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  • Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
  • THIS VIDEO TOOK WAY TOO LONG TO MAKE
    Regardless though, it was fun to make another longer form content video :)
    To clarify, this is a list on their ability to be an effective fighter. Ground capabilities was only considered to break a tie between identical aircraft.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:14 US
    02:43 Germany
    05:56 USSR
    09:13 Great Britain
    11:17 Japan
    12:14 China
    12:29 Italy
    15:47 France
    16:43 Sweden
    18:14 Israel
    19:48 COMPLETED TIER LIST
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  • @thesauceguy1809
    @thesauceguy1809 Рік тому +22

    You should clarify in the title that the video is mostly about air to air abilities, with little to no emphasis on ground

  • @filipesilveira8319
    @filipesilveira8319 Рік тому +41

    I believe you should have considered the ground pound capabilities a bit more... the f4e for example... it is only an ok fighter when it comes to an air battle... but put it in a ground battle... and with a loadout like a couple aim9js , 2 walleyes, 3 mavericks and 2 aim7e2 and it turns into one of the best planes for that role, personaly i believe it should be an A tier...
    Great video tho!

    • @Skringly
      @Skringly Рік тому

      @@perennialE Would certainly be cool to see a ranking video based on high tier CAS sometime.

  • @jupopchups2305
    @jupopchups2305 Рік тому +3

    This is what I have been waiting for! Thank you for all of your videos! :)

  • @Kosmo2
    @Kosmo2 Рік тому +3

    Amazing video as always Perennial, I agree with most of this tier list, that's a nice video format and I think you should do more of these, maybe a missile tierlist would be a great video too!

  • @TheDAWinz
    @TheDAWinz Рік тому +86

    S tier aka the F-16 tier

    • @quarkedbutt3957
      @quarkedbutt3957 Рік тому +13

      S+++ F-14 Tomcat, it literally carries US Teams

    • @EriIaz
      @EriIaz Рік тому +1

      I'd still rather my Tomcat.
      It's superior in BVR by a long shot, and it still can beat an F-16 if you know what you are doing.
      The Falcon being pegged to 9G is what kills it. Sure, a prolonged dogfight will be a problem, and you can rip in a Tomcat if you pull too hard. But you CAN pull hard, and that's what gives you the initiative you need in a fight against both F-16 and MiG-29. It's kinda weird to fight in a Mirage 2K style as a Tomcat, but that works well enough. Can't wait to get an F-14 with a proper engine.

    • @IJN_Guy
      @IJN_Guy Рік тому +1

      @@EriIaz Yeah, I would say that it is the limiter that is used. The F-16, as given by the U.S Air Force, is limited to 9Gs, which is accurate for the governor, but not so much war-time conditions.
      Although I love that Gaijin is making it accurate per the American military's words, but it must be understood that 9Gs was to save the pilot, not only the plane. Other planes that are significantly more fragile (such as the A6Ms and many lower ranked aircraft) are able to pull 15G+ turns without breaking or destroying parts of the plane is a terrible feature. If they are going to limit the F-16, they should accurately model planes to be damaged at unrealistically hard turns. Or, at least slowly start killing the pilot due to how much pressure is being put on his body.

    • @vulgar_potato4992
      @vulgar_potato4992 Рік тому

      @@EriIaz imagine if they gave the F-14D with modernized avionics on it

    • @sadrootbeer
      @sadrootbeer Рік тому +2

      @@EriIaz the only two things that give it an edge are; it gets Phoenixs but those are somewhat easy to dodge, and it's an American plane... Which means your team is full of other F14s and F16s with no high tier prems. Other than that, the F16 beats it out in every other category. Anytime the games comes down to my F16mlu vs an F14, I always slap the F14 so god damn hard.

  • @DavidGutierrez-ed7lk
    @DavidGutierrez-ed7lk Рік тому +3

    Brother I love your vids ❤ keep them coming

  • @Anon-fe1xm
    @Anon-fe1xm Рік тому +4

    It’s like watching a tier list made by and watched by people who haven’t played the game once in their life

    • @mdjd.8893
      @mdjd.8893 Рік тому +2

      agreed, half of this list i disagree with, the other half is just obvious placements that require no thinking.

    • @rekreator9481
      @rekreator9481 Рік тому +1

      Finally someone shares what screams out on me from this video

    • @zee_terminator2850
      @zee_terminator2850 Рік тому +1

      This tier list is frustratingly innacurate. The biggest things I noticed were on the su-17, f4E, and the german 104G. The f4E is still incredible from what ive seen and still holds its own at top tier, considering that every player ive seen with it has roughly a 2:1 K/D and they hold their own well. The german f104G is also an amazing aircraft, it never gets uptiered to 11.7 and holds its own very easily from 9.7 to 11.3 and i grinded out all of my german top tier with that beast. The su-17 is dogshit

  • @nuhuh9893
    @nuhuh9893 Рік тому +1

    I think Harrier GR.7 could sit at B tier. Most people don't know how to use the Harrier effectively. You need to set relative control to "NO" on the "Thrust Vectors". It makes it so you have to hold the button in to have the VTOL facing down, and when you release it the VTOL goes back to the forward flying position. So when you are turning tap the keybind for thrust vector in short bursts and combined with flap use (Harrier has extremely strong flaps) you can turn quicker to get a missile off. I think Harrier pilots use this technique in real life, it's known as 'Viffing'.

  • @TheFlyingPancakeReal
    @TheFlyingPancakeReal Рік тому +16

    THE
    TORNADO
    IDS
    IS
    NOT
    A
    FIGHTER

    • @calle7789
      @calle7789 Рік тому +6

      We get it, its hard but you just have to accept that it is ass

    • @l.bakker7563
      @l.bakker7563 Рік тому

      THE
      TORNADO
      IDS
      IS
      NOT
      A
      GOOD
      BOMBER
      /
      ATTACKER
      EITHER
      YOU
      NEED
      TO
      ACCEPT
      THAT
      IN
      THE
      REALM
      OF
      WARTHUNDER
      IT
      DOESNT
      FIT

    • @Buttlicker-xd6ct
      @Buttlicker-xd6ct Рік тому +5

      So bomber? Automatic f tier

    • @pebbles9973
      @pebbles9973 Рік тому +2

      It's still F tier no matter what, bombers at top tier are almost always automatically F tier and it sucks as a fighter, it literally has no redeeming qualities for ARB right now.

    • @RenaBoyAIM9
      @RenaBoyAIM9 Рік тому +1

      Attackers in air rb do absolutely nothing

  • @nomanpolfnd6484
    @nomanpolfnd6484 Рік тому +24

    The American F-4j also has HMD now so that’s pretty cool

    • @Commenter495
      @Commenter495 Рік тому +1

      Dose the ej have it to?

    • @beardedchinchilla
      @beardedchinchilla Рік тому +9

      @@Commenter495 no just us f4j and mig29

    • @EriIaz
      @EriIaz Рік тому +2

      It's a gimmick if you don't have an all-aspect missile, and I'd rather get that than HMD without it

    • @avtomat6471
      @avtomat6471 Рік тому +1

      Completely pointless

    • @beardedchinchilla
      @beardedchinchilla Рік тому

      it wouldn’t be too bad if ej kai had it with aim9l’s

  • @San4311
    @San4311 Рік тому +3

    J-7D is honestly a really solid plane, deserves to rank higher for sure. While you lack raw thrust it still has a very high thrust-to-weight ratio and a very good climb rate because of it. Top speed might be lacking, but it does not rip in a straight line either.
    PL-5B are the best rear-aspect IR missiles hands down.
    I picked it up to grind my China tree, and I have had great succes with it. While I cannot yet compare it to the J-7E, I'd currently rank it above the MiG-21Bis' easily. R-60M are just complete and utter trash once you've tasted the gloriousness that is PL-5B range, tracking and flare resistance combined with an orbital missile dispensing plane.

    • @danko8983
      @danko8983 Рік тому

      PL-5B doesnt have flare resistance at all either, it is basically a R-60 with more range, but it is dragged down because it is not a all aspect and is on a MiG-21MF at 11.0 with PL-5s, so the MiG-21bis is better and more now that it got all aspect missiles

  • @st.michaelsknight6299
    @st.michaelsknight6299 Рік тому +1

    The f104s has flares now. And a lovely matchmaker.

  • @HaruADVAN
    @HaruADVAN Рік тому

    very clear and concise, great video

  • @bubblesofthecoast6393
    @bubblesofthecoast6393 Рік тому

    Weirdly, the F-4J has the two gimmicks the MiG-29 has; the HMD and the feature where it can lock people up with the HMD. It honestly doesn’t mean much for it, but I just find it interesting thst it has a bunch of additional features to play with

  • @patta8388
    @patta8388 Рік тому +1

    Tornado is really good at Boom&Zoom. It's a high Tier FW-190, two good missiles, two high damage output cannons with long range and ballistic computer, and real good energy retention. Play to its strengths, and you'll start to love it.

    • @honkersss
      @honkersss Рік тому +3

      Too bad that B&Z just doesn't work at toptier. Maybe it is still relevant at 8.7 and below, where all the old "gunfighters" are placed. Boom & zoom at toptier will make you either eat a SARH missile on high altitude / in a headon, or get AIM-9L launched at you from rear-aspect while you trying to "zoom".

    • @patta8388
      @patta8388 Рік тому +2

      @@honkersss it does work, you just need to make adjustments. Boom at low altitude from the side, not from above. Zoom and use your flares/chaff. Yes, sometimes you still die, but in general I've found this works pretty well

    • @TriCop
      @TriCop Рік тому +1

      @@patta8388 I would say that’s cool, but it’s a problem when almost every top tier jet can do what you do better

    • @patta8388
      @patta8388 Рік тому

      @@TriCop I have good experiences with the Tornado. To be fair, I only use the Marineflieger variant, which doesn't constantly has to fight Fulcrums and Falcons.

    • @TriCop
      @TriCop Рік тому +1

      @@patta8388 that’s probably the reason why 😂

  • @beardedchinchilla
    @beardedchinchilla Рік тому

    s tier music such a goated series

  • @tankoftheday7679
    @tankoftheday7679 Рік тому +1

    Hate that people keep saying the Tornado is bad when they’re just playing it wrong-you wouldn’t try to dogfight in the Buccaneer or F-105, they’re bombers.

    • @tankoftheday7679
      @tankoftheday7679 Рік тому

      @@perennialE entirely fair

    • @tankoftheday7679
      @tankoftheday7679 Рік тому

      @@perennialE well it’s not ahistorical, the Tornado is a very heavy plane with high wing loading, it isn’t supposed to be maneuverable. I’ve spoken with some original pilots and they said the strategy they’d use for aerial combat is just take an enemy head-on, fire a missile, and then just keep going straight while they turn, putting the enemy like 5-6 miles behind and slow

  • @jarebare510
    @jarebare510 Рік тому +3

    The sea harrier has a radar, and that’s about it.

  • @blazeiscrazy8737
    @blazeiscrazy8737 Рік тому +2

    Just gonna note something about the 10.7 aircraft. Don't they get downtiers most of the time due to the premium spam? At least, they rarely see 11.7. I've been thinking about getting Kfir Canard but I'm not quite sure yet...

  • @User-rn4bb
    @User-rn4bb Рік тому

    This video is like: im listening to music, while someone is talking in the background

  • @BalianGC
    @BalianGC Рік тому +6

    I personally think the f4j is only just better than fgr but purely because of 7fs the helmet mounted display I am yet to try

    • @molstad182
      @molstad182 Рік тому

      @@perennialE the 7f is no longer the best sarh missile, they just added the R27ER which pulls 30g, easily reaches mach 4.5 on the way to its target, has a sustainer meaning it keeps its energy, thus giving it 40+km range, and it should be near 100 if it was modeled like irl
      the radar on the mig is still a little bugged i believe but from a missile standpoint the ER wipes the 7F

    • @appa609
      @appa609 Рік тому

      @@molstad182 Also the 7M is a straight upgrade over the 7F with an upgraded seeker

    • @molstad182
      @molstad182 Рік тому

      @@appa609 in game the 7M is a copy paste right now of the F because gaijin lazy

  • @jacobthechinchilla8157
    @jacobthechinchilla8157 Рік тому

    The MiG27K has a targeting pod with thermal vision and which is a huge difference to the MiG27M that only has the basic guided bomb camera

    • @salieri_sg9413
      @salieri_sg9413 Рік тому

      It does not. The targeting is built into the nose assembly and it's only optical.

  • @BalianGC
    @BalianGC Рік тому

    Are we going to see a sea barrier video in the future

  • @CircuitCatWT
    @CircuitCatWT Рік тому

    haha, was this the video you mentioned in the discord?

  • @nooblangpoo
    @nooblangpoo Рік тому +1

    Me thinking that the Gaijin didn't put the japanese F-2 is that because they couldn't model AESA radars.

  • @maddoxgaming1363
    @maddoxgaming1363 Рік тому +1

    Swedish main here. I can't disagree with the J35D placement, I'm pretty sure we all know how bad it is when it shares the same space as Aim-7s and 30g missiles. J35XS sounds about right as well. I have to disagree with the JA37C/D placement though. I've flown against F-14/16s for quite a few matches now in both JA37s and have preformed great. F-16s are almost a non-issue ngl but sharing the airspace with a F-14 is terrifying until you get past the head on. Don't know about the Finnish mig 21 bis, didn't grind it out lol.
    Disclaimer from Swedish fanboy, bout to rant about the F-16 v JA37D.
    About that Non-issue comment I made earlier, aside from the Aim-7F I think that both are planes are equal. I've actually run down F-16s on multiple occasions and slung an Rb24j/74 straight into their engine or just hit em with the 30mm. In dogfights the F-16 compresses hard at high speeds and pulls less aoa than the JA37 at lower speeds, from my experience. The biggest plus the F-16 has going for it is that the F-14 has bullied everyone on to the deck so the us F-16s climb to space and lob Aim-9Ls. Which when I had the F-14s on my side and climbed to space I had the same results.

  • @BalianGC
    @BalianGC Рік тому +1

    pretty good list though

  • @Gyyghhhhjjjkk
    @Gyyghhhhjjjkk Рік тому +3

    F16 mlu is literally the same thing as adf but it has ground ordinance. I feel like its just gaijin realizing that lots of players plays US so they decided to make a money grab plane for US tech tree by literally splitting mlu into two separate planes. Typical gaijin move

    • @appa609
      @appa609 Рік тому

      The baffling thing is they put ADF before the A. I think most people are just not going to grind the A since it's just worse.

    • @Gyyghhhhjjjkk
      @Gyyghhhhjjjkk Рік тому

      @@appa609 not for ground players though. Even though by this point I would just use something else for ground rb but yeah some people would still wanna get it

  • @nicolasbonelli4163
    @nicolasbonelli4163 Рік тому

    I agree in almost all of what u said except the position of the f14 in the ranking. If the positions are from left to right , the f14 should be at the first position of the S tier by far. Its currently imo the best fighter in war thunder , it can win in a dogfigjt against everything , has a good amount of one of the best radar missiles (7f's) and it is almost the best in every aspect except in ground capabilities and acceleration.

  • @mil-mi24hind
    @mil-mi24hind Рік тому

    Imo the F4J should be at low A tier because of the helmet targeting for both aim9G and the radar

  • @exstirpo8120
    @exstirpo8120 Рік тому +6

    Nice video, keep them coming. Just a minor criticism but the music is a tad bit loud, making it a little hard to listen.

    • @inoo2345
      @inoo2345 Рік тому

      @@perennialE great choice of music tho ngl super mario galaxy goes hard

  • @wardogleader3200
    @wardogleader3200 Рік тому +2

    Harrier at c tier I disagree, I actually enjoy it a lot, with the láser and the aim9ls you can see and dive into ur víctim. I put him into rank B

  • @IceBreakei
    @IceBreakei Рік тому

    the Mig29 have ERs now, mach 5 radar missiles lol

  • @greywolfgaming5300
    @greywolfgaming5300 Рік тому

    I was wondering. which should I buy
    F4EJ ADTW
    Mig-23ML
    F4J (UK)

  • @schlickyman
    @schlickyman Рік тому +1

    Great video but the song was a little to loud compared to ur voice

  • @mdjd.8893
    @mdjd.8893 Рік тому +2

    an fgr/fg would win against a su17m4, it doesnt matter that it gets 6 r60ms (you get 90 flares). the bvr alone would kill it. i speak from experience.

    • @TheNicestPig
      @TheNicestPig Рік тому +2

      Su-17s in general are dogshit for air RB

  • @tictaculer
    @tictaculer Рік тому +1

    I would say the harrier gr7 should have been a tier

  • @legendbee9579
    @legendbee9579 Рік тому +1

    The ja37D is just c- tier for me, it’s a ja37c with energy problem but against f16 instead of f-4e

    • @CruLisP
      @CruLisP Рік тому

      Ja37d is a god jet with the strongest radar lock wirh aim 9ls, skyflash, and 370 countermeasures and even have a better top speed than every other top tier jet but not as good a accelerarion

    • @CruLisP
      @CruLisP Рік тому

      Its have a own playstyle not just roam and fire missiles

    • @legendbee9579
      @legendbee9579 Рік тому

      @@CruLisP it’s really not! Would have been if it was added alongside F-14a maybe it would have had the missiles as a unique part, now it’s just a thing every top tier yes have
      And no the radar was as they buffed it and it’s still much worse than the American radars, I will give it a better score than the Russian once though

  • @alexd1839
    @alexd1839 Рік тому +4

    Britain casually having nothing beyond C tier. :')

    • @Patex58
      @Patex58 Рік тому

      well brits are the average mid tier cuz nothing op but nothing horrible

    • @thesauceguy1809
      @thesauceguy1809 Рік тому

      The GR. 7 is definitely over C tier and I'd say it's A or S. I rarely get killed unless I'm being ganged on by 2-3 people. I usually get 3-4 kills.

    • @shademandude712
      @shademandude712 Рік тому

      @@Patex58 I mean if were talking high BR it definitely is pretty average but low teir britain has an enormous amount of pretty awful planes

    • @Frozander
      @Frozander Рік тому

      @@Patex58 Tornado is horrible

    • @UchihaMadaraGr
      @UchihaMadaraGr Рік тому

      yes, however i don't think that the main selling point of UK is top tier. They are very strong in all prop tiers and even if not the best, very unique options for t5.

  • @pringle239
    @pringle239 Рік тому

    Wish people would understand, THE FGR TURNS LIKE AN F104, the bigger engines butcher the flight performance outside of a straight line.
    Also yeah... skyflashes...

  • @brick466
    @brick466 Рік тому

    This tier list is great but flawed since, we all know the best multirole top tier aircraft is the S-199.

  • @HMSVanguard46
    @HMSVanguard46 Рік тому +1

    Man hates CAS Aircraft

  • @godwhacker
    @godwhacker Рік тому

    i agree with most of the list, except in its current state, the mig29 is top of A tier, but as it gets fixed/buffed itll prob fall right where you put it. however, the f14 still dominates and completely controls the game. its above the mig29 and maybe some of the f16s

  • @funtick228
    @funtick228 Рік тому

    Good video, but the music was too loud

  • @BOTmaster15
    @BOTmaster15 Рік тому

    I dont quite understand why they added MLU coz MidLifeUpdate just makes F16C equivalent out of F16A block15. Also why only China gets that?

  • @falkeholz1459
    @falkeholz1459 Рік тому

    Personally I disagree with the gr7 I’d put it at A or B because it’s very effective at killing f14s and sometimes f16s cus ppl don’t know what they’re doing and putting the thrust vector to 35% makes it very capable at dog fighting

  • @hyrikul602
    @hyrikul602 Рік тому

    It's a Rank only for Air battle?
    Because if you take CAS inside, the Mirage 2000D is probably the second best top tier CAS plane now.

  • @hansthesoldier8700
    @hansthesoldier8700 Рік тому +1

    About f14 its pohenix is easy to doge and and when it 1st came i tought "well shit its gonna beat everyone in dogfights" but i can beat it while in the kai i just need speed and thats rly it i would put it in the A tier (in my opinion)

    • @beemy.6923
      @beemy.6923 Рік тому +1

      I think the Phoenix is just a gimmick, what you should be worrying about is the sparrows.

    • @danko8983
      @danko8983 Рік тому +1

      i could also defeat F-14s in the F-4E dogfighting them but that doesnt mean the F-14 is worse than they dogfighting, it means that the pilot flying it is absolute trash, F-14 should be 11.7 even with its current armament without AIM-9Ls, since it has just the armament capacity of the F-4s, together with one of the best radars in game, F-16 level of maneuverability and a insane versatility to fight enemys

    • @hansthesoldier8700
      @hansthesoldier8700 Рік тому

      @@danko8983 i never said f14 is bad i just said its not that good if u know how to counter it

    • @danko8983
      @danko8983 Рік тому +1

      @@hansthesoldier8700 idk how would you know how to counter it if it outclasses basically anyone in nearly every aspect, it basically is on par with MiG-29 and F-16, a good F-14 pilot would defeat any other plane that has a good pilot too

    • @beemy.6923
      @beemy.6923 Рік тому

      @@danko8983 I mean there’s a reason it was, and probably still is, the best fighter plane in war thunder.

  • @FreakishWizardthegamingwizard

    Bro we just going to ignore all of the ground attack capability of each of these planes like wtf

  • @Pioneer_DE
    @Pioneer_DE Рік тому +1

    No, the Tornado IDS is suprisingely good in Air to air, it should be in C Tier ATLEAST, as for the F104G, put that shit in F.

  • @thetaxikab604
    @thetaxikab604 Рік тому

    F-14 should be in its own slot called "bullshit op"

  • @appa609
    @appa609 Рік тому +1

    you can't put all tornadoes in F tier it has 4 AIM-9L's. It's a faster Gr7 with fewer flares.

  • @cmdrfrosty3985
    @cmdrfrosty3985 Рік тому

    Can anyone tell me the music used in this video?

  • @Messerschmitt_BF_109G_10
    @Messerschmitt_BF_109G_10 Рік тому

    It's ironic how all of the exported variants are better than the base F 16 which is supposed to be better

  • @dosidicusgigas1376
    @dosidicusgigas1376 Рік тому

    The MIG-23ML has R24r/t missles, not R23

  • @whiskers7118
    @whiskers7118 Рік тому +1

    It’s a opinion list I get it but the d tier is soo off I’m a ground main and owns most of those jets and I’m only going negative in the starfighters

  • @appa609
    @appa609 Рік тому +1

    bro you can't just jam everything into C tier

  • @StepaTalis
    @StepaTalis Рік тому +1

    where is f104J for japan??

  • @user-jy6cn3jy8g
    @user-jy6cn3jy8g 10 місяців тому

    Well 8 month later we have “useless” f-5e with 75% arb win rate instead of 45-55% any other has. Surely “it’s time has passed”😂

  • @BradyWoodward34
    @BradyWoodward34 Рік тому

    Ok but in what world is a f104 better than a mig23 mld and a j7e???

  • @serasgaming
    @serasgaming Рік тому

    so one kinda minor thing about the video itself the music needs to be about halve the volume of ur voice background music is nice but its background for a reason

    • @serasgaming
      @serasgaming Рік тому

      @@perennialE ah yea thats annoying lol what software do u use to edit?

  • @dudemynameisdebo
    @dudemynameisdebo Рік тому

    God the ML is so ridiculous for a premium... Got a kill with every missile last night.
    Just climb to 8k+ meters angled to the enemy runway. Dive missiles down on them at mach 1+

    • @godwhacker
      @godwhacker Рік тому

      @@perennialE dont forget that the r24t has better flare resistance too ;)

    • @mdjd.8893
      @mdjd.8893 Рік тому +1

      @@godwhacker no, the r27t has better flare resistance by far

  • @Alexander-rx1xy
    @Alexander-rx1xy Рік тому

    Bro where the A6E at?

  • @blinded96
    @blinded96 Рік тому

    He sounds like nile red

  • @wongarnold2879
    @wongarnold2879 Рік тому

    It’s a joke that the mig 29 is S tier and better than the f14.

  • @lordtouchme3397
    @lordtouchme3397 Рік тому

    People don't listen sometimes. Performance doesn't matter in top tier anymore. That's why the F-14 is still top dog. 6 aim-7s with the best radar literally in the game it's too much.
    I'm literally getting 3 to 4 kills each game without even trying

  • @zahnatom
    @zahnatom Рік тому +2

    i'd put the 37C at C tier.

    • @CircuitCatWT
      @CircuitCatWT Рік тому

      it's not that bad it's still somewhat competitive at top tier

    • @zahnatom
      @zahnatom Рік тому

      @@CircuitCatWT the 37C? hell no
      absolutely not. nerfed to shit radar, crap missiles, meh flight performance

    • @mdjd.8893
      @mdjd.8893 Рік тому

      @@zahnatom flight perfomance is great, radar is quite good, missiles are OK (not the best, but still useable). i flown it many times, i like the ja37c

    • @zahnatom
      @zahnatom Рік тому

      @@mdjd.8893 i've flown it over a thousand times
      radar is nerfed as fuck
      flight performance is meh
      missiles are crap

    • @mdjd.8893
      @mdjd.8893 Рік тому +1

      @@zahnatom u just repeated ur previous point. how about a ja37c 1v1?

  • @Netto711
    @Netto711 Рік тому +1

    They Butchered the Tornado.

  • @fazerswinky2766
    @fazerswinky2766 Рік тому

    ThE ToRnAdO Is A BoMbEr NoT A FiGhTeR

  • @SkinkUA
    @SkinkUA Рік тому

    Jake tier list

  • @mogus6271
    @mogus6271 Рік тому

    i dont see the a6e tram

  • @TheKingmanthe1
    @TheKingmanthe1 Рік тому +1

    music to loud and distracting, no music would sound a lot better or something very low

  • @BalianGC
    @BalianGC Рік тому +2

    gr.7 in c teir. really

    • @ProjectRias
      @ProjectRias Рік тому +1

      @@perennialE Agreed, the GR7 isn't competitive and this is coming from someone who has a 3 K/D in it. People just die to it due to their skill issues and inability to counter, and then call the aircraft things like a "Dogfight monster" . From what I've gathered, People don't know how to counter it, they die and claim it's an insane aircraft. I do well due to skill and knowing the aircraft not the aircraft itself.
      In short, If you see a GR7 low, going 0.8 in a straight line and periodically flaring, DON'T Try and engage with guns, It will lead to a vertical one circle turn which you will 100% loose , thus being sent to the hangar.
      People really just play into it's advantages is what I've noticed XD

  • @SamSamiiiii
    @SamSamiiiii Рік тому

    J7D IN D TIER? Its a mig21 with PL5Bs yeah but, they are very very strong missiles. The plane is D tier, but missiles are S tier. IMO should be C.

  • @westernflyer7453
    @westernflyer7453 Рік тому +1

    How the fuck is the J-7D D Teir, have you gone mental? It’s like the easiest plane to get aces in, it’s a mig 21 with 4 magics, that sentence alone should say how OP it is 😂🤣

    • @amazingjarl7147
      @amazingjarl7147 Рік тому +2

      it’s at 11.0 i believe
      so almost every game it’ll be facing F-16s f14s mig29s
      it will suffer
      the mig 21s flight model is also ass
      the magics are OK but they’re not all aspect so they’re not the best

    • @ProjectRias
      @ProjectRias Рік тому

      @@perennialE These guys really judging an aircraft based on the G tolerance of the missile LOOL . It's like "Tell me you bought your way to top tier without telling me you bought your way to top tier"

    • @westernflyer7453
      @westernflyer7453 Рік тому

      @@amazingjarl7147 the thing is I bought it and it’s just kills kills kills its so easy to get ace matches In

  • @pani_3776
    @pani_3776 Рік тому +1

    Please lower the music man

  • @chickensya
    @chickensya Рік тому

    MiG 27M is worse than all MiG 23s as a fighter, it’s just not as fast even spaded
    -and no radar?

  • @thereaper8593
    @thereaper8593 Рік тому +1

    The f4e is pretty fun to play and you can do well. The f4f is just trash

    • @thereaper8593
      @thereaper8593 Рік тому

      @@perennialE it’s tempting since i love the thing but you aren’t wrong.

    • @rekreator9481
      @rekreator9481 Рік тому

      @@perennialEso why is j7e up there just cause Its fun?:DD I know you cant be 100% objective but come on, some things are just pain in the eye there

    • @rekreator9481
      @rekreator9481 Рік тому

      @@perennialEsu17 not even talking about

  • @Archlight-rz2sd
    @Archlight-rz2sd Рік тому

    Put the all the phantoms in s teir with the tornados all of them put everything else in F teir there’s the list I will say mig29 goes in D teir

  • @danielcsik8970
    @danielcsik8970 Рік тому

    mig23ML/MLA/MLD is an easy tierS, f104 ASA is a B tier plane, F4J tier A, mig-21 BIS Mig 27 harrier GR7 deserves tier B

  • @fuggamingyt7461
    @fuggamingyt7461 Рік тому +2

    i cant stop laughing bro put 104 asa infront mig 23 mld mla hahahaahah

  • @JHorsti
    @JHorsti Рік тому

    Please turn down the music next time, way too loud.

  • @Daniel-ie3mt
    @Daniel-ie3mt Рік тому +1

    music is too loud and annoying

  • @thesauceguy1809
    @thesauceguy1809 Рік тому

    I don't understand the Harrier GR. 7 being C tier since I feel like it can outmaneuver everyone or almost everyone, has constant flares, and has thrust vectoring to screw with people in dogfights. I generally get 3-4 kills without dying and I usually only die when I'm being ganged up on by 3+ people.

    • @thesauceguy1809
      @thesauceguy1809 Рік тому +1

      @@perennialE I understand that, but you could say the same with f-104s and you must keep in mind that the majority of players can't energy fight.

    • @thesauceguy1809
      @thesauceguy1809 Рік тому +1

      @@perennialE agree to disagree then. The Harrier is much more useful for me because most people try to turn and then they just die. It can evade better than most jets at the BR and it has very fast acceleration. I also fly it at very low altitude and usually get the first 2-3 kills.

    • @ProjectRias
      @ProjectRias Рік тому +2

      @@thesauceguy1809 I have the GR7 and average 3Kills, however we both know it's down to skill in this thing, it IS less competitive than other aircraft and at a disadvantage. Other aircraft are simply better, regardless of how well you perform in game the generalisation of the ranking is set by the aircraft individual characteristics

    • @thesauceguy1809
      @thesauceguy1809 Рік тому

      @@ProjectRias If you're rating the aircraft based on speed and armament alone, then sure. The reality is that in Air RB, you're not going to have to deal with energy fighting very often. If you fly low altitude in the GR. 7, you really don't have to worry about IR missiles because you can have 700 reinforced flares lol. If you need to dodge anything, it's also incredibly easy. I think the GR. 7 is better than MOST of the A and B tiers in this list, but not really anything in S. The playstyle is very suited to the current state of Air RB, which is turn fighting at low altitude. Most of my deaths in the thing have been from guns when I have multiple jets on me and no team. The only aspects that the vehicle lacks are an extra two IR missiles, radar missiles, and speed (but acceleration basically negates this). Even against an energy fighting jet, you can often out maneuver them or pull some weird thrust vector maneuver where they'll often just crash.

    • @rekreator9481
      @rekreator9481 Рік тому

      @@thesauceguy1809dude tell us your in game name so we can check your KDR, cause from what you write It seems to me as utter bullshit.. at best I think you average barely 1 kill per game

  • @quarkedbutt3957
    @quarkedbutt3957 Рік тому +1

    The F14 literally carries the US team

  • @canman2216
    @canman2216 Рік тому +1

    Why do you sound like nilered

  • @ognjensarcevic8898
    @ognjensarcevic8898 Рік тому

    The mig 29 I worse then f 16s just bc american means cried over it on the test servevrs

  • @tarkovplayah5075
    @tarkovplayah5075 Рік тому

    The 10.7 tornado is a beast and needs to be 11.3

  • @a.j.gallegos2191
    @a.j.gallegos2191 Рік тому

    To bad we have to play on prop sized maps and games are over in 2 minutes.

    • @San4311
      @San4311 Рік тому

      Because most of the player base has the attention span of a small child. Everyone hates large maps because i HaVe To dRiVe/FlY fOr mOrE tHaN 1 MiNutE.
      I just wish EC would return tbh

  • @Anon-fe1xm
    @Anon-fe1xm Рік тому

    3:59 the mig 23mf is broken what do you mean?? It’s at least A tier like I have both the mig and phantom and the phantom can’t touch the mig in a dogfight and if you know how to fly evading it’s missiles are easy so you could’ve at least had a little self respect and put it over the phantom
    Obviously a bias video

  • @ilikeships9333
    @ilikeships9333 Рік тому

    Nilered??

  • @danielnoahalie9186
    @danielnoahalie9186 Рік тому

    What's the song?

  • @zulu0489
    @zulu0489 Рік тому

    I am a German NATO player, so I am pretty much fcked now...

  • @ericmorton1123
    @ericmorton1123 Рік тому

    Mig29 s tier😂 have you even played it bro

  • @vonschwendeman2611
    @vonschwendeman2611 Рік тому

    Turn off the music please

  • @lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl

    Bro put the F-14 below the Mig 29 💀

  • @rekreator9481
    @rekreator9481 Рік тому

    Su17 m4 wtf… AKA, “Im rating better things I played with”:D

  • @shrecster
    @shrecster Рік тому +1

    first!

  • @theplvortexz
    @theplvortexz Рік тому

    Idk why he gives me a Nerd Emoji vibe

  • @maggot4395
    @maggot4395 Рік тому

    mig29 in s tier? lmao ok sure

    • @amazingjarl7147
      @amazingjarl7147 Рік тому +3

      you want it to go higher?
      i don’t see the issue

    • @handzze7341
      @handzze7341 Рік тому +1

      Bro GE'ed his way to top tier lmao. Breath some copium bruh.

    • @maggot4395
      @maggot4395 Рік тому

      @@amazingjarl7147 lmao the trash can go to 10,7 and stilll do bad

    • @maggot4395
      @maggot4395 Рік тому

      @@handzze7341 nothing to cope about lmao the shit is bad the cannon is better than all the aam's it gets

    • @amazingjarl7147
      @amazingjarl7147 Рік тому +1

      @@maggot4395 how?
      are you ok?
      what’s bad about it?
      it has some if not the best flight performance in the fucking game
      2x R27s and 4x R60Ms along with it
      it is a BEAST
      better than the F16 imo
      please explain to me how it’s bad
      or if YOURE just bad and don’t know how to fly the thing