DESTROYING Some AMD GPUs With Portal RTX...

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2022
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  • @cesarand02
    @cesarand02 Рік тому +1234

    We went from “But can it run Crysis?” To “But can it run Cyberpunk?” To “But can it run Portal?”
    Gotta love it.

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 Рік тому +474

    Fraps? Now there's a name I've not heard in a long time.
    Also, the RX 6600 trying to render Chell's wake up sequence is exactly how me waking up hung over feels like.

    • @ShockingPikachu
      @ShockingPikachu Рік тому +13

      I belly laughed as I witnessed the card I have show it's performance. Ray tracing is very funny with the 6600 lmao

    • @BeersAndBeatsPDX
      @BeersAndBeatsPDX Рік тому +20

      Give it a few years. That's how I wake up every day.

    • @el_dallasyt
      @el_dallasyt Рік тому +1

      Fraps exists since mid 2000s

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Рік тому +15

      Haha!! Yeah, Fraps is nice and old school.

    • @yeti4269
      @yeti4269 Рік тому +4

      @@el_dallasyt Well yeah, they were saying they haven't heard someone mention it in a while.

  • @KimBoKastekniv47
    @KimBoKastekniv47 Рік тому +518

    Portal RTX is an ad for a 4080/4090.

    • @sammer28
      @sammer28 Рік тому +52

      Spend $1600 (if you are lucky) to get 45 FPS!

    • @user-lk7cv8vg7r
      @user-lk7cv8vg7r Рік тому +27

      @@sammer28 I get ~50 on my 1440p Ultrawide on my 3070. Don't know what you're talking about.

    • @Kleinshooti
      @Kleinshooti Рік тому +1

      H100 with display output or L40: Pathetic.

    • @E55666
      @E55666 Рік тому +16

      @@user-lk7cv8vg7r 50 is still not playable

    • @user-lk7cv8vg7r
      @user-lk7cv8vg7r Рік тому +21

      @@E55666Zoomer. I remember when 19FPS was the norm. Besides I got freesync on. It's indistinguishable.

  • @sovelissfiremane
    @sovelissfiremane Рік тому +405

    Portal RTX is basically Nvidia trying to say to people "hey, your 30-series card is out of date and you should totally upgrade!"

    • @aleksazunjic9672
      @aleksazunjic9672 Рік тому

      Marketing gimmick. Bet they purposely crippled AMD performance .

    • @badhusband1902
      @badhusband1902 Рік тому +44

      also nv: amd is trash look how bad radeon gpus are at games and don't put fsr in the mod

    • @IanC14
      @IanC14 Рік тому +7

      *cries in 1660 ti"

    • @jamezxh
      @jamezxh Рік тому +31

      Run rtx portal on a 6000 series card,exit then run a port royal benchmark. Restart the machine then run port Royal again and look at the score. I suspect there is some Nvidia nerfing going on with Amd cards.

    • @ABaumstumpf
      @ABaumstumpf Рік тому +10

      "Remix" is the first Beta-release of a full mod-plugin that you can just throw into many of the older games and completely replace the rendering-path.
      Right now it trashes Radeon-cards cause it uses physical based textures for raytracing - and AMD is already using the texture-units for the ray calculations. Because of this they can NOT do textures and rays at the same time - hence any engine that uses textures to influence the raytracing will tank horribly and Radeon.

  • @ironeleven
    @ironeleven Рік тому +207

    NVIDIA: "Look, we made a 15 year old game run like ass!"

    • @simonhoel2704
      @simonhoel2704 Рік тому +15

      meanwhile doom eternal woth ray tracing gets well over 100 fps with the 6700xt

    • @Rockito912
      @Rockito912 7 місяців тому +3

      @@simonhoel2704 Path Tracing =/= Ray Tracing. Completely different levels of tech. The path tracing is still a technology preview mostly. It is used in games like this mostly for fun and for showcase what the future holds.

    • @OmnianMIU
      @OmnianMIU 4 місяці тому

      Path tracing ignorant

    • @jaytay420
      @jaytay420 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah but they also made it look like something AMD can only dream to achieve at the moment. A fully real time path traced game.

  • @BjornsTIR
    @BjornsTIR Рік тому +75

    And that's why it's called Portal with RTX and not Portal with RT

    • @AlucardArkaine
      @AlucardArkaine Рік тому +37

      It's basically made to run specifically on Nvidia cards.
      Same deal with Tesselation and Crysis back in the day.

    • @rossclutterbuck1060
      @rossclutterbuck1060 Рік тому +27

      @@AlucardArkaine more than that, it's made to run specifically with RTX 4000 cards, hence why even the 3080 Ti is running like ass.

    • @BjornsTIR
      @BjornsTIR Рік тому +1

      @@AlucardArkaine YEP

    • @BjornsTIR
      @BjornsTIR Рік тому +2

      @@rossclutterbuck1060 Indeed. Though that might also be due to the increase in pure RT performance with the 40 series.

    • @AlucardArkaine
      @AlucardArkaine Рік тому +6

      @@rossclutterbuck1060 To be fair, I wouldn't call that performance ass, just not great.
      But yeah, much like tesselation, it jas been made to sell their cards.
      Although, apparently, Unreal Engine 5s RT performance is much better than RTX.

  • @themars2011
    @themars2011 Рік тому +86

    This "game" is purposely not utilizing AMD Ray Accelerators, I'm 99% sure. Power usage is way too low on my AMD GPU (6950 XT Red Devil). Cyberpunk w/ RT ~320 Watts. Portal RTX: ~260 Watts, despite 99% usage in both titles. My GPU can run RT in Cyberpunk just fine (1080p with FSR Quality is actually playable with over 60 FPS), same for Quake 2 RTX, which runs really good at 1080p native. Every title that utilizes RT pushes my GPU to 320 Watts, just not Portal RTX, despite being RT only, wonder why....

    • @bhaveshsonar7558
      @bhaveshsonar7558 Рік тому +2

      Yep bro

    • @med3099
      @med3099 Рік тому +2

      Yeah that’s the culprit

    • @nikolakarovic5964
      @nikolakarovic5964 Рік тому +26

      Cos its Nvidia sponsored.

    • @1337dingus
      @1337dingus Рік тому +27

      Someone actually dug into performance profiling on AMD and found this exact thing, portal rtx behaves VERY differently from most other RT games and absolutely does not use AMDs accelerators properly

    • @Axeiaa
      @Axeiaa Рік тому +26

      Very likely as these types of NVIDIA experiments usually only serve one purpose - to make their cards look good. Usually achieved by making the competition look bad, by either doing useless things, specifically targeting features they know the competition is bad at, or kneecapping performance on the 'competitors' platform by doing things the most inefficient way - or a combination of these. From the top of my head.
      NVIDIA bought PhysX and basically made it useless so PhysX games ran great on NVIDIA hardware and NVIDIA only. People discovered ways around it which NVIDIA initially had claimed weren't possible which they then proceeded to patch out.
      Then there was Crysis tessellating areas under the ground that you couldn't even see and some objects to stupid amounts crippling performance - even on NVIDIA but more so on AMD cards so NVIDIA looked better on paper
      Then there was The Witcher 3 hairworks where something that added very little visually absolutely destroyed performance once again. More so on AMDs side so than NVIDIAs so it was terrible for everyone but in particular for those with an AMD card. Slowly got remedied by patches and driver versions.
      Now they're releasing an onslaught of old games adding raytracing using NVIDIAs black magic which hampers performance on AMD more than it needs to do to make NVIDIAs own products look good.
      If they spend as much as time and resources on actually improving their products as they do on trying to make the competition look worse than it is then perhaps there wouldn't be a need for it in the first place. They already got superior ray tracing support - just be happy with that. Don't try to stack the deck in your favor when you already got a winning hand.

  • @PvrpleGames
    @PvrpleGames Рік тому +123

    on any game running on the source engine (most valve games) you can enable the developer console in settings and type net_graph 1 to get a performance overlay

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Рік тому +29

      Great comment! Thanks for the info. 😃

    • @Kagewing
      @Kagewing Рік тому +6

      True, net_graph 1 to 8 on older source branchs is only to 4 these will show more details, ex: 1 is basic info 4 or 8 more details

  • @DiscBurner
    @DiscBurner Рік тому +210

    2007: Can it run Crysis?
    2022: Can it run Portal RTX?

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 Рік тому +1

      its nvidia game from top to bottom, no surprice.

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 Рік тому

      its nvidia game from top to bottom, no surprice.

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 Рік тому

      its nvidia game from top to bottom, no surprice.

    • @bryzeer5075
      @bryzeer5075 Рік тому

      @vmafarah9473 Well, pathtracing requires the best, so....

    • @retrofizz727
      @retrofizz727 Рік тому +2

      @@bryzeer5075 well thing is, the game is optimized for nvidia cards, and fsr isn't even available sooo no wonder you get such bad results

  • @JKidk_
    @JKidk_ Рік тому +196

    "Clean windows are the path tracing raid boss" - Well, yes. They are.

  • @HussainJaved17
    @HussainJaved17 Рік тому +228

    I swear Dawid's Linode sponsors would never get old

    • @envirovore
      @envirovore Рік тому +7

      I was just about to say that while most sponsor spots in most videos are just sorta 'meh', I appreciate that Dawid's are always entertaining in some way.

    • @HussainJaved17
      @HussainJaved17 Рік тому +2

      @@envirovore True!

    • @djpickle68
      @djpickle68 Рік тому +1

      Linod should have Dawid do all their advertising

    • @lolnogamerhere
      @lolnogamerhere Рік тому

      LINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE

  • @zhon5311
    @zhon5311 Рік тому +447

    Dawid is underrated.

    • @brendameistar
      @brendameistar Рік тому +16

      Nah. He's overrated.

    • @Aron25746
      @Aron25746 Рік тому +35

      My man is awesome, should definitely have more subscribers. But as many say, slow success is better than fast success.

    • @brendameistar
      @brendameistar Рік тому +8

      @@Aron25746 some fkin idiots will say "you need to have your own netflix show!" - annoyance aside.
      Dawid will get more subscribers as time goes on. Quality stuffs and always entertaining.
      I dont even watch major tech tubers anymore like Linus.
      GN used to be entertaining but now they are super informative which is great.
      HUB is on has quality benchmarks and great attention to details, I would rate them on the same level of GN

    • @rriot
      @rriot Рік тому +13

      bro has 500k subs, wym underrated

    • @zhon5311
      @zhon5311 Рік тому

      @@rriot should be a mil

  • @hoguejp
    @hoguejp Рік тому +60

    This takes me back to the 90's with such variance in cards and new effects.

    • @ole-martinbroz8590
      @ole-martinbroz8590 Рік тому +15

      there isn't any effects that cause this variance, the gpu is mostly idle when you check profiling.
      Thanks nvidia, just spam registers till it breaks on anything but your driver.

    • @Unirule
      @Unirule Рік тому

      Ah cool, we're regressing.

  • @MiisterShane
    @MiisterShane Рік тому +70

    I'm pretty indifferent towards Linux-based cloud computing and web hosting services but I love a good Dawid & Linode sponsor spot.

  • @Michael7R
    @Michael7R Рік тому +46

    I knew things were gonna go poorly with the 6600 when I remembered I tried to "run" Minecraft RTX with mine

    • @prescotthancock5907
      @prescotthancock5907 Рік тому

      lmfao. Ballsy move there

    • @dracopug
      @dracopug Рік тому +7

      I barely kept 30 FPS with the RX 6800 at 1080p

    • @Michael7R
      @Michael7R Рік тому +6

      @@dracopug I was getting what felt like 10-15 fps, not terrible all things considered. Not bad for screenshots

    • @ShockingPikachu
      @ShockingPikachu Рік тому +29

      It's the frame times that kill Minecraft RTX... But I also have a suspicion that a lot of the issues with Minecraft RTX stems from it being developed for NVIDIA and no thought is put into AMD implementation for obvious reasons. Ray tracing on games that favour AMD cards work just fine such as Forza horizon 5

    • @KingVulpes
      @KingVulpes Рік тому +1

      I get 30fps on my rx 6600xt at 1080p in Minecraft rtx

  • @themomaw
    @themomaw Рік тому +6

    So basically: Portal RT is badly optimized. AMD's raytracing is worse than Nvidia's but it's not an order of magnitude worse.

  • @banks3388
    @banks3388 Рік тому +8

    I wonder why Ray tracing hasn't caught on? It's almost as if overpriced GPUs which struggle to get 60FPS at 1080p and literally catch on fire (I'm specifically looking at you Nvidia) for gimmicky visuals that are primarily used for obnoxious lens flares aren't all that appealing when I can just not have Ray tracing and game at 4K with a frame-rate to make console players shit bricks.
    Also just wanna point out that this entire vid felt like a paid advertisement for Nvidia, so here are some key points as to why that company isn't good:
    1. They refused to allow open source drivers for ages which means Linux support is non-existent even now
    2. The only reason they went opensource was because their security was so lax that a few butthurt script-kiddies were able to jack their insider information and blackmail them into going opensource
    3. They gaslit 4090 early access users (think tech tubers) over the whole melting power cables thing and tried to hush it all up until it went viral, Radeon just straight up said they knew it was going to be an issue and that's why their not using cost cutting measures on their cables connections

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo Рік тому +2

      meanwhile fortnite with nanite and lumen, both of which are much more interesting techs put on a much more modern game, runs at 60fps on a xbox series s which is basically a zen 2 ryzen with a gpu that's much slower than any of the ones tested here

    • @claudio7010
      @claudio7010 Рік тому +3

      just wanted to say that ray tracing is not just for the reflections, it's for the whole global illumination, and it won't necessarily make the game look better but give the devs an easier time, instead of having to use rasterization. But the tech just isn't there yet. Kind of like when tessellation was seen as something useless and gimmicky. And this game was clearly made just for nvidia gpus, intentionally throttling anything else

    • @banks3388
      @banks3388 Рік тому +1

      @@claudio7010 I'm yet to see one actual AAA (non-gimmick) game do what you've just said...
      The majority of them are just using ray tracing as a gimmick to throw out "realistic" lens flares or nothing more than tech demos of what "the future could hold". The difference tho with tessellation is that GPUs didn't suddenly become massive space heaters that caught on fire the moment the tech started being introduced and you certainly didn't have a situation where it was more or less being used as an excuse push GPUs into early-obsolescence for minimal overall gains to the user base. We live in the day where console own the market, I don't think we're getting a new PS6 or xbox anytime soon so your GPUs aren't going to be good for anything accept "enhancements" and tech demos for a while.

    • @claudio7010
      @claudio7010 Рік тому +1

      @@banks3388 as I said, the tech just isn't there yet. The "rtx on" bullshit that's going on right now should not be a thing. The gpus aren't capable of real time ray tracing without heavy denoising and performance loss. Don't get me wrong, it's still amazing, but I am not spending 1000+ euros for a sub60fps 1440p experience. In my opinion, ray tracing will eventually just be an easier implementation of a global illumination

  • @djsnowpdx
    @djsnowpdx Рік тому +25

    Way ahead of you! I happened to “upgrade” from a 5700 XT, a GPU with no ray tracing support, to a 6650 XT, a GPU with the same performance and 6600-like ray tracing support, just days before this game came out. When it did, I noticed the game engine just chugging hard at 1080p, and sounds repeating themselves four times because that’s how slow it ran. Then, I dropped to minimum settings at 480x640 and achieved 21 FPS average. It looked like garbage. Fortunately for me, as this video alludes, the original portal is easy to run and looks great, and all my other games also run well on that little card.

    • @acousticeel9695
      @acousticeel9695 Рік тому +1

      I’m in the same boat. Watching my poor 6600 xt get massacred was entertaining but it no where near justifies switching it out for just one Fancy Portal Experience.

    • @MrGermanletsplayerxD
      @MrGermanletsplayerxD Рік тому +4

      @@acousticeel9695 same with my 6950xt. It's an really awesome card but seeing the RT performance, makes me think that I made the right decision because who really needs rt I like to play my games without it

    • @Mr.Genesis
      @Mr.Genesis Рік тому +13

      Raytracing is a garbage gimmick that people pay $150+ per GPU for.. its not in 99% of games

    • @babyhandsthegreat
      @babyhandsthegreat Рік тому +8

      Portal RTX favors Nvidia GPUs so don't feel too bad.

    • @MrGermanletsplayerxD
      @MrGermanletsplayerxD Рік тому

      @@babyhandsthegreat yeah the path tracing is something you need a 40 series gpu for dlss 3

  • @Braincrawler
    @Braincrawler Рік тому +8

    Portal RTX is really optimized for Nvidia cards... even with my Asus RTX 2060 and my AMD Phenom II X6 1090T it runs with > 30 fps all the time. So to me it looks like the game recognizes: "You are having a AMD graphics card? F*** off!" 😛

    • @Spacefish007
      @Spacefish007 Рік тому

      What a config, a Phenom II with an 2060, srsly get a CPU upgrade, even the cheapest Zen 2 for ~70$ is miles ahead of that old bulldozer CPU.

    • @yareyare9744
      @yareyare9744 Рік тому

      its a miracle portal is even running on your system

    • @agrisimfarming
      @agrisimfarming Рік тому

      Why in the world are you pairing a 2060 with a 14 year old CPU?!? Your processor is probably easily outpaced by a Chromebook at this point!

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen 4 місяці тому

      AMD Phenom II X6 1090T? Wow! I thought I was running an old CPU when I still use 3570k (around year 2012). According to userbenchmark, even 3570k is 20-50% faster CPU and I've paired it with 1060 with 3 GB VRAM so we are talking about pretty cheap hardware here.

  • @yeetus076
    @yeetus076 Рік тому +5

    For the ones who didnt got the joke at 6:27, he closed portal rtx and started the old normal portal

  • @milimnava2111
    @milimnava2111 Рік тому +91

    They need to implement FSR 2.0, it would be a shame if they skip on this….
    I bought a 7900XTX, and I'm curious if this behemoth can run the game with more than 9fps xD

    • @urmensch12
      @urmensch12 Рік тому +95

      Since Portal Rtx was made atleast by Nvidia Developers i would not surprised if it will never get FSR just out spite.

    • @JaimeIsJaime
      @JaimeIsJaime Рік тому +6

      how is rdna 3 doing in this game? so far nobody has uploaded a video about that

    • @Mammuth83
      @Mammuth83 Рік тому +6

      It's not gonna look really nice but there is always the option to use RSR...
      I had a pretty positive experience with RSR. I played the entire Jedi Fallen Order with it.

    • @confide3734
      @confide3734 Рік тому +4

      It was funny they said 2x the raytracing performance of last gen, and 2x15 is only 30 which can't be playable for people using high end cards often lol. You're so lucky to get an XTX I had been searching and refreshing the pages since launch and to no avail still

    • @milimnava2111
      @milimnava2111 Рік тому

      @@confide3734 maybe i had luck getting one, but it has not arrived yet...i guess the availability depends on the country you live in.

  • @thepunic5261
    @thepunic5261 Рік тому +29

    I love nvidia and its marketing schemes where it releases an overblown "game" to sell its horrible cards. the game just runs horribly bad on anything but nvidia cards, i mean the game doesn't even launch on intel which have a better rt hardware than their nvidia counter part (3060), its really really shameful yet again from nvidia.

    • @nesyboi9421
      @nesyboi9421 Рік тому +2

      Yeah I was really excited to use my RX6600 on something that actually had Ray tracing, but I launch up the game and it just doesn't work, I only got it working if I had the resolution set to below 480p, and even then the Ray Tracing was still broken

    • @themars2011
      @themars2011 Рік тому +10

      @@nesyboi9421 Don't be mad at AMD for that, I am 99% sure that Nvidia made this run awful on AMD GPUs on porpose. Check your power usage with Portal RTX and other titles that utilize RT. You'll probably see lower power usage on Portal RTX

    • @nesyboi9421
      @nesyboi9421 Рік тому +7

      @@themars2011 I'm not mad, I'm pissed at Nvidia for this stupid marketing ploy trying to get people to buy 40 series cards

    • @ShockingPikachu
      @ShockingPikachu Рік тому +3

      @@nesyboi9421 I turn ray tracing on on Forza Horizon 5 and it works fine with my RX 6600, minecraft RTX is very funny and gets 40 fps. MSFS it adds immersion with the fan noise it makes xD IT TRIES.
      But yeah, even this NVIDIA focused version of portal was made with DLSS to be turned on... even the 4090 struggles to maintain 60 with it off (or maybe even with it on)

    • @thepunic5261
      @thepunic5261 Рік тому +1

      @@nesyboi9421 nothing wrong with amd hardware, the 6800xt have 3070 level of performance on heavy ray traced "neutral" games hell even in sponsored titles like metro and control, but somehow nvidia intentionally made everybody else absolete with portal, hell they even made their old cards absolete with the new witcher 3 update and we all know CDPR have a deep relationship with nvidia, unless ofc you turn on the sweet fake frames to push for more than 60fps.

  • @wertywerrtyson5529
    @wertywerrtyson5529 Рік тому +2

    I’ve always used FRAPS. I didn’t even realised it had not been updated in a decade until recently. Still works though.

  • @TheSektor13
    @TheSektor13 Рік тому +2

    There was one big mistake i noticed. That was not a companion cube, it is ordinary aperture laboratory cube.
    Companion cube has pink hearts.

  • @lucahategan
    @lucahategan Рік тому +10

    that sponsor part thingy was all i needed to make my day.
    please tell us how you come up with these ideas?

  • @randomdesign6304
    @randomdesign6304 Рік тому +5

    DLSS 3 is implemented in the game. Because it's a 30 series it's still there but only showing you the DLSS 2 options (Super Resolution and Reflex).

  • @joeallan3706
    @joeallan3706 Рік тому +1

    Merry Christmas (or what other holidays you celebrate) Dawid and Co! Whenever I see an alert for one of your videos it always puts a smile on my face, I have been going through some hard times over the last year(s) but i can always count on your videos to cheer me up!

  • @abhijeetsinghchauhan34
    @abhijeetsinghchauhan34 Рік тому +4

    "Me looking at my ryzen apu laptop"
    *Laptop running away*

  • @swirrllfolfsky9803
    @swirrllfolfsky9803 Рік тому +3

    Radeon software overlay works well. Also, Radeon software gives you a bit more control when overclocking. For some reason, afterburner can't access the full features of the gpu

  • @EcksGamer
    @EcksGamer Рік тому +8

    DLSS 3.0 as they explained is backwards compatible with DLSS 2.x which is why you're able to enable it to begin with.

    • @beanos2287
      @beanos2287 Рік тому +3

      yeah, but they don't permit you to use it unless you purchase or own a 4000 series GPU. Really scummy.

    • @babyhandsthegreat
      @babyhandsthegreat Рік тому

      @Beanos Someone got it to run on a RTX 2070 super on CyberBug 2077

    • @beanos2287
      @beanos2287 Рік тому

      @@babyhandsthegreat yeah, but it isn't supported by Nvidia.

    • @babyhandsthegreat
      @babyhandsthegreat Рік тому +1

      @Beanos there's no reason as to why they don't support it... Nvidia loves money and 40 series cards are a cash grab.

    • @beanos2287
      @beanos2287 Рік тому

      @@babyhandsthegreat yep, no real performance per dollar improvement whatsoever. Performance per dollar is around the same as the 3080 or 3080ti.

  • @M4ST3Rof4LL
    @M4ST3Rof4LL Рік тому

    @Dawid Does Tech Stuff, you can also go into settings -> keyboard -> advanced -> enable developer console
    then hit the "~" tilde key.
    type net_graph 1 (or net_graph 2 or 3) to display framerate and package deliveries. Very accurate and built into all source based games.

  • @setcheck67
    @setcheck67 Рік тому +5

    I finally tried out Linode and it's way more user friendly then I thought. I regret setting up docker when I could of used this the whole time.

  • @freedomofmotion
    @freedomofmotion Рік тому +3

    This is just like the tesselation debacle from a few years back. Anyone remember crysis 2?
    Left a whole tesselated Ocean running under the map so it wouldn't run on AMD

  • @jt3000o
    @jt3000o Рік тому +3

    Did you uninstall the Nvidia driver before you put the AMD card in lol

  • @AgentTex13
    @AgentTex13 Рік тому +2

    Now I need to see how the 7900xtx handles the Spitroaster 9000

  • @tae_mx
    @tae_mx Рік тому +2

    I think it's quite interesting that the only game that can wholeheartedly take advantage of a 4090 is from 2011 and can be completed in less than an hour, oh and it was remastered by the company that makes the 4090...

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 Рік тому +2

      From 2011? Portal came out in 2007. There are also other path tracing games too. Unless you’re talking about a different game

    • @tae_mx
      @tae_mx Рік тому +2

      @@crestofhonor2349 I got confused with Portal 2's release date.

  • @Indull
    @Indull Рік тому +10

    you should try it with an Arc GPU since it seemed reasonably okay at rtx previously!

  • @railgunduck
    @railgunduck Рік тому +7

    I'm not sure, but i think performance might have been impacted by you leaving "super-resolution" on, despite no downscaling method working, might get some 4 or more fps from that.

    • @janickpauwels3792
      @janickpauwels3792 Рік тому +3

      And he left motion blur on (was off on the nvidia card) which explains the "smearing".

  • @bobgrimes8618
    @bobgrimes8618 Рік тому +2

    I am quite happy with my 1660 Super, as I only play old city buider games, ie, Caesar 3, Morrowind(OpenMW), and Panzer General(through DOSBOX).

  • @kmemz
    @kmemz Рік тому +3

    You can set DLSS 3.0 to "custom" and that lets you set the type of DLSS to NIS, which should work on AMD.

  • @demofighter
    @demofighter Рік тому +3

    This is nuts. I ran Portal 1 for the first time on my Radeon HD 6850 and comfortably ran at over 60fps.

  • @Rockport1911
    @Rockport1911 Рік тому +17

    Looks great, and at 1440 or HD you can look at every rendered picture very closely :)
    Next RTX overhaul should be with CSGO, this game gets way too many FPS in benchmarks these days. Although I d0ont know what Rays are there to trace on Dust II :)

    • @bok..
      @bok.. Рік тому +2

      Alot of source games have prebaked raytaced lighting

    • @AlucardArkaine
      @AlucardArkaine Рік тому

      Putting RT into a competitive game is just... Pointless.

    • @ufsteropolstero6014
      @ufsteropolstero6014 Рік тому

      Nobody will play CSGO with RT on, it's an online shooter and people want the highest fps to match their monitor refresh rate then they start increasing fidelity/resolution.

  • @denisruskin348
    @denisruskin348 Рік тому +5

    You think you have a high end card until you try good ol’ path tracing in Portal.

  • @killkiss_son
    @killkiss_son Рік тому +3

    That's just optimisation problem...
    The 1600$ RTX 4090 getting 70fps at 1080p in portal RTX be like 🙃

  • @lantrick
    @lantrick Рік тому +27

    Portal RTX doesn't really work on a non-RTX card? Weird.
    I never would have guessed.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 Рік тому +4

      RTX.
      Also AMD cards can do raytracing... Just not very good.

    • @Fipsh
      @Fipsh Рік тому

      Video title isn't "can AMD cards run portal RTX!?"

    • @SHUTENSEPC
      @SHUTENSEPC Рік тому +18

      @@Gatorade69 Oh nyo! Nvidia-payed title can't run on any other GPU! NO WAY!!!

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 Рік тому +4

      @@SHUTENSEPC Why you having a fit ?

    • @Atari5732
      @Atari5732 Рік тому

      I am a little shocked that the 6950 XT didn't handle the ray tracing a little better, but the other cards cost a fraction of the 3080 Ti and 6950 XT. Ray tracing is really one of the last barriers AMD needs to cross in order to really give Nvidia a run for their money.

  • @Jay_the_Caffeinator
    @Jay_the_Caffeinator Рік тому +7

    Awesome video Dawid!! It was great seeing the same 6700XT card that I have get curbed stomped.
    It was almost as if you could hear the cards asking for mercy.
    Are you going to do a follow up on these when the middle range 7000 series come out?

  • @deuslra3088
    @deuslra3088 Рік тому +2

    2007: can it run crysis?
    2013: can it run GTA 5?
    2022: can it run portal RTX?

  • @7shortofperfection
    @7shortofperfection Рік тому +5

    I was surprised how poorly my 3080 handled it

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 Рік тому

      Scared to even try it on my 3070.

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon Рік тому +6

    Dawid didn't ragequit the 6600.. .He had to rayquit.. :D

  • @evansearch7935
    @evansearch7935 Рік тому +1

    I was at work a few weeks ago and a dude in a Linode hoodie walks in, and I asked him where he got it. Turns out Linode is actually based in my city? Crazy.

  • @workdesu
    @workdesu Рік тому +1

    Having heard Dawid say "Linode" is christmas present enough for me 👌🏼✨

  • @metamon2704
    @metamon2704 Рік тому +16

    Weird that DLSS 3 actually seemed to work on a non-4000 series card.

    • @thephoenixking1086
      @thephoenixking1086 Рік тому +3

      I think it is falling back to DLSS 2.0 but just says 3.0 because it is an Nvidia Card, that sad I did hear that they may be allowing DLSS 3.0 to work on certain RTX 30 Cards.
      So my question is, does DLSS 3.0 Still work on RTX 20?? Dawid should try this.

    • @AlfaPro1337
      @AlfaPro1337 Рік тому +5

      DLSS3 is just a superset of DLSS2.

    • @1337dingus
      @1337dingus Рік тому

      It absolutely doesn't use frame generation on Ampere

    • @mleise8292
      @mleise8292 Рік тому +2

      What Alfa Proto said. DLSS 3.x is: DLSS 2.x + Reflex + Frame Generation (option only available on 40 series)

    • @Kyle-pj2vc
      @Kyle-pj2vc Рік тому +1

      @@thephoenixking1086 They should allow certain ampere cards to use frame generation. Like 3070 and up or something...
      Even amd allowed last gen cards to use RSR when they launched that feature.

  • @TekMerc
    @TekMerc Рік тому +8

    It's great you have a studio and everything, but I have to admit I miss Neko-chan.

  • @vailpcs4040
    @vailpcs4040 Рік тому

    Was waiting for you to cover the release somehow and this did not disappoint.

  • @grumpywolfgaming
    @grumpywolfgaming Рік тому

    Always the first youtube video I watch when I get off work, thanks for the entertainment :)

  • @kanyewested
    @kanyewested Рік тому +4

    Is there a video Linode isn't sponsoring! They are single-handedly making sure Dawid doesn't go into crippling debt

  • @giedmich
    @giedmich Рік тому

    3:21 that lagging fade into existence RT effect is present in ALL RT games.

  • @Arthur_url
    @Arthur_url Рік тому +1

    Portal 2 when it released: "I can run on a calculator"
    Portal 2 now: "wanna fry some eggs with that GPU of yours?"

  • @fritz_mg
    @fritz_mg Рік тому +16

    In the Radeon tests you still had motion blur on - though not sure how much of a difference that would make.

    • @AlexWinExperiments
      @AlexWinExperiments Рік тому +7

      It makes no difference

    • @289kman
      @289kman Рік тому +3

      motion blur makes no difference to fps rtx just sucks for amd

    • @fritz_mg
      @fritz_mg Рік тому

      @@289kman I know but may be it would increase it by one or two FPS? ;)

  • @RustedCroaker
    @RustedCroaker Рік тому +4

    Now lets run it on GTX 1650 - the most popular card among Steam users.

  • @darjanator
    @darjanator Рік тому +1

    DLSS 3.0 is just the name of the latest version of "helper" from nvidia. If it detects it has frame generation hardware available, it will use those, otherwise it will just fallback to whatever is available to it. It does include every other DLSS tech that has come before it.

  • @AdmrlSpeedy
    @AdmrlSpeedy Рік тому +11

    Afterburner/Rivatuner works fine for an overlay in Portal RTX.
    Also, DLSS 3 is just an advertising name for Deep Learning Super Sampling (which is currently at version 2.5) + Frame Generation+ Reflex Low Latency. If you don't have a 40 series card it just doesn't let you use frame generation.

    • @retromojo1
      @retromojo1 Рік тому

      yawn..

    • @AdmrlSpeedy
      @AdmrlSpeedy Рік тому

      @@retromojo1 ..?

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 Рік тому

      you say that, and, clearly it wasnt working for him, so, as you see, it doesnt work for everybody always, so

    • @AdmrlSpeedy
      @AdmrlSpeedy Рік тому

      @@arch1107 It literally works fine if you actually update it when an update comes out. I played through the entirety of Portal RTX with the overlay open to see how it hit my 3090 and I didn't even have to do anything (update or change any settings) on the day the game came out.
      He's probably running a version from months ago or something.

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 Рік тому

      @@AdmrlSpeedy my point is, you sre complaining about someyhing that can happen if you do not use ddu and latest version, so you saw a result
      it seems you live and die by afterburner
      fraps is a option that works sometimes
      dont complain, accept that things not always go acording to plan, specially here

  • @theyoyoiscool
    @theyoyoiscool Рік тому +3

    Portal with rtx is insane

  • @assetaden6662
    @assetaden6662 Рік тому +1

    Ayo, Dawid. When benchmarking Valve games, you can use console command "net_graph 1", that will show you frame time in "sv" compartment, real-time framerate and even latency to the server. Great video anyway :)

  • @josephkelly4893
    @josephkelly4893 Рік тому +2

    That dead eyed stare in the thumbnail is on point Dawid, niice

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson9798 Рік тому +3

    Respect ✊ to Mr Window Cleaner in Portal RTX for making the game look sooooo clean and shiny 👍🥰✊💪😇

  • @seansean8008
    @seansean8008 Рік тому +9

    Dawid, whenever I'm having a bad day, I can click one of your videos and your spot-on humor and content just puts a big smile on my face. Thank you

    • @sip5720
      @sip5720 Рік тому +2

      are you having a bad guy???

    • @archgirl
      @archgirl Рік тому +2

      @@sip5720This is my favorite kind of typo. I once tried to say “far too” in a message to a friend, and actually typed “fart oo” instead. I sent it before I’d noticed, and because I’m an eternal child, after I’d spotted it, I laughed, hard, for a good 15 minutes straight. Good times.

    • @seansean8008
      @seansean8008 Рік тому +1

      @@sip5720 no, i AM the bad guy muah-hah-hah

  • @DougS45
    @DougS45 Рік тому +1

    Dawid you have become one of my favorite channels!

  • @shadowwsk3507
    @shadowwsk3507 Рік тому +2

    Jensen's dream to completely replace the traditional rasterization with ray tracing has yet to come true

  • @TheTiagones
    @TheTiagones Рік тому +5

    Was the ghosting on the AMD graphics cards maybe because of that weird super sampling option you had enabled? It was instead of the DLSS 3, there was some TAA thing running at performance mode

    • @DimkaTsv
      @DimkaTsv Рік тому

      It is technically same for Nvidia.
      Except part that AMD runs at 1-5 FPS. So it just lingers longer so you can notice it.

  • @Cracko298
    @Cracko298 Рік тому +3

    Would RSR help the AMD Graphics Cards gain more performance/frames?

    • @thepunic5261
      @thepunic5261 Рік тому

      absolutely not because this game is made in mind to make the ray tracing performance of the nvidia cards way ahead of everybody which is wrong.

    • @kenos6939
      @kenos6939 Рік тому +3

      Yeah from 5 FPS to 10

    • @Cracko298
      @Cracko298 Рік тому

      @@kenos6939 200% improvement

  • @Justagamerl
    @Justagamerl Рік тому +1

    Clear glass isn't the final boss, those pneumatic pipes that try to have real RTX reflections on them are the final boss.

  • @FelixOnn1
    @FelixOnn1 Рік тому +1

    I wonder how the RTX Remix tool will work as a whole (for every game modded) considering optimization. I was trully excited to see what people could do with some good old titles (Spec Ops The Line, for instance). Now, I'm just not that excited anymore...

  • @udenaparenica
    @udenaparenica Рік тому +4

    You should compare the AMD cards to something like a 3050/60/60ti

    • @abhijeetsinghchauhan34
      @abhijeetsinghchauhan34 Рік тому

      without RTX amd cards (especially the 6950XT ) have on par performance with the 3080Ti and other, its just that nvidia's RTX implementation is more.mature

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Рік тому

      @@abhijeetsinghchauhan34 And gets the most optimization because, you know.

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol Рік тому +16

    Dawid knows how to push hardware to it's limits!!!

  • @DracoXdragon
    @DracoXdragon Рік тому +1

    Thanks dawid for showing the rtx menu, I had no Idea where it was and turning DLSS made the game run way better on my 2070

    • @strangestecho5088
      @strangestecho5088 Рік тому

      You can probably get it running at 60fps by changing the developer settings. The default settings crush anything below the 4000 series.

    • @DracoXdragon
      @DracoXdragon Рік тому

      @@strangestecho5088 alright I'll check it out

  • @MrCallmevader
    @MrCallmevader Рік тому

    Loving the frequent uploading of video's watching all the way from Barbados 🇧🇧

  • @beanbag8020
    @beanbag8020 Рік тому +5

    oh HELL yeah! some juicy Portal RTX content. I say that like my 2060 Super can run the game at all...

    • @AuroraGameworks
      @AuroraGameworks Рік тому +2

      1080p with DLSS Balanced or Performance mode, reduce the amount of light bounces from 4 down to 2, some other small optimisation tweaks like that, you'll have playable frame rates

    • @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
      @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Рік тому +1

      Wonder if my gt 710 can run it

  • @frkssen1820
    @frkssen1820 Рік тому +7

    Damn, if that's how the 3080 Ti performs then I doubt my 2070 can run it.

    • @ethanblanch6517
      @ethanblanch6517 Рік тому

      If you use DLSS, it'll run fine in my experience
      You won't have a good time at 1440p with dlss off though
      It's definitely playable on my 2070 though!

    • @frkssen1820
      @frkssen1820 Рік тому

      @@ethanblanch6517 Cool! Guess I'll give it a shot. Crazy how unoptimized new games are becoming lately including the new Witcher 3 next gen update.

    • @ethanblanch6517
      @ethanblanch6517 Рік тому

      @Kent Symie yeah, its insane
      Unfortunately the 2070 just isn't what it was a few years ago
      Even feels like games like black ops 3 and such are being slowed down

  • @darkmanure
    @darkmanure Рік тому

    Liked, I want to see Dawid reach 1 million subs. You're very unique among the techtubers.

  • @msquirrel1
    @msquirrel1 Рік тому +1

    The Linode sponsorship made my day!

  • @MrXaniss
    @MrXaniss Рік тому +3

    Yeah this the reason I went for a 4090 rather than waiting for the 7900 XTX, the 7900 is a BEAST and for the price definitely a better card, but I LOVE ray tracing so I went 4090.

    • @derekhatake
      @derekhatake Рік тому +1

      good for you

    • @MrXaniss
      @MrXaniss Рік тому +1

      @@derekhatake you're God damn right!

    • @truereaper4572
      @truereaper4572 Рік тому +1

      @@derekhatake Bad for his wallet :(

    • @MrXaniss
      @MrXaniss Рік тому +1

      @@truereaper4572 You're god damn right!
      *cries*

  • @herrakaarme
    @herrakaarme Рік тому +3

    You should have tried with a 2000 series RTX to see if 6000 RX really matches one of those. Although that being said, it is an Nvidia optimised game. I think 7900 XTX might have beaten 4090 in some heavily AMD optimised one. So, never underestimate brand optimisation if even Nvidia's top monster can't always overcome it with sheer brute force.

    • @zero-ej6rt
      @zero-ej6rt Рік тому +1

      True

    • @engenheirocaldasodocumenta6172
      @engenheirocaldasodocumenta6172 Рік тому +4

      Nvidia optimized is giving it credit. IT LITERALLY does not use AMD ray tracing accelerators.

    • @herrakaarme
      @herrakaarme Рік тому +1

      @@engenheirocaldasodocumenta6172 That would certainly explain the numbers. And the name, which pretty much says: Only for Nvidia GPUs.

  • @SiggsGBR
    @SiggsGBR Рік тому +1

    FYI for those watching; Steam build in FPS counter also works....but mine is grey and doesn't flicker? 🤔
    I played this yesterday on a laptop 3060(not a max-q) with balanced dlss 3.0. Left all the ray tracing stuff on default which was max...and got 35-45, which was more than I expected and playable enough

  • @noob_gnek7217
    @noob_gnek7217 Рік тому +3

    RT is created by Nvidia to destroy competitor's GPU as a sabotarge strategy

  • @Eremon1
    @Eremon1 Рік тому +8

    I love how Valve made a game that normally runs on a potato into a GPU slayer.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 Рік тому

      Mostly Nvidia that did it though. This remix stuff is pretty amazing. Bet we're gonna see a lot more of this once modders start messing with it.

    • @E55666
      @E55666 4 місяці тому +1

      @@zwenkwiel816 It's amazing how they make a game run and look like garbage

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 4 місяці тому

      @@E55666 hahaha.
      Yeah no...

    • @E55666
      @E55666 4 місяці тому

      @@zwenkwiel816 hahaha. Yeah yes...

  • @JasonDarbel
    @JasonDarbel Рік тому

    Love y’a Dawid, merci XMAS!

  • @prman9984
    @prman9984 Рік тому +1

    DLSS 3 includes upscaling and frame generation. So older NVidia cards can do DLSS 3 upscaling.

    • @rossclutterbuck1060
      @rossclutterbuck1060 Рік тому +1

      no, DLSS 3 runs as DLSS 2 on older hardware. As per usual, Nvidia are intentionally confusing and outright lying to their fangirls.

  • @Large_Sarge
    @Large_Sarge Рік тому +3

    Crapping on cards known to be behind on ray tracing is kind of like making fun of a quadriplegic for having a terrible high jump. I have a 3080 in my rig and I'm no fanboy of any gpu brand. I don't get the point of this video. Still love your channel. Thanks for the content.

  • @someguyoninternet802
    @someguyoninternet802 Рік тому +5

    I guess Portal RTX is a way to make others switch to Nvidia

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo Рік тому +4

      not nvidia, rtx 4000. obviously a marketing ploy. everything that is not a 4000 is sabotaged

    • @nesyboi9421
      @nesyboi9421 Рік тому

      I won't, it just makes me sad.

    • @BjornsTIR
      @BjornsTIR Рік тому

      It's only a bit of a bonus, really. It's clearly made for the 40 series and nothing else.

    • @aquanos
      @aquanos Рік тому

      @@GraveUypo Nah not really. As you probably saw the 3080 TI Was doing well enough even without DLSS at the HIGH preset with motion blur off. Granted you are playing 1080p but still the game looks stunning and definitely does not require 40 Series to run well. Just tweak the settings and you're good for 60 fps even with a 3070. It is a marketing ploy obviously, there's no reason to make this overhaul of a 2009 game if not for marketing.

    • @mihaitaghitu
      @mihaitaghitu Рік тому

      @@BjornsTIR it is made for cards that can do ray tracing. Obviously there are not so many out there. Slapping RTX on two previous generations of cards was simply a gimmick by nVidia marketing department.

  • @joshuamorin2762
    @joshuamorin2762 Рік тому

    Linode is officially my favorite company because they single handedly keep supporting my Dawid addiction.

  • @bocard80
    @bocard80 Рік тому +1

    Best line of 2022- Ghosting behind the Toilet 🤣 had me dieing 🤣

  • @vherostar
    @vherostar Рік тому +5

    Portal has shown the world how pointless RT is IMO. We can get almost the same effects with the lighting solutions we have now for a MUCH lower cost. RT is there to push DLSS which pushes nvidia GPUs. Nobody asked for the tech and only those who care more about FPS than gameplay like RTX.

    • @med3099
      @med3099 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, it is just a marketing gimmick. Even a damn 700$ 3080ti can’t pull steady 60fps on 1080p, only for what? Shiny reflections and fancy lighting

  • @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords
    @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords Рік тому +1

    I Love How Everybody Else Is Using 40 Series For Portal And Hes Using AMD....LOVE IT

  • @Nicky_Otto
    @Nicky_Otto Рік тому +1

    On my RTX 3080, with DLSS 3.0 it works on pretty much max with 45-60fps, without DLSS its like 30 or less.

  • @gnarlin4964
    @gnarlin4964 Рік тому +2

    Dawid needs some Radeon 7000 series cards to test the ray-tracing on.

  • @jritechnology
    @jritechnology Рік тому +1

    I love Dawids attempt at making the meme face of that constipated guy.....fantastical.

  • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
    @BlueEyedVibeChecker Рік тому

    It's 4am and I was stuck on whether to watch now or when I wake up.
    But as soon as I saw Linode in the description, I knew what had to be done.

  • @danagoyette7932
    @danagoyette7932 Рік тому

    Another thing I've seen basically nobody test on the 7900XTX: Minecraft Bedrock's ray tracing. I don't know why nobody tests it, considering how it seems to be almost fully raytraced, and doesn't support upscaling to make it easier (it's DLSS only).

  • @tails2299
    @tails2299 Рік тому

    Great video! Would have loved to see some tests of Turing (RTX 2000) curious how well those cards run this game relative to the RX 6000 and RTX 3000 cards.

    • @asiano3385
      @asiano3385 Рік тому +1

      RTX 2080 Super 1080p around 35fps.

    • @tails2299
      @tails2299 Рік тому +1

      @@asiano3385 thanks, really surprised that there is such a difference between RDNA2 and RTX 2000 for Ray Tracing. Wonder if RDNA3 can beat the RTX 2000.

    • @Infinite-INF
      @Infinite-INF Рік тому +1

      @@tails2299 7900xtx is 3090 level but the game is so badly optimised for it since nvidia made it that a 3070 may beat a 7900xtx in this