Dr Disrespect Responds to the Allegations
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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Remember, the people making these accusations still haven’t provided evidence.
Is crazy how fast ppl can jump into accusations, Every time I see shit like this I think what if it was me who got accused with no evidence.
@@rayvee2837 Hell, I had someone I trusted threaten to falsely accuse me of a very serious crime. I'll never believe an accusation without evidence.
Well well well look whos right now all you freaks defended him it was obvious and none of you wanted to beleive it
I heard Cody was sexting ranchers for their sheep
@@D-DovaHow are you so sure?
Imagine believing an EX-Twitch employee commenting on a SECOND HAND rumor he heard. Also Nathan Grayson lmao.
Yeah, I wouldn’t believe anything coming from a Twitter mutant from 2010-2020.
Yeah, my immediate reaction to the first story when I heard 'Nathan Grayson' was: "Oh, so it's absolute bullshit without receipts then."
Grayson having an opinion in any way, shape or form is a gargantuan red flag on it's own...
Weren't/aren't twitch employees mostly leftwing activists? Doc was one of the only big, obviously conservative streamers. That alone is motive for defamation, because leftists have made it abundantly clear they will do all they can to ruin anyone that doesn't conform to their ideology.
I also recall seeing twitch employees themselves straight openly talking about how they dont like the doc.
Something tells me Cody heard this from someone with a bias, and because Cody is also biased he believes that person.
He's an ex employee for a reason lol
Claiming someone is a rapist or a pedophile is a joke now people throw allegations around like confetti it's disgusting.
Thing is, the only reason those words get thrown around is because the people who are being attacked don't have deep enough pockets. Court is expensive, be it criminal or civil, unless it's small claims and even then the costs are still too high.
If some clown called a celeb a PDF file I guarantee you that they would be sued out of oblivion and into a fine bit of dust especially if they could find evidence that discredits the attacker
And they should get the punishment of the crime they accused them of.
ist's and ism's out the wazoo.
@@skuld8985Fr, this type of shit will ruin ppl's reputation and their lives.
People been doing it for a while. Jealousy or spite as motivators typically. Check out "Debunking the 2% myth" by aydin paladin. Shit's been bubbling up for a while now.
Damn bro, these comments aged like milk haha.
"Nathan Grayson" is everything I need to believe the allegations are false.
Who's that
@@deathmauler181 One of creators of kotaku and gamergate 1.0 villan.
Yep, we know this game. I think there should be mutual combat over this.
Just googled him, I wouldn't trust him at all especially around my kids and I wouldn't respect his opinions like those odd political leaning people of today.
Even without him being involved, Doc got paid out. That's been known since it happened. He announced that they settled and he got paid. So obviously Twitch didn't have crimes of his up their sleeves. Bezos isn't paying him millions for being a P Diddy.
I also left this comment on another video, but:
I find it EXTREMELY suspicious that no single person will put their name behind the allegations, and it has become a game of telephone.
Person 1: I know why Doc was banned and it's bad.
Person 2: A prominent Twitch streamer was banned for sexting minors.
Person 3: Person 2 says Doc was banned for sexting minors.
Person 1: I said what I said.
Not one of these explicitly states "I personally can attest that Doc was banned for sexting minors," and so all of these statements shirk responsibility for the claims. Thus, I trust none of them.
Sometimes NDAs are written such that the person under it cant talk unless the incident comes out publicly otherwise so the ability for Doc to not speak might not be for his settlement but for whoever was on the other side of the incident
@@chiquita683 There are criminal cases and there are civil cases. Criminal cases do not have payouts, they have punishment. Civil cases have payouts, but no jail time. Criminal cases cannot have payouts or settlements. Civil cases cannot have their basis be to cover up a crime (aka NDA to not speak of a felony).
Also, Doc received the payout apparently, so the other side would be twitch. What you are describing makes ZERO sense, legal or otherwise. It would mean twitch wrote a binding contract (NDA) not to protect themselves, but a third party not affiliated with twitch, which it cannot do, especially because this person is supposed to be a minor at the time of the incident.
I don't know what happened, but I can say that what you are suggesting definitely did not happen how you describe it. It is as if you heard someone one time 3 years ago talk about an NDA and you incorrectly applied it to the wrong situation after you had a brain injury that effects your memory. That is how absolutely idiotic you seem to be. Good luck with your injury, I genuinely hope you make a full recovery. Stay away from the keyboard in the meantime.
@chiquita683 If it's criminal, an NDA wouldn't cover it. That goes for whatever the settlement was between Twitch and Dr.
Person 3 is the one gonna get sued for Libel or defamation. The others ones kept it vague enough but person 3 posted specific accusations.
@@chiquita683 There was no incident if Twitch paid him out. Had there been incident and Doc did anything wrong they wouldn't have paid him. That simple. Also you Twitch legally has to report felony. We are not talking about hush money for a mistress here. We are talking about federal offense. NDA's can't hide real crimes. I guess many people don't get that since they still think Trump was actually convicted of a crime and not just politically lambasted by corrupt officials
well a lot of comments here didn't age well
What did you expect from an asmongold comment section. It reeks worse that asmondgold on the days before his monthly shower.
Yeaaaaaaa this shit is sad
@@4dbagel945 it's pretty sad. i don't remember it being this toxic. maybe i just haven't been paying attention until recently.
@@Dovakinn1903 asmon has been attracting bad crowds lately
@@Icecube88 I can see that
Find a more relevant trio regarding drama on the internet than this:
1) Former employee, 2) Word of mouth stories/rumors and 3) No evidence whatsoever.
Not only that, both twitch and doc settled the case over 2 years ago with twitch paying out the rest of his contract and neither party admitting to any wrongdoings.
With that being said, Bob, I'll take shit that didn't happen for 10$.
Actually the whole things looks like a catfish. Like he was doing something shady, but in reality the person was older and just setting him up. Either way it made Twitch look bad for being involved with him and facilitating the meetup. They paid him and wanted to keep everything quiet.
Did you mix up Jeopardy and The Price is Right? lol
@@ghost-user559"it looks like" based on what exactly? What evidence are you looking at to come to these conclusions?
I can see twitch paying the doc off and not reporting it to authorities cuz their site would be shut down.
@@umungus518 Based upon all available accounts of the situation thus far, based upon him getting both paid, but simultaneously let go, and based upon the fact that a completely innocent person would have instant grounds for legal consequences against twitch and anyone making this up if this was completely made up, and based on the fact that if a normal person was in this position they would not be quiet about it, they would say whatever they want to say to defend themselves.
Source: just trust me bro
It’s wild that the people making the accusations don’t have any evidence
i trust you!
Source: I made it the F**k up
@@Isingyoudie073Cercei Lannister type response- 🧐🧐
Go blue, buckeyes are trash
Meanwhile, “some people” get away with doxxing someone.
"Its just a hazing ritual"
they get away with way more than that if they have the "right Identities"
Some people get away with doxxing somebody thats not even the person they wanted to doxx in the first place L3L3
Well, doxxing isn't illegal so it's not hard to get away with it
sniperwolf?
"Case Closed" with absolutely zero evidence provided is insane
source: trust me bro. case closed, lock em up!
@@xxkaizenxx4594 conners’ just wanna be famous craps lol
the dude's a narcissistic sociopath
Comment aged like milk
@@cringemorecringe4549 is there proof now? If so, where can I see it?
This reminds me of Vic Mignogna's situation.
No evidence was ever produced in court beyond the accusations.
They said on the court record that there was over a hundred victims of Mignogna, but they couldn't talk about them because it would endanger those victims' lives.
They dead-ass had the fiancée of one of the accusers texting a convention runner that Mignogna was about to be arrested for R word with minors and that they should cancel his contracted appearance at their convention to avoid being caught up in the scandal,
full well knowing no arrest was imminent because law enforcement wasn't investigating Mignogna and hadn't been contacted whatsoever.
None of it mattered. Mignogna's legal representation bungled their case, the judge ruled Mignogna's accusers were exercising their "free speech" to defame him.
Johnny Depp's situation taught us two vitally important lessons,
1) You can fight back. Some people's minds will always be made up about you, but you can reclaim some of what was taken from you,
2) The right legal representation f***ing matters. Depp's legal team went to bat for him and their k/d was top tier. Mignogna's utterly failed him.
Please do not research what has happened Nick Rekieta (Vics legal help) since. The curse is real, DarksydePhil has outlived all of his detractors.
@@peacecraft9354 Nick didn't represent Vic but did introduce Vic to Ty Beard, who did represent him
@@peacecraft9354 Gundam rises. No way he survives gundam.
what code are all of you speaking in? I can't understand anything after the top comment
@@7dayspking The lore is that Vic Mignogna story. He was accused of a whole host of sexual misconduct. Vic got terrible legal representation as a result of being targeted by a lawyer youtuber (Nick Rekieta) for publicity really. Nick Rekieta recommended his legal friend Ty Beard to help Vic Mignogna with his case. He lost the case.
Nick is now a raging alcoholic who was arrested for heroine or another drug or something recently after getting into a swinging relationship with his wife and another couple. Lawyer, 3+ kids(?) , wife, situation screwed up.
Nick at one time was trying to ridicule DarksydePhil. DSP is among the earliest success LETS PLAY youtube users who lost 90% of audience around 2012ish. He was the butt of the joke as were a few people who fell from grace. Called a beggar at this point, has an audience composed of trolls giving him tips.
There have been a number of people who have targeted DSP but fell from grace while DSP remains. It's very difficult to kill a cockroach. It's a curse, do not make fun of DSP. He's like Candyman.
I hope that's a good enough summary.
EDIT: I should note ItsAGundam is the Gundam reference, who has indeed been someone who has made fun of DSP. His fate is sealed...
He should sue the fuck out them if they lied. They are accusing him of being a child molester on a major platform.
"they" is an old employee that no longer works there. You mean he should sue that Cody dude, not twitch
@@jim_carryexactly. Who probably isn’t worth it.
@@WestCoastAce27 wdym isn't worth it ?
he wont because its true lol
@@sn5806 he didnt sue twitch. They settled out of court. The counter argument is that it is easier for twitch to give doc a few million to shut up and go away or twitch can possible lose billions over a pedophile text scandal on their website that comes to public light in a court battle. You do the math who actually wins because if that were a true scenario then it be a win win for everyone. But its all speculation and we will never know what happened because doc nor twitch is going to sue anyone and bring all the details out publicly.
Innocent until proven guilty is no more in this crazy times
Never was, my dude, never was... Just a lofty utopian ideal.
Doc doesn't have a good track record, and it also makes no sense that nothing happened at all.
@@Miragexe you're missing a lot that was said in this very video, did you even watch it? You don't jump from no evidence to just believing his guilty because "makes no sense that nothing happened at all"
@@SwayNoir they want him to be guilty eitger froma grudge or cant accept they aee wrong(unless some evidence shows up)
@@Miragexe "Your honor I KNOW this guy is the murderer. It only makes sense. I rest my case."
This guy just taunted Doc's lawyer and now he's gonna have some aggro
Would be funny
If that doesn't happen the doc is guilty. Period.
@@therealharshlycritical if the Doc was guilty, he wouldn't have been paid by Twitch.........
@@AiR1DaNThinking of this in black and white is why you people will never know the truth. Not being found guilty of anything “illegal” just means his lawyer is very good. That doesn’t mean he is innocent. I know plenty of cases where murderers were found not guilty even after finding a murder weapon with their fingerprints on it LOL.
My guess it’s true so I don’t see agro
Started to suspected he isnt a real doctor.
It's just immoral and stupid that somebody can make baseless claims without any evidence like this.
"He sexted a young girl. Just truth me" - How about no?
"so where is the evidence the messages and whispers?"
"Just trust me bro I am a Twitch employee I know things you don't and I don't need evidence"
Idiots
Define "can".
If this isn't true the party spoken about can sue said person. I would expect that the USA also have something in place that would coerce a person to make a public correction statement. There is a difference between "can physically" and "can legally".
@@Finsternis.. Are we already going the route "if doc doesn't sue him, he is a pdf"? Not even a day passed.
@@Finsternis.. You shouldn't assume things. Instead look it up. The only way a "Correction" would work is if Doc sued him and they offered to publicly recant it voluntarily. The court can't order you to say shit. They can order you to pay all the money you have though. And that's what will happen if doc feels like pursuing it.
@@tarakan_io No. I said nothing of this sort. I merely responded to the question about how someone "can" make such a statement.
You are correct, if an actual crime was committed the District Attorney has an absolute legal obligation to investigate and possibly prosecute, this is to prevent intimidation of victims and to prevent false accusations, so even if the victim says "I don't want to prosecute" the D.A. will tell them "too bad, it's not up to you"
and it's pretty telling that no "victim" has come out to say anything. My guess is she may have been untruthful about her age. And this is just complete guessing now, but perhaps her parents or someone found out what she was doing, and reported it to twitch, and they basically knee jerk banned doc, and couldn't really walk it back.
This. More people need to understand this.
@@moonasha even if thats the case the man is 42 shouldnt sext an 18 yo anyway
@@nexor7809lol the law is u have be above 18 meaning the one He texted was underage & The company probably paid out her family & hid the truth 😂😂
@@Edin155payouts are only applicable to civil cases, this scenario would be a criminal cease in which payouts aren't an option did you watch the video or are you being stupid on purpose cus if you are it's hela funny😂.
I can think of a very simple scenario of how this could've gone down: Dr. Sexted a minor he didn't know was a minor. The reality is a lot of minors pretend they are adults too. Twitch found out the facts and banned him. But if Dr. truly didn't know the person was a minor, that's not criminal. It's not a good look, but it's not criminal. Both sides made mistakes, so they signed an NDA to cover it up. Pretty much by the book play.
nope, you know why i know this theory is false, first off, all twitch had to do was call him, and tell him what they saw, then they would of shut it down, had some mediation behind close doors, and let him continued as if nothing happen. WHY ban him FOR THAT? WHY no legal or criminal charges?? WHY protect him? they would look so bad, specially with AMAZON behind them, they would of lost investors. like asmon said, you cant settle a felony!! clase close would of been doc with a criminal record. this had to do with mixer trying to buy him out. other streamers had said similar things about mixer trying to buy them from twitch. thats the most acceptable reason why, well twitch thought it was right to release him without paying him a dime, doc sue them to make them pay out the contract cause he didnt do anything wrong trying to talk to mixer. and twitch would of looked petty in the public eye, not a good look while mixer had some legs, then when doc finally found out about it, thats when he went for them got paid, twitch said, keep this underwraps NDA, now were here 4 years later throwing more theories around.
And plus why would they pay him.
Minor should pay up aswell since it's a crime to say u have over 18 when u don't
I believe Doc was set up by twitch.
He admitted he did it.
I don’t listen to allegations anymore without evidence presented. You can accuse anyone of anything now and people will believe it with nothing to support it.
And you can't even trust evidence either since some people are really good at image editing and manipulation
That’s why we got innocent until proven guilty, if you can’t prove someone is guilty then too bad you got no right to determine who’s guilty by sheer opinion.
My friend faced the same accusations; he was even beaten multiple times. They only accused him because he was fat, had a nerdy look, and had never gotten a girlfriend. They tested him on Facebook Messenger by pretending to be a 14-year-old girl. Of course, he replied; he had never spoken to a girl before, and no girl had ever messaged him. That was about 10 years ago. He was so depressed that he committed suicide at 24 years old. Those are some serious accusations, and if Doc is not guilty, his life has been ruined. It's just a matter of time before people push him so far that he ends up like my friend did 10 years ago.
thats true. even if he comes innocent he will lose a lot of sponsors with the time. company's will choose other content creators to expose their products because his image are fucked. whatever he do ppl will not forget those 3 incidents.
Zoe Quinn did this to a game dev. I need to look up his name, but she falsely accused him, he was fired, then he self-deleted shortly after the huge harassment campaign started. Zoe Quinn is not in jail.
But he did talk to the 14yo? No excuses for that.
even me gonna chat if someone chat me ofcourse until i know their age ,
@@KyleBoiseWell I assume he didn't said or sent anything inappropriate.
The problem is that he can't come out and say "I wasn't banned for [INSERT REASON]" because he is not legally allowed to say why he WAS banned according to the lawsuit. Saying why you were banned and saying why you weren't is the same thing, otherwise he could have just listed every possible thing he wasn't banned for and let people "figure it out" through deduction. It's going to drive the internet crazy, but he is saying as much as he can to defend himself.
As for the illegality aspect, it is a federal crime in the united states to: receive explicit material from a minor, send ANY explicit material to a minor (even if the pic/vid isn't of you, btw), solicit a minor for s£xual contact or to talk with a minor in a s£xual manner. If the lawsuit "found no wrong doing", it means that this was investigated and that none of those laws I just mentioned were broken, meaning that it likely didn't happen at all...
Personally i'd rather be in breach of contract than let rumours about myself persist like this
The lawsuit was Doc suing Twitch for breach of contract on THEIR side. If for example per their contract Twitch had to inform Doc about the reason for his ban within X days, and they did not do so, it's pretty irrelevant what Doc did or didn't do, if Twitch didn't follow their side of the contract. The press release at the time was "Dr Disrespect and Twitch have resolved their legal dispute. No party admits to any wrongdoing." And Doc is saying they paid out his whole contract, but "did not admit any wrongdoing". Well that clearly means Twitch DID do something wrong, if they had to pay him regardless, doesn't it. But yet they did not "admit" any wrongdoing.
@@mvprime8 I'll walk you through it rq. The lawsuit was just to prove that whatever he did, it wasn't in breach of his contract.
See, if you breach your contract with your employer, depending on the exact situation, your employer can withold funds from you. The most common ways this comes up is a breach of a "morality clause" or when an employee causes property damage to property that belongs to their employer, or to a third party that their employer would then be liable for.
A morality clause, as asmond briefly touched on in this clip basically just says "if you do anything unbefitting an employee at this establishment, you will be fired without formal notice or warning". The act itself has to bring provable damages to the reputation of the employer.
If the allegations are true, this would actually fit the requirements for termination. The lawsuit, however, found "no wrong doing" (which means there are no contract breaches). The lack of contract breaches means that he didn't do anything that could bring reputational damage to the company, meaning that he did not engage in illegal activities, as doing such would fall under provable damages.
@@Handles_AreStupid can you walk me through rq on how Twitch had to pay Doc, even though Twitch did nothing wrong.
@@mvprime8 Do you know how contracts work?
I'm convinced this is just deflecting and Cody the ex Twitch employee is the actual pedia file.
I help, just use pdf file. Very compact way to say it.
A twitch employee being a freak? 😮
Doc admitted it.
@@voltus20 Notice the date. Glad you caught up finally though.
@@AmericaFirst-1 doesn't make you any less wrong for blindly siding with one side and actually defaming another person until more things came out.
People hear something on the internet and immediately think it’s true.
Yeah and water is wet
Anything gossip related is always childish. Way to much time on your hands Asmon lol
It’s how the media has worked forever. You can write an article about whatever you want, then write a retraction a week later, but it doesn’t matter since a fraction of the people who originally read the article will see the retraction, so most people will go on believing what they first read. It’s how the media makes money, but now people use social media also.
@@ChezMclegend son you watched the whole video dont talk about too much time
people hear something on the internet and immediately think its false
What if they doing this hoping doc would say something that would break the settlement agreement!?
When I read the allegation, it didn’t make sense that doc isn’t in jail after getting banned and not only that he got his contract paid out. Like Twitch could have just handed the evidence to the FBI and they would have taken Doc to court and he’d be in jail. Twitch wouldn’t have even had to pay court fees, let alone his contract.
some people said maybe doc had something on them, but if the allegations are true it must have been some pretty heavy shit to offset sexting a minor.
@@LucefieD maybe some twitch staff we're secretly doing the same thing 🫣
The twitch employee clearly hated the Doc while he worked at twitch.
Who's to say he wasn't the same employee who canceled or banned him?
My theory is that an employee banned Doc wrongly and made the accusations of texting a youngling.
Doc then lawyered up and his lawyer threaten to sue twitch into Oblivion as twitch had no real proof of the accusations.
Twitch then decided they wanted no part of the lawsuit or the bad media storm and decided to pay Doc so it would go away.
But made him sign a NDA to where he could never bring it up again.
Doc didn't want the hassle, just the money and to move on.
Cody on the other hand seems like vindictive dude who does not like Doc. The dude severance pay was probably over and he's looking for a way to generate buzz and make money.
Lies lies lies... Doc is innocent.
Well According to doc as of recently, there is some truth to the matter.
These people keep telling others don't believe anything you saw on the internet then literally believe everything themselves.💀
The main question is, if the Codydude will get rekt or not legally. His allegation is way too wild to simply let it be. And if it were true, Dr. D wouldn't be here, but in jail today.
For that to happen Doc would have to sue and prove defamation. I am not legal expert, all I know is that lawsuits are expensive and defamation is notoriously hard to prove in court, even if from a casual's perspective it looks like an open and shut case. Also since it's just some random bozo, I doubt Doc would be able to extract enough money from him to make this worthwhile, even if he has won. So you're looking at a lawsuit that you would almost certainly lose a lot of money on, that you aren't even guaranteed to win. All of that just to prove some random bozo wrong. Unless this spirals out of control in some way, I don't think Doc will pull the trigger, it's just not worth it.
@@RiskOfBaerit's the "malicious" part of defamation that's hard but perhaps dm's from cody to nathan grayson could bare some fruit
@@jamesrustles8670 yea exactly its the only part thats so difficult to prove about defamation cases is that you have to prove malicious intent
Bro have you all never seen To Catch A Predator? These dudes knowingly sext the minor decoys, and then show up at the bait house with every intention to have sex, and more than half of them walk out of jail the next day with all charges dropped.
OJ Simpson was acquitted. Does that mean he’s innocent?
People in positions that Cody was in, don’t just hail Mary memes that can literally end your livelihood.
Well he admitted it.
As a person dealing with an ex messaging and posting people about my business taking charitable donations to help families in the community for myself, having the police speak to me and not even do an investigation because there is no wrongdoing, and STILL having people call me a scammer on my own social profiles and my reputation being ruined, we do not have the right to make any judgment on a situation that we're not close to.
I remember people said "People won't believe you when you say Man hurt you". But based on what we've seen, people will believe it...even without proof.
especially when its against someone famous!
This. The same people that will choose the bear in that stupid “man or bear” question. 🙄
@@Elutai connors wanna be famous shit
Honestly I don't know how much more power women think they need to wield. It's very apparent that our entire culture is in decline and is inexorably heading towards being subsumed, and one of the massive factors towards it is utilising feminism to turn women into wage slaves.
Yeah, so the excuse that women would pick the bear because "nobody would believe me that a man hurt me" it's an absolute lie.
Whatever happened would obviously make him and twitch look bad if it went public, since both parties want to keep it secret. If it didn’t then either party would want to make it public in order to clear these kinds of negative accusations.
Yeah making this tweet that Cody did without bringing any evidence whatsoever while Doc is under NDA is a slam dunk for a lawsuit. It's also kinda gross and fooked up that somebody would tweet this about anybody without evidence!
Dude you’re saying common sense. The part that is extremely suspicious, is that this guy “Cody” apparently was at a position in the company at a level where he understood the gravity of saying something like this. Him risking his entire lively hood to put out some meme on twitter about doc doesn’t make any sense.
Cody going to get slammed😅😅😅
Also Cody probably signed an NDA too, so he can't talk about twitch times
@@tiernanastronskas261 he's an idiot he's going to get fucked up he just doesn't understand the severity of the situation I feel he might have a problem with Doc the thing is Doc sued Twitch and won meaning there was discovery.... Cody is going to get slammed🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hassan should get slammed too he’s broadcasting accusing doc of being a oedo
He's been slandered. Don't believe anything they say.
me going dr disrespect mode on your pfp
With that pfp..
@@rem3dy_e who asked
@@DarkzarichV2 Do you have a single independent thought by any chance?
@@rem3dy_eyou’re one to talk
The people making these accusations need to be sued for defamation.
This aged poorly
somebody fucked up bigtime and somebody is gonna get paid even bigger time
The two time!
Not necessarily. In Civil court ANYTHING goes - so if DD has ANY skeletons in his closet that MIGHT be discovered and come out in court, he may just let this die out.
@@WestCoastAce27 Untrue. Civil court is not a free-for-all. It has rules same as criminal courts.
@@WestCoastAce27 he already took this to civil court and it settled. If there were skeletons they would have come out then.
Lol fucking idiots thinking they understand the law in this comment section. Doc already got payed out because of this situation. The NDA probably just ended for the employee's of Twitch.
Asmon placing too much trust in Ex TWITCH employee Cody Connors. Just because he was high up in the company doesn't = he is telling the truth.
Facts
In fact, to me it seems the opposite is true. He's using his position at Twitch to bolster the credibility of his claims despite knowing he has no evidence.
That's even bigger reason to think that he's lying.
He just thinks too highly of him, and can't believe that someone would do something so stupid if it was not true, I can see Asmon's point but I think Cody is just an idiot for now
I feel like the higher up at Twitch you get, the more delusional they become
The more I think about this the more it doesn’t make any sense. Are you telling me Twitch didn’t have a clause in their contract that voids the deal if the employee commits a crime on the platform ? Heck most standard contracts have a clause that states the employee can’t do anything that damages the companies reputation.
I just find it hard to believe that Twitch had solid evidence of Doc sexting a minor, then went to court - and the courts sided with Doc and made Twitch pay up in full. It just sounds absurd.
In this scenario Doc has committed an actual felony - and used Twitch platform to do it. You are telling me that Twitch doesn’t have a thing in their contract that voids it if the streamer blatantly breaks the rules of their site? And I’m pretty sure preying on minors is a violation of their ToS.
So something here isn’t adding up. The math ain’t mathing. Makes me think the texts were vague, or Doc didn’t know the age of the user. Basically the text didn’t meet the criteria of a crime due to being so tame.
And if the texts don’t even meet the requirements for a crime - or don’t even meet the criteria of breaking ToS - then I think it’s a massive leap to suggest he was sexting minors.
I still think it’s unfortunate Doc was talking to fans period. And after he already got caught cheating on his wife he had no business discussing meeting up with a fan. But again that’s a far cry from being an actual predator on the loose.
Finally consider the implications if the allegations are true. That would mean Twitch and hundreds of journalists knew for years that a major streamer is a predator trying to lure in children - and no one said anything. You are telling me a Twitch employee knew, hundreds of major journalists knew - and not one anonymously leaked this out for the safety of the children? wtf
Also if Doc did actually commit a felony then Twitch chose to not report it the police. Which just makes them loook really bad.
i've been practicing one simple rule for over 24 years now. Picture or it didn't happen. That how it was, that's how it is and that's how it should always be.
no point in wrapping your mind around a non-issue.
The old 4chan logic of 'Pics or didn't happen/Tits or GTFO' is always a useful tool for discerning truth from fiction on the internet.
why are pictures proof when you can edit them to show whatever you want, text is very easy to edit
@@Makalon102 exactly. Besides, to first get to the "pictures" aka evidence you first usually need to speculate about things before getting it
@@Makalon102 because files say when they have been edited?
Created date.
Accessed date.
Modified date.
all stored in every file.
plus most editing tools also tag the file. some even save previous revisions in the same file!
So the reason is: its at least something to work with over "trust me bro."
almost 4 year gone since he was banned. why this even started to be discussed right now ?!??!?
Cody's irrelevance was starting to get to him lol
It’s a felony charge to solicit a minor, should also be a felony to accuse someone of this!
Honestly even just a month in prison would stop the vast majority
People are willing to say a lot shit these days especially online the second there is even a tiny amount of real life consequences would stamp most of it out
Literally have women on twitch showing their twats to kids, but oh no drpedo isn't one.
I think that's called defamation and it's not protected by 1st amendment
If he actually did what their accusing him of, the evidence would have been undeniable and therefor, reported to law enforcement and charged years ago.
This is literally how media makes news stories.
One outlet says “alleged” then the next one says “we heard this from a different source” then the next one says it as fact and gets heard then repeated by the people.
The detail about how you can only settle civil cases not felony cases is really important. If there was a settlement like he said then nothing too serious could have happened.
yep and it would immediately become a felony case if he was sexting a minor and trying to set up a meeting
@@yihadistxdl951 Cocked 'Her Disrespect
And he wouldn't have been begging twitch to tell the public why he was banned either.
They tried to say this when he got banned.
I posted this on your last Doc vid feel it bears repeating.
Shroud Ninja and some other streamer moved to Mixer. Doc renegotiated his contract and the Twitch commercial came out where he jumps out the plane. Mixer died and Ninja and Shroud came back. Doc got banned shortly after. It was all about not wanting to pay out his contract.
You have to imagine in order to get Ninja and Shroud back they also had to get new contracts. Probably cost Twitch a fortune all in like a 6 month period.
You know for a fact Doc used that opportunity when they left. The only nefarious thing I can conceive is Doc maybe told them Mixer made him an offer they really didn't as a negotiation tactic.
Exactly Doc was banned 4 days after Microsoft announced it was shutting down Mixer. Thats an awfully big coincidence.
That’s the main prevailing theory because it makes the most sense. He told them he had a Mixer deal worth 6 figures so Twitch would up his own, and then unluckily for Doc Mixer shut down shortly thereafter. Twitch in anger bans him, he sues them for breaching his contract without valid reason because the terribly run company didn’t and still hasn’t provided any proof of what we all know Doc did, they end up having to pay out his contract fully, and in return they agree not to talk about it (twitch definitely doesn’t want other streamers trying this with now Kick or any other platform that pops up), and Doc rides off to UA-cam or wherever.
Obviously this is all conjecture too, but what sounds more likely, the above scenario which is why nobody at twitch cares to leak it in all this time, or that somehow the company full of morons and unhinged psychopaths managed to keep it quiet that Doc was sexting or grooming a minor or was going to meet her at twitchcon or whatever, and it took this brave ex employee who got fired for harassing female employees while showing up drunk at work (it’s true, case closed boys) to finally tell the truth 😂😂😂
It's insane to me that someone can say things like that with zero proof and people believe it. I have no idea if he did it but bro since when innocent till proven guilty turn into such a controversial statement?
I even see people be extremely glad about it, posting memes, making jokes, all because they hate his politics. If he indeed did such a thing then are you really glad that a child was almost .....because it justifies your views? How are people so sick???
Logic doesn't belong on the internet anymore. Get with the times.
I bet these emotional internet users of today get upset, annoyed & frustrated with the character he plays that leads them to be happy with all of this 😂, it's ridiculous.
here is another thing, people post screenshots of chats as proof and everyone accepts them its not like its easy to make images show whatever you want
Keffals is rumored to be involved
@@Makalon102 I never understood how people just trust random screenshots with texts. Takes not even 5 minutes to fake.
And as mentioned, given the discovery process in a legal case and that Doc initiated the lawsuit, that'd be truly stupid for someone if he had done what they claim he did.
Not necessarily. He could’ve still solicited a minor but had a good argument of why he didn’t break a morality clause.
^ No. if he did solicit a minor for anything sexual, that is a federal offense and he would be in prison LOL. You don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about.
Well someone's fucking lying, and whoever it is is gonna get burned big time.
hardly, most fake accusers get away scott free these days there no repercussion for anyone to just come out and make up some crappy accusation because even if not true most time there a minority of people who will believe it and ruin the person rep and if dr disrespect wasnt famous and just ordinary guy it be worse
If that is true, the employee should have atleast a Screenshot, or generally the data should be somewhere. If there is no proof, then its just someone saying oh you did smth Bad, which is nowhere near being "Proof"
Doc should sue for defamation, these people are trying to ruin his life.
He can't because the guy didn't say his name. Twitch could sue him though
guy has moved on and is cooking like 4 years later with 20+k viewers a stream on youtube, and they're still trying to bury him. Talk about petty.
@@moonashaI know right, the fact he still carries streaming to tens of thousands of people makes me believe he is not guilty.
@@Ryder187-r3p wtf kind of logic is that? People watch your stream so you can't do anything wrong?
@@oceandrop7666people can say words on the internet and it should be believed at face value? Come on man
I think Nathan Grayson is the chomo, not Doc
This would be the sane conclusion.
I think they tired to renegotiate his contract and Doc didn’t want to. So they banned him to get out of paying him. Used some very vague reason and they couldn’t legitimately prove the reason. So they settled with him and made him sign an NDA. More than likely this whole twitch and Doc situation is much simpler than we think. I feel like it was about money/branding
He absolutely needs to sue those that are defaming him.
So what I am getting from this story is:
1) Former employee says streamer was banned for inappropriate contact with someone under 18, with 0 evidence to back it up.
2) The employer lost a (I would assume) civil trial over the ban.
3) The employer pays the streamer and apparently signs they won't discuss this any further.
4) Former employee starts talking about the situation saying there was wrongdoing by the streamer, 2 years after this was all settled.
5) Accused can't discuss that much due to the trial preventing some things being said (which I do find kind of dumb especially when it prevents you from defending yourself even if you truly are innocent of the accusations and the case was settled years ago).
Me thinks this former employee doesn't like DrDisrespect. There could be a few things. One is he got fired because the company lost an (possibly) undisclosed amount of money and decided to fire him to cut down some costs. Or he got fired for some other reason and just doesn't like the streamer for some reason. You don't just go around throwing bombs (accusations) with no fuses (evidence) and expect a big explosion (everyone to believe you and the accused getting completely screwed over). People throw accusations out there all the time to similar stuff but how you go about accusing can completely destroy your credibility and do little harm to the accused. Like for me there was one huge case that eventually was thrown out that I didn't believe because the accusers were acting like children the whole time and appeared to take none of the case seriously even though the accusations were horrendous.
I do hope that if the company can't talk about the situation and the accused can't talk about it then a former employee of the company that can't speak can be liable for breaking the ruling of the court.
i think it's telling that he didn't name any names in the op. plausible deniability as to who he was talking about
Dr. Disrespect poised to win a slander case it seems
seriously, this cody guy is asking for it. Generally with public figures like doc it's hard to slander them. But this cody guy has some position of authority in relation to doc, as a previous twitch employee. He could very much damage doc's reputation. I hope doc sues if he's actually innocent.
I can't claim to know who fucked up big time, but somebody fucked up big time. Allegedly.
No allegedly. Either Doc or Cody fucked up big. Time will tell who.
Allegedly.
I wonder if Doc is already counting his money from the subsequent slander suit against OP.
Somebody is getting sued not sure who at this point
Cody is an Island visitor
Well this video aged well, bye bye doc
People should not believe in any allegation without a single proof.
Cody going to get sued into oblivion.
Cody gave no proof and basically said "I had a dream about this happening so it has to be true".
somewhere there are lawyers yelling at someone in this video to shut their mouth right now
Objection Hearsay
Remember Johnny Depp. We need to wait until it ALL comes out.
Dude says he did nothing illegal. But that doesnt mean he didnt try to meet up with a minor at twitchcon.
Yes it does. Because that would be him doing something illegal.
Yes it does. Because that would be him doing something illegal.
@@WineWoodTip just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean its not immoral to do so.
Cant wait for him to get sued for defamation
yeah that would mean unsealing the records. Somehow I doubt that lunatic fuck wants his crap exposed
You cannot settle a felony, you can take a plea deal. Two very different things.
If nobody presses charges….
@@AA-BB isn't that up to the district attorney ?
@@AA-BB Twitch isn't a judge or a court. They don't get that call. The state prosecutes, not Twitch.
I'm disappointed there's so many people that actually treat Twitch like a law-enforcing entity just because they have _some_ power to ban _some_ people.
@@AA-BB "If nobody presses charges…." Bro getting in with a minor has nothing to do with charges. If its known by big company, they have to report it even if the victim does not want that. Its not up to anybody, its just one way street.
Bro just mad someone still has a secure better job than his old job
You dont pay out someones contract when you want to get rid of them if you have an easy way to get out of paying them like that. I get asmon gives this guy credibility cause he knows him or some shit. But this just seems like a low effort rumor thats getting spread with no evidence by someone with a personal grudge.
There's a lot of possible things that might've happened here. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, right? Like Doc sexting a girl while he was under the rightful impression that she wasn't a minor. And the moment he realized she was a minor he backed off and perhaps even told people about it. If something like this was the case than obviously he'd win the settlement and wasn't found guilty of anything. However, like I said before, there's a million different things that could've happened. It's all just very vague. One thing is certain, though: Twitch handled things unbelievably poorly and they've been paying the price for that ever since.
Oh, and by the way, there's something else that just crossed my mind. It's very weird timing how this rumor gets spread by an ex-Twitch employee right when similar stories about people like Zherka on Rumble get out. Could be a coincidence, but I seriously doubt it. It feels a lot more like some people who dislike Doc just jump on the bandwagon and accuse him of 'current bad thing'.
I think it's something like this. Involved texting and a supposed minor, but we don't have the full story.
Could be an age of consent issue too though, like take Georgia with an age of consent of 16, then California with an AoC of 18, so Twitch goes nuts like OMG that person is under 18, ban, ban, ban! But legally it would be ok, which is probably why Twitch had to pay. And Dr. D can say no illegality was involved.
@@rob5customs We're in the ballpark for sure here!
Or, considering the fact that Nathan Grayson is involved(a name no one has heard of since like 2014), it's all a bunch of baloney like most accusations on the internet.
@@rob5customs Alright, so I could be totally wrong here and I can't be bothered to look this up right now (so maybe someone else can), but isn't it true that the American laws are kinda weird on this? Because as far as I know there are certain states where the aoc is 16, but isn't the federal aoc 18? And those laws being at odds with each other makes the state laws with a lower aoc kinda useless, right? Again, correct me if I'm wrong.
People be throwing allegations like FREEBIES now 😟
DrDisrespect is a Legend.
DrDisrespect is a strong male person and that is why they hated him
He is not a pink or blue haried limp wristed piece of crap like the rest of them.
If they had 1 shred of proof they would post it.
DrDisrespect should now sue them into oblivion.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
@@BadMannerKorea Suing him would lead to more people knowing about the nature of the NDA he signed with Twitch, which is a direct violation of his contract. Doc's legal team most likely advised him to go on the DL and ride it out
@@BadMannerKorea Denying something related to case counts as speaking on the case
I'm glad people in these comments have a logical brain, most people have already thrown Doc under the bus purely on an accusation already.
"Case closed, gang" he said as if he didnt start 10 other cases because of that. One thing I hate the most in modern online sphere is how comfortable people are throwing around those kind of allegations. What I hate even more is how the rest of the people believe it immediately and start spreading hate against "defendant" without haviny ANY evidence. I wish nothing but karma to people who are so quick with deciding about somebody else's guilt. Funnily enough since it happens on twitter I can assume that many of those people have "human rights" written in their bios.
Following Occam's razor after all of this, it would land on Doc being innocent. It's not concrete, obviously since many details are undisclosed, but the patterns are not adding up to a guilty man.
Ex twitch employee probably believes the rumors he's been told. He's not defaming someone he's "revealing the truth" that he believes to be true with no real facts or basis.
They paid him out because a low level employee found the PRIVATE text. Someone who shouldnt have access to those file - did. And that would be huge issue for twitch. That was a lawsuit in its own right. Doc's argument IS the age of consent is 16 in most states. If they never met up nothing happen - not illegal. Doc will never recover from this and shouldn't. Clearly the whole situation was bad all around.
How u kno
I believe the "no wrongdoing was acknowledged" part was in response to Twitch, not Doc. They did not admit wrongdoing by cancelling his agreement without cause but settled the contract as it was due to him - rather than giving him leverage to sue for lost income and damages.
If there had been any legitimate wrongdoing on his part, they would have used it as an excuse to avoid payment.
The fact that people instantly believed this without evidence is appalling
Innocent until PROVEN guilty
And this comes AFTER he made fun of starfields pronouns things ... so... we know how this goes now and why... this person better be ready for a lawsuit
Some UA-camr said "The only evidence given is a crack pipe and a "trust me bro"" and I think that sums it up perfectly.
What I got from this exchange: The rumour, or allegation could be what they came after Doc with in private. When it turned out to be false, Doc got pissed, threatened to sue Twitch and those involved after which they agreed it's best to pay him out, go their separate ways and never talk about it. This has evidently people higher up involved or they would just fire a low level person, apologise to Doc and he would continue. He couldn't because it has people involved that he probably worked close with.
Don't forget this went to court. The judge would not simply let this go if he was guilty.
They probably paid him out because he made the argument that since either Twitch or the contract stated this matter to remain hidden from the public, there were no any longer grounds of defamation or breach of a morality clause. Basically, He didn't make the company look bad therefore he was to still be paid out the money from his contract whether they terminated it or not. That way he's still able to look completely innocent by telling the truth, "I got paid, I didn't do anything wrong, it was probed." That's my theory. Especially since part of the agreement they made was that what happened was to not be released to the public.
“No wrong doing was acknowledged.” That screams caution. If nothing else, at the very least, caution.
People don't wanna believe the actual truth and will believe what they think is the truth.
If any wrong doing was accruing, Not only would Twitch have to report it to the police. The police would have Taken an investigation upon Mr Disrespect.
The settlement was probed and settled. and obviously nothing was found to make disrespect Guilty. A minor shouldn't be on Twitch. Period.
The thing is, he was banned for a reason. They didn’t just ban one of their most popular streamers for the hell of it. And if it was something as simple as him advocating for another platform, or something similar they would’ve just came out and said it. They may not have wanted bad PR from announcing what he was banned for and decided to not say why as a sort of “respect” thing for him being such a big draw on their platform for so long.
My best theory is that Cody saw the documents and situation but accidentally came to the wrong conclusion
Couldn't this be explained that he was set up or didn't know. I imagine intent would play a huge factor. Some 304 contacted him, and she never told him how old she was or the girl was actually a dude setting him up. He flippantly tells her, "ya come out to twitch con" thinking they will never appear. I can't imagine him conducting some kind of blatant crime and police never being involved. No one knows anything at this point but doc and the lawyers. Also don't buy into the NDA timeline expiration I saw on X. Twitch employees and games journalist only brought this up to get doc to talk about it to get twitch to void the deal cuz I'm sure this wasn't a lump sum but installments.
I have no opinion on Disrespect since I don't watch his content, but hearing your thoughts on it leads me to believe he's being falsely accused. If he's in the clear I hope he sues the guy making those claims
Without any knowledge about this and just based on this clip, I assume that Doc did send this minor girl in question texts that could be interpreted as sexual, but were illegal.
His chats with her "were probed and looked into, but nothing illegal was found" (instead just saying that he didnt do it). So he could still be sexting her (whatever that exactly means in that case) without breaking the law. However, in the court of public opinion, this might still be a problem if the girl goes public about it. So Twitch paid the girl and Doc, and let them sign an NDA.
honestly I can see this being a couple of things,
A)
Dr disrespect was being a bit creepy towards someone he knew was a minor but with the plausible deniability of being vague enough with them that he called twitches bluff and threatened to sue them for breaking the contract and twitch figured ok, the "proof" we have is very weak at best something along the lines of "hey wanna grab a coffee with me at twitch con ;)" and if we put that up with our assertion attached to it we open ourselves up to a defamation case, its easier to just keep the ban, pay off the remainder of his contract and brush it all under the rug
B)
Dr disrespect was being creepy with some random twitch girl, he made some advances and asked to meet up, someone in twitch staff was familiar enough with this person and knew they were under 18 and just assumed Dr disrespect must know too, but either he didn't or there was no explicit mention of it in their chat logs putting twitch in a very awkward position in terms of proving he actually knew her age.
C) Dr disrespect argued that was someone else on his staff who had sent the messages, super weak argument, but then twitch would have to reveal to the public that A they are reading everyones private messages (lots of people already know this, but I'm sure twitch doesn't want to have a big headline reminding everyone of that fact), and B have to prove that it 100% was Dr. disrespect that sent the messages and not someone he had working with him either in an attempt to frame him and blackmail him or just that the other guy was a creep pretending to be him to get nudes etc
D) The accusations are 100% true but Dr disrespect had some mega dirt on some higher ups at twitch and basically it was a game of chicken at that point, you expose me ill expose this guy, this guy, I have messages from the ceo to this girl being a massive creep asking for stuff in exchange for promotion on the platform, your company will be tanked, so stfu and pay up
or the final option that it was all BS, twitch office gossip, one guy said "probably something like this" or over heard a snippet of a different story about a different person that was brought up during the talks about Dr. disrespect and the rumour mill just went wild in the office as it did on twitter etc, if there was solid proof against him I couldn't imagine he would've started demanding twitch pay out his contract unless option D was the real scenario, if he had been let go and twitch were keeping quiet I would imagine he would try to just fade into the background Homer Simpson style in the meme
If someone has enough confidence to go forward and accuse one of the highest viewed streamers then itd be absolutely financial suicide to do so without a shred of evidence. I’ve seen multiple ridiculous threads where people have “confirmed” such behaviour and it’s not exactly like he has a clean history but it’s insanity for this to be taken so far without any substantiated evidence.
bad PR or not, the original claim needs evidence and anyone taking the word from a twitch employee at face value is a clown, straight up.
"no wrongdoing was found", This sounds like there was internal investigation and he could have hid evidence. I wouldn't let it go just yet.
Well I was right
The people saying it should be illegal to make such accusations are kind of terrifying for lack of better words. There's a middle ground and that ain't it.
These accusations, no matter what, can destroy a life mentally and physically and that should not be the goal of Cody Conners. They should handle their allegations very carefully and with consideraion. No evidence, no case! I'd say unguilty until proven guilty.