To those who say Bane was just a lapdog to Talia and didn’t have a mind of his own seem to forget that she tells Bane to not kill Bruce as she wants him to let the fact he failed to save Gotham to truly sink in. Once she leave him and Bruce alone, he tells Bruce “We both know that I have to kill you now.” He then kicks him to the ground and points a shotgun to his face prepared to kill Bruce, telling him “You’ll just have to imagine the fire” when Selina shoots Bane with a cannon on the Batpod. Also, due to how Bane operates, it’s clear why Ra’s al Ghul didn’t want him to be in the League of Shadows. The League of Shadows in The Dark Knight Rises doesn’t really resemble what it was in Batman Begins. It seems to be more of an organized militia, hellbent on taking over Gotham by a lot more aggressive methods and eventually destroying it with a nuclear bomb. While Talia may be a lot more like her father in her leadership in the sense she’s basically hidden in plain sight, Bane is a lot more brutal and militarized with his. And while the twist of Talia’s reveal may not be to everyone’s liking, I think it works for the film and it doesn’t take anything away from what Bane has done prior to it, considering he was still going to kill Bruce despite the fact she told him not to. Bane is an excellent character and while the Joker perhaps is better overall in The Dark Knight, Bane is able to hold his own and Tom Hardy does not try to outdo what Ledger did and does his own thing with the material he’s given and his performance is fantastic. Thank you for the video, keep up the great work!
I have one question to your point, well said as it was. In the first film, Ra’s was ready to destroy the whole city as well with a gas attack, so I don’t see how you view a nuclear bomb different than a chemical one.
I have studied Bane’s character for years. I was in the theatre when the movie came out and that interpretation of Bane has entered my very soul since then. I believe that your analysis is accurate and insightful. It has been definitely interesting hearing it. Though I think that Bane is more independent minded that you depict him to be. He is indomitable and follows no real leader, except for a low key assistance to Talia, I believe, out of a very well concealed emotional dependence. His views were also too extreme for Rash, which means that he took inspiration from his mission, but used it to rework his own vision of things. Deep inside Bane is independent minded, and not a follower. He’d never simply adopt someone else’s view. He rather shares views or contrasts views, but everything that matters is ALWAYS himself. He is so self confident in his own mindset that he even defies Talia in the final scene “You’ll have to imagine the fire”. Because of this I’d say that is unlikely that Bane could’ve been turned into a force for good (the word good as you intend it) as his beliefs are deeply rooted inside himself and originating from his traumas in the “darkness” aka the pit. It’s in Bane’s nature to ‘take’ and use things (concrete or abstract) to his own purpose, twisting them at need. Bane hates the world and its dynamics in all and for all and his purpose is apocalypse, so the extermination of everything, including his own suicide.
Agree with you completely. Also, I do not believe that Talia was in charge, or the master mind. This was all Bane. Talia was merely a pet being granted a small, emotional victory, in the wake of Banes wrath.
This is the most eye opening analysis I've ever seen! Amazing! So many things I didn't notice. You would think Bane is extremely purposed but this breaks it down beautifully!
Could Bane and Talia be half-siblings? Same dad different mothers. Far fetched i know but it occurred to be recently when I rewatched Rises and how protective he is of Talia and we don't know his parentage. In this movie anyway. Could be Ra's just simply chose not to claim Bane because he was born to another woman but still saved him for saving Talia
Great profile! I think Bane is such an amazing villain and people don’t give the character enough credit. Of course, Joker is great in TDK but Bane helps Bruce’s growth just as well
Must of really hurt him when he was excommunicated by him but it likely hurt him more when Bruce killed him maybe that's why Bane was gonna kill him before the bomb could.
Hardy gave a good performance as this iteration of the character. But by having him acting on behalf of Ra's al Ghul and Thalia robs him of his own agency and identity. Bane in the comics absolutely would not do the bidding of anybody. He’s a man who strives to be in control and dominate wherever he is because he had none in his youth, somewhat similar to Bruce.
Except those elements ARE pulled from the comics. Bane becomes initiated into the League of Assassins at the end of "Bane of the Demon" as a candidate to take over for Ras Al Ghul. Bane actually became Ras's top henchman, until he is defeated by Batman and deemed a failure.
Bane since the very beginning was trying to usurp Ra's throne, as Crimson said he strives to be in control and dominate wherever he is, that doesn't mean he is always in control, but he never lets himself be boss around without planning how to take the top boss, you could say that perhaps in the comics Secret Six is the only moment where he didn't try to become the leader of the group (Haven't read the Tom King comics, when they came out i wanted to buy them, then life happened and i haven't read them), but that's thanks to his weird dynamic with Scandal Savage and it's only when he realizes she can't be the leader, he takes control of the group.
The point is, if you trust ANYONE, no matter how innocent they may seem, your doomed. Bane was awesome by himself. Others brought him down. That's usually the case with anyone.
This was an Incredible Masterpiece Video for My All Time Favorite Version of Bane. Tom did a Phenomenal Performance Bringing This Live Action Version of Bane to Live Action. Even though this wasn’t the first Live Action Version of Bane but this was a Thousand Times Better Than The Version in The Batman and Robin Film.
For those who saw The dark knight rises by Christopher Nolan, Nolan Said that the political message of the Dark knight trilogy failed and people didn't understand it. He emphasized that people didn't listen to Bane Message or the league of shadows. Bane He clearly shows that he hates the Western civilization He uses suicide-bombing tactics He was quoted to have said ''the next error of western civilization'' - not the next error of Gotham, but the whole westernized civilization He came from a pit in the Middle-East, where terrorism is around -He hates corruption and decadence -He wants to expose Gotham ( western civilization) to the people and than give them power to decide for themselves where they stand -He views the " criminals" in the society as victims of corrupted system ran by true criminals that belt this environment that produces decadence which produces mental illness and crimes. -He views Batman as protector of the elites and susastiner of a system that has already failed. -He sees Batman as a fake hero who sustains a system that ran by true criminals and attacks the victims of the system ( like the Joker) I think Nolan took some aspects of Middle-Eastern terrorism (often seen by" radical "Muslims) and applied them to Bane. League of Shadows is certainly Al Qaeda to Nolan and he surely doesn't like the system.
I want to share my dispair with the world and those who truly understand what I went through and what made me who I am and adopt this mindset I find exceptable. The fire rises.
I wonder what Bane's world view would have been like if once out of the pit and healed the league had let him out into the world on his own for him to experience humanity. Would he have been drawn to humanity or would the world have become one big pit because he was so different and returned to the League?
I get that but I always think this critique has been sort of overblown. After Talia directly tries to order Bane in the climax to let Bruce live so he can feel the heat of all of the souls he's failed in Gotham, what does Bane do? He immediately rejects this and states to Bruce, "We both know that I have to kill you now. You'll just have to imagine the fire". That, to me, says it all. Bane is not a lackey or front man of Talia; he's her *collaborator*. They both have their own motives. During the first fight with Bruce, Bane elatedly exclaims, "I AM the League of Shadows" and I believe he means it. He's the face of the League. He's the one that they listen to as zealots. The goon in the prologue willingly lets himself perish in the plane because he believes in Bane. Just as Alfred states, "the power of belief". This is what Bane instills in his people and eventually in the masses. No one listens to Talia in this same manner, as she is the one lurking in the shadows. The two form a perfect team together, which would almost be beautiful in a sense if they weren't mass murderers 😅
I think Bane and his men resemble who Ra's was Before Ra's became a member of the League. Which is why the look like mercenary/ soldiers rather than League ninja's.
“I’m Bane, yes, that's my name When you hear the name Bane, I guarantee the pain I'm coming after you, Bruce Wayne I'm stronger, smarter, and clinically insane”
I can really relate to Bane , and I will tell you why but in short I will try. the man that I once viewed as a male parent did the unthinkable to me that no parent who claims to love their offspring should ever dare do to one they claim to love. he the man went behind my back and " Sold " Me into Slavery only because he wanted to play God with another human being's life and wanted to live my life for me . I do not seek pity from anyone nor do I seek legal help anymore because in this wicked and evil and sinful world I have seen that there is none. our court system is become wicked and evil and sadly from what I've seen Justice has died. so now I numb myself with Anhedonia and have chosen to throw as much as I can my emotions , in other words My Cup of care is empty . so just embracing these awesome quotes from Bane and Joker it comforts me. And I will not let this doomed world and the wickedness of man to break me. Why? Because My cup of care is empty and I personally do not feel the need to justify myself to anyone. !!!! and I have nothing to prove. because people in general they will either like us for who we are and accept us as we are or they will not and those that do hey that's great but those who want to see flaws in us than hey they are gonna see what they wanna see regardless. so everyone here do not let anyone break you ok? because only you know who the real you is. and you have nothing to justify or prove . love ya'll.
I know many people complain about Tom Hardy's Bane, but he put on a great performance as this ruthless, intimidating terrorist leader. However, even though other people have already said this, I don't really like how the movie undermined his character near the end by making Talia al Ghul the true mastermind behind the plot to destroy Gotham, and thus reducing Bane to an accomplice.
That is Bane’s actual original origin. His mother was a criminal as was his father, who had died. But rather give Bane to the system, the prison decided he live out his dead fathers sentence. And so grew up in the prison.
There are many Bane,s in this world and they are truly designed by the government whether it be intentionally or tremendous misuse of power we all one day eat what we plant.. take care how you tend to your garden. How do you prosper when the very thing you take advantage of turns on you. Even the most powerful Fall it is the story of eons greed and thirst for power equal great disaster..... There can be no true despair without hope... And thus creates many characters in us all..
His bicep wouldn't really play much of a role in holding up Batman. His shoulder would be the most taxed part of his body during that. Being able to lift 250 lbs in that manner would likely make you the strongest person on earth. If you've ever lifted weights the movement he does is almost identical to one that targets the front of your shoulder and even 50 lbs is difficult with one arm. On top of that weights don't fight back or move around when you lift them. Batman was, meaning Bane would have quite literally inhuman levels of strength.
Every reason you list in this video is why I still think Bane has never been properly portrayed in any film or TV show to date. Bane is no purposeless henchman, he's a cunning strategist and a force of nature. He took out Batman on his own free will and just to prove he could do it, not because someone told him to.
@@inthemindofavillain you're damn right it didn't, not gonna spoil the whole thing in case you want to watch it, but Bane is used as an assumed mantle for someone who's left crippled just like this version of Bane.
Wrong, the movie explains why he decide to join the league, it’s because he had a crush on her and for being a strong monster nothing could stop him to get what he wants, after ra’s died the league desperately need it a leader so the called him back giving him hope he will approach Talia to have a happy life time with her while they destroy Gotham.
If Bane and Joker was in the same room the knowledge exchange would be awesome
Tom Hardy as Bane, is the same as Heath Ledger as Joker, such an impactful performance
Yes but not as powerful as Ledgers performance
@@venom999333 joker doesn't lick his mouth every 6 seconds and acts autistic while speaking.
*You delivered that line beautifully in Bane's analysis **9:54** 🔥🔥🔥🔥*
To those who say Bane was just a lapdog to Talia and didn’t have a mind of his own seem to forget that she tells Bane to not kill Bruce as she wants him to let the fact he failed to save Gotham to truly sink in. Once she leave him and Bruce alone, he tells Bruce “We both know that I have to kill you now.” He then kicks him to the ground and points a shotgun to his face prepared to kill Bruce, telling him “You’ll just have to imagine the fire” when Selina shoots Bane with a cannon on the Batpod. Also, due to how Bane operates, it’s clear why Ra’s al Ghul didn’t want him to be in the League of Shadows. The League of Shadows in The Dark Knight Rises doesn’t really resemble what it was in Batman Begins. It seems to be more of an organized militia, hellbent on taking over Gotham by a lot more aggressive methods and eventually destroying it with a nuclear bomb. While Talia may be a lot more like her father in her leadership in the sense she’s basically hidden in plain sight, Bane is a lot more brutal and militarized with his. And while the twist of Talia’s reveal may not be to everyone’s liking, I think it works for the film and it doesn’t take anything away from what Bane has done prior to it, considering he was still going to kill Bruce despite the fact she told him not to. Bane is an excellent character and while the Joker perhaps is better overall in The Dark Knight, Bane is able to hold his own and Tom Hardy does not try to outdo what Ledger did and does his own thing with the material he’s given and his performance is fantastic. Thank you for the video, keep up the great work!
Well said 🔥
I have one question to your point, well said as it was. In the first film, Ra’s was ready to destroy the whole city as well with a gas attack, so I don’t see how you view a nuclear bomb different than a chemical one.
I have studied Bane’s character for years. I was in the theatre when the movie came out and that interpretation of Bane has entered my very soul since then. I believe that your analysis is accurate and insightful. It has been definitely interesting hearing it. Though I think that Bane is more independent minded that you depict him to be. He is indomitable and follows no real leader, except for a low key assistance to Talia, I believe, out of a very well concealed emotional dependence. His views were also too extreme for Rash, which means that he took inspiration from his mission, but used it to rework his own vision of things. Deep inside Bane is independent minded, and not a follower. He’d never simply adopt someone else’s view. He rather shares views or contrasts views, but everything that matters is ALWAYS himself. He is so self confident in his own mindset that he even defies Talia in the final scene “You’ll have to imagine the fire”. Because of this I’d say that is unlikely that Bane could’ve been turned into a force for good (the word good as you intend it) as his beliefs are deeply rooted inside himself and originating from his traumas in the “darkness” aka the pit. It’s in Bane’s nature to ‘take’ and use things (concrete or abstract) to his own purpose, twisting them at need. Bane hates the world and its dynamics in all and for all and his purpose is apocalypse, so the extermination of everything, including his own suicide.
Agree with you completely.
Also, I do not believe that Talia was in charge, or the master mind.
This was all Bane.
Talia was merely a pet being granted a small, emotional victory, in the wake of Banes wrath.
I love this channel. It's very brilliant and well researched. Always enjoy the contents about psychology and villains!
This is the most eye opening analysis I've ever seen! Amazing! So many things I didn't notice. You would think Bane is extremely purposed but this breaks it down beautifully!
4:09 - Very insightful summation of Bane's worldview. I've watched this multiple times now.
Bane was so close to be a Fantastic Villain but the Talia Twist wasted his Potential.
Babe is my favourite Batman villain 🐷
I think it worked for the movie but it’s not really true to the charecter
I know this is an asshole thing for me to say but:
no need to capitalize fantastic, villain, or potential.
Otherwise, I agree!
Agreed. He's always been my favorite Batman villain and loved Tom Hardy's role in TDR. But that Talia twist wasted his potential.
@@theangelproductionsshow respect to Professor Pyg
Could Bane and Talia be half-siblings? Same dad different mothers. Far fetched i know but it occurred to be recently when I rewatched Rises and how protective he is of Talia and we don't know his parentage. In this movie anyway. Could be Ra's just simply chose not to claim Bane because he was born to another woman but still saved him for saving Talia
No because bane & ras were about the same age.
Remember he is seen coming into the prison for revenge
7:58 I honestly can't help but wonder if Bane and Wilson Fisk should have a contest to see who's stronger.
Great profile! I think Bane is such an amazing villain and people don’t give the character enough credit. Of course, Joker is great in TDK but Bane helps Bruce’s growth just as well
BANE - Alone is the reason I will invest my time in actually watching it💯💯💯
Ya the novelation really hammered home how he saw raz as a father figure
Must of really hurt him when he was excommunicated by him but it likely hurt him more when Bruce killed him maybe that's why Bane was gonna kill him before the bomb could.
Hardy gave a good performance as this iteration of the character. But by having him acting on behalf of Ra's al Ghul and Thalia robs him of his own agency and identity. Bane in the comics absolutely would not do the bidding of anybody. He’s a man who strives to be in control and dominate wherever he is because he had none in his youth, somewhat similar to Bruce.
Indeed.
Except those elements ARE pulled from the comics. Bane becomes initiated into the League of Assassins at the end of "Bane of the Demon" as a candidate to take over for Ras Al Ghul. Bane actually became Ras's top henchman, until he is defeated by Batman and deemed a failure.
Bane in the comics robs himself of his agency through his venom addiction. A lot of his actions are driven by that dependence.
Bane since the very beginning was trying to usurp Ra's throne, as Crimson said he strives to be in control and dominate wherever he is, that doesn't mean he is always in control, but he never lets himself be boss around without planning how to take the top boss, you could say that perhaps in the comics Secret Six is the only moment where he didn't try to become the leader of the group (Haven't read the Tom King comics, when they came out i wanted to buy them, then life happened and i haven't read them), but that's thanks to his weird dynamic with Scandal Savage and it's only when he realizes she can't be the leader, he takes control of the group.
The point is, if you trust ANYONE, no matter how innocent they may seem, your doomed. Bane was awesome by himself. Others brought him down. That's usually the case with anyone.
Excellent video
😭😭😭 that made me cry just like with big jack horner you dug out a lout of sudle subtext I completely missed
Subtext received loud & clear👁️🧏🏽♀️📡
This is awesome.
Bane was a pure good man turned pure evil. He wanted the rest of the world to know how it feels to be him.
This was an Incredible Masterpiece Video for My All Time Favorite Version of Bane. Tom did a Phenomenal Performance Bringing This Live Action Version of Bane to Live Action. Even though this wasn’t the first Live Action Version of Bane but this was a Thousand Times Better Than The Version in The Batman and Robin Film.
For those who saw The dark knight rises by Christopher Nolan, Nolan Said that the political message of the Dark knight trilogy failed and people didn't understand it. He emphasized that people didn't listen to Bane Message or the league of shadows.
Bane
He clearly shows that he hates the Western civilization
He uses suicide-bombing tactics
He was quoted to have said ''the next error of western civilization'' - not the next error of Gotham, but the whole westernized civilization
He came from a pit in the Middle-East, where terrorism is around
-He hates corruption and decadence
-He wants to expose Gotham ( western civilization) to the people and than give them power to decide for themselves where they stand
-He views the " criminals" in the society as victims of corrupted system ran by true criminals that belt this environment that produces decadence which produces mental illness and crimes.
-He views Batman as protector of the elites and susastiner of a system that has already failed.
-He sees Batman as a fake hero who sustains a system that ran by true criminals and attacks the victims of the system ( like the Joker)
I think Nolan took some aspects of Middle-Eastern terrorism (often seen by" radical "Muslims) and applied them to Bane. League of Shadows is certainly Al Qaeda to Nolan and he surely doesn't like the system.
1) Great great analysis.
2) I would love to know where can I get this awsome background sound!
great work on Bane hope you'll cover Vecna from "Stranger Things"
I want to share my dispair with the world and those who truly understand what I went through and what made me who I am and adopt this mindset I find exceptable. The fire rises.
Great job.
I wonder what Bane's world view would have been like if once out of the pit and healed the league had let him out into the world on his own for him to experience humanity. Would he have been drawn to humanity or would the world have become one big pit because he was so different and returned to the League?
As a fan of dc comic this is probably the closest you’ll get to the real bane
Tom hardy will done sir
Bane is great but he loses a lot of his appeal when he's revealed to be Talia's front man.
Agreed,having him have his own motives after helping her escape would've made him way more interesting
I get that but I always think this critique has been sort of overblown. After Talia directly tries to order Bane in the climax to let Bruce live so he can feel the heat of all of the souls he's failed in Gotham, what does Bane do? He immediately rejects this and states to Bruce, "We both know that I have to kill you now. You'll just have to imagine the fire". That, to me, says it all. Bane is not a lackey or front man of Talia; he's her *collaborator*. They both have their own motives. During the first fight with Bruce, Bane elatedly exclaims, "I AM the League of Shadows" and I believe he means it. He's the face of the League. He's the one that they listen to as zealots. The goon in the prologue willingly lets himself perish in the plane because he believes in Bane. Just as Alfred states, "the power of belief". This is what Bane instills in his people and eventually in the masses. No one listens to Talia in this same manner, as she is the one lurking in the shadows. The two form a perfect team together, which would almost be beautiful in a sense if they weren't mass murderers 😅
Bane is fascinating
I think Bane and his men resemble who Ra's was
Before Ra's became a member of the League.
Which is why the look like mercenary/
soldiers rather than League ninja's.
12:24 Freestyle Bane
“I’m Bane, yes, that's my name
When you hear the name Bane, I guarantee the pain
I'm coming after you, Bruce Wayne
I'm stronger, smarter, and clinically insane”
"THE MAN WHO BROKE THE BAT" More from Batman's Rogues Gallery.
Bane!!!!! Forever Bane!!
Bravo!
I would love it if the video creator contacted me regarding the theme music, it would be greatly appreciated🙏
I can really relate to Bane , and I will tell you why but in short I will try. the man that I once viewed as a male parent did the unthinkable to me that no parent who claims to love their offspring should ever dare do to one they claim to love. he the man went behind my back and " Sold " Me into Slavery only because he wanted to play God with another human being's life and wanted to live my life for me . I do not seek pity from anyone nor do I seek legal help anymore because in this wicked and evil and sinful world I have seen that there is none. our court system is become wicked and evil and sadly from what I've seen Justice has died. so now I numb myself with Anhedonia and have chosen to throw as much as I can my emotions , in other words My Cup of care is empty . so just embracing these awesome quotes from Bane and Joker it comforts me. And I will not let this doomed world and the wickedness of man to break me. Why? Because My cup of care is empty and I personally do not feel the need to justify myself to anyone. !!!! and I have nothing to prove. because people in general they will either like us for who we are and accept us as we are or they will not and those that do hey that's great but those who want to see flaws in us than hey they are gonna see what they wanna see regardless. so everyone here do not let anyone break you ok? because only you know who the real you is. and you have nothing to justify or prove . love ya'll.
You should make a video about alpha from the walking dead
I know many people complain about Tom Hardy's Bane, but he put on a great performance as this ruthless, intimidating terrorist leader. However, even though other people have already said this, I don't really like how the movie undermined his character near the end by making Talia al Ghul the true mastermind behind the plot to destroy Gotham, and thus reducing Bane to an accomplice.
4,000 calories my a** , he’s twice my size and my maintenance is north of 3K 😂
Fr probably like 7k calories
That is Bane’s actual original origin. His mother was a criminal as was his father, who had died. But rather give Bane to the system, the prison decided he live out his dead fathers sentence. And so grew up in the prison.
Still, we cannot say that absolutely all about him is and or negative. At least I can't.
I still like the character too
@@inthemindofavillain, ok. Good to know.
There are many Bane,s in this world and they are truly designed by the government whether it be intentionally or tremendous misuse of power we all one day eat what we plant.. take care how you tend to your garden. How do you prosper when the very thing you take advantage of turns on you. Even the most powerful Fall it is the story of eons greed and thirst for power equal great disaster..... There can be no true despair without hope... And thus creates many characters in us all..
Can you do ivan vanko
Bane was the League’s Hulk
Nolan did Bane ugly by having a woman pull his strings. Ruined the film
My Top 3 Tom Hardy's Best Roles
1st Venom
2nd Bane
3rd Max Rockatansky
Have you seen Warrior, the MMA drama
He also played an interesting antagonist in Star Trek: Nemesis as Picard's clone Shinzon.
Bronson 🥶
His bicep wouldn't really play much of a role in holding up Batman. His shoulder would be the most taxed part of his body during that. Being able to lift 250 lbs in that manner would likely make you the strongest person on earth. If you've ever lifted weights the movement he does is almost identical to one that targets the front of your shoulder and even 50 lbs is difficult with one arm. On top of that weights don't fight back or move around when you lift them. Batman was, meaning Bane would have quite literally inhuman levels of strength.
Every reason you list in this video is why I still think Bane has never been properly portrayed in any film or TV show to date. Bane is no purposeless henchman, he's a cunning strategist and a force of nature. He took out Batman on his own free will and just to prove he could do it, not because someone told him to.
I haven’t seen the iteration in the Gotham TV series but from your comment I’m guessing it didn’t turn out too good either.
@@inthemindofavillain you're damn right it didn't, not gonna spoil the whole thing in case you want to watch it, but Bane is used as an assumed mantle for someone who's left crippled just like this version of Bane.
What about CIA?
Now do magneto 😁
Bane seems to be sympathetic towards women because of what he saw in prison. He let Catwoman live
Bane and Zemo (MCU) are evil monsters with no purpose.
Stull tiny bane
The music is too intrusive.
Batman is the real villain. He fights for the very system that created Bane and criminality.
Bane was a Marxist.
Wrong, the movie explains why he decide to join the league, it’s because he had a crush on her and for being a strong monster nothing could stop him to get what he wants, after ra’s died the league desperately need it a leader so the called him back giving him hope he will approach Talia to have a happy life time with her while they destroy Gotham.
Bane was a pawn. We found out he did everything all for the love for a woman lol
wrong