My BRAND NEW TRUCK almost left me stranded in the mountains
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- Опубліковано 18 лют 2023
- The dreaded def countdown on a brand new truck with 2400km. Give me a break
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"Designed in California". Kinda like when Vancouver thought they should start going with California building standards, and then leaky condos happened en masse. Kinda like when Vancouver used an Australian firm to design the Port Mann and then massive chunks of ice formed on the cables and smashed cars driving over the bridge. Next up: electric vehicles for all...despite issues with batteries not charging properly or at all in freezing temperatures, but it's OK because if you can charge the car overnight and don't have a single emergency through the night, you MAYBE MIGHT be OK. :/
😂 you’re not wrong
You have spoken the truth son!
WELL FUCKIN PUT EH.
Nobody should be following Commiefornia for anything anymore.
Cars won't necessarily be all electric in the future, given that hydrogen cars already exist
I feel your pain, brother. I had almost the same thing happen to my truck except the see dealer warning kept coming back. The dealer said it would take several months to get the replacement parts for the def system. So I deleted it instead. Best discison ever! The truck runs so much better in every way and hasn't skipped a beat. I live in Montana and totally agree that the def systems don't do well in cold climates. Awsome video. I want to go up north to Banff one of these days!
Definitely deleting this one soon just hoping they release tuning for it, if not I’ll buy a 2021 ecm then do the delete.
@@darkirondiesel there ya go I bought a 1012 just to be pre def
@@darkirondiesel I hope you do a video on that - I am looking at a new 2023 3500, but I want to be able to delete it. If the ECM swap works, I'll just do that too.
Yeah the cold temperatures you guys are having up north is what is preventing the def system from doing its job so all that particulate matter is no being burned off completely but instead clinging to/clogging the deisel particulate filter.
Any body shop you recommend to go for delete it?
I have the first trucks that Ram put this garbage def fluid into (2013 Ram 2500 diesel). Had the exact message as you a few times during cold snaps here in Alberta. I even had it in a heated garage too. Then I would get NOx sensor messages etc in the summer after a few years. Deleted DEF & egr, tuned with EFI live, and turbo back exhaust around 70,000 kms. Now at 130,000 km and counting with zero issues since delete. Mileage is even better, and it sounds like a diesel should. The truck was awesome before, but I love it even more since the delete. Do yourself a favor and delete that garbage and never look back!
My ram did the same thing. UNFORTUNATELY the def tank fell off at the same time the exhaust system fell off and egr system ended up plugging itself. Truck runs better, gas mileage better and pinheads in Washington can pound salt.
I’m getting on in years now and I’m afraid I’m going to go into “limp” mode myself and so is my wife. Ha ha ha glad you made it home safely and I hope I made you laugh.
One thing for sure, the more complicated and fancier a pickup is, the more things that will go wrong. I like the comment on mountains being huge, not too many people gonna argue with you on that.
This is why I’m keeping my 2012 Ram 6.7. I delete it at about 5000 miles, an never had a problem with it. It may not have all the new features, but it’s paid for, and runs great ! Good luck with your new Ram it really does look nice !
As a ram tech here in Montana I always see this exact issue after customers use truck stop def. Usually I also find the def from truck stop pumps when tested has a higher water content.
My big rigs of various makes never seemed to have any issue with bulk DEF over 4 years. And that’s Cummins, Detroit, and Volvo engines.
I don’t know where the buses I work on get thier def, but the main problem with the def is either leaks or clogs from the lines or doser.
Enjoyed your story, thanks for this. Been there too with my 2016 Ram 3500. I got an overpressure in def system alarm. Drained and cleaned the def tank no help. Dealer wanted over 3,000 bucks to maybe fix it as its just off warranty. Bought the complete delete kit, stainless 5 inch, egr throttle option, the best computer and installed it myself. Best decision I ever made, just wish I would have done it sooner as the egr was sooting up the intake when I looked as I was cleaning the egr valve off. Now I got scads more power, 22 mpg economy, can;'t wait to start towing my toys this summer. And no more error codes at all, it even shows me with a full def tank permanently. I bought the muffler option too and love the sound, sounds like a real truck now. Thanks
I can’t wait to delete mine too buddy, let the engine run how it was originally designed before the EPA ruined them
Leo, what is the egr throttle option? Also what kit did you use? I also have a 2016 Ram 2500. Thanks.
@@happycamper5900 hi there Happy Camper, yes the egr throttle option is where you remove the factory butterfly valve in the intake snorkle so you have a nice clean unobstructed flow into the intake manifold. It cleans up the appearance and takes more junk off the truck. After the new delete program the truck will not even know it had an egr system and the valve will never try to close and restrict the intake again. Some people just take out the little piston pushrod without a delete kit but I wouldn't do that. The egr system from the exhaust to the final egr valve needs to ventilate to get warm and get rid of those nasty combustion acids that can eat up the plumbing.
I used the kit from Unlimited Diesels. I think my kit came out of Canada where its too cold for all these def systems freeze up and quit working. I almost live in Canada, I can see BC from here. My DEF system must have froze up as I got an overpressure alarm. Dealer didn't have any parts to fix either the injector or the pump or the control module and my truck went into the count down of death.
@@leoyudysky Thanks!
*Cries in California residency*
Looks like a mint 5.9 for 30-40k is my only option.
We're getting hosed in North America (Canadian here too), and I'm sure other markets are feeling the same. I picked up a used Canyon diesel because I've had enough of new and wanted something I could put a bit of time into and call my own. Funny how dealerships make sure the vehicle rolls of the lot problem free because they've done a "full multipoint inspection" and "corrected" any major issues. First was a NOX sensor that melted and caused my DPF to fill up like shitter at Woodstock. Second issue was a DPF pressure sensor controller that welded itself to the sensor connector, third was the transmission (which I just had completely rebuilt in September). I find it highly hypocritical that governments at all levels find it permissible to let big business continue to chooch until there's no tomorrow from their factories, their vehicles, their ships, and planes... but then shit on everyday people and say we should lead by example. Thing is... I WANT to do my part because at the end of the day, a DPF doesn't really rob all that much performance and I can have the satisfaction that it's helping my rig run cleaner than most gassers out there. Unfortunately, when you have to pay 10k all in to have a complete replacement emissions system installed it leaves the taste of shit in the mouth. All I want? modular DPF, SCR, etc... vband that shit and let me pay several hundred for a new unit and I can slap it in myself, but that would be common sense and cost companies more money... so they don't do it. Dirty Diesel Customs kit now sits in my garage waiting for the day I can't use my ODB Link MX+ / Gretio app to force regens and address P2002 errors.
GM/Dodge/Government: If you're reading this, you're self-serving wankers and you don't give a shit about owners and the challenges they face buying supposedly reliable vehicles.
That sucks the problems you are having. Diesels seem to have more issues than gassers and cost an arm and a leg to service/repair them. Unless you tow everyday buy a gasser. With diesel $1.82 here in BC and the extra cost its just not worth it. Best of luck w your truck.
So emissions issues should be blamed on the gov as they mandated it. Not manufacturers
@@TC-hs5wy you’re lucky…diesel is over $5 a gallon in Florida
@@Hiltrljr T C is talking CAD $1.82 per LITER... or CAD $6.89 per GALLON... about USD $5.10 per Gallon if you want to compare apples to apples. Last year we were paying over CAD $7.50/Gallon in Vancouver. It's come down a bit since then, but goddamn they make it hard on the working man with the fuel pricing fuckery
Great post. Now imagine being a class 8 owner operator and depending on the rig to put food on the table. Thats why l will only own a Glider kit or pre emissions engine.
Great Job filming with the Cell Phone. The video was awesome the Mountains there are so beautiful. I have lived in the Mountains my whole life and would never want to live anywhere else. Your new truck looks awesome! Sorry You had those issues on Your trip. That really sucks but happy to see You made it home okey.That Truck would look really sick with a 4" lift on it for sure! Congratulations on the new ride and I hope from now on the rest of your journeys with it will all be fun. Keep up the great work and look forward to your next video!🙏🏻👍
Dude, I feel for ya and totally know those frustrations! And of course, it never happens at a convenient time! I had many of the same issues with my 2016 just before my extended warranty expired at 100,000mi. In fact, I remember getting a few different messages on my dash at various times related to different emissions components, all threatening limp mode. Sometimes, they'd shut off on their own, other times I had to leave the truck at the dealer for days on end hoping they had found and fixed the issue... Of course, only for the message to return telling me limp mode was approaching. I think after roughly 6 times of having my truck at the dealer in a 3-4 month timeframe, I finally threw in the towel and deleted it. It was sad for me to think that my 20 year old Honda Civic with nearly 200,000 miles was a much more reliable form of transportation while I was having all those issues with the Cummins. The guys at the dealer totally understood my frustrations and I really didn't wanna spend up to $10,000 on various components for them to probably have to replace the whole system in the long run before they finally found the issue or replaced a faulty component that was tripping the system up.
I'm glad your dealer was honest with you about not shutting the truck off. Mine was too, and it was always nice to have that peace of mind that if I needed to get it to a dealer if I was out in the middle of nowhere, I would be able to. I'm not sure if it'll work on yours, but I do have a Bluedriver OBD reader and I was able to clear those messages with it. However, a lot of times, the messages would eventually return with the same amount of miles until limp mode. But at least it was good to buy me some time and extra miles. Might be worth having on hand, just in case, and they're not terribly expensive. I feel your pain, brother and it's even more unbelievable that it's happening on a brand new truck. At least mine had something like 90,000-95,000 miles on it before it started causing me headaches with those messages. Hopefully you can liberate it pretty soon and enjoy your truck the way it's meant to be enjoyed. I personally never found it too much of an issue to put DEF in the truck and have a cleaner truck for the environment. But what I do have a problem with is potentially paying boatloads of money for faulty components that are completely unnecessary to the functioning of the truck and are only there because of government mandates. The "weight reduction" on the truck was the best money I've ever spent on it and knock on wood, I haven't had any issues with it since. It's nice to have confidence that the truck won't leave me stranded because of emissions components and I can drive it wherever I want again. Sorry for the longwinded response, but rest assured, you're not alone with these frustrations. I think every newer generation diesel truck owner either shares some similar stories or will inevitably have some of their own if they haven't experienced it yet. It's really unfortunate and an unnecessary frustration in a newer vehicle. Keep us updated on the saga!
Glad you made it back safely. Having truck issues in the back of your mind throughout your trip is mental especially in snow, alone and in the middle of nowhere.
This is part of the reasons the older Cummins and Duramax's are going for a high premium
I totally understand why now, because of dumb shit like this!! Crazy man!!
My 21 1500 Sierra with the 3.0 Duramax did the same thing twice with 9k miles on it. GM finally came up with a software solution. After the re-flash no problems yet at 13k miles. Every single diesel that uses DEF are having these type of problems with emissions...good old EPA!
What a pain! I fill my DEF when it gets to 1/4 w/a jug of def, and fills to 3/4 full. Has worked great so far. I also don't live in freezing temps so that helps too. Can't wait to see you delete and how that comes out.
2022 Ram HO Dually here, will probably copy all you do!
Same exact thing happened to me on my way to work with my 5th Gen. Spent the night in Kamloops and the Dodge dealer fit me in. Replaced the pump/sender under warranty. Very similar situation. Glad it didn’t derate earlier in the day.
I have a ‘20 3500 limited. I did the same, had to have the pump changed out the first winter because I filled the DEF tank. Now I know, don’t ever fill the tank over 1/4 during the winter. And you’ll never have a problem. The tank you’ll be designed with a coolant coil in it so the DEF fluid can be kept from freezing. The ribbon heaters in the tank only thaws the bottom 1/4 of the tank, so when it’s full the DEF freezes in a block above the ribbon heaters.
I too am in Saskatoon and enjoy solo trips to the Rockies. Snowboarding and mountain biking .. Also agree, solo trips to the mountains rock!
I drove my brand new '20 6.7 straight from the dealership to the shop and had them rip all of that stuff out. 50k miles later and I have had no issues at all. More power and greater mpg also.
Oh boy! I feel for you man. I have the same truck!! 1800 km. Bought 1 month ago. I know the 8km won’t kick in only on restart. Pls let me know what happened.
Ok! Finished your vid. I’d love to stay in touch. Sucks to have a new truck that lets you down happened to me with mf350 in 2013 but that’s another story. Be well !!
I’ve also filled my trucks up from a card lock def pump to full pretty much every time since day one. I’d call bs on that. At least you got to have fun on the mountain haha
1 thing I learned early in my diesel emissions journey, every time I let the def tank go really low I get issues so I learned never to let it go below ½ tank. And in 240,000 km no issues. I’m in Edmonton so it must do to the cold.
Ive had this happen three times in 60k miles. Once it was due to the in tank def level sensor. Twice it was due to a glitch in the ECM which can only be reset by the dealer. The dealer reset cost around $100 each time.
Unreal man
I had my 21 ram 3500 do the same thing. It was from filling the def tank full. The gauge works off a Lazer eye sensor not a float gauge so if it's too full it can't see the def and think it's empty. The best way is wait until you have 1/4 tank put only a jug of def it will go up to 3/4 tank and you won't have that problem again.
Had the same problem with mine, tried the one jug and it still didn’t register properly after driving the truck another hour.
The dealership in ND now tells me to keep it below 1/2 a tank in winter and 3/4 in summer what a joke I've got a claim # at RAM so I'm going to keep on them. If they would go back to the float system it would help
Love the truck buddy can't even tell it's taken on an iPhone the quality is great, emissions is nothing but a headache, I had a 2012 6.7 cummins yes i deleted it loved the truck in every way but the price of fuel was just to much for me for the amount I hauled, so I got a 2019 ram 1500 limited and boy oh boy are the 5th gens beautiful trucks. Ram by far has the best interiors in my books
What an emotional rollercoaster of a video! I’m glad it worked out and you got home. Nothing sucks more than having issues far from home.
Question about emissions stuff. Do you know anything about the 4” Magnaflow diesel cat converters? My truck is straight piped but I’ve long wondered if my county in Texas ever requires emission tests if I can just stick one of those on my truck and call it good. I can’t find any research, reviews or people talking about them on the internet.
Mine did same, poured 2 jugs DEF on the ground-pretty sure it’s full. Turned out to be a pinched wire on the frame, tech at dodge had jt fixed in minutes. THATS STRIKE 2 lol
Wow. That's so frustrating. I have a 2021 I deleted at 1,000 miles. Definitely glad I don't have to deal with that. For what it's worth, I used EZ Link, and am super happy with it. I figured the 2022 tunes would be out by now...I will say those are the most beautiful mountains I've ever seen! Glad you made it home!
I got a line on a 2021 ecm im going to buy and install onto the truck, then I can tune it like a 2021
@@darkirondiesel Well hopefully you don't have to pay an arm and a leg for it. Mine has been perfect, no issues. Good luck! Look forward to more vids with you're new 5th gen! 🤘🏼
My man you can swear you have male fans that where swearin for ya bud,
Let er out bud ya no
@@darkirondiesel post a video on this, really interested on tuning the newer trucks.
Don't get caught, the fines the EPA is handing out are getting ridiculous!
I feel you! I got a 2020 Ram 2500 with the 6.7 ...only 32,000km and I've been to the dealer 5 times with that derate message. Seems every big cold snap we get in Alberta I'm driving to the dealer. Been there more for DEF issues than I have oil changes
Delete that thing man
@@darkirondiesel nothing like completely voiding the warranty on a brand new 85 k dollar diesel truck.
Nothing like not being able to drive your 85k brand new diesel truck.
If your vehicle is designed for California why do we have to put up with tech that does not work below freezing. NO military vehicles have DEF fluid, a clue that DEF system fails too often.
@@JohnDiMartino “void the warranty”…if the damn thing won’t run because of the EPA nonsense..take it off
That sucks man! Glad to see you got home safe and sound tho!
Glad you made it home. Good luck
Have to touch the cables together to discharge the capacitors for a global reset at least on other older manufacturers.
The comments seem to suggest these Rams have issues. My 98 2500 V10 may be a petrol hog, but she has never left me stranded. Glad you got to go snowboarding
You would be wise on a warm day to put the truck up on jacks and go under it and see if the people at the factory actually pushed the wire connectors all the way down on the def sensors and on the catalytic units and such. Just check every darn plug-in connector on the truck, under the hood and everywhere, to see if they are properly seated. For some reason, some people on assembly lines really fight getting these connectors to seat and then they lose connection just through the truck bouncing down the road. I think the problem is they are budgeted five seconds to get the connectors seated and then the vehicle moves down the line. I love these DEF clean diesels. They have really changed the way anyone can lie about how dirty diesels are. Very nice Dodge. (It's a Ram...no. it's a Dodge) Hope fully you check a plug-in connector and it goes click and you go, dammit. And everything is fixed.
Just an info that I had from a mécanici at the dealer. During the winter months never fill the DEF tank more than half, otherwise it will freeze, the heater is too small and your fluid will freeze, you should also put a blanket in the front, might not look the best but sure does an excellent job. On a cold day on the byway it might also freeze.
Nice truck. Congrats! Sucks about the issues
Man same story with buying a Ford 2500 tremor. Ended up buying that same truck and I love it no problems with the DEF. Hope thing work out
I've seen this happen to a lot of people with modern DEF required trucks. The systems either need a heating circuit to eliminate freeze-up or DEF needs to be reformulated to stay liquid at colder temperatures.
We run winter diesel blends to prevent gelling. I don't see any reason we shouldn't be able to have winter DEF.
So true man. I ended up selling my duramax because i kept having issues with emissions. Constantly every winter without fail my def lines or tank froze and cracked regardless how full it was. My dpf regularly refused to regen for unknown reasons and never got fixed. This all started within 3000km on a brand new truck. Emissions systems nowadays are literal garbage. I could only stand 80000km of issues and i sold the truck at the height of covid pricing.
That's one of the reasons I like my Mitsubishi Delica L400 with robust reliable 4m40 diesel engine! Btw, great video. Greetings from BC.
Chrysler tech here, I work on these pretty often. if in the case your truck shuts down you can bypass it by going into the PDC (fuse box) take two screw drivers remove the relay for the starter key in run and touch the two screw drivers itll start up, only do this if ur stranded, a lot of the time these trucks will have a sensor issue causing the DEF code, unless if you went empty on DEF, I have replaced a ton of particulate matter sensors, Nox sensors, and sometimes the whole SCR's, these trucks sensors need to be on point, if it were me I would delete the truck lol, 9 times outta 10 a truck comes in for repairs if not emissions related and has warranty we generally don't give the customer a hard time for other things, we will warranty stuff it we can and get the customer on their way. I am not the up most extreme keen of these trucks but i can hold my own and when these roll into the shop it just takes a good amount of reading and research to diag them.
Please also be aware of the recall for the HPFP, most newer trucks even 2015-2016 but mostly 2018 and up will have it depends on make and model and all that sort, but definitely look into that.
edit: I do see quite a bit of wiring damage too, nothing the customer has done, just at splice points where it runs along the cab, itll rip and cause an open then triggering codes.
This is really good information thank you I appreciate it. I kind of want to get my truck to go into limp mode now just so I can try that and make a video on it.
@@darkirondiesel lol a dude with an eco diesel came into the shop, his scr was completely rusted out and it was melting his def injector and the harness, so it was puking def every time it tried to dose, dude doing the trick to start it up xD i’m like uhm okay. But yea i dont think it’ll hurt anything, if you have a power probe that’ll work too, just send power to the ground side of the relay and wallah
I feel your pain buddy hopefully my 20 I get deleted before anything. Stupid happens that way. I’m glad you made it home safe quite the experience should be deleting my next week. Just got all of my goodies and thanks to you.
I’m going to find a 2021 ecm so I can tune this thing. I’m so over the emission system already haha
From Northern Ontario here.... my def heater hose crapped out on my 2020. Glad for warranty
Same happened to my 22 / 3500. Luckily I had the banks data monster installed and I was able to clear it. If you ever decide to swap the ECU, please make a video regarding your process. I am seriously considering this option. Thanks for the update and I’m glad you are safe!
One more important: from what I’ve read on efi live forum, even with the swapped ECU, if the dealer flashes the software, you’re back to square one. You’l need another ECU. This is what worries me the most since the truck is still under warranty & you never know what serious recall related visit will result. Some dealers just don’t listen when you tell them not to touch the programming.
I will do a video for sure and yeah but I read efi live had a work around now for that
I have a 16/ 2500 .. I had many issues with the DED system ..Just two weeks after bought it .. I took it back to the dealer .. they fixed it (apparently) ,.. had continuing having the same issue ..
Finally I decided to delete it … .. now almost two years .. and thanks to all gods , everything it’s in perfect condition
Do you have any update on this ECU swap situation? I really want to delete my truck asap!
@@darkirondieselwhat did the delete end up costing you on your ‘22?
Used to have a 74 Dodge dart that I parked on the road and people would kick the cord out all the the time in winter. That 318 had that rad frozen solid 4 times and I kept going to the real Canadian Superstore on 8th Street and park underground all day until it thawed and then it was a bunch of bars leaks and off again. I had several Dodges with a 318 up to '03, nothing could kill them! BTW, current f350 is a few pounds lighter👍
Can’t believe they said don’t fill the def tank all the way. My duramax owners Manuel legit says when filling fill till full. Emissions equipment was a good idea I guess but terribly executed! Glad you got back safe
I really have a itch for RAM to replace my aging, 400k miles Tundra. Videos and forum posts like this instantly cure that itch.
Had the exact same thing happen to me. Turns out that the DEF gauge won’t even attempt to re-read the current level until the ambient temp is above 34F. DEF also freezes at like 17F so you have to be careful that you don’t split your DEF tank. It’s super great for anyone that lives in a northern climate.
ahhh I live in Alaska it has been -20 and my def jugs are frozen solid?? Is my trucks def tank next to pop?
@@bearbait2221 depends how full it is. Since DEF is mostly water, it expands when frozen. Keep a good amount of air in the tank and you should be fine. If it’s 3/4 full or less, I think you should be fine.
My gauge has been doing this the last couple months on my 17 , full then empty , then 1/2 then empty (the tank is full) . I have emissions on tuning and have just been clearing the code with my ezlynk when the gauge comes off zero and have kept it out of any kind of limp mode. I have everything to get rid of that crap, just trying to get through until spring before having to do the work.
My 2022 Ford 6.7L did this when I waited until very low to refill. It took some driving for it to register. I fill my DEF to the top, everytime, no issue.
I know if you live and keep your truck registered in Alberta, you can delete the def and not worry about all the issues that come along with it. Seeing as Sask and Alberta share similar mindsets, get rid of that darn system brotha!
I love Canmore btw! Most under rated place in Canada! Maybe I'll live there some day. I currently live in north east Alberta.
Crappy deal with the new rig but damn beautiful scenery!
Nice truck! Looks almost just like mine.
I had a 2013 Ram 2500 Cummins. It was in the shop every month for repairs and recalls. I got to a point where I did not keep anything in the truck because I got tired of taking everything out when I was getting loaner cars. I traded it in with 118,000 miles on it because it was running good and I knew it was going to break down again. I purchased a gas 1500 and never looked back. The EPA has ruined diesel trucks and we have to deal with all the problems.
Man that sucks I’d be super pissed. Glas to see another video tho ha 🤘🏻
Sorry to hear about you problem! WOW!! With all do respect, there’s a reason I drive Toyota Trucks!
I have a 2016, only issues ive had is exactly what your dealing with the emissions go crazy when it gets cold, I just ignore the message or delete the ones i can and it self clears when it gets warmer out everytime, when i first started getting them dealer would charge tons of $$$$, so now I wait and it clears
Haha 10mils missin notoriously lol. Great video buddy
I had the same issue at pretty much same kms..... they cleaned the head unit was full of crystals. Was a quick fix.
Nice new truck bro!
Stay tuned brother, wait till you have to start replacing sensors
I’m not man this things getting deleted asap
I want to buy one of these Rams but after watching these videos and their are many like yours, I just can"t pull the plug. Best of luck!
I deleted 2 months ago, I have a 3500 Dually, thing runs awesome. I also added ram air, Banks cold air and 5 programs. Thing is sick
What does deleting mean?? Just curious. I’m getting the same truck and kinda concerned
My truck did the same thing brand new 3500 Laramie 22’ def sensors all went bad and had to be replaced at 2000 miles no issues since they replaced them.
The emissions crap has been around for 10 years . You would think they would have it figured out by now. I had the same issue with my 2013 cummins from new. Ram was not very cooperative with the issues at all. I traded off the truck 4 years ago. I swear I can replace the water pump and ball joints and front axel seals in my sleep on those trucks . Running a duramax now. 3 years and so far so good. Better than the first 3 years I had with the cummins . I wish you luck with your truck.
I have a 2018 3500 lariat 6.7, at 30,000 mi, dash board said your particulate filter is 80% full see dealer! 45 seconds later the engine blew the turbo dented the floor board.
Called dealer and stopped by they said that the factory representative wouldn’t be in our area until April, it is now November! I replaced my motor with a reman from Houston with a complete delete and a couple upgrades. Happy but broke. David
Another happy landing
Filling def tank clear full and shutting it off doesn't allow the lines to purge back into the tank maybe. Then deff freezes and stuff breaks if lines and pump aren't empty
wow I was scared of doing my delete at first but it was the best thing i ever did . fuel mileage got down to 9.5 l / 100 kms. i would be very up set . but in the long run u did not get stranded, and made it home safely.
I’ve heard in a forum disconnecting an ABS sensor tricks the system but never tried myself and not sure losing ABS in the winter is the best idea
Had the same crap happen to me on my 2017. Traded it in and ordered a new one. After over 6 months of waiting and the price of diesel fuel going stupid high, I bought a gas truck. No issues!
I bought a new 2019 RAM 2500 - every winter the DEF would freeze and I would be threatened with the 8KM limit. Many times the dealer would try to fix the issue, but couldn't. In 2021 I had enough and deleted my truck - I have no interest in having more power, or rolling coal - I just wanted a reliable truck that would last a long time. My only regret with doing the delete is that I didn't do it sooner - I now average less than 9L/100KM down from 13-16L/100KM, I don't have to buy DEF, my truck sounds like diesel now, and it's an absolute pleasure to drive.
Hey dude. DEF actually freezes when it's really cold. There is a tank and line heaters. If for some reason you ended up getting a poor quality product, this will happen. It's a major pain in the ass, but it happens. It happens more with city drive or short trips. I don't believe they offer any additional additive for DEF, but they now have a more expensive platinum DEF that is claimed to help. At just about double the price!
Have a 2019 Ram 3500. The emissions system has been problematic and Ram could care less. They got my money and I’m stuck with a poorly designed system. So far the truck sat for 6 weeks while waiting for a DEF heater because the heater failed, def froze and therefore check engine light. Took 6 weeks to get the part. Next up def pump failed while on the road. Took 5 days to get the pump in and installed. Five days of hotel and meal costs. Next up particulate filter sensor failed on the road. Truck sat for two weeks waiting for part and installation. Thankfully I could stay in my trailer. Why the EPA and these manufacturers aren’t being held accountable for a poorly designed, poorly engineered and poorly supported emissions system is beyond me. Using a fluid that freezes at -12C in a country where temperatures in the northern areas are routinely below that makes no sense but apparently it met some engineers approval. Surely these so called smart people could come up with an additive that prevents freezing or better yet one that doesn’t require the use of DEF. I’m thinking that firing the entire lot of them would be good start.
There is a heater in the DEF tank but of course it only works when the truck is running. It probably froze because DEF fluid is 67.5% water so the truck was running without the emission system working which is why it told you it was going to shut down after so many miles. Then after you were driving it for a while the DEF fluid melted and the emissions system went into regen mode, cleaned out its filter and started running again. Be careful that a full tank of DEF fluid doesn't freeze and crack the tank, many people only leave it half filled during the winter for this reason.
Whats up man, it's been awhile!! I em looking at getting the same truck!! I wanna get the tradesman tho, I don't need all that tech!! Once I get it, I will do the fully weight lose and a few other things right off the bat!! I want my truck to last!!
Happened to me in my 22 ram 3500 at 13,000 miles. Dealer told me I drive the truck wrong! I will never take my truck to another dealer, too many independent mechanics I can give my cash to! Can't wait to get this science experiment off my truck.
I was going to say, they told me never to fill my Def tank more then 3/4 in the winter. I have had that code 3 times this winter. Every time it gets colder then -25. My pump has been changed twice. My dealer gets me in right away, they keep pumps on the shelf. I have a 22 2500, and live 20min north of Calgary
As long as you keep going you're fine. It's when you restart or fill up with diesel that it derates
Rules to live by with Def. 1 buy the jugs better to be below the full mark . 2 once the jugs open don't put the cap back on if it's fill up and you have some in the jug. I run mine right down and 3 run it right to the red on the gage. 4 don't store Def in direct sun light
Wondering if your DEF tank froze… maybe the quality of DEF you put in there?
These emissions system's suck ! That's why I deleted my 2019 f350 6.7. And upgrade on problematic OE Factory parts to after market. I noticed a big difference. Glad you made it home..
Do a DPF Delete and EGR and EGR Cooler delete along with the EGR throttle valve delete and then to add some pep to the truck add the banks monster ram air intake to it and intercooler and boost tubes and between all that you’ll probably gain an entire 100 wheel horse power and also 100 wheel ft lbs of torque and also the reliability of a deleted truck with no grid heater problems or possibility of grid heater failure which will destroy the engine by the way and honestly doing all that really just gives you the piece of mind knowing that your truck wont blow up or leave you stranded and will be 100% reliable all the time and mind you it will be tuned but if you do just a stock tune or even just a tow tune it would make it an amazing truck I would imagine considering the reliability of the 5.9 cummins was amazing and the 6.7 is just a emissions failure of the 5.9 with more displacement and a vgt turbo so it could potentially be a better engine if the emissions equipment on it is gotten rid of I imagine atleast
I have a 2020 chevy Silverado 2500hd with the duramax, last year with only 25,000 miles had a def system problem. Needed a new tank, took 3 months to get my truck back.
I will say the 3 brands diesels, you really can't go wrong, they all have the same problem. Emissions
A lot of states are checking diesel pick up trucks for their emissions equipment, one guy was forced to return his 2008 Dodge Ram with the 6.7L Cummins back to stock at the cost of over 10k US dollars.
The only other option was to crush the truck, the EPA takes that stuff serious.
I got the same truck as you with the Aisin. In November 2022 on my very first drive off the lot with 150km on it, the transmission failed. A snap ring let go. It was a recall and im still waiting for parts to this day 3 months later.. the more problems i see with these trucks the less excited i get.
Nice truck, just a heads up PD Diesel Power on UA-cam runs a hot shot fleet using ram 3500’s and he has had 3 2022 ram 3500’s with Aisins have major engine failures within 100k miles. Hopefully you won’t have any issues with yours. She’s sharp!
I had the opposite happen, 2021 F350 def gauge continued to read full. I put on approx. 6,000 km before the gauge suddenly dropped to about 1/3 tank.
John, look up videos on the cutaway of the DEF tank. There is a space between the top of the tank and the max level of the float. You can drive for 1000 miles before it comes off FULL, then you can watch the gauge move toward EMPTY.
Brother, I have the Duramax and had the same exact thing on my truck when I first got it. The DEF tank has a heater in it to melt frozen DEF and had the same issue. The tank and pump and lines clog with frozen DEF, the shit falls out of suspension in the system when it freezes/thaw and the dealers know about it. They swap that shit out FAST to keep you from getting pissed and it's all free, but it's total bullshit.
I have been getting the exact same issues with my 19, 3500 HO. 3 times now. Rams DEF system is not working. Truck just got the Jenny Craig weight loss mod. It is better now. Been to the same dealer while travelling to Golden to go sledding.....
Same thing happened to me this past Christmas in northern BC, weather was -35 and on my way back to the interior same warning. As I drove back towards Kamloops on the 26th weather had a 40 degree swing, drove it hard heating up the exhaust and mine just went off too....no warning message remained. Dealer in Kamloops told me that the DEF injector most likely froze and caused the issue, apparently thawing as things heated up more. Apparently they had 7 similar calls with the same issue that day, further proving that the DEF system is absolute garbage.
Waiting for my 100k warranty to expire before I delete mine. But I learned that just idling clogs the injector so everyone in a while put the foot down to kinda clean it out. Also don't use the cheap def fluid. I thought it was the same but it's not. Switch to peak regular not platinium and never had that issue again.
I bought a brand new 2022 RAM 3500 Longhorn last year (brand new $90,000 truck). The truck became inoperative on the next morning. I personally arranged towing, because dealer said that there is no way to check the truck unless I take the truck to the dealer, the dealer had it for about 1 week without knowing what the problem was, and I ended up cancelling the purchase.
21 minutes of my life that I will never get back.
Ouch. This is why I love my old 6.5lt Detroit diesel trucks!
Yup I was in the Crowsnest Pass on a sled trip 2022 3500 Laramie and the same thing happened, 8000km on it. Frozen tank… added warm DEF and it smartened up. So frustrating
I been looking for a new 2023 truck , either a 2500 or 3500 . Seen a lot of 2022’s over here in the U.S. that haven’t sold. Well I emailed a salesperson asking about a 2023 Ram 3500 crew cab Dually, told her I was seriously looking into a new 3500 or 2500. She made a remark about all the 2022 Cummins Diesel trucks got a recall , definitely not good news. Where you’re at do they have the same thing going on??? You got a beautiful truck, too bad about the mechanical problem. On a positive note, you got some incredibly beautiful mountains 🏔️ where you live!
Damn nice truck
My 2022 Ram under 5km has broken down 3 times now. Just brought it back to the dealer for the 3rd time 😑