Why Not to Charge a Tesla to 90%, and Which Percentage to Charge to Based on Your Driving

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2020
  • To what percentage should you charge your Tesla battery? There’s a lot of misinformation out there, and not every owner has the same driving needs. Here is a breakdown and understanding of the states of stress and equilibrium or rest in a Tesla battery system, and three scenarios of Tesla drivers and what percentage they should charge their cars too. Some charge to 60%, some to 80%, and some to 100%. Which percentage do you charge to?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 351

  • @davidchan8711
    @davidchan8711 Рік тому +2

    This has hands down been the most informative video I have seen on charging % and battery health - thank you so much!

  • @hopehebdon2113
    @hopehebdon2113 Рік тому +4

    Best advice I’ve seen on charging. You’re right there is so much misinformation out there. I am in the first scenario where I don’t drive a lot and I appreciate the straightforward advice on keeping the battery close to 50%.

  • @ericmarollano6915
    @ericmarollano6915 2 роки тому +2

    I just got my tesla model3 three days ago. Thank you for explaining this. It makes a lot more sense.

  • @raymonewhite4892
    @raymonewhite4892 3 роки тому +11

    I hit the like button just because of the title... Thanks for putting this one together. VERY intriguing information.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Raymone! Saving the world one battery at the time.

  • @roblippert2980
    @roblippert2980 Рік тому

    Something as simple as charging still has me asking questions on proper charging. Your video really addressed this issue in my mind and you were the clearest on proper charging. Thank you for making this clear. I am a new Tesla owner ( model Y) and want my car to pasty. Thank you for a very informative video!

  • @seansigal
    @seansigal 21 день тому

    Drive 300 miles a day. Need to use the full battery every day. This video helped calm the nerves

  • @santanero4vidasantanero4vi54

    I asked my question before your video ended but you answered my question- thank you!

  • @Solarlife-fs3tz
    @Solarlife-fs3tz Рік тому +2

    was charging up to 100% every day, but i am using only 10-15% a day, so after your video, will charge up to 60%, thanks!

  • @Rockythevw
    @Rockythevw Рік тому +10

    I’ve had a model y for 3 months and its main use is to drive 375 km from our home (Calgary )to our cottage in BC. We have EV chargers at both locations so it works well so far. ( we’ll see how we do in colder weather). We charge to 100% before the trip and end up with 20% at the end. I’m going to take your advice and only charge to 60% for daily driving around town. Thx for the explanation. Btw we have solar installations at both locations.

  • @Neogentronyx
    @Neogentronyx Місяць тому

    Thank you! This made a lot of sense

  • @samclark3879
    @samclark3879 Рік тому +1

    Good job! I commute 30 minutes each way daily. About 60 total miles. I charge to 80% every other day. By day 2 I am down to about 40%. Works great.

  • @montycatral1451
    @montycatral1451 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video! I'm a new Tesla Model Y owner and do not drive as much. I have been charging my Tesla to 60% and when it comes down to 35-40% I plug it in.

  • @JoshtheMann3
    @JoshtheMann3 3 роки тому +9

    Well I’ve been a Model S owner for about 3 months now and I’ve been charging to 90% before watching this video, but I only have a 15 min drive to work, so I will start charging only to 50% long term to lengthen my battery’s lifespan! Thank you for the information. Super helpful. When I know I need to go further distance around 30-40 min away after work the next day or over the weekend, I can just charge to 80% the night before! Thank you again! So helpful!

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому

      Congratulations on your Model S! And I'm so stoked I could be of help!

    • @tyranelewis7763
      @tyranelewis7763 3 роки тому

      That's what I have been doing with my MS 85D since Brandon has posted this valuable video

    • @vroomzy1
      @vroomzy1 Рік тому +2

      Do 60% so the battery runs between 40 and 60.. That averages to 50

  • @usmarinecorps05
    @usmarinecorps05 2 роки тому +1

    Well said thanks!

  • @seinhur7085
    @seinhur7085 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your explanation!

  • @Karla-Flr
    @Karla-Flr 3 роки тому +1

    Very good information ! Fine to find your channel !

  • @chrissholes5471
    @chrissholes5471 3 роки тому +2

    I charge to 80% but will probably start charging to 60% now that you discussed equilibrium. Thanks

  • @dusting81
    @dusting81 Рік тому

    I just got a 22 x plaid. I just charged it for the first time last night on my gen 3 charger. 60amp breaker 6 awg wire. Set at 48amp rating in my tesla. I charged it to 90% that's what the guy at tesla when I took delivery said to charge to. Glad I watched this. I drive about 100 to 120 miles a day on average. I will start to charge to 80% next time and see how much % I use and adjust to that to stay within the sweet spot. Thanks for the info.

  • @lbuzzy4961
    @lbuzzy4961 Рік тому +1

    I've had my Model Y LR for about a week. Thank you for the useful information. At this point, I'm probably in that middle use range. If I get a Cybertruck, I'll need to reassess usage, initially!!

  • @MH-so9oz
    @MH-so9oz 2 роки тому +2

    2021 MYP. I charge 2x/week up to 80%. I only drive roughly 150 miles per week, so it rarely gets below 50%. Just passed 10K miles after 18 months of ownership. All seems to be well so far.

  • @stevenlao2494
    @stevenlao2494 3 роки тому +5

    I don't own a tesla at the moment but am planning on working eventually and saving up for a model 3 or the $25,000 model. I think I would switch between situation #1 and #2 currently as some days I drive about 40 min to 1 hr to commute to school and back while some days I chill at home because of quarantine. Thank you for taking the time to do research on the ideal situation to preserve battery life if possible!

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      Awesome goal to save up for! 40-60min is pretty standard, and also a long time to spend on the roads each day. Autopilot will be life-changing someday when you reach your goal. Thank you for taking the time to comment!

  • @adam-newbloom
    @adam-newbloom 2 роки тому +5

    Very well done, thanks for sharing your research with the rest of us. I typically charge to 80% but I hardly Drive at all so I'm going to drop that down to 60% per your recommendation. That makes total sense. I will have enough longer trips to bump up my charge cycles to 90 to 100% just to keep the battery actively happy on occasion.

  • @vroomzy1
    @vroomzy1 Рік тому

    Great video, I'm getting a new MYP and have a charger in my garage. I drive in Sarasota Bradenton area, home of the 2+ minute stop lights, so a trip of 5-10 miles can take from 15 min to 1 hour. The fastest one can expect to travel is about 50 mph. Once in awhile we will take a trip farther out and will travel 1300 miles up north. Thanks for letting me know I should leave my battery overnight at 60%. I was previously planning on 80%. I can easily adjust levels as required. I'm retired and have no commute.

  • @Blessinsz
    @Blessinsz 3 роки тому +2

    Using a m3 Lr 2021 for grubhub deliveries, got it brand new 3 months ago and already got 10k miles on it 🙏 car is amazing!

  • @DJQH
    @DJQH 3 роки тому +2

    2nd. Driving about 50 - 60 miles a day regularly. Thanks!
    I'd been charging to 90 each night. Will lessen that significantly.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      Glad to hear it! Your car will thank you too.

  • @dlloyd17l
    @dlloyd17l 3 роки тому +2

    Great, informative video Brandon! I will be a 1 on most weekends and a 2 during the week.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому

      Thank you Doug! Being a 1 and 2 is the most ideal for most Tesla owners. If you end up having your car do Tesla’s Robotaxi service, the days when you’re a 1 will be quite optimal.

    • @tyranelewis7763
      @tyranelewis7763 3 роки тому

      Same Here.

  • @frodemarkhus3692
    @frodemarkhus3692 Рік тому

    Thanks Mr Nice advcie.

  • @kriswempa5171
    @kriswempa5171 2 місяці тому

    I'm glad I watched this video. I should have my new Model Y within the next week and there is quite a lot to learn about charging these vehicles. I will be using it for daily commutes of about 30 total miles. We also have a couple of vacations this year, one about 150 miles away and another 350 miles away. I'll probably start with charging to 80% daily. For the trips, I'll do 100% to get a feel for how much extra mileage I get. I'm sure I'll make adjustments as I get more familiar with the car.

  • @paul.parson
    @paul.parson Рік тому

    I am making the leap to ALL electric vehicles this month. I have been driving a 2016 Chevy Spark to test the market and love it so far, I charge to 100% because it is only a 80 mile range and I can use most of that. I am looking at a used 2020 Model 3 from Tesla not a third party to replace my BMW 3 series which I will be using for long distance and in town. I will be able to take your advice and keep my battery at about 60%.

  • @SkeenDogger
    @SkeenDogger Рік тому +1

    First time viewing your channel but i charge my Model 3 Performance to 80 percent everyday. Supposedly i get 300 or so miles a day but realistically i get 265 miles on a charge when fully charged.

  • @ronl2463
    @ronl2463 2 роки тому +6

    Tesla says keep plugged in when possible, use level 1 or 2 chargers for daily charging, set daily charge between 50% and 90%, avoid dropping below 20% and going above 90% (when possible)

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому +2

      Yep! This is all true. I learned this as an employee. I learned the content of this video after I learned what Tesla taught me, and wanted to share.

  • @dmounce5513
    @dmounce5513 2 роки тому

    U got your like 👍 enjoyed.

  • @javiergener4887
    @javiergener4887 Рік тому +1

    I’ve own 2014 model s for almost 2 yrs now. I’ve always charged to 90% but going to drop it to 80%. Thx for ur thoughts on charging.

  • @stuartmenzies3928
    @stuartmenzies3928 2 роки тому +1

    Good effort...Im slighty still confused, but will follow your ideas as a retired very low driver.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому

      Thank you, I hope it helps your battery health!

  • @jtoblerone3090
    @jtoblerone3090 Рік тому

    I've had my 2022 Model 3 Long Range for two weeks. I've been charging to 80%, and typically lose 12% traveling to and from work (around 20-30 minutes one way). I haven't had an electrician install my wall charger yet, so I've just been charging it back up to 80% with the mobile charger (110v) overnight when the rates are lesser. I think I'll let the car go down to 60% after watching this video, however. I have solar too, so it's kind of fun to let the solar panels charge the car some over the weekend if I'm not using it.

  • @JeanBaptisteDesJardins
    @JeanBaptisteDesJardins 2 місяці тому

    I am used to charge to 80% daily but I use the car only an hour a day. 70% seems the right spot for daily use and “surprise” longer driving. For long trips, I put at 100% for the road, back to 70% while at the destinations until the day I need to return. Then I out it at 100% again for the road.

  • @reggie-ti2pc
    @reggie-ti2pc 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. Thanks for the info. I have a 2019 M3 SR+. Started at 240 miles of range brand new - after 3 years (bought in 2018) I’m down to 221 total miles on a full charge - is that normal? Been charging every other day to 90%. Never really let the battery sit at 60%. Will try to do that. Will also only charge up to 70-80% from now on. Thank you again.

  • @tomvanwalleghem9112
    @tomvanwalleghem9112 3 роки тому +3

    I drive an average of 20km/day. Will keep charging to 60% as per your recommendation. Thanks for the video, informative and well done!

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому

      Thank you Tom! I hope this helps the health of your battery!

  • @harishms1982
    @harishms1982 3 роки тому +9

    Quite eye opening for someone like me that considered a std range 3 vs long range y. Looks like the long range y may be better if I want to be very mindful of the charging recommendation between 20-80% since I may still get the range also am looking for. Thanks Brandon.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      Happy to help, and even more stoked that this opened your eyes to a couple of the surprises of owning one!

  • @bh9262
    @bh9262 2 роки тому +50

    That should be built into the design of the software. So essentially, when the batteries are charged to 100 %, they are really at 90% of the capacity. The owner shouldn't have to think about it nor be concerned with it.

    • @mshell1959
      @mshell1959 2 роки тому +5

      According to the Frugal Tesla Guy it's in the manual.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому +1

      It’s definitely more effort, Elon has been public about it not being that big of a deal. We don’t have a ton of data on how much it affects battery health yet, but we know for sure it helps.

    • @conradce
      @conradce 2 роки тому +7

      They need to strike a balance between battery longevity and giving owners as much range and flexibility as possible. I wouldn’t want them to derate the battery *too* much, because it’s nice to have the option if needed. I think giving owners the ability to set a charge limit the way they do is the right choice. As least for a tech-oriented control freak like me.
      That said, I suspect they actually have derated the battery some. I.e., I suspect 100% as reported on the Tesla screen doesn’t take the cell voltages as high as 100% on, say, an iPhone. Tesla has to be confident that they will meet their 8-year/192,000 km battery warranty most of the time. (Although that is made easier for them because they only promise it will retain 70% capacity during that time.)

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому +2

      @@conradce I agree ☝️

    • @gerthddyn
      @gerthddyn 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@conradce Without having the resting cell voltage, we don't really know what they are charging to. Is 100% 4.2V or 4.0V? Don't know from the interface. 4.0V is far less stressing. Is 0% considered 3.2V or higher? All we have are vague assurances of "good" and "bad". And all of this behavioral driving is almost irrelevant for the LFP chemistry as they are so different from the standard Li-Ion cells.
      As for the OP commenter, knowing something about your car should be taught to you by the dealer when they deliver it. You have to live with the batteries for the entire time you own the car, which could mean up to 10 years or so (look at the Model S owners with battery issues lately). Giving more information in the interface would be nice, but arbitrarily pulling an Apple for a car that you are paying $42,000 to $133,000 is a bad move. Let the user know what they are doing and establish good driving and ownership habits based on the longevity of a car. ICE owners were always told to change the oil in their car and to not get their car to 0 fuel because it is bad for the engine (and the fuel pump). This is no different.

  • @walkerb1734
    @walkerb1734 2 роки тому +2

    I drive my Model S only about 20-30 miles per day on average. I keep my charge level at 55%. Works for me and my driving habits

  • @kolodenka1
    @kolodenka1 3 роки тому +1

    I just ordered model Y
    Thanks for great information

    • @kolodenka1
      @kolodenka1 3 роки тому +1

      I will be probably at scenario 2
      3 times a week to work 10 miles one way
      Then just church and store

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому

      Congratulations!! What color?

    • @kolodenka1
      @kolodenka1 3 роки тому

      White long range with black wheels and white interior

  • @floodtheinbox
    @floodtheinbox Місяць тому

    I have a ~70mi daily commute and I keep my charge limit to 50% in the summer and 60% in the winter. When I get home I usually have between 22% and 27%

  • @dosmasdos9542
    @dosmasdos9542 2 роки тому +1

    Excelente video ! Saludos

  • @GusScottExley
    @GusScottExley Рік тому

    Do you know if this is true for other EVs? this is such great info. Thanks for making this.

  • @dubyusmc
    @dubyusmc 6 місяців тому

    Appreciate the video, just wanted to know if you have data to back up what you mentioned about keeping the battery around 60-70 percent and how much better it is over x amount of time in terms of degradation va the non-optimal way of charging your car or keeping it in ideal battery state.
    Thanks l, def earned my subscribe.

  • @cherokee180c0
    @cherokee180c0 Рік тому +2

    Great video, but looking for one more piece of advice. Should you purposefully charge to 100% periodically (once per quarter for instance) to balance the entire battery pack? This is true for all the other lithium polymer battery packs I use. I have never charged to 100% yet in 8 months of car ownership and only charge to 95% before leaving on a long road trip. I know you should leave as soon as possible once you reach 100%, but it would seem to me if it is good to recalibrate the system once in a while, long road trips would offer a good opportunity to do that once in a while.

  • @pauld9542
    @pauld9542 7 місяців тому

    I've owned my 3 dual motor for a month. I am re retired and only take short trips to the store every other day or so. Been charging to 70% but I might cut that back to 60% based on your great vid. Love the car and learning about Teslas has been a lot of fun. What about the occasional full charge recommendation ? Any thoughts on that?

  • @freedom68
    @freedom68 Рік тому +5

    I’ve read that if you have an LFP battery you should charge it to 100% at least once a week. Charging it daily to 100% does not hurt it.

    • @lloydrobins6074
      @lloydrobins6074 9 місяців тому

      I have heard this also but I have seen accounts which indicate that they are still just lithium ion batteries that deal with being charged to 100% a bit better. The 50% rule still works for them. I don't know if you need to charge them to 100% periodically for some sort of calibration, though.

  • @CharlieMorgan-manicdrums
    @CharlieMorgan-manicdrums 2 роки тому +1

    I acquired a Model Y long-range in May, and mostly use it round town, so I currently have it set up to never charge above 80% (on my home-based level 2 charger). I’m about to head out on an extended road trip, and will fully charge the night before. I’ve also made a point to avoid using the Supercharger network, unless on a long trip. It might also be relevant to add that I am actually leasing this vehicle over 2 years (15,000 per annum), so I’m also taking care not to exceed my allowance. I also own a 2014 BMW i3, which is almost always used for shorter journeys.

  • @lonerider3168
    @lonerider3168 2 роки тому +1

    scenario number 2

  • @Rajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
    @Rajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 8 місяців тому

    Informative ! Question please . Do you recommend the same for LFP battery too?

  • @mombasadele479
    @mombasadele479 2 роки тому +1

    ​ @Brandon Driver Some manufacturers, like Kia, recommends charging up to 100 once a month. Battery experts on youtube also says that charging to 100% isn't bad at all, since the SOC isn't really 100 because of the buffer. Dropping below 20 is bad though, and also just staying between 80-100. The latter is actually the worst. Make sure to use your car if charging to 100, and let it discharge to at least 50-60.

    • @seiferyentertainment9258
      @seiferyentertainment9258 Рік тому

      Why is dropping below 20 bad? We go to 80% each day, and in the winter return home with 13-15% each day. Would charging to 90% and returning with 23-25% be better in your opinion?

  • @ToreOnYouTube
    @ToreOnYouTube 2 роки тому +1

    My scenario:
    Work Monday to Friday. Most weekends spend at partners house.
    Monday-Thursday:
    30 miles
    Charging at work, locked to 60%
    Friday at work:
    15 miles to work
    Charge to 80%
    150 miles to partner
    Charge to 70% at Supercharger underway after 100 miles
    Sunday:
    Same as Friday just the other way around, end up home with around 60% battery.

  • @esergokeri8600
    @esergokeri8600 Рік тому

    do you think you could do an updated video on this topic? obviously a lot has changed with the batteries and technology of tesla since you made this video

  • @DK-CN
    @DK-CN Рік тому

    I do drive 100 km per day and charge 40% to 80 % , I charge every alternate day , 0 % degradation after 35000 Kilometres, i drive Volkswagen ID6 Full Rage 601 km , I use 200km in between while a/c switched on ( completely agree with you ) 👍

  • @johnsiotis8870
    @johnsiotis8870 3 роки тому +2

    I am scenario 3,but I don’t charge 100% every day. My daily trip is about 120miles around trip. Model 3 LR. I usually have about 278@90%. When I get home I am down to about 150@50%. Sometimes I do that 6 days a week and let it sleep on Saturday afternoon when I get home and charge it on Sunday night to ready on Monday morning.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      Sounds like this is pretty good for your battery! I would recommend considering charging to less than 90% if you're arriving home consistently with 50%. If you're only using 40% of your battery daily (90% -> 50%), you might consider charging to 70%, as you'll keep it closer to half full throughout the day, ending with 30%. And of course charge it up extra the night before if you have to go shopping or need extra range.

  • @rgmia612
    @rgmia612 Рік тому

    Interesting. I do not drive that much but thought 80% daily was the norm. I stand corrected.

  • @Jerry-Mesa
    @Jerry-Mesa 3 роки тому +7

    Thanks, makes sense obviously. I know keeping it charged to 100% and not driving stresses the battery but is charging then driving immediately for a trip after it charges to 100% less stressful? In other words is it the charging level or the duration of being fully charged?

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +3

      Yes! If you’re putting it up to 100%, try not to leave it there long. You can plan ahead and finish charging your car right before leaving for your trip.

  • @6661GIL
    @6661GIL 3 роки тому +2

    I do around 70 miles a day each way so it's 140 round trip and also drive 75-80 mph .
    Usually charge my car to 90% every day and by the time I'm back I'm around 20% every day ,I was little worried about Charging so often and so much , your video help me be more at Pease. Thank you

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      You’re very welcome, glad you can feel more at peace! You’re handling your car exactly as it was meant to be handled.

    • @omardunham237
      @omardunham237 3 роки тому

      @Sr Cobranza What car are you driving, I have a similar commute (90 miles one way).

    • @6661GIL
      @6661GIL 3 роки тому

      @@omardunham237 I just got the 2021 model Y long range awd

    • @omardunham237
      @omardunham237 3 роки тому

      @@BrandonDriver I have a long commute (90 miles one way), but will be able to charge at home and work. I will have free Lv 2 charging at work, and plan to install a Lv 2 charger at home (40A/240V). What would your recommendation for charging be?

    • @omardunham237
      @omardunham237 3 роки тому +1

      @@6661GIL Nice, I'm on the verge of placing my order, but I keep flip flopping between the Model Y or the Model 3. I like the extra room of the Y, but the extra range of the 3 is attractive (especially with my commute)

  • @Angeliavee
    @Angeliavee 2 роки тому +1

    My current commute puts me somewhere in the middle. Sometimes I drive 100+ per day, sometimes it’s closer to 30-50. For the longer drives, I will charge to 90% and the shorter drive days will be 80% I don’t have the ability to charge at home, so on my days off, I let it get to 30% depending on if a work day will follow.
    To give you an idea:
    Delivery day- 3/12/22 4miles on odometer
    Currently- 1569mi as of 4/2/22

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому

      It sounds like you're managing your battery well. Well done!

  • @samenation4562
    @samenation4562 2 роки тому +2

    I have a Y Prem, I charge to 90% every 3-4 days. Might start to charge to 80% and see if that makes difference.

  • @joepuente666
    @joepuente666 2 роки тому

    If the car isn't driven that often should we still charge it every day? I'm getting a model 3 long range. I probably commute to work about 30min to and from totaling the 30min. Mon-fri maybe every once in a while a short trip.
    Thanks for the videos been watching a lot of them before I go pick up my vehicle.

  • @Kh2456
    @Kh2456 2 роки тому +2

    Taking delivery of a M3P next month and have been doing my research. I’m more of #2, 35 mile trip to work but I can charge for free at work so I don’t have to worry about the commute back. According to the tests I’ve seen M3P starts to lose acceleration even though it’s minimal at 50% or so. Trying to figure out what’s the perfect ratio so I preserve my battery for 10+ years and still get full advantage of the performance.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому +1

      You may even keep the car around 80% for the first few months while you’re enjoying it, then lower it once you’ve started adjusting to the performance. It’ll still kick hard even below 50% charge.

    • @Kh2456
      @Kh2456 2 роки тому

      @@BrandonDriver ok thank you that sounds like a good plan.

  • @ronspollino5283
    @ronspollino5283 2 роки тому +2

    Rocket Man -Great information Brandon- Question: When you leave your Tesla in a airport parking garage for 3 to 5 days what is the best practice to preserve your battery range .

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому +2

      Hi Ron!
      Phantom drain can be as much as 10% per day if you leave Sentry Mode on and have people walking back and forth in front of the car all day, waking it up to record. If you turn everything off including sentry mode, it’ll drain much less, around 1-2% per day. If this is the route you take, I’d keep it under 80% and above 20% while you’re gone.

    • @maxx9384
      @maxx9384 2 роки тому

      I recently was out of the country for 2 months and I left it at 70%. By the time I got back, it only lost 2%! Mind you, the car was at home where I leave sentry mode off. With sentry mode on, it probably would have drained the battery to 0..

  • @kiwwi63
    @kiwwi63 2 роки тому +3

    one factor you forgot is ownership time of car keeping the car to 8 years charge to 100% if you want to keep the car longer then charge below ,current durability of cells is 8years till major degradation occurs.

    • @lukasscheurer9078
      @lukasscheurer9078 2 роки тому

      Except that a prudent buyer will test the battery degradation and the value you will get for the car will be based on that. Tesla will only replace it if it catastrophically fails within 8 years I.e. more than 30% degradation

  • @raymondwong2521
    @raymondwong2521 2 роки тому +5

    My Model X P100D with 74,000 miles runs like the first day I got it. 80% of charging all the time with 216-219 miles and since day one, it has reduced some mileage per 80% charge. In comparison, when the car was new and first few 80% of charging gave me 223-225 miles. My car is officially rated at 289 miles per full charge by Tesla. So, 219 miles / 80% = 274 miles. Compared to when I first got my car, 225 miles / 80% = 281 miles (8 miles shy of Tesla's rated 289 miles). So, there was 8 miles of buffer. My battery degradation has only been 281 miles - 274 miles = 7 miles over 74,000 miles of life, or about 2.4% degradation since 7 miles / 289 miles is about 2.4%. Why care so much so long as we are not pushing it too much. Enjoy the ride and enjoy life. Don't over worry about battery degradation. More important is charging speed. If you always fast charge it by warming up the battery, your battery may actually has much shorter life compared to one that is always slow charged. Again, who knows? Tesla is still learning about its batteries, they are still as much as we do trying to see how long their batteries can last since we are all new to the longevity of batteries.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  Рік тому

      Agreed, enjoy the car, don’t stress too much over degradation!

    • @2024-l9n
      @2024-l9n Рік тому +1

      Do you charge to over 90% in a long trip?
      I heard it wont damage battery since it is at high level for only a short time

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  Рік тому

      @@2024-l9n yep! I only charge to 100% if I’m about to go for a Roadtrip.

  • @jeannelee5314
    @jeannelee5314 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you. I live in a condo with 3rd party charging stations (not superchargers). I have been charging to 86-90% and as soon as level is reach, unplug my car and move to my parking spot. I note my battery drains about 8-10% in a 24 hour period when I did not drive at all. Any ideas? Seems a bit excessive. Sentry mode and climate are turned off. The information on battery health is very helpful.

    • @jt-rex6972
      @jt-rex6972 2 роки тому +1

      Losing 8-10% in a 24 hr period without using Sentry or climate does seem excessive. I lose probably 1-2% per 24 hours. Also, something else might be keeping your car "awake" and not letting it sleep. You should contact your service center and they can run a diagnostic on your battery.

  • @cliffhaston577
    @cliffhaston577 Місяць тому

    Makes sense. But what is the actual stress mechanism. This video has changed my habits from 20-80 to 30-70 or even 40-60 based on the limited miles I will be driving.

  • @soniaferrufino5712
    @soniaferrufino5712 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you handsome, you saved my day.

  • @ChannelBri
    @ChannelBri Рік тому

    Best Amps to charge 1 battery health, 2 electric efficiency. Bonus question. Leave it plugged in if not using or unplugged??

  • @jasonbarney1103
    @jasonbarney1103 2 роки тому +1

    MYP - I don’t drive much each day. Around 30-40 miles. I charge to 65% and it is plenty for what I need. Realistically I could go down to 55-60% and still be ok. I’ve only had the car for 3 weeks so still getting used to everything. I went on a 2.5 hour road trip last week and only charged to 85% and had ~40% left when I arrived.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому

      Sounds like you’re going to have a very happy battery!

  • @montybhuller1377
    @montybhuller1377 Рік тому

    Hi Brandon so as a new first time Tesla. Buyer how much do I charge it . I thought 90% is good and other 10% is for regen braking I’m Gettig my delivery after thanks giving please suggest

  • @user-ff4mn5if6f
    @user-ff4mn5if6f 5 місяців тому

    I'm definitely in the first scenario

  • @markwkaplan4923
    @markwkaplan4923 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Brandon. Thanks for a very informative video. I’m still waiting for my new Model 3 to be delivered but I am learning so much from great UA-cam videos, like yours.
    The question I have is what is best practice for leaving the Tesla parked at home and not being used for an extended period of time (i.e. going away on vacation)? Is it ok to leave it plugged in while away and charged up to 50-60%.
    By the way to answer your question in the video, I will probably fall into the category of low-moderate driving so charging to say 70-80% would work best for me. It just depends on the day and whether I’m working at home or commuting to the office which is about 60 miles round trip.
    Thanks again.
    Mark

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому +3

      Great question! Shoot me an email if you’d like my free delivery checklist, hello@electricautosquad.com.
      Leaving it at 50% is perfect for long periods of inactivity.

    • @markwkaplan4923
      @markwkaplan4923 2 роки тому

      @@BrandonDriver Thanks so much!

    • @hamptonchivasa
      @hamptonchivasa 2 роки тому +1

      @@BrandonDriver The battery loses about 1% a day from what is known as phantom drain. The car being plugged in does not mean it is charging. It will Strat charging when it requires. Tesla recommends leaving it plugged in every night

  • @trinitybricks9522
    @trinitybricks9522 6 місяців тому +1

    If you use it as a uber/taxi then charge it to 90% everyday/everytime, that should be fine I think.

  • @gerthddyn
    @gerthddyn 2 роки тому +3

    All of these scenarios assume you have Level 2 charging available. If you are currently trickle charging, going from any real depth of charge to even 60% will take the entire night and getting up to 80 or 90% will take a couple of days. You mentioned that leaving it at a higher state of charge is bad, but you didn't mention that doing so is far worse if your car is kept hot. Conversely, if you are driving and storing the car in a colder climate closer to 0 degrees C, need more percentage of your battery just to keep the batteries warm enough to get a decent energy output during a drive, so it also makes sense that you may need to charge and leave it at a significantly higher state of charge and that is fine because the average degradation will be WAY less. Good advice overall for the uninformed. It would be nice if Tesla's reported their individual cell/pack voltage for the more well informed about battery chemistries and those that test them for "other applications" (like spacecraft). Also this doesn't apply at all to the Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. Those chemistries have completely different reactions.

  • @georger1988
    @georger1988 Рік тому

    The new Model 3 with LCP batteries says to charge to 100% and go down to 50%. What are you recommendations for it?

  • @toddr.lockwood843
    @toddr.lockwood843 3 роки тому +14

    Charging a Model 3 or Model Y to 70% or less for months on end can lead to cells getting out of sync. That is, some cells will contain more energy than others when charging stops. This is not particularly damaging, but it can lead to an inaccurate battery range indication on the touchscreen. Occasionally charging to 90 percent will level up the cells again. (Kim Java was the first UA-camr to report this several years ago. She consulted with Tesla engineering on it.)

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +5

      Doing a reset every few months will help this for sure! Will do more research.

    • @JoshuaParks
      @JoshuaParks Рік тому

      I thought the reset happens by leaving the car with nothing running at/around 20%. I would imagine that the Tesla BMSs are pretty sophisticated and do a pretty good job of distributing the incoming energy throughout the cells - but there’s not arguing with scientific testing. I’ll be interested to learn more about energy distribution in the current and 4680 batteries

  • @rkgsd
    @rkgsd Рік тому

    If you must use the Tesla Supercharging network because you don't have home charging, it might be a good idea to find the 72 kw stations instead of the newer 250 kw. My theory is 250 kw on a constant basis has more of a negative impact on battery health.

  • @alexius23
    @alexius23 3 роки тому +4

    Getting Model 3 Long Range comes the Spring. I live in a “salt the roads” State. I want to spare the new Tesla from winter driving.....I see myself being a “1” once I make my Tesla purchase. I do road trips a few times a year...only then will I do 100%.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +2

      An early contractions to you Alexius! I’m a 1 too right now, but I was a 2 for a long time. Seasons and driving needs can change often. It’ll be healthy for your car during its early phase of life.

  • @ONTODABALL
    @ONTODABALL Рік тому

    Is this video still accurate being 2 years old, with the progress in tech? Maybe a new video is needed if not? Great video anyhow, thanks

  • @altor562
    @altor562 2 роки тому +2

    Any insight on the amperage needed to use for home charging to keep the battery in a healthy state?

  • @thatmankz_TTok
    @thatmankz_TTok 2 роки тому +1

    this is also a Philosophy thought. The Golden line by I think Aristotle. the best outcome is between two extremes.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому +1

      I like this perspective, more wisdom than meets the eye

  • @danielshively9778
    @danielshively9778 Рік тому

    In our fast paced life sometimes we don't have the extra time to charge the car.... So I charge mine at the supercharger when I have time....

  • @KirinRise
    @KirinRise Рік тому

    if you go on vacation for a week... is it bad to not charge your battery during that time.

  • @DL6778
    @DL6778 3 роки тому +1

    This was good info I do doordash. Your thoughts on buying a Tesla for that.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      You'll have no worries about frequent oil changes with a Tesla, and substantially cheaper fuel costs!

  • @isodynamicenterprise
    @isodynamicenterprise 3 роки тому +3

    We've already talked but with me I would fall in 2.5. I drive for Uber eats and that's between 130 to 200 miles a day. So I will put that Tesla through it's paces and being that I live in a cold climate during the winter months I will definitely charge the car up to 80-90% everyday.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely. And Teslas get better range in city driving, all thanks to regenerative braking. You should have plenty to work with!

    • @isodynamicenterprise
      @isodynamicenterprise 3 роки тому +1

      @@BrandonDriver Yeap. Once I get mine, my1st project is to master one pedal driving.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому

      @@isodynamicenterprise One-pedal driving is probably the weirdest part of learning a Tesla, and in my opinion the coolest. I think you'll love it, and I think you'll pick it up in no time. You should record yourself and the learning process!

  • @unreconstructed9172
    @unreconstructed9172 2 роки тому

    I have a model 3 long-range on order. I'll be driving at minimum 130 miles a day...will I be a 100% charger everyday?

  • @conradce
    @conradce 2 роки тому +4

    I’ve been using 70% for those days that I know I don’t need much range. I picked it because it’s halfway between 50% (the lowest allowable charge limit) and 90% (the highest recommended charge limit for daily use).
    As another commenter asked, is there any empirical or authoritative source for the claim that 50% is the least stressful charge level? (Though it does make some intuitive sense, given that it’s mid-way between 20% and 80%, which many view as the limits for daily use.)

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  2 роки тому +2

      Nothing empirical yet, the tech is still very new. But lots of science that suggests that this is indeed correct, and I would expect something in the next year or two to be published about it.

  • @johnmoore1495
    @johnmoore1495 3 роки тому +9

    I don’t know if this is an option in Tesla settings (I don’t own one) but scheduling the charging would help a lot in the long run. Say you’re someone who uses 30% of their battery daily and tops up their car to 80% daily. Don’t plug in your car and start charging the moment you get home. Let your car sit at 50% and schedule your car to charge the remaining 30% right before you wake up. This minimizes the amount of time your battery stays in a stressful state, this would be especially useful for those who charge to 90-100%.
    Apple now does this for people who plug in their phones overnight. The phone will charge to 80% and then wait until it’s coming close to when you wake up to charge the remaining 20%.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      This does exist! You can set a time when the car should be prepped to go. It'll also warm up or cool down to how you like it.

    • @dangr3957
      @dangr3957 3 роки тому

      You can set up the level of charge. If I don’t use the car much I leave it on 50 and keep it plugged in so it’s tops up the phantom leak.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому +1

      @@dangr3957 This is the best strategy, I set it to 60% but do the same!

  • @matsteel2292
    @matsteel2292 6 місяців тому

    Hey from Australia I just got my brand new M3 AWD this week I see so many vids on here they say a happy Tesla is a plugged in one ? That's where Im confused when it's at say 50 or 60 % in your garage should it be plugged in or not ? or can you leave it plugged in and not charge ? Or lower the charge limìt to say 60 % and keave it plugged in ? Hope that makes sense? Cheers Mat.

  • @mohammedbouamri5798
    @mohammedbouamri5798 2 роки тому

    Hello I use my tesla as a taxi and drive a lot 400km a day minimum. What percentage max and minimum can i keep like everyday i have a long range tesla with 576 km autonomie

  • @ngyheng
    @ngyheng 2 місяці тому

    Is it necessary to charge it to 100 percent once a week as recommended by Tesla for model 3

  • @Jojo-hr8ps
    @Jojo-hr8ps Рік тому

    Does charging At level 1 all the time, good or worse than level 2?

  • @motivationinc6415
    @motivationinc6415 2 роки тому

    My biggest question is when you charge for full why is it takes so long time Why car slows down charging Kwt’s?

  • @raularroyo7740
    @raularroyo7740 3 роки тому +1

    I just recently purchased a Model Y and still waiting for delivery. But scenario one is my situation.

    • @BrandonDriver
      @BrandonDriver  3 роки тому

      Congratulations on your order! When do you take delivery?

  • @algins2045
    @algins2045 6 місяців тому

    why does the charging STOP if fob is out and away from vehicle, thanks,tesla s 2020

  • @rsxbulma
    @rsxbulma Місяць тому

    I carpool with coworkers 50 miles one way so 100 miles round trip. My job offers charging at level 2 should I charge my M3LR when I arrive at work or should I charge a couple hours before leaving?

  • @jeffreyontheway
    @jeffreyontheway 6 місяців тому

    Brandon Driver, isn’t there a difference between the lithium battery and the other kind? Are these statements about rest and stress different depending on the type of battery?