There's a lot of planning that goes into programming and running parts like these. Having free access to all this hard earned info is an invaluable resource for programmers and machinists alike. Great video Tyson!
Mad scientist at work... Love all of your tutorials. It must be a really cool feeling knowing your parts are responsible for getting these behemoth engineering marvels into space. Always appreciate what you guys do. Much love and gratitude.
not to diminish his work, but this specific part will not go to space. Most if not all aerospace parts are in a locked process for chain of custody purposes. Because he ran without coolant, this part would automatically be disqualified. Also, aerospace blisks are usually made from Inconel, Waspaloy, or Titanium, not stainless steel.
Love watching and learning new tricks. Now I have a trick for you that will change things for you and the industry only if the cadcam industry implement a different method for the rough boring cycle that industry uses. Rather than the norm that I see with industry using longitudinal internal (Rough boring) cutting along the Z axis only, cutting should be done along a 45 degree angle moving in both Z and X axis at the same time. what this dose is gets rid of the swarf trap and creates a large taper that helps dramatically with swarf evacuation. small g code example (long hand) starting at a point (Sorry I'm a metric man so I will do my best) (basic 2 axis lathe long hand) (INCH CODE EXAMPLE) T0101 G96 S990 M3 M08 G00 X2.165 Z0.118 G01 Z0. F0.012 X1.969 Z-0.197 X1.772 G00 Z0.118 X2.126 X2.444 G01 Z0. X1.969 Z-0.475 X1.772 G00 Z0.118 X2.404 X2.722 G01 Z0. X1.969 Z-0.754 X1.772 G00 Z0.118 X2.683 X3.001 G01 Z0. X1.969 Z-1.032 X1.772 G00 Z0.118 X2.961 X3.279 G01 Z0. X1.969 Z-1.31 X1.772 G00 Z0.118 X3.24 X3.557 G01 Z0. X1.969 Z-1.589 X1.772 G00 Z0.118 X3.518 X3.836 G01 Z0. X1.969 Z-1.867 X1.772 G00 Z0.118 X3.796 X4.114 G01 Z0. X2.146 Z-1.969 X2.027 G00 Z0.118 X4.075 X4.392 G01 Z0. X2.424 Z-1.969 X2.306 G00 Z0.118 X4.353 X4.671 G01 Z0. X2.702 Z-1.969 X2.584 G00 Z0.118 X4.631 X4.949 G01 Z0. X2.981 Z-1.969 X2.863 G00 Z0.118 X4.91 X5.228 G01 Z0. X3.259 Z-1.969 X3.141 G00 Z0.118 X5.188 X5.506 G01 Z0. X3.538 Z-1.969 X3.419 G00 Z0.118 X5.467 X5.784 G01 Z0. X3.816 Z-1.969 X3.698 G00 Z0.118 X5.745 X6.063 G01 Z0. X4.094 Z-1.969 X3.976 G00 Z0.118 X6.023 X6.341 G01 Z0. X4.373 Z-1.969 X4.255 G00 Z0.118 X6.302 X6.62 G01 Z0. X4.651 Z-1.969 X4.533 G00 Z0.118 X6.58 X6.898 G01 Z0. X4.929 Z-1.969 X4.811 G00 Z0.118 X6.859 X7.176 G01 Z0. X5.208 Z-1.969 X5.09 G00 Z0.118 X7.137 X7.455 G01 Z0. X5.486 Z-1.969 X5.368 G00 Z0.118 X7.415 X7.733 G01 Z0. X5.765 Z-1.969 X5.646 G00 Z0.118 X7.694
I loved the pace of this video. Tyson. Your knowledge and understanding of the part is just unbelievable. It’s like a conductor with an orchestra knowing every instrument and every part. You’re very inspirational. Thanks for sharing what you know. Keep up the good work.
Tyson I love the work that You do! We do a little trick when ID turning simmilar parts - we use a ID groove cutter, a D type insert or a V type insert to make a chamfer on the second side large enough so that we don't have to manualy remove the residual face of the stock with pliers. I highly recomend it especialy for austenitic stainless parts - or all steel parts for that matter.
as a machinist at Brunson Instrument - i learned this same intelligence from Larry Guyton who did all of the programming. Larry implemented these types of epic paradigms as a self taught Mastercam programmer. when Brunson offered to send him to Mastercam training in the 90's he turned their offer down & went to his office & started playing with the program. when i arrived & started machining on the slant bed hardinge i began to notice all of these super cool & common tooling setups across parts. then the machine coding actually performing the genius of his creativity finished the story. so glad for your post to walk back my memory with a smile. Tyson Gilroy's cool demeanor reminds me a lot of Larry's casual flair.
I run a similar part, and I've found that I will actually face off the extra stock in the center of the part with a boring bar starting at the center hole and working your way up to the ID of the part. That way when you go to actually face the part down to size, you don't get a massive disc that wants to go flying, and you also don't need to stop the machine to pull the disc off the stock.
Can you just imagine trying to make this part without CNC and Master Cam. I’m still amazed how things were made years before technology made this possible . Great job Tyson!
Only as a hobbyist and tinkerer, but as a lifelong learner - even seeing these real-world scenarios worked through is such an education. Keep doing everything you're doing and more, it puts a little more light into the world.
If you're worried about a tool spindle hitting a top of the chuck - use 45° Tilt Style lathe tool. It provides more clearance between a tool spindle and chuck compared to a traditional vertical lathe tool. And, it also gives you a B-axis movement right on the go.
Sold many a machine to customers doing this kind of work back in the day!! Great part that shows the mill/turn in a fantastic light. The DN SMX3100 ST is a beast with incredible milling capacity!! Great work Tyson!
@Titan, you must be so immensely proud of Tyson. Tyson, very good job walking us through the entire operation. I am curious if making the program is included in costs for a project?
Tyson programming in the drill offset is all the validation I need that when I hand sharpen a drill and it cuts heavier on one side than the other, it’s for a reason and not just a bad sharpen 😂
really good video, and a great part to make. i would love to see a impeller getting programmed and machine by you guys we really have to put boundaries to keep the tool path inside the walls but sometimes we have a curve inside the walls and its a struggle to get that path correct thank you....
Pie jaws are crazy strong. I was only holding on to 4mm@11” dia. Accidentally restarted on the next line and was taking a 400 grand on a facing cut ! The part never moved !!!
What changes have to be made to run the machine(s) without fluid for filming? Either this is a dummy part, or something (speed, depth, etc.) has to be changed, right? If not, that would make the fluid superfluous.
How did you keep it round with so much force to hold the smooth ID and all the material removal on the 2nd op? Stainless is notorious for moving alot when takin so much off.
in our company we are grinding simmiliar part for jet engines, how its ovality and other geometries then you run in whole on lathe ? . we always had some deformations when we tried to make it on SMX. we have same machine like you , but without that revolver only with capto head.
19:50 Why use a conical tool? To have rigidity and still not hit the blade base? Is there a difference in final finish due to the difference in linear speed between the top and bottom parts of the cutter?
Wow eeeee. You guys sure live up to the name. I'm curious ,would machining time and cost be saved if this was atleast roughed by skiving ? Maybe im just to eager for a follow-up on your skiving vid earlier this week ?
Wow amazing job, guys! I was wondering if you haven't had any issues with the roundness of the ID, due to all the removed material and the potential tensions inside of the stainless steel itself? Because I often have problems with the roundness of thin- walled stuff like this..
Guys, you refer to a rocket engine bladed disk, yet you have a thumbnail for this video showing an air-breathing high bypass turbofan engine. Or in other words, a jet engine. That's not a rocket engine, but we'll let that slide 😁
thats funny i just did a 12 hour shift with those kennametal roughing inserts they held up good removing 4mm r X 300mm scaled steel stock. used up 3 inserts on doing 15 parts. Went a little safe on them, could probably have used half the edges i did.
How much time do you spend at the computer programming it all before you go to the machine? Do you ever go back to the computer to change things that worked off line but in the real world did not?
Seriously in the machine shop we use everything guys in Europe make metric threads we make metric UN unified Witworth acme stub acme buttress lowenhurtz on and on and on hell we can even use cubits
That's not how it works machine is made and runs and thinks in metric it only does inches to satisfy us if a part is designed in inches stay with that otherwise if the part is designed in metric you run the machine in metric. Taking an design changing it to metric you lose tolerance if you work in millionths of an inch you will find out it will bite you yes sir machines do run down into the millionths. I have made parts with tolerances in helium light bands. I think that's roughly 3 or 6 millionths been awhile
I wish the company I work for would invest in software and machinery such as yours. I'm stuck programming parts with a calculator still. Needless to say I could never even start on a blisk like you did but without access to the software to learn I'll never even have a chance. Might be time for a company change.....
Maybe a stupid question since im not educated in machining: cant the middle part be cut out so you keep a nice leftover piece of material instead of cutting it all down?
Tyson is the Bob Ross of Machining
This is true. Hopefully Tyson has a pet squirrel with him on the next video
Better be with a literal lifetime dedicated to the trade.
@@Yourmommaluvsmeyou mean Barry? 🤣
"We'll just put some happy little chips right here"
He isn't on these videos enough. I need to see more of Tyson on a weekly basis. 😂
LOVE Tyson video days. Today is one of those days.
There's a lot of planning that goes into programming and running parts like these. Having free access to all this hard earned info is an invaluable resource for programmers and machinists alike. Great video Tyson!
Tyson is my favorite with Titans of CNC. Less arrogance and just simple humility.
Mad scientist at work... Love all of your tutorials. It must be a really cool feeling knowing your parts are responsible for getting these behemoth engineering marvels into space. Always appreciate what you guys do. Much love and gratitude.
not to diminish his work, but this specific part will not go to space. Most if not all aerospace parts are in a locked process for chain of custody purposes. Because he ran without coolant, this part would automatically be disqualified. Also, aerospace blisks are usually made from Inconel, Waspaloy, or Titanium, not stainless steel.
Love watching and learning new tricks. Now I have a trick for you that will change things for you and the industry only if the cadcam industry implement a different method for the rough boring cycle that industry uses.
Rather than the norm that I see with industry using longitudinal internal (Rough boring) cutting along the Z axis only, cutting should be done along a 45 degree angle moving in both Z and X axis at the same time. what this dose is gets rid of the swarf trap and creates a large taper that helps dramatically with swarf evacuation.
small g code example (long hand)
starting at a point (Sorry I'm a metric man so I will do my best)
(basic 2 axis lathe long hand)
(INCH CODE EXAMPLE)
T0101
G96 S990 M3
M08
G00 X2.165 Z0.118
G01 Z0. F0.012
X1.969 Z-0.197
X1.772
G00 Z0.118
X2.126
X2.444
G01 Z0.
X1.969 Z-0.475
X1.772
G00 Z0.118
X2.404
X2.722
G01 Z0.
X1.969 Z-0.754
X1.772
G00 Z0.118
X2.683
X3.001
G01 Z0.
X1.969 Z-1.032
X1.772
G00 Z0.118
X2.961
X3.279
G01 Z0.
X1.969 Z-1.31
X1.772
G00 Z0.118
X3.24
X3.557
G01 Z0.
X1.969 Z-1.589
X1.772
G00 Z0.118
X3.518
X3.836
G01 Z0.
X1.969 Z-1.867
X1.772
G00 Z0.118
X3.796
X4.114
G01 Z0.
X2.146 Z-1.969
X2.027
G00 Z0.118
X4.075
X4.392
G01 Z0.
X2.424 Z-1.969
X2.306
G00 Z0.118
X4.353
X4.671
G01 Z0.
X2.702 Z-1.969
X2.584
G00 Z0.118
X4.631
X4.949
G01 Z0.
X2.981 Z-1.969
X2.863
G00 Z0.118
X4.91
X5.228
G01 Z0.
X3.259 Z-1.969
X3.141
G00 Z0.118
X5.188
X5.506
G01 Z0.
X3.538 Z-1.969
X3.419
G00 Z0.118
X5.467
X5.784
G01 Z0.
X3.816 Z-1.969
X3.698
G00 Z0.118
X5.745
X6.063
G01 Z0.
X4.094 Z-1.969
X3.976
G00 Z0.118
X6.023
X6.341
G01 Z0.
X4.373 Z-1.969
X4.255
G00 Z0.118
X6.302
X6.62
G01 Z0.
X4.651 Z-1.969
X4.533
G00 Z0.118
X6.58
X6.898
G01 Z0.
X4.929 Z-1.969
X4.811
G00 Z0.118
X6.859
X7.176
G01 Z0.
X5.208 Z-1.969
X5.09
G00 Z0.118
X7.137
X7.455
G01 Z0.
X5.486 Z-1.969
X5.368
G00 Z0.118
X7.415
X7.733
G01 Z0.
X5.765 Z-1.969
X5.646
G00 Z0.118
X7.694
Thanks! I really enjoy the Mastercam Turorials and the very detailed walk through. Thanks Tyson 💪
This is without a doubt one of the most interesting Machining Videos I have seen, Thanks!
I loved the pace of this video.
Tyson. Your knowledge and understanding of the part is just unbelievable. It’s like a conductor with an orchestra knowing every instrument and every part. You’re very inspirational. Thanks for sharing what you know. Keep up the good work.
Tyson I love the work that You do! We do a little trick when ID turning simmilar parts - we use a ID groove cutter, a D type insert or a V type insert to make a chamfer on the second side large enough so that we don't have to manualy remove the residual face of the stock with pliers. I highly recomend it especialy for austenitic stainless parts - or all steel parts for that matter.
as a machinist at Brunson Instrument - i learned this same intelligence from Larry Guyton who did all of the programming. Larry implemented these types of epic paradigms as a self taught Mastercam programmer. when Brunson offered to send him to Mastercam training in the 90's he turned their offer down & went to his office & started playing with the program. when i arrived & started machining on the slant bed hardinge i began to notice all of these super cool & common tooling setups across parts. then the machine coding actually performing the genius of his creativity finished the story. so glad for your post to walk back my memory with a smile. Tyson Gilroy's cool demeanor reminds me a lot of Larry's casual flair.
I love your videos, Tyson! You always do an excellent job of explaining your processes. Thank you for being you! 😊
I run a similar part, and I've found that I will actually face off the extra stock in the center of the part with a boring bar starting at the center hole and working your way up to the ID of the part. That way when you go to actually face the part down to size, you don't get a massive disc that wants to go flying, and you also don't need to stop the machine to pull the disc off the stock.
It's nice to see how Tyson has turned into the calm authority when every one else at Titans seem to get more and more crazy 😂
Can you just imagine trying to make this part without CNC and Master Cam. I’m still amazed how things were made years before technology made this possible . Great job Tyson!
Only as a hobbyist and tinkerer, but as a lifelong learner - even seeing these real-world scenarios worked through is such an education. Keep doing everything you're doing and more, it puts a little more light into the world.
I absolutely love how thorough you are explaining your process in your videos, excellent work sir 🤝
Always love the way Tyson explains things.
If you're worried about a tool spindle hitting a top of the chuck - use 45° Tilt Style lathe tool. It provides more clearance between a tool spindle and chuck compared to a traditional vertical lathe tool. And, it also gives you a B-axis movement right on the go.
Tyson is a beast and this is a masterclass of information and technique! Great video all the way around!
Sold many a machine to customers doing this kind of work back in the day!! Great part that shows the mill/turn in a fantastic light. The DN SMX3100 ST is a beast with incredible milling capacity!! Great work Tyson!
Tyson that was an amazing video you explained everything so clearly and concisely probably the best video I have seen on Titans of CNC thank you
the way he explains it is perfect! this is a smart man!
Tyson is the best! Great video!
Y'alls videos are the best!
Great video Tysonian. So easy to listen to. Keep ‘em coming 👍 Also, kudos to the media team. Nice job!
Great video Tyson . Love the detail you go into in your tutorials. You are the boss .... boom bro
Great video Tyson and Adam!
@Titan, you must be so immensely proud of Tyson.
Tyson, very good job walking us through the entire operation. I am curious if making the program is included in costs for a project?
Yep, I am… Thank you
One of the best videos you guys have made. TYSM!
Great video! Awesome explanation Tyson!
The best type video, love to see Tyson explaining. I'm not even a machinist 😅
Nice work Tys! 590 SFM on that drill is pretty wild in stainless/dry
Awesome video Tyson! That SMX is a BEAST
I went to like the video, then a I realized I had already liked it!
Awesome as always guys, great fregging work..
This is very cool, especially the cams for the second turning operation.
Those boundaries setting options are my escape goat every time (in Edgecam), I love it
Great work Tyson! Blisks are awesome!
Love this explanation. Very calm and informative. Thank you!
Tyson programming in the drill offset is all the validation I need that when I hand sharpen a drill and it cuts heavier on one side than the other, it’s for a reason and not just a bad sharpen 😂
The attention to detail is at an epic level.
Barry take notes. 🤣
Great video, it so easy to understand when you explain 👍
really good video, and a great part to make.
i would love to see a impeller getting programmed and machine by you guys
we really have to put boundaries to keep the tool path inside the walls
but sometimes we have a curve inside the walls and its a struggle to get that path correct
thank you....
Pie jaws are crazy strong. I was only holding on to 4mm@11” dia. Accidentally restarted on the next line and was taking a 400 grand on a facing cut ! The part never moved !!!
Tyson kills it!
I would love to see more videos like this.
Awesome video TYSON!!
Tyson is THE MAN!!!
Another lovely vid from Tyson with a Japanese temple feel.
Me, after watching a Tyson video: 🤯👨🎓. EVERY TIME!
More videos like this please this is great!
Can we get a video of rhis being inspected on the cmm!?
Nice work Tyson.
That was an impressive job.
Great job Tyson
What changes have to be made to run the machine(s) without fluid for filming? Either this is a dummy part, or something (speed, depth, etc.) has to be changed, right? If not, that would make the fluid superfluous.
Wow just awesome Tyson!
Gorgeous piece
What are the reasons that trepanning is not used to remove the centre and save a fairly expensive piece of stock?
How did you keep it round with so much force to hold the smooth ID and all the material removal on the 2nd op? Stainless is notorious for moving alot when takin so much off.
00:33 the bottom half of this really needs to be painted blue!
in our company we are grinding simmiliar part for jet engines, how its ovality and other geometries then you run in whole on lathe ? . we always had some deformations when we tried to make it on SMX. we have same machine like you , but without that revolver only with capto head.
Tyson has grown over the years
19:50 Why use a conical tool? To have rigidity and still not hit the blade base? Is there a difference in final finish due to the difference in linear speed between the top and bottom parts of the cutter?
Great video guys , thx. 🚀🚀🚀🚀
more videos like this please!
Wow eeeee. You guys sure live up to the name. I'm curious ,would machining time and cost be saved if this was atleast roughed by skiving ? Maybe im just to eager for a follow-up on your skiving vid earlier this week ?
Wow amazing job, guys!
I was wondering if you haven't had any issues with the roundness of the ID, due to all the removed material and the potential tensions inside of the stainless steel itself?
Because I often have problems with the roundness of thin- walled stuff like this..
For production volume, would you consider trepanning, or hollow bar? Or cast blank?
I love Titans of CNC
Best work Tyson!
Guys, you refer to a rocket engine bladed disk, yet you have a thumbnail for this video showing an air-breathing high bypass turbofan engine. Or in other words, a jet engine. That's not a rocket engine, but we'll let that slide 😁
I agree. They could have used a better thumbnail.
More of these please! More of Tyson and more detailed explanations of procedures and programming!
This is the true Titans academy and I love it!
That's a very interesting part! what roundness were you able to achieve?
Being conservative on the roughing SFM. I run 316 at 600 @ .01 IPR and runs great.
you guy teach only real things , super cool
thats funny i just did a 12 hour shift with those kennametal roughing inserts they held up good removing 4mm r X 300mm scaled steel stock. used up 3 inserts on doing 15 parts. Went a little safe on them, could probably have used half the edges i did.
Machining is an art form.
Great post!!
How much time do you spend at the computer programming it all before you go to the machine? Do you ever go back to the computer to change things that worked off line but in the real world did not?
That was awesome!
I can't believe you aren't using metric yet! Awesome video.
Seriously in the machine shop we use everything guys in Europe make metric threads we make metric UN unified Witworth acme stub acme buttress lowenhurtz on and on and on hell we can even use cubits
That's not how it works machine is made and runs and thinks in metric it only does inches to satisfy us if a part is designed in inches stay with that otherwise if the part is designed in metric you run the machine in metric.
Taking an design changing it to metric you lose tolerance if you work in millionths of an inch you will find out it will bite you yes sir machines do run down into the millionths.
I have made parts with tolerances in helium light bands. I think that's roughly 3 or 6 millionths been awhile
You Are Professionall CNC , Cool
Pure Rocket Science!
Awesome video!
I wish the company I work for would invest in software and machinery such as yours. I'm stuck programming parts with a calculator still. Needless to say I could never even start on a blisk like you did but without access to the software to learn I'll never even have a chance. Might be time for a company change.....
Maybe a stupid question since im not educated in machining: cant the middle part be cut out so you keep a nice leftover piece of material instead of cutting it all down?
21:00 imagine doing a bladed disk with such tall blades that it generates thrust when you do the final finish pass
Metal that was machined? Loved the video.
The first comment. Great job titans
I need your help. I need the name of the company that sold you the titanium block used in the video. I will be very grateful to you ❤
I wonder how this fits into the whole ITAR issue.
Ooof, 316 SS. That's some tough stuff.
amazing!
Love this guy :D
Good job, blokes 👍
so why don't you still make them via a lathe? is the 3d metal printing better?
are you sure thats the rotor? those are very strange blade profiles, is there a 2nd op thats not shown?
PLEASE ADD 4 AXIS wideo FULL MACHINING PART
I wished the autofocus of your cameras could keep up with the quality of the rest of the video...
great information anyway!
Using Mastercam👌👌