Why Gojo VS Goku Is NOT Close
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
- In this video, I go over Gojo Satoru from Jujutsu Kaisen and put him against Son Goku from Dragon Ball Super. Can Goku in Ultra Instinct break through Limitless? Would Infinite Void work on him? Just how strong is Gojo anyway, how do his moves even work? I go over this and much more, including a debate about Kid Buu vs Jujutsu Kaisen. Enjoy.
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The Goat is finally back!!!
Yes do over ?¿
Nice
😂😂😂I can't believe this!!!
The fact that this is even a conversation is absolutely crazy, which proves that most enemy fandom to put fights together don’t even watch each other’s respective series.
Yeah like I really like both animes jujutsu is one of my favorite modern day shows but come on like it's been shown so many times in Dragonball itself that hax doesn't mean anything when you are vastly stronger just look at buu vs vegitio buu warped reality to make him inanimate object yet he could still move cause he was just to strong and the difference in stats is far wider than that fight
@@AlphaAbyss_these hax are not on the same level, though. Can we stop sucking Dragon Balls dick for one second and think about how each person’s abilities work.
goku dies because he's pathethic, cope dbtard
Also comparing two characters in fight from two different verse is absolutely dumb because its not the same verse thus not the same laws, as in the different power systems like cursed energy and whatever is on DBZ verse, i could say that gojo will never die to goku because he has no way of countering his infinity and also once gojo hit his DE goku's dead because his brain would be overflowing with information constantly and gojo can purple the sh!t out of him. On the other side someone who watched the whole DBZ series (not me lol) could say goku will one shot gojo because "____" ... And so on... A good way to know who would win is if Gege and the guy who made DBZ made a crossover in which they fight even tho both verses are extremely different
fr 💀 goku could just blow up the planet and ggs
The most glazed in history vs. The most glazed of today
Your dumb lol, this is why u have goofy friends lol
Goku is legitimately him tho.
goku isnt winning this fight
@@Honored_Mootje keep talking gojotard goku soloes the verse2
💀💀
Well Goku's ability's work off a "energy system" which is basically just he has a bunch of energy and shoots it in a beam, which is completely different from Gojo's universe where Gojo's abilities work off a physics system that is actually explained. In a broad overview it can look like a "he is strong" description vs a "he is strong because his abilities work like this" description. Firstly, Gojo's infinity slows things down as they get closer, doesn't matter that Goku can travel multiple times the speed of light, it is still a numeric speed and can be divided by 2 until its infinitesimally small. And now the main attacks, Goku's abilities mainly consist of Ki energy being put into some sort of projectile and fired and whoever puts the most energy in can over power the other. Meanwhile, specifically hollow purple, is an ability that is explained through the physics of the jujutsu universe that it erases all matter. These abilities are very far apart in their relation as, for example, a kamehameha is a large amount of energy, and energy is heat, so its affects on other objects are vaporization, so it just turns it to gaseous form. But hollow purple on the other hand mixes the abilities blue and red, which work by creating impossible scenarios that the world must fix like negative existences and the other doing the opposite, to make a destructive force that instead of vaporizing, basically deletes crossing the law of conservation of mass. This can be illustrated as if a Hollow purple was fired at Goku and a kamehameha was fired at Gojo and these two forces collided, it would look like the hollow purple is effortlessly moving through the kamehameha with no resistance. Because, as stated before they aren't the same type of attack and when one object has the power to essentially "delete" it and the kamehame ha has no impact on it simply because it consists of ki, or energy and this can just be deleted by the hollow purple. Another aspect is that Gojo has his domain which can overflow Goku's mind because as we all know the theme around Goku is that he is stupid. This will disable him and Gojo can just do the rest as he now has a essentially brain dead body in his domain. Now to all the people who would state, "no way, he is Goku he will find a way to overcome this" or whatever, no he will not because there is a difference between powers that work on a stat system and those that work on an "absolute" scale.
It's wild how often a new anime with an overpowered guy gets made, then the entire fandom immediately tries to make them fight Goku for some reason
Glazers bro these new anime nerds are definitely different especially the Dbz ones. Just as bad as one piece fans. Can’t ever stop comparing animes.
Overpowered for your verse doesn't mean overpowered overall.
An gorilla can kick an untrained and unarmed human's ass, but it sure won't touch someone like Gojo.
Because..
Goku... is kinda that guy.. or the standard or a bar of sorts for people to compare their favorites too due to how busted and op he is (Not glazing)
@@nocomment6012 That, and DBZ is popular enough that Goku is well known by many, even most people that haven't seen DBZ, or anime at all. And most people are well aware of how powerful DBZ characters are, without knowing the little details.
It makes him the perfect default to compare to. People know of him, and that he's really strong.
But without knowing the little bitty details, you end up with mach 3 boy with busted power for his verse fighting literal god with infinite speed and strong enough to punch timespace like glass. Just a little bit mismatched due to ignorance, I'd say!
Good thing I like That time I got reincarnated as a slime
Why Seth Vs. The Allegations isn't close
Yeah I think he beat them
Bruh what
@@callmeunknown how?
@@Aryan_H1 them being bullshit, and debunking it with numerous videos.
@@kazekami5513 cap
“Stand proud gojo you made me use 1% of my power”
0.5%
0.000001
It's technically an infitesimal percentile goku is infinitely more powerful than Gojo 🤓
@@badprofilepic882Goku would still have to use that infinite power. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to get through limitless.
@@T.Gundham he could just use his infinite speed or do what gotenks did and scream at Gojo's infinity to get rid of it.
Its also interesting to think about how UI would interact within the infinite void, seeing as the only reason you can't move is because you can't control your body due to the infinite information flooding into your brain. UI being a "autonomous" suggests his body would still react even unconsciously like in the beerus ssj3 fight.
I think if it like the one scene where doctor strange knocked out spider-mans soul and spider-mans body keept doding even without a soul
@@Saikyo-no-Fusion-dayeah lol
in UI your body moves independently from the brain, making your body move instantaneously compared to when the brain moves the body
Great comment, I never thought of that till now.
You can move it’s just infinitely slow
To quote the Yu Yu Hakusho entry of the TFS Cell Games: "And which one of you can blow up a planet?"
I just proved gojo beats goku
@@I_H_M_NGoku slams
@@I_H_M_N Oh brother not this guy again
@@Imaginelikingdough oh kid keep crying
@@I_H_M_N Hmm too fast anything that you don't agree with you will just nothing and just insult the person that is more childish than anything someone could say.
Why Seth VS Minors Is NOT Close
What
@@SDS_524 the allegations
I just proved gojo beats goku
Cope harder lol
@@I_H_M_N you are wrong.
One interesting thing to note is the fact that Goku can force himself foward in time, he did in his original fight with Hit
He was predicting what Hit would do, the dub line from King Kai you're talking about was a bad translation
@@Supreme_Court.yea true but if we base it off the anime he does proceed to just straight up break through time with a power up when they fight for the second time so I guess his statement still stands kinda
@@VXception You mean breaking Hit's little pocket dimension? That's just because of him being far above Hit's level of power, not breaking time in general
That's true but wouldn't that just be hax resistance? Thus Goku should be able to resist whatever Gojo throws at him because of the IMMENSE difference in strength/raw power?@@Supreme_Court.
@@k1ng_s1asher70 Except hax simply not working due to a different in raw power is a rule in Dragon Ball, not in JJK
I just cant imagine gojo capable of going against goku lol
Exactly there is no way Gojo can beat Goku even Gojo six eyes and his infinity and his infinit void are all useless Goku in his base form is stronger than almost every character in jjk don't get me wrong I like Gojo but there is no way gojo doing anything to Goku in his base form it's overkill if goku went mui seriously lol
@@richardmccormick8687everyone knows goku is stronger then gojo lol. It’s just his difficult hax to get through. Not to mention unlimted void thst bypass durability and turns him into a fish which then where gojo can finish him off with hollow purple. Or his bare hands.
@@touka6589wouldn't hollow purple work like a hakai?
@@touka6589 hollow purple would do absolutely nothing Goku already Tanked a way stronger Version of
Hollow Purple
@@touka6589gotenks open a dimension portal by screaming and gojo defeated by slashing the dimension itself and base goku is millions times stronger than gotenks so base goku could easily fucked the infinity
WE DIDNT FORGET
Allegations?
Seth vs Allegations, who wins?
@@The.Honoured.2
Lmao that pfp
@@The.Honoured.2 i love your pfp 😂
Idk if they were real or not but i think he beat them considering even on this video, a majority of comments are about the video and not the allegations@Dexuz
What a lot of people fail to take into account is the question of which power system takes precedence in the fight. If it's dragon ball's power system, then limitless is useless. Because in dragon ball, literally any hax (such as things like limitless) can be canceled out and ignored by someone with a large enough power difference. This was displayed when Jiren broke through time skip, and the fact that anyone with enough energy control can resist or ignore the hakai. A move that LITERALLY ERASES YOU FROM TIME AND SPACE, SOUL AND ALL. (Sounds to me like Hollow Purple, but better.)
On the argument of the infinite void. If goku was inside the domain and went MUI, couldn't his body react on his own despite his mind being overloaded by infinite infinities?
infinite stimuli is the opposite of thoughtlessness. mui shouldnt work because the brain should be stuttering in general, not just having inner monologues
@@egorapter tbf UI us separate from the nervous system altogether
it physically cannot be, the nervous system controls the muscles. UI is just seperating the nervous system from the user's conciousness@@mementomori3665
@@egoraptermui works by having Goku move without HAVING TO THINK not without thinking
in mui Goku can move and attack with whatevers on his mind
@@nonenoneguythought to elaborate but might let you know Ui is literally self movement, a state of being as you would. Your body moves through instinct not to say it would or wouldn’t work against infinite void thought I’d just clarify.
Can’t wait to see who he grooms in this season
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Expected more comments about this tbh. Surpisingly people are just talking about the actual video as normal.
@@philipariel3730he has to be deleting all the comments talking about what happened because nobody forgot
Huh? Who?
@@ganymede4030 Gojo bro. The allegations bypassed his infinity.
Bro scaled above and beat the allegations damn
he didn't beat them he just didnt give af
w pfp
@@Nightreavarr ty
goku dies because he's pathethic, cope dbtard
@@NobleSavvyhe literally made a whole ass 3 hour video explaining it but deleted it
Gojo is hopeless in this fight.
- Goku has space-distortion feats
- Goku has UI and MUI
- Gojo lost to sukuna ft mahoraga with only little AP, Goku’s ki blasts can cause WAY much more damage
- Gojo can’t deal with Goku’s attacks
- Gojo uses domain, he only stuns Goku (if not in UI and MUI), he ISNT pulling off Goku’s head ☠️
- Goku has moved in Hit’s (A better time stopper) Time-skip
- Gojo would just run out of options
The closest character to beat Goku in jjk is Yuta (if he can copy hakai, but he probably wouldn’t even master it), and this fight Yuta has like a 0.5% chance to win.
Yuta doesn’t stand a chance. Goku has already resisted HAKAI.
fr
if it was Vegeta he probably would not take any time fighting as he usually gets right to the point
You know the only reason sukana was able to even touch Goku through infinity was domain expansion, goku has nothing really to touch gojo and gojo can’t really touch goku either. It’s a stalemate.
Didn't Goku resist hakai?
22:08 in my opinion, since in the manga Goku was knocked out by Moro and yet his body still fought on his own plus casting a MUI Susano around himself, I don’t really think the Domain would be a insta win on him, once unconscious the MUI would instantly go for the win
his DE stops you from being able to move entierly, its different from being knocked out, it overloads the brain with infinite information, I dont think mui would work, but it does act on its own so idk maybe
@Alanford1973 mui literally means the body moves on its own. The brain has no implication that point. Sure gokus brain will be fried but currently in the manga goku has a good grasp on ultra instinct, so if he does get caught in the DE it won't mean anything if he's in UI
@@zed4492 but maybe after goku win, he will die because the domain expansion?
@@Bim-nx3eono likely due to how fast current TUI goku is, there’s also a small time frame and allows regulars to be in healthy condition after being in gojo de
@@Alanford1973 ultra instinct doesnt use the brain to function.
Goku: Punches
Gojo: has infinity shattered, meets geto in the airport
Geto: How was son Goku?
Gojo: Too strong and he was not giving his all
The thing about Limitless is that it acts on an atomical level, so anything that goes beyond said spectrum is not going to trigger the spatial distortion. In this case, anything that move faster than what atoms can possibly move, will bypass infinity easily as it has no way of reacting to something outside it's scope.
As a DBZ fan, I can honestly admit that hax immunity is literally based on the plot. Immune to Boss Carrot's touch one minute, weak to Morrow's magic the next.
imagine power scaling 💀💀
Goku is pretty much plot.
Power scaling is about analyzing the plot lol
Gojo solos verse since infinity is not form Change
while i agree with you i dont agree with the reasoning
If gojo casts domain on mui goku that will be an instant loss for gojo
-Mui will act on its own and does not require any thought process
-Mui does not just avoid and defend is also automatically counterattacks
-While using domain gojo can't use curse techniques including limitless, which is his only defense against Goku
MUI bruh that's to much MUI only needed if the opponent is multiple galaxy😅. If he pass kaoken I will be surprised 😂
@@jaysonj9207 Frrrr
@@jaysonj9207it’s not a power thing. Infinite void kills you by overloading your brain with information. MUI turns your brain off
Correction
You seem to be under the thought that since mui doesn't require thought, infinite void wouldn't work. Let me correct you.
Infinite void overloads your brain to such an extent, it paralyses your body. The Brain is still needed for reflexive actions, nerves send signals to your brain, which instinctively gives feedback to move your body, but if your brain literally cannot process or interact with any stimuli from anywhere, since it's I b overloaded then, mui won't matter, since goku still needs a brain even if its not taking in his conscious decisions.
In short, void fries your brain, a fried brain can't give a body any input anymore, your body needs a brain to function. Mui will shut down
@@thespectre01that seem plausible but with your same logic, you could cut off a lizard tail but it’s tail will still be moving with no brain connection. MUI is the same way in simpler terms.
This is a very touchy topic 😂😂
@set If you need to manipulate space time to hit gojo do you think 8 gates gai would be able to hit him?
They said he would not rise again, but he infact did rise. Comeback arc begins now!
Hopefully he can make content and stay out of drama this time 🔥
Bro has them notifications ready when he sees seth upload XD
The meat riding is insane
Bro bouta go bench on some actual blackhole unlike midtama, Seth the real OPM.
@@RSuave545😭
Damn he actually returned unlike gojo 😅
W comment
Never left he's been streaming on his other channel and has been somewhat active on X
@@lordzcy6777what’s his username on x
@@lordzcy6777what’s his other channel
@@DirectedByCreepin Seth
In MUI, Goku's body can move without his brain telling him. Therefore in MUI, Goku would be able to fight even in Gojo's domain.
UV wouldn't work.
Whis describes Ultra Instinct in chapter 40 as;
“It's an ultimate technique that severs the consciousness from the body in order to allow the body to subconsciously move it to even attack and evade. It's called 'Ultra Instinct'.”
And we’ve seen Goku enter that “state” after being defeated (read: he's unconscious / unable to react anymore).
Since its literally the body entering some hyper active “survival mode” (at least how Goku uses it often enough) id argue that Gojoro’s void with infinite information wouldn't matter. Goku’s body doesn't need his brain working to move; and honestly its likely that “removing” goku’s consciousness from the equation (and thus his good nature), would cause his body to probably respond to any attack at full power, which would clearly just cause Gojoro to explode.
So yea. UI, on a guy who can move and fight on other planes of existence, is just broken AF.
If you take the rate of information transferred by infinite void (6 months/0.2 seconds) and then you take Goku's perception of time into account, then it may be the case that the raw information Goku receives from infinite void every second is no different and possibly even less than the raw information a normal person receives every second. Goku's perception of time would essentially mean that relative to people far slower than him, he would be receiving less of the information at a time since his brain is just processing the oncoming information slower than it would be able to affect him (I hope this makes sense.)
from what i'm getting at you are just saying goku is faster than the rate of information transferred by infinite void which yeah would make sense
@@silverfish7193 this makes sense because all the fights in dragon ball are really fast goku can take in information coming to him at light speed in all his fights. not to mention ui.
@@giovannichavez1437 So basically infinite void is giving Goku's overworked brain and senses a break. Truly one of the Goku moments of all time
U forgot that goku can predict his opponents movements in 0.1 seconds which he can able to activate his ui technique.
you forgot the UI makes it so that goku doesn’t think
I’m imagining if goku got hit by Infinite Void it would be a similar situation in Spider-Man No Way Home. Where Peter’s soul what literally ripped out of his body yet his body still protected him through his spider sense moving his body.
The problem I see with hax fights like this is it eventually gets to the point where it’s near or just straight up completely impossible to tell how their abilities will interact. They exist in two different universes with two different sets of rules to their “magic” systems. It’s the same reason why the Gojo vs Makima debate gets argued in circles.
It’s fun to speculate tho.
Goku could just blow up the entire planet where Gojo lives though, so can we really call it a fight? If we're comparing max power then it's not even close. If we make it Vegeta it's over in a blink of an eye, he wouldn't hesitate to blow up the planet to kill a threat like Gojo if he had to
@@glenndiddyI mean the problem with that is Goku needs to breath oxygen just like any other person. So thats out of the question.
@@riza4086 I mean Goku could just instant transmission away.
@@NinthYard very, very much true.
@@riza4086 "Saiyan's can't survive in the vacuum of space" panel was basically retconned by BoG. After transforming into God, Goku was fine in space, and when he absorbed it into his base form he was fine in super saiyan
Gojo vs. anyone reminds me of Sakuya vs. anyone, these two rarely lose unless you have some form of hax that bypass infinity/infinite time stop, if the challenger doesn't have the hax required they'll either lose or it'll devolve into a infinite stalemate.
The allegations: “Nah, I’d win”
Seth: “Stand proud allegations, you were strong”
Seth: "You did well, allegations. I won't forget you for as long as I live"
@@Wheebzeebro ran into hiding from the allegations on his alts to recoupe his strength
@@Wheebzeehm
Peak comment 😂
Seth The Goatgrammer vs Fraudlegations
14:34 honestly I think that’s because of domain amplification, we’ve already seen sukuna use it to survive red, would stand to reason that he would use it to survive purple too
This was absolutely amazing. Subbed!
Keeping in the spirit of how the characters would actual act I think it would be a pretty quick fight. Gojo, realizing the gap in power, would immediately activate his domain to hit Goku with Infinite Void, which would succeed. Because Goku is usually the type to let things happen and let his opponents charge up, I think that even if he perceived it as an attack he would let it happen.
Once under the effects of Infinite Void Goku would be unable to think or use his brain to move his body, in that moment Gojo charges up the biggest Hollow Purple he's ever attempted and is about to launch it point blank at Goku for max dmg.
Goku immediately enters Ultra Instinct and charges up his power levels, the resulting wave of Goku's energy would pop Hollow Purple and turn Gojo to ash on contact, the end.
Goku would manipulate him with just his speed and disappearance, not to mention Goku would just toy with him just to test his strength and power, he would only use his full potential if necessary. Gojo truthfully is not much of a threat.
Well Goku's ability's work off a "energy system" which is basically just he has a bunch of energy and shoots it in a beam, which is completely different from Gojo's universe where Gojo's abilities work off a physics system that is actually explained. In a broad overview it can look like a "he is strong" description vs a "he is strong because his abilities work like this" description. Firstly, Gojo's infinity slows things down as they get closer, doesn't matter that Goku can travel multiple times the speed of light, it is still a numeric speed and can be divided by 2 until its infinitesimally small. And now the main attacks, Goku's abilities mainly consist of Ki energy being put into some sort of projectile and fired and whoever puts the most energy in can over power the other. Meanwhile, specifically hollow purple, is an ability that is explained through the physics of the jujutsu universe that it erases all matter. These abilities are very far apart in their relation as, for example, a kamehameha is a large amount of energy, and energy is heat, so its affects on other objects are vaporization, so it just turns it to gaseous form. But hollow purple on the other hand mixes the abilities blue and red, which work by creating impossible scenarios that the world must fix like negative existences and the other doing the opposite, to make a destructive force that instead of vaporizing, basically deletes crossing the law of conservation of mass. This can be illustrated as if a Hollow purple was fired at Goku and a kamehameha was fired at Gojo and these two forces collided, it would look like the hollow purple is effortlessly moving through the kamehameha with no resistance. Because, as stated before they aren't the same type of attack and when one object has the power to essentially "delete" it and the kamehame ha has no impact on it simply because it consists of ki, or energy and this can just be deleted by the hollow purple. Another aspect is that Gojo has his domain which can overflow Goku's mind because as we all know the theme around Goku is that he is stupid. This will disable him and Gojo can just do the rest as he now has a essentially brain dead body in his domain. Now to all the people who would state, "no way, he is Goku he will find a way to overcome this" or whatever, no he will not because there is a difference between powers that work on a stat system and those that work on an "absolute" scale.
@@Lobnissgoku can literaly break trhough dimensions space and time with one punch while not at full power. gojo cant do shit to defend that lol. And ultra instinct literaly makes his infinite domain useless since his body will fight and defend without any thought. gg man no matter how much you try reaching its just impossible for gojo to beat goku.
@@robyfaraa4105 proof? For destroying space and time with a single punch any feat? The kamehameha is a energy wave as long it is a energy wave or any ki blast they can't destroy a all destroying black hole on steroids a hollow purple is antimatter or anti energy it neutralises any and all forms of energy no matter how much it is and Goku has 0 feats for traveling a infinites amount space in finite time and if he come to punch gojo he will be locked in space due to its infinity and then a domain expansion or a hollow purple to finish the job
@@robyfaraa4105 ultra instinct is only activated in a absolute calm state of mind in gojo's domain it's impossible to maintain that lol infinite knowledge flowing through you even ultra instinct can't save you from that
@@Lobniss proof????????????? did you even watch the video HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA. bro why are you even trying when you dont even know what goku can do hahahahahhahahaha. We legit see it happen in broly movie which was shown in this video. you have lost all credibility right here. im sorry man but theres no use trying to prove your wrong take.
HE OUTSCALED THE ALLEGATIONS 🗣️🔥💯
just stop it man its been past
stop it bro give some respect
He did NOT do dat shit
Bro still got blitzed by the allegations
@@user-vm7qs6mm3c bro it’s not that deep gojo is literal pixels he is not real fam 🙏😭
@@montyx2333yes he did. Literally admitted to it
we not gonna forgot about the poop thing bro
Wait wdym I keep hearing this is it a joke?
@@AntipathyEdits he made someone in his discord like poop and eat it or something it was very gross, Seth acts odd. Not gonna say he’s a bad dude idk him but he’s off
@@nothinginhiding ohh alright
Yo, who does the audio for your videos? The anime OST integration, I mean. Cause they're talented.
Nothing would work against Goku he would punch through infinity
He would tank the hollow purple just by his ki pressure
And he would break Gojo's domain barrier just by powering up
I don't know what the debate is even about
Exactly from what I understand all gojos infinity does is create infinite space between him and whatever could damage him and Goku has traveled across infinite distance in finite time meaning Goku can just speed blitz gojo and punch through his infinity
@@Nathan24634 lmaoo
@@Nathan24634its just fancy words to give their favorite characters a chance 😂😂😂😂
@@marketingjames2718fancy words? This is literally how scaling works
"Gokus mind gets overloaded?" MUI finna make gojo pray today
Question: If goku can move around care free in a void that was created by Zeno destroying the universe,doesnt that mean goku can fight spaces with no air since the void doesnt have any air,so that would debunk goku needing air to fight
We never see Goku die from lack of air, he can hold his breath for some time, and the migatte or red god transformation, must have some special ability to breathe in space.
Base future trunks was also in that destroyed timeline, stop reaching for a feat that ain’t there. There was clearly no intent for that to be a feat showing anything, especially when saiyans have ALWAYS been stated to need air to breathe, even by Whis himself
@@jimjamjon2285I think trunks was still actually in the time machine when the conversation was happening so it’s wouldn’t actually discredit the feat
@@jimjamjon2285 obviously there are alot of statements from characters saying they cant breathe in space,i waz just asking if this could be a counter arguement to that, and how does trunks affect this feat,even if it was valid trunks by the end of that arc was reaching into the "God" tier type power anyways
@@Kam1046 my guy, reaching “god” tiers of power means NOTHING when ssjb vegeta was stated by whis himself to not be able to survive in a vacuum. This isn’t a debate. Stop.
21:18 This is a really good point because this is kind of a high dose psychedelic exerpience. Who ever had such an experience before knows that the own perception can feel like time and space are all displaced, everthing is one and infinitly looping and you don't know where you are or if you'll ever come back out of this loop. In such a mental state willpower doesn't work because your perception is just so displaced and you can't fight it because the substance is litterly inside your body. But if Goku himself is a being that is capable of dimensions that are outside of our universe he may not even care about that because he perceives things on a whole other level anyway.
RIP Akira Toriyama, Goku will always be the GOAT.
How strong is Post Timeskip Seth?
hes advanced in all 3 types of haki with the magma fruit so he might be stronger than prime roger
He beat the almighty allegations. For context, allegations can no dif someone in every reality timeline or space time dimension. They effectively transcend too concepts of space and time. Putting him at high outer as he beat a primordial concept that has never known defeat too any other concept
Wait how did he beat them@@DefonotMax
@@AbnormalLuckyGuy not sure tbh. I think people just let it go. The pinned comment is "do over" so do what you will with that
i would be open to the idea of Goku being susceptible to limitless information but i always assumed Goku surviving things like ribriannes many black holes implies he would just disallow the info to penetrate his brain.
edit: y'all in the replies if it means anything i meant the fact that goku deals with levels of infinity on the daily easy example like the singularity of black holes
The thought of goku just saying "nuh uh" to infinite information is hilarious
@@blazeingsonicthegod8417 that would be the most Goku shit ever lol.
Yeah but that…isn’t logical. What? That’s just applying your own headcancon to how things would work in reality. The fuck is with Goku fans
@@GDKF0238gotta agree with u here, black holes have nothing to do with limitless information being streamlined to your brain
@@GDKF0238i don’t think Goku is smart enough to process that there even is new information. I bet if you could see his brain it’d look like Homer Simpson’s.
He took a severe personality shifting head injury as a baby. Plus he’s an alien.
For all we know it could hurt Gojo to try it on a nonhuman mind.
Hey, great video! Listening to you trying to come up with even a sliver of a chance for Gojo is peak entertainment lol. Thank you for approaching this stomp with an open mind.
Just a couple notes:
Kenjaku is able to resist the effects of Yuki’s CT because he had a counter technique on top of the influence of Tengen’s barrier, not necessarily due to a lack of AP. Since the attack is said to be planetary, and the most we ever see from Gojo is his roughly city-scale destruction in Shinjuku, I’d say it’s pretty clear cut that Yuki does actually have more raw destructive power than Gojo.
We do actually see Sukuna tank 200% hollow purple, he just reaches out and stops it with his hands. Maybe he was only able to do that because of some hidden knowledge or CE, but all we know is that he reached out his hands and stopped it. Sure he had to use RCT to heal afterwards but to me this pretty clearly implies that Hollow Purple can be stopped given it meets an opponent with enough durability/absorptive capacity/raw strength/counter power (or whatever) to endure it. Given how laughable the comparison of physical stats is between these universes, I’d bet almost any amount of money that Goku laughs off Hollow Purple, even if he is hit with it directly, and even ignoring Goku’s implicit multidimensionality.
Just a small caveat, but I wouldn’t really describe Gojo’s spatial manipulation as “precise,” it seems more like he applies blanket rules to a subset of space that is predetermined but generally quite large. I don’t think we have seen anything that implies he is doing work on a microscopic or atomic scale, which is what “precise” connotate (at least for me) when talking about spatial manipulation.
Realistically, this fight is such a one sided stomp, that even if you wanted to say Gojo’s Limitless is impenetrable to Goku, and UV one shots Goku 10 times out of 10… the fact is that Goku speed blitzes Gojo to the degree that if lil bro even started to put the hand sign together for domain expansion, Goku would be able to crush his head simply in the time between Gojo disbanding his technique (a requirement for DE IIRC) and expanding his domain. There is absolutely 0 argument that any version or interpretation of Gojo could even come slightly close to beginning to be a worthy opponent for Goku.
Does Gojo just Die to light based attacks? Because even if it takes awhile, the light will eventually get there once he has to attack?
Regarding the infinite void topic, UI is a technique that separates the mind from the body basically putting your body on autopilot. If Goku ended up tapping into UI, Goku would still be able to fight since despite his brain being overloaded with information, it isn’t like it really matters since he’s not using it in the first place, it is called Ultra Instinct for a reason. (Plus the fact Goku ever since T.o.P has gotten even better at his control over UI to the point where he may eventually just naturally be in the state at all times like the angels, which certainly isn’t helping Gojo’s case)
UI isn’t some magic technique that makes his soul pilot his body or something. His body simply moves to fight in the most optimal way based off of basically muscle memory without him having to actively think about his moves. His brain still has to send signals to his muscles to move, which he can’t do if Unlimited Void fries it into mush with the concept of literal infinite information being jammed into it.
@@cbthree1778that's wrong bruh
What you're talking about is what UI sign does, Whis explained that in the fight vs Kefla
@@cbthree1778 Gojo literally can't land an attack if Goku is on Guard 😂
@@blessingschanda1728 That’s not what I said. Read again. I debunked that UI doesn’t work if your brain is fried into mush since it still has to send signals to your muscles for you to move. I didn’t say Gojo could tag Goku outside of domain without Goku letting him, and yes if Goku for some reason let Gojo use domain the fight would just end. It automatically targets everyone inside the space no matter what, regardless of evasion speed, and he’d get his brain turned to mush. If both are in character too then Goku would probably even let him do it despite having enough raw power to kill Gojo by sneezing.
@@cbthree1778 I clearly said on Guard 😅 and domain expansion was negated by Sukuna.
It's literally been thrown around as and end game in Gojos Vs battles..
Seth
Revisit Kakashi vs Gojo now that we know the full extent of Gojo's abilities
Kakashi would win if we're talking kamui kakashi dude has sharingan and his op Ms ability and duel Ms kakashi would decimate
King kai : when you fought against hit, you were not only guessing his moves you were forcing yourself to go to future arent you?
Let's not forget that the barriers that surround most Domain Expansions, including Unlimited Void, are not indestructible. Sukuna was able to break it from the outside, and sure, it was less durable on the outside, but that still implies that the inside is possible to break as well. Considering Goku's feats of destructive power, anything short of universe level durability would be child's play to deal with.
I can see the interaction going something like this: Gojo activates Unlimited Void, Goku's brain is overloaded with information, UI kicks in, destroys the domain from the inside with a basic ki blast or air pressure punch, and finishes Gojo off. If you want to argue that Goku can't bypass Infinity, then in this situation he could probably just kill Gojo before he can heal his cursed technique burnout anyways. Either way, Gojo using his domain would really just be a death sentence.
Definitely not even close, it was just some stupid fanbases that overhypering the character's power and abilities to the point that they decide to debate against strong character like Goku for no reason.
It was almost annoying as how people tried to compare Luffy to Goku. 🙄
I think the greatest evidence of things being able to just overpower hollow purple, is the fact that gojo couldn't even destroy sukunas fingers or his grave wax. Which is really weird
The thing about Gojo is that he can destroy anything except things he can't. If something can be destroyed, he can do it. If not (like Sukuna's finger) then he simply can't.
@@zXMorph I mean... he also couldn't destroy sukuna
@@yspy_1801bro had 10s
@yspu_1801 Because Sukuna is different. Sukuna specifically couldn’t be destroyed as a cured object or in the flesh he’s just that strong.
@@TicToc_40 he couldn’t be destroyed because of a binding vow dawg
What the fuck is gojo gonna do to a guy who can move several 1000 times light speed? Like how would he even know he was attacked
Haha agreed these idiots are out of their minds
How do you still have a platform
last thing gojo and the jjk verse will hear is wolf fang fist
hahaha
This video is amazing. I always get confused on how people can say "Gojo beats Goku neg diff" without evidence. This actually explains a lot, including the stuff about the JJK verse that I didnt understand. Now I can actually tell people to watch this video instead of explaining it myself.
The only question on this battle is if Goku is able to hit Gojo through limitless, if he can, he wins, otherwise, its a tie. But this video also explains Goku's...lots of hax, so more than likely he can.
Oh shit no way, i thought u was gone gone. Well hopefully things change I do believe in second chances and that people can change.
On a much simpler note, Gojo states that attacks imbued with domain amplification could reach him, and even mess with the sure hit effect of the domain expansions, if you apply verse similarities that'd be equal to bdz characters cloaking their bodies with ki, or Naruto characters cloaking in chakra. So yeah, they're hitting him.
I don't really think so because cursed energy itself is negative energy,
So negative whoever doesn't have it gets negative effects on their bodies,
Ki and chakra aren't exactly negative
domain amplification is as it sounds, covering your body with your domain. It's not just a cloak of cursed energy. Goku doesn't have an internal domain, therefore nothing he has is similar to domain amplification
@@law6800 yeah but also im pretty sure that everyone has an innate domain, where as domain expansion is the ability to manifest your innate domain on to the world. Who's to say goku doesn't have an innate domain? an innate domain is literally the landscape of ones mind / soul
That makes no sense tho, minus not ce 😂
bro gogeta puched so hard that he broke the realms of the present Dimension, i dont understand why any of this is even a debate since we all know only the caped baldy can beat goku at this point@@law6800
Goku would cook Gojo 😂
Exactly can’t believe this still a debate
Purple hollow kill goku
d@@themanbehindtheslaughter2678 didnt even kill sukuna so it wouldnt even leave a scratch on goku
@@The_Rizzilantes how is purple touching goku you know purple can be dodge right? purple is not even that fast lmao
@@The_Rizzilantes exactly
"Hey i heard your pretty strong, gojo."
Here is my interpretation. One jjk is not that constistent and things don't work as they should because math is hard. Two in an interest turn of events infinite information would actually be infinite power but thats just something difficult to explain and i can't really explian it since apparently it does have a mathematical explanation. Three fun fact manipulating space time would mean that gojo has infinite procesing power that would actually make him able to see the future. and finally it doesn't really matter because if i learned something is that goku can just scream really loud and win because angry man screaming can beat all the laws of math and physics
basically goku wins because goku can comprehend the amount of time hit time skips and negates it basically goku is mahoraga of the db universe well broly is but ye he adapts to things very quickly and as soon as goku adapts to infinite void when ever that may be i dont think gojo can win because gojo doesnt expect people to break through his domain expansion
Curiously, Gojo has already dealt with people who Break his Domain
@@yeikelamores6085lmao if goku breaks gojos domain it’s over with the. Fight is done goku wins gojo dies simple as that , this isnt even a debate goku way
powerful than gojo could ever be
@@YrGsoul you cant destroy something while standing still
@@yeikelamores6085those people where not Goku. So if people can break throught how can you tell Goku would not learn how to do it, while it took him only months to master a teleportation skill?
@@ElJags I never said Goku couldn't destroy the domain,Absolutely can, I'm just clarifying that Gojo has already dealt with people who destroyed his domain
Gojo can get beaten by people who don't even casually destroy planets in his own universe. He'd be a gimmick villain in DB original at most.
A gimmick villain 😹😹😹
Before I keep watching the vid and stuff, WHAT is the NAME is the SONG that plays in the BG of the INTRO of GOJO's COMPLEXITY IN LIMITLESS and stuff?
I find it such amazing song
the fact that this is even a video is insane
The body moves on its own and decides how to dodge in ui. Ui can also make his body sense danger. Goku's moves also get more fine tuned, his body becomes automatically sturdier as necessary, goku hits more quickly, sharply and heavily as he fights and he went into ui while unconscious.
Goku can also sense malice, has some form of precognition or a sixth sense like when he was able to know exactly what a clone of tien was going to do while his back was turned to him and as shown against beerus without ui goku was able to instinctively avoid an attack that would've killed him without even being able to sense beerus energy and before the attack happened.
Goku has IT too. Goku can also make a skin tight barrier around himself that was able to block out lavender's poison and absolute zero temps. Goku can make a non skin tight barrier around himself also that's able to tank attacks stronger than him. Goku can make an energy barrier and outwardly expand it.
Goku also has adaptability. And without being in ui goku has good perception, reaction, analytical prediction, instincts and sensing. Master roshi using something way inferior to ui was able to take, block and avoid attacks from jiren. Ui also put base goku on par with ssj vegeta who was having a lot of trouble evading attacks base ui goku was evading easily and with his eyes closed.
Thank you. Seriously Gojo can’t get anywhere close
@@thundercat123studios only win con for gojo is infinite void. You'd have to equalize stats and energies, take away ui, flight and IT for gojo's only win con to be a factor though. And even when infinite void connects in that scenario I think goku still has a chance of winning because goku has a high pain tolerance and he has trained his mind. Which should give him some degree of mental resistance. So infinite void would have to be strong enough to prevent goku from being able to amount any kind of offense. That's the only scenario gojo could win in.
@@speedbeyondlogic goku is a telepath too he could break gojos mind
@@JasWinnin-gi2jb yeah possibly.
Seth man I missed you bro post more consistently Ik this years been tuff
is limitless really limitless, since we are able to see gojo from the moment he activates it so it should at most be 1 second of a light the speed of light right? otherwise we wouldnt be able to see him right?
If Ui Goku was hit by Gojo's domain expansion his ultra instinct would save him due to the fact that his body reacts unconsciously to dodge attacks, and even if it doesnt work Goku would be so tough that none of Gojo's attacks except maybe hollow purple could damage Goku.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the new Goku v Superman deathbattle.
@@K1wayne😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If Goku can use a lesser version of UI in base wouldn't his body just move on it's own even if he got trapped by Infinite Void? Granted the precision wouldn't be as good as MUI but his stats are so much higher than Gojo's that it wouldn't even matter.
If he gets trapped in the void that's it unless he can teleport out
@@theneedtoswim4565 goku? teleport? bro that's like one of the most basic things that goku knows.
@@theneedtoswim4565negga haven't even watched DB
@@stevethedude.4586 he cant teleport out of unlimited void, we have seen in the anime that goku is not smart, getting his brain overloaded with multiple infinite information would fry it
@@skullify6559it didnt even fry Jogo's mind, limitless information was a hyperbole. Goku has such a good ki control that he can probably sense every living thing like half way across the universe. I think that already makes Goku in a really high mental capacity
I appreciate this video. I just wish it was less boring cause getting through all that was tough. I think id like this better if you structured it as "Goku beats Gojo" then immedietaoey start with addressing all the points as to why that is. Then focus on the rest of the info after. Idk if that makes sense though 😅
The last time I watched Dragon Ball was about 25 years ago on a black and white TV. They crossed a line regarding their power long, LONG AGO...
Literally stepped out of work to watch this. SETH IS BACK 🫨
Gojo is definitely a Trafalgar law victim 😂😂😂
yo whatever chopper is giving u tell him to give me some k
Gotenks Washes one piece
u know what, if gojo got caught in room and Law fucks up the room where Gojo is at, Gojo is dead. Law > Gojo
@@user-wf9bv2mh3k room doesn't bypass infinity so gojo>>>
@@fodderexperiencerequiem9092bro Base Goten and Base Trunks by themselves is enough let alone fused
Does the information go past Jujutsu Kaisen season 2?
Goku would be like, "Oh you have UI too cool, lets fight."
Gojo vs battles are always so awkward. It’s always “they can’t touch Gojo so I guess he wins over time” or “they can get through limitless and one shot Gojo”. I haven’t seen 1 crossverse equal match up to Gojo
Should be much easier to find them now though, since we know that limitless does not at all require infinite speed or abilities that ignore space time altogether. Just having enough AP to surpass the technique, which as shown by Sukuna, planetary AP is more than enough, many characters that would have been uncertain or gojo sweep at first, will be able to beat him easily. Like Naruto and Ichigo both for example have absolutely no trouble beating Gojo with what we know now, while before this people would argue that they can't even touch gojo.
Same with Saitama, and many other characters that are much more powerful than him, but people weren't sure they could beat him because they might not be able to beat limitless, but they can because raw power can easily overpower limitless, same as any localized space slicing abilities which there are plenty of characters who have that kind of power.
Another thing is light, since his ability doesn't block sunlight, anyone who can use light based attacks, or even a freaking laser beam, could effortlessly one shot him...
The editing on this video was insanely clean
Bro beat the allegations and came back with a W
@notmeegz9693 hes still losing subs tho
Those "Mahoraga" cutin's had me cracking up!!!!
Six hour video on Goku , I'll sub to watch this
22:10
Since sukuna and Jogo still had thoughts and sukuna could literally summon mahoraga despite being under UV and being knocked out
UI would allow Goku to fight gojo despite suffering from UV
It’s also shown that UV effects varies not only based on the time subjected to it but also based on the power level of the opponent
The humans were stuck for 2 months while disaster curses were stuck for 5 minutes
Sukuna was stuck for a few seconds.
I mean it’s not like gojo could even trap goku in a domain he has no ce and he’s too fast gojo isn’t even ftl
@@user-tf9pw7sm1b while I agree that Goku is too fast
This is under the assumption that Goku just gets trapped
And even then, Goku still beats him up
Since it's based on power level, then it would take like... A month for Gojo to defeat Goku with domain expansion? 😅😂
Bro please, just say goku beats him with telekinesis and don't make it too complicated, simple as that mate, Telekinesis bypass it and crashes him into pieces
Telekinesis, the most underrated ability of all DB characters. Piccolo could very easily and casually lift the DB equivalent of the Pyramid of Gaza with just his mind in early Dragonball Z, which even this pathetic level of telekinesis is more than enough to crush Gojo or any JJK character into meat paste effortlessly. It is safe to say, with how much Ki the DB cast has now, every one of them can produce multi galaxy levels of telekinetic force, up to millions of times universal level of force, depending on the character, which is more than enough to one shot the entire JJK verse.
finally back !
I'd argue that applying a sufficient real force to hollow purple would destroy it by the same mechanism that it destroys what it comes in contact with, it would give it an imaginary component to its velocity that means it could no longer exist within the universe.
Mui does counter infinite void since the body reacts on its own separate from the mind so even if he gets hit his body can still onetap gojo and then break free from the domain
No as soon as he’s in range he’s not touching Gojo
@@AnonymousSmartGuy goku will speed blitz.
@@fishy2545 limitless
@@fishy2545 even moving with infinite speed, it would take infinite time to reach infinite distance
@@huhvee4238huh ? infinite speed would bulldoze through infinity lol, infinite speed only take a finite amount of time to get pass infinity
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Who made the comparison between these two like they were born only yesterday?!
And when the world needed him most, HE RETURNED!
You hella late seth been back
Ngl glad ur back Seth
Let me remind you: Even in the "Goku can't get past infinity" argument, gojo can't even come close to damaging goku. Stalemate? No, gojo will tire out way sooner than goku (Though it'd probably take very long), as we saw in gojo VS sukuna or gojo's first fight with toji, we all know he can't use infinity forever, ironically
15:15 its because he did a chant to make it more effective against mahoraga to make it harder to adapt to and probably made it faster and bigger
With a lot of verses, souls tend to be extremely common. Because of the similar nature of all souls regardless of verse, this is actually a very good metric to base, "can they see each other" around. For example, nearly every character in Bleach is a kind of soul that can see souls. Thus, even if Bleach characters couldn't see cursed energy, it wouldn't matter since they can see and directly attack souls, and there's no way even someone like Sukuna could tank an attack from a low level Bleach character. It'a even shown in Dragon Ball that Souls can be see and fought against as when Beerus literally got pissed off at and deleted an immortal soul from existence with Hakai. The soul is the great equalizer in anime battles.
Edit* I also view different energies like water and oil. For this example, they don't emulsify, and so Ki doesn't have access to what CE can do, and CE doesn't have access to what Ki can do. However, just because they operate differently doesn't mean water can't flow past the oil and flood it or annihilate it. A single drop of oil in an ocean of water is effectively useless against the tide. Just my thoughts.
I just proved gojo beats goku
@@I_H_M_N Gojo can beat Goku's meat.
HEESSSS BACKKKKKK
Could you try this idea. Mahoraga vs Goku but they spend 10 years training together before their fight.
If even sans can beat gojo, imagine goku.
how are people even arguing bout domain frick the domain goku slams gojo simple as tha😭