Lol oro can just summon the first hokage, 2nd hokage, 3rd hokage, 4th hokage and madara himself to help him 😂😂😂 Game over. They don’t even have to engage him themselves.
@@yureiotakughost9464 so what about this ma and pa help her get sage mode and then she ouches it so hard that she punches through it and kills Madara with one punch and then blows up the entire planet along with it
@@yureiotakughost9464 she broke a rib cage. It wasn't even armored, let a lone the full susano. If Tsunade strength was relevant, she wouldn't have got split in have by the perfect susano when she did figbt it in the war hahahaba
@@yureiotakughost9464 your riding her, she barley broke the ribcage, took her full strength, breaking a FULL SUSANOO is a feat that only 3 people have done. That being hashirama, naruto, and jigen.
Nah bro he always takes a leak in a special springs that only he knows. (Not even black zetzu knows about it. That's how special it is) right before battle. 🤣🤣🤣
@@don8535 I mean you’re right but he didn’t have the mangekyou sharingan yet so I think it’s sage to assume the Sannin would win. Any other version wins imo.
Tsunade had 4 kage with her and continuously got clapped so easily that madara said he was just messing around. Jiraiya got murdered by nagato who is nowhere near the strength of madara. Orochimaru literally flat out says he would be more of a burden than a help to sasuke who also needed naruto in six path sage mode to defeat madara. Out of the infinite realities that exist, there is not a single one that they defeat madara
Jiraiya actually lost to pain and pain is a lot weaker than nagato.Like A LOT.Sage mode Naruto and 6 tails Naruto was pains competition.Nagato wasn't really at his peak prime strength yet still was able to casually slap around kcm Naruto and killed bee then keep up with edo itachi, kcm Naruto, and bee at the same time.That alone shows the gap between pain and nagato
Sannin would win pain caught jiraiya off guard but frog song plus one snake bite plus acid it’s game over only way madara wins is if he goes straight to perfect susanoo but his nature as a tester of people would be his down fall the sannin together has better synergy and is a more powerful team by far orochimaru could summon a bunch of dead people with all types of hacks plus their own it’s no contest ! Orochimaru would also have a zestu body and at this point is more durable and has better healing than hashirama the dude got chopped in half arm cut off before and healed instantly
@@leonardorodriguez690Just Hashirama is enough if we are talking about every non six paths form of Madara,if we are talking about six paths Madara than the answer to your question is no.
How about a “How Strong Would Obito Be if he had both his Eyes” vid? Able to summon a Susanoo Have all the Kamui abilities Unable to be damaged by anyone who isn’t insanely fast
@@itzdiabolic1408 Ignoring the massive change to the timeline since if Obito had both of his eyes, then he would probably be on the side of Hidden Leaf since Madara would probably never get the chance to save/kidnap Obito. Obito would probably still get killed by Minato due to the seal that is located on his back. But if that was to change, then Obito would probably fair a lot better against the shinobi alliance since the only reason he got damaged in canon was due to the alliance having his other eye.
A lot of people actually misunderstand what the Pain statement about Jiraiya beating him really means. The "secret" Pain is referring to is the secret that Jiraiya didn't find out till the very end of the fight, the fact that Nagato, the child Jiraiya knew was the real rinnegan user, was not any of the pains. "The real one is not among them.". That is the message Jiraiya sent to the leaf and its one of the big mysteries of the arc as well as the fight with Pain in the rain village as a whole. Why Jiraiya would have won had he know Pains secret is quite simple, he wouldn't have engaged the Pains the same way. He would have deduced Nagato is controlling them via chakra rods, found a way to single out and kill one of the pains like he did to the animal path at the end of the fight, stab himself with a rod like Naruto did after beating Pain, and use the chakra to locate Nagato like Naruto did. We know Jiraiya was skilled enough to sneak around without the Pains finding him for a bit, so all he'd need is Nagatos location and he'd be able to make his way there and kill the mostly defenseless real Nagato in his machine. Granted Nagato could have called the Pains back beforehand or done something else to try and counter act this, but Pain only said "probably wouldn't have won" anyway, so he admitted there was a possibility the secret wouldn't have saved him.
@3rd Way a character saying something and the creator saying it are 2 different things... Also it doesnt matter if jiraya has a better skill set because he couldnt even beat 3 of the pains and they were the weaker 1s. Without Ma and Pa he wouldnt have been able to stop them. Coincidentally naruto also had Ma and Pa, knew pains every weakness and had more people on his side. Jiraya would lose to pain 100x out of a 100
@3rd Way I think what he meant by "he couldn't even beat the 3 weaker Pains" is that Jiraiya said if he continued to fight them head on even in sage mode he'd be killed. The problem is that it's ignoring the entire point of my comment is that Jiraiya never would have engaged the Pains directly had he had known about Nagato.
@@snowman9631 Without MA and PA is like saying Orochimaru couldn't beat Hiruzen without snakes, or Itachi couldn't beat Kakashi without sharningan. It's part of his skill set.
I can listen to u... 1. You're not bias 2. U actually talk facts and u research the facts that all can see... 3. U don't just spout any nonsense, love how u don't just head cannon the scenarios... Great vid...
Team 7 surpassed the Sannin by the time that Madara met them and he even fought Tsunade directly _WITH_ backup that should've been _at least_ equivalent to the Sannin if not greater
@@TreyUchiha nah, I think it’s not even close tbh. This might be a bad opinion, but I’d say that 10 tails 6 paths dual rinnegan rinnesharingan Madara is pretty much on Naruto’s level.
“Fuck no” is the only correct answer here lol. If the five kage at once (including tsunade…) couldn’t take out Edo Madara while he was holding back and fucking around, then the three Sannin absolutely couldn’t. Edo Madara did have the rinnegan and wood style and the infinite chakra/regen benefits from Edo tensei, but he was also arguably still physically weaker than his past living self (much less the rinne tensei version). Switching out Ohnoki, Gaara, A (4th Raikage) and Mei (not that she did much) for Jiraiya (even with his imperfect toad Sage mode) and Orochimaru… is not at all fair lol. Orochimaru was on the level of old Hiruzen (granted he got stronger again since then), who was still the strongest living Kage at the time. But him and jiraiya don’t necessarily make up for losing 4 total Kage, and even if they did, it wouldn’t be enough extra strength to even stand a chance of damaging Edo Madara. They would be losing a fighter as fast and strong and durable as the 4th Raikage, Gaara’s sand mausoleum seal, and the OP offensive power of Ohnoki’s particle style. The only versions of Madara the three Sannin could beat would be a very young kid Madara, the extremely elderly version who mentored Obito, and the version who was dying from the Juubi extraction lol
Yeah, this is obvious. The sanin are pretty weak compared to other high tier characters in the war arc of Naruto Shippuden. The Raikage, Gaara, and Onoki are definitely more powerful than Jiraiya(by far) and Orochimaru. Jiraiya is the weakest of the sanin so they stand no chance against Madara
- claims that Itachi can beat all 3 Sannin at once; - makes a video about whether they could beat the character that is at least 10 times stronger. Seems legit.
@@drose3312 in the Itachi situation? Or the Madara situation? Generally Itachi could probably take them all out if he doesn't have his stamina problem but if you take away his stamina problem you also have to take away Jiraiya's Imperfect Sage Mode and give him it without any consequences. But even still couldn't Itachi just put Jiriaya in a Genjustu or Tsukiyomi, and then easily take care of Orochimaru since he did that at the age of 15 before. And then his main problem being Tsunade, although since shes a brute she might just get caught in a Genjustu as well. So I guess Itachi's actual main problem is Jiriaya due to the type of fighter he is being both Analytical and Powerful instead of just powerful like Tsunade, and having more brute force than Orochimaru
@@Gotothelui I feel like what would happen was he seals orochimaru with the totsuka blade then he traps jiraya in tsukiyomi then maybe he uses susanno to get tsunade I guess
The sannin are stronger than the 5 kage bro come on. Jiraiya and Orochimaru are stronger than Ohnoki,A,Gaara and Mei. Of course even the sannin can't beat Madara the sannin are stronger than the 5 kage bro come on.
@@justinbarnes1818 Sasuke is able to see chakra pools with just the base Sharingan. I'm pretty sure EMS/Rinnegan would be able to look at the color and numbers of the Uno cards.
Much better than swagkage. Thank you for actually respecting Jiraya enough to explore his character and capabilities instead of just screaming that Madara stomps like we don’t already know that
Jiraiya is absolute trash. The scaling in this video was highballing to the highest magnitude. Jiraiya loses to almost every war arc character. Jiraiya and Orochimaru does not beat the four kage. That's a joke
depends on what version of orochimaru were using, orochimaru in boruto is no joke as he is well above kage level and has many keke genkai like kimimaros and ukons as well as wood style, however hes greatest power would be edo tensei, which he should still be able to use the 4 hokage against madara.
7:14 kabuto didn’t actually have to wear those glasses, I’m pretty sure they where stated to be the last memory he had of hi mother or something like that.
I fell asleep watching this video because by 7 minutes I still hadn’t heard how Madara would use jirara as a mop in his snake boots made from orichimaru while he plays ping pong with sunade and her 100 healings jutsu. But legit man you guys should make bedtime stories. I was out like a light.
obviously Madara wins, but i think, we should consider the opportunities the summoning animals bring, maybe they could deal with the susanoo for a short period. Orochimarus eight-headed serpent too.
But Edo Hashirama, a summoning of Orochimaru, beats this Madara (or tied with him if you want). Then Orochimaru on his own is able to fight Edo Madara, as long as Edo Hashirama is willing to take the fight. Giving the narrative from the war arc, he probably would want to prevent the Mugen Tsukuyomi anyway. Orochimaru takes the win for the sannins.
Agreed. He does not need to revive the other three kage as it would take too much chakra. All he needs is hashirama. Madara would dominate in the beginning, but then struggle against the longevity of hashirama and orochimaru.
when Madara pulls out perfect susanoo he just instawins regardless of what the sannin do since the perfect suanoo literally will block all genjutsu and none of the sannin's jutsus can actually damage the susanoo except maybe a Sage mode ampted great flame rasengan from jiraiya which might make a small dent but that's it.
@@wackyhobopizzaguy9269 well I wasn't saying it would beat the susanoo, not even close, just saying it's the only thing that they have which can even damage a perfect susanoo really xD
To be fair itachi gen can only be countered by stronger eyes or someone like tsunade healing after the 1second trauma. Then the tosuka blade is death the moment ur pierced
@@ifeanyiogbennaya7773 true.. but a base sharingan.. infact I dont even know of it was a sharingan genjutsu Either way Itachi isn't Madara level his eyes are way weaker (look at the susanno power difference) I think Madara wipes easy tbh... hes just too strong.. the Sannin are a strong team but not vs someone like Madara
@@user-uj4gy8bt2b Gaara from Early Shippudden might be enough. Gaara was performing better than Sasuke against Deidara. His normal sand could react and block Deidara's C3 and his Gourd sand blitzed and crippled Deidara. C3 > C2 as per Deidara's own words, and C2 was enough to take down one of Hebi Sasuke's wings. Gaara only lost because Deidara cheated and attacked the village. Kimmimaro's databook stats pit him around Base Hebi sasuke in speed. Gaara >~ CM2 Hebi Sasuke > Base Hebi ~ Kimmimaro.
@@zanies6288 HELLLL NAHHHH 😭😭😭, CM2 Sasuke would’ve slaughtered Gaara , gaara actually lost, Sasuke won and forced deidara to commit a suicide attack and still not kill him .
if we count the current orochimaru there is a high chance since he has wood release and a zetsu body he might be able to use sage mode he has all the sound 4 jutsu and almost certainty has curse marks ready to revive himself if he dies, he has powerful regeneration and technically speaking he should be able to revive hashirama whenever he wants since you need dna and a sacrifice eh has his Cells and a sacrifice would be easy to get he could grab some fodder
we dont scale boruto stuff for things like this because boruto scaling is wacky as fuck, its inconsistent and all over the place, not to mention the major power cliffing the boruto series has. seth the programer has a video on why nobody scales boruto and all the flaws with boruto scaling.
Great video Six! Thanks for the content, i have been missing it. Would really like to see some JJK content, and maybe that with a collaboration with Spencer (you guys are a great duo). Thanks for the content, and keep up the hard work king!
@@Jsipki265 Right but Sasuke is the same in scaling he’s had nothing new and I doubt baryon mode alone is enough to make Naruto carry Sasuke till Frieza level, I still doubt they could beat Saiyan nappa or Vegeta lol
@@talha7032 go watch either seth’s or king bullet vids on naruto they can easily scale them above nappa and vegeta sayian saga. The scaling to naruto have changed
Yea I plan on doing this one but it won't be for a while because I just covered the sannin here and I don't wanna bring up the same things again and again. I might do Minato vs just one of them though.
@@abdulraufi6738 KCM should never be considered when having Minato in versus battles. That kind of power is for Naruto and Minato clearly stated that he only sealed the other half in himself because he thought that Kurama was too much for Naruto to control, not to mention that Kishimoto only did it for the purpose of showing Minato as a badass with his son & then he eventually gave back the other half to Naruto later in the 4th war. So really kcm should not be really considered.
Actually pains secret was that his real body was hidden close by. His weakness would be to abandon the fights with the paths and attack his real body. The paths would protect him, but he would be vulnerable. ie the real one is not among them.
The "if Oro turned earlier Jiraiya wouldn't have died" thing could also mean Oro could talk Jiraiya into running away from Pain instead of going back and getting himself killed
The way I see it is that if orochimaru had returned, jiraiya would've felt like he accomplished something. Jiraiya's flashbacks directly show that jiraiya put all his cards on the table to beat pain simply for failing at the important stuff before, and orochimaru returning would likely put less pressure on jiraiya to risk his life to pursue pain
This lmao. MAYBE the sannin have a chance if Tsunade activates her seal, Jiraiya gets Madara in a frog genjutsu and Orochimaru summons the first 4 Hokage. Then they could win.
I believe when they faced Hanson Jiriaya was heavily injured and couldn’t walk on his own, and Orochimaru and Tsunade were heavily fatigued when they met. So if that’s true, Hanzo isn’t really that strong.
I think the statement about the sannin being on the level of the gokage means that each sannin is on the level of a kage, atleast that always was how i always took it and its pretty much confirmed with feats from the manga/anime.
The scaling of the 5 Kage always seemed weird to me since the Raikage was beating KCM1 Naruto in terms of both speed and power to the point where Naruto said taking hits from the Raikage would be bad for him, implying it could really damage or incapaciate him We know that this version of Naruto is stronger than the Sage Mode Naruto from the Pain fight, and stronger than the Sage version of himself that did most of the work in overpowering half of Kurama in his Waterfall of Truth trial. The only Sage Naruto that's comparable to KCM1 is the War Arc Sage Naruto who had to use Sage Mode's sensory borderline precog in order to psuedo surpass KCM1's speed (more so prediction rather than being faster) Ay is relative to the other Kage overall, but is physically the fastest and second strongest, so putting base Jiraya at that level when he's under Sage Jiraya who's under Sage Naruto from the Pain fight is weird. Same with Base Tsunade and Orochimaru. I think Hundred Healings Tsunade surpasses Jiraya in terms of AP and maybe speed due to her feats against Madara tbh
@@jasoncruz19800 also you could use the part 1 oro n jirayia being equal n orochirmaru killing the 3rd who is stated to be he strongest out of the gokage
@@justinbarnes1818 Stop with the fanboy lying. Jiraiya has horrible feats compared to the 5 kage. Just stop. He has crappy techniques and an incomplete sagemode. Overall, Jiraiya is one of the weaker characters in Naruto Shippuden.
@@EchoDragonHawk umm actually no literally all he has to do is speed blitz and one tap oro ppl really think oro has the potential and ability to dodge madara one Shinra tensei folded him one planetary devastation kills him immediately plu the broad range of his fire and Woodstyle
Haven't listened to the whole vid yet but if Oro could use Edo Tensei like Kabuto in the War Arc after getting Zetsu's body I think they may beat Edo Madara high-dif.
He could have because edo hashi stalemated/ kinda binded rinnegan ems madara and oro had tobirama, Minato, and hiruzen as well. He definitely could although the edo is scenario is not that fair although although it’d get the job done xd.
@@Dj-fb8bs Yeah because it basically adds Nagato, Itachi, the dead Akatsuki members besides Konan and Kisame, people like Dan who have intel on Madara (supposedly), etc. So it'd be interesting to see that
okay but if he wants them to be on a low enough nerfed state that they can actually contribute to the battle, he wouldn't have control over the edos. and since there's no aforementioned storyline, we can't confirm if the edo would even help them or not.
@@stealth8457 But y does that mean as a group and y does it mean power it could just be reputation or IF it is power it could just mean 1 sannin~1 kage
Honestly if he was blood u Lusted and immediately going for the kill pain absolutely could ppl really out here only thinking the sannin tough cause of war arc oro lolo
Tsunade got slapped by madara Jiraiya got slapped by one of the weak paths of pain Orochimaru got slapped by Kirin sasuke and itachi Conclusion: they don’t stand a chance
Hold up now, Orochimaru only got slapped by Kirin Sasuke because he was still nerfed by his encounter with Hiruzen. But he definitely got slapped by Itachi. Multiple times.
well, I mean, if we are talking about absolute full power orochimaru, he can probably solo every version of madara except juubi madara by edo tensei everyone at his disposal, which is 1st-4th hokage and 4th kazekage, maybe the 3rd kazekage as well if you take filler
Against alive ems EMS Madara mayyyybe if they all work together and using everything they got. But rinnegan Madara- no way they can win... rinnegan Madara literally toyed with the 5 kage...
@@jonathanweigl How are they wining against Madara with perfect sousanoo, kyubii as a summon and his experience? Tsunade will heal herself, Jiraya will hit Madara with rasengan?
that gen jutsu relies on the speed of sound, madara is most definetly faster than sound and can easily dodge it, i mean a blind madara with his back turned was able to turn around and react to and dodge a tobirama blitz attempt while tobirama was using flying rajin (teleportation aka faster than sound movement). now that was madara with sage mode, but his ems gives roughly the same amp if not more than sage mode, so even without sage mode im confident he could pull the same stunt as long as he has ems or rinnegan. plus his sharingan would give him the ability to see the chakara forming in a particular way in the frogs vocal cords and obvisouly come to the conclusion that a gen jutsu is being cast. im not trying to suck off madara, but theres no way he would get cought in it. its one of the most powerful gen jutsu but has a major flaw in its effectiveness against speedsters like madara.
@@TheMaster5059 anyone who is ultrasonic, has sensory capabilities to see the chakra being mould, and has a brain can dodge the genjutsu. or, just throw a couple of kunai at em
orochimarus edo tensei is incomplete and would summon an extremely weak hashirama. hiruzin was able to take out orochimarus edo hashirama and tobirama at the same time and madara is way above hiruzin in power scaling.
Edo tensei itachi is stronger than one Sannin, when he was alive he was weaker or on the same level, against 3 he has no chance unless tsunade gets a heart attack or something.
@@jovanyessir put all of them in a genjutsu and amaterasu. tsunade’d be lucky if itachi let him use 100 healings off the bat. if orochimaru was just hiding and reanimated the kage they’d win
Orochimaru could summon Minato, Tobirama, Hashirama, maybe the third raikage You don’t know what you’re talking about. Everytime Oro is involved you uchiha bottom boys nerf him and forbid him from using EDO TENSEI
@@flowzissus4113 they didn’t improve enough from that time period to even remotely challenge madara short of edo tensei from orchimaru, and then it’s not really them doing the fighting. Even with edo you could argue they don’t have any summons to beat him with the exception of hashirama who could just break out of edo.
The only problem with this is. Do we give Orichimaru the ability to summon the 1st hokage? Because if so then Orchimaru could revive him closer to his full power as its not like he would have to convince him to fight Madera. If so then the Sannin win. It would also be in charater because Orichimaru brought back the First and the 2nd twice now and in part one was going to bring out the 4th but was stopped.
Six I've actually been arguing this years with friends that the Sannin in their respective primes and as a team(obviously) they stand a significant chance better than even the five kage when they fought Madara
For the Genjutsu point, I remember Orochimaru managing to put the 8 tails under a Genjutsu. Madara wins clearly but just pointing that out. I also think Edo Tensei should be a part of this fight.
Ok if all 5 kage couldn't beat him one of them being a sanin whats taking away 4 kage and putting in a guy who couldn't even beat the paths of pain and another guy who's as strong a old hiruzen at best gonna do
Thank you for not disrespecting jiraiya like the every other naruto UA-camr which I’m sick of. I know for sure the Sannin have no chance against any Madara , but people keep saying jiraiya ain’t much because he got killed by pain. People don’t realize what a massive disadvantage the fight against pain was for jiraiya , first of all its more than likely that nagato knew how jiraiya fights since he was his teacher which might be Little or a lot of knowledge either way it’s a disadvantage The terrain where they fought was one hundred percent controlled by nagato because he knows the ins and outs of the village and most likely since he lives there the six pains were at full strength aka much stronger than when he arrived at konoha , plus him absolutely taking advantage of the fact that jiraiya is confused about his identity and can jump him at any moment A direct confrontation still would lead jiraiya to die most times if he wasn’t prepared and didn’t know about nagato’s secret , but given the worst circumstances imaginable for him and he still took out three paths of pain is still insane for him to accomplish.
I'd love to see a Might Guy Vs Sauske (at what point in the story does Sauske or Guy beat the other? Does 5 kage summit Sauske beat 7th or even 6th gate Guy? Could EMS or Rinnegan Sauske beat 8th gate Guy?)
Ayo I know it’s out of context but I have a theory: my theory is that Sarada’s Mangekyou ability will be based on greek mythology instead of japanese mythology, specifically the god Hermes but could also be based on the god wind fujin. I think she’ll be able to slow or speed herself up with her right eye and then it’ll be like Flash where she moves normal but other things around her is slowed down and with her left eye she can slow or speed up other things/objects. That way she would be the fastest shinobi ever and she’ll be able to keep up with Boruto and Kawaki so she wont be left out like sakura.
I can understand why this video is a thing, especially with Jiraiya and Orochimaru. They bring a bigger arsenal[technique diversity] to the table in my opinion than the other Kage. aside from Ohnoki[particle style] and Gaara the rest are no big deal skill wise. Individually.
@@DS-dw3pz also the three sanins would already know hanzo abilities while hanzo wouldnt know that jiraiya can go sage mode, Tsunade with byakugou seal and orochimaru is basically immortal
Alternative title: How badly Madara disciplines his best friends’ granddaughter and her 2 friends
Yup lol
This is the title of a doujin
@@mrevilducky 🤣🤣🤣🤣👀👀link? For research....
His old as hell just spoke to obito just with slipper in hand 😂
Lol oro can just summon the first hokage, 2nd hokage, 3rd hokage, 4th hokage and madara himself to help him 😂😂😂 Game over. They don’t even have to engage him themselves.
Madara: Perfect Susanoo
Orochimaru: Holy
Jiraiya: Fucking
Tsunade: Shit
I mean Tsunade did break his susano so she'd probably just go
"...Eh I'll punch it harder this time"
@@yureiotakughost9464 so what about this ma and pa help her get sage mode and then she ouches it so hard that she punches through it and kills Madara with one punch and then blows up the entire planet along with it
@@yureiotakughost9464 she broke a rib cage. It wasn't even armored, let a lone the full susano. If Tsunade strength was relevant, she wouldn't have got split in have by the perfect susano when she did figbt it in the war hahahaba
@@yureiotakughost9464 your riding her, she barley broke the ribcage, took her full strength, breaking a FULL SUSANOO is a feat that only 3 people have done. That being hashirama, naruto, and jigen.
@@yureiotakughost9464 she broke a ribcage with help bro 😭. She gotta punch hundreds maybe even thousands of times harder
The Sannin win with ease. They just have to watch Madara pee, and seal him away while he’s flustered.
🧢🧢🧢
@@hypnotic_o It’s a joke.
@@jasmitsingh9582 Some people don't get jokes
@@BirdOfHermes83 Unfortunately :(
Nah bro he always takes a leak in a special springs that only he knows. (Not even black zetzu knows about it. That's how special it is) right before battle. 🤣🤣🤣
For some reason, I thought Swag might be here talking about his boi Madara
You can silently hear him moaning in the background
@@kashinovirus7278 😂😂😂 you bodied that
It’s a fair assumption
@@Dj-fb8bs thx
@@kashinovirus7278 same ngl 😂
The only version of Madara that’s losing this fight is kid Madara
Kid Madara might bully them too, he doesn't have enough feats to prove it one way or another
@@don8535 I mean you’re right but he didn’t have the mangekyou sharingan yet so I think it’s sage to assume the Sannin would win. Any other version wins imo.
Or blind pre ems madara
@@eonmusic00001 ems Madara had perfect susanoo.
@@Theonefrombeyon he literally said pre ems
Tsunade had 4 kage with her and continuously got clapped so easily that madara said he was just messing around. Jiraiya got murdered by nagato who is nowhere near the strength of madara. Orochimaru literally flat out says he would be more of a burden than a help to sasuke who also needed naruto in six path sage mode to defeat madara. Out of the infinite realities that exist, there is not a single one that they defeat madara
This..... All of this.
Jiraiya actually lost to pain and pain is a lot weaker than nagato.Like A LOT.Sage mode Naruto and 6 tails Naruto was pains competition.Nagato wasn't really at his peak prime strength yet still was able to casually slap around kcm Naruto and killed bee then keep up with edo itachi, kcm Naruto, and bee at the same time.That alone shows the gap between pain and nagato
And nagato was edo tensei so hes not as strong as he wouldve been if he was alive and not crippled.
There exists no reality in which madara loses trust me it took me 5 months to check
Sannin would win pain caught jiraiya off guard but frog song plus one snake bite plus acid it’s game over only way madara wins is if he goes straight to perfect susanoo but his nature as a tester of people would be his down fall the sannin together has better synergy and is a more powerful team by far orochimaru could summon a bunch of dead people with all types of hacks plus their own it’s no contest ! Orochimaru would also have a zestu body and at this point is more durable and has better healing than hashirama the dude got chopped in half arm cut off before and healed instantly
Every time there’s a “could [redacted] beat madara?” The answer is always no lol
Exactly😹😹
lmao
Could sage mode naruto, jiraiya, minato and hashirama beat Madara??
@@leonardorodriguez690Just Hashirama is enough if we are talking about every non six paths form of Madara,if we are talking about six paths Madara than the answer to your question is no.
@@rotationalshorts9104 sage mode + rinnegan Madara vs all the sage mode users 👀
"he's just like, a different kind of guy" is the best description of Madara I've ever heard
I know it's a joke and all, but it's pretty obvious that Kabuto keeps the glasses cause his "mother" gave them to him.
How about a “How Strong Would Obito Be if he had both his Eyes” vid?
Able to summon a Susanoo
Have all the Kamui abilities
Unable to be damaged by anyone who isn’t insanely fast
DMs obito would solo the 5Kage and the war 🥱
@@itzdiabolic1408 cap
@@itzdiabolic1408 he gets blitzed by minato via raijin seal thats still on his body
@@itzdiabolic1408 Ignoring the massive change to the timeline since if Obito had both of his eyes, then he would probably be on the side of Hidden Leaf since Madara would probably never get the chance to save/kidnap Obito. Obito would probably still get killed by Minato due to the seal that is located on his back. But if that was to change, then Obito would probably fair a lot better against the shinobi alliance since the only reason he got damaged in canon was due to the alliance having his other eye.
@@BadKarma1608 he would have to be tangible for minato to do it. And hypothetically dms obito should be able to be intangible for longer
A lot of people actually misunderstand what the Pain statement about Jiraiya beating him really means.
The "secret" Pain is referring to is the secret that Jiraiya didn't find out till the very end of the fight, the fact that Nagato, the child Jiraiya knew was the real rinnegan user, was not any of the pains. "The real one is not among them.". That is the message Jiraiya sent to the leaf and its one of the big mysteries of the arc as well as the fight with Pain in the rain village as a whole.
Why Jiraiya would have won had he know Pains secret is quite simple, he wouldn't have engaged the Pains the same way. He would have deduced Nagato is controlling them via chakra rods, found a way to single out and kill one of the pains like he did to the animal path at the end of the fight, stab himself with a rod like Naruto did after beating Pain, and use the chakra to locate Nagato like Naruto did.
We know Jiraiya was skilled enough to sneak around without the Pains finding him for a bit, so all he'd need is Nagatos location and he'd be able to make his way there and kill the mostly defenseless real Nagato in his machine.
Granted Nagato could have called the Pains back beforehand or done something else to try and counter act this, but Pain only said "probably wouldn't have won" anyway, so he admitted there was a possibility the secret wouldn't have saved him.
This. Jiraiya is intelligent and experienced, having the knowledge wouldn't make him as reckless as he was.
In no way could jiraya ever beat pain or nagato. Naruto was flat out stronger, had more info and pain was nerfed. Still got his ass handed to him
@3rd Way a character saying something and the creator saying it are 2 different things... Also it doesnt matter if jiraya has a better skill set because he couldnt even beat 3 of the pains and they were the weaker 1s. Without Ma and Pa he wouldnt have been able to stop them. Coincidentally naruto also had Ma and Pa, knew pains every weakness and had more people on his side. Jiraya would lose to pain 100x out of a 100
@3rd Way I think what he meant by "he couldn't even beat the 3 weaker Pains" is that Jiraiya said if he continued to fight them head on even in sage mode he'd be killed.
The problem is that it's ignoring the entire point of my comment is that Jiraiya never would have engaged the Pains directly had he had known about Nagato.
@@snowman9631 Without MA and PA is like saying Orochimaru couldn't beat Hiruzen without snakes, or Itachi couldn't beat Kakashi without sharningan. It's part of his skill set.
I can listen to u...
1. You're not bias
2. U actually talk facts and u research the facts that all can see...
3. U don't just spout any nonsense, love how u don't just head cannon the scenarios...
Great vid...
I love quoting Madara and I can sum this battle up in just one quote:
"What adult goes full force when fighting _mere children_ "
Team 7 surpassed the Sannin by the time that Madara met them and he even fought Tsunade directly _WITH_ backup that should've been _at least_ equivalent to the Sannin if not greater
He literally reduced a army of 50,000 people in less than 5 mins.
Madara:…..
Gaara: Is he a God?
Madara: …
That’s like discussing a battle between a butterfly and a tank
Bad analogy you know how hard it’ll be to kill a butterfly with a tank? At best it’ll come to a stalemate 😭
@@eros5744lol yeag
@@eros5744
It would probably be as difficult as it would be easy.
This is crazy scary I literally just tweeted swagkage to do this this morning.. thank you six
Np lol
@@sixfromtokyo keep it up you gonna sky rocket. I hope to do a video with y’all one day
@@TreyUchiha Swagkagw definitely would’ve said Madara in 1 second lol
@@matthewmatuszak9034 I mean would he be wrong? Blood lust perfect susano? What you think?
@@TreyUchiha nah, I think it’s not even close tbh. This might be a bad opinion, but I’d say that 10 tails 6 paths dual rinnegan rinnesharingan Madara is pretty much on Naruto’s level.
“Fuck no” is the only correct answer here lol.
If the five kage at once (including tsunade…) couldn’t take out Edo Madara while he was holding back and fucking around, then the three Sannin absolutely couldn’t. Edo Madara did have the rinnegan and wood style and the infinite chakra/regen benefits from Edo tensei, but he was also arguably still physically weaker than his past living self (much less the rinne tensei version). Switching out Ohnoki, Gaara, A (4th Raikage) and Mei (not that she did much) for Jiraiya (even with his imperfect toad Sage mode) and Orochimaru… is not at all fair lol. Orochimaru was on the level of old Hiruzen (granted he got stronger again since then), who was still the strongest living Kage at the time. But him and jiraiya don’t necessarily make up for losing 4 total Kage, and even if they did, it wouldn’t be enough extra strength to even stand a chance of damaging Edo Madara. They would be losing a fighter as fast and strong and durable as the 4th Raikage, Gaara’s sand mausoleum seal, and the OP offensive power of Ohnoki’s particle style. The only versions of Madara the three Sannin could beat would be a very young kid Madara, the extremely elderly version who mentored Obito, and the version who was dying from the Juubi extraction lol
Yeah, this is obvious. The sanin are pretty weak compared to other high tier characters in the war arc of Naruto Shippuden. The Raikage, Gaara, and Onoki are definitely more powerful than Jiraiya(by far) and Orochimaru. Jiraiya is the weakest of the sanin so they stand no chance against Madara
@@jasoncruz19800 ok stop cause now you capping
@@traderreapper6080 No. Its all facts. Go look at their feats. Not rocket science..
@@traderreapper6080 nothing he said was cap other than (debatably) jiraiya being the weakest sanin.
The three sannin are stronger then the 5 kage
- claims that Itachi can beat all 3 Sannin at once;
- makes a video about whether they could beat the character that is at least 10 times stronger.
Seems legit.
He was just high balling then Sannin to make it fair
@@drose3312 in the Itachi situation? Or the Madara situation? Generally Itachi could probably take them all out if he doesn't have his stamina problem but if you take away his stamina problem you also have to take away Jiraiya's Imperfect Sage Mode and give him it without any consequences. But even still couldn't Itachi just put Jiriaya in a Genjustu or Tsukiyomi, and then easily take care of Orochimaru since he did that at the age of 15 before. And then his main problem being Tsunade, although since shes a brute she might just get caught in a Genjustu as well. So I guess Itachi's actual main problem is Jiriaya due to the type of fighter he is being both Analytical and Powerful instead of just powerful like Tsunade, and having more brute force than Orochimaru
@@Gotothelui I feel like what would happen was he seals orochimaru with the totsuka blade then he traps jiraya in tsukiyomi then maybe he uses susanno to get tsunade I guess
@@TheToxicEliteOfficial Some say tsunade solos Itachi...
@@marwyn8152 just wrong
The five kage couldn’t even beat him so i don’t think they would have a chance…
The sannin are stronger than the 5 kage bro come on. Jiraiya and Orochimaru are stronger than Ohnoki,A,Gaara and Mei. Of course even the sannin can't beat Madara the sannin are stronger than the 5 kage bro come on.
you're underestimating the five kage. Only Mei is slightly weaker, the other kages are pretty much on the same power level as the sannins
@@jeevitheshram31 bro literally raikage himself could DOG the shit outta all 3 sannin 😐 they are all chosen to be the Kage’s for a reason 😐
@@LibertyGunsBeerTits Raikage can beat a old Jiraya, but Jariya at his prime, just dominates.
@@DungTran-hn3eq ohnoki alone slaps the 3 sannins with absolute ease (in a 1v1) theyre not even close to the 5 kages.
Madara plays Uno with the Sannin and becomes the first to win because he can see the opponents cards with the Sharingan.
I thought that was the hyuga clan that can do that not the uchiha??
@@justinbarnes1818 Sasuke is able to see chakra pools with just the base Sharingan. I'm pretty sure EMS/Rinnegan would be able to look at the color and numbers of the Uno cards.
NOBODY BEATS ME IN UNO......
This is like asking “could konohamaru beat ultra instinct goku”
@PL23 you’re saying that the comparison between a human ninja and a universe busting Saiyan is to big a gap? Damn, should’ve said it as a joke.
How about "strongest kunoichis in Shippuden era". Having Edo Yugito in the list will be interesting to see
Much better than swagkage. Thank you for actually respecting Jiraya enough to explore his character and capabilities instead of just screaming that Madara stomps like we don’t already know that
Can't be a swagkage vid without "lets compare them to madara"
Jiraiya is absolute trash. The scaling in this video was highballing to the highest magnitude. Jiraiya loses to almost every war arc character.
Jiraiya and Orochimaru does not beat the four kage. That's a joke
This is a legit discussion? I’m pretty sure madara shit stomps no diff.
@3rd Way the hokage who are massively inferior to their alive versions
@3rd Way Madara wasn’t massively inferior because he was reanimated using Kabuto’s version of Edo Tensei, which is miles better than Orochimaru’s.
@3rd Way if apparently orochimaru's edo was reviving them to near their full power, how did hiruzen handle em?
@3rd Way Madara knows the hand signs too wouldn't work he'd stop it or take over the summons way too fast way too strong
@3rd Way Thats what the 5 kage thought....
Short answer: No
Long answer: Hell no
depends on what version of orochimaru were using, orochimaru in boruto is no joke as he is well above kage level and has many keke genkai like kimimaros and ukons as well as wood style, however hes greatest power would be edo tensei, which he should still be able to use the 4 hokage against madara.
Or war arc orochimaru reanimates the 4 hokages beats edo madara
7:14 kabuto didn’t actually have to wear those glasses, I’m pretty sure they where stated to be the last memory he had of hi mother or something like that.
I fell asleep watching this video because by 7 minutes I still hadn’t heard how Madara would use jirara as a mop in his snake boots made from orichimaru while he plays ping pong with sunade and her 100 healings jutsu. But legit man you guys should make bedtime stories. I was out like a light.
The 4 previous kage couldnt take him down but lets make a video about the 3 sanin.
Wym the 4 previous kage?
U mean hokage because this is just edo madara not the madara they fought
obviously Madara wins, but i think, we should consider the opportunities the summoning animals bring, maybe they could deal with the susanoo for a short period. Orochimarus eight-headed serpent too.
Nah.
Susanoo is WAAAAAAAAY bigger than them, and can just slice them in half at the same time.
If shinobi strikers taught me anything ino jizo beats anything and every thing
Who is jizo
Jiraiyas hair needle jutsu
But Edo Hashirama, a summoning of Orochimaru, beats this Madara (or tied with him if you want). Then Orochimaru on his own is able to fight Edo Madara, as long as Edo Hashirama is willing to take the fight. Giving the narrative from the war arc, he probably would want to prevent the Mugen Tsukuyomi anyway.
Orochimaru takes the win for the sannins.
Agreed. He does not need to revive the other three kage as it would take too much chakra. All he needs is hashirama. Madara would dominate in the beginning, but then struggle against the longevity of hashirama and orochimaru.
when Madara pulls out perfect susanoo he just instawins regardless of what the sannin do since the perfect suanoo literally will block all genjutsu and none of the sannin's jutsus can actually damage the susanoo except maybe a Sage mode ampted great flame rasengan from jiraiya which might make a small dent but that's it.
Doubt that even that would work, but yeah.
@@wackyhobopizzaguy9269 well I wasn't saying it would beat the susanoo, not even close, just saying it's the only thing that they have which can even damage a perfect susanoo really xD
Orochimaru.. strongest Sannin 1 shot by itachi using regular sharingan and genjutsu
Madara with EMS.......
To be fair itachi gen can only be countered by stronger eyes or someone like tsunade healing after the 1second trauma. Then the tosuka blade is death the moment ur pierced
@@ifeanyiogbennaya7773 true.. but a base sharingan.. infact I dont even know of it was a sharingan genjutsu
Either way Itachi isn't Madara level his eyes are way weaker (look at the susanno power difference)
I think Madara wipes easy tbh... hes just too strong.. the Sannin are a strong team but not vs someone like Madara
@@ifeanyiogbennaya7773 The genjutsu was Shackling Stakes Technique
Not even a sharingan genjutsu lol
Got whooped by sasuke in his own world
Shoutout to all the people who said the kage would give a better fight in the community post lmao
Swagkage saying Madara wins finally makes sense.
I had to get a restraining order against him.....
@@HITUPDJP makes sense
Or something like would gaara have beaten kimimaro if he didn’t have cancer
Nah he was one second away from losing! Although hokage gaara, war arc gaara, and adult hokage gaara slaps
@@user-uj4gy8bt2b
Gaara from Early Shippudden might be enough.
Gaara was performing better than Sasuke against Deidara.
His normal sand could react and block Deidara's C3 and his Gourd sand blitzed and crippled Deidara. C3 > C2 as per Deidara's own words,
and C2 was enough to take down one of Hebi Sasuke's wings.
Gaara only lost because Deidara cheated and attacked the village.
Kimmimaro's databook stats pit him around Base Hebi sasuke in speed.
Gaara >~ CM2 Hebi Sasuke > Base Hebi ~ Kimmimaro.
@@zanies6288 no. Garra lost because deaidra outsmarted him. Sasuke outsmarted deidara was always steps ahead of him in the fight
@@user-uj4gy8bt2b Non Cancer Kimimaro makes easy work of Kid Gaara tbh. Adult Gaara on the other hand would win.
@@zanies6288 HELLLL NAHHHH 😭😭😭, CM2 Sasuke would’ve slaughtered Gaara , gaara actually lost, Sasuke won and forced deidara to commit a suicide attack and still not kill him .
This was really impressive I never thought someone's knowledge of the Naruto series could be so vast
if we count the current orochimaru there is a high chance since he has wood release and a zetsu body he might be able to use sage mode he has all the sound 4 jutsu and almost certainty has curse marks ready to revive himself if he dies, he has powerful regeneration and technically speaking he should be able to revive hashirama whenever he wants since you need dna and a sacrifice eh has his Cells and a sacrifice would be easy to get he could grab some fodder
we dont scale boruto stuff for things like this because boruto scaling is wacky as fuck, its inconsistent and all over the place, not to mention the major power cliffing the boruto series has. seth the programer has a video on why nobody scales boruto and all the flaws with boruto scaling.
@@TheMaster5059 to be fair the scaling for Naruto itself is weird
True, Orochimaru can instantly revive Hashirama, and probably others to help.
Great video Six! Thanks for the content, i have been missing it. Would really like to see some JJK content, and maybe that with a collaboration with Spencer (you guys are a great duo). Thanks for the content, and keep up the hard work king!
You should do naruto amd sasuke vs frieza. I think there are enough highballs to make it a close battle at this point.
could be interesting yea.
Can Naruto and Sasuke even beat Nappa or saiyan Vegeta lol, I remember swag or Seth made a vid about that
@@talha7032 that’s nearly a 3 year old vid my their scaling for them has changed
@@Jsipki265 Right but Sasuke is the same in scaling he’s had nothing new and I doubt baryon mode alone is enough to make Naruto carry Sasuke till Frieza level, I still doubt they could beat Saiyan nappa or Vegeta lol
@@talha7032 go watch either seth’s or king bullet vids on naruto they can easily scale them above nappa and vegeta sayian saga. The scaling to naruto have changed
War Arc Orochimaru knows Reaper Death Seal. The question is if that would work or not.
The Sannin vs Minato? Any form? That would be a good one.
Yea I plan on doing this one but it won't be for a while because I just covered the sannin here and I don't wanna bring up the same things again and again. I might do Minato vs just one of them though.
@@sixfromtokyo but doesn’t minato stomp sannin one on one lol
Probably, but Minato against all the sannin at once, it's like a suicide for Minato. They would stomp him.
@@JA-vu8my depends on which minato kcm absolutely stomps but base yeah ig he loses
@@abdulraufi6738 KCM should never be considered when having Minato in versus battles. That kind of power is for Naruto and Minato clearly stated that he only sealed the other half in himself because he thought that Kurama was too much for Naruto to control, not to mention that Kishimoto only did it for the purpose of showing Minato as a badass with his son & then he eventually gave back the other half to Naruto later in the 4th war. So really kcm should not be really considered.
Actually pains secret was that his real body was hidden close by. His weakness would be to abandon the fights with the paths and attack his real body. The paths would protect him, but he would be vulnerable. ie the real one is not among them.
Pain vs the sannin would be debatable, but Madara is in a whole other league.
Deva path is way to strong
@@too_official6194 😎
Depends what version of the characters we’re talking about
haven't watched yet but I'm certain the sannin are getting clapped
The "if Oro turned earlier Jiraiya wouldn't have died" thing could also mean Oro could talk Jiraiya into running away from Pain instead of going back and getting himself killed
The way I see it is that if orochimaru had returned, jiraiya would've felt like he accomplished something. Jiraiya's flashbacks directly show that jiraiya put all his cards on the table to beat pain simply for failing at the important stuff before, and orochimaru returning would likely put less pressure on jiraiya to risk his life to pursue pain
The sannin lost to hanzo. 🤣 granted they were younger but lord have mercy this is still a slaughter fest for the sannin
This lmao. MAYBE the sannin have a chance if Tsunade activates her seal, Jiraiya gets Madara in a frog genjutsu and Orochimaru summons the first 4 Hokage. Then they could win.
@@dejavu3914 hanzo lost his will to fight and didn’t train for a while
@@dejavu3914 didn’t say that lool I just said pain beaten a weak hanzo
I believe when they faced Hanson Jiriaya was heavily injured and couldn’t walk on his own, and Orochimaru and Tsunade were heavily fatigued when they met. So if that’s true, Hanzo isn’t really that strong.
Pain rapes hanzo imo.
I think the statement about the sannin being on the level of the gokage means that each sannin is on the level of a kage, atleast that always was how i always took it and its pretty much confirmed with feats from the manga/anime.
The scaling of the 5 Kage always seemed weird to me since the Raikage was beating KCM1 Naruto in terms of both speed and power to the point where Naruto said taking hits from the Raikage would be bad for him, implying it could really damage or incapaciate him
We know that this version of Naruto is stronger than the Sage Mode Naruto from the Pain fight, and stronger than the Sage version of himself that did most of the work in overpowering half of Kurama in his Waterfall of Truth trial.
The only Sage Naruto that's comparable to KCM1 is the War Arc Sage Naruto who had to use Sage Mode's sensory borderline precog in order to psuedo surpass KCM1's speed (more so prediction rather than being faster)
Ay is relative to the other Kage overall, but is physically the fastest and second strongest, so putting base Jiraya at that level when he's under Sage Jiraya who's under Sage Naruto from the Pain fight is weird. Same with Base Tsunade and Orochimaru. I think Hundred Healings Tsunade surpasses Jiraya in terms of AP and maybe speed due to her feats against Madara tbh
Jiraiya is objectively the weakest Sanin, by far. He doesnt compare at all to KCM Naruto. Raikage would kill Jiraiya in 10 minutes flat.
@@jasoncruz19800 jirayia wins his ninjutsu training surpassed the other 5 great nations that means including the raikage
@@jasoncruz19800 also you could use the part 1 oro n jirayia being equal n orochirmaru killing the 3rd who is stated to be he strongest out of the gokage
@@justinbarnes1818 Stop with the fanboy lying. Jiraiya has horrible feats compared to the 5 kage. Just stop. He has crappy techniques and an incomplete sagemode. Overall, Jiraiya is one of the weaker characters in Naruto Shippuden.
@@justinbarnes1818 Tsunade is leagues above Jiraiya in power, ability, and technique. Same for Orochimaru, Onoki, Gaara, and the Raikage.
Am here from Seth great vids btw
The only way the sanin have a chance is if orochimaru edo revives hashirama.
No
He would need to sacrifice someone to do that though
@@truckerbob1465umm actually yea lol
@@EchoDragonHawk umm actually no literally all he has to do is speed blitz and one tap oro ppl really think oro has the potential and ability to dodge madara one Shinra tensei folded him one planetary devastation kills him immediately plu the broad range of his fire and Woodstyle
I clicked on this video, and after 0:01 i just said *No, no they can’t even touch him*
Haven't listened to the whole vid yet but if Oro could use Edo Tensei like Kabuto in the War Arc after getting Zetsu's body I think they may beat Edo Madara high-dif.
He could have because edo hashi stalemated/ kinda binded rinnegan ems madara and oro had tobirama, Minato, and hiruzen as well.
He definitely could although the edo is scenario is not that fair although although it’d get the job done xd.
@@Dj-fb8bs Yeah because it basically adds Nagato, Itachi, the dead Akatsuki members besides Konan and Kisame, people like Dan who have intel on Madara (supposedly), etc. So it'd be interesting to see that
okay but if he wants them to be on a low enough nerfed state that they can actually contribute to the battle, he wouldn't have control over the edos. and since there's no aforementioned storyline, we can't confirm if the edo would even help them or not.
No not at all this oro argument is so bad
The edo hashi did not stalemate madara and that's a fact alive hashirama did check your lore
I think you or you and swag and seth or what ever combination should do the sannin vs pain
a better battle would be the sannin vs the gokage
Lol are you being sarcastic???
@@danielrivers1973 I think he is being serious lol
@@abdulraufi6738 im being serious lol, because the sannin are comparable to the gokage, six literally put the scans in the vidoe
@@danielrivers1973 im being serious lol, because the sannin are comparable to the gokage, six literally put the scans in the vidoe
@@stealth8457 But y does that mean as a group and y does it mean power it could just be reputation or IF it is power it could just mean 1 sannin~1 kage
Surprised this video was longer than the duration to say “No”
Honestly I would say pain could beat all these sannin by themselves
Not rlly
Honestly if he was blood u
Lusted and immediately going for the kill pain absolutely could ppl really out here only thinking the sannin tough cause of war arc oro lolo
Yeah he probably can but theres arguements for orochimaru.
paths of pain are not beating 3 sanin
@@raizodono6517 yes they are
Kabuto didn’t need glasses anymore. The glasses were the only part of his humanity he couldn’t leave behind.
Tsunade got slapped by madara
Jiraiya got slapped by one of the weak paths of pain
Orochimaru got slapped by Kirin sasuke and itachi
Conclusion: they don’t stand a chance
They got slapped by hanzo and madara would eat hanzo for breakfast
@@yunghoss5812 ong
@@yunghoss5812 Sanins weren't even called Sanins back then. But madara slaps
Hold up now, Orochimaru only got slapped by Kirin Sasuke because he was still nerfed by his encounter with Hiruzen.
But he definitely got slapped by Itachi. Multiple times.
@@zanies6288 bruh hanzo dubbed them the sannin stupid
The real life mythology and folk tales around the Sannin is really interesting too tbh.
The sannin would Cath him off guard and madara would still win
well, I mean, if we are talking about absolute full power orochimaru, he can probably solo every version of madara except juubi madara by edo tensei everyone at his disposal, which is 1st-4th hokage and 4th kazekage, maybe the 3rd kazekage as well if you take filler
He would need bodies to summon them.
The Sannin have no f***ing chance against edo-rinnegan Madara... he wins low dif...
At their Prime they win, Jiraya is a beast.
Against alive ems EMS Madara mayyyybe if they all work together and using everything they got. But rinnegan Madara- no way they can win... rinnegan Madara literally toyed with the 5 kage...
@@jonathanweigl How are they wining against Madara with perfect sousanoo, kyubii as a summon and his experience? Tsunade will heal herself, Jiraya will hit Madara with rasengan?
@@4leksandra703 I was trying to be generous... But yeah even against alive Ems they can't really do anything, I agree.
This fight is like if some mma champion went against 3 10 year old kids, guess how that would go haha.
I can see them at least trapping Madara in the frog song.
that gen jutsu relies on the speed of sound, madara is most definetly faster than sound and can easily dodge it, i mean a blind madara with his back turned was able to turn around and react to and dodge a tobirama blitz attempt while tobirama was using flying rajin (teleportation aka faster than sound movement). now that was madara with sage mode, but his ems gives roughly the same amp if not more than sage mode, so even without sage mode im confident he could pull the same stunt as long as he has ems or rinnegan. plus his sharingan would give him the ability to see the chakara forming in a particular way in the frogs vocal cords and obvisouly come to the conclusion that a gen jutsu is being cast. im not trying to suck off madara, but theres no way he would get cought in it. its one of the most powerful gen jutsu but has a major flaw in its effectiveness against speedsters like madara.
@@TheMaster5059 anyone who is ultrasonic, has sensory capabilities to see the chakra being mould, and has a brain can dodge the genjutsu. or, just throw a couple of kunai at em
No way. That's like Kurenai using genjutsu on Itachi
@@Hychra Madara isnt a frog or a frog Sage
Me before the video begins: "Madara stomps the Sannin"
Me after the video ends: "Madara stomps the Sannin"
They win if orochimaru summons Hashirama
orochimarus edo tensei is incomplete and would summon an extremely weak hashirama. hiruzin was able to take out orochimarus edo hashirama and tobirama at the same time and madara is way above hiruzin in power scaling.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about war arc edo tensei hashirama.
@@youngeyebeats6107 ahh yes, you are right. Well in that case than yes, I can see the Sanin taking the victory here.
@@youngeyebeats6107 But Orochimaru can't summon Hashirama with that power level,only that weak Hashirama that Hiruzen fought
@@rotationalshorts9104 He's talking about war arc orochimaru so yes he can
short answer: no
long answer:
Itachi > the sannin
How would they win against a character 20 times stronger
Edo tensei itachi is stronger than one Sannin, when he was alive he was weaker or on the same level, against 3 he has no chance unless tsunade gets a heart attack or something.
@@jovanyessir put all of them in a genjutsu and amaterasu. tsunade’d be lucky if itachi let him use 100 healings off the bat. if orochimaru was just hiding and reanimated the kage they’d win
@@crazybl1tz88 alive Itachi isn't soloing
@@zanies6288 fair
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Orochimaru could summon Minato, Tobirama, Hashirama, maybe the third raikage
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Everytime Oro is involved you uchiha bottom boys nerf him and forbid him from using EDO TENSEI
I sincerely doubt the Sanin could beat Madara
@@B1izzardd at that time nun of them were in they prime
@@flowzissus4113 they didn’t improve enough from that time period to even remotely challenge madara short of edo tensei from orchimaru, and then it’s not really them doing the fighting. Even with edo you could argue they don’t have any summons to beat him with the exception of hashirama who could just break out of edo.
@@B1izzardd hanzo isn’t trash
@@bcb5696 compared to madara?
@@BadKarma1608 I didn’t say compared to madara and even so he wouldn’t be trash
“Stupid imperfect TRASH sage mode” lmao WOW!!!! The Disrespect 😂
The only problem with this is. Do we give Orichimaru the ability to summon the 1st hokage? Because if so then Orchimaru could revive him closer to his full power as its not like he would have to convince him to fight Madera. If so then the Sannin win. It would also be in charater because Orichimaru brought back the First and the 2nd twice now and in part one was going to bring out the 4th but was stopped.
No cuz he's have to have a part of hashirama with him, and I don't think he just walks around with that
Bro this dude six was streaming a bleach tier list about a year ago,cancelled it and to this day never even came back to it😔
Thanks!
I wanted to watch all this, but Madara can't lose to them on his worst day. Still gave a like though
You seem like you're really good at this can't wait to here to talk about JJK.
Six I've actually been arguing this years with friends that the Sannin in their respective primes and as a team(obviously) they stand a significant chance better than even the five kage when they fought Madara
No they don't you've been wrong for years then mate
Hahaha you are just wrong man
😂😂😂they only got their nickname because they couldn’t even beat Hanzo and he let them live
The video should just be the longest yeah boyyyyy ever
The outcome was pretty clear for this one😂 Especially when you said “Edo Madara”
aye so im reading dbs manga n have this vid in the back n this music has no right bein this nice
Ion even like Naruto like that but this video was cool, good shit Six
Thx bro
For the Genjutsu point, I remember Orochimaru managing to put the 8 tails under a Genjutsu.
Madara wins clearly but just pointing that out. I also think Edo Tensei should be a part of this fight.
Edo tensei should absolutely be a part of this. Orochimaru revived tobirama hashirama and minato and hiruzen. They should be apart of this.
You're a phenomenal Naruto UA-camr bro
Love the vid. Maybe som longer ones. I love listening to this when I run and walk my dog😊
the moment six said " sound genjutsu more powerful then tsukiyomi " i know don't take anything seriously when it come to Jiraiya fact
Lets go Im ready to Hear this!!
Ok if all 5 kage couldn't beat him one of them being a sanin whats taking away 4 kage and putting in a guy who couldn't even beat the paths of pain and another guy who's as strong a old hiruzen at best gonna do
Honestly, if Madara could use all the paths of the Rinnegan (which he should be able too), it would be one hell of a pokemon battle
Thank you for not disrespecting jiraiya like the every other naruto UA-camr which I’m sick of.
I know for sure the Sannin have no chance against any Madara , but people keep saying jiraiya ain’t much because he got killed by pain.
People don’t realize what a massive disadvantage the fight against pain was for jiraiya , first of all its more than likely that nagato knew how jiraiya fights since he was his teacher which might be Little or a lot of knowledge either way it’s a disadvantage
The terrain where they fought was one hundred percent controlled by nagato because he knows the ins and outs of the village and most likely since he lives there the six pains were at full strength aka much stronger than when he arrived at konoha , plus him absolutely taking advantage of the fact that jiraiya is confused about his identity and can jump him at any moment
A direct confrontation still would lead jiraiya to die most times if he wasn’t prepared and didn’t know about nagato’s secret , but given the worst circumstances imaginable for him and he still took out three paths of pain is still insane for him to accomplish.
Love your channel man. Keep up the great work.
I'd love to see a Might Guy Vs Sauske (at what point in the story does Sauske or Guy beat the other? Does 5 kage summit Sauske beat 7th or even 6th gate Guy? Could EMS or Rinnegan Sauske beat 8th gate Guy?)
Madara U. and Kane (WWF/WWE) are just as pessimistic about humanity as each other, and yet they both pointed out the bitter truth quite accurately.
Ayo I know it’s out of context but I have a theory: my theory is that Sarada’s Mangekyou ability will be based on greek mythology instead of japanese mythology, specifically the god Hermes but could also be based on the god wind fujin. I think she’ll be able to slow or speed herself up with her right eye and then it’ll be like Flash where she moves normal but other things around her is slowed down and with her left eye she can slow or speed up other things/objects. That way she would be the fastest shinobi ever and she’ll be able to keep up with Boruto and Kawaki so she wont be left out like sakura.
I can understand why this video is a thing, especially with Jiraiya and Orochimaru. They bring a bigger arsenal[technique diversity] to the table in my opinion than the other Kage. aside from Ohnoki[particle style] and Gaara the rest are no big deal skill wise. Individually.
Madara wins no diff to low diff
rather than vs madara which is obvious stomp, i would like to see 3 prime sanin vs hanzo rematch
I think if prime Sannin means even one of them could stomp Hanzo cz when they faced him,they weren't at their prime at all
@@DS-dw3pz also the three sanins would already know hanzo abilities while hanzo wouldnt know that jiraiya can go sage mode, Tsunade with byakugou seal and orochimaru is basically immortal
Madara vs Isshiki sounds like it would be a great battle. You should that one next; I’m very curious to hear your opinion
Madara just swiftly takes Orochinarus soul after swatting Jiraiya away and sending a clone or 2 after Tsunade