Personally think Spencer's vocal lines fit better with this song, here I just hear vocals over riffs whereas the new vocal lines really intertwine with the song.
Maybe because it was 10 years ago. Spencer is a better composer of vocal lines for me, but baretto isn't far behind given how great the songs by monuments are. I guess if asked to redo it now, he would do better.
Spencer really did amazing on this song. I know a lot of people prefer this version's vocals, but I just feel like in the new version Spencer completely perfected the atmosphere. His vocals match perfectly with the chord changes and the different moods in the song. This one is fantastic as well, but god damn Spencer has a good ear!
Ultimately Spencer, Misha, and Mark had around 10 years to remaster this, as opposed to when they got Chris Baretto to record vocals for this back in 2010
People can say what they want- this will always be my favourite version of the song. I love Spencer and his version is awesome, but this one has more sentimental value to me, and ive always thought it gave a beautifully tragic vibe to the song, which I really like. As far as I'm concerned, _this_ is the song and everything else is technically a cover of this version. I know that's not actually the case, but in my mind it is. 🤘
Danyu91 periphery’s first album had lyrics that made no sense too, it was all just pseudo-esoteric BS, I’m pretty sure that Casey Sabol was pumping out weird lyrics for this and the first periphery album, he was into some weird cult shit back then.
Both of them are great vocalists but this song brings back memories from my childhood and it became part of my life. Spencers version made it too melodic while this for me as i like it is more expressive imo.
Same for me completely. This song alone lightened up my childhood from my depression back at that time, while I was getting the shit kicked out of me everyday. I was blessed to discover Periphery at that time. I feel like this version gives parts of the song time to breathe whereas Spencer's vox - albeit very well done - do not. But I'm still happy that Spencer ended up being the perfect fit for Periphery in the end. I just wish I was at the shows where Chris shows up with surprise guest vox. It would have done my childhood a great honor even more than seeing Periphery already does.
I still like this version better. Gives me so much nostalgia. The vocals seem way more passionate and (like you said) expressive in this version. The Spencer version just seems like a bunch of words smacked over a track. Chris' vocals actually feel like they fit the song and tell an epic story where Spencer's version just keep going and going with no coherent theme or direction or purpose.
id normally disagree with this but this song is so much more expressive with singing the screaming sounds so out of place and is just there for the sake of it sounding "heavier" when this song isn't meant to be heavy its beyond melodic and beautiful
@@aFutureSelf I don't think you even listened to Spencer's version like wtf is this bs you're talking about. How about you actually go look at the lyrics lmao
Both versions actually sound good to me. I prefer Spencer's clean vocals but prefer Chris's growls. It would've been more interesting if Spencer kept the same lyrics and Chris's version was remastered.
@@abrahamambriz892 no porque es la versión vieja de haunted shores cuando cantaba Barretto, incluso la habían sacado de UA-cam cuando lanzaron la nueva versión!!
Corenthal Spencer’s cleans are obviously better but I gotta say I might prefer these screams over Spencer’s usual screams. Thing is, it seems like Spencer can do lower screams very well but doesn’t use them often. I wish we heard more of them in the studio
Been trying to find this for ages, you're a legend! Does anybody remember the name of a tune that had Spencer on that used to be on youtube, it was pre-Periphery but still kinda "djent", so it definitely was not part of the Endur project. Been scouring the Internet intermittently for a year trying to search fragments of what I think the lyrics might have been but with no luck.
I don't know what to think with these 2 version (this and P4) I feel like some vocals are easier to digest in this version, like .. not sure how to explain that.. it's hard to explain :D but spencer always have a way to choose his melodies that hits another level and of course Spencer gives me chills in the second half of the song ! I wonder how Chris is feeling right now ?
Frankly I think it's just due to the fact that there is a lot less going on with both the vocals and the song in general in this version. I also think the vocals in this version feel kind of separate from the instrumental portion for the most part, whereas Spencer's vocals meld with the instruments and give it a much deeper and complex sound, though that could be argued as just a result of the mixing and mastering. I think this was essentially a demo, and the album version was just instrumental.
Tashiro I know what you mean, think Spencer’s screams and melodies are better but Chris spaces his lyrics better. Spencer’s seem like they were put in for the sake of it in some places so it feels like “filler words”
Days they pass, constructing a path to the stars, bending space and time. (Unending solitude) Travel I will, these light years in search of a savior race, WHO MUST ANSWER OUR DYING CALLLLLLL
Both vocalist used their strengths to take this instrumental to the next level. Chris' strength is his scream and Spencer his singing. They both delivered on this song and made it badass regardless of which you like more
Yeah you guys can argue all you want about which one is better, but I'm telling you right now. If Periphery remakes Immaterial, Spencer is absolutely not touching Elliot on that track. He's just incapable of doing that.
Hmmmm I prefer the P4 version, I just think Spencer has a better voice for this. It's a very 'positive hardcore' style song with its fast beats and major chords. Spencers choice of vocal melody really fits with it better and I think he does a better job of weaving through the instrumentation.
I much prefer the vocals in this version. Spencer has always been a bit too whiny sounding for my tastes. Chris just hits notes. Awesome song either way!
In my opinion spencer’s strength has always been creating vocal melodies that fit over weird modulations, take a song like Ji or Froggin’ Bullfish for example.. he brings cohesion to the craziness of the instrumentals. no offence to Chris (I like him in monuments) but he doesn’t even sound that confident in his own melodies in this song, it sounds like it was slapped together in a few minutes
@@Alan-oc7tg Spencer's cleans are almost stereotypically pop punk. All his enunciations and quirks. I love it, but you commented this on the wrong version.
You can tell these guys had a big influence on Periphery
Yeah man, I wish Periphery would cover this song
Lol I wonder how that happened?
@@rahulbasu659 bro that would be absolutely insane
Thats because mark wrote the song and Chris sang for periphery...
@@IIIFrenchyIII You really missed the joke didn't you?
Screams kinda sound like Randy Blythe from Lamb Of God
Cowboy George sure does
I love him but randy could take him to a clinic on screaming. Pig squeals by randy are unmatched.
@@Sevenstringmachine that goes without saying, obviously.
Singing sounds so 2005 in a good way.
His scream is so Randy Blythe is crazy, I thought it was at first
Rate Chris but Spencer takes this track to another level. Both incredible talents.
Personally think Spencer's vocal lines fit better with this song, here I just hear vocals over riffs whereas the new vocal lines really intertwine with the song.
Maybe I'm being bias here, but I prefer spencers melodies and screams better.
Maybe because it was 10 years ago. Spencer is a better composer of vocal lines for me, but baretto isn't far behind given how great the songs by monuments are. I guess if asked to redo it now, he would do better.
I find Spencer's version too girlish sounding. Chris packs more power in this singing for this type of song.
@@coldfiresamurai6333 to each their own I guess
Spencer's arrangement skills and good taste are top notch
Spencer really did amazing on this song. I know a lot of people prefer this version's vocals, but I just feel like in the new version Spencer completely perfected the atmosphere. His vocals match perfectly with the chord changes and the different moods in the song. This one is fantastic as well, but god damn Spencer has a good ear!
This one is better written. Spencer's is better executed. Spencer just has a better scream tone. But the melodies in this version are unforgettable.
@@shanerion facts. Spencer i feel floods the song an gives it no breathing room with his melodies.
Ultimately Spencer, Misha, and Mark had around 10 years to remaster this, as opposed to when they got Chris Baretto to record vocals for this back in 2010
The best version is instrumental.
@@shanerion nnnnah
Chris and ever forthright forever!
People can say what they want- this will always be my favourite version of the song. I love Spencer and his version is awesome, but this one has more sentimental value to me, and ive always thought it gave a beautifully tragic vibe to the song, which I really like.
As far as I'm concerned, _this_ is the song and everything else is technically a cover of this version. I know that's not actually the case, but in my mind it is. 🤘
Now you got something to die for!!!
WATCH THE HORIZON FADE WITHIN YOUR EYES. WITHIN YOU.
Haunted Shores version's lyrics make no goddamn sense, unlike Periphery's imo
@@Danyu91 Almost all of Chris's lyrics make no sense bro LOL
Danyu91 periphery’s first album had lyrics that made no sense too, it was all just pseudo-esoteric BS, I’m pretty sure that Casey Sabol was pumping out weird lyrics for this and the first periphery album, he was into some weird cult shit back then.
@@DeltaCain13a lot of it was chris on most of them lmao
I love the outro vocals on this. That end on a high note is just so good.
So cool seeing Misha wearing a Dredg shirt. I miss that band.
Now imagine if you will periphery doing this live, but with this guy doing vocals with spencer.
Like Chris doing the screams and spencer doing the singing part.
If they tour with Monuments in the future, it's possible! It would be sick!
@@coreyballenger5600 well, here in Chile they'll tour together, maybe it happens
Or imagine Chris replacing Spencer in general..
pisse3000 Chris was in Periphery you know that right? He was fired because of “personal differences” and Sponce is vocalist now.
Days they pass
Constructing a path to the stars
Bending space and time
YEA FAM CHRIST BURRITO FOREVER
Well fuck. Now I'm gonna have two versions of this song in my playlist.
Both of them are great vocalists but this song brings back memories from my childhood and it became part of my life. Spencers version made it too melodic while this for me as i like it is more expressive imo.
Same for me completely. This song alone lightened up my childhood from my depression back at that time, while I was getting the shit kicked out of me everyday. I was blessed to discover Periphery at that time.
I feel like this version gives parts of the song time to breathe whereas Spencer's vox - albeit very well done - do not. But I'm still happy that Spencer ended up being the perfect fit for Periphery in the end. I just wish I was at the shows where Chris shows up with surprise guest vox. It would have done my childhood a great honor even more than seeing Periphery already does.
I still like this version better. Gives me so much nostalgia. The vocals seem way more passionate and (like you said) expressive in this version. The Spencer version just seems like a bunch of words smacked over a track. Chris' vocals actually feel like they fit the song and tell an epic story where Spencer's version just keep going and going with no coherent theme or direction or purpose.
id normally disagree with this but this song is so much more expressive with singing the screaming sounds so out of place and is just there for the sake of it sounding "heavier" when this song isn't meant to be heavy its beyond melodic and beautiful
@@aFutureSelf I don't think you even listened to Spencer's version like wtf is this bs you're talking about. How about you actually go look at the lyrics lmao
@@lazarushatchette3978 relax bro you're defending Spencer like he's your boyfriend or something. I like this version better. Conversation over.
This mix sounds like the pre Periphery I album.
Both versions actually sound good to me. I prefer Spencer's clean vocals but prefer Chris's growls. It would've been more interesting if Spencer kept the same lyrics and Chris's version was remastered.
Can't wait for the new version with Spencer in the vocals
No man, it just feels wrong, the outro of Chris is just haunting.
@@CykGameplays the new version is fucking sick wym
@@CykGameplays listen to it again bruh
Spencer BLESSED this song it's not even close!
COME OOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!
Amo esta versión!!
No está en Spotify... 🥺
@@abrahamambriz892 no porque es la versión vieja de haunted shores cuando cantaba Barretto, incluso la habían sacado de UA-cam cuando lanzaron la nueva versión!!
@@parametrosbandbyelias9194 Por qué la quitaron?
@@abrahamambriz892 para lanzar la nueva me imagino
Like spencer, but always loved this version more.
idk how anyone finds this version better no disrespect to chris
P4?
they re-recorded this song with spencer sotelo
Who else came here, after the Preview Video for Hail Stan?
of course
Niels Wassermann Gotta say I kinda like the vocalist on this one hes like a mix of Spencer and Randy Blythe
Corenthal Spencer’s cleans are obviously better but I gotta say I might prefer these screams over Spencer’s usual screams. Thing is, it seems like Spencer can do lower screams very well but doesn’t use them often. I wish we heard more of them in the studio
MuroPecca Oh yeah hands down Spencer is an amazing clean vocalist and I do wish he would use more lows
Chris Baretto is fucking incredible. But he went exactly where he was meant to be with Monuments
P4
I wish Spencer would’ve kept these lyrics. I would’ve loved to compare the two.
Eddie Vazquez the whole band rewrote the whole song.
I like seeing the difference approach to vocal Melody they took. And I way prefer Spencer's
Spencer wrote his version before this one existed. They just finally decided to use it for P4.
Chris is fire, but for Periphery... Spencer is the one and only imo.
Been trying to find this for ages, you're a legend!
Does anybody remember the name of a tune that had Spencer on that used to be on youtube, it was pre-Periphery but still kinda "djent", so it definitely was not part of the Endur project. Been scouring the Internet intermittently for a year trying to search fragments of what I think the lyrics might have been but with no luck.
He was a member of Eyes of Oedipus before Periphery.
ua-cam.com/video/BRFMr6vGJ6w/v-deo.html
@@EzZzett You fucking legend! I recognise this from literally 1 second!
I haven't heard this song in like 7 years
@@fedmcglowie7240 what's the song
@@sinned_squid Eyes of Oedipus - Cloud
Sorry for the very late response
I don't know what to think with these 2 version (this and P4)
I feel like some vocals are easier to digest in this version, like .. not sure how to explain that.. it's hard to explain :D
but spencer always have a way to choose his melodies that hits another level and of course Spencer gives me chills in the second half of the song !
I wonder how Chris is feeling right now ?
Frankly I think it's just due to the fact that there is a lot less going on with both the vocals and the song in general in this version. I also think the vocals in this version feel kind of separate from the instrumental portion for the most part, whereas Spencer's vocals meld with the instruments and give it a much deeper and complex sound, though that could be argued as just a result of the mixing and mastering. I think this was essentially a demo, and the album version was just instrumental.
Tashiro I know what you mean, think Spencer’s screams and melodies are better but Chris spaces his lyrics better. Spencer’s seem like they were put in for the sake of it in some places so it feels like “filler words”
@@adamcogan211funny, I feel the exact reverse opinion
Spens☝
Days they pass, constructing a path to the stars, bending space and time.
(Unending solitude)
Travel I will, these light years in search of a savior race, WHO MUST ANSWER OUR DYING CALLLLLLL
I prefer this mix even if it's lower quality tbh, the Periphery mix causes a lot of the post-hardcorey chord voicings to be inaudible.
Is it still possible to purchase this version?
I think they still have their bandcamp up, im not 100 percent sure tho lol
Both vocalist used their strengths to take this instrumental to the next level. Chris' strength is his scream and Spencer his singing. They both delivered on this song and made it badass regardless of which you like more
When is this originally from?
Real story one time I said this version is better than the Plll version and Misha roasted me lmao. But still I like this version better
Yeah you guys can argue all you want about which one is better, but I'm telling you right now. If Periphery remakes Immaterial, Spencer is absolutely not touching Elliot on that track. He's just incapable of doing that.
This far better in every way than the new version........
You have to let go of who you are to be what you will become.............
in P4.
Lovin this song since 2009. Lots of memories hearing this over and over coz it became part of my life. Way better than the new version imo.
Ironically this sound ms more like periphery than they do now lol
Chris’s singing , screaming, n lyrics are way better !!!
Hmmmm I prefer the P4 version, I just think Spencer has a better voice for this. It's a very 'positive hardcore' style song with its fast beats and major chords. Spencers choice of vocal melody really fits with it better and I think he does a better job of weaving through the instrumentation.
No offense to Spencer but this is an overwhelming win on vocals
Chris so talented i dont know why he can stay at 1 band,even he can play sax,guitar and other instrument
This version is way better
@Lee McDabney Whats wrong with thinking this is the better version? Its his opinion.
Baretto fits the riff better. Spencers melodies contrast too much for me personally.@Lee McDabney
@Lee McDabney For me both versions are good. I prefer Spencer's clean vocals but I prefer Chris's growls.
baretto fits this song better stylistically, even though spencers performance was better
Chris is ok. Spencer elevated this track though.
I much prefer the vocals in this version. Spencer has always been a bit too whiny sounding for my tastes. Chris just hits notes. Awesome song either way!
Spencer makes it sound yuge
The new version sounds too vanilla imo
This is like an espresso
P4 version is like a capuccino vainilla 🤣
This version is superior. Guitar tone is clearer, and Chris' melodies and lyrics soar together with the rest. And that note at the end... Goosebumps.
Dude. It's just Periphery except its not.
spencers version is just so much more groovy. like this just sounds like chris freestyled over it and i kinda can’t stand it
This verson is better. Chris has always been better than spencer in the melody department. The p4 version is kinda overcrowded vocally.
@Ian Armstrong yah
Spencer gave it so much more depth
@@MusaTariq25 depth? More like needless dynamics imo. Which forces melodies that don't fit nor sound good.
Too much going on for no reason.
In my opinion spencer’s strength has always been creating vocal melodies that fit over weird modulations, take a song like Ji or Froggin’ Bullfish for example..
he brings cohesion to the craziness of the instrumentals. no offence to Chris (I like him in monuments) but he doesn’t even sound that confident in his own melodies in this song, it sounds like it was slapped together in a few minutes
Monuments new album was pretty disappointing imo
spencer do better my opinion
Yeah P4 version way better these vocals sounds like some Lamb of god bullshit
I'm sorry but his cleans are horrible
Sounds like generic pop punk.
Are you deaf?
@@Alan-oc7tg Spencer's cleans are almost stereotypically pop punk. All his enunciations and quirks. I love it, but you commented this on the wrong version.
@@BenjaminKuruga No, I didn't. The cleans on this sound like generic pop punk. I said what I meant where I meant it.
@@Alan-oc7tg I wish I could find some pop punk that sounded like Chris' cleans. Sadly, all we have is Spencer.
Spencer ruined this song.