Epiosde 29: My time in the Shincheonji Cult ft Jess Xentsa
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- We talk about Cults... yes again! But this time with someone who was in a cult and actually graduated from one! We're joined by the lovely Jess Xentsa! She lets us know how she was recruited and how she escaped!
Watch her youtube video of her full story here: • Video
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God bless this sister for gaining the strength to leave and still being a believer in Christ. Lord knows how hard it is to remain in the faith once people have shattered your mind and heart. Reminds me of my time at Spac nation
Thanks for opening up. On my way to work I was approached by a lady in London UK. I honestly thought she was evangelising but I noticed the red flag when she was overly enthusiastic, claiming we are friends and asking me to see her mentor and the meeting with the mentor has to be face to face.
When I asked the church they went to I was told New Heaven New Earth.
I saw an article saying the church are targeting black young people in the uk and uni students.
Same here jn Paris. The same approach. Very manipulative that will make you lose your mind.
Hmmm.... one day, I’ll speak. But it’s crazy, you grow up thinking a cult is like on NOLLYWOOD, where everyone is dressed in all red and black. Humming incarnations. Then one day it hits you, you are doing ‘shaku on the beat’ in one of the biggest cults going on right now. Praise God for redemption. 💕
Almost 5 months in bible study yall, then found out it was a cult🤦🏽♀️
I was in 10 months and didn’t know
3 months and got out!
@@gabriellewooding3898sis I was in for 10 months & leave this morning 😢
@@gabriellewooding3898 me too I started in June and it will be finished in 3 weeks time but I found out it had false teachings god bless you god showed me that I had to get out
Same here ,in Turkey. @@mattea81
These dislikers are SCJ members. Do not be fooled people.
What do you mean dislikers
@@ainaerastus4270 Goofy
Jesus is Lord! praise God who set you free from the deceitful schemes of satan
🙏🏾♥️
@@user-qb8dc1be6m it's them versus the others
@@mikesanchez504
Shincheonji is religious group, but fortunately not christianity at all. You can look down below:
The faith of Christians in Protestant, Evangelical, Pentecostal, Orthodox, and Catholic churches agrees that they all profess:
- Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the only and necessary redeemer of man
- The Holy Trinity - that is, the unity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
-The Old and New Testaments as the basic source of faith
- Baptism as a way to be integrated into the church and to share in salvation
- Faith as a necessary human response to God 's self - communication (revelation)
differ in principle:
- in view of Scripture, if it is actually considered the basic (Catholic, Orthodox) or the only (Protestant) source of the content of faith
- in view of the meaning of the oldest tradition, ie unwritten but lived presentation in the Church
- in the number of recognized sacraments
- in the sense of the church and presented in them
Christians do not include some groups that have Christianity in their name in one way or another, but:
- either they do not recognize Jesus as the only messiah and son of God (for example, the Moon Sect or the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit for the unification of world Christianity, nor were the Church of the Unification),
- or we receive revelations other than biblical (Mormons, or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints),
- or they have very much translation and interpretation of the Bible and have no faith in the divinity of Jesus and therefore in the Trinity (Jehovah's Witnesses),
- or anthroposophists who speak of "undogmatic Christianity" but in fact profess an eclectic religion with a number of completely non-Christian elements, etc.
Wait for the Judge to Judge,its sad cause the Bible is going to be used to Judge soon and if certain people avoid the only place that teaches the Truth about the bible thats the most tragic thing that could ever happen to you.
Im not picking any sides here but l have been in many organisations and denominations in my life and what l notice as a trend is that people leave churches cause their agenda wasn't recognised or they did something that was against the Commands of God,and they come to social media and paint a different picture to society as if they were wronged,ok men wronged you but dont loose heaven for hell because of men...we all are not perfect.
Hence l just pray in my home until l find the place where God and Jesus is at and l will obey that place even if it takes me being outcast by my friends and family like the disciples and martyrs who are in peace for eternity right now...
I love all of you especially if you read tis far.
God is love
Thank you so very much. Please pray for a dear friend who got trapped by this cult.
We will do! They're very deceptive in what they do, we pray that the light of God shines on the whole organisation
They are also known as ‘New Heaven New Earth’.
And they go by Bible promise course
Congrats for leaving SCJ !!
And you guys are doing good and fun work !😀👍
Thank you!🙏🏾❤
I remember leaving the group and they sent out messages all over to the centre members I was with that I have eaten from the tree of knowledge and now I am a sinner.
I literally became Adam and eve from the garden of Eden.
They told my allocated partner I had become weed in the river of glass....
I actually lost my mind because of scj
The trauma must have been really great. I'm praying that we will be healed of the pain, distress we had experienced when in Scj.
Me too..thank God for His grace after 2years i managed to get out
Yea thank God things are better now!
Asking too many questions puts them off but this will only happen if you are rooted in the word yourself and through the help of the Holy Spirit.
Is it possible for Jess to do another video? Her original post is not available
I've got a buddy who got indoctrinated into this cult and it really sucks. They definitely changed him from the man he used to be. Listening to all I can to understand their "theology" so I can dissect it with him and tear it apart
It's amazing you're doing that for your friend, shows how much you love them and love breaks through all chains so keep pushing!
2 weeks in bible study y'all!!!!! Jesus is Lord
Thank you so much for the video ! The truth comes to light 🌿✨
Yes that's what am going through right now, she is saying i throw away my old doctrine and allow new doctrine.
Devil if the Father of Lies
Is*
This is very powerful I wish I knew this sooner I'm leaving this week
Congrats 🎉, things have changed a lot with their teachings. There are alot of questions that were asked in this video that the class now offer clarity to. But there are fundamental things that just can’t be explained with their lessons, and alot of contradictions. I have chosen to talk away after 9 months. Him who overcomes was introduced as a witness of the testimony of fulfillment, but later you see that he’s their God. And is the one who is choosing the 144k and anyone else who makes it to Gods kingdom. People put a lot of effort into keeping his teaching and staying sealed, so that they are found blameless at the end. It’s sad when you step away, even the last conversation you have upon leaving, your friends from the class honestly think you have shrunken back in your faith, and went back to Babylon Satans world, or the sea. It’s sad, the culture of the society was something that always seemed deceitful and from day one I had trust issues, because I was “evangelized” from bumble…my trust in them became so bad, I asked if I would be asked to give blood and everyone laughed. But the fact that even this video speaks of them requesting blood types, makes it all so creepy!
I’m about to graduate from Shincheonji.
Good for you
I love your conversation..TQ for sharing 🤩,,,i had a 2 monrths SCJ experience as well.
Why are there so many dislikes? This is bomb!!!!! I guess truth hurts
Same thing I was thinking.... If it's actually a cult, this negative publicity won't be flying around so easily. Just know that Satan is so wise and won't be easily exposed if this is actually a secret cult. I have been watching videos and comments about this church and I have not seen anything tangible or scary enough to conclude is a cult. Do they actually understand what a "Secret Cult" ? Indeed "Truth" hurts
I have just been removed from their group coz I did not attend the Passover which is great coz I just wanted to leave
What i dont understand is that everyone that is against SCJ dont follow what Jesus came to do He came to show the way and all SCJ is doing is showing the world the way!
Thank you so much for this. 🤗
I was in here for 8 Months and It was all bs. I am going to the teacher tomorrow and exposing all these Lies
I’m currently doing the course with them but I feel like they go under a different name ? I wouldn’t like to disclose their name but it is uk/London based
Dear, drop the course immediately. Salvation is already done by Jesus on the cross shedding his blood for us, Jesus gave His life. No other man made work can ever be add to what Jesus did, it is done! By the way SCJ does not teach trinity. When Jesus is not God Himself, a cult is going to replace Jesus. Only to God you ask the knowledge of His Kingdom. Use KJV bible and not other translation. God bless you and gives you the knowledge of discernment 🙏. The lier was already there in the garden tempting Eve, and took 1/3 of his angels with him, it is a war don here in the world! Put on the whole amour of God!
Isn’t it New Heaven & New Earth?
What was their name before? For it was Biblepromise.
@@palmwine2011they change their names as much as their leader changes and cherry picks scripture
None of the churches prepare their congregation for life in eternity only SCJ and they are called a cult wow!!!!
Imagine having to compete for a spot in the 144k😂😂I wasn’t going to make it
It’s giving pick me girl vibes😂😂 33:55
What are you refering to @53:08 about the teaching by joshua ? where can i find it ?
He ended up getting off about the embezzlement and COVID charges.
Really the kingdom of God needs confident people,the shincheonji your talking about is one thing that has never happened to the world there is no church in the entire world where the Bible proves the Bible other than shincheonji, thanks for leaving space for committed chosen people.
Where in the Bible does it say that the restoration of the kingdom of God doesn’t involve the ethnic Israelites anymore? You guys claim that SCJ has full understanding of the Bible but when someone like me asks you a Scripture question, you don’t respond.
@@LADY-CFCthey won't do it because they'll claim poison, a sad affair really. Discern all things yall 🙏🏼
I see they have managed to take her video down with a copyright claim. Is this available anywhere else?
Is this also called new heaven and new earth to
I think so because honestly the parallels are there
It is. I've been in the bible studies for a few weeks now and idk how I'm supposed to leave 😕
@@novaboba582 what county you in
@@denonamp I live in NYC
@@novaboba582 what's stopping you from leaving just don't turn up
Aramide's vibes and cultural references is 💯 😂 31:25
Forgive them Father they dont know what they doing none of these people got a clue what they saying on this podcast
Everything you lot are saying, can say exact same thing about all your denominations
No lol We go by the bible, SCJ is a cult that uses deception with their Cult leader and lies that go against the bible
Gosh there is a few groups that start on Eventbrite and meet me etc
What are the verses that they use to justify lying??
I wish we knew🤷🏾♂️ as far as we are all aware nothing in the Bible justifies this
@@secondnaturepodcast2838 no I mean I’m in Zion Bible Study and I’ve passed over and I’m in The creation and recreation stage of classes just before the revelation class. I’m confused right now and feeling lied to. I’m really trying to see all the verses they use. I’ve gone through Matthew 10:16, John 7 and Genesis 20, I want to know the one in Acts or Corinthians where Paul had to pretend to be a teacher of the law/gentile/ etc. to debate and convert them - please hurry, I need help - I’m suicidal and this is the only thing that’s given me hope and I feel like I’m falling back into my depression
I don’t care about what you say or what they say - I want to know what the bible says, please the sister - the ex schinjionchii member mentioned a verse - I’m so tired- I’ve got an assignment due tomorrow and my faith is having a crisis Rn - please help as soon as you’re able 🙏
@@crystalinekrys8311 hi Crystaline like we said before there are no verses so whatever examples are used are false. Satan is the father of lies, God does not lie. Jess the ex SCJ is away right now.
If you are in the uk - please call these helplines - Call 116 123 to talk to Samaritans, or email: jo@samaritans.org for a reply within 24 hours
Text "SHOUT" to 85258 to contact the Shout Crisis Text Line, or text "YM" if you're under 19.
Please don't do anything rash, your life is precious and valued by Jesus
@@crystalinekrys8311 you will urgently need to speak to someone that's not in your environment or from your Bible study or contact your local authorities Crystaline. I this time please keep safe
This is really interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience - it takes courage to come out and speak up.
Have any of you heard of a Korean church that tells you that God is a woman and that makes everything female? Are they legit?
OMG
I feel really really sorry for you hope that god will forgive you for this🙏🏾😢
It's sad that you experience anxiety about a imaginary war between your imaginary friend and imaginary enemy.
Is sad, I pray for all of you, you didnt understand the word correctly
What is it they didn't understand?
I'm afraid you're breaking your pledge sir/madam. Jokes aside, I'll pray for the lost sheep in SCJ every day so that the Lord can deliver you back to Him.
This whole podcast is filled with so much misunderstanding about SCJ’s teachings and God’s truth I don’t even know where to start 😂😂😂!!! But no joke, God will judge in the end, every single one who adds and takes away from his truth. We shall await that day. 🙏
God will save you.
And yet your promised pastor has subtracted and added himself to the Word for 40 years... the truth of the Gospel is not the truth if it has to be attained through deception. As its written, God is not a man that He should lie. The sad thing is the vast majority of SCJ members are the sweetest people, but they're just victims to indoctrination and brainwashing. I pray God will guide you to the truth.
God please give this person wisdom in Jesus’ name I pray amen