Hey y'all. I haven't had the opportunity to use the EAD10 in a live situation during the short time I had my paws on the sample, so I can't comment on that at the moment. The comments I've been seeing on other videos have been mixed but actually in favour of it working OK. I'm still on the 'I'll believe it when I see it' side of the fence, just because of what it is, but according to a few users out there, it worked pretty well with minimal bleed.
Rob Brown I assume you mean using it live as in going to front of house but what I’ve been curious about is how well it might work to monitor myself better? I use in ears to protect my ears and do my best to get what I can through them but when monitoring consideration at a venue is minimal (often just vocal) I can’t always mic up just for me and therefore judge my balance to the rest of the band and feel my hats are drowned out by guitar cabs etc. . I’m told it sounds fine out front but if the EAD10 could mean I can hear myself in my ears without a massive setup I’d buy one immediately!
That’s an interesting idea, man. Assuming you’re using a small mixer, you could indeed plug it into a channel or two just to hear yourself better. Because you can turn yourself up in it’ll most likely help you control your volume in ‘loud’ rooms by preventing you from hitting harder. Using my UE7s I was getting tons of volume in my ears while barely touching the kit. Give it a shot.
Rob Brown Hi Rob!! It is clear from the title that you are being fare and square about what you now about this product so far. I 've been looking all the videos from "real life situations", but they are really not. Real is bass amp to your left, guitar amp on your right... As far I understand, to equally represent tom, snare, bd - you have to manipulate it with a lot of compression within EAD. That compression could interpret bleed as actual drum sound and amplify it to the level of drum components. I only trust you to test this device. Hope to hear from you soon!!! Best regards, Mladjan
Hi I bought one of these a few weeks ago and on the whole I think it is a great idea. Unfortunately I seem to be having issues with the kick trigger as I had to crank the sensitivity up to almost max to get any response out of it. Initially I thought I had a faulty sensor unit so I sent it back and got a replacement. But the new one is the same, I have to turn up the sensitivity very high and wack the hell out of the kick and even then it it isn't consistently responsive. Any going to spend a few hours this weekend to try and bottom it out. But I would be interested if any users have had the same issue, just try the trigger with the mic off and no effects. However I have tried it live and this unit saved my life at a gig last week (at the Cavern in Liverpool), my normal drum monitor feed through my IEM's was just awful, couldn't get it right so at the break I connected the EAD10 into my little mixer, turned all my normal drum feeds off (via the tablet app) and mixed the feed from the EA10 into the mix and it was great, it even removed that feeling of isolation that you get via IEM's due to the ambiance via the mics on the sensor. Also I play in Genesis tribute band so I have a bit kit (8 drums) and it picked them all up no problem with very little bleed from the rest of the band although admittedly there isn't a lot of on stage amplification as everything is DI'd. So once I get my trigger issues sorted out I will be a happy bunny with this piece of kit.
Hi. I play in a tribute band and I have the module. I'm finding it troublesome to avoid feedback issues at small venues so I have been trying various methods to reduce that. I use 3 trigger pads in addition and the problem is getting those effects amplified enough through the PA without causing the feedback. I came close to getting it acceptable but that involved switching the microphone to a minus setting. It still picked up the acoustic kit but the sound guy did say he needed to mic the kick drum so when I got home I assumed I would be able to rebalance the kick sensor by increasing the sensitivity of the kick trigger but I seem to be having your problem. I would be very keen to share experience of this. We have bought some IEM's now and I thought that might assist but at a gig at the weekend I was finding that the module was feeding back at low Master volume and therefore I assumed that was caused by the on stage amplification being used by my bandmates. Any help from anyone would be great please. I love this thing. I used to trigger everything through a Roland but it is fiddly and it replicates rather than enhances acoustic drums and I prefer this solution if I can get it to work properly in small live venues.
Rob, one item I find important is that the EAD10 with its live mics used in a live band situation and when it’s output is connected to the main PA for the drum inputs to main PA will also pickup the rest of the band instruments and vocals, which would be a bad thing. The EAD10 is only applicable where the drums are isolated from any other instruments and vocals (including the drummers vocals) in the vicinity of the EAD10 mics.
Just got one for our drummer last 1st gig sound check in 30sec. At first low end feedback, I loaded in a kick drum patch on the mixer channel for the gate then I flatten out the EQ . Never a problem after that. Regular drum mics always pick up every thing on stage, it comes with the live music experience. Less mic cables too wrap up at the end of the night is my favorite part👍 Definitely worth every penny
of course it does..that's why that El Estepario Siberiano dude says you have to remove your toms to even use this mic properly. pics up 'everything' . I don't consider it a serious product for recording.. but only if you want to capture ideas to later refine
hey Rob.that was a awesome video,thanks for sharing I really thinking about to get one and i need to know if this works for a live situation as well thanks a lot man
Yea, I don't know, man. Another drummer acquaintance of mine plays for a popular country artist out in Saskatchewan. He decided to use it in some live settings and it worked out for him in some decent sized venues
Can it be used live as a microphone only without those gimmicks, so two channels directly into the mixer to bypass setting all the standard microphones and reduce the feedback?
Nice use of Sevendust as the app example.. was only just playing along to the season's album tonight myself! So that blew my mind. I live in Australia in a regional town so first hand information on products like this is limited.. so far its blowing my mind with the ease of a triggered hybrid setup compared to the traditional method, which i personally use my td30 module for.. i would love to know how this thing goes in a gigging live performance situation! Enjoy all your videos mate so cheers from down under!
I heard there is now an android app...is that true? Thanks Rob, I love your approach to this....and your teaching style is captivating...bottom line is every time I apply more time on your stuff I get better.
Thanks for sharing. Im just getting into this. Im waiting on mine to arrive and in gonna start uploading videos myself. This was very helpful. Much love!
Yes I would consider it to be good for recording however you might want to purchase the snare and kick drum triggers so it can better pick up the sounds
Yes. If you're wanting demo quality home recordings, this thing is amazing. It will record the entire kit all by itself. However, I reccomend ADDING the snare and tom triggers to your ead10. Though they're not necessary, they give you better control and more options. Overhead mics aren't a necessity, because the ead10 does a pretty good job of recording the entire kit. But just like the ttiggers, overhead mics will definitely make your recordings sound better. It will also give you a more stereo sound. When you decide to get some overhead mics, I reccomend HEIL PR31BW. They're directional dynamic mics that work well with guitar, sax, organs, snares, toms, overheads, and just about everything else you can imagine. But I use mine for overheads because they filter out background noise like air conditioning, passing cars, etc. So they're great for home recordings. Most homes aren't well treated for recording, and the HEIL PR31BW as overheads really help. (Sorry if this sounds like a HEIL commercial... I just love their mics)😊
It's a bit pricey for me. But I use an external condenser mic, in a laptop and run it through GarageBand with a separate track of imported songs I play to on playback. I use and extension cable for my headphones. So I hear what GarageBand hears and I can use filters with some EQ & reverb, compression after since I record dry. For an ambient-style drum recording, it's not bad. Nothing beats mic-ing the drums individually, but I use practice rooms and don't want to waste rent time for set-up. I still need to adjust the drums to my body. I prep the tracks, mic sensitivity and have it open so I can get started as soon as possible. I would like to use this EAD10.
Rob, Great video as always. I'm definitely close to pulling the trigger on this. Keep on doing what you do, your videos are great and very informative. As a side note, don't know where you are in the North but are you digging the Raptor's? IMHO if any body can dethrone "The Town" it's them and I'm a Philly boy
Sorry new to this electric thing but if I understand this right, if I play this live, you can get it set to whatever sound you like and then run 1 cable to the PA or mixing board? and it will come through the monitors and mains?
super dope and insightful video Rob! I just got my EAD-10 2 weeks ago and still dialing it in, stoked to get to know it more. What Mic and trigger sensativities did you find most successful or did you use "auto-set the room" option? Thanks man! --Jeff, SF, Ca.
Just pick up the EAD10. Very cool video Rob! New subscriber here. Haven’t begun playing with it yet. How do I find your 10 coolest presets, or scenes? Will probably use it more for live situations. Thanks!
Rob, nice break down on the EAD 10. After watching reviews and demos from NADD, I'm thinking about getting one, and I was going to ask on the Live situation as well, but I see you answered that. As always thanks for the informative video.
@@thejollylamas it won't as it comes as a single module. There are 2 condenser mics in a single ead10. In other words, you would be able to capture the sound of the left and the right environment, but not individual drum components
dude, but from what i understand it is sampled / triggered. It's not the sound of your drums themselves that it modulates, right? Do you think it would work to blend this sound with traditional mikes in a mix? (Maybe use it to shape the sound and give it character blending with the sound of the mikes?)
That El Estepario Siberiano guy just talked about it.. he says its unusable if you have toms on your kit and no muffling on pretty much every drum.. the guy has an unorthodox approach to begin with..so I'm rather sus of his approach. I personally hate his kit sound. NO dynamics..but he did reveal why his kit sounds like that..because of this unit. Odd he wouldn't use multi-mics like you do.
Hey Rob, have you ever downloaded your own samples into the EAD? If so, how did you do it? I’m really starting to dive into using this thing more and more for all applications and the manual isn’t very clear on how to do it and I haven’t found any videos thus far on how to do it? Any help is appreciated man!!! Love the channel!!!
Hello fellow drummer, I also own the ead10. Best way to do it is to use a USB drive and import the files into your module. Files need to be wav. format. Hope this helps. It took me a while to figure this out myself a couple months ago.
Do you need a laptop and a DAW to record the sound of the drumkit? Everyon are talking about "Too bad this doesnt work on Android". Im confused. Do you run this EAD10 through a phone app? How do you record the sounds of the drums with this EAD module?
You don't need a computer. You can record and playback straight on the ead for one minute or you can connect a USB flash drive to the module and record up to 30 minutes.
Hey, great vids, and great drumming dude! (Your vid on bass drum tuning changed my life) Any idea if the app that comes whit this is compatible with android phones? Erik.
Great video! thank you very much. I have a question, If I send the signal from the module to a PA system, can I send just the bass drum trigger? without the other parts of the drum?
yes me too. I need some help getting it to work effectively with acoustic and triggered pads in small live venues. The issue is avoiding feedback but getting settings right to hear the triggered pads at equivalent volume to the rest of the kit. I have tried reducing the mic sensitivity (curiously it goes into minus as well as positive settings). This allows the Master vol to be increased but without triggering the feedback. But that's only been in rehearsal.
@@richeichelberg2179 Hi, sorry I´m 2 years late(? but i just saw your comment. I own a EAD10 for 2 years now... and it is amazing. And YES it does work in a live situation. The audio bleed from other instruments is minimal. The thing is just go plug and play! With the aux out that the module has, u send that to the sound mixer, adjust volume... and is done. I have used several times live now, and it never dissapointed me. Of course, it is for small size venues / pubs / clubs, but then again, the preparation for those shows (setting drums, setting mics, sound check, etc,.) is reduced by a lot. And, you must have all the audio in ear for you, and avoid having audio monitors near. I highly recommend it! Sorry for my english , I´m a spanish speaker, hope this is useful for you!
Just a word of warning here based on my experience. Make sure that the unit is fixed right up against the bass drum hoop. I have had problems hearing the trigger. I tried all sorts of settings then re-read the Manual. It says the two sensors built into the unit have to be in contact with the bass drum hoop. I doublecked mine and could see a very slight gap. Problem is that you can only force the unit up against the head so far and depending on the width of your hoop, contact might not be possible. I tried loosening the head right down which then established the contact. I dont know if the unit itself can be fiddled with to adjust the position of the sensors so that one of them can be altered to get a better contact. Anyone had this issue?
I also had issues with the actual triggering for the kick drum couldn't get it fine tuned so I purchased the footblaster triggers and installed them into the Yamaha ead10. I still use the mic from the ead10 but turned off the actual trigger to the built in mic.
Hey, Rob. Do you have any workarounds/fixes to get the Rec'n'Share app to work with audio files? It keeps saying every audio file I try to open is not compatible.
Thanks for posting this brother I've been interested in EAD10. Do you know if it works with silent mesh drum heads, or would you need to purchase extra triggers?
This doesn't work when blending EAD's sound and acoustic sound: shells are ok but we can hear 2 differents hi-hats. Doesn't feel natural at all! I guess it's the same problem with crashes. I had the same issue trying to layer cymbals in Superior Drummer 3. You cannot stack 2 cymbal sounds if they are to different.
How does it work in terms of dynamics? I don't have much experience with triggers, but from what I know it almost doesn't matter how hard or soft you hit, they always sound the same.
Triggers have gotten much better over the years. That definitely used to be the case, though. This EAD does a pretty good job of picking up the nuances
Hey Rob, I need some help with my Yamaha eda10 I set it up and I went to the module and I was playing with us scenes and when I do scenes somehow when I do it it just take me to the homepage again it just stopped working I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but it exit the scene menu when I’m on it and also when I do it I do it right but sometimes I don’t do it right so I don’t know what I’m doing wrong or right like how you do the scenes and keep it on there for good and also I’m doing this when I’m completely blind like I lost my eye vision back in 2018 due to infection so I’m texting you with my voice over on my iPhone and this is very frustrating when I play with this one if I have my eye vision I could do this way faster turn off the light is very frustrating is all the knobs and buttons so how do I go to the scenes and just keep it on there and just and do something else without losing the scenes please help thanks
Hey Rob , I have the typical 1up 2 down configuration on my kit and was wondering how well it picks up the second floor tom and if it doesn't do it well could you add a mic to the tom and plug it into the EAD ?
Can the Microphone be attached somewhere besides the Bass Drum? I play a Rack and sit pretty low, my Ride sits directly above my Bass Drum about 3" so I'm wondering if that might take away from picking up the rest of the Kit. Mine should arrive in a day or 2 but figured I'd throw the question out If anyone has experience with this (Positioning of the Mic).
I downloaded rec n share app, downloaded some songs from apple music and the app keeps telling me „This data cannot be selected” under each song. Any idea whats going on ? Dope video tho !
songs downloaded from apple music - not itunes - have special encryptions on them. You need to buy the song on itunes, or find a sneaky work around, such as setting the output to a digital input and then recording it in garageband or logic pro
mikeshouse2000 I use it live myself and absolutely love it! In small to medium venues, no overheads needed!!! It picks up my whole 4 piece kit with 4 crash cymbals, a ride, a set of hats, and a splash. I have the kick miked internally so it has that solid natural punch to it though. Other then that, I don’t bother with any other Mics. I bought this unit with the intent of not having to mic anything at all! Plus it works great as a monitoring system. Not only for you, but the rest of your band can hear your kit at a reasonable level! Check the unit out! I do a lot of hybrid drumming and had the Roland TM-2. It is a really nice, easy to use module, but the EAD hands down, blows the competition away and takes hybrid drumming to the next level! Plus, there is just so much more it is capable of then any other module in the market at an affordable price!!!
mikeshouse2000 I use in ears. So does the rest of my band. They can adjust how loud the kit is in their ears now. They love that I use this now. Before I just had a Roland TM-2 so it was just triggering a few sounds. Now I’m miking the whole kit, and triggering sounds and samples all from one module. I love this thing!
you have my attention! I have giiged twice with this and also in rehearsal and I am finding that the mic feeds back badly with the Master vol set at anything over 9am. I have tried a few things. Reducing the sensor mic sensitivity right down to -1. I use triggered pads too and my problem was getting enought volume through the PA to balance with the colume of the acoustic drums. Doing this reduced the feedback but it's not yet perfect. My band plays small live venues. I love the simplicity and pureness of the module but so far Im not getting enough volume throiught my triggered pads. Would be very interested in your views on avoiding feedback and settings generally
Andy Tizzer you can go in the settings and adjust the volume, sensitivity, etc. of each individual pad. Also adjust the sensor/trigger separately. My band had some issues with this on our first initial run as well. I just messed around with the settings til we got it right. You just may need to take some extra time at practice with the band, or even if you have some extra time at the venue to mess around with it? Once you get it dialed in, it’s great for the smaller venues!!!
The what I dub the "alien kit" sounded kinda cool.I was wondering if were you talking into the EAD10 or overheads? Also is there a limit to how many toms it can pick up? Another great video and yamaha product r review. Yamaha EAD10👊
Right on, sounds like a perfect fit for the 4 or 5 piece standard kit setups like in most recording studios. Also I wonder if a drum shield would help the EAD10 pick up the far drums.
i really don’t understand these when you can get an interface, mic and mic stand for ~$200-300, mic it in front of the kit, behind the kit or the “wurst” position and have it sound 10x better than these. only pro to these is the trigger but i assume most people dont even use the trigger
@@whaattheef2169 buying used will be your best bet. Can easily get a good 2 channel interface for $100-$150. Same with mics. Either a big music shop chain that sells used gear or Reverb if you want to order online. If you want new, can easily get everything for ~$300-$350. A nice single or two channel interface ($100-200) a decent mic usually run $100, and an xlr cable/mic stand will be another $60/$80. Also try and look for kits. Focusrite and presonus have starter kits that come with an interface, condenser mic and shitty headphones. Those go for around $300.
Nice for adding effects and triggering, but lightyears away from how a kit sounds when properly mic'ed. It really doesn't work as a substitute for micing up individual drums.
Rob I've got a serious question: Do you have an email so I can contact you to ask about your recording prices for drum tracks, as well as getting you material (if you want it) if you were to want music tracks without drums to use on your channel? I've got a catalog of material, I've written and recorded with bands and session musicians, that I own the rights to including the masters. I really love what you do, and you're teaching this old guitarist a thing or ten on the drums. I'm highly appreciative, and as so I would like to give back in any way I can.
Not really, no. If you had triggers on the drums, yea. But it’s a microphone as much as a trigger so the unit needs to hear your drums to trigger the scenes
I would love to see someone try using the Yamaha EAD10 with the RTOM Blackhole over their regular acoustic heads and a set of Zildjian L-80 low volume cymbals too. Wondering if you can use triggers over the RTOM rims or wether you would need to use triggers mounted inside the drum shells instead
Does the EAD pick up the cymbals and process them? Was the part in the video where you say its just the EAD, cymbals were coming through, was that your overheads picking up the cymbals?
That is a huge selling point then. id use this for monitoring my kit in my inears instead of going thru hell with the sound guy getting the sound right in my head
I was just responding to another drummer here in the comment section who is considering using one for personal monitoring. It’s a great freakin idea, man. Kinda wish I thought of that while I was shooting this 🙂
Again, definitely worth it! I use it live for monitoring, metronome for certain songs, plus triggers, and I use it as my overheads and just mic the kick! It works fabulous!!! I can’t believe there’s people on other videos for this product saying how dumb and useless it is!!! They have no clue!!!
drumfanatik316 can you friend me on FB I have a few questions on the EAD you may be able to answer. My profile has a Toronto Maple Leaf sweater with 27 on the back thanks
BTW: You have one of the BEST drum channels on UA-cam
Agree with you 100% ... this thing is cool... I just got one and it completely transformed my practices....
Hey y'all. I haven't had the opportunity to use the EAD10 in a live situation during the short time I had my paws on the sample, so I can't comment on that at the moment. The comments I've been seeing on other videos have been mixed but actually in favour of it working OK. I'm still on the 'I'll believe it when I see it' side of the fence, just because of what it is, but according to a few users out there, it worked pretty well with minimal bleed.
Rob Brown I assume you mean using it live as in going to front of house but what I’ve been curious about is how well it might work to monitor myself better? I use in ears to protect my ears and do my best to get what I can through them but when monitoring consideration at a venue is minimal (often just vocal) I can’t always mic up just for me and therefore judge my balance to the rest of the band and feel my hats are drowned out by guitar cabs etc. . I’m told it sounds fine out front but if the EAD10 could mean I can hear myself in my ears without a massive setup I’d buy one immediately!
That’s an interesting idea, man. Assuming you’re using a small mixer, you could indeed plug it into a channel or two just to hear yourself better. Because you can turn yourself up in it’ll most likely help you control your volume in ‘loud’ rooms by preventing you from hitting harder. Using my UE7s I was getting tons of volume in my ears while barely touching the kit. Give it a shot.
Rob Brown Hi Rob!! It is clear from the title that you are being fare and square about what you now about this product so far. I 've been looking all the videos from "real life situations", but they are really not. Real is bass amp to your left, guitar amp on your right... As far I understand, to equally represent tom, snare, bd - you have to manipulate it with a lot of compression within EAD. That compression could interpret bleed as actual drum sound and amplify it to the level of drum components.
I only trust you to test this device.
Hope to hear from you soon!!!
Best regards,
Mladjan
Hi I bought one of these a few weeks ago and on the whole I think it is a great idea. Unfortunately I seem to be having issues with the kick trigger as I had to crank the sensitivity up to almost max to get any response out of it. Initially I thought I had a faulty sensor unit so I sent it back and got a replacement. But the new one is the same, I have to turn up the sensitivity very high and wack the hell out of the kick and even then it it isn't consistently responsive. Any going to spend a few hours this weekend to try and bottom it out. But I would be interested if any users have had the same issue, just try the trigger with the mic off and no effects.
However I have tried it live and this unit saved my life at a gig last week (at the Cavern in Liverpool), my normal drum monitor feed through my IEM's was just awful, couldn't get it right so at the break I connected the EAD10 into my little mixer, turned all my normal drum feeds off (via the tablet app) and mixed the feed from the EA10 into the mix and it was great, it even removed that feeling of isolation that you get via IEM's due to the ambiance via the mics on the sensor. Also I play in Genesis tribute band so I have a bit kit (8 drums) and it picked them all up no problem with very little bleed from the rest of the band although admittedly there isn't a lot of on stage amplification as everything is DI'd.
So once I get my trigger issues sorted out I will be a happy bunny with this piece of kit.
Hi. I play in a tribute band and I have the module. I'm finding it troublesome to avoid feedback issues at small venues so I have been trying various methods to reduce that. I use 3 trigger pads in addition and the problem is getting those effects amplified enough through the PA without causing the feedback. I came close to getting it acceptable but that involved switching the microphone to a minus setting. It still picked up the acoustic kit but the sound guy did say he needed to mic the kick drum so when I got home I assumed I would be able to rebalance the kick sensor by increasing the sensitivity of the kick trigger but I seem to be having your problem. I would be very keen to share experience of this. We have bought some IEM's now and I thought that might assist but at a gig at the weekend I was finding that the module was feeding back at low Master volume and therefore I assumed that was caused by the on stage amplification being used by my bandmates. Any help from anyone would be great please. I love this thing. I used to trigger everything through a Roland but it is fiddly and it replicates rather than enhances acoustic drums and I prefer this solution if I can get it to work properly in small live venues.
Rob, one item I find important is that the EAD10 with its live mics used in a live band situation and when it’s output is connected to the main PA for the drum inputs to main PA will also pickup the rest of the band instruments and vocals, which would be a bad thing. The EAD10 is only applicable where the drums are isolated from any other instruments and vocals (including the drummers vocals) in the vicinity of the EAD10 mics.
Just got one for our drummer last 1st gig sound check in 30sec. At first low end feedback, I loaded in a kick drum patch on the mixer channel for the gate then I flatten out the EQ . Never a problem after that. Regular drum mics always pick up every thing on stage, it comes with the live music experience. Less mic cables too wrap up at the end of the night is my favorite part👍
Definitely worth every penny
of course it does..that's why that El Estepario Siberiano dude says you have to remove your toms to even use this mic properly. pics up 'everything' . I don't consider it a serious product for recording.. but only if you want to capture ideas to later refine
It’s just a pair of mics. Works exactly like any other drum mic as far as bleed.
Hi Rob, Great video. Would you mind doing a test with the Black Hole from RTOM and the EAD10
the app alone is amazing to me! i wonder if there is any way to use it with spotify?
Loved everything about this video!
App is Rec n' Share
Great review. Bought it just with the boost in practice potential it offers in mind. Amazing practice tool. Psyched to get started!
This review finally sold me on this thing
Best video I have seen about the Ead10. Gonna buy one now. Please say that Tony Thompson is one of your favorite drummers!!
hey Rob.that was a awesome video,thanks for sharing
I really thinking about to get one and i need to know if this works for a live situation as well
thanks a lot man
Yea, I don't know, man. Another drummer acquaintance of mine plays for a popular country artist out in Saskatchewan. He decided to use it in some live settings and it worked out for him in some decent sized venues
thanks bro!! when u have some feedback on it let me know I'm thinking in small venues like a clubs and bars places that they never mic the whole set
Can it be used live as a microphone only without those gimmicks, so two channels directly into the mixer to bypass setting all the standard microphones and reduce the feedback?
Nice use of Sevendust as the app example.. was only just playing along to the season's album tonight myself! So that blew my mind. I live in Australia in a regional town so first hand information on products like this is limited.. so far its blowing my mind with the ease of a triggered hybrid setup compared to the traditional method, which i personally use my td30 module for.. i would love to know how this thing goes in a gigging live performance situation! Enjoy all your videos mate so cheers from down under!
I heard there is now an android app...is that true? Thanks Rob, I love your approach to this....and your teaching style is captivating...bottom line is every time I apply more time on your stuff I get better.
Wow......I like how it can be used as a separate drum track on any DAW. I guess placing it in different spots will sound different....right?
So can this be hooked up directly into a DAW and live record immediately?
Thanks for sharing. Im just getting into this. Im waiting on mine to arrive and in gonna start uploading videos myself. This was very helpful. Much love!
I was watching this video and my daughter said that it sounded like me playing. I take that as a great compliment. She had no idea.
I'm a rookie and don't have any drum mics but I want to record music for my band. is the EAD good for that?
Yes I would consider it to be good for recording however you might want to purchase the snare and kick drum triggers so it can better pick up the sounds
@@MrHorse115 the EAD is a trigger
@@klawn9059 yes it's a trigger but Yamaha sells individual triggers to toms/snare so you could connect that for better sound pickup
@@klawn9059 it's a stereo mic with kick trigger function.
Yes. If you're wanting demo quality home recordings, this thing is amazing. It will record the entire kit all by itself. However, I reccomend ADDING the snare and tom triggers to your ead10. Though they're not necessary, they give you better control and more options.
Overhead mics aren't a necessity, because the ead10 does a pretty good job of recording the entire kit. But just like the ttiggers, overhead mics will definitely make your recordings sound better. It will also give you a more stereo sound.
When you decide to get some overhead mics, I reccomend HEIL PR31BW. They're directional dynamic mics that work well with guitar, sax, organs, snares, toms, overheads, and just about everything else you can imagine. But I use mine for overheads because they filter out background noise like air conditioning, passing cars, etc. So they're great for home recordings. Most homes aren't well treated for recording, and the HEIL PR31BW as overheads really help. (Sorry if this sounds like a HEIL commercial... I just love their mics)😊
awesome video! i was on the fence about buying this until your video explained all the cool stuff it could do. Thanks!
Wow dude your amazing, this was so detailed!
"The dog bark sample on a keyboard." LOL!!!! Blast from the tacky past:-)
It's a bit pricey for me. But I use an external condenser mic, in a laptop and run it through GarageBand with a separate track of imported songs I play to on playback. I use and extension cable for my headphones. So I hear what GarageBand hears and I can use filters with some EQ & reverb, compression after since I record dry. For an ambient-style drum recording, it's not bad. Nothing beats mic-ing the drums individually, but I use practice rooms and don't want to waste rent time for set-up. I still need to adjust the drums to my body. I prep the tracks, mic sensitivity and have it open so I can get started as soon as possible.
I would like to use this EAD10.
Yeah I wanted to get a mic setup but the price would be ahead of this as well so I pulled the trigger on this
Rob, Great video as always. I'm definitely close to pulling the trigger on this. Keep on doing what you do, your videos are great and very informative. As a side note, don't know where you are in the North but are you digging the Raptor's? IMHO if any body can dethrone "The Town" it's them and I'm a Philly boy
Sorry new to this electric thing but if I understand this right, if I play this live, you can get it set to whatever sound you like and then run 1 cable to the PA or mixing board? and it will come through the monitors and mains?
super dope and insightful video Rob! I just got my EAD-10 2 weeks ago and still dialing it in, stoked to get to know it more. What Mic and trigger sensativities did you find most successful or did you use "auto-set the room" option? Thanks man! --Jeff, SF, Ca.
thank you for this review. they help me so much !!
Just pick up the EAD10.
Very cool video Rob! New subscriber here. Haven’t begun playing with it yet. How do I find your 10 coolest presets, or scenes? Will probably use it more for live situations. Thanks!
Rob, nice break down on the EAD 10. After watching reviews and demos from NADD, I'm thinking about getting one, and I was going to ask on the Live situation as well, but I see you answered that. As always thanks for the informative video.
I trust Rob Brown!
Does it separate each of the instruments of the drum kit for midi recording that can then be applied to a custom drum kit piano roll in your DAW?
can you put another mic into the module? i know you can plug in some extra triggers
I really dig your videos, Rob. Thank you !!
Great video.....I have mics and a laptop and a powered mixer but stuck there.....what are u using under your laptop here and for software?
Being able to plug into your computer via usb, will I have multiple channels to mix in my daw with if I’m using multiple triggers (3triggers)
Great review, I just bought mine. Did you use extra mics to pic up your cymbals?
Since the device microphone seems to recognize separate elements is it possible to import this as MIDI into a DAW?
Also want to know this!
yes also wanting to find this out!
Yep, this midi controller easily connects to any DAWs
@@patrickfa6994 Cool, When connecting the EAD10 into a DAW as midi, does it differentiate between the kick, snare, tom etc?
@@thejollylamas it won't as it comes as a single module. There are 2 condenser mics in a single ead10. In other words, you would be able to capture the sound of the left and the right environment, but not individual drum components
dude, but from what i understand it is sampled / triggered. It's not the sound of your drums themselves that it modulates, right? Do you think it would work to blend this sound with traditional mikes in a mix? (Maybe use it to shape the sound and give it character blending with the sound of the mikes?)
Nice review. Thanks for sharing.
Really great video Rob. Cheers
Hey my brother, do you know if you can use this thing with jamkazam or any of the live practice collaborations with other musicians online?
Is there a good way to hook the EAD10 into a mixer or computer to record into Pro Tools? Thanks!
Would this record well on a Low volume kit with no triggers, only rtom black holes and l80s
That El Estepario Siberiano guy just talked about it.. he says its unusable if you have toms on your kit and no muffling on pretty much every drum.. the guy has an unorthodox approach to begin with..so I'm rather sus of his approach. I personally hate his kit sound. NO dynamics..but he did reveal why his kit sounds like that..because of this unit. Odd he wouldn't use multi-mics like you do.
Hey Rob, have you ever downloaded your own samples into the EAD? If so, how did you do it? I’m really starting to dive into using this thing more and more for all applications and the manual isn’t very clear on how to do it and I haven’t found any videos thus far on how to do it? Any help is appreciated man!!! Love the channel!!!
Hello fellow drummer,
I also own the ead10. Best way to do it is to use a USB drive and import the files into your module. Files need to be wav. format. Hope this helps. It took me a while to figure this out myself a couple months ago.
Do you need a laptop and a DAW to record the sound of the drumkit?
Everyon are talking about "Too bad this doesnt work on Android". Im confused. Do you run this EAD10 through a phone app?
How do you record the sounds of the drums with this EAD module?
You don't need a computer. You can record and playback straight on the ead for one minute or you can connect a USB flash drive to the module and record up to 30 minutes.
Anyone ever tried blending this into a fully mic’d kit for recording purposes , basically using it as a room mic ?
Yep. Tried recorded a session a few weeks ago like this. I used this guys exact set up. Ead10, overhead, snare, and bass drum
i see you have the quick release cymbal toppers on kit . :)
Yup👌🏽🙂
Hey Rob have you ever used them on silent heads/ Remo/? and what do they sound like
Hey, great vids, and great drumming dude! (Your vid on bass drum tuning changed my life)
Any idea if the app that comes whit this is compatible with android phones?
Erik.
Far as I know it’s just iOS for now, man. Most developers tend to focus on the Apple side of the game
It's been a while but now you can get it for Android as well!
Sevendust!! Great review Rob 👍🏼
That Seasons record is a freakin CLASSIC ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Yeah man! Good stuff. Morgan Rose is beast.
Great video! thank you very much. I have a question, If I send the signal from the module to a PA system, can I send just the bass drum trigger? without the other parts of the drum?
Thanks and Blessings Rob!!!
Love mine!!!
It’s amazing!
Great review bob!!
Great video Rob
Love how that sounds Rob! The most asked question has to be " How does it sound live? " Looking forward to that review!
yes me too. I need some help getting it to work effectively with acoustic and triggered pads in small live venues. The issue is avoiding feedback but getting settings right to hear the triggered pads at equivalent volume to the rest of the kit. I have tried reducing the mic sensitivity (curiously it goes into minus as well as positive settings). This allows the Master vol to be increased but without triggering the feedback. But that's only been in rehearsal.
Please let me know how it all works out Andy.
@@richeichelberg2179 Hi, sorry I´m 2 years late(? but i just saw your comment. I own a EAD10 for 2 years now... and it is amazing. And YES it does work in a live situation. The audio bleed from other instruments is minimal. The thing is just go plug and play! With the aux out that the module has, u send that to the sound mixer, adjust volume... and is done.
I have used several times live now, and it never dissapointed me. Of course, it is for small size venues / pubs / clubs, but then again, the preparation for those shows (setting drums, setting mics, sound check, etc,.) is reduced by a lot. And, you must have all the audio in ear for you, and avoid having audio monitors near. I highly recommend it! Sorry for my english , I´m a spanish speaker, hope this is useful for you!
Can you use it without the bass trigger? I would rather just have my bass drum picked up by mic.
Sevendust - nice (Morgan). Can you run this through a Simmons electric kit amp? Thanks man and enjoy your channel
Can you put your favourite cds into it or songs without using iTunes?
Have you tried the Yamaha triggers on all drums??
Can you record in your daw?
Just a word of warning here based on my experience. Make sure that the unit is fixed right up against the bass drum hoop. I have had problems hearing the trigger. I tried all sorts of settings then re-read the Manual. It says the two sensors built into the unit have to be in contact with the bass drum hoop. I doublecked mine and could see a very slight gap. Problem is that you can only force the unit up against the head so far and depending on the width of your hoop, contact might not be possible. I tried loosening the head right down which then established the contact. I dont know if the unit itself can be fiddled with to adjust the position of the sensors so that one of them can be altered to get a better contact. Anyone had this issue?
I also had issues with the actual triggering for the kick drum couldn't get it fine tuned so I purchased the footblaster triggers and installed them into the Yamaha ead10. I still use the mic from the ead10 but turned off the actual trigger to the built in mic.
The trigger sucks, use an alternate trigger if using kick sounds is a priority.
Hey, Rob. Do you have any workarounds/fixes to get the Rec'n'Share app to work with audio files? It keeps saying every audio file I try to open is not compatible.
Thanks for posting this brother I've been interested in EAD10. Do you know if it works with silent mesh drum heads, or would you need to purchase extra triggers?
you need extra triggers.
Great review!
Hi am I’m choosing between this or say PN sound kit and also can you hook Yamaha 10 up to the PA speakers or April fire I mean amplifier
Where can we see your top 10 presets?
is it a trigger/mic for each tom,snare, bass or just one that mounts on the bass drum to give you all of the trigger sounds?
Just bass drum
This doesn't work when blending EAD's sound and acoustic sound: shells are ok but we can hear 2 differents hi-hats. Doesn't feel natural at all! I guess it's the same problem with crashes.
I had the same issue trying to layer cymbals in Superior Drummer 3. You cannot stack 2 cymbal sounds if they are to different.
Why don't you use it anymore?
Good demo
How do you take the original drum track out of existing UA-cam or iTunes tracks?
can you use it in live performances for a bar band ?
How does it work in terms of dynamics? I don't have much experience with triggers, but from what I know it almost doesn't matter how hard or soft you hit, they always sound the same.
Triggers have gotten much better over the years. That definitely used to be the case, though. This EAD does a pretty good job of picking up the nuances
Will it work with double bass or do you have to Buy an additional trigger
How would this work on a home kit with RTOM mesh pads and low volume cymbals?
Hey Rob, I need some help with my Yamaha eda10 I set it up and I went to the module and I was playing with us scenes and when I do scenes somehow when I do it it just take me to the homepage again it just stopped working I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but it exit the scene menu when I’m on it and also when I do it I do it right but sometimes I don’t do it right so I don’t know what I’m doing wrong or right like how you do the scenes and keep it on there for good and also I’m doing this when I’m completely blind like I lost my eye vision back in 2018 due to infection so I’m texting you with my voice over on my iPhone and this is very frustrating when I play with this one if I have my eye vision I could do this way faster turn off the light is very frustrating is all the knobs and buttons so how do I go to the scenes and just keep it on there and just and do something else without losing the scenes please help thanks
So I don't need my pro level kits anymore? Idc, no sample sounds like a Paiste!
Loving the hoodie Rob
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Would this be a good tool to plug into one input on my Scarlet 18i8 3rd generation?
You can not pan your drums when using this is it a bad thing?
How does it pick up toms and cymbals if it’s only one mic on the bass drum??
Great vid! Thanks!!!!
Hey Rob , I have the typical 1up 2 down configuration on my kit and was wondering how well it picks up the second floor tom and if it doesn't do it well could you add a mic to the tom and plug it into the EAD ?
I don't think there is a mic input in the EAD. You could add individual mics to the toms and throw it to an interface, on top of the ead
@@patrickfa6994 How do yo do that?
Can the Microphone be attached somewhere besides the Bass Drum? I play a Rack and sit pretty low, my Ride sits directly above my Bass Drum about 3" so I'm wondering if that might take away from picking up the rest of the Kit. Mine should arrive in a day or 2 but figured I'd throw the question out If anyone has experience with this (Positioning of the Mic).
I downloaded rec n share app, downloaded some songs from apple music and the app keeps telling me „This data cannot be selected” under each song. Any idea whats going on ? Dope video tho !
songs downloaded from apple music - not itunes - have special encryptions on them. You need to buy the song on itunes, or find a sneaky work around, such as setting the output to a digital input and then recording it in garageband or logic pro
Hey Rob could hook this up to external monitors Thanks
Hey Rob... Thanks!! Like others here, do you think it would work live.. mixed with an overhead and kick mike?? small venues.. small clubs and such
mikeshouse2000 I use it live myself and absolutely love it! In small to medium venues, no overheads needed!!! It picks up my whole 4 piece kit with 4 crash cymbals, a ride, a set of hats, and a splash. I have the kick miked internally so it has that solid natural punch to it though. Other then that, I don’t bother with any other Mics. I bought this unit with the intent of not having to mic anything at all! Plus it works great as a monitoring system. Not only for you, but the rest of your band can hear your kit at a reasonable level! Check the unit out! I do a lot of hybrid drumming and had the Roland TM-2. It is a really nice, easy to use module, but the EAD hands down, blows the competition away and takes hybrid drumming to the next level! Plus, there is just so much more it is capable of then any other module in the market at an affordable price!!!
Thanks so much for the reply.. do have in ears or a monitor on stage??
mikeshouse2000 I use in ears. So does the rest of my band. They can adjust how loud the kit is in their ears now. They love that I use this now. Before I just had a Roland TM-2 so it was just triggering a few sounds. Now I’m miking the whole kit, and triggering sounds and samples all from one module. I love this thing!
you have my attention! I have giiged twice with this and also in rehearsal and I am finding that the mic feeds back badly with the Master vol set at anything over 9am. I have tried a few things. Reducing the sensor mic sensitivity right down to -1. I use triggered pads too and my problem was getting enought volume through the PA to balance with the colume of the acoustic drums. Doing this reduced the feedback but it's not yet perfect. My band plays small live venues. I love the simplicity and pureness of the module but so far Im not getting enough volume throiught my triggered pads. Would be very interested in your views on avoiding feedback and settings generally
Andy Tizzer you can go in the settings and adjust the volume, sensitivity, etc. of each individual pad. Also adjust the sensor/trigger separately. My band had some issues with this on our first initial run as well. I just messed around with the settings til we got it right. You just may need to take some extra time at practice with the band, or even if you have some extra time at the venue to mess around with it? Once you get it dialed in, it’s great for the smaller venues!!!
Would this still work with drum dampening pads on the kit?
The what I dub the "alien kit" sounded kinda cool.I was wondering if were you talking into the EAD10 or overheads? Also is there a limit to how many toms it can pick up? Another great video and yamaha product r review. Yamaha EAD10👊
It wasn't picking up the far 16" as well, so the tighter/smaller your kit, the better.
Right on, sounds like a perfect fit for the 4 or 5 piece standard kit setups like in most recording studios. Also I wonder if a drum shield would help the EAD10 pick up the far drums.
i really don’t understand these when you can get an interface, mic and mic stand for ~$200-300, mic it in front of the kit, behind the kit or the “wurst” position and have it sound 10x better than these. only pro to these is the trigger but i assume most people dont even use the trigger
Where can I get a good mic setup for cheaper than this? That’s the route I wanted to go but it’s not as cheap as I found
@@whaattheef2169 buying used will be your best bet. Can easily get a good 2 channel interface for $100-$150. Same with mics. Either a big music shop chain that sells used gear or Reverb if you want to order online.
If you want new, can easily get everything for ~$300-$350. A nice single or two channel interface ($100-200) a decent mic usually run $100, and an xlr cable/mic stand will be another $60/$80.
Also try and look for kits. Focusrite and presonus have starter kits that come with an interface, condenser mic and shitty headphones. Those go for around $300.
Nice for adding effects and triggering, but lightyears away from how a kit sounds when properly mic'ed. It really doesn't work as a substitute for micing up individual drums.
That’s not what it’s built for tho lol
Rob I've got a serious question: Do you have an email so I can contact you to ask about your recording prices for drum tracks, as well as getting you material (if you want it) if you were to want music tracks without drums to use on your channel? I've got a catalog of material, I've written and recorded with bands and session musicians, that I own the rights to including the masters. I really love what you do, and you're teaching this old guitarist a thing or ten on the drums. I'm highly appreciative, and as so I would like to give back in any way I can.
Rob i have a question does this ead 10 works with silentstroke Heads and Low volume zildjian?
Not really, no. If you had triggers on the drums, yea. But it’s a microphone as much as a trigger so the unit needs to hear your drums to trigger the scenes
Rob Brown thanks man but only triggers for the the drums right cymbals dont need? Thanks
I would love to see someone try using the Yamaha EAD10 with the RTOM Blackhole over their regular acoustic heads and a set of Zildjian L-80 low volume cymbals too. Wondering if you can use triggers over the RTOM rims or wether you would need to use triggers mounted inside the drum shells instead
Does the EAD pick up the cymbals and process them? Was the part in the video where you say its just the EAD, cymbals were coming through, was that your overheads picking up the cymbals?
That was 100% EAD, man.
That is a huge selling point then. id use this for monitoring my kit in my inears instead of going thru hell with the sound guy getting the sound right in my head
I was just responding to another drummer here in the comment section who is considering using one for personal monitoring. It’s a great freakin idea, man. Kinda wish I thought of that while I was shooting this 🙂
Again, definitely worth it! I use it live for monitoring, metronome for certain songs, plus triggers, and I use it as my overheads and just mic the kick! It works fabulous!!! I can’t believe there’s people on other videos for this product saying how dumb and useless it is!!! They have no clue!!!
drumfanatik316 can you friend me on FB I have a few questions on the EAD you may be able to answer. My profile has a Toronto Maple Leaf sweater with 27 on the back thanks
can use this in place of micing your drums?
I believe u can
How many seperate triggers can i use, if were to use mesh heads
how can you move the recorded videos to social media?? can't figure it out. thanks!
You will need to purchase additional cables and converters on top of the EAD setup
i didnt know you lived in canada wow.
How could I run this through in interface like the focusrite 2i2?