Sympathy for the Villain.

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  • Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
  • Villain: the worst guy...
    0:00 Taijitu
    1:19 Evil
    3:25 Friend to Feind
    4:21 Man vs. Self
    6:23 Man vs. Monster
    7:55 Man vs. Machine
    9:10 Man vs. Order
    13:01 Student vs. Master
    15:32 Man vs. Idol
    17:35 Antagonists & Protagonists
    18:09 Man vs. Society
    22:20 You Complete Me.
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  • @jakeb8914
    @jakeb8914 3 роки тому +8674

    "Zuko felt more pain than any other character in the show"
    Are you seriously forgeting that cabbage seller?

    • @mr.darkchocolate1674
      @mr.darkchocolate1674 3 роки тому +92

      You are at 69 likes so even though I would like I cant

    • @CanadianRM4
      @CanadianRM4 3 роки тому +328

      "MY CABBAGESSS!!"

    • @eni170
      @eni170 3 роки тому +147

      Dat poor man
      Each day his cabbages gets destroyed

    • @bee-zz6bf
      @bee-zz6bf 3 роки тому +90

      ik this is a joke but op REALLY said that a dude who had an abusive father had worse pain than: a child whose entire people, family, and culture completely wiped out, a girl whose mother died and almost had HER culture wiped out, a boy whose father left him to go to war and had to be raised by sister. i know zuko was a complex character with complex pain but oh my GOD

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 3 роки тому +110

      Nah it’s toph when she senses what happens in sokka’s tent

  • @boodyjacob9322
    @boodyjacob9322 3 роки тому +33032

    Zuko was the villain because we were watching the show from Aang's point of view.
    But if we watch the show from the cabbage merchant's point of view, Aang's the true villain.

    • @devnathhansda6738
      @devnathhansda6738 3 роки тому +1019

      Bro you have to see "Attack on Titan"

    • @gavin7841
      @gavin7841 3 роки тому +753

      @@devnathhansda6738 what does aot have to do with this

    • @einname220
      @einname220 3 роки тому +1324

      @@gavin7841 I think he is talking about the current state with eren and how the tables turned
      a bit far fetched haha

    • @Eddie-yv1ix
      @Eddie-yv1ix 3 роки тому +986

      Cabbage man, the greatest character ever

    • @thejungle6232
      @thejungle6232 3 роки тому +79

      True

  • @addeum7766
    @addeum7766 Рік тому +5299

    After watching hundreds of video essays, I have learned a single fact: Avatar has an example for every subject.

    • @eberlix
      @eberlix 9 місяців тому +61

      even something along the lines of: how to write bad main characters? Because I don't see that being the case ;)

    • @addeum7766
      @addeum7766 9 місяців тому +48

      @@eberlix it is very common to use opposites of stated views in essays to point out their flaws and show examples of what not to do, so it can be used as a manual on what not to do when making a bad main character.

    • @eberlix
      @eberlix 9 місяців тому +6

      @@addeum7766 But then an Avatar main character is still being used as an example of how to write a good main character, and not as a example of how to write a bad main character.

    • @BossAchilles
      @BossAchilles 8 місяців тому +33

      Avatar is such a perfectly made show. Watch at any age and you will still wnjoy

    • @crystalwoolf
      @crystalwoolf 7 місяців тому +9

      @@eberlixnah they would use Legend of Korra for that video essay

  • @ScrambledAndBenedict
    @ScrambledAndBenedict Рік тому +3392

    You know one of the most brilliantly subtle things about Zuko? Even in his very first appearance he establishes himself as noble, albeit in a very subtle way. He non-lethally takes down Sokka rather than just burning him to a crisp, and he actually honors his agreement to leave the Water Tribe in peace if Aang surrenders. Before we know quite literally anything about him, they've established he has a code of honor.

  • @soldierfriendisimmortal7081
    @soldierfriendisimmortal7081 3 роки тому +7984

    "Childhood is when idolise batman, Adulthood is when you realise cheese is expensive"
    -A comment I've read somewhere.

  • @khu5hi509
    @khu5hi509 3 роки тому +12894

    dr. doofenshmirtz is also a villain that comes to mind. he was just a man who was so hurt and deprived of his family's love, which caused him to turn to the "bad" side. even though it's a kids' show, they really did make a great villain who we could sympathize for and love in a way.

    • @georgeuferov1497
      @georgeuferov1497 3 роки тому +767

      The thing is - doofenshmirtz is not actually a villain, he's just as much a protagonist as Perry, maybe even more

    • @obi-wankenobi2851
      @obi-wankenobi2851 3 роки тому +45

      Yup

    • @simperorbubba_link8441
      @simperorbubba_link8441 3 роки тому +471

      He is a wholesome man who is obsessed with the idea of being a villain, but even then he limits himself to only the tri-state area

    • @tyukiarctic6626
      @tyukiarctic6626 3 роки тому +45

      or better, kingpin from spiderman that scene where miles defeats him in the spider verse is amazing

    • @talahari2441
      @talahari2441 3 роки тому +61

      Even though he's a villain, he cares for her daughter

  • @auwalismailsulaiman605
    @auwalismailsulaiman605 Рік тому +1205

    Zuko shouting "strike me. you never held back before" was extremely telling even before his redemption arc

    • @SuperRavensfan101
      @SuperRavensfan101 11 місяців тому +73

      In that moment, he seems to yell out for the pain to finally assist him for once instead of hurting him in trying to bend lightning to his will, only for the universe to not answer his calls once again.

    • @paperhat_boi
      @paperhat_boi 10 місяців тому +9

      @@SuperRavensfan101 that was hella gud shakespear

    • @thegoldendiamond6762
      @thegoldendiamond6762 8 місяців тому +1

      I ship Zuko and Azula

    • @makita12345
      @makita12345 7 місяців тому +7

      @@thegoldendiamond6762 you remember that they are brother and sister, right

    • @viivv6230
      @viivv6230 7 місяців тому +7

      @@thegoldendiamond6762 obvious bait ☠️

  • @antonmoritz5699
    @antonmoritz5699 Рік тому +1470

    I’ve always found the narrative of Zuko to be painful. Ironically not because of his scar, but because of the sheer amount of emotional trauma he undergoes. His humanity is evident, yet he consequently makes attempt to undermine it. He tries to convince himself that his options are limited until he gives in to his inevitable triumphant empathy. Truly terrific piece of fiction. Art, even.

    • @ladywaffle2210
      @ladywaffle2210 Рік тому +13

      A bit like Dracula from Castlevania; his biggest flaw as a villain is that he's not as big a monster as he thinks he is.

    • @TheRealHelvetica
      @TheRealHelvetica Рік тому +13

      You say that but like…
      Yeah, even I liked Azula more than Zuko cause while Zuko is a hero on the wrong side… Azula knows she’s wrong but continues anyway.

    • @orange1293
      @orange1293 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@TheRealHelveticayeah i do believe zuko is a good example to use for the essay but I really thought it was even more important to go over azula's character arc and tragedy. our sympathy for zuko is never questioned as he ultimately becomes part of the protagonists, but the complexities of azula's character would have been way more interesting to go over for the "true" sympathy for the villain.

  • @mechailreydon3784
    @mechailreydon3784 3 роки тому +3490

    If only every villain had an uncle Iroh in their lives..

    • @martinfreemon7134
      @martinfreemon7134 2 роки тому +180

      Everybody needs an uncle Iroh in their life. Hell, I need one.

    • @roiroije6326
      @roiroije6326 2 роки тому +78

      I have a friend who is basically the Uncle Iroh of my life and I have such a powerful urge to make her proud that it's not even funny.

    • @OGKidMelee
      @OGKidMelee 2 роки тому +9

      Your 100% right

    • @sainbaatar518
      @sainbaatar518 2 роки тому +6

      azula has uncle iroh though

    • @OGKidMelee
      @OGKidMelee 2 роки тому +12

      @@sainbaatar518 well. Yes but no. Iroh agreed with Zuko about azula being crazy. So they teamed up to try to take her down

  • @radwanabdalla7437
    @radwanabdalla7437 3 роки тому +1453

    "Villains are a necessary evil."
    Shows a picture of Leafy's banner

    • @giornogiovanna5214
      @giornogiovanna5214 3 роки тому +109

      But hey that’s just a theory a game theory.

    • @subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234
      @subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 3 роки тому +56

      Well I'm disappointed he didn't mention Ice king from Adventure time in this video

    • @ArnoldRandom
      @ArnoldRandom 3 роки тому +81

      @@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 It’s funny how we as a kids just think he is just a stupid villain who is there just for laughs and giggles... until we find out about his past. It’s pretty smart of the creator, kids are watching and we grow up along side the characters while learning one by one on why they act this way.

    • @nachosNipples
      @nachosNipples 3 роки тому +6

      @@giornogiovanna5214 forgot the very necessary comma there, sir.

    • @peck3328
      @peck3328 3 роки тому +5

      @@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 don’t forget mega mind, it’s a kids movie but it shows how there needs to be balance with a villain and hero.

  • @LordAndFailure
    @LordAndFailure Рік тому +594

    "We're all just one bad day away." - Joker

    • @Polskie573
      @Polskie573 2 місяці тому

      killing joke 2016 yes?

  • @RJKilroy
    @RJKilroy Рік тому +416

    I really appreciated the dramatic irony in Fletcher's impossible standards: The types of music in which he specializes were invented to be fluid and prone to improvisation, and yet he won't accept anything other than perfect adherence to what's on the sheet.

  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 3 роки тому +4410

    This made me realize
    most Ghibli Films have conflicts but doesn't really have a Villain

    • @rossmcdonagh1554
      @rossmcdonagh1554 3 роки тому +305

      Almost everyone has some reason to be sympathetic towards them and they still manage to write incredibly compelling stories

    • @nathanielwindsor7679
      @nathanielwindsor7679 3 роки тому +288

      except castle in the sky
      "haha yes I will use the power of laputa to conquer the world because... reasons!"

    • @rossmcdonagh1554
      @rossmcdonagh1554 3 роки тому +30

      @@nathanielwindsor7679 Ill put my hand up and admit im no aficionado of the Ghibli films :') I'll take you word for it and do some... reasearch ? :'D

    • @m_winewood
      @m_winewood 3 роки тому +325

      Its always seemed to me that ghibli movies are more about overcoming inner conflict and the hardships of life than fighting another person. To me they feel like pixar for adults.

    • @rossmcdonagh1554
      @rossmcdonagh1554 3 роки тому +38

      @@m_winewood I agree from what I've seen the endings are often much less important to the story than the pivotal moments of character development along the way

  • @Fefe65800
    @Fefe65800 3 роки тому +1656

    5:13 "there's no doubt that Zuko is the one who suffered the most in the serie."
    Cabbage man: hold my cabbages.

  • @rubensanchezramirez7028
    @rubensanchezramirez7028 Рік тому +441

    Zuko is not a villain, but an antagonist (not evil, just misguided and with interests opposed to those of the protagonist), the villain in the story is Ozai

    • @basiosrasian225
      @basiosrasian225 Рік тому +24

      Zuko works as the villain for Season 1 atleast.

    • @baylis5489
      @baylis5489 11 місяців тому +12

      I always thought of Zuko more as a Byronic hero. Iroh’s presence always made me root for Zuko even if he’s meant to be the antagonist at the beginning. The show isn’t really structured as a single narrative anyway. Zuko has his own narrative of which he is the protagonist even to the viewer while Azula falls directly as the antagonist in Aang’s personal narrative, Zuko’s personal narrative, and the overarching narrative of the world’s struggle against the fire nation. As the three narratives converge in the back end of the show Zuko is a clear cut protagonist aiding in the defeat of Ozai and Azula as well as offering redemption for some of Katara’s more controversial decisions made out of ignorance in the final season. I think start to finish Zuko is painted as a protagonist in some light which is why I can classify him as a Byronic hero.

    • @OtakuUnitedStudio
      @OtakuUnitedStudio 9 місяців тому +1

      He starts as a villain but becomes a hero. He realizes the flaws of his outlook and changes.

    • @liammcnicholas918
      @liammcnicholas918 2 місяці тому

      That’s what’s known as a reformed villain.

  • @user-qj3em4qj6s
    @user-qj3em4qj6s 11 місяців тому +259

    "sometimes the people we hate the most are the ones we fooled ourselves into loving" thats deep asf

    • @EFG.
      @EFG. 6 місяців тому +1

      Jet Noises*

    • @choppalungon
      @choppalungon 4 місяці тому

      thomas edison for me

  • @TrueUnderDawgGaming
    @TrueUnderDawgGaming 3 роки тому +8995

    Many believe Yin and Yang is good vs evil.
    When in reality, it is Order vs Chaos

    • @purplepoet6147
      @purplepoet6147 3 роки тому +1383

      In a way it's *also* good vs. evil, and light vs. dark, and water vs. fire, and soft vs. tough. It is the ultimate embodiment of thing needing opposites to exist. Without a concept of darkness, light would be meaningless.

    • @mikoi7472
      @mikoi7472 3 роки тому +492

      Very few people really regard it in either of those manners actually. It's more about dualism, the concept of Yin needing Yang and vice versa.
      In fact, Yin is characteristic of femininity and negativity, and Yang is characteristic of masculinity and positivity.

    • @WolfyRed
      @WolfyRed 3 роки тому +5

      132 likes
      nice,

    • @notbrandon9012
      @notbrandon9012 3 роки тому +48

      It represents the bad in the good and the good in the bad

    • @deanrensberger631
      @deanrensberger631 3 роки тому +37

      "in reality"

  • @AmbitionMusic
    @AmbitionMusic 3 роки тому +27699

    Zuko truly does have the best redemption arc for a villain 😭

    • @ibuk9631
      @ibuk9631 3 роки тому +70

      @Names Don't Matter no

    • @hagan2003
      @hagan2003 3 роки тому +192

      No cap

    • @adog3418
      @adog3418 3 роки тому +66

      @@ibuk9631 -cap

    • @Chillgamesh
      @Chillgamesh 3 роки тому +364

      I never actually saw him as an actual villain

    • @Journeyagain0
      @Journeyagain0 3 роки тому +260

      He's the most interesting character and my favorite character in the whole The Last Airbender show.

  • @jweber6547
    @jweber6547 Рік тому +227

    I absolutely love that an 8-bit cover of “Sympathy for the Devil” is playing in the background of the portion on evil

    • @gosseschukken2018
      @gosseschukken2018 Рік тому +7

      I went to the comments looking for this exact comment and I’m glad someone else noticed it :)

    • @dasauto1555
      @dasauto1555 4 місяці тому +3

      also at 21:00 the "whiteroom" cover goes hard too

  • @SchwabGames2014
    @SchwabGames2014 Рік тому +362

    "Monsters are born too big, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy." - Ishiro Honda.
    54 likes, goes well with the fact that Ishiro Honda said this quote in 1954. The year of Godzilla's birth

    • @nevaehhamilton3493
      @nevaehhamilton3493 Рік тому +4

      It's not a tragedy to us.

    • @elfascisto6549
      @elfascisto6549 Рік тому +3

      @@nevaehhamilton3493 how is getting your entire neighborhood wiped out by gojira's atomic breath not a tragedy ?

    • @justasoulsfan9805
      @justasoulsfan9805 8 місяців тому

      Tbf, Godzilla was fine until mankind dropped atomic bombs on his habitat. Godzilla attacking mankind was an act of rage and revenge in most versions.

  • @TheZebbga
    @TheZebbga 3 роки тому +11434

    "My Father used to tell me that Azula was born lucky and that I was lucky to be born"

    • @minecraftveteranyoda4476
      @minecraftveteranyoda4476 3 роки тому +615

      That line hit me hard when I first watched

    • @TheZebbga
      @TheZebbga 3 роки тому +441

      @@minecraftveteranyoda4476 Yeah, it is a great line. It does so much for Zuko, Azula and Ozai. Like it sets up the kind of person Ozai is even more so and also lets us know Azula is powerful while also showing how tragic Zuko's life is.

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 3 роки тому +336

      Azula: “My own mother called me a monster! She was right of course, but it still hurt!”

    • @TheZebbga
      @TheZebbga 3 роки тому +81

      @@Flome810 I mean if we are doing Avatar quotes we will be here all day.

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 3 роки тому +95

      @@TheZebbga Then I better go ask uncle iroh to make some jasmine tea

  • @puddsanimations1756
    @puddsanimations1756 3 роки тому +4453

    We often root for heroes as kids and sympathise with the villain as adults, so you know you’ve made a great sympathetic villain like Zuko when you understand him as a kid aswell

    • @AlphaTengua
      @AlphaTengua 3 роки тому +54

      not me i always favored the villains or at least, the darker characters seen as psycho evil (but not?) dangerous insane damaged goods loser etc etc.

    • @rossmcdonagh1554
      @rossmcdonagh1554 3 роки тому +103

      You are forgetting all the edgy kids who say they like villains to seem quirky :'D

    • @whathell6t
      @whathell6t 3 роки тому +99

      @@rossmcdonagh1554
      Except Zuko is not edgy. He is serrated.

    • @Ketsui.
      @Ketsui. 3 роки тому

      *root

    • @duatia5315
      @duatia5315 3 роки тому +8

      *heroes, not hero’s. Hero’s is possessive, heroes is the proper spelling in this context.

  • @YouOnlyIiveTwice
    @YouOnlyIiveTwice Рік тому +126

    This is why I love the Kobra Kai show. It took characters from a classic "good vs bad" movie in the 80s and explored how the characters' stories were much more complex than what was originally shown on the surface.

    • @dragb9284
      @dragb9284 4 місяці тому +1

      Excellent example

  • @molly6954
    @molly6954 7 місяців тому +40

    convinced avatar was made solely for video essay youtubers

  • @seraphica6539
    @seraphica6539 3 роки тому +4695

    An antagonist is not necessarily evil, but just opposes the ideologies of the protagonist.

    • @palereaper
      @palereaper 3 роки тому +13

      Edgelord

    • @nbanextlegend7497
      @nbanextlegend7497 3 роки тому +476

      @@palereaper He just said the definition of an antagonist,he ins't a edgelord

    • @palereaper
      @palereaper 3 роки тому +9

      @@nbanextlegend7497 i disagree

    • @palereaper
      @palereaper 3 роки тому +7

      @sayunoqué hate? all I did was call them an edgelord

    • @palereaper
      @palereaper 3 роки тому +2

      @sayunoqué that’s what you think

  • @springtimung5567
    @springtimung5567 3 роки тому +2550

    I Heard somewhere about this topic it said " *The world treated Joker badly so he decided to treat it the same The world treated Batman badly so he decided that no one will be treated like he was* "

    • @Cynwale
      @Cynwale 2 роки тому +105

      Sadly for Batman, by protecting Society you help it destroying lives.

    • @Graveyard55
      @Graveyard55 2 роки тому +42

      Most of us wish we were like batman, but we know that we are the joker

    • @jockeyfield1954
      @jockeyfield1954 2 роки тому +268

      @@Graveyard55 nobody wants to be either
      batman is a brooding, sad, self destructive man, willing to give up everything to protect the innocent and complete the mission. he does this so often that his own sidekicks, the people he's fought by, don't want to be like him, some of them even hate him. if you see batman for the symbol he is, anyone would want to be him, but if you see batman for the person he is, nobody wants to be him.
      the joker is a lunatic that kills for chaos and attention. all he wants is for batman to break his sense of morality and kill him. i don't care how insane you think you are, nobody wants to bring someone down by their own death. the joker you're talking about isn't the joker you want to be like, the joker you're thinking of is, though.

    • @brentlolacher3000
      @brentlolacher3000 2 роки тому +12

      @@jockeyfield1954
      Peach.

    • @Extremezotako
      @Extremezotako 2 роки тому +2

      Pog

  • @bigpictureguys8415
    @bigpictureguys8415 8 місяців тому +13

    “The difference between a hero & a villain is how they respond to pain.”

  • @ThatHandleIsntAvailable
    @ThatHandleIsntAvailable 7 місяців тому +34

    I'm here because there was a dude on a couch, and he picked this video to watch.

  • @tjjusttj4580
    @tjjusttj4580 3 роки тому +1585

    "villains are made not born"
    "heroes are only good if you watch from his point of view,watch the villains point of view and you will understand him more"

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 3 роки тому +7

      @Shinra Tensei
      So we should understand the POV from villains like these:
      ua-cam.com/video/15J39c0U9bc/v-deo.html 4:20
      ua-cam.com/video/ZMeKFH5ZbRo/v-deo.html

    • @LaloSalamancaGaming42069
      @LaloSalamancaGaming42069 3 роки тому +19

      Thats bullshit
      They always are trying to kill people only cuz they wanna

    • @hopingstare8980
      @hopingstare8980 3 роки тому +11

      @@LaloSalamancaGaming42069 no

    • @cindyaurum1983
      @cindyaurum1983 3 роки тому

      @@LaloSalamancaGaming42069 ua-cam.com/video/YzfUj-m2I6I/v-deo.html

    • @LaloSalamancaGaming42069
      @LaloSalamancaGaming42069 3 роки тому

      @@hopingstare8980 yes they do

  • @darthdarkborg3857
    @darthdarkborg3857 3 роки тому +1858

    "Good is a point of view, Anakin"- psychopathic killer, beloved politician, Sheeve Palpatine

    • @bayareasportsfan04
      @bayareasportsfan04 3 роки тому +134

      What makes this even better is that Palpatine didn't make Anakin turn into Darth Vader. He simply showed Anakin the door, and Anakin willingly walked through

    • @darthdarkborg3857
      @darthdarkborg3857 3 роки тому +86

      Interestingly enough, because Ankain didn't kill Padme, and by the time he killed Obi- wan they weren't close, and because u have to kill someone close to u to become a sith, Anakin was never a true sith lord

    • @bayareasportsfan04
      @bayareasportsfan04 3 роки тому +10

      @@darthdarkborg3857 Very true indeed

    • @darthdarkborg3857
      @darthdarkborg3857 3 роки тому +4

      Lol I'm such a ner

    • @darthdarkborg3857
      @darthdarkborg3857 3 роки тому +3

      Nerd

  • @honeysunday
    @honeysunday 8 місяців тому +28

    Chigur is such an interesting and phenomenally crafted villain and No Country for Old Men has left me feeling like no movie has before

    • @lummy3180
      @lummy3180 8 місяців тому +1

      i found him so completely irregular. not like in a way where he is random, but in a way it’s impossible to understand his mentality from a real world and rational perspective.

    • @ilovetweek000
      @ilovetweek000 4 місяці тому

      I absolutely did not have any empathy for him, considering the fact that i am not a deranged psychopath, but yeah he was a really good villain

    • @Quesitarelle
      @Quesitarelle Місяць тому

      Book's good too

  • @Tripod9648
    @Tripod9648 Рік тому +6

    By far, one of the best videos on UA-cam. I just love videos were the focus is lost, but the same time keeps you hook the entire way to the end.

  • @glendogdangler
    @glendogdangler 3 роки тому +3444

    “Everyone has a time bomb cleverly hidden in their patience”

    • @The_Sunny_One
      @The_Sunny_One 3 роки тому +85

      That and “Hi, Zuko here,”

    • @thepepperronin6845
      @thepepperronin6845 2 роки тому +124

      Having been a patient before, I am now incredibly concerned there's a bomb in me somewhere.

    • @1999yasin
      @1999yasin 2 роки тому +15

      @@thepepperronin6845 Underrated Comment

    • @thanurs
      @thanurs 2 роки тому +6

      Quotes are magical

    • @bont980
      @bont980 2 роки тому +4

      Is this quote from a show or something or not

  • @MolfredoSascha
    @MolfredoSascha 3 роки тому +2152

    Media was "worried" Joker will have violents acts during screen plays... Fun Fact: Frozen 2 had more violent act during screen play than Joker

    • @Gr3nadgr3gory
      @Gr3nadgr3gory 3 роки тому +314

      That's because nobody could let that movie fucking go.

    • @LoydAvenheart
      @LoydAvenheart 3 роки тому +110

      okay but frozen didn't have a guy getting his brains blown out

    • @3kojimbles895
      @3kojimbles895 3 роки тому +216

      @@LoydAvenheart there were machete attacks in a showing of frozen 2 tho

    • @Gr3nadgr3gory
      @Gr3nadgr3gory 3 роки тому +188

      @@LoydAvenheart that's only because I didnt have to suffer thorough it with you.

    • @lost7149
      @lost7149 3 роки тому +45

      @@Gr3nadgr3gory lmao

  • @DiscountWaifu
    @DiscountWaifu Рік тому +4

    always been one of my favorite channels, Lemon these videos are amazing and helps me show people our generations view on things because truly your insights are so relateable and it helps me discover new things to watch!

  • @monacle7467
    @monacle7467 7 місяців тому +16

    Ive rewatched this video more times than i can count, truly one of the best video essays ever made on youtube

  • @sagittariusaquarius5033
    @sagittariusaquarius5033 2 роки тому +6955

    I'm surprised you didn't mention how in Megamind, the "villain protagonist" tried to create a hero after the last one died, purely because if he didn't have a hero to fight, his life was effectively meaningless.

    • @muzanjackson5199
      @muzanjackson5199 Рік тому +127

      Same I was also surprised

    • @marizuge2800
      @marizuge2800 Рік тому +48

      memento mori

    • @chrisjones9132
      @chrisjones9132 Рік тому +87

      Morality is at its very core is quite objective. It comes from respect for another's existence.

    • @squirtleislife1312
      @squirtleislife1312 Рік тому +129

      That same movie treats nature vs nurture, and how a good person can be pushed to become a "villain" despite not being what would birng them happiness while a person with and unremarkable sense of justice is forced to become the hero from the weight of expectations

    • @hpswagcraft
      @hpswagcraft Рік тому +4

      it be like that sometimes

  • @quantumvideoscz2052
    @quantumvideoscz2052 3 роки тому +1575

    "Evil villains tend to be forgettable."
    Palpatine: It's treason, then!

    • @wspann1967
      @wspann1967 3 роки тому +129

      Vader clearly overshadows him in public perception though

    • @quantumvideoscz2052
      @quantumvideoscz2052 3 роки тому +98

      @@wspann1967 Yes, but you feel tons of sympathy for Vader. Palps? He's JUST evil. No sad story, no relatable background, no nuance, just unapologetically evil,

    • @quantumvideoscz2052
      @quantumvideoscz2052 3 роки тому +45

      @PewDie-Ton EX Legends. That very few have read and are now not canon. For all general audiences, Palps is just evil, while Vader was only like that in A New Hope, in Empire, you learn who he is and in Return, he turns good again, more or less. And the Prequels are all about him and his suffering as Anakin.

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq 3 роки тому +13

      Only if you have a charimsatic villain with a fun personality, like you just gave an example of.

    • @aparajitamishra5074
      @aparajitamishra5074 3 роки тому +5

      TEND to be, not always. There are tons of villains who are just bad. Taking the example of A:tLA, Ozai was just pure bad;no layers no reason, he was just bad.

  • @mimi5769
    @mimi5769 Рік тому +76

    I think feeling empathy for the villain is a big proof of high empathy

    • @longhairdontcare122
      @longhairdontcare122 9 місяців тому +6

      Especially one who's harmed you. It's something I fail at.

    • @soysource3218
      @soysource3218 6 місяців тому +2

      @@longhairdontcare122
      Forgiveness is the path of maturity.

    • @lukesoles9649
      @lukesoles9649 4 місяці тому +2

      And also big proof of maturity.

  • @Hossyboy420
    @Hossyboy420 Рік тому +8

    Quite frankly you make the best content on UA-cam. How you present information is unlike any other channel.

  • @thekingdedede
    @thekingdedede 3 роки тому +5362

    Waluigi is the most relatable villain, everyone has a bit of wah in them.

    • @estlin2001
      @estlin2001 3 роки тому +62

      saying that implies he's a villain at all

    • @thekingdedede
      @thekingdedede 3 роки тому +24

      @@estlin2001 Well, as Emp talks about with Prince Zuko, we are viewing almost everything in the Mario franchise from Mario's point of view but if we were to view it from Waluigi's perspective, Mario is the real villain.

    • @SloppyJoe1100
      @SloppyJoe1100 3 роки тому +8

      God can't be a villain

    • @antoniodunbar1643
      @antoniodunbar1643 3 роки тому +4

      @@thekingdedede I'm not caught up on his lore soo how exactly is he a villain to wah?

    • @thekingdedede
      @thekingdedede 3 роки тому +9

      @@antoniodunbar1643 Waluigi really isn't a villain, I'd say he's a combination of Prince Zuko and Syndrome, just trying to seek acceptance and appreciation but ultimately gets rejected by the world. "Wah" is also just a sound Waluigi makes and is popular for.

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread 3 роки тому +4333

    "See, now you respect me. Because I'm a threat"
    I've been doing UA-cam for a decade now and my god is that line ever appropriate for some of the people in this line of work. Some people look at UA-cam as such a numbers game that they won't give you the time of day until they believe you're within striking distance of them
    I'm not talking about when a UA-camr doesn't reply to another one, everyone gets too busy. I can't reply to every message I get. I'm talking about when someone is actively dismissive to a smaller UA-camr until they're the same size, then suddenly pretend like they were friends. You wouldn't believe how many people suddenly wanted to pretend like they were always great to me as soon as I took off.

    • @mikeyvesperlick6982
      @mikeyvesperlick6982 3 роки тому +32

      You know about the maker of Bayonetta? It's that way for a reason and it should be that way because it forces people to become notorious as well. People who have a lower value than somebody else should not waste the higher-ups time unless the higher up is ok with it

    • @MahDryBread
      @MahDryBread 3 роки тому +339

      @@mikeyvesperlick6982 People do not have lower value because they have less career success. I'm the same man as I was before I got big on UA-cam, and I'm proud of who I am.
      I absolutely refuse to believe that I'm better than someone just because my channel is bigger. It's an incredibly immoral and short sighted way to judge someone. Judge them by the content of their character, not their popularity or material wealth.

    • @mikeyvesperlick6982
      @mikeyvesperlick6982 3 роки тому +19

      @@MahDryBread The latter statement moreover applies to monarchs and masters of their useful craft as in nutritional science, engineering, agricultural knowledge, etc, but you only have more subs than others because you either played your cards better, have played more, or the fact that you have played at all.

    • @mikeyvesperlick6982
      @mikeyvesperlick6982 3 роки тому +8

      @@MahDryBread You know that it is hard to argue that a lack of action is the ultimate sin right

    • @number1granolahfan889
      @number1granolahfan889 3 роки тому +17

      @@MahDryBread Holy shit I was just watching one of your videos when I got this in my notifications.

  • @joshuadeleeuw
    @joshuadeleeuw 6 місяців тому +3

    i've watched this so many times and this always always tears me up. thanks for being such a great storyteller.

  • @vitoriorositoschoenardie2482
    @vitoriorositoschoenardie2482 5 днів тому +1

    the transformation of the main character into the hero is incredible, but the transformation of the antagonist into the villan and how relatable it can be is frightening

  • @ArcadeAssassin
    @ArcadeAssassin 3 роки тому +14964

    Dude your voice is so calming please narrate my funeral

    • @ciswhitememe
      @ciswhitememe 3 роки тому +84

      Hello Among Suser

    • @alfalfa8168
      @alfalfa8168 3 роки тому +18

      this

    • @Kadz
      @Kadz 3 роки тому +63

      Hello Mr Assassin

    • @jos26
      @jos26 3 роки тому +7

      Among suser

    • @axlr1029
      @axlr1029 3 роки тому +98

      Imagine EmpLemon narrating your funeral and he has a downwards spiral half way through and just starts screaming about Twitter, demonetization and whatever the fuck Simian Jimmy is doing

  • @mothmyszalgo
    @mothmyszalgo 3 роки тому +1905

    "man vs society"
    HE SAID IT, HE SAID THE THING

  • @christopherbolanos2480
    @christopherbolanos2480 Місяць тому +1

    This is probably one of my favorite video essays of all time. You went above and beyond to describe why villains are the way they are, and it shows greatly with the best video and sound ending for a UA-cam video. The end of the video made me tear up a bit. It is probably the most relatable perspective men in society face, and it's finally becoming more noticeable.

  • @gblikas
    @gblikas 8 місяців тому +37

    “we are free to choose our own antagonist based on our beliefs and attitudes of the world” - that hits so hard.

  • @nickplayz9726
    @nickplayz9726 Рік тому +11034

    "the joker terrifies us not because he kills people, but because he makes us enjoy watching him kill people."
    that shit is pure poetry.

    • @arbitarious
      @arbitarious Рік тому +137

      Yeah I definitely don't agree, idk maybe I'm just sane

    • @kuroiya3824
      @kuroiya3824 Рік тому

      @@arbitarious Youve never seen someone get got in a show or movie and thought "fucking finally, cunt deserved it!"? Joffrey anyone?

    • @D0BR0VECE
      @D0BR0VECE Рік тому +17

      This two 👆 are full of it.

    • @D0BR0VECE
      @D0BR0VECE Рік тому +13

      @Ddtrdctrdcgrdcgrdc The first one deleted. Duh

    • @D0BR0VECE
      @D0BR0VECE Рік тому +2

      @Ddtrdctrdcgrdcgrdc You apparently. 🤷

  • @Hyurno
    @Hyurno 3 роки тому +5108

    Now say this to twitter's cancel culture LOL

    • @ladyvader2648
      @ladyvader2648 3 роки тому +485

      Truth. I've seen people cancelling fictional villains LOL.

    • @v0id_d3m0n
      @v0id_d3m0n 3 роки тому +53

      @@ladyvader2648 NO please😂

    • @arpitbesra9271
      @arpitbesra9271 3 роки тому +78

      @Super Crackers apology video

    • @greentheryno6376
      @greentheryno6376 3 роки тому +170

      @Super Crackers Well, Mongols are the exception; maybe he'll dig himself out of his own grave and start T-posing in front of Twitter HQ.

    • @kitsuneakage22
      @kitsuneakage22 3 роки тому +4

      No esperaba verte aca Hyurno

  • @chassy7072
    @chassy7072 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are incredibly insightful and entertaining and i honestly struggle to think of anything like them on this platform. Wow good work

  • @jakov051
    @jakov051 Рік тому +1

    I just feel the need to say congratulations for this vieo! The point, the arguments, the editing.... Everything felt perfect and I completeli agree with you, Bravo!

  • @jenjoe4359
    @jenjoe4359 3 роки тому +2671

    Probably my favourite version of yin and yang in fiction is Batman and joker: both had 1 bad day, both used it as motivation, one for evil, one for good.

    • @haydencrowe3024
      @haydencrowe3024 3 роки тому +177

      Well the Joker literally said that Batman completes him

    • @nataliewebber3139
      @nataliewebber3139 2 роки тому +93

      They complete each other

    • @X-SPONGED
      @X-SPONGED 2 роки тому +88

      One For Chaos, One for order
      Not necessarily good or evil

    • @jockeyfield1954
      @jockeyfield1954 2 роки тому +34

      actually, batman's direct opposite is killer moth. many people forget that killer moth is actually the yin to batman's yang since he's a bit of a joke character from the silver age of comics while joker is from the gruesome golden age

    • @chel9157
      @chel9157 2 роки тому +17

      Literally they are. Both of them are completely insane but they are yet completely different people and they turned out completely different

  • @bradcalizaya4196
    @bradcalizaya4196 3 роки тому +1527

    "I'm the Joker baby"
    -the Joker baby

  • @poze2010
    @poze2010 8 місяців тому +3

    That video is pure ART. The montage, the transistions, the way each point is captivating, the end. Bro you are so good

  • @WrangleMcDangle
    @WrangleMcDangle Рік тому +13

    This is why I love George R R Martin so much. He truly understands how to write heroes, villains, and grey characters. He famously says (originally a Faulkner quote) that "the only thing worth writing about is the human heart in conflict with itself" and I could not agree more. The conflict of human heart is what drives all great characters. The way he describes writing his characters is as enlightening as this video is, I highly recommend anyone interested to watch some interviews where he talks about morality and character writing.

  • @ChamChamRealSmooth
    @ChamChamRealSmooth 3 роки тому +2113

    One villain I'll never feel sympathy for is UA-cam...

    • @draknordragor4778
      @draknordragor4778 3 роки тому +42

      yea but thats a different kind of villain :p

    • @Solotocius
      @Solotocius 3 роки тому +154

      Media in general tbh... They show themselves as the hero while they're the worst of villains...

    • @dylanthesea2976
      @dylanthesea2976 3 роки тому +33

      Twitch robbed me of a lot of money, so I personally dislike them more. But YT has done shit to me even, and it's getting worse as time goes on.

    • @undeadwerewolves9463
      @undeadwerewolves9463 3 роки тому +6

      It’s faceless and inhuman.

    • @vurified
      @vurified 3 роки тому +1

      Top 5 most evil Anime Villians ever

  • @stuffz1757
    @stuffz1757 2 роки тому +8576

    The way the media acted towards Joker (2019) made the actual movie so much better. The elite will gleefully watch an entire nation burn to the ground, but loses their shit when even a hint of animosity is directed their way.

    • @sidlukkassen9687
      @sidlukkassen9687 2 роки тому +273

      Like some black influencer celebrity encouraging the Black Lives Matter protesters to riot, then when the mob reached his street he started tweeting for "these animals to get the hell out". Most gratifying media of that year.

    • @om3g4z3r0
      @om3g4z3r0 2 роки тому +245

      Simple and accurate, the truth.

    • @astrospect
      @astrospect 2 роки тому +264

      Its even more funny because the Joker is a socialist wet dream revenge film.

    • @omnipotentbanana1576
      @omnipotentbanana1576 2 роки тому +216

      Joker is overrated, it is not as insightful or transformative as it pretends to be when you look at its writing and story. And i personally believe that parasite, the movie that won the Oscar that year was a far better social critique and a better movie in general. However i will say that Joaquin Phoenix's acting was an amazing accomplishment and a career high.

    • @omnipotentbanana1576
      @omnipotentbanana1576 2 роки тому +105

      @@astrospect The elites are not socialist. They are soulless capitalists carrying a face of progressivism in order to subdue the public

  • @Slamboni4k
    @Slamboni4k Рік тому +17

    I remember this video as a turning point in Emperor Lemon's career, which is an incredible oddity, as in how he went from making YTPs to rants about his YTP career to an incredibly successful, trendsetting genre of cinematized thesis'. Truly, EmpLemon is one of a kind.

  • @victoriaguzman7126
    @victoriaguzman7126 2 місяці тому

    this was one of the best videos i’ve seen on youtube. usually i get interested in a video like this and then get bored. this kept me engaged throughout the entire video. bravo!!

  • @TortaEnthusiast
    @TortaEnthusiast 3 роки тому +689

    Imagine how kickass this dudes presentations were in school

  • @yousufrazwan9583
    @yousufrazwan9583 2 роки тому +2452

    "Those who are heartless, once cared too much..."
    ~Davy Jones

    • @nicke9012
      @nicke9012 2 роки тому +15

      Dark spyro:agree to disagree.

    • @Mark3nd
      @Mark3nd 2 роки тому +47

      "Once you realize your mistakes, it turns to acceptance and correctness"

    • @henrycrabs3497
      @henrycrabs3497 2 роки тому +11

      Sounds like something a 13 year old "depressed" white girl has in their Instagram bio

    • @Dingy-doodles
      @Dingy-doodles 2 роки тому +32

      @Henry Crabs the law of the internet, if a philosophy is even mildly dark, it is edgy and dumb

    • @foopadr9076
      @foopadr9076 2 роки тому +6

      Nope. Wrong.

  • @LeafTreez
    @LeafTreez 8 місяців тому +1

    Honestly this is one of my favorite video essays because it’s so well made, and passionate. I come back to rewatch this video whenever I need inspiration for my own creative writing.

  • @apotheoser
    @apotheoser Рік тому +1

    This was the first video i watched by Emplemon, i've been hooked with his amazing videos ever since

  • @TheShuckmeister
    @TheShuckmeister 3 роки тому +4203

    Honestly, villains are some of my favorite characters, mostly because they have the most fun in any given story.
    And if you think about it, UA-cam would consider Emp a villain so...

    • @MREXE
      @MREXE 3 роки тому +35

      I agree

    • @bigbluburry7450
      @bigbluburry7450 3 роки тому +47

      yea good villains always make you route for them a little bit

    • @helko1
      @helko1 3 роки тому +140

      A sure sign of the degeneration of society but it's understandable, villains and anti heroes exhibit flaws and vices which are all too relatable to us given that we're all imperfect.
      Rather than idolise perfection and characters with virtues we now continue to seek comfort in relatability for those as imperfect as ourselves.

    • @eelek2365
      @eelek2365 3 роки тому +62

      I mean the villiain can often have more motivation for something than the hero, whose main purpose is just to stop him.
      *ahem* Funny Valentine

    • @ryanpalmer7443
      @ryanpalmer7443 3 роки тому +44

      I've always liked villians more because they always have so much character than the brainless "I'll stop you!" heroes

  • @N0TYALC
    @N0TYALC 3 роки тому +2246

    Correction: the media wasn’t fearing violence caused by the Joker movie. They were trying desperately to encourage someone to do something violent.

    • @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
      @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong 3 роки тому +281

      Gotta get those clicks per minute on their articles.

    • @henrylansing9734
      @henrylansing9734 3 роки тому +262

      If whatever the hell the media is about is heroic, I want to be as villainous as possible. They are the greatest enemy to the people in our time, as a certain recent president once said. I don't even care if people like or hate him, I just saw him as a kind of breath of fresh air from the totalitarianism of the institutions that govern us (I know he was partially in the water with them, but at least he wasn't fully submerged. They've made that clear for 6 years now).
      Basically, I wish the left and right would just go joker mode, hold hands for a second, and focus on the true enemy rather than tearing each other up at our own expense and to the delight of soulless oligarchs.

    • @mayonnaiseguggler9425
      @mayonnaiseguggler9425 3 роки тому +137

      @@henrylansing9734 I seriously don’t know why people even defend them like I’ve seen people trash on fox and defend cnn as a reputable news source when they are both trash and started race riots last year during summer and divided America

    • @Chevronato
      @Chevronato 3 роки тому +54

      I wouldn't be surprised if that's what their mission. Tragedies have always been used as ratings boosters for the media in general. If they can use those incidents to bully people to spread their false realities while boosting their ratings, then no wonder the American media has devastating lack of trust from the public.

    • @mudfishnick9768
      @mudfishnick9768 3 роки тому +22

      Like that one song so excellently says:
      The news just LOVES dirty laundry

  • @RitikButWriting
    @RitikButWriting 4 місяці тому

    Damn, what a great video. Everything from your analysis of the psychology of these characters to the music, scripting and the editing were amazing. 10/10 video.

  • @ddjerqq
    @ddjerqq 7 місяців тому +5

    amazing video, saw a tiktok about "looking for something to watch while eating:" and the dude showed this video, so out of curiosity I searched it up, did not regret it, became a patron after watching it. The quality of the video was very good, we need more content like this on the platform! one of the best creators on here fr

  • @UDSArchive
    @UDSArchive 2 роки тому +3529

    “Villains are a necessary evil.”
    *shows leafy*

    • @UDSArchive
      @UDSArchive 2 роки тому +99

      😐

    • @UDSArchive
      @UDSArchive 2 роки тому +38

      Watch a UA-cam video about it or something bro

    • @Mellon-Collie
      @Mellon-Collie 2 роки тому +156

      @Israel100israel he shits on people while playing csgo surf servers

    • @MinerDiner
      @MinerDiner 2 роки тому

      timestamp?

    • @UDSArchive
      @UDSArchive 2 роки тому +9

      22:50

  • @notgoingtokillyou_
    @notgoingtokillyou_ 3 роки тому +1602

    "as much as we hate them, villain's are a necessary evil"
    being said as leafy pans across the screen
    is the funniest shit I have seen

    • @Dman9fp
      @Dman9fp 3 роки тому +20

      Batman would have to beat up innocent bystanders or something. Wouldn't be a demand for a super anything lol, and thus people would take advantage of that (thus the cycle is constantly fluctuating, happens all the time in predator and prey species, happened a bunch with numbers of pirates and merchant ships, and must be similar phenomena/ cycles in business world)

    • @thebelen2359
      @thebelen2359 3 роки тому +5

      Villains are only necessary because there are other villains

    • @awemowe2830
      @awemowe2830 2 роки тому +12

      @@Dman9fp Oldschool batman directly killed the really bad guys, he didn't deliver them to the police, and there's also this guy, don't remember what he did or what he's called, but he's got him locked up for life, in a dark cell in a sewer somewhere
      batman isn't (wasn't?) always purely good, the end used to justify the means

    • @chuckchime8401
      @chuckchime8401 2 роки тому +1

      Couldn't agree with you more.

    • @torgeirmacqueen8226
      @torgeirmacqueen8226 2 роки тому +2

      Lol yeah, caught me of-guard

  • @Railgun5
    @Railgun5 Рік тому +1

    Fascinating analysis as always EmpLemon!
    I learned a lot today.
    Loved the Leafy reference.

  • @Kiposlol
    @Kiposlol Рік тому +2

    wow this video was truly incredible, thank you.

  • @queenkiara3355
    @queenkiara3355 3 роки тому +2022

    when we were younger we use to think that squidward was the rude, annoying person and now that we’re older we now relate and understand why squidward acted the way he did towards patrick and spongebob

    • @spookymcskeleton4110
      @spookymcskeleton4110 3 роки тому +26

      This!

    • @justinambru8529
      @justinambru8529 3 роки тому +31

      He was talking about the older episodes.

    • @zk0rned
      @zk0rned 3 роки тому +99

      He acts that way no matter his environment is and you weren't supposed to want to be like him. You were supposed to see Squidward as what happens when you dwell in pessimism and nihilism

    • @fellowgoyimwhite7630
      @fellowgoyimwhite7630 3 роки тому +78

      @@zk0rned Yeah,but its like Benson with Mordecai and Rigby,we relate and root for them,but if you see it right,benson clearly has reasons to be angry at them because of mord and rigboy actions,just like spongebob and Patrick that are annoying af.

    • @starrsmith3810
      @starrsmith3810 3 роки тому +12

      He did some things to deserve karma......and then there was plenty of cases where he wasn’t even in the wrong

  • @Bxrry
    @Bxrry 3 роки тому +3680

    What a satisfying video

  • @hutki_shira
    @hutki_shira Рік тому +2

    This is one of my most favourite videos so much work was put into this

  • @maureenhoward7733
    @maureenhoward7733 6 місяців тому +3

    Sympathy for the Villan was amazing. Got me reflecting on why I struggle with movies like Whiplash and No Country for Old Men. Well done. Thank you.

  • @maglev_
    @maglev_ 3 роки тому +987

    “Villains are a necessary evil” *shows picture of leafy*

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 3 роки тому +9

      Tell that to David in The Last of Us

    • @cmilfurlani3605
      @cmilfurlani3605 3 роки тому +52

      idubbbz and ethan probably woudn't be the same if he hadn't existed, also keem

    • @cleantoad4332
      @cleantoad4332 3 роки тому +4

      @Mercury okay buddy

    • @thischannelexistsforsomere9584
      @thischannelexistsforsomere9584 3 роки тому +2

      Yes that sure did happen in the video.

    • @sdaspo4909
      @sdaspo4909 3 роки тому +18

      @@chrisye1733 But it was entertaining as hell with actual drama not just UA-camrs being revealed to be pedophiles and fake conflicts or breakups that no one gives a shit about

  • @SrPelo
    @SrPelo 3 роки тому +10851

    Emp, seriously, you are one of the biggest quality channels, your comentary videos about taboo things is glorious.
    The reason I love villians is because they have a background, and I need to thank you for making this!

    • @merkquavious2
      @merkquavious2 3 роки тому +48

      same man

    • @taibhse5886
      @taibhse5886 3 роки тому +79

      Sr Pelo 👀

    • @theraymunator
      @theraymunator 3 роки тому +162

      You know Emp has outdone himself when motherfucking Pelo compliments him without any sort of mockery.
      Just genuine admiration for the content.

    • @cultleaderofmonke4758
      @cultleaderofmonke4758 3 роки тому +10

      But damn this video really is good

    • @sid6645
      @sid6645 3 роки тому +4

      Ahaha "Tabu"

  • @robobo1726
    @robobo1726 10 місяців тому +4

    I’m slowly realizing all the amazing videos I’ve remembered watching throughout the years are mostly yours, notably your never ever video about Hungrybox and Nascar video about that track in Alabama, and my respect has grown even more when finding out this one was you too 😂

  • @jaegerbomb269
    @jaegerbomb269 Рік тому +2

    Loved your use of Sympathy for the Devil and Rock'n Roll Part 2.

  • @ActuatedGear
    @ActuatedGear 3 роки тому +903

    "What exactly is evil?"
    EVERY VILLAIN IS LEMONS!!!

    • @jockeyfield1954
      @jockeyfield1954 2 роки тому +21

      still can't believe dc ripped off the origin story of red hood from barnacle man

    • @inary682
      @inary682 2 роки тому +4

      9

    • @jocosesonata
      @jocosesonata 2 роки тому

      Straight facts.

  • @makka21
    @makka21 3 роки тому +794

    "I'm just like you, Reiner"

    • @coke.3823
      @coke.3823 3 роки тому +44

      finally someone said it

    • @slyfox466
      @slyfox466 3 роки тому +8

      Rainer mit AI ganz wichtig

    • @kio7320
      @kio7320 3 роки тому +2

      Ah yes

    • @nopsinops7547
      @nopsinops7547 3 роки тому +7

      @@slyfox466 Haider etzala überall am Start?!?

    • @freetek23
      @freetek23 3 роки тому +5

      @@slyfox466 ​Etzala rügg mal n stügg!
      Guter Geschmack, 10/10 Ofnekäse. Dadsächlich sogar

  • @saurabtw8767
    @saurabtw8767 Місяць тому +1

    Still genuinely one of the greatest videos ever created

  • @apollostudios7181
    @apollostudios7181 11 місяців тому +2

    this is one of those youtube videos that go so in depth that it makes all of social media look worse.
    Not even joking, One of the best youtube videos ive ever watched.

  • @UkieKooki
    @UkieKooki 3 роки тому +3412

    This is why I love villains! Everything mentioned is spot on! Maybe this is the reason why I love villains because they think they are protagonists of their own story.

    • @kasrkin100
      @kasrkin100 3 роки тому +24

      This make anime villian in both akamegakill and MHA

    • @kingawesome5219
      @kingawesome5219 3 роки тому +20

      If you like villains because of that, you should look about Megatron or some of the Decepticons in the IDW Transformers comics

    • @UkieKooki
      @UkieKooki 3 роки тому +34

      @@kingawesome5219 Not just them! Magneto, Dr. Doom, and Mr. Freeze are just a few villains that I can think of right now! This may be why I always considered whenever they said "YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME!"

    • @kingawesome5219
      @kingawesome5219 3 роки тому +1

      @@UkieKooki What was Dr Doom about?

    • @UkieKooki
      @UkieKooki 3 роки тому +27

      @@kingawesome5219 There's this comic about Doom's tragic history because his mother is a witch and she sold her soul to Mephisto, the literal devil in Marvel, so he learns both science and magic during his adult years. After obtaining the suit of armor, he returned to Latveria, his home country, and created a resistance because the ruler of the country is making everyone poor while he becomes richer from their expense. After overthrowing the ruler, Doom became Latveria's new ruler and made the country into a paradise of prosperity, freedom, and security. But Doom still remembers his mother and so he went on a mission to try and save his mother so he tries to create portals in order to go to Mephisto's realm and save his mother. Doom challenges Mephisto and he accepts but it came with a price. Whenever Mephisto defeats Doom, his people will slowly hate him and fear him. So stubborn as Doom is, he gets defeated by Mephisto over and over. Keep in mind that Mephisto is in his strongest when he's in his realm. So Doom enlisted the help of Dr. Strange to save his mother. Doom and Strange succeeded but when Doom's mother entered the mortal realm, she became very evil. With Doom's multiple defeat from Mephisto, Latveria grew to hate him and that's how Doom became an authoritarian dictator in the eyes of his people. I don't want to spoil the whole ending but I really do recommend reading it yourself or watch a youtube video about the comic because it is really good and really sad on Doom's part.

  • @UncleAlShow
    @UncleAlShow 3 роки тому +6076

    Your videos are so profound. Consistently blown away by the level of quality.

    • @jerrysmith8624
      @jerrysmith8624 3 роки тому +17

      Couldn’t have said it better myself

    • @cykablyatman6242
      @cykablyatman6242 3 роки тому +13

      Collab maybe?

    • @dirtegarbage
      @dirtegarbage 3 роки тому +22

      Too bad its probably demonetized as soon as he uploads it

    • @polandsgarden
      @polandsgarden 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah uncle maybe you should consider I think the same of you. Ur content is great I love both of ur channels.

    • @justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569
      @justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569 3 роки тому +1

      Uncle Al same with yours

  • @nvlmt_aka
    @nvlmt_aka 9 місяців тому +1

    This video is a masterpiece. Thank you !

  • @ronnymorts
    @ronnymorts Рік тому +2

    New to this channel and absolutely love it.
    Joker is one of my favourite movies and the That's Life scene is perfect

  • @trash-gang
    @trash-gang 3 роки тому +2046

    exactly

  • @stardustcoffee248
    @stardustcoffee248 2 роки тому +2775

    Everybody's talking about Zuko but don't forget Azula. All the wanted was to be loved, and instead her father put too much on her shoulders. She thought her mother saw her as a monster and her friends betrayed her. And all of that led down to a mental breakdown.

    • @berkeihlamur4160
      @berkeihlamur4160 2 роки тому +186

      She believed in her father's path. She controlled people around her with Horror. She would either be the Power Maniac or Lunatic. And we all se she turned out to be a lunatic.
      Azula is one of the pure evils in the ATLA with his father Ozai. It's no surprise we see her mental breaks down since she didn't have a strong will and mind like her father.
      Sozin was Chad. He faced against Avatar Roku for his ideals. Azula never had to make such a choice to make her strong. So she become a "Virgin". But Zuko, he always made choices that have harsh consequences which made him a Chad.

    • @fayolbien8889
      @fayolbien8889 2 роки тому +48

      Azula is the little girl the one who you want to teach a lesson. Because you want her to reach a right path.

    • @razzel4427
      @razzel4427 2 роки тому +119

      Let's not forget that Azula is also a victim of Ozai and like Zuko at the start of atla, only wanted approval from the person they "looked up to". Maybe if Azula had her own Uncle Iroh she would've gone on the right path.

    • @emilytrip8676
      @emilytrip8676 2 роки тому +27

      Watch The Phycology of Azula on UA-cam bruh it literally explains things so well to me

    • @trarzene
      @trarzene 2 роки тому +18

      Lmao wtf? All she wanted was to be loved? Absolutely fucking not. She wanted to rule and dominate. She wanted to be feared. Fuck outta here with that "oh she's just misunderstood" bullshit. Zuko was the misunderstood villain who had a redemption. Azula is, has always been, and always will be a consummate power-hungry villain

  • @shaunterryjr
    @shaunterryjr 7 місяців тому +3

    This misses what Joker is: a film that glorifies the paranoid narcissism that forms the grounds of fascism. This Joker isn't some sort of ironic hero; instead, he's someone who can't overcome his feelings of impotence and responds with an explosion of violence as a means of trying to soothe himself. Funny enough (because Phoenix plays both [perhaps the latter is a sort of mea culpa?]), the Joker in this sense is like Beau from Beau is Afraid (a highly underrated and misunderstood film). In each film, each character notices certain injustices, but instead of responding by taking care of themselves in a healthy way in order to move forward, they're initially feckless. Each then finds themselves reacting vengefully against a cruel world when that world cruelly declares that they're too weak to do anything about their situation. It's this constant playing-the-victim, followed by the eventual eruption of violence that makes each of these films relevant to fascism (albeit, I'd argue that Beau is Afraid is far more aware of how it do so, and so, it ends up being anti-fascist while Joker ends up endorsing fascism, and we don't need to point out how racist and misogynistic Joker is).

  • @smedwaseen2254
    @smedwaseen2254 4 місяці тому

    This is an incredibly well edited and informative video! And I 100% believe it should have more love than it does.

  • @-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812
    @-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812 3 роки тому +686

    “Villains are a necessary evil”
    *picture of leafy*
    I spat out my water

    • @devildogradar4599
      @devildogradar4599 3 роки тому +45

      I was scrolling through trying to find someone else that saw it XD

    • @David_Box
      @David_Box 3 роки тому +42

      Based

    • @theoverseer393
      @theoverseer393 3 роки тому +7

      22:49 lol

    • @normalgirls1
      @normalgirls1 3 роки тому +11

      I caught that too and almost fell out of my chair

    • @nou8257
      @nou8257 3 роки тому +6

      rip the leaf

  • @goldenbunnies4143
    @goldenbunnies4143 3 роки тому +1738

    Honestly Zuko isn’t, and never was, the villain. He is simply the antagonist of the story, the conflict, the opposing force against aang. Similarly, L or Near in death note, where Yagami Light may have been the protagonist, but protagonist does not mean hero. Light was what would be considered the villain if L or near were the protagonists, but they weren’t.
    Edit: ok so everyone is saying that light isn’t exactly a villain, more anti-hero, but I think he’s more an anti-villain. Whether his actions ultimately helped humanity is debatable, however at a surface level he is DEFINITELY a villain. However light LITERALLY believes that he is a GOD so therefore, anti-villain. Btw this comment was a complete and utter brain dump, so in my rush of typing I just found it easier to refer to him as a villain lol. Also be free to keep debating/sharing ur opinions in the replies, I quite enjoy talking abt this kind of stuff lol.

    • @l.pricetag.5207
      @l.pricetag.5207 3 роки тому +72

      I think Light was unquestionably still the villain despite being the protagonist. Similar to Arthur Fleck from Joker or almost any GTA protagonist.

    • @goldenbunnies4143
      @goldenbunnies4143 3 роки тому +13

      @@l.pricetag.5207 exactly, he’s a ‘villain’ , yet is the protagonist

    • @poke-champ4256
      @poke-champ4256 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you i was thinking the exact same

    • @zz7073
      @zz7073 3 роки тому +10

      Protagonist just means "leading character" aka MC. Any protag can be a villain, therefore Light WAS the villain.

    • @poke-champ4256
      @poke-champ4256 3 роки тому

      @@zz7073but you always have to differentiate between the two uses of villain. The one just for stories for the antagonist like zuko and the normal meaning of villain as in a despicable horrible person like light yagami

  • @fursda
    @fursda Рік тому

    Man, i've looking this video for months, i'm relief that i could finally found it!
    I love this vid, hope u doin' good

  • @Jenny-qq2qu
    @Jenny-qq2qu 22 дні тому

    I like how you always end with a fun happy clip, appreciate ya

  • @nayemrahman8656
    @nayemrahman8656 3 роки тому +2327

    A villain is just a victim who’s tragic past has consumed them.
    *All it takes is one bad day*

    • @kousand9917
      @kousand9917 3 роки тому +106

      Yes and people may not talk about it but Hitler did not have good early days but still don't sympathize with him he is still a monster

    • @childa.i.5198
      @childa.i.5198 3 роки тому +34

      @@kousand9917 A monster that somewhat helped Germany

    • @srv1347
      @srv1347 3 роки тому +3

      No a villain is just a person raised to become a villain !!

    • @thediamondcutter9185
      @thediamondcutter9185 3 роки тому +5

      @@lorec73
      Well, now Germany holds Europe in their hands. So that dude may be right as much as I don't like to think that.

    • @thediamondcutter9185
      @thediamondcutter9185 3 роки тому +3

      @@lorec73 i like to think the same thing, just the thought of him having some merits makes me freeze.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 3 роки тому +826

    “Villains are a necessary evil”
    Literally and figuratively.

    • @syv6173
      @syv6173 3 роки тому +11

      i dont understand what figuratively means in this context

    • @treadertaker7917
      @treadertaker7917 3 роки тому +15

      Seeing Dr. Bright comes from an organization that exposes itself to horrible and wonderful things we as humanity could get used to, but by purpose is kept hidden from the world, being the bad guy is easy to assume or throw away in that position.

    • @yekkub9425
      @yekkub9425 3 роки тому +2

      Syv is right, it's already literal.

    • @justanotherperson7774
      @justanotherperson7774 3 роки тому

      Bless Your Soul

    • @Xenibalt
      @Xenibalt 3 роки тому +2

      topkek :3

  • @NiVinters
    @NiVinters Рік тому +1

    Been writing for years, nearly twenty or so, and I've been writing a set of villains that come and go, few sticking out.
    The current set I've got going is truly something unique. I'm just trying to nail that anger, that sting of betrayal, the drive of pain. Nailing something like that is difficult, and this video hits the topic perfectly.
    Keep studying and hopefully you guys will create the most outstanding story with a dynamic duo to ride the tale. Stay true fellow pen friends

  • @Theaverageamerican0006
    @Theaverageamerican0006 Рік тому

    This was an excellent video. Really well thought out and put together