Wizard, much respect when a man is willing to learn new skills. Daniel is a good addition to the staff. BTW, we stopped by Friday afternoon to buy one of your T shirts for my grandson. He grinned. Hoovie arrived at the same time, but you were in the middle of working so I went inside, met Crazy D, bought the shirt and headed out.
Hi I owned a carburettor 308 for 20 years. The carbys were so reliable ,once set up nicely . I did not have to touch an idle mixture screw for over 15 years it always ran exactly the same. One of the important changes you need is an electronic ignition conversion with electronic spark curve ,many people fiddle with the carburettors because of inconsistent spark curve on the original ignition. Regards from Australia 🇦🇺
Great comment, but we're not dealing with huge elevation differences here in Nanny State Australia..and that kit he has does look pretty awesome. Personally, i'd retain the carbies.
My street stock race car runs on a holley 2 barrel carb, once set correctly, no problems all season, and not hard to work on. So sad so many ppl are afraid of manual machical objects, bitch how ripped off they are on repairs of automatic electronic objects,
@@Dave.S.TT600 Hey nice work bringing your warped political opinions into this car site Dave....what's a matter not enough guns or are you worried about 5 G trackers in your vaccine?
I think the investment in the stock air cleaner is worth it. Will look so clean and stock and still work with the fuel injection. And provide cold air through the scoops right to it. I'd say go for it wizard!
Whatever you use as air filter, make sure you keep utilizing the starboard scoop for cold intake air. I do a lot of gravel road driving with one of my 308s and the stock filter works fine, albeit with very regular changes.
@@Dave5843-d9m yes, David you can. But you would need to swap sides with the oil cooler which is getting the first exposure from the port-side duct flow.
It’s so awesome that Stanceworks is helping you out with parts. Those parts being used to keep another car on the road instead of junked is great. His build is epic and it’s going to be fun to see it finished.
@@cencio_1976 Alas it happens. Samcrac has a video from a few weeks back where he got most of a 360 engine for free that had been out side at a shop for years after an LS swap.
I didn’t realize these had only 230 hp. Of course sports cars changed from being sporty to more muscle cars. You don’t need over 500hp to enjoy driving a car.
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 Its supposed to have 240hp. 15hp difference to euro version (255hp) isnt that bad, I think. Its an old car with a not very large engine after all.
I'm always amazed by the number of old Euro cars that have GM parts. I had a 1970 Lotus Europa which was built at the Lotus factory in England (I used to get so annoyed when know-it-all types would call it a kit car). But like all Lotus cars of the day, it was made up of Ford, Renault, GM and multiple other parts. Mine was upgraded to a track car and featured a Renault Gordini cross-flow hemispherical engine with a 5sp tranny. When I sold it in 2006, it still had the original power window motors which were Oldsmobile. I did upgrade the alternator to a GM alternator which was superior to the old Lucas or whatever it was.
The good thing about the down time of waiting for parts is that it gives Mrs. Wizard plenty of time to find the perfect sunglasses to wear while driving HER Ferrari.
'Vintage Ferrari sunglasses' is a good place to begin in that search on the internet. Although, would it be ironic to wear a pair of 'Porsche Design' sunglasses in the Ferrari?
Another good advert for your business. A wise person realises you never stop learning and don't know it all. To admit an employee knows more than you do on a certain subject creates respect and kudos for your shop.
Over 4 years on the Quadrajet carburetor in my 1969 Camaro and I haven't had to touch it. People hate on those but they're really nice once set up properly.
The Car Wizards has the coolest walk on UA-cam! I'd love to see a continuous loop video of him just waddling around on his stubby little legs with Pantera's WALK as the background music!
Hey, my opinion is less electronics the better. Remember the movie, Tom Cruise “ War of the Worlds”? The only thing that ran/runs as a getaway vehicle was Cruise’s ‘66 Mustang with a points system. Ya, I know the running Mustang would probably would not happen in the real World EMP attack.
I like anything that runs but I will say that a carburator is a non worry item if done right. I just pump twice and go for decades. No chip shorts on a Carby. Great day to you Mr. Wizard!
for a generic quadrajet or holley, you're right. usually set it and forget it. but these italian carbs are NOT set it and forget it. literally every few months they have to be fully re-tuned just to deal with different air density from temperature changes with the weather. or if you go up a mountain pass, it will run terrible. the smartest thing for a car like this, to use as a joyrider, is to swap to fuel injection. it will also have better fuel economy, less emissions, and probably a bit more power.
I learned to love the Holley carb on my boat but only after I got an electronic ignition from D.U.I. Points etc are the cause of most carb issues on old cars and the reason the beltline was lined with cars, hoods up, in the 70s and 80s.
Hey You Two--- Thank You So Much for keepjn' after this 308. As an ol' feller the 308s, the Dinos & Testarossas have that Unique look. The *Flavor* has been lost in the Newer ones & just Blend into the rest of the Supercars of today. BTW... Ferrari factoid-- Testerossa, "Red Head" in Italian the reason the Valve Covers are Red. Thanks Again
The sound the carbs make on the 308 turns the engine into a complete symphony. Also, the popping of the exhaust after you let off of the throttle gives you the feeling you are handling a wild animal.
Next time Hoovie shows up and needs to pay a big bill , I want to see the Wizard looking up 308 air cleaners boxes on the PC.. Dan is the man! Can't wait to hear the 308 running with EFI !!
Looks like the same fuel pump on my 88 Saab 900 Turbo SPG. That car sat from 1994 to 2010. I drained the fuel and purged the fuel system when I got it. It started right up. It still has the same fuel pump today.
Nicely done wizard,however you might want to look at the feeling system pressure,might i caution you to consider two Bosch pumps with a pressure accumulation unit to even out the supply at higher demand levels great work looking forward to seeing the completed Car running.
There are positives to carburetors. One thing is that if you drive a performance vehicle with a stick shift you will realize a huge difference. The first time I experienced it , I did not know what to think. It is called Rev hang. You let off of the accelerator quick to shift and the rpms won't drop quickly and you have to wait for them to come down. Then when you punch the accelerator, there is a lag before the motor reacts. I was born in 1967. I have been a gear head all of my life. I got to enjoy huge V8 engines in small light cars with even bigger monster engines in mid sized cars of the time period. I drove lots of vehicles with stick shifts in all different forms. The funnest was a VW GTI with a stick. The second was a 74 Monte Carlo hotrod I built. 454 with a Muncie 6 speed. I had to roll the windows down when I opened it up so that they would not shatter when the top pulled away fro. The car at high speed. Anyway a Holley 750 cfm double pumper was my carb of choice or the Quadra jet copy that Edelbrock put out. The Holley was my favorite big block fuel feeder. It was very responsive with a stick. To this day a well tuned holley 750 will outperform injection on the dyno on a V8 old school muscle car.
you have the front throttle bodies backwards, you want the injectors to spray on the back of the intake valves, not on the intake wall you should have also used 12 hole injectors for better atomization, you'd get the same power with better fuel economy and a better crank position sensor holder, the one you have will get loose and eat the sensor
"Today, we're going to be looking at my Ferrari 308..." (Background) "MY Ferrari!"😂 You guys are crackin' me up! Can't wait for the road trip episode! Thanks, Mr. and Mrs. Wizard!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
Here in India, even motorcycles & scooters have moved on to fuel injection since introduction of BS-VI ( Equivalent to Euro-5) emission norms. One good side effect is mileage has improved even though the new 2-wheelers cost much more than before. Some of that has to do with increasing prices of steels & plastic, but the BS-VI move & subsequent addition of FI caused price increase of about 8-10K INR ($100-130) in all 2-wheelers. Now, nobody makes chips in India. And even after a war, and another almost war, we still get chips from China. Hopefully current Govt's PLI(Production Linked Incentive) program will work and we will wean ourselves off Chinese chips!!
The hand brake its from an old Seat/Fiat car, my mother's Seat 127 had the same hand brake. Also you can find the same lever in old Lada cars like the Niva.
Great news on the Ferrari, and it's both of yours isn't it?! Mr & Mrs Wizard's special 308! Can't wait to see you both enjoying it. Thanks for posting.
Very exciting to follow your 308! Your fuel injection setup will for sure be flawless. Nevertheless, those Webers were rather sophisticated for its time and don't miss out on fuel injected systems, as much as people's generalizations will make believe. I live in the Alps and drive continuously both on high altitudes and by the coastline, all year around and in all kinds of weather. My carbed Ferraris are obviously lacking a little in altitude flexibility in comparison to my fuel injected Ferraris. But I must insist that it is not by much. Your 308 will put the hook in you. It's a fabulous sports car.
Yep, 308s are pretty nice cars, my friend had a diesel one and it was quite economical. Myself I had the predecessor 307, though with the petrol 2.0 in it.
@@ILCapo-mo5jj Dont know if you got my joke (wasnt a very good one, I can agree, but I couldnt resist), I was alluding to the fact that "308" also is a popular Peugeot model as were the eariler 307, 306 etc.
LoL, I "Used" to own a really nice lifted jeep Wrangler. My wife stole it from me about an hour after we bought it (New) however, I have noticed that as long as I do the work and maintenance on it, she lets me drive it all I want. I do love the look on people's faces when they say "Wow, nice Jeep!" To which I say; "Thanks, it's my wife's.". On the subject of 308's: I have owned two of them over the years. One was fuel injected and the other wasn't. Both were great driving cars, but the FI car was better on trips, especially in the mountains of Colorado.
I had 4 Webers in my 78 Aston Martin V8 Volante so I agree that they are a pain to keep in tune. I used to keep them a little rich so I didn't have to fool with them as much, sometimes not on purpose as the floats would get pinhole leaks. It is not cool to drive a nice car that smells like gasoline or is hard to start or stumbles when the weather changes.
I'm with you, Wizard. You can get great results from carburetors, but they need to be adjusted constantly to get there and stay there. EFI is much nicer in that respect.
It’s the difference between having an automatic coffe maker and grinder, vs grinding it yourself and poring it yourself. One takes more work, but also has more soul and give you a greater connection to the process (driving).
4:00 one thing about radios etc in vehicles. You don't need an indash radio or gps or anything anymore....all you need is a small amplifier hidden away somewhere and an audio in jack from your phone and a phone mount. Your phone has everything that radio has and more. To eliminate the "turn on" function of the amp/radio you just put an on/off switch to the turn on wire so when you want to listen to the radio, you just flip that switch. Now some amps are sensitive to a higher amperage higher voltage 12V turn on, some "thump" when you flip the switch, you can do that with a step down resister soldered into the turn on wire. Once you eliminate the radio, you can make a nice cover plate for that area and attach your phone mount to it so it's nice and handy when you're driving.
@@wymple09 It’s no secret that Fieros have the torsional rigidity of a wet noodle. You can jack them up on a corner and the doors won’t open. You must not be very bright if you think I’m kidding that an 80s GM car was flimsy
@@sav22rem22 I have an 86 GT with a 3800 swap, and you are full of it. The whole car is a damn space frame and it's among the best performers in history in crash tests. These things are raced against Miatas & such which you don't do with any kind of "noodle". Educate yourself before saying such ridiculous things. I suppose you still think they all caught fire as well.
I am familar with these cars, the 308 GTB/GTS is one of my favorites. I agree with everything you are doing on it. It will make it much more livable on a daily basis. Can't wait to see how the injection turns out.
Wizard with the performance mods. Love it! Kudos to Danielsan! BTW, you had that seat mounted for your size, right? Mrs. Wizard won't be able to reach the pedals. Tricky.
I don't blame you for doing this...sat behind a Magnum pi style Ferrari a few years back I a queue of traffic in a small town high street in the UK. Even though it was warm, even talking to my partner sat next to me...in the car...was difficult. Gawd only knows what it musve sounded like in the street!
I wonder what Donnie Callaway would do with this car. I feel like electromotive just isn’t the way. Haltechs aren’t hard to get right now and they work amazing.
I don't/can't have a problem with you making the Chevrolet of Ferrari's (they made so many 308's) dependable it's a testament to American ingenuity and engineering expertise & your incredible wisdom YOU ARE TRULY A WIZARD
These Weber carbs offer high flow meaning low depression across the carb. This also means these type carbs are very sensitive to any changes in fuel character, air pressure, and air temperature. On the other hand, carbs which have more pressure drop across the carb have more feedback which means much more stable operation across variations in the above mentioned parameters. This is a choice between the possibility of the very highest performance and a bit less performance with much more stable carb operation. If one wants more stable operation from a Weber carb use smaller throat inserts which will provide more feedback and more stable performance across the above variations.
Hey Wizard & Mrs Wizard, I love your emotional support animal for the 308!!! The biggest question of a generation is, is the 308 The Wizards car or is it Mrs Wizards car??? I vote for joint custody!!! 👍👍😁
Wizard. I had the same Dual HU in my Corolla. It didn't transfer power to the speakers correctly, something with channel distribution and wouldn't power down correctly. Went with a Pioneer that is also shallow fitment. Way better sounding and works like it should!
The chip shortage is caused by the motor industry demanding obsolete chips that chip fabs no longer want to make at rock bottom prices. The problem won’t go away until the industry wakes up and gets with current technology at reasonable costs to the chip fabs.
Been saving and getting dti in line for 5 years to buy a house and here we are... I feel you wizard. Sucks to make the right decisions and have crap timing!!!
Back in 1992 I had what turned out to be my only chance at a Ferrari I could actually afford. It was a 308 for 25k. Took the wife to see it. She was not amused and said no. Probably the best thing that ever happened. I have given up on my dream, and it's ok.
I love carburetors, I've put SU carbs on an injected z-car because it was cheaper and simpler in my case to do so over refurbishing the efi system. I enjoyed tuning and balancing them, I give them a check over every few months, usually they don't need touching, and I believe the power and drivability difference is negligible over the efi it had. Too each their own, but I would've perservered with the Webers on that car just for the induction noise alone.
Wizard is humble enough to know that Daniel will be teaching HIM some things about the 308! He is too tall to be comfortable in the 308, while Mrs Wizard is the ideal height for the 308!
Quiet fuel pump, I do agree about the sound... Was almost instant regret when I changed mine, but you learn to live with the new noise I guess... but I won't do that again...
There’s something about your uploads that are extremely watchable but also easy to comprehend for a novice like me. Great upload Wizard! Also your beard is majestic.
What do you mean what is going on, it’s simple supply and demand, demand is high in supply is low. To make things worse supply is low mostly due to global shortage because of factory shut downs for almost a year in some countries. The shortage is not just apply to this country, it’s globally.
I've tuned cars with dual carbs before, and that was *REALLY* difficult. I simply cannot imagine tuning *FOUR* of them -- particularly on a machine as finicky as a 1970s Ferrari. You can always put it back to stock, too -- those TBI units bolt right up to where the carbs go, and it's really easy to switch back to the original fuel-pump. So the folks who are absolute sticklers for "originality" shouldn't be upset.
The interesting thing about the component shortage (it isn't just chips) is that one part might be out of stock with no more for 12+ months while another is available that is slightly different. The difference might just be what sort of package it is in. So companies that can quickly redesign products to use a slightly different chip can continue production. Of course, as soon as they do that, the other chip variant will be out of stock... We're having to buy enough parts to last us 12-18 months now. Otherwise there is no point doing the design if we won't be able to make it when it's finished. Of course that doesn't help supplier stock levels but you gotta do what you gotta do. I bet everyone else is doing the same thing.
I own an online auction company and we have a Ferrari 308 that will be selling soon, so I found this video very knowledgeable considering I know very little about Ferrari’s in general…. Thanks!
Daniel-San is a cool guy, as always. Nice to see him again. Seems that he's getting more relaxed on camera too! You wouldn't get me on camera on UA-cam..
Manual (or "stick shift" as you call it) is more fun to drive, makes one feel really involved and gives more control, unfortunately I had to switch to automatic due to health issues (damaged spinal cord, thus my legs sometimes give up). But besides fun part and adverse conditions like mud, snow and ice, automatic has it's advantages too - continuous transfer of torque, ensuring faster acceleration, and convenience.
While I beleve people should do what they like with their cars, the seats are rather unfortunate and your guys should've sourced genuine Connoly leather. That beautiful waxy leather is a huge part of the Ferrari experience.
Heck, my mom had to go out and buy a whole new car because her ABS module went out the other day on her Prius and the shop didn’t feel good about any of the salvage parts that were available (and on brakes, I don’t blame them). A new ABS controller was going to be a few grand and take at least a 2-3 months to get. We’re not talking about anything exotic either, she drove a 2010 Prius.
Great that you have a good team and good connections to suppliers and other channels. Interesting to see you modify this to be more non-stock since it's not usually your MO. And of course Bosch parts work on it, everybody uses those 😁 The interior looks so much better now.
You're gonna need 2" velo stacks inside the air box to actually get that extra HP out of those ITBs. That also requires extra height to the box, so OEM box is basically pointless. Just fab a new box out of alu sheet and paint it black. The original box was too small anyways, resulting said carburator issues. Also, your wiring harness is toasted. The main power lines have cooked insulators, and will burst into flames when powered back up.
Not sure I’m surprised but happy to see you and mike at stanceworks doing something together. I feel like the channels focus is miles apart but still both great to watch.
I was hoping you would do a WCFB carb conversion, but I'm a gross old man. Nice to see the old girl come together, with some expert help. Great community you have there.
I understand you (kind of), but I have years ago adjusted carburettors on hundreds of Ferrari's and Lamborghini's and adjusting these is an art and also to me nostalgic. You have to synch them once or twice a year but thats it. I am aware of that there are not many of us left who really can adjust these carbs (many claim they can but it is all lip service). Many can do laptop injection so in that respect you are probably better of with injection. However you do not get the authentic old Webber sound. 😏
Wizard, much respect when a man is willing to learn new skills. Daniel is a good addition to the staff. BTW, we stopped by Friday afternoon to buy one of your T shirts for my grandson. He grinned. Hoovie arrived at the same time, but you were in the middle of working so I went inside, met Crazy D, bought the shirt and headed out.
Kudos for being able to appreciate the moment without making it all about you and interrupting!
@@mattmalenda6585 [turns down the reggaeton as car pulls in]
@@josekanucee1428 lmao
Ron seems like a great guy too😂😂
Thanks for the shout! I'm glad the compressor is going to a good home.
That's because your 308 is legendary.
Hi I owned a carburettor 308 for 20 years. The carbys were so reliable ,once set up nicely . I did not have to touch an idle mixture screw for over 15 years it always ran exactly the same. One of the important changes you need is an electronic ignition conversion with electronic spark curve ,many people fiddle with the carburettors because of inconsistent spark curve on the original ignition. Regards from Australia 🇦🇺
You are not the first i have heard say this. Fellow Aussie.
Great comment, but we're not dealing with huge elevation differences here in Nanny State Australia..and that kit he has does look pretty awesome. Personally, i'd retain the carbies.
100%. Mine runs like a Swiss watch here in California.
My street stock race car runs on a holley 2 barrel carb, once set correctly, no problems all season, and not hard to work on.
So sad so many ppl are afraid of manual machical objects, bitch how ripped off they are on repairs of automatic electronic objects,
@@Dave.S.TT600 Hey nice work bringing your warped political opinions into this car site Dave....what's a matter not enough guns or are you worried about 5 G trackers in your vaccine?
I think the investment in the stock air cleaner is worth it. Will look so clean and stock and still work with the fuel injection. And provide cold air through the scoops right to it. I'd say go for it wizard!
Laser scan it and and you can print replacements or even a buck for a CF one.
Whatever you use as air filter, make sure you keep utilizing the starboard scoop for cold intake air. I do a lot of gravel road driving with one of my 308s and the stock filter works fine, albeit with very regular changes.
@@ILCapo-mo5jj Can you use the other side. Should be less likely to collect dirt from other vehicles
@@Dave5843-d9m yes, David you can. But you would need to swap sides with the oil cooler which is getting the first exposure from the port-side duct flow.
Also, with the stock air cleaner, most people will never notice the carb delete.
It’s so awesome that Stanceworks is helping you out with parts. Those parts being used to keep another car on the road instead of junked is great. His build is epic and it’s going to be fun to see it finished.
A Ferrari part being junked is something I never heard of
@@cencio_1976 Alas it happens. Samcrac has a video from a few weeks back where he got most of a 360 engine for free that had been out side at a shop for years after an LS swap.
Daniel is a fantastic addition to the shop
We need people to start making car parts in the US again.
Nobody could afford them.
Cost is infinite if there's none to be bought (just maths) and a car is stopped because of it.
You couldn't practically enslave people in America like you can in other countries **cough cough ahem** foxconn.... ugh.
@@nathankoroush7918 Yeah, because the tariffs on goods from other countries utilizing slave labor isn't high enough.
Hell naw I can bearly afford chinazones alternators 🤣
I would have had the seats recovered in tan.
I didn’t realize these had only 230 hp. Of course sports cars changed from being sporty to more muscle cars. You don’t need over 500hp to enjoy driving a car.
US emission controls rob lots of horsepower.
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 Its supposed to have 240hp. 15hp difference to euro version (255hp) isnt that bad, I think. Its an old car with a not very large engine after all.
240hp from a 2.9 litre carbureted engine was pretty decent in 1975.
Nuttin wrong with low hp cars but when today's stock 4 bangers can walk him being in a V8 Ferrari, there's a problem.
Own a 2011 Crown Vic ex Police interceptor. I agree that you don't need 500 HP to enjoy and have fun with your car!
I'm always amazed by the number of old Euro cars that have GM parts. I had a 1970 Lotus Europa which was built at the Lotus factory in England (I used to get so annoyed when know-it-all types would call it a kit car). But like all Lotus cars of the day, it was made up of Ford, Renault, GM and multiple other parts. Mine was upgraded to a track car and featured a Renault Gordini cross-flow hemispherical engine with a 5sp tranny. When I sold it in 2006, it still had the original power window motors which were Oldsmobile. I did upgrade the alternator to a GM alternator which was superior to the old Lucas or whatever it was.
pretty sure a toaster would have been superior to a Lucas alternator
The good thing about the down time of waiting for parts is that it gives Mrs. Wizard plenty of time to find the perfect sunglasses to wear while driving HER Ferrari.
Nah, it’s Mr. Wizards Ferrari!😀
'Vintage Ferrari sunglasses' is a good place to begin in that search on the internet. Although, would it be ironic to wear a pair of 'Porsche Design' sunglasses in the Ferrari?
Another good advert for your business. A wise person realises you never stop learning and don't know it all. To admit an employee knows more than you do on a certain subject creates respect and kudos for your shop.
So glad you are doing tasteful modernizations to this beauty. This is my favorite build right now. Exactly how I would do it.
Over 4 years on the Quadrajet carburetor in my 1969 Camaro and I haven't had to touch it. People hate on those but they're really nice once set up properly.
The Car Wizards has the coolest walk on UA-cam! I'd love to see a continuous loop video of him just waddling around on his stubby little legs with Pantera's WALK as the background music!
He’s gonna be quite the grandpa
Hey, my opinion is less electronics the better. Remember the movie, Tom Cruise “ War of the Worlds”? The only thing that ran/runs as a getaway vehicle was Cruise’s ‘66 Mustang with a points system. Ya, I know the running Mustang would probably would not happen in the real World EMP attack.
I like anything that runs but I will say that a carburator is a non worry item if done right. I just pump twice and go for decades. No chip shorts on a Carby. Great day to you Mr. Wizard!
Yeah carburetors on a '80s California smog emission vehicle no fun.
Efi all day long
for a generic quadrajet or holley, you're right. usually set it and forget it. but these italian carbs are NOT set it and forget it. literally every few months they have to be fully re-tuned just to deal with different air density from temperature changes with the weather. or if you go up a mountain pass, it will run terrible. the smartest thing for a car like this, to use as a joyrider, is to swap to fuel injection. it will also have better fuel economy, less emissions, and probably a bit more power.
I learned to love the Holley carb on my boat but only after I got an electronic ignition from D.U.I. Points etc are the cause of most carb issues on old cars and the reason the beltline was lined with cars, hoods up, in the 70s and 80s.
A carburetor, yes. 4 carburetors working in synch, might be a different experience.
The key word there is “a.” As in one. Even multiple Holleys are a nightmare to tune. Webbers are a whole new level of pita.
Hey You Two--- Thank You So Much for keepjn' after this 308. As an ol' feller the 308s, the Dinos & Testarossas have that Unique look. The *Flavor* has been lost in the Newer ones & just Blend into the rest of the Supercars of today. BTW... Ferrari factoid-- Testerossa, "Red Head" in Italian the reason the Valve Covers are Red. Thanks Again
Really happy to see this come to a completion! Really looking forward to seeing you guys take it out onto the road. It has come a long way!
The sound the carbs make on the 308 turns the engine into a complete symphony. Also, the popping of the exhaust after you let off of the throttle gives you the feeling you are handling a wild animal.
Next time Hoovie shows up and needs to pay a big bill , I want to see the Wizard looking up 308 air cleaners boxes on the PC.. Dan is the man! Can't wait to hear the 308 running with EFI !!
Looks like the same fuel pump on my 88 Saab 900 Turbo SPG. That car sat from 1994 to 2010. I drained the fuel and purged the fuel system when I got it. It started right up. It still has the same fuel pump today.
Man I do dig your 308. As a Ferrari man it’s always been one of my favorites.
Glad you were able to get in contact with Stanceworks! Mike is an awesome guy
You could always put the back half on the yacht, like in "One Crazy Summer" from 1986.
CULATER
"What have they got in that thing?"
"My Car!"
It does my heart good to see you working so hard on Mrs. Wizard's car.
Nicely done wizard,however you might want to look at the feeling system pressure,might i caution you to consider two Bosch pumps with a pressure accumulation unit to even out the supply at higher demand levels great work looking forward to seeing the completed Car running.
There are positives to carburetors. One thing is that if you drive a performance vehicle with a stick shift you will realize a huge difference. The first time I experienced it , I did not know what to think. It is called Rev hang. You let off of the accelerator quick to shift and the rpms won't drop quickly and you have to wait for them to come down. Then when you punch the accelerator, there is a lag before the motor reacts.
I was born in 1967. I have been a gear head all of my life. I got to enjoy huge V8 engines in small light cars with even bigger monster engines in mid sized cars of the time period. I drove lots of vehicles with stick shifts in all different forms. The funnest was a VW GTI with a stick. The second was a 74 Monte Carlo hotrod I built. 454 with a Muncie 6 speed. I had to roll the windows down when I opened it up so that they would not shatter when the top pulled away fro. The car at high speed.
Anyway a Holley 750 cfm double pumper was my carb of choice or the Quadra jet copy that Edelbrock put out.
The Holley was my favorite big block fuel feeder. It was very responsive with a stick. To this day a well tuned holley 750 will outperform injection on the dyno on a V8 old school muscle car.
Very cool Wizard giving Daniel the props he deserves. Awesome all the way around👍
Daniel Sahn must be one very sharp/capable technician. They young man will never want for work or decent income with that brain.
you have the front throttle bodies backwards, you want the injectors to spray on the back of the intake valves, not on the intake wall
you should have also used 12 hole injectors for better atomization, you'd get the same power with better fuel economy
and a better crank position sensor holder, the one you have will get loose and eat the sensor
"Today, we're going to be looking at my Ferrari 308..."
(Background) "MY Ferrari!"😂
You guys are crackin' me up! Can't wait for the road trip episode! Thanks, Mr. and Mrs. Wizard!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
Here in India, even motorcycles & scooters have moved on to fuel injection since introduction of BS-VI ( Equivalent to Euro-5) emission norms. One good side effect is mileage has improved even though the new 2-wheelers cost much more than before.
Some of that has to do with increasing prices of steels & plastic, but the BS-VI move & subsequent addition of FI caused price increase of about 8-10K INR ($100-130) in all 2-wheelers.
Now, nobody makes chips in India. And even after a war, and another almost war, we still get chips from China. Hopefully current Govt's PLI(Production Linked Incentive) program will work and we will wean ourselves off Chinese chips!!
The hand brake its from an old Seat/Fiat car, my mother's Seat 127 had the same hand brake. Also you can find the same lever in old Lada cars like the Niva.
My 2005 Fiat Seicento has the same handbrake, they only changed the colour of the plastic handle.
@@cossasomi Most used plastic mold in history hahahaha, its from the 60s, just imagine something so old still in use today in industry.
@@retrodave79 With Fiat everything is possible. At least I can brag that my shitbox has Ferrari parts in it I guess
Great news on the Ferrari, and it's both of yours isn't it?! Mr & Mrs Wizard's special 308!
Can't wait to see you both enjoying it.
Thanks for posting.
I am so happy for both of you. Congratulations!
I love it when Mrs. Wizard calls out “my 308” in the background.
Very exciting to follow your 308! Your fuel injection setup will for sure be flawless. Nevertheless, those Webers were rather sophisticated for its time and don't miss out on fuel injected systems, as much as people's generalizations will make believe. I live in the Alps and drive continuously both on high altitudes and by the coastline, all year around and in all kinds of weather. My carbed Ferraris are obviously lacking a little in altitude flexibility in comparison to my fuel injected Ferraris. But I must insist that it is not by much. Your 308 will put the hook in you. It's a fabulous sports car.
Yep, 308s are pretty nice cars, my friend had a diesel one and it was quite economical. Myself I had the predecessor 307, though with the petrol 2.0 in it.
@@GoldenCroc 😀 go wild my friend! Petrol rules 🏁
@@ILCapo-mo5jj Dont know if you got my joke (wasnt a very good one, I can agree, but I couldnt resist), I was alluding to the fact that "308" also is a popular Peugeot model as were the eariler 307, 306 etc.
@@GoldenCroc but of course I got it 😀🤛🏻
82 cj7 360 AMC. I installed a Quadrajet carb 15 years ago. After Edelbrock and Holly. Once I got it tuned it was awesome, especially offroad.
I think you've lost out on ownership of the 308 Mrs Wizard may well let you drive it occasionally but she is definitely the new owner
she should work on it herself
She just wear them jeans and get anything the Wizard has LOL
@@alexcallas8222 lol they are married bro it's a car for both of them to enjoy. Who cares who's name is on the title.
LoL, I "Used" to own a really nice lifted jeep Wrangler. My wife stole it from me about an hour after we bought it (New) however, I have noticed that as long as I do the work and maintenance on it, she lets me drive it all I want. I do love the look on people's faces when they say "Wow, nice Jeep!" To which I say; "Thanks, it's my wife's.".
On the subject of 308's: I have owned two of them over the years. One was fuel injected and the other wasn't. Both were great driving cars, but the FI car was better on trips, especially in the mountains of Colorado.
Fascinating ! With each step you take, this car gets better than stock. Can not wait.
Such a beautiful car, one of my favorite shapes ever.
I had 4 Webers in my 78 Aston Martin V8 Volante so I agree that they are a pain to keep in tune. I used to keep them a little rich so I didn't have to fool with them as much, sometimes not on purpose as the floats would get pinhole leaks. It is not cool to drive a nice car that smells like gasoline or is hard to start or stumbles when the weather changes.
I'm with you, Wizard. You can get great results from carburetors, but they need to be adjusted constantly to get there and stay there. EFI is much nicer in that respect.
Weber carbs set up right stay right. But it's a real art and takes a good ear.
Seats do look better than new. OEM 308 leather was pretty thin.
It’s the difference between having an automatic coffe maker and grinder, vs grinding it yourself and poring it yourself. One takes more work, but also has more soul and give you a greater connection to the process (driving).
4:00 one thing about radios etc in vehicles. You don't need an indash radio or gps or anything anymore....all you need is a small amplifier hidden away somewhere and an audio in jack from your phone and a phone mount. Your phone has everything that radio has and more.
To eliminate the "turn on" function of the amp/radio you just put an on/off switch to the turn on wire so when you want to listen to the radio, you just flip that switch. Now some amps are sensitive to a higher amperage higher voltage 12V turn on, some "thump" when you flip the switch, you can do that with a step down resister soldered into the turn on wire.
Once you eliminate the radio, you can make a nice cover plate for that area and attach your phone mount to it so it's nice and handy when you're driving.
I liked the decision to convert into Fuel injection, excited to hear an before and after.... 😊
Get a 3800 swapped Fiero, nicely done. 1/2 the money & twice the car. Toss in reliable.
@@wymple09 Torsional rigidity? Never heard of it
@@sav22rem22 I will assume you are kidding, or not very bright.
@@wymple09 It’s no secret that Fieros have the torsional rigidity of a wet noodle. You can jack them up on a corner and the doors won’t open. You must not be very bright if you think I’m kidding that an 80s GM car was flimsy
@@sav22rem22 I have an 86 GT with a 3800 swap, and you are full of it. The whole car is a damn space frame and it's among the best performers in history in crash tests. These things are raced against Miatas & such which you don't do with any kind of "noodle". Educate yourself before saying such ridiculous things. I suppose you still think they all caught fire as well.
I am familar with these cars, the 308 GTB/GTS is one of my favorites. I agree with everything you are doing on it. It will make it much more livable on a daily basis. Can't wait to see how the injection turns out.
Wizard with the performance mods. Love it! Kudos to Danielsan! BTW, you had that seat mounted for your size, right? Mrs. Wizard won't be able to reach the pedals. Tricky.
I don't blame you for doing this...sat behind a Magnum pi style Ferrari a few years back I a queue of traffic in a small town high street in the UK.
Even though it was warm, even talking to my partner sat next to me...in the car...was difficult. Gawd only knows what it musve sounded like in the street!
I wonder what Donnie Callaway would do with this car. I feel like electromotive just isn’t the way. Haltechs aren’t hard to get right now and they work amazing.
Vintage engine management to add another layer of nostalgia to the build. Can't wait to hear it on a dyno.
I don't/can't have a problem with you making the Chevrolet of Ferrari's (they made so many 308's) dependable it's a testament to American ingenuity and engineering expertise & your incredible wisdom YOU ARE TRULY A WIZARD
I like how Mr and Mrs Wizard are fighting over whose car it is!
no fight, It's hers if he ever wants sex or peace again.
It smells difine in my car lol
Iirc the seat is permanently bolted in place for Wizard's height so will Mrs. Wizard even be able to reach the clutch?
@@pdennis93 she's 5--10 so it should be ok
Ah, they will Drive it togerher Most of the times, Nobody will be legt behind....
These Weber carbs offer high flow meaning low depression across the carb. This also means these type carbs are very sensitive to any changes in fuel character, air pressure, and air temperature. On the other hand, carbs which have more pressure drop across the carb have more feedback which means much more stable operation across variations in the above mentioned parameters. This is a choice between the possibility of the very highest performance and a bit less performance with much more stable carb operation. If one wants more stable operation from a Weber carb use smaller throat inserts which will provide more feedback and more stable performance across the above variations.
Hey Wizard & Mrs Wizard, I love your emotional support animal for the 308!!! The biggest question of a generation is, is the 308 The Wizards car or is it Mrs Wizards car??? I vote for joint custody!!! 👍👍😁
If it's acquired during marriage it's community property. Ask me how I know.
Wizard! THANKS FOR SUPPORTING MY BUSINESS WITH THE DUAL STEREO PURCHASE!!!! Yes, I am the buyer for "that" company.
Thanks!. Im sure it'll do great!
I hope Wizard does a road trip video and see how well it performs.
Wizard. I had the same Dual HU in my Corolla. It didn't transfer power to the speakers correctly, something with channel distribution and wouldn't power down correctly. Went with a Pioneer that is also shallow fitment. Way better sounding and works like it should!
Great update! Did you have to put in O2 sensors in that nice exhaust? Where did you install those?
The chip shortage is caused by the motor industry demanding obsolete chips that chip fabs no longer want to make at rock bottom prices. The problem won’t go away until the industry wakes up and gets with current technology at reasonable costs to the chip fabs.
i havent been able to buy the exhaust manifolds for my 06 mustang gt either lmao, would never have thought id have so much trouble
Really? Doesn’t it use the same exhaust manifolds as other Ford vehicles with the 4.6L V8 or does it use its own?
@@PseudoSpaceMarine if it uses the same manifolds when stock then yea because mine are stock, but idk
Been saving and getting dti in line for 5 years to buy a house and here we are... I feel you wizard. Sucks to make the right decisions and have crap timing!!!
Back in 1992 I had what turned out to be my only chance at a Ferrari I could actually afford. It was a 308 for 25k. Took the wife to see it. She was not amused and said no. Probably the best thing that ever happened. I have given up on my dream, and it's ok.
I think most guys would have found it cheaper to keep the Ferrari and get rid of the wife... 😁
You and your wife crack me up! :) Nice project! Can't wait to see it running.
If Wizard gets anymore cars, I’m going to need to see Jay Leno as a guest for car talk from time to time.
We need the Wizard and Jay together!
Dave a quick lesson from the Meister of Carbs Mr Iain Tyrrell and his Classic Car workshop. All done by screwdriver hose pipe and ear.
A Dual head unit in a Ferrari. You need to contact Dual and ask for some sponsorship with that endorsement LOL.
That interior looks absolutely stellar. Please give my regards to them, they did an amazing job as always!
Although there is a time and a place for carburetor, daily drivers of younger people aren't the time or place, fuel injection all the way 👍
"salient point."
I love carburetors, I've put SU carbs on an injected z-car because it was cheaper and simpler in my case to do so over refurbishing the efi system. I enjoyed tuning and balancing them, I give them a check over every few months, usually they don't need touching, and I believe the power and drivability difference is negligible over the efi it had. Too each their own, but I would've perservered with the Webers on that car just for the induction noise alone.
4:33 No holes, except for 2 weirdly positioned screws.
This is such a beautiful car!! Can't wait to see a full cut and polish on that red paint.
Wizard is humble enough to know that Daniel will be teaching HIM some things about the 308! He is too tall to be comfortable in the 308, while Mrs Wizard is the ideal height for the 308!
Quiet fuel pump, I do agree about the sound... Was almost instant regret when I changed mine, but you learn to live with the new noise I guess... but I won't do that again...
Oh am I really first 👀
Glad to see you here
Good morning
Eric O!! Our kitty is named Luna too
Wizard I did this on my Searay ski boat. It was carbureted and it was a great decision. It woke the engine up, and made it 3000% more reliable.
Sooooo, who's car IS it??? (they''ll be arguing about this until time stops)
There’s something about your uploads that are extremely watchable but also easy to comprehend for a novice like me. Great upload Wizard! Also your beard is majestic.
Never argue ownership with your wife unless you like to lose.
Glad to see this project coming along! I'm excited to see it on the road and hear the beautiful sound of this Ferrari engine.
The interior has come up amazing. It really looks superb. Your guy does really good work.
What do you mean what is going on, it’s simple supply and demand, demand is high in supply is low. To make things worse supply is low mostly due to global shortage because of factory shut downs for almost a year in some countries. The shortage is not just apply to this country, it’s globally.
I've tuned cars with dual carbs before, and that was *REALLY* difficult. I simply cannot imagine tuning *FOUR* of them -- particularly on a machine as finicky as a 1970s Ferrari.
You can always put it back to stock, too -- those TBI units bolt right up to where the carbs go, and it's really easy to switch back to the original fuel-pump. So the folks who are absolute sticklers for "originality" shouldn't be upset.
You’re lucky on so many levels. Everything is slowly coming to fruition and looking good. Thanks for the update.
The interesting thing about the component shortage (it isn't just chips) is that one part might be out of stock with no more for 12+ months while another is available that is slightly different. The difference might just be what sort of package it is in. So companies that can quickly redesign products to use a slightly different chip can continue production. Of course, as soon as they do that, the other chip variant will be out of stock...
We're having to buy enough parts to last us 12-18 months now. Otherwise there is no point doing the design if we won't be able to make it when it's finished. Of course that doesn't help supplier stock levels but you gotta do what you gotta do. I bet everyone else is doing the same thing.
Thanks for being responsive to your UA-cam followers, Wizard!
agreed on the loud fuel pumps. They do work, but you can buy better if you want quiet.
I own an online auction company and we have a Ferrari 308 that will be selling soon, so I found this video very knowledgeable considering I know very little about Ferrari’s in general…. Thanks!
Daniel-San is a cool guy, as always. Nice to see him again. Seems that he's getting more relaxed on camera too!
You wouldn't get me on camera on UA-cam..
Manual (or "stick shift" as you call it) is more fun to drive, makes one feel really involved and gives more control, unfortunately I had to switch to automatic due to health issues (damaged spinal cord, thus my legs sometimes give up). But besides fun part and adverse conditions like mud, snow and ice, automatic has it's advantages too - continuous transfer of torque, ensuring faster acceleration, and convenience.
That 308 is looking great! Never leave it stock. Improve where the factory dropped the ball. Matt.
While I beleve people should do what they like with their cars, the seats are rather unfortunate and your guys should've sourced genuine Connoly leather. That beautiful waxy leather is a huge part of the Ferrari experience.
Heck, my mom had to go out and buy a whole new car because her ABS module went out the other day on her Prius and the shop didn’t feel good about any of the salvage parts that were available (and on brakes, I don’t blame them). A new ABS controller was going to be a few grand and take at least a 2-3 months to get. We’re not talking about anything exotic either, she drove a 2010 Prius.
Dependably functional is much better than being stock and needing to constantly work on it. Good job.
Great that you have a good team and good connections to suppliers and other channels. Interesting to see you modify this to be more non-stock since it's not usually your MO. And of course Bosch parts work on it, everybody uses those 😁 The interior looks so much better now.
This is a really cool build, I look forward to seeing the outcome. Really cool that stanceworks is helping out with it as well.
You're gonna need 2" velo stacks inside the air box to actually get that extra HP out of those ITBs. That also requires extra height to the box, so OEM box is basically pointless. Just fab a new box out of alu sheet and paint it black. The original box was too small anyways, resulting said carburator issues. Also, your wiring harness is toasted. The main power lines have cooked insulators, and will burst into flames when powered back up.
Not sure I’m surprised but happy to see you and mike at stanceworks doing something together. I feel like the channels focus is miles apart but still both great to watch.
I was hoping you would do a WCFB carb conversion, but I'm a gross old man. Nice to see the old girl come together, with some expert help. Great community you have there.
Good call on ditching the carbs, nobody wants to mess with those. Will be fun to see the 308 on the road 😎.
I understand you (kind of), but I have years ago adjusted carburettors on hundreds of Ferrari's and Lamborghini's and adjusting these is an art and also to me nostalgic. You have to synch them once or twice a year but thats it. I am aware of that there are not many of us left who really can adjust these carbs (many claim they can but it is all lip service). Many can do laptop injection so in that respect you are probably better of with injection. However you do not get the authentic old Webber sound. 😏
Love the way this ferarri came along since it was in cartrek, it’s for sure done right but then again wouldn’t expect it not to be with the wizard 🔥