
@@mackenziebenedict8403 yeah Laura seemed like a sweetheart. Like she understands that its a sport and gets it, but just doesnt like it cause she doesnt like violence. But she isnt bitchy about it as the older lady
@@cygnusx-3217 Gandhi wasn't a pacifist by principle but by tactics. he knew he couldn't beat the british empire in a fight. he's not the saint ppl claim to be
Are you aware what you just said would mean minor conflicts like you accidentally bumping into someone end with a physical altercation? Also there would no legal system because everyone settels their conflicts inside the ring. I am not sure you thought this through.
@@laurean5998 Yeah if you bump into the wrong person you won't wait for the ring to get in a physical altercation even with the current legal system. Go try.
@@laurean5998 i think he meant wars and battles were instead of 100,000's of fathers, sons, husbands, mothers, wifes, daughters dying, it reduces casualties, the best warriors fight the best warriors, its a primative concept as the fate of your people rest on your shoulders and bigger countries can bully every smaller guy as they can train fighters with high tech and diets, trainers, etc. But its a fun concept, like David vs Goliath, it actually has happened before, ancient war had one Warrior from their army fight one warrior from the enemy army and winner wins, neither will lose troops and perserve a lot of peoples life, Duels also come to mind, instead of suing or making an uproar, you defend your honor with a duel, you accept it then youre willing to die and know the risk, even so, the justice system fucks more people than a death match
@@laurean5998 Absolutism does leave holes but I think we all know what he really meant and what specific situations he was referring too. It also depends on how you define conflict.
Being a pacifist is respectable. Being able to keep your cool in escalating situations and find a peaceful resolve is a very admirable trait. BUT… refusing any kind of violence and refusing to learn any self defense is just irresponsible.
or they just don't like excessive violence maybe? I myself love fighting, but I understand why some people might not. Go look at the way ufc marketed this in the old day. They'd actually promote someone might die in the cage lol
“I’m not a fan of violence, not even to stop other violence” is probably the most privileged, arrogant and ignorant thing I've ever heard. It really shows that she has never experienced any sort of danger ever in her life
Agreed. What happens when she or someone she cares about is being attacked? Just stand by and watch? So noble. Bullshit. She's pretending and is living in fantasy land.
@@michelangelo_6933 Even if she calls the police, she is calling the government to send their armed peacemakers who will use force to alter the situation.
I am strictly anti war. I think it should never be part of politics. Any form of violence and things that glorify this violence should be rather banned or looked very criticly upon on. BUT if there is one side that chooses violence rather by actual physical violence or to surpess people of cause it has to be stopped. I don't go to anti war rallys because i think it would make those who would want a war think different but to make those who oppose it gain strengh. RFKB did nothing wrong!
@@oskarstobinski4522 all the nations and civililisations were developing in conflicts and violence. If there was no war or violence in all kind people wouldnt change themselves to be stronger therefore they cant develop. War is literally most important part of politics
Yeah, that was a little wild. But I don't think MVP has done in cage celebrations that involve his opponents anymore since then. Probably felt horrible after he found out he actually broke the dudes skull. That was so odd to watch. Cyborg just on the ground writhing in pain he didn't know he could feel, then the dude who did it throw's a pokeball at you. Not a great look.
Ya know what I think would be a great segment for this channel? To get the same people. or other individuals that identify as pacifists and put em in a room with an MMA fighter, and have the Pacifist ask them questions on why they do what they do and explain to them why they chose MMA as a career. I think that would make for a compelling video.
Or have an MMA fighter and a "pacifist" with a 3rd party asking them difficult hypothetical questions, like what would you do if you see an old woman getting mugged, and stuff like that.
YES. Great idea. Someone well spoken would be good to do this type of thing. Michael Chandler comes to mind or even someone like Chael. A classy lady like Valentina Shevchenko or Laura Sanko would be good too. On the other side of the coin, if you want diehard comedy, get someone like Mike Perry or Sean Strickland to do it. That would be comedy gold 😂
"is that normal human behavior?" Most definitely. We are inherently violent and combative and we've turned fighting into a sport since forever. It's probably one of the most natural things about us.
Yea I know right, obvious example are Roman Colosseums. But the better example are school fights, everyone gathers around and takes out their phones xD... now imagine when the school fights are two skilled opponents.
Being a pacifist is such a strange concept. The fact that you could be so sheltered your whole life to the point of disillusion when a simple mma fight is on is worrying. Hopefully they never see what true violence really is
Just send these people to Rio de Janeiro in Brazil. Let them live in the slums there for a month. Im pretty sure they will rethink their concept of life.
The 25 year old guy is a fan already. The 25 year old woman is a fan that just doesn't know it yet. The woman in denial of her age still thinks the fights are arranged so the two fighters can settle some sort of argument and there has to be a better way to resolve their disagreements.
GREAT COMMENT. Wish I got to you first. The thought of really hurting someone permanently or killing an innocent makes me physically ill. Yet I have been boxing since I was 7 and now coach as well. I dont know a single guy who wants a sociopath in their gym no matter how good they are. You take violent troubled kids and men in to teach them discipline and control, but never stone cold psychos. If those kids are great but you think they are going to go out and use it to do even more damage. They are out and no decent coach wants them
@@TheNYCGoldenGlover Agreed. I always compare teaching a student how to hurt people better, but neglecting to teach them discipline and morality to giving a child a loaded gun.
Nah them dudes hide in the panic room until dude leave with all their stuff, then they call the cops an show em security footage. if dudes have masks oh and gloves oh well. Why you have renters/property insurance. Personally I'm just gonna shoot ya because I can in this state.
@@riichobamin7612 "Sir, You are being racist and that's not exactly your fault as American society has a deep rooted internalized racism problem" The KKK dude: "So, anyway, I started blasting"
The guy is just like my wife, complains every time I turn on a fight and then avidly watches it and cheers them on while pretending she hates it. Armchair pacifist 😂
My mother had a relative who didn't care much for ice hockey. But her eyes would be glued to the screen every time two players dropped the gloves for a fight.
@@buba759 No. Pacifist are all evil because they expect everyone else to do the heavy lifting of protecting society while looking down their noses at everyone else.
@@buba759 if they were bad people they'd be starting random fights in public, instead they go into a ring where both parties have acknowledged the dangers, and the rules that try to prevent life long injuries
It always makes me laugh when I see or hear someone say "violence never solves anything" especially when the people that say that live comfortably and securely in communities where violence is literally solving things 24/7.
It would be dumb too for basically any country. Your independence was won not just by violence, but by a fuckton of death. Do people think American slaves were freed because we politely asked?
“Deep deep down I know there’s still good in them” like lady, some of these fighter, actually a lot of fighters do a lot for their communities, charities, and more. Which is a lot more than she’s ever done for her community
I got so annoyed at that. There's only a select few of them who are complete assholes. Most of them are decent and as you said so many do a lot for others. This woman is out of touch with reality
I mean... Stipe was the champion of the division with some of the most brutal knockouts (generally speaking) while being a first aid responder and firefighter XD
The lady who said "deep deep deep down there is some good in them", imagine the fighters who donate 10's of thousands of dollars to charity and help their community and she has the audacity to imply they are essentially for the most part, terrible people.
Fighters: martial arts saved my life and kept me out of trouble. I want to give other disadvantaged kids in my area the same chance that I had. Her: But you're really not a good person, are you.
That was the most telling portion of the video, her implying that being a professional fighter makes someone a bad person. Incredibly shallow and judgemental
Thousands of years bro! The Romans, the Greeks, Many African countries, nearly all the great civilisations hosted and created their own forms of combat sports.
People think combat sports is just about violence. It’s so much more than that. Combat sports and martial arts is a whole art form and a science at the same time.
As someone who was a soldier for quite a while I can never quite grasp pacifism. Not everyone is kind and understanding which is when violence is necessary. Only a madman wishes for war but only a naive person isn't ready for it.
As a swiss i am priveledged enough to not have to go to the army. (I did a year of civil service because you can help more people like that, at least in a country that has been "neutral" for centuries now.) But in a more personal way a also wont start a fight with anyone anywhere but i will defend myself if someone chose to attack me. Which gladly has only happend once (being 6'5 230lbs helps a lot there) and that guy was drunk af.
I always want to be ready to survive but never ready to kill someone else, I personally hold no love for my friggin country, but yeah, I'd do anything to protect my loved ones
I may be a pacifist, and would never volunteer for the military, and if I was drafted I would try to get conscientious objector status. That being said, if I went to war, I imagine I would shoot back. Violence itself isn’t inherently good or bad, it’s in how you use it, and I think many people in our society are too immature to use it correctly or see the difference.
It can come from honesty. People that are aware they dont have whats in them to fight back or people that suffered from violence and will not repeat it under amy circumstances
Being a "pacifist" is a privilege granted by the massive struggle and battles and bloody wars fought by our ancestors, as well as the entire battle for survival over hundreds of millions of years of evolution leading up to our current "civilized" form
It's not just a privilege bestowed by ancestors but even in current conditions we have rule of law. We trust that we don't have to hunt animals because hunters do that for us. Food doesn't come from the forest, it comes from the grocery store now. We won't get raped or murdered on our way to the store because there is rule of law, and bad people who would do such things know they will be dragged to prison by a government capable of as much violence as possible to make sure they go. Pacifists outsource violence, then look down on the people they outsource it to
Not true, there are many religions that have practiced non violence from pre silk road up to now, there was also a pacifist medic in ww2 that was awarded the medal of honor for his actions on Hacksaw Ridge. Life is more nuanced than you think bro, having a narrow view can blind you to reality.
@@Audio041194 Yes, but these examples exist within the overall framework of human society that has been brought about through violence. If everyone in ww2 acted as the medic did, the war would have been lost, and the temporary peaceful times that we have all taken for granted in the western world would have never come to be. What do you think would have happened to Ukraine, for example, if they just chose the pacifist way. Surely nothing good. Hopefully they win the war and expel the forces that are trying to take them over so that people can exist peacefully and "passively" within their society when it's all over. But none of that will be possible without first fighting (by the way I was in Kiev when the war started). Also why do you feel the need to add "having a narrow view can blind you to reality?" In disagreeing with my point, you are trying (pathetically) to attack me for some reason, without even knowing anything about me. Very strange
"Hate violence, even if it's to stop other violence" Ah yes, the "zero-tolerance for bullying" approach. So you support violence, as long as it's not the most recent violence.
The self proclaimed pacifist black lady makes me cringe when she says “deep down there may be good inside them”. Most of these UFC fighters are humble, disciplined, and respectful people, not straight up warmongers and barbarians from the medieval-age. It’s like she has a premonition that UFC fighters brains are just caveman killing addicted people. These fighters have full respect for each other. Kinda weird when she says that. Anyways I love the dude in the video, maybe a future/secret UFC fan
I'm going to be very frank with everyone here: I'm a peace activist. I absolutely hate the concept of war. I went to Iraq and saw atrocities and became disenchanted with violence of all kinds. That said, I'm also a martial artist. I have been involved in MMA since my youth. And the mentality and environment in actual MMA is completely different from the violence we see in war and crime. The people involved are consenting adults, and they are proficient in a skill. To be averse to this sort of sport in such a snooty way is basically a lack in understanding as opposed to a higher understanding. I can't speak for all martial artists, but the folks I've been around have been the most willing to put their own lives on the line before others in order to prevent cruel situations from occurring. To me, this is a form of pacifism that makes the most sense. The whole hemophobic and cringey disposition is essentially childish in my eyes.
It’s always fascinating how out of touch some people can be… “Violence doesn’t solve anything”. It actually solves a whole lot of things, especially when properly applied 🤷🏻♂️
Trying to steelman his argument, "violence doesn't solve anything" could be applied to something like gang wars, when there's an endless spiral of revenge going on and each side feels justified so it never stops. Of course wiping out the other side completely would solve it...
Exactly, imagine if ww2 never happend, if no one stood up to hitler with violence. What would the world look like under the rule of nazi germany....they just dont care what violence has done to humanity
7:08 "I think to myself that, deep deep down inside there's that little bit of good in them. Maybe it's covered up with a whole load of stuff" Calm down! No-one is being assaulted here. They're not evil. This is all consensual, and any fighter can stop the match at any time by conceding.
And they shake hands after such intense and close fights around 95% of the time. They may disagree with judges but still show respect to their opponents except for few exceptions.
It's a person who never fought in her life. She doesn't understand that there is a deep level of respect between fighters. They are not there to kill or do evil.
I promise you that bit ticked me off! Like who does she think she is, she's taking the pacifist role way to seriously that just because someone fights they are now some evil demon.
MMA fighters: *Fight* Pacifists: "I don't get it... I'm sure there must be another way to resolve this thing" What, did you want them to sit down in the octagon and play Rock Paper Scissors?
@@redclayscholar620 It just seems like if a fighter tried to choke his opponent she'd say "Oh why try to kill him?". And if it had ended in the score cards they probably did beat the shit out of each other either way so she'd still be in shock LOL
Also what are they "resolving"? They're not fighting because they need to solve some sort of problem, they're fighting because they enjoy doing it, they get paid to do it, and their fans enjoy watching them fight. That's the definition of a sport.
@@jeffreydorman8715 My point exactly, she sounds like she just can't fathom the idea that that's a sport, not some people fighting till death or something.
Zach is normally a pacifist, but when he s watching some sick fights his british soul is awakening
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA "his british soul" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
The british dont have souls
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@@BongDrinker cry about it
Lmaooooo
Started with 3 pacifists, ended with 2 pacifists
nah, that guy actually watches every event with his pals. he just saw an opportunity to get on youtube.
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i mean he did say he couldn't care less if he never saw it again
Bro reverted back to factory settings
That is gold
Facts my guy.
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Zach is the bro. Ingrid's the concerned mom. Laura's the girlfriend who's worried about you.
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The fact the chick at 7:13 was saying the fighters only have a little amount of good them shows how judgmental she is, pisses me off she assumes they’re all terrible people for being to fight.
Yeah shes a little up an alley with that statement
Yeah, she was pissing me off with that condescending judgmental bs the entire video. Very unlikeable person.
She's saying she KNOWS everyone must have that *little* good somewhere in there, not that they only have a little bit of good in them. This is a difference in the perception of violence, to put it in perspective, in her mind committing violence is no different than willfully murdering someone, thats what she imagines has to go through someone's head to hit someone. In reality violence is very nuanced, situational, and good vs bad can have very little if not nothing to do with it. This being said I believe she is living in a sort of imaginary world with her own made up rules motivations for violence. This likely comes from a place of complete ignorance to the topic and therefore she is very likely not a "bad person" for her views. She sure as shit isn't very likable for them though 🤷
@@paulwalked5810 this. nice one man
Pacifist live comfortably in a world that non-pacifist have risked their lives to protect.
Female pacifists: "I don't like this, I need my therapist"
Male pacifists: "I don-BAHAHAHAHAHA, what a twat, I need to see that again"
474 likes w/ no comments bud
The man in him is coming out 😂
@@zf5656 who cares about that lol
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Male had his balls reattatched.
You could tell Zach was going to be a fan 14 seconds in lol
I was like oh this guy is part of the demographic how can he not be a fan 😂 starts smiling and laughing right away i think hes enjoying it
Yep yep
Yea 😂😂 I agree 😂😂
He probably became a "committed" pacifist for his girlfriend or something.^^
@@yomanwtfisthisshit just like how some guys become vegan for their girls 😂
Zach seems like he's a huge fan and auditioned for this as a joke and just kept it going lmao .
Fr 😂
Although i reckon you could be a type of pacifist and still ok with boxing and mma but not war as no one is killed intentionally in combat sports and there is consent involved (unlike in war).
lol 🤣🤣
he's returning to the nature
One girl crying, one girl low-key enjoying it and the lad having the time of his life
legend says that this dude has never missed an event since
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@@loungekiller you mean like? Ahah
@@benfica-qp9cj he's joe
@@Mini20maro English please?
@@benfica-qp9cj Joe mama
The lady crying then they cut to the guy laughing his ass off had me crying 💀
same lmaoo
The editing was on point.
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To be honest. Sometimes we need people like this in the world. People that truly care about complete strangers. They keep ot from going full crazy
That guy is not a pacifist, he’s the sort of person who’s been told they shouldn’t like violence, but deep down he knows he does, he enjoyed watching that.
There is a lot of that shit going around, especially on things guys like. I enjoy violence, I enjoy committing it and observing. I'm just not dumb enough to do violence outside of it's proper place (a training room, a commissioned fight, or self defense, that's it).
@@Bonesawisready926 yeah I get it too, I have practiced martial arts for 10 years. Violence has its place. If nothing else, it is a good workout. But other than that it teaches control and trains your instincts, it's not a bad thing.
@@Bonesawisready926 That's pretty honest lol. I think I'm the same although the only fights I've been in were school fights and those aren't really fights. But there is that attraction. I'm gonna be taking up muy thai, seeing if I enjoy it and I think i shall.
@@gabago0l school fights are the funniest things to watch. Especially because the majority of people initiating the fight start it for dumb reasons. And they are just slap boxing and hugging so that’s funny
@@bruhroyale12123 I guess when you're a child it seems more cool. I remember mine got started because I told some lower grade kid to fuck off. We fought a few hours later and he tried tackling me so i just started kneeing him.
I have no desire to get into a street fight though since I'm not an idiot.
3:47 I don’t think bro is a pacifist
No bs😭😭
😂😂
Watching a pacifist laugh at a face kick made my night
Different brands of pacifist; some think violence as a solution doesn't work but as a sport it's perfectly fine
TheBirdThatWhistles or you might be against all forms of violence but you aren’t disturbed by it and you think it’s cool to watch it (not describing myself here just making an example.)
@@jsgv7935 yeah... that's exactly what i said
@@TheBirdThatWhistles not really, up your reading comprehension
@@TheBirdThatWhistles I disagree, men are just naturally attracted to violence from thousands of years of war, it satisfies our ancestors DNA inside of us. It’s extremely unlikely one of your grandfathers hasn’t killed a man.
The guy lied on the application he’s a low key fan
100%
He’s Dana whites nephew
Dude was having too much fun lmao
The guys chilling with his boys saying "remember that time I convinced mma on point I was a pacifist to get on YT" 😂😂
@@cornelius9836 😂😂that’s gold
"It's better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war".
- Bruce Lee
It's better to be a warrior if you want to decrease the likelihood violence.
Isn’t what the real shinobis were tho😂? Those farmers were pretty decent for what its worth
ancient Greek conscript: im a farmer.
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is our Profession?!
Spartans: WAR! WAR! WAR!
@@Sauce_Sensei i think shinobi were pretty much samurai on a spy mission but ok
Not if your objective is creating food to feed your warriors
7:40 "something that doesn't interest me..." dude, theclast 7 minutes just proved that wrong.
Soo true he f***ing loved it 😂😂
He lied on the application
Guy went from I’m a pacifist to “I’m gonna watch him pass a fist alright”
Ok
Ba dum tss 🥁
🤣🤣🤣
Zach deadass went home and bought UFC fight pass after that 💀💀
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@@JeffersonLOLwagwan G nobody cares
@@JeffersonLOLamen
@@leonxd6050I care
The guy could definitely become a fan, the black lady probably saw a therapist afterward 😂
The blonde lady definitely went and ruined someone elses day after this. Probably had a good scream at a barista after
@@grapefruitsimmons The guy is now a fan lol
I love it when you see an MMA fan that doesn't know they're a fan yet, I've met a few of them when I was out watching fights before too. Curious thing about this guy is that he said he has friends that are into it, it's weird that he seems so receptive to it and it's not like he hasn't been exposed to it before.
How do you know she’s a black lady?
She may identify as a 15 year old Chinese grand dad.
Yeah, the dude seemed chill
I love to imagine zach going home, buying 3 crates of beer, ordering a pizza, sitting on the couch and watching ufc highlights all night
That guy doesnt even know what a pacifist is. He just accepted to be in the video bc he wanted a snack or something. What a legend.
Hahahahahah
Shhhhhh
he's a pacifist because he dont want to do it, he can't find the guts to train and fight, thats what he's saying i must admit i had doubt too !
a pacifist is someone who opposes war so it's nothing to do with combat sports
I think he saw the white girl was on it and thought he try and get her number?
“I hate violence.”
3:33
“I gotta watch that again.”
That laugh was his man coming out lol😂
“I’m not a fan of violence, not even to stop other violence” says a lady who has obviously never had to witness real violence in her life
Do you have to be a fan of violence in order to defend yourself?💭 (not a pacifist btw)
She is full of it. If she was being attacked by someone she would pray for some violence to stop the attacker.
Stay on the block I lived one for one month I promise she would have a very different opinion lol/.
@@costa200 Exactly my thought.
It's obvious that her mindset is incredibly sheltered. Lucky, sheltered individuals with low empathy are annoying as all hell.
“Hate violence to stop other violence” is so arrogant. “Please stop stabbing the other person! :(“
Yeah that mentality comes from someone who has never been exposed to hardship or violence.
But while he said that. It's not really the reality. He might just suck at fighting and may be comfortable within society where he is. But I'm willing to bet if he was put into a situation where it was fight or die. He would choose fight. As is natural of humans and any other creature on the planet.
Humanity as a whole are complex creatures. When it comes down to it. That said people like them first try to avoid conflict. Then try to negotiate their way out of it. And then as a last resort, will fight with everything they have. They might not be skilled. But desperate people have pulled off some amazing shit in history.
“I’d rather be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war”
Great Statement
Do you have any more old cliché to share ?
@@SwordOfS if you can't cross the road, get out of the kitchen
@@skyman6936 HHAHAHAHAHA
@@skyman6936 😂😂😂
2 girls : 😢😢😢
The guy : 😂😂😂😂😂😂
2 girls: 😂😂😂
the cup: 😥😥😥
@@CeeDeeLmao Me after seeing this 😢😢😢
She still thought those guys were sexy 😂
😂😂😂
@@CeeDeeLmao 😂
I love how homeboy was smiling and laughing the entire video and was like “I did not enjoy that”. I call 🧢
the conflict inside... I know it's bad but I like it somewhere, lets forget it, lets not talk about it, not honest to themselves...
Well I think you're misscharacterizing him because nowhere in the video does he say "I did not enjoy that" as a matter of fact at the end of the video he says the exact opposite. He says "I respect the dedication and the craft."
Laughter is some people’s coping mechanism.
Nick?
they don't seem that really shocked , pacifist my ass yeah, they seem pretty enjoy but dont assume it, i don't support violence , but the world is as it is, you have to deal with it, but don't smile if you truely think it's horrible , they are not diferent , we all are humans , for the best and for the worst
2:06 yes it's literally one of a humans most primal human functions
Does she not know what the Colosseum‘s were used for
@@paulbaker9455Was gonna say the same
You can tell they liked watching it but we’re trying to act like they disliked jt
Zach saw the Masvidal knee and wasn’t a pacifist anymore loooool
The pacifist inside him was knocked out just as quickly, too.
Super necessary
His pacifism is in critical condition, might not make it
He absolutely enjoyed the Segas vs Harding KO, so I don't think he qualifies for pacifist anymore
part of me thinks hes about as much of a "pacifist" as those guys who go vegan for their gfs...
That guy ain't a pacifist dude's a savage just like the rest of us laughed when the fighter that was dancing got KO'd cold
He thought he was xD
I mean, ultimately I'm a pacifist, I dont like or believe in solving things with violence unless entirely necessary.
But this shits a sport, I love it.
He's easygoing and open-minded about things that may not be his cup of tea. A gold star pacifist if you ask me.
Being vehemently anti-everything-that-doesnt-cater-to-my-sensibilities seems like the one life path a pacifist would most likely want to avoid to keep confrontation to a minimum, but it's clearly not the case.
I actually think he’s the most pacifistic person on the panel because he also avoids confrontation with the hosts about what he’s watching.
@@Wheezdadd Then you are not a pacifist.
The guy was just being real, and not overreacting. He's a pacifist, but he also knows the fighters get bank, and signed up for it.
He's clueless about the actual sportsmanship, but that's about it.
The fighters do not get bank lol the lack of fighter pay is one of the biggest controversies in the sport
@@supernintenjoe8911 sportsmanship aint shit
@@toniotrussardi8126 so you compete?
The lady with the weaves/dreads trying to be “stereotypical pacifist” saying “I’m sure there was another way to resolve this.”
Zach laughing at the dancing guy getting ko'ed when he's supposed to be a pacifist is funny asf
“A pacifist is someone who hates violence”
I don’t think that’s what a pacifist is.
Lol indeed
Absolutely, someone who hates something cannot be a pacifist
@@vicsal9268 Pacifism is about being opposed to violence, not hate.
That IS what a pacifist is.
@@jejey999 The more MMA fanbase opens it's mouth, the more I realize why they think of us as idiots
"deep down inside there is a little bit of good in them" what an ignorant and ridiculous statement about martial artists.... Most of them are top notch human beings. It's unbelievable how brainwashed this woman is, the one who is ashamed of her age.
Yeah I find it strange she didnt told her age
Yeah and that us fightfans are bad people too
Wait 'til she finds out who GSP, Max Holloway, DJ, Frankie Edgar, Stephen Thompson, Cyril Gane and JDS are
Nah, most of them aren't top notch human beings. They are average human beings, some are "good" some are "a*holes" and most are somewhere in between just like in the normal population. And it's not ridiculous to think they are bad if you aren't into MA and only see how they beat the living crap out of each other, it's not normal social behaviour. You only understand that it's acceptable if you inform yourself about it, that there are strict rules to make it safe and fair, and both fighters are consenting individuals, otherwise, it's totally normal to think it's barbaric.
Ikr and her just saying "there has to be another way to resolve this" resolve what? There usually never is any real beef between fighters. Most of the time the "beef" is just made up to sell ppv. And even in real beef fights, there isnt any other way to resolve it. Thats just how we humans are. If somone beats you in a 1v1 fair and square mma fight. What ever issues you had with him should be gone. The beef is over. Like in street beefs, most if not all real beef fights end in the opponents huging it out or shaking hands. This lady really triggered me lol
"You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" Unless you are capable of great violence. If you are not capable of violence, You're not peaceful, You're harmless"
Jordan Peterson quote?
@@damat9607 Yuuup
you cannot cause harm even if you wanted to or tried. i chose peace today because i know what i am fully capable of and dont want to harm anyone with my glorious power.
Very very silly statement that makes zero sense
@@nycitylifeandhistory It makes perfect sense.
2:52 Yep. The mystery and variance of ko's, it's super interesting. Dude is hooked now.
Ingrid is that one person that always has the "moral high ground"
but doesnt have the balls to say her age
Asking if it's normal human behavior... this kind of activities have been a thing (and a very central one at that) since the dawn of civilization across all continents.
Like, what are you going to do, ban humanity? This has across history and cultures always been a core part of being a human.
Just a very fake person that I'm sure not many enjoy being around
She’s a pacifist but every second sentence of hers was about how this is barbaric and questioning the behavior making it look bad.
In the end when she is like “I believe everyone has good in them” and then makes it look like these athletes are bad people because of their sport.
How can she call herself a pacifist if with every statement or hers she tries to make it look bad to make her look better.
I mean you would be used to this behavior from those weird girls from Highschool or like 14 year olds but for a grown woman to be so into appearance and being right all the time fucks my head up.
She Is the reason people use PR firms.
@@ShinmenTakezou18 it's because shes a weak individual inside and out and can't grapple with the fact that there are people that exist that aren't hindered mentally and emotionally like she is.
The guy was the coolest pacifist I've ever seen
he was almost a pacifist.
He definitely seems like the least confrontational of the pacifists on display.
Some of the others look ready to fight over how pacifist they believe everybody should be.
He's not lolz
Nobody is really a pacifist.
He probably just realized that legal street fighting in a small cage is awesome to watch.
It’s interesting seeing how differently these three people who say they’re the same thing react to MMA, Laura respects it as a sport but has a lot of empathy and worries for the fighters, Zach doesn’t really seem to be trying to push the “pacifist” message but seems to actually enjoy the sport I think he’s just against real violence and brutality like most of us, and Ingrid seems to think she has some moral high ground and that people who watch and enjoy MMA are genuinely weird/wrong and that the fighters are bad people for participating in it and for doing what they do in their fights
Spot on summery
wait till they pick up a history book
@@monke2395 frrrr
I like this comment. Good take.
Ingrid? I thought her name was Karen?
I read this somewhere and can't remember when:
"You can’t truly call yourself ‘peaceful’ unless you are capable of great violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful, you’re harmless."
Maybe you read it when you saw the dozens of comments that already said this
Being a hardline pacifist just tells me you’ve had an incredibly privileged and sheltered life and it’s incredibly aloof to simply dismiss combat sport as “insane” or “unexplainable” like they’re somehow enlightened.
and they have never been faced with real adversity where it was defend yourself or die (or worse).
Sounds like something a ninja would say.
@@jaimeromero7997 his name is Shinobi.
Fr the old woman was making it seem like it was some evil impure sport
Spoken like someone who has never actually talked to a pacifist. Many are ex soldiers or criminals who have seen the error of their ways.
“it’s just not normal is it?”
You’re absolutely right. We as a species have only survived thousands of years through a lack of violence. The same goes for tigers…
fr fighting is one of the most natural things humans can do lol
violence is needed sometimes so yes it is normal
@@siressa3427 exactly I don’t think “no stop it. That’s a bad hitler. Bad hitler!” Would of worked in 1939
@@Gfw36026 true
that's actually what encouraged him to go further into the next phases. Words.. just words.
Yeah I guess that's why there are no laws against assault on people. What a dumb argument. Combat sport is not world war 2.
4:15
"Put yourself in his shoes right"
-"How?"
*kicks her in the face
😂😂😂
LMAO
pow right in the kisser
Brilliant!
😂😂😂😂
I love how they started with the Jorge Masvidal flying knee knockout to Ben Askren 😂😭🤣
Man the older lady has a very twisted sense of morality, I really struggle to understand her at all. It seems she's found a way to believe herself a good person based on an idea that most people grow out of. The character and discipline displayed by the majority of MMA fighters is a much more authentic foundation for any morality than simply 'I don't believe in violence therefore I am good'.
Charles Oliveira's story is a perfect example. Raised in the slums, he spent decades mastering mindful violence to create a better life for himself and so many others in his community. I wonder how her beliefs would tackle that reality if she spent some time learning.
The whole "that's not normal" comment is actually so strange to me. Violence is the most innate thing to not just humans but any animal ever! Compared to that the comfort that allowed a part of the population to be able to deny violence is actually the not normal thing.
They appear to be presenting some of the KOs without context, which doesn't really help the reacters (reactors?) understand the situation.
Regardless, bringing pacifists onto a show called "MMA Reacts" is like bringing someone of an opposing political view onto one of the US "News" networks. You're there to say the wrong things and get dunked on. The ladies seem to be doing alright in this regard. Zach, who has clearly seen a fight or two in his lifetime, is failing at this.
Perfect comment.
You said it absolutely perfectly. She was pissing me off the whole time too. Her comment about how there must be some good in them was completely and totally disrespectful. She doesn't understand what it actually takes to do this for a living. An archaic and, quite frankly ridiculous belief that not believing in violence simply makes you a good person proves she doesn't know much about anything.
I believe in violence to my very core. It is VERY MUCH a part of me, and thats EXACTLY why I respect it so much.
« Only warriors can be pacifists, the others don’t have choice » Sunzi
Sun Zu: I didn't say that shit
Who the fuck keeps quoting random ass shit i never said?
-Sun tzu
He said it or not ,but you have to be a strong and fearless person to be a pacifist and if you are not strong and fearless then you are a coward hiding beyond the veil of pacifism
@@cinakakar197 Man isn't being a pacifist rejecting violence? How is that strong and fearless? The warriors are the ones that are strong and fearless.
@@loprtiok but you cant reject violence if you cant generate violence to begin with. but people who can generate alot of violence but dont are the true pacifists.
Zach: Father Figure (secretly loves fights)
Laura: Mother Figure (cares a lot about the individual fighters and seems genuninely worried)
Ingrid: Mother Theresa (falsely wise, arrogant, ignorant)
I like the difference between Laura’s and Ingrid. Laura is quite sheltered, but she means well, and opposes violence out of genuine concern for others. As far as I can tell, she doesn’t think she’s superior to others.
Ingrid is a pacifist so she can (in her mind) be superior to other people without actually doing anything to improve herself.
Mother Theresa was very good at torture and causing suffering. I can totally see how a pacifist would idolize them. /s Calls sport barbaric, but doesn't even have a proper education .. -sigh-
Yeah Zach is a lowkey fan, pretends like he doesn't watch but probably knows all the fighters.. 😂
@@mackenziebenedict8403 yeah Laura seemed like a sweetheart. Like she understands that its a sport and gets it, but just doesnt like it cause she doesnt like violence. But she isnt bitchy about it as the older lady
The fighters they watched: athletes (blood, sweat, and tears)
4:11 super necessary 😂
Her face when dude says “ it’s all about securing the win” too
"its just not normal, is it?" totally, all our pre-historic pacifist ancestors would be shocked and awed
Underrated comment
I was thinking a similar thing, your the odd one out here lady.. look at history... 😅
"As humans, deep down there must be good in them"
Exactly what im thinking people have done way worse in the past for entertainment at least they dont have swords in a gladiator colosseum
if her ancestors were pacifists, they wouldn't be alive
Being a pacifist only works when everybody else in the room is also a pacifist
More like everybody else on the planet
@@minecraftman6376 Yeah, that's what he said. It's a metaphor.
Nope. You can be a pacifist until the end. Gandhi. And he had a type of courage that's truly uncommon. Moral.
speak softly, and carry a big stick,
@@cygnusx-3217 Gandhi wasn't a pacifist by principle but by tactics. he knew he couldn't beat the british empire in a fight. he's not the saint ppl claim to be
I'm a pacifist and if all conflicts in the world were to be fought in a MMA ring I would be the happiest person in this world. Thank you.
Are you aware what you just said would mean minor conflicts like you accidentally bumping into someone end with a physical altercation? Also there would no legal system because everyone settels their conflicts inside the ring. I am not sure you thought this through.
@@laurean5998 Yeah if you bump into the wrong person you won't wait for the ring to get in a physical altercation even with the current legal system. Go try.
@@laurean5998 i think he meant wars and battles were instead of 100,000's of fathers, sons, husbands, mothers, wifes, daughters dying, it reduces casualties, the best warriors fight the best warriors, its a primative concept as the fate of your people rest on your shoulders and bigger countries can bully every smaller guy as they can train fighters with high tech and diets, trainers, etc. But its a fun concept, like David vs Goliath, it actually has happened before, ancient war had one Warrior from their army fight one warrior from the enemy army and winner wins, neither will lose troops and perserve a lot of peoples life, Duels also come to mind, instead of suing or making an uproar, you defend your honor with a duel, you accept it then youre willing to die and know the risk, even so, the justice system fucks more people than a death match
@@laurean5998 Absolutism does leave holes but I think we all know what he really meant and what specific situations he was referring too.
It also depends on how you define conflict.
@@laurean5998 are you aware that you are taking it way too seriously
3:25 Bro pressed the emote button on accident
Being a pacifist is respectable. Being able to keep your cool in escalating situations and find a peaceful resolve is a very admirable trait. BUT… refusing any kind of violence and refusing to learn any self defense is just irresponsible.
Pacifists are just cowards on high horses. They can pat themselves on the back next to the bodies
Pacifists when I steal all their money (violence is wrong)
Your own safety is your own responsibility. If you are like these people, you're a walking victim at any moment.
Facts facts facts
couldn't have said it any better because evil violence doesn't care what you are
Fascinating. I always forget there are people who completely separate themselves from the realities of life
. . .like jackhammer to forehead with 2020 covid panic.
or they just don't like excessive violence maybe? I myself love fighting, but I understand why some people might not. Go look at the way ufc marketed this in the old day. They'd actually promote someone might die in the cage lol
"There has to be another way to solve this"- lady, it's a goddamn sport... 😂😂
They are called democrats.
@@NobodyNewsNetwork I would ask if you're serious, but I think your name makes the answer clear.
“I’m not a fan of violence, not even to stop other violence” is probably the most privileged, arrogant and ignorant thing I've ever heard. It really shows that she has never experienced any sort of danger ever in her life
Agreed. What happens when she or someone she cares about is being attacked? Just stand by and watch? So noble. Bullshit. She's pretending and is living in fantasy land.
@@michelangelo_6933 Even if she calls the police, she is calling the government to send their armed peacemakers who will use force to alter the situation.
I am strictly anti war. I think it should never be part of politics. Any form of violence and things that glorify this violence should be rather banned or looked very criticly upon on. BUT if there is one side that chooses violence rather by actual physical violence or to surpess people of cause it has to be stopped. I don't go to anti war rallys because i think it would make those who would want a war think different but to make those who oppose it gain strengh.
RFKB did nothing wrong!
@@oskarstobinski4522 all the nations and civililisations were developing in conflicts and violence. If there was no war or violence in all kind people wouldnt change themselves to be stronger therefore they cant develop. War is literally most important part of politics
I dont support wars too but preventing any wars is impossible, people are naturally close to being violent
„I don’t like violence“ - laughing at the first sight of violence 😂
the fact he just caved his skull in then proceeded to roll a pokeball and throw up a peace sign is insane 🤣
ik right
You should see his other fights 😂 he pulled out the infinity gauntlet one time
@@yungcancer3389 i have, but thats legit im bouta look it up 🤙🤙
Yeah, that was a little wild. But I don't think MVP has done in cage celebrations that involve his opponents anymore since then. Probably felt horrible after he found out he actually broke the dudes skull. That was so odd to watch. Cyborg just on the ground writhing in pain he didn't know he could feel, then the dude who did it throw's a pokeball at you. Not a great look.
@@Bonesawisready926 Yes, he didn't know the extent of the injuries and apologized later, if I recall.
I must say that "FUCK OFF HAHAHA ONE KNEE?" is the last reaction I'd expect from a hardline pacifist on the Masvidal v Askren bout. 🤣
Yeah- him at 3:30 had me cracking up- he loved that shit... 😂
'Fair play, what a twat' to the show boater KOed was good too.
Ya know what I think would be a great segment for this channel? To get the same people. or other individuals that identify as pacifists and put em in a room with an MMA fighter, and have the Pacifist ask them questions on why they do what they do and explain to them why they chose MMA as a career.
I think that would make for a compelling video.
Or have an MMA fighter and a "pacifist" with a 3rd party asking them difficult hypothetical questions, like what would you do if you see an old woman getting mugged, and stuff like that.
Have it in an octagon. Not even fighting, just sitting down and chatting inside a ring
YES. Great idea. Someone well spoken would be good to do this type of thing. Michael Chandler comes to mind or even someone like Chael. A classy lady like Valentina Shevchenko or Laura Sanko would be good too.
On the other side of the coin, if you want diehard comedy, get someone like Mike Perry or Sean Strickland to do it. That would be comedy gold 😂
@@pchiethegreat1 get nate diaz lol
@@pchiethegreat1 damn yes, Sean Strickland, Mike Perry, Bobby Green and Wonderboy just to make things fun
The ginger guy flippin loved it 😂😂😅
"Fair play, what a Twat!" is not what I expect from a pacifist - made me chuckle that one.
because he's not one.
I lost my shit at that, too funny haha
@@MrFarquar being a pacifist means you're anti war. It doesn't mean you're a Saint in every aspect of life
pacifist or not if your dealing with a British sports fan twat is a polite insult
"is that normal human behavior?" Most definitely. We are inherently violent and combative and we've turned fighting into a sport since forever. It's probably one of the most natural things about us.
The world was built through violence
And sing in the shower/river/bath.
Yea I know right, obvious example are Roman Colosseums. But the better example are school fights, everyone gathers around and takes out their phones xD... now imagine when the school fights are two skilled opponents.
And also, violence is not inherently bad, though of course in most cases it is not the answer.
@@fantamannenNot disagreeing, but when you get that deep literally nothing is inherently bad. Nature does as nature does.
Being a pacifist is such a strange concept. The fact that you could be so sheltered your whole life to the point of disillusion when a simple mma fight is on is worrying. Hopefully they never see what true violence really is
there is no simple mma fight . they are cte causing activities
@@VARMOT123 You're completely missing his point.
@@VARMOT123 "Simple" compared to war and other much worst sht that goes on in the real world. Tons of sports have high CTE ratio.
@@VARMOT123 cte is much more common in boxing
Just send these people to Rio de Janeiro in Brazil. Let them live in the slums there for a month. Im pretty sure they will rethink their concept of life.
We need a whole series of Zach reacting to UFC knockouts
The 25 year old guy is a fan already. The 25 year old woman is a fan that just doesn't know it yet. The woman in denial of her age still thinks the fights are arranged so the two fighters can settle some sort of argument and there has to be a better way to resolve their disagreements.
:DD
Imagine showing that last woman Sean Strickland interviews😂😂😂
So here's the thing about pacifists you guys
😂😂😂😂😂😂yeaaa
So listen guys here's the thing about pacifists they're blah blah blah blah
Sean Strickland
Only a warrior can choose pacifism.
Everyone else is relegated to it.
GREAT COMMENT. Wish I got to you first. The thought of really hurting someone permanently or killing an innocent makes me physically ill. Yet I have been boxing since I was 7 and now coach as well.
I dont know a single guy who wants a sociopath in their gym no matter how good they are. You take violent troubled kids and men in to teach them discipline and control, but never stone cold psychos. If those kids are great but you think they are going to go out and use it to do even more damage.
They are out and no decent coach wants them
a "pacifist" is someone promoting future enslavement
@@TheNYCGoldenGlover Agreed. I always compare teaching a student how to hurt people better, but neglecting to teach them discipline and morality to giving a child a loaded gun.
Exactly, only strong men can be pacifists. Weak men are just harmless.
@@06capoeirista So if someone’s trying to end your or your family’s life you will do nothing?
6:23 naaah mate, the dude is loving this
“Violence doesn’t solve anything” well good luck having a civilized argument with the burglar who’s invaded your house 😂
Nah them dudes hide in the panic room until dude leave with all their stuff, then they call the cops an show em security footage. if dudes have masks oh and gloves oh well. Why you have renters/property insurance. Personally I'm just gonna shoot ya because I can in this state.
sir put the knife down and stop stabbing me!
or when you get shot due to being a black dude
Don't give them dangerous ideas bro 😂😂😂. You might get them killed 😂😂😂
@@riichobamin7612 "Sir, You are being racist and that's not exactly your fault as American society has a deep rooted internalized racism problem"
The KKK dude: "So, anyway, I started blasting"
The guy is just like my wife, complains every time I turn on a fight and then avidly watches it and cheers them on while pretending she hates it. Armchair pacifist 😂
My mother had a relative who didn't care much for ice hockey. But her eyes would be glued to the screen every time two players dropped the gloves for a fight.
my wife loves it.. I feel sorry for you
Paci"fist"
@@kuroishiroi9012 That was awful, but still funny.
LOL armchair pacifist was the best hahaha
Zach definitely went home and bought every ppv available 💀
That guy just became a lifelong UFC fan
The black lady saying they must not be good people for the simple fact they like to hurt people had me rolling me eyes hard
i mean are they good people`?
@@buba759 Yes, they very well could be. Combat sports build character.
@@buba759 No. Pacifist are all evil because they expect everyone else to do the heavy lifting of protecting society while looking down their noses at everyone else.
@@buba759 if they were bad people they'd be starting random fights in public, instead they go into a ring where both parties have acknowledged the dangers, and the rules that try to prevent life long injuries
Her mindset and people like her run schools, government and tech. They are narrow minded bigots who believe themselves a diety among cavemen.
It always makes me laugh when I see or hear someone say "violence never solves anything" especially when the people that say that live comfortably and securely in communities where violence is literally solving things 24/7.
They pay other people to be violent FOR them, and to make sure to do it out of their sight...
@@MrWayne1701 Exactly. Criticism of the conqueror while enjoying the spoils of victory.
It would be dumb too for basically any country. Your independence was won not just by violence, but by a fuckton of death.
Do people think American slaves were freed because we politely asked?
@@davidmock7592 Preachin' to the choir, David, I always say, if violence doesn't solve your problem, you're not using enough!
@Cheese Fiend I couldn't agree more. Fiend! Who has the superior morality, someone who cowers before evil, or the one who rises up and destroys it?
“Deep deep down I know there’s still good in them” like lady, some of these fighter, actually a lot of fighters do a lot for their communities, charities, and more. Which is a lot more than she’s ever done for her community
now now, she's probably a very descent twitter activist. 😂
I got so annoyed at that. There's only a select few of them who are complete assholes. Most of them are decent and as you said so many do a lot for others. This woman is out of touch with reality
Jon Jones has entered the chat 🤣
I mean... Stipe was the champion of the division with some of the most brutal knockouts (generally speaking) while being a first aid responder and firefighter XD
Guaranteed. She just thinks she has better morals than these fighters which, ironically, makes here a worse person than them.
“I am one of those people who wants to do everything once in their life… apart from , obviously, heroine” 😂😂😂 that came out of nowhere
The lady who said "deep deep deep down there is some good in them", imagine the fighters who donate 10's of thousands of dollars to charity and help their community and she has the audacity to imply they are essentially for the most part, terrible people.
Yeah, saying that was the true violence
Fighters: martial arts saved my life and kept me out of trouble. I want to give other disadvantaged kids in my area the same chance that I had.
Her: But you're really not a good person, are you.
These pacifists are just priviligied people
That was the most telling portion of the video, her implying that being a professional fighter makes someone a bad person. Incredibly shallow and judgemental
She’s just blinded by the violence and dosent understand what the fighters truly are.
Y’all know this man was high key enjoying this my boy was laughing and replaying them 😂😂😂
I think Zach could become a fan... show him more... turn him
Welcome to the hurt club baby👑👑👑👑
Like this
He'll end up being the just bleed guy
"turn him"😂😂😂 that sounds like the Emperor telling Darth Vader to get Luke converted to the dark side
Bring him to the dark side
Jorge Masvidal is the reason why I love that running knee strike😂😂😂
"Because if you're not willing to fight for your love, then what kind of love do you have?"
Such a powerful statement by the man himself
Mr. Wick
A love of peace ☮️
Fight usually does not mean combat in our society, it just means overcoming the adversity
@@Joplas99 Yeah until someone decides to slap your girl's bum or disrespect her in any shape or form
So what's the point of love here mate😂
"Are these normal human beings?" Well, seeing as how combat sports have been a popular fixture in human society for centuries... I'd say yes.
Thousands of years bro! The Romans, the Greeks, Many African countries, nearly all the great civilisations hosted and created their own forms of combat sports.
They aren't normal considering they are peak level athletes.
People think combat sports is just about violence. It’s so much more than that. Combat sports and martial arts is a whole art form and a science at the same time.
In nature Pacifism will usually get you eaten!
At an educated guess we were fighting long before we reached human form
As someone who was a soldier for quite a while I can never quite grasp pacifism. Not everyone is kind and understanding which is when violence is necessary. Only a madman wishes for war but only a naive person isn't ready for it.
Your last sentence is very good bro
As a swiss i am priveledged enough to not have to go to the army. (I did a year of civil service because you can help more people like that, at least in a country that has been "neutral" for centuries now.) But in a more personal way a also wont start a fight with anyone anywhere but i will defend myself if someone chose to attack me. Which gladly has only happend once (being 6'5 230lbs helps a lot there) and that guy was drunk af.
I always want to be ready to survive but never ready to kill someone else, I personally hold no love for my friggin country, but yeah, I'd do anything to protect my loved ones
I may be a pacifist, and would never volunteer for the military, and if I was drafted I would try to get conscientious objector status. That being said, if I went to war, I imagine I would shoot back. Violence itself isn’t inherently good or bad, it’s in how you use it, and I think many people in our society are too immature to use it correctly or see the difference.
It can come from honesty. People that are aware they dont have whats in them to fight back or people that suffered from violence and will not repeat it under amy circumstances
Zach turns as quickly as every MMA fan talking to a non-fan
“Doesn’t seem very brutal, right now they’re just cuddling”
My guy has never been on the bottom in a grappling session
Most people haven't
most people havent, its why alot of newbies never comeback to bjj
neither have i but im not dumb enough to think thats a comforting situation.
Being a "pacifist" is a privilege granted by the massive struggle and battles and bloody wars fought by our ancestors, as well as the entire battle for survival over hundreds of millions of years of evolution leading up to our current "civilized" form
on point
It's not just a privilege bestowed by ancestors but even in current conditions we have rule of law. We trust that we don't have to hunt animals because hunters do that for us. Food doesn't come from the forest, it comes from the grocery store now. We won't get raped or murdered on our way to the store because there is rule of law, and bad people who would do such things know they will be dragged to prison by a government capable of as much violence as possible to make sure they go. Pacifists outsource violence, then look down on the people they outsource it to
Not true, there are many religions that have practiced non violence from pre silk road up to now, there was also a pacifist medic in ww2 that was awarded the medal of honor for his actions on Hacksaw Ridge. Life is more nuanced than you think bro, having a narrow view can blind you to reality.
@@Audio041194 Without all the other men with weapons he would have died pretty quickly.
@@Audio041194 Yes, but these examples exist within the overall framework of human society that has been brought about through violence. If everyone in ww2 acted as the medic did, the war would have been lost, and the temporary peaceful times that we have all taken for granted in the western world would have never come to be. What do you think would have happened to Ukraine, for example, if they just chose the pacifist way. Surely nothing good. Hopefully they win the war and expel the forces that are trying to take them over so that people can exist peacefully and "passively" within their society when it's all over. But none of that will be possible without first fighting (by the way I was in Kiev when the war started). Also why do you feel the need to add "having a narrow view can blind you to reality?" In disagreeing with my point, you are trying (pathetically) to attack me for some reason, without even knowing anything about me. Very strange
"Hate violence, even if it's to stop other violence"
Ah yes, the "zero-tolerance for bullying" approach. So you support violence, as long as it's not the most recent violence.
No. She's just stupid
As long as they don’t see it, they don’t care. It’s disgusting imo
The self proclaimed pacifist black lady makes me cringe when she says “deep down there may be good inside them”. Most of these UFC fighters are humble, disciplined, and respectful people, not straight up warmongers and barbarians from the medieval-age. It’s like she has a premonition that UFC fighters brains are just caveman killing addicted people. These fighters have full respect for each other. Kinda weird when she says that. Anyways I love the dude in the video, maybe a future/secret UFC fan
Fighters and body builders who look and act super aggressive when fighting or working are usually very chill people
Wanted to add on further by stating that most fighters are actually MORE respectful than non martial artists
5:00 well it went from fists, to swords, to guns, and then back to fists.
"Conflict Resolution" in a nutshell
I'm going to be very frank with everyone here: I'm a peace activist. I absolutely hate the concept of war. I went to Iraq and saw atrocities and became disenchanted with violence of all kinds. That said, I'm also a martial artist. I have been involved in MMA since my youth. And the mentality and environment in actual MMA is completely different from the violence we see in war and crime. The people involved are consenting adults, and they are proficient in a skill. To be averse to this sort of sport in such a snooty way is basically a lack in understanding as opposed to a higher understanding. I can't speak for all martial artists, but the folks I've been around have been the most willing to put their own lives on the line before others in order to prevent cruel situations from occurring. To me, this is a form of pacifism that makes the most sense. The whole hemophobic and cringey disposition is essentially childish in my eyes.
that was great bro!
exactly mma isn't violence
Well said, Nic!
well said, exactly what what I was thinking. It's not about 'solving' anything its about honour and humility.
well said my man
“It’s better to be a warrior in a garden, than a Gardner in a war”
I never knew that quote was by him
@@stinkydoober It's not.
Some tentative evidence exists that it may, may have been said by Sun Tzu, but it's uncertain.
i thougth it was by Bruce Lee
Plants Vs. Zombies: Are you sure about that?
@@numaorus LMAOO
The dude laughing when the guy danced and got kicked was hilarious.
That dude has become a fan I guarantee
7:37
I've been doing mma for 3 years.
Met some of the most chill people ever in my gym.
It’s always fascinating how out of touch some people can be… “Violence doesn’t solve anything”. It actually solves a whole lot of things, especially when properly applied 🤷🏻♂️
Trying to steelman his argument, "violence doesn't solve anything" could be applied to something like gang wars, when there's an endless spiral of revenge going on and each side feels justified so it never stops. Of course wiping out the other side completely would solve it...
Yea anyone who says violence doesn't solve anything has never kicked a bully's ass.
Exactly, imagine if ww2 never happend, if no one stood up to hitler with violence. What would the world look like under the rule of nazi germany....they just dont care what violence has done to humanity
@@Mr_Tokon gang violence isn’t proper application, lmao
NOPE!
Bro went from criticizing to analysing the fights😂😂😂
7:08 "I think to myself that, deep deep down inside there's that little bit of good in them. Maybe it's covered up with a whole load of stuff"
Calm down! No-one is being assaulted here. They're not evil. This is all consensual, and any fighter can stop the match at any time by conceding.
And they shake hands after such intense and close fights around 95% of the time. They may disagree with judges but still show respect to their opponents except for few exceptions.
Yeah she was being such a pretentious twat. Both men went into the octogon knowing what was about to happen; what is evil about that ? Pompous b!tch.
It's a person who never fought in her life. She doesn't understand that there is a deep level of respect between fighters. They are not there to kill or do evil.
I promise you that bit ticked me off! Like who does she think she is, she's taking the pacifist role way to seriously that just because someone fights they are now some evil demon.
True and many of them are literally risking their own health fighting to provide better lives for their families
My man has been a fan since 1985 😂😂😂
Should show them a compilation of good sportsmanship, rivals becoming friends, or fighters and their other jobs (like stipe being a fireman).
Great idea
100%
Nice
Yea they're not showing the good side
That’s a great idea two sides to everything not just the violence show the discipline as well
"Put yourself in their shoes."
"How?"
Empathy and open-mindedness. Those things you preach nonstop about
Ok
"Pacifists" are just people who grew up very sheltered and are ignorant to the world around them and how it works
That guy did a terrible job explaining why they have to do that.
She actually had most understanding of the bunch. And to be fair they aren't wearing shoes 😂
@@stevenash621 it shouldn’t have to be explained, they act like they don’t know what it means to compete
MMA fighters: *Fight*
Pacifists: "I don't get it... I'm sure there must be another way to resolve this thing"
What, did you want them to sit down in the octagon and play Rock Paper Scissors?
But there are other ways to resolve it.
Chokes, armbars, kneebars, judge scores, elbows...
@@redclayscholar620 It just seems like if a fighter tried to choke his opponent she'd say "Oh why try to kill him?". And if it had ended in the score cards they probably did beat the shit out of each other either way so she'd still be in shock LOL
Also what are they "resolving"? They're not fighting because they need to solve some sort of problem, they're fighting because they enjoy doing it, they get paid to do it, and their fans enjoy watching them fight. That's the definition of a sport.
@@jeffreydorman8715 My point exactly, she sounds like she just can't fathom the idea that that's a sport, not some people fighting till death or something.
That woman is delusional
“I gotta watch that again” Bluds in love with mma 💀💀💀