@@cyber2526 I think, in theory, you could sinker EDM it. In theory, no idea if it even possible in reality. I certainly suspect it isn't something that anyone would choose to use as a manufacturing technique except in weird corner cases like a down factory and a 3 month lead time.
Awesome finish! on the outside... now... please show how you machine out the housing with that tangential curve... 🤓 I'll pop some popcorn for that video
Actually, what I'm wondering is how valuable all the work on the outside beyond the rouging pass is? Does it actual make the part better at it's job? It's a rocket so weight matters and it's most likely a highly stressed part so sharp inside corners are a no-no, but it would be interesting to see how much the client could have saved by setting the outside tolerance as -0.0/+0.125 or something similarly grotesque.
@@benjaminshropshire2900 the smoother the surface finish, the more rigid the part will be since cracks cannot start so easily. In technical terms this is called notching effect
@@johgude5045 The stress concentrations that cause fatigue issues are only for notches. If you do a surface with a bunch of flats with convex edges between them that shouldn't be an issue. You could even do a surface with a large diameter ball end mill with large step overs and it shouldn't be a hard fatigue issue to work with.
It appears these are connections to independent systems in close approximation in this part. Possibly for stability or simply tight quarters requiring these specific connections.
The inside is just left hollow from the casting. Or not sure maybe this is 3D printed. either way I think the part is already hollow, just doesn't have machined surfaces. Which frankly is stupid as, if anything it's the only surface that should be as smooth as possible, for improved air flow. The outside is just for aesthetics and is a waste of time.
This is the exact reason why all pump volutes are sand cast lol. This is an insane amount of work! This is a tiny volute also… I rebuilt a submersible waste water storm pump that had a volute on it about 3 feet in diameter lol. Imagine machining one that big…
Nice to see the 'discobal' on your desk, it automaticly lets me smile and remember, The disco extravaganza video 😂😂🎉Grtzz from the Netherlands Johny geerts
Ok, now my question is how do you drill open the side holes/ports of this part? It's quite deep and its spiral. 5 Axis only can get you so far in terms of clearence
I watched the roughing of this part. cool to see the finish. I'm in Quality (Dimensional Inspector). Depending on the tolerances, this would be a fun part to scan. I'm using Verisurf, and it runs off mastercam. So this is cool. Thanks!
I'm watching the video for a second time , and wondering how the heck you milled the inside bore of the snail ?! I'm breacking my head over it , si plz help 😂 lol.. Grtz from the netherlands Johny geerts
Looks like a lost wax casting job to me. We have been casting pumps like this for probably over 200 years and just cleaning up 3 faces and tapping some holes. Crazy work from a machining standpoint but pretty stupid in terms of cost per unit.
Jus sayin. Remember the story about NASA spending millions to develop a pen that would work in zero gravity. The Russians used a pencil and until recently their rockets crude and simple did all the heavy lifting.
How much would a part like this run? In my work I've designed small parts that came out to over $500, I don't even want to imagine the cost of this beast.
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Nice work. But now i'm curious on how you will machine the duct of this pump ?
a long curved end mill. duh...
dremel tool
@@J.DiPietro That's what I thought too. 👍
normally it would be a casting, this is just a demo
@@cyber2526 I think, in theory, you could sinker EDM it. In theory, no idea if it even possible in reality. I certainly suspect it isn't something that anyone would choose to use as a manufacturing technique except in weird corner cases like a down factory and a 3 month lead time.
I love watching your videos. I've been retired for 2 years now and I still like to see all the new maching and all the new stuff.
The sophistication and capabilities of these machines and associated controls are remarkable. Really enjoyed the video and the narrative. Thank you!
Awesome finish! on the outside... now... please show how you machine out the housing with that tangential curve... 🤓
I'll pop some popcorn for that video
Actually, what I'm wondering is how valuable all the work on the outside beyond the rouging pass is? Does it actual make the part better at it's job? It's a rocket so weight matters and it's most likely a highly stressed part so sharp inside corners are a no-no, but it would be interesting to see how much the client could have saved by setting the outside tolerance as -0.0/+0.125 or something similarly grotesque.
@@benjaminshropshire2900 the smoother the surface finish, the more rigid the part will be since cracks cannot start so easily. In technical terms this is called notching effect
@@benjaminshropshire2900 sure on the inside, tolerances are more critical
@@johgude5045 The stress concentrations that cause fatigue issues are only for notches. If you do a surface with a bunch of flats with convex edges between them that shouldn't be an issue. You could even do a surface with a large diameter ball end mill with large step overs and it shouldn't be a hard fatigue issue to work with.
Sick. I now wonder the snake loop have a big hole??
Seeing the small flange there doesn't have a hollow hole.
Is this part of the centrifugal pump?
How does this work if it doesn't have a hole in that spiral?
Was wondering this same thing
It appears these are connections to independent systems in close approximation in this part. Possibly for stability or simply tight quarters requiring these specific connections.
I think it's mostly a demonstration part, not a functional one.
I think, the part isn't finished yet.
The inside is just left hollow from the casting. Or not sure maybe this is 3D printed. either way I think the part is already hollow, just doesn't have machined surfaces. Which frankly is stupid as, if anything it's the only surface that should be as smooth as possible, for improved air flow. The outside is just for aesthetics and is a waste of time.
Love the HELLER AND SIEMENS CONTROL
This is the exact reason why all pump volutes are sand cast lol. This is an insane amount of work! This is a tiny volute also…
I rebuilt a submersible waste water storm pump that had a volute on it about 3 feet in diameter lol. Imagine machining one that big…
Nice to see the 'discobal' on your desk, it automaticly lets me smile and remember,
The disco extravaganza video 😂😂🎉Grtzz from the Netherlands Johny geerts
Finishing art of the job is mind blowing🤯
Ok, now my question is how do you drill open the side holes/ports of this part? It's quite deep and its spiral.
5 Axis only can get you so far in terms of clearence
Incredible work Barry, what a process this has been!
Nice work Barry! Cool to see it go from raw stock to a nice finish!👏
I watched the roughing of this part. cool to see the finish. I'm in Quality (Dimensional Inspector). Depending on the tolerances, this would be a fun part to scan. I'm using Verisurf, and it runs off mastercam. So this is cool. Thanks!
Ok how you drill hole in this Twisted pipe
Nice work Barry
Awesome work Barry!
Love these kinds of videos guys! Nice work 💪
It's been fun following the progress of this project. Awesome job, Barry! I most enjoy watching the Heller in operation. 🙂
amazing work!
What about internal profiling of the volute?? Really interesting to see how you can reach there even on 5axis..
Full runtime of the hole part?
just wondering, how much would a part like this cost?
my guess is probably in the 10s of thousands but idk
Ya I’d guess north of 10k$
$21,564.32
Infinite if you machine the inside of the housing, if it’s just the outside, and it’s a 1 off part, I’d say 20-30k
Man, that sheet metal on that Heller looks like it's taken a beating.
Mate Thats just too good.
i want to see the flange hole finished
I'm watching the video for a second time , and wondering how the heck you milled the inside bore of the snail ?!
I'm breacking my head over it , si plz help 😂 lol..
Grtz from the netherlands Johny geerts
This is the part on which you wouldn't want a "unwanted" toolpath to happen. I would babysit the part all the way through from start to finish
Boom!
When are you going to work on the internal features?
Will there be a video porting it?
magic
Think about HyperMill this absolut perfectly for 5 axis and CAD
It's really beautiful... but.. what's the point to make perfect surface on this part)?
Wow 😮😮
what about the volute???
Bad ass bro!
Do the bore!🤑
What was the total runtime on this manifold?
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Looks like a lost wax casting job to me.
We have been casting pumps like this for probably over 200 years and just cleaning up 3 faces and tapping some holes.
Crazy work from a machining standpoint but pretty stupid in terms of cost per unit.
roasted
Jus sayin.
Remember the story about NASA spending millions to develop a pen that would work in zero gravity.
The Russians used a pencil and until recently their rockets crude and simple did all the heavy lifting.
Am I the only one who thought this part was way bigger than it actually is because of the other videos?
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How much would a part like this run? In my work I've designed small parts that came out to over $500, I don't even want to imagine the cost of this beast.
Work NC CAM is good too and cheap
will this full program be up for sale? for learning experience.
Pretty sure something similar is on fusion 360 for free
somebody tell donny his tornos multiswiss waiting in the back
At that point why not cast it instead? Doesn’t seem to be time effective
Kann das fertig produzierte Pumpengehäuse gezeigt werden. Die Einlassbohrung ist noch nicht eingebracht!
i see someone took a chunk out of one of the fins whoops, who was it and how
18 years experience and I’m interested
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This guy talks like Billy Mays
This tech is too old...in years ...40 behind! You discovered in 2024.
Looks like gas won’t flow through that design.
outside of part is for looks only, waste of time machining it
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