I am in Perth Aus. Thank you so much for this video. A friend back in SA has just informed me that she is involved in one of these Bible studies. I asked whether she had done any market research about it and she hadn't. I will send her this. Hope she will watch and have enough sense to leave. I pray that you will soon be free of this teaching. Once bitten, twice shy! Dan 11:35. You are a strong, Lovely Lady! Congratulations!. Jude 20 is a good Scripture to put into practice.
To everyone here feeling some type of way saying " I am intelligent and smart I don't know how I fell..." Stop!! Being intelligent does not mean you won't be a victim of these crooks. Remember they are manipulators and play with people's traumas and emotions. Don't blame yourself, literally everyone can go through this. And also your intelligence is the reason you here commenting using past tense. ❤🎉
This is true the only people that can avoid cults are like super neurotic people but the rest of the temperaments that most humans have including iq has nothing to do with it.
I agree with you. I went to their church unknowingly. I attended some of the Bible study sessions. They invited me to come witness what happens in Passover for those who passed the Bible course. I didn't pass because I stopped attending with dedication the moment I realized they teach a false doctrine. I get there and find out it's a whole church and people become members on that Passover. I was one of the new recruits and no one told me that. I was going to a Passover celebration. I found out on that day that this is a church
Kunini ndisithi “Yoh”. I came across your tiktok yesterday and came here to watch. I also left the church yesterday, was meant to write my “passover exam” tomorrow. Thank you for sharing.
I’m here to talk 🫶🏽 leaving is hard but staying out is harder but the sooner one leaves the sooner you can get back to a healthy life again . God can heal anything
I’m 6 months in with the bible study, and I have also done the Passover church ceremony 2 weeks ago. Last Sunday (14/04/2024) was my second church service in Mount Zion in their Randburg branch after the passover and I told my review teachers that I’m just hearing the preaching during the service and I cannot understand a word, even if they translate it from Korean to English. They’ve inboxed me yesterday and invited to take me out on a coffee date in Ferndale Republic so they can explain all the questions I also have that didn’t sit well with me that were said by their general leader during that service. Told my husband about this for the first time and he said he had a dream about me on this Monday whereby we had a soul conversation (I didn’t open my mouth at all) and I told him in that dream that I’m questioning the Church and I’m confused and that my soul isn’t feeling in sync with God when I’m physically there. And that to me was a wakeup call. God is trying to save me at all costs and is using my husband as well to rescue me from this before I go deeper and become brainwashed. I don’t know how to even break it down to my parents as all of this is unveiling itself all in one week. Thank you for sharing your story.❤ I hope I’ll have the courage to share mine after I heal. From April going forward, I’m just going to focus on my healing journey. This can happen to ANYONE.
Enkosi sisi for sharing this. Just today I was in their online info session for a bible study that's about to start, but as with my norm I googled them and boom, you came up. Ndyabulela for your bravery and awareness
yooooh, I'm from Kenya, and it's like you're literally speaking my story ....this is crazy,woah! They do this in Kenya as well...I thank God I've left but yooh , this is mind-blowing 🤯🤯. Thank you for sharing.
Yoh!!!! Your video helped me. They approached me, 2 ladies, a black woman and a white woman in pick n pay and as I was asking questions the name of the church and (you) popped in my mind, 🚩Because they couldn't answer my question. It's not an organization, it doesn't have a name, they don't have a WhatsApp group etc, which seemed so strange to me. I watched your video early this year and then end of May boom!!!! They seem so genuine, I kept contact for some weeks and when they spoke of the 9 months bible course during a zoom meeting, I had questions. I then asked some questions about it then I knew these were the same people. I thank God I came across your video early or I would have wasted my time and virtues and could have gotten into a mess difficult to come out of. I just blocked the sister who invited me
Didn’t think I’d watch the whole hour + video 😅 but it was truly insightful. I was invited but the pressure those guys put and the lying rang the bells to me.. someone close to me is deep in the church .. so I thought I should listen .. really informative!! Thank you!
I left the Church last year December, after been in the church for a year. Till this day I have never told anyone about the church, they always reminded me to pay tithe in order to be in the kingdom of God. I am glad I came across this because to this day they always call and want to share the word of God with me, I am glad i can cut all this ties. Jesus shall see me through, in the name of Jesus. He has come to save me and he gave me life and I shall serve him for the rest of my life.
The crying and frustration and depression is something we all experience as believers, never having been exposed to this cult. You're normal, don't worry. Thank you for sharing this testimony. It will help many... The Lord bless you and keep you
Funny how I was about to join my first Shincheonji online bible study something told me to search about it and know what I am getting yourself into. Thank you for sharing this message even though it was posted 2 years ago, it still applies because this people have not stopped, they are even inviting us worse they even go to campus... knowing that students go through a lot, they take advantage of that. I will also share about this around my university.
You're making a huge mistake, read the Bible to understand. Don't believe this girl, she too was part of Shincheonji and all the claims she's making are false because she lacks the knowledge, Shincheonji is the only place that testifies about revelation and I think you should have continued with the course so that you understand yourself
Hi, could you tell me more about their operations on campus? I'm writing a novel about these pseudo-christian cults. I'd love to get more information from you, if you will.
Mahle this is brave. I pray it reaches many more people. Despite sharing the same experience, I am still so shocked and mind-boggled when it comes to lento. Well done and thank you.
I’m currently in this course. Only one month in and I knew something was off from the start but the way they kept encouraging me? I just recently found out that my facilitator knew the person who introduced me to the first Zoom meeting. They played it off as if they didn’t know each other until I came across the “friends” social media and saw kuthi no marn these two people definitely know each other. Before that there were too many coincidences between the two that I couldn’t deny they knew each other. The way they speak to you about the word and how they explain it and sometimes it’s being explained so fast, I find it hard to even keep up. And they speak to us like we are children and that didn’t sit right with me from the very start. I never liked that. That’s how they brainwash you because they make you repeat things over and over again with them. They make sure kuthi it’s being logged into your mind.😂😂 I’m SO thankful I’m a person that questions everything and I’m so faithful to my personal devotion to God through prayer!! Yoh thank you Jesus! My question and resistance to tell them about my everyday life definitely annoys them but hey thank God I’m not someone that likes to talk or make friends at all😭😭 They really do play on your traumas. That’s how the facilitator got me to think and wonder more about God and finally introduced me to the course. The way they lie and use your personal traumas is not cool at all. I hope this leader of them doesn’t live long so they can see that this person they follow will indeed die and was not sent by God.
I watched the Netflix documentary on this cult and didn't realise that they were operating in South Africa...I'm in shock!! I'm grateful that you made it out, your testimony is powerful and you are so articulate. Thank you for this video
@@melaluxe8195in this church do they wear black and white and they are so secretive about they church , ?? I think im in the same ship man i need to cancel
I’m here because of Tiktok🥺. Firstly I am so sorry you went through this, I just cannot fathom how you are feeling. You’re very strong and always believe that GOD is with you. It was a journey, and in good faith you trusted because of your love for God. Do not feel otherwise, only thing you can do to fight this is to strengthen yourself and dust yourself off and make sure uyabuyela kuNkulunkulu. Pray mama, pray even when it is difficult. Even if it is you imagining yourself younger in your room praying, picture yourself lapho and start the prayer from there - it’ll give you comfort that you’re paying to yena yena uJesu. You’ll be okay. Sending you loads of love and strength ♥️♥️
Yho i recently changed my number because they wouldn't stop calling me and inviting me to their seminars and outings but I'd decline because I had things scheduled on those days . thank you for this sisi ❤
Thank you for this video, I left three years ago and is still struggling with getting over what happened. I don't talk about my experience as I feel ashamed, I am a intelligent person and how did I allow myself to be brainwashed like that. I often think of ways to expose them, to prevent others from making the same mistake But I think I am not brave enough, so I applause you for having the courage to make this video. Stay strong you are blessed and highly favoured 💕
Thank you so much for even commenting here. I am also very happy you got out. It takes time but I still believe that God has your back even in all of this. I’m always here for chats when you have those moments.
It has nothing to do with intelligence, they work on you spiritually first before trapping you that is why we must read the word and pray for discernement.
The part about selling drugs??😂 this was very enlightening to watch, and I love your storytelling. The enemy doesn't come in Horns and an ugly face. He comes in very appealing ways. I'm so glad tou got out and you le a red the truth. And I hope this reaches more people on the cult because they need and deserve true salvation. May God exert His vengeance on these false prophets, because they are responsible for sending so many souls astray😢
I came to this video from TikTok thanks you enlightening us on this. I will also pass the message and warn as many as I can I. My circles. May God bless you
Thank you for sharing, and we thank God for His grace over your life that has pulled you out of it.Also, for using you for our spiritual awakening. More grace upon you as God continues to use for His glory in Jesus' mighty name.Amen 🙏 ❤
thank you so much Mahle for sharing your story u have saved so many lives ,I was once approached by this lady in cape town CBD she asked if I was a born again Christian I responded yes ,she became so excited asking me about Jesus i then felt uneasy as the questions were deep and she was giving desperate vibes i said i was in a rush ,she asked for my number and she has been calling nonstop the last call I received they said classes will be on zoom online will I be able to join I said no I blocked them as i did not trust their consistency and desperation. thank you Mahle for the awareness!!
I went through the same experience at the same cult and in Cape Town in 2019 as well!! We probably were in different groups. I am glad that you eventually got out and that you are great. I hope that you did not give up on God. Much love
Oh my goodness! Thank you for your obedience and making people aware. I'm glad I looked up the church, I recently got invited to a meeting on zoom. It was basically an introduction to the bible study program, some of things that they were saying did not sit well with me. I must say they are really good(as the enemy is very smart), the word does say in Matthew 24:24- "For there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, in so much that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect ."
Yoh you are right. Like I was excited but having a relationship with God helps a lot. Because you will eventually learn the truth. Its been three lessons but I researched and hayi immediately I remembered
I left classes when they introduced the concept of the new John. I wa sin for a few months and genuinely believed. I thank God for protecting me and helping me with discernment. I recently met a fellow ex-classmate (we were both recruited by the Cape Town Northern suburbs / Parow branch) who shared your testimony with me and we are both thanking you for sharing your story. God loves you. Thank you for shining light on this. May God bless you and keep you close to Him.
Hi there I was scrolling then I came across this video guys I am currently attending their bible study..I started in January and ..last week I told my mentor that I want to tell my husband about this word of God I have found and my mentor was like no no no don't tell him yet.....Now I will drop this week on Thursday I won't attend...Thanks for Sharing guys.
Really, these things happen? There was a young girl I met in town and she was recruiting me for some Bible study which they conducted on zoom. I attended the first one and felt like they were not deep into the things of God, they were Just talking about basic stuff man which I felt like I'm way matured for that so I never attended again. The girl called a few times and gave up when I told her that I'm also attending Bible study classes at my church. Something was a bit off about her though.
There's a very young girl that tried to recruit me and I know she's still with them, I Just don't know how I can help her get out of it, maybe you guys who have experienced all this might find a way. I can send her number to someone willing to help her, she looks not older than 16.
Hi sister I am Nirmala from India. I was also trapped in this but its just for 4 months and within this time I could discern that they are not the right people .I left. Its just happening in my life this 2023 April I joined this online course from a advertisement that came in my bible app. But now All Glory to Jesus He has taken me out in just 4 months. I heard your full story ANSI am so thrilled how God delivered you. Amen God Bless you.
i can't believe it.... omw... watching I was ready to speak up and felt a whole lot "defensive"! but I am glad I watched it to the end. I really found out the church was way before they revealed and thought that because soo much of what they said was backed up by scripture it had to be the absolute truth. I left just before "passover" I was actually "pushed back" because I felt I wasn't measuring up.... I felt like I was not comprehending because had so many questions... luckily after I dropped out they had not pursued me. Still, i constantly had the urge to go back like I'm falling short and missing out on Gods grace. My intention was to fully commit and "make it". After i have watched your video i now believe i have complete clarity.... asking like "where is GOD?" but at least now i have the truth to move on with. I am so grateful.
I just left them recently and OMFG you explained my experience and what they've been teaching to the T. Except for the fact i went against them and told my family about it when it affected my marks at uni. I'm so glad i found these videos and just basically doing some research on this cult (something i should've done before)and being mind blown😢 I thank my mom and God for the spirit of discernment. I want to share with others ESPECIALLY UNI STUDENTS about this cult and why you can't trust just anyone with your personal life. God bless you 🙏
Thank you for sharing this. There's a person who's been trying to recruit me to join these lessons. I met him at the mall and when I told my partner about it, he said it just seems weird. So I didn't go. Last night the person who invited me sent me a flyer because now the lessons are going to be held online. I then googled them and now I'm here......yooh. Enkosi, mntase.
Thank you for this....When i stopped and starter researching i came across Jess as well, but hearing this from someone from Cape Town as well, makes me so happy that i am not alone too....
Hey 💛 You are not alone at all. Take it a day at a time as well. You don't need to have it all figured out to leave. Do more research and make the right choice for you
I have already left months back....i blocked them all from my phone and whatsapp. The only issue is my mom is still there😟 i tried telling her the truth about them but as you know she wont listen to me. So i just let her be, hoping that in time uzozibonela naye
Thank you for sharing this...I was approached by a lady and gentleman at a mall in Bryanston and didn't think any of it as they appeared so kind until they sent me the link to the Zoom meeting with an infographic about the lessons...Almost immediately noticed the course is presented by Hope Church ZA (a branch of Shincheonji Church of Jesus) and the red flags instantly started waving and I googled them. The fact that the people you tried to recruit didn't budge was God at work because He knew He was going to bring you out. I am shooketh...I pray this reaches many more and that God keeps building you up♥
Let me just say, you nailed this spot on! I went through the exact same experience in Cape Town in 2017. My entire life has been centered around Jesus and when this happened, I too started questioning everything, I questioned them and they could not stand it - eventually I got myself kicked out literally during class, because of that. At the time I couldn't understand, cried as if someone had died and afterwards I too felt so lost. Only after I was kicked out, I found out what the church was and literally confronted my friend who recruited me, with receipts and everything. Lol, guess what? yep? she used "wisdom" on me, even though there was a video with our one friend standing next to "New John" I found on a graduation ceremony on UA-cam. We are not friends today and I'm okay with that. I've always found stories of people from other countries, but could never find one from Cape Town, just to see if I wasn't delusional...but look at GOD. I actually smiled and laughed listening to this, because it was so accurate. So happy that you got out...you'll get through it, it's tough...it takes time, but you'll find peace and fall even more in love with Christ.
This is what I needed today. Thank you so much. This is why I made the video as well. I couldn't find close to home and I was looking for someone to relate to. I'm very encouraged by the last paragraph you wrote. It gives me home
@@mahle_majola I'm glad I could offer some sort of encouragement, because I never had it at the time, no one understood, so I knew I had to say something. Knowing I'm not alone gives me even more peace/clarity. All I can say is, thank you for sharing your story❤️🙏
One of my close friends recruited me and we’re no longer friends too. I am hurt and feel betrayed by the fact that he recruited me and used “wisdom” on me. I almost lost my relationship with my family and my wife because of this cult. Sometimes I feel so dumb for allowing myself to be brainwashed
The lady who spoke about the church is Babalwa, but she did not go into detail about everything. It is great seeing your video and you go into more detail.
2 years later and im only seeing this today cause its viral on tiktok and omw the questions that are circling in my mind right now are going to drive me crazy. God is indeed our saviour may your wounds heal and may you get stronger by the day❤❤❤
Amen thank you for your testimony. I was also lured in by a bible study. After 6 months they revealed their truth & I felt soo betrayed. I never logged back in to class. I am trying to turn back to Gods word but as you said I'm taking it a day at a time.
I'm so sorry you went through this. You don't deserve to feel like this. It's so unfair that they used the Word of God as a weapon. I'm currently in the same situation, actually. I joined their Equipped bible study course, and the more I learn about them on Twitter, TikTok, and UA-cam, the more horrified I am.
What is the truth.. all of you guys are vague, I have never been to church since I was 9.. for me they are a meer a game where I will play and sleep with their women...What do they do
It was very brave of you to speak about this. I am a Christian and don't like it when people use the name of the Lord in vain but it would have taken me a lot to do what you did, thanks for the video. It will be shared and know that your effort for awareness is not in vain. I also met this other guy around Khayelitsha who asked me questions and I responded. I felt uneasy when he said the devil rules the world and that's how he failed to recruit me
Psalms 24:1 New King James Version A Psalm of David. The earth is the LORD’s, and all its fullness, The world and those who dwell therein. Also saw red flags once this was said. People may say whatever they like but you cannot argue against scripture!
Thank you so much for posting this, Mahle. I left as well and share the same pain, doubts and days where I'm down. I am so glad you got out. Though much of that time feels like a blur, when you made the comment about telling people you were selling drugs, it sparked a memory. I think we were in the same class initially (I had a little white car if that's a reminder)...I sometimes wonder if anyone else I was with is free now, so it's comforting to hear that you escaped that space. Wishing you strength and nothing but the best ❤️
God bless you Mahle. Thank you for sharing your story, for sharing the truth. I believe you & applaud your courage for speaking up and warning others. I attended classes for a few weeks and The Holy Spirit told me to leave. Thank God for gifting us with the spirit of discernment. Jesus loves us. God loves us all the same & Holy Spirit is here for us all. THANK YOU!!! ❤❤❤
Thank you for this! I was approached at Woolworths last year by some lady talking about this bible study done through her church. I went through a challenging time this year and i remembered the lady. I then contacted her thinking id get back to reading the word. I attended the first Zoom class there were four people in the class and then after the class they asked if we would like to continue with the bible study, that night I said I would think about it. The next day I sent a message saying I would join the bible study and asked whats the next steps. The girl that had approached me last year was in that first class, but then for the second class she told me there will be another bible study teacher and a small group. HOWEVER the first official class it was just me and a different lady, I was confused because they said it would be smaller groups taking classes. She would act nice, ask about my life, now in hindsight its giving major red flags because from day 1 she started acting like we are best friends like I have known her forever. Then came the second lesson with her and I found myself correcting certain things she was saying about some scriptures ANOTHER RED FLAG, I am not an expert but there are some things i believe a bible study teacher would know. Something told me to google the church and OH MY WORD. I JUST WANT TO THANK GOD FOR SAVING ME FROM JOINING A CULT AND RUINING MY LIFE. I blocked ALL OF THEM. I pray more and more people see this and are led by God's truth. I wont ever put myself through this or return to this! thank you for your story!!!
Damn went through the same thing just recently, luckily my friend did the research for me and i blocked them yesterday. More than 5 people have called me since and have been declining their calls.
we thank God for the spirit of descernment He gave u ,please continue seeking for the truth mostly through word (bible) and the truth shall set tou free
I did the same thing last year. I went to two Zoom classes and asked what ministry it was associated with. I Googled New Heaven New Earth church and immediately confronted the lady who invited me. She immediately got defensive saying those websites and people were lies and liars. She kept trying to ware me down. She stopped asking me to join. Just last week had a FB message asking me to join a Bible study. I called her out and explained no I don't want to join. She wasn't respond back. Glad you got out.
Thank you cc for sharing. This is the same as the church I was going to for a longest time . God is the Apostle, who do everything that God does . Everything is asked from him. Jesus is never mentioned. When singing the name Jesus is removed and replaced by 'him' Apostle. You are also taught for 3 months, before being accepted as the member. If you are not in that church you are not going to heaven so they say . I was also a senior officer there . I regret one thing , some of my family members are still there . But I pray everyday for God to open their eyes. I thank Jesus for opening mine and my daughters.
Its hard to explain this to someone who has never encountered these people. I went for three to four months but my suspicions wouldn't let me continue at the end. They could not respond to some of the questions that I asked (and towards the end I could not follow their logic). At first, I was impressed but by the time they got to Mount Zion and Pastor John/the promised one, I knew they were full of poop.
I’m CURRENTLY going through this! A friend invited me to a Bible study class last year early Dec. She’s a very lovely person so I obliged, it would be a zoom class nje. Next thing, they inviting us for this study course that would be 8 months long, they start asking you to do a beginner’s class immediately. I reluctantly oblige, to me it had all the trappings of a cult but I was curious. I was determined to not be pressured to show up to everything, I was determined to argue and scrutinise everything. Surprisingly, i still make it to the actual class even after missing the first batch of lessons and telling them repeatedly that my life won’t allow this being on zoom week twice a week. Any way, I’ve seen it all starting, I googled them as soon as I could see the logos of their church on their zoom slides. Some “teacher” started telling people to stop listening to or reading other Bible sources so they aren’t confused and that whole “chosen person” narrative is being introduced which I’ve been querying them without any answers 😏 Thank you for raising awareness and confirming to me that I’ve been right about this. I was starting to feel bad for how cynical I’m being and how stupid I think everyone in those calls is. I was feeling bad for the girl leading our class coz she’s really nice and diligent and kind to me, but I’ve been cynical and hell bent on being difficult from day one.
I stayed despite googling my former cult in the beginning as well . I also fell for the love bombing. They really show you kindness and support at first. I hope you make it out❤.
Here because two christian girls approached me, who i thought was genuine only to offer me a FREE bible study course. Thank god i done my research before signing up as i found out this is a cult
I just got out of this after 3 months. They told me it was a 8 to 9 month Bible Study at a 2 time a week pace and it soon got upped to 3 times a week. The scheduling through me off a bit, but once we started discussing Revelation and their interpretations of it I knew something was off. Glad I left and saw what was wrong. Glad you did too
Eish babe, these people are still at it! 😂 I accidentally joined eziway, but I noticed quickly (within weeks!) ukhuti if I am to believe in their interpretation of the parables, then nakanjani I must believe in the one who overcomes 🤔 so I started to question and ke I'm a researcher so I started to research and found out that the whole thing is a cult 😂😂😂
i was almost kicked out for researching lol😂 was devasted when i told my mentor that i found SCJ online and the lessons are true. They threatened to kick me out😂😂😂 kante i should have gone deeper
I have watched your video today but it has been in my mind to leave Shincheonji, i have made up my mind now. Thanks so much because i have been not feeling at ease
Thank you for sharing your story... I just had an epiphany at the end of your story which is that the realization you got at this Shincheonji place is the same realization I got with religion in general.
Thank you for this I recently had the very same experience. I went to the classes partook in the graduation the whole time feeling uneasy and forcing myself because I didn’t want to be the one who didn’t believe. But I felt God and the deeper I got in Shincheonji the more I saw it wasn’t God. They couldn’t answer a lot of questions and there was a lot of deception and manipulation by the members. When I realized they had members posing as new students that was my last straw. When ever I listened to Lee Man He speak and his description of going to heaven it always made my spirit feel uneasy
They act like they're are new and it's funny how you can notice 🤣 like really,they never met but they agree way too much with each other. They don't even care if you are not feeling well,they'll still get you to attend. Thank God for the discernment that God granted
I haven’t gone half way into the video but all I can say is that I’ve definitely had a similar experience in my walk with Christ, I’ve had organizations use my hunger for God to indoctrinate me into a spiritual life that I had no idea even existed and became removed from God.
LMAOOOOOO this place is hilarious tbh lol! 🤣🤣 They target students in Durban, they're based in the Musgrave area, well when I last knew them that's where they were based.... I participated out of curiosity for a few months but I was never really into it, I just wanted to reconnect with God.... Lol the new John part piqued my curiosity the most lol. I don't think they're bad ppl, they just don't seem to be aware that this is a cult situation coz everyone there seems normal enough. I hope ppl got out though coz some were actually deep in it. The cherry on top is that they mention the cult accusations themselves and ask that the ppl in the church/Bible studies don't pay the haters any mind lol. I thought it was weird but harmless, I haven't finished this video but so glad you are sharing.
Thanks for sharing this .. more people need to be aware of this “church”. I used to attend their “bible studies” in DUT Durban 2019 because I thought they were true believers . They started in the old testament and it seemed like things were going well till they started saying stuff that contradicted the bible. Of course I had a lot of questions that they couldn’t answer; I was told to wait till things are revealed later or some things are metaphorical. I noticed that their interpretation of the Bible is falsehood. I was not at peace and confused , I told my “leader” my concerns with what they were teaching and of course he never gave direct answers which is when I decided to stop attending . He told me they only have the truth of God's word, I’m rejecting God’s grace 😂 & I need to have new wine skin etc Ended up blocking him because he was bombarding me with messages to make me guilty and It didn’t work . I thank God. Fast word 2023 that I learn it’s a cult. Discernment is really needed and awareness about these cults infiltrating with false doctrines.
One guy said that to me also😢😂 mind you I was very much Agnostic at that time. He shouted me and said I’m rejecting God when I decided to quit because of my studies
All I can is during the Lockdown, God revealed a lot of things to us about the Church as a whole. I was in a different church but my eyes were opened during the Lockdown. I believe it's time these so called men of God get exposed and we get back to God and not idolize them so much. Thank God you left and may God continue to guide and protect you
Thanks for sharing your message,glad you found your way out! These guys are many all over the world.... May the lord have mercy on them an all people who get involved.... Let's pray that the word leads them to the truth.
The whole "you're the chosen one" I had a problem with that because I'm a firm believer that if God created all of us why would He choose some and leave others, if that's the case then I have a problem with the God that is being preached about. It's things like these that got them wanting to cast the evil spirit out of me lol
I feel like a lot of churches are cults honestly. I remember visiting one of these big churches (I was recruited in a similar fashion) and I remember them making me do a prayer to give my life to Christ then I was told to go into the back where they were going to explain to us what just happen and make us sign some documents to officially join the church. I was spiritually awake and asked them questions which they obviously couldn't answer. Haai mina I didn't go back to those classes because firstly I was tricked into the first lesson. I've been to so many churches where I felt like nooooo mun this is not right to a point where it was thought I had evil spirits. Honestly I question everything, even the very scripture they use to support their narrative. I just stopped going to church ngl, I practice my faith in my bedroom and I know there's no fellowship && but I swear a lot churches are running cults and I want no part in that.
A "church" that has "founder" who is a man like you and me, run from that "church." It's a cult, they come in different shapes and forms. There is only one founder of THE Church, and his name is Jesus Christ. We can fellowship together as Christians, have a leader/pastor and elders, etc. The problem starts once there's one man at the top who is the founder and GO.
There were several times in the gospels when the disciples got things very badly wrong. The Bible carries on after the Ascension of Jesus because the early church got things very badly wrong The perfect church does not exist on Earth. If you can prove me wrong and find this church DO NOT JOIN IT!!! If you do you will spoil it.
I was unsuspecting only after 6 months I realised something was terribly wrong after realizing a lie and lie after lie... then started rethinking the doctrines that I had been suppressing in order to maintain friendships. one day (last. week) I woke up and told myself enough of that rubbish and stopped going. they started gaslighting me. It's a cult with a capital C. I am in Cape Town and feel sorry for the young people I left in that cult😢
It happened to me as student in Korea.. I was so blessed to leave before the real bible course has started but still it gave me so many doubts about what is real... they got my friend too and he was depressed so much after because he was much deeper into their teachings... really SCJ are everywhere and we need to be so careful.. I am so happy now more and more people are talking about them! Thank you so much for sharing!
Thank God for the ability to get out and share.I thank GOD for my unapproachable face haven't met such hate for life and the word kodwa u Thixo mkhulu all the time
Still recovering from the horrific experience. What pisses me off still is the fact that I saw the first warning sign which was as learners we should not to tell anyone about the bible study because we must protect the word. How the hell can one be restricted from sharing Gods amazing word? Hai man! But I continued with the bible study because I wanted to know God better. Even though it took me a long time to get out , I am glad I am done with Shincheonji and I do believe things will get better. Thanks so much Mahle.
Hai i thank God for revealing this, i have just started after being recruited on social media, stragest thing is everytime i have to be on this zoom meeting there would always be some network issues and stuff angizwa nix... so yeah thank you for this and God bless you for exposing these strategies and works...
I literally left about 2 days ago, after finding out where we actually getting this lessons from. And im so prepared to make everyone aware of these people, using God and how hurt He would feel if we dont attend to manipulate people💔
😮 They told me the name of the church in English but I could see ukuthi kunento e off lana 🤔. They want to occupy all our time. We meet 3 times a week😮. They make us feel like we don't know the word of God. We can't have access to the recordings because of copyright issues. 😂 Thank you Mahle this really opened my eyes 👀
Listening to your story I am amazed at all these new cults & how they work. I am Namibian & I don't even understand your venacular language but I watched everything. There is a friend who I believe got involved in this cult during Covid time. She literally disappeared from church & any church gathering & would distance herself from most of the people she knows. The more I listened to your Testimony the more convinced I am that this is where she disappeared to. I am still praying for her & trusting that God opens her eyes.
Thank you so much for this video. Unfortunately my girlfriend is still within the cult and I am working on a way to take her out, please pray for us.
Girl this is what I’m going through right now 😢 wow you literally saved my life. Thank you Jesus
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Saaaameeee
@@karabodikobe thank God you escaped 😢❤️
@@bvumazonke both of us mama! Only by God's grace
I am in Perth Aus. Thank you so much for this video. A friend back in SA has just informed me that she is involved in one of these Bible studies. I asked whether she had done any market research about it and she hadn't. I will send her this. Hope she will watch and have enough sense to leave.
I pray that you will soon be free of this teaching. Once bitten, twice shy!
Dan 11:35. You are a strong, Lovely Lady! Congratulations!. Jude 20 is a good Scripture to put into practice.
To everyone here feeling some type of way saying " I am intelligent and smart I don't know how I fell..." Stop!! Being intelligent does not mean you won't be a victim of these crooks. Remember they are manipulators and play with people's traumas and emotions. Don't blame yourself, literally everyone can go through this.
And also your intelligence is the reason you here commenting using past tense. ❤🎉
This is true the only people that can avoid cults are like super neurotic people but the rest of the temperaments that most humans have including iq has nothing to do with it.
I agree with you. I went to their church unknowingly. I attended some of the Bible study sessions. They invited me to come witness what happens in Passover for those who passed the Bible course. I didn't pass because I stopped attending with dedication the moment I realized they teach a false doctrine. I get there and find out it's a whole church and people become members on that Passover. I was one of the new recruits and no one told me that. I was going to a Passover celebration. I found out on that day that this is a church
Kunini ndisithi “Yoh”. I came across your tiktok yesterday and came here to watch. I also left the church yesterday, was meant to write my “passover exam” tomorrow. Thank you for sharing.
I’m here to talk 🫶🏽 leaving is hard but staying out is harder but the sooner one leaves the sooner you can get back to a healthy life again . God can heal anything
I’m so glad I found out about this. I was literally about to fill in the details for the bible course as in a few hours ago. Hebanna
I’m 6 months in with the bible study, and I have also done the Passover church ceremony 2 weeks ago. Last Sunday (14/04/2024) was my second church service in Mount Zion in their Randburg branch after the passover and I told my review teachers that I’m just hearing the preaching during the service and I cannot understand a word, even if they translate it from Korean to English. They’ve inboxed me yesterday and invited to take me out on a coffee date in Ferndale Republic so they can explain all the questions I also have that didn’t sit well with me that were said by their general leader during that service. Told my husband about this for the first time and he said he had a dream about me on this Monday whereby we had a soul conversation (I didn’t open my mouth at all) and I told him in that dream that I’m questioning the Church and I’m confused and that my soul isn’t feeling in sync with God when I’m physically there. And that to me was a wakeup call. God is trying to save me at all costs and is using my husband as well to rescue me from this before I go deeper and become brainwashed. I don’t know how to even break it down to my parents as all of this is unveiling itself all in one week. Thank you for sharing your story.❤ I hope I’ll have the courage to share mine after I heal. From April going forward, I’m just going to focus on my healing journey. This can happen to ANYONE.
Ma'am, my facilitator and I met at Ferndale for about a month 😢. I didn't go to deep thank you to my aunt.
Enkosi sisi for sharing this. Just today I was in their online info session for a bible study that's about to start, but as with my norm I googled them and boom, you came up. Ndyabulela for your bravery and awareness
Thank you so much for googling. That will really help a lot of us.
yooooh, I'm from Kenya, and it's like you're literally speaking my story ....this is crazy,woah! They do this in Kenya as well...I thank God I've left but yooh , this is mind-blowing 🤯🤯. Thank you for sharing.
Yoh!!!! Your video helped me. They approached me, 2 ladies, a black woman and a white woman in pick n pay and as I was asking questions the name of the church and (you) popped in my mind, 🚩Because they couldn't answer my question. It's not an organization, it doesn't have a name, they don't have a WhatsApp group etc, which seemed so strange to me.
I watched your video early this year and then end of May boom!!!! They seem so genuine, I kept contact for some weeks and when they spoke of the 9 months bible course during a zoom meeting, I had questions. I then asked some questions about it then I knew these were the same people. I thank God I came across your video early or I would have wasted my time and virtues and could have gotten into a mess difficult to come out of. I just blocked the sister who invited me
Same , it’s my friend who invited me . I just blocked me
Didn’t think I’d watch the whole hour + video 😅 but it was truly insightful. I was invited but the pressure those guys put and the lying rang the bells to me.. someone close to me is deep in the church .. so I thought I should listen .. really informative!! Thank you!
I left the Church last year December, after been in the church for a year. Till this day I have never told anyone about the church, they always reminded me to pay tithe in order to be in the kingdom of God. I am glad I came across this because to this day they always call and want to share the word of God with me, I am glad i can cut all this ties.
Jesus shall see me through, in the name of Jesus. He has come to save me and he gave me life and I shall serve him for the rest of my life.
The crying and frustration and depression is something we all experience as believers, never having been exposed to this cult. You're normal, don't worry. Thank you for sharing this testimony. It will help many... The Lord bless you and keep you
Funny how I was about to join my first Shincheonji online bible study something told me to search about it and know what I am getting yourself into. Thank you for sharing this message even though it was posted 2 years ago, it still applies because this people have not stopped, they are even inviting us worse they even go to campus... knowing that students go through a lot, they take advantage of that. I will also share about this around my university.
You're making a huge mistake, read the Bible to understand. Don't believe this girl, she too was part of Shincheonji and all the claims she's making are false because she lacks the knowledge, Shincheonji is the only place that testifies about revelation and I think you should have continued with the course so that you understand yourself
Hi, could you tell me more about their operations on campus? I'm writing a novel about these pseudo-christian cults. I'd love to get more information from you, if you will.
Some of the words I couldn't Understand. Thanks for bringing this to the light.
THIS VIDEO NEEDS TO BE SHARED ALL OVER THE WORLD 🌎
Mahle this is brave. I pray it reaches many more people. Despite sharing the same experience, I am still so shocked and mind-boggled when it comes to lento. Well done and thank you.
Thank you for telling your story. I've been doing the bible course for the past two months, and I never suspected. Thank God I dodged a bullet.
God made you go through it so you could save people like us .
Glad you turned your pain to ministry.
Yessss! It’s also in Manchester. I did Bible study for over a month. Then God directed me here.
God doesn’t tempt people, at all. Stop saying those things
I’m currently in this course. Only one month in and I knew something was off from the start but the way they kept encouraging me? I just recently found out that my facilitator knew the person who introduced me to the first Zoom meeting. They played it off as if they didn’t know each other until I came across the “friends” social media and saw kuthi no marn these two people definitely know each other. Before that there were too many coincidences between the two that I couldn’t deny they knew each other.
The way they speak to you about the word and how they explain it and sometimes it’s being explained so fast, I find it hard to even keep up. And they speak to us like we are children and that didn’t sit right with me from the very start. I never liked that. That’s how they brainwash you because they make you repeat things over and over again with them. They make sure kuthi it’s being logged into your mind.😂😂 I’m SO thankful I’m a person that questions everything and I’m so faithful to my personal devotion to God through prayer!! Yoh thank you Jesus! My question and resistance to tell them about my everyday life definitely annoys them but hey thank God I’m not someone that likes to talk or make friends at all😭😭
They really do play on your traumas. That’s how the facilitator got me to think and wonder more about God and finally introduced me to the course. The way they lie and use your personal traumas is not cool at all. I hope this leader of them doesn’t live long so they can see that this person they follow will indeed die and was not sent by God.
I watched the Netflix documentary on this cult and didn't realise that they were operating in South Africa...I'm in shock!! I'm grateful that you made it out, your testimony is powerful and you are so articulate. Thank you for this video
What’s it called please
@@hannahh190 "In The Name of God: A Holy Betrayal"
@@melaluxe8195in this church do they wear black and white and they are so secretive about they church , ?? I think im in the same ship man i need to cancel
They are everywhere 😭 even Netherlands, India, Nigeria , the USA. It’s scary and crazy
Such an eye opening story, thank you for sharing, this will indeed help alot of people.
I’m here because of Tiktok🥺. Firstly I am so sorry you went through this, I just cannot fathom how you are feeling. You’re very strong and always believe that GOD is with you. It was a journey, and in good faith you trusted because of your love for God. Do not feel otherwise, only thing you can do to fight this is to strengthen yourself and dust yourself off and make sure uyabuyela kuNkulunkulu. Pray mama, pray even when it is difficult. Even if it is you imagining yourself younger in your room praying, picture yourself lapho and start the prayer from there - it’ll give you comfort that you’re paying to yena yena uJesu. You’ll be okay. Sending you loads of love and strength ♥️♥️
From TikTok, you are such a good story teller your voice is so gentle ❤
Thank you 😊
Yho i recently changed my number because they wouldn't stop calling me and inviting me to their seminars and outings but I'd decline because I had things scheduled on those days . thank you for this sisi ❤
Thank you for this video, I left three years ago and is still struggling with getting over what happened. I don't talk about my experience as I feel ashamed, I am a intelligent person and how did I allow myself to be brainwashed like that. I often think of ways to expose them, to prevent others from making the same mistake
But I think I am not brave enough, so I applause you for having the courage to make this video. Stay strong you are blessed and highly favoured 💕
Thank you so much for even commenting here. I am also very happy you got out. It takes time but I still believe that God has your back even in all of this. I’m always here for chats when you have those moments.
It can happen to anyone, even the most intelligent. Be patient with yourself ❤.
It has nothing to do with intelligence, they work on you spiritually first before trapping you that is why we must read the word and pray for discernement.
I pray for Almighty God to comfort you in Jesus Mighty name 🎉❤
To expose what? The truth?
Thank you for sharing. I left a month ago after 4 months of severe anxiety. I thank Jesus who saved me yet again
The part about selling drugs??😂 this was very enlightening to watch, and I love your storytelling. The enemy doesn't come in Horns and an ugly face. He comes in very appealing ways. I'm so glad tou got out and you le a red the truth. And I hope this reaches more people on the cult because they need and deserve true salvation. May God exert His vengeance on these false prophets, because they are responsible for sending so many souls astray😢
So proud of you my love. Articulate and inspiring ♥️ thank you for sharing your story and exposing SCJ
Hayini! Ndiyaqala uyiva. I’m glad God enlightened your soul and you were able to take yourself out of it.
I came to this video from TikTok thanks you enlightening us on this. I will also pass the message and warn as many as I can I. My circles. May God bless you
Thank you for sharing, and we thank God for His grace over your life that has pulled you out of it.Also, for using you for our spiritual awakening. More grace upon you as God continues to use for His glory in Jesus' mighty name.Amen 🙏 ❤
thank you so much Mahle for sharing your story u have saved so many lives ,I was once approached by this lady in cape town CBD she asked if I was a born again Christian I responded yes ,she became so excited asking me about Jesus i then felt uneasy as the questions were deep and she was giving desperate vibes i said i was in a rush ,she asked for my number and she has been calling nonstop the last call I received they said classes will be on zoom online will I be able to join I said no I blocked them as i did not trust their consistency and desperation. thank you Mahle for the awareness!!
So so proud of you Mahle this is so informative and eye opening
I went through the same experience at the same cult and in Cape Town in 2019 as well!! We probably were in different groups. I am glad that you eventually got out and that you are great. I hope that you did not give up on God. Much love
💛💛💛 probably the same people. You're amazing for making it out and still going in your faith.
@@mahle_majola I think moving to JHB also helped me a lot - being far away from that environment.
Shazzz! Glad you made it out. Stay strong in Christ
I am shocked about the level of dedication they have towards recruiting n their teachings.. 😮. Yeyyiii can Christians b this loyal. To the Lord
Oh my goodness! Thank you for your obedience and making people aware.
I'm glad I looked up the church, I recently got invited to a meeting on zoom. It was basically an introduction to the bible study program, some of things that they were saying did not sit well with me.
I must say they are really good(as the enemy is very smart), the word does say in Matthew 24:24-
"For there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, in so much that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect ."
Yoh you are right. Like I was excited but having a relationship with God helps a lot. Because you will eventually learn the truth. Its been three lessons but I researched and hayi immediately I remembered
I left classes when they introduced the concept of the new John. I wa sin for a few months and genuinely believed. I thank God for protecting me and helping me with discernment. I recently met a fellow ex-classmate (we were both recruited by the Cape Town Northern suburbs / Parow branch) who shared your testimony with me and we are both thanking you for sharing your story. God loves you. Thank you for shining light on this. May God bless you and keep you close to Him.
Hi there I was scrolling then I came across this video guys I am currently attending their bible study..I started in January and ..last week I told my mentor that I want to tell my husband about this word of God I have found and my mentor was like no no no don't tell him yet.....Now I will drop this week on Thursday I won't attend...Thanks for Sharing guys.
@@shadi_martin girl run for your life
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Really, these things happen?
There was a young girl I met in town and she was recruiting me for some Bible study which they conducted on zoom. I attended the first one and felt like they were not deep into the things of God, they were Just talking about basic stuff man which I felt like I'm way matured for that so I never attended again. The girl called a few times and gave up when I told her that I'm also attending Bible study classes at my church.
Something was a bit off about her though.
There's a very young girl that tried to recruit me and I know she's still with them, I Just don't know how I can help her get out of it, maybe you guys who have experienced all this might find a way.
I can send her number to someone willing to help her, she looks not older than 16.
I'm sharing this in Ireland. Thank you for your courage to share!
Hi sister I am Nirmala from India.
I was also trapped in this but its just for 4 months and within this time I could discern that they are not the right people .I left. Its just happening in my life this 2023 April I joined this online course from a advertisement that came in my bible app.
But now All Glory to Jesus He has taken me out in just 4 months.
I heard your full story ANSI am so thrilled how God delivered you. Amen God Bless you.
i can't believe it.... omw... watching I was ready to speak up and felt a whole lot "defensive"! but I am glad I watched it to the end. I really found out the church was way before they revealed and thought that because soo much of what they said was backed up by scripture it had to be the absolute truth. I left just before "passover" I was actually "pushed back" because I felt I wasn't measuring up.... I felt like I was not comprehending because had so many questions... luckily after I dropped out they had not pursued me. Still, i constantly had the urge to go back like I'm falling short and missing out on Gods grace. My intention was to fully commit and "make it". After i have watched your video i now believe i have complete clarity.... asking like "where is GOD?" but at least now i have the truth to move on with. I am so grateful.
I just left them recently and OMFG you explained my experience and what they've been teaching to the T. Except for the fact i went against them and told my family about it when it affected my marks at uni. I'm so glad i found these videos and just basically doing some research on this cult (something i should've done before)and being mind blown😢 I thank my mom and God for the spirit of discernment. I want to share with others ESPECIALLY UNI STUDENTS about this cult and why you can't trust just anyone with your personal life. God bless you 🙏
Thank you for sharing this. There's a person who's been trying to recruit me to join these lessons. I met him at the mall and when I told my partner about it, he said it just seems weird. So I didn't go. Last night the person who invited me sent me a flyer because now the lessons are going to be held online. I then googled them and now I'm here......yooh. Enkosi, mntase.
Thank you for this....When i stopped and starter researching i came across Jess as well, but hearing this from someone from Cape Town as well, makes me so happy that i am not alone too....
Hey 💛
You are not alone at all. Take it a day at a time as well. You don't need to have it all figured out to leave. Do more research and make the right choice for you
I have already left months back....i blocked them all from my phone and whatsapp.
The only issue is my mom is still there😟 i tried telling her the truth about them but as you know she wont listen to me. So i just let her be, hoping that in time uzozibonela naye
@@yolisamancazela2925 All in God's timing. 💛💛
Yu are strong guys💕💕💕
Thank you so much for having the courage to share this.
Thank you for sharing this...I was approached by a lady and gentleman at a mall in Bryanston and didn't think any of it as they appeared so kind until they sent me the link to the Zoom meeting with an infographic about the lessons...Almost immediately noticed the course is presented by Hope Church ZA (a branch of Shincheonji Church of Jesus) and the red flags instantly started waving and I googled them. The fact that the people you tried to recruit didn't budge was God at work because He knew He was going to bring you out. I am shooketh...I pray this reaches many more and that God keeps building you up♥
Let me just say, you nailed this spot on! I went through the exact same experience in Cape Town in 2017. My entire life has been centered around Jesus and when this happened, I too started questioning everything, I questioned them and they could not stand it - eventually I got myself kicked out literally during class, because of that. At the time I couldn't understand, cried as if someone had died and afterwards I too felt so lost.
Only after I was kicked out, I found out what the church was and literally confronted my friend who recruited me, with receipts and everything. Lol, guess what? yep? she used "wisdom" on me, even though there was a video with our one friend standing next to "New John" I found on a graduation ceremony on UA-cam. We are not friends today and I'm okay with that.
I've always found stories of people from other countries, but could never find one from Cape Town, just to see if I wasn't delusional...but look at GOD.
I actually smiled and laughed listening to this, because it was so accurate. So happy that you got out...you'll get through it, it's tough...it takes time, but you'll find peace and fall even more in love with Christ.
This is what I needed today. Thank you so much. This is why I made the video as well. I couldn't find close to home and I was looking for someone to relate to. I'm very encouraged by the last paragraph you wrote. It gives me home
@@mahle_majola I'm glad I could offer some sort of encouragement, because I never had it at the time, no one understood, so I knew I had to say something. Knowing I'm not alone gives me even more peace/clarity. All I can say is, thank you for sharing your story❤️🙏
One of my close friends recruited me and we’re no longer friends too. I am hurt and feel betrayed by the fact that he recruited me and used “wisdom” on me. I almost lost my relationship with my family and my wife because of this cult. Sometimes I feel so dumb for allowing myself to be brainwashed
The lady who spoke about the church is Babalwa, but she did not go into detail about everything. It is great seeing your video and you go into more detail.
2 years later and im only seeing this today cause its viral on tiktok and omw the questions that are circling in my mind right now are going to drive me crazy. God is indeed our saviour may your wounds heal and may you get stronger by the day❤❤❤
Amen thank you for your testimony. I was also lured in by a bible study. After 6 months they revealed their truth & I felt soo betrayed. I never logged back in to class. I am trying to turn back to Gods word but as you said I'm taking it a day at a time.
Hi , may you please explain how they revealed their truth ? My friend is going through the same thing and I really want to help her out ❤
I'm so sorry you went through this. You don't deserve to feel like this. It's so unfair that they used the Word of God as a weapon. I'm currently in the same situation, actually. I joined their Equipped bible study course, and the more I learn about them on Twitter, TikTok, and UA-cam, the more horrified I am.
What is the truth.. all of you guys are vague, I have never been to church since I was 9.. for me they are a meer a game where I will play and sleep with their women...What do they do
It was very brave of you to speak about this. I am a Christian and don't like it when people use the name of the Lord in vain but it would have taken me a lot to do what you did, thanks for the video. It will be shared and know that your effort for awareness is not in vain. I also met this other guy around Khayelitsha who asked me questions and I responded. I felt uneasy when he said the devil rules the world and that's how he failed to recruit me
Psalms 24:1 New King James Version
A Psalm of David. The earth is the LORD’s, and all its fullness, The world and those who dwell therein.
Also saw red flags once this was said. People may say whatever they like but you cannot argue against scripture!
Thank you so much my sister for sharing your testimony! I praise God for your freedom!
Thank you so much for posting this, Mahle. I left as well and share the same pain, doubts and days where I'm down. I am so glad you got out. Though much of that time feels like a blur, when you made the comment about telling people you were selling drugs, it sparked a memory. I think we were in the same class initially (I had a little white car if that's a reminder)...I sometimes wonder if anyone else I was with is free now, so it's comforting to hear that you escaped that space.
Wishing you strength and nothing but the best ❤️
I'm so happy you got out. I hope you are good. Love to you 💛💛 . You can have a chat with me when ever.
@@mahle_majola Thank you ❤️❤️
God bless you Mahle. Thank you for sharing your story, for sharing the truth. I believe you & applaud your courage for speaking up and warning others. I attended classes for a few weeks and The Holy Spirit told me to leave. Thank God for gifting us with the spirit of discernment. Jesus loves us. God loves us all the same & Holy Spirit is here for us all. THANK YOU!!! ❤❤❤
Thank you for this! I was approached at Woolworths last year by some lady talking about this bible study done through her church. I went through a challenging time this year and i remembered the lady. I then contacted her thinking id get back to reading the word. I attended the first Zoom class there were four people in the class and then after the class they asked if we would like to continue with the bible study, that night I said I would think about it. The next day I sent a message saying I would join the bible study and asked whats the next steps. The girl that had approached me last year was in that first class, but then for the second class she told me there will be another bible study teacher and a small group. HOWEVER the first official class it was just me and a different lady, I was confused because they said it would be smaller groups taking classes. She would act nice, ask about my life, now in hindsight its giving major red flags because from day 1 she started acting like we are best friends like I have known her forever. Then came the second lesson with her and I found myself correcting certain things she was saying about some scriptures ANOTHER RED FLAG, I am not an expert but there are some things i believe a bible study teacher would know. Something told me to google the church and OH MY WORD. I JUST WANT TO THANK GOD FOR SAVING ME FROM JOINING A CULT AND RUINING MY LIFE. I blocked ALL OF THEM. I pray more and more people see this and are led by God's truth. I wont ever put myself through this or return to this! thank you for your story!!!
Damn went through the same thing just recently, luckily my friend did the research for me and i blocked them yesterday. More than 5 people have called me since and have been declining their calls.
we thank God for the spirit of descernment He gave u ,please continue seeking for the truth mostly through word (bible) and the truth shall set tou free
I did the same thing last year. I went to two Zoom classes and asked what ministry it was associated with. I Googled New Heaven New Earth church and immediately confronted the lady who invited me. She immediately got defensive saying those websites and people were lies and liars. She kept trying to ware me down. She stopped asking me to join. Just last week had a FB message asking me to join a Bible study. I called her out and explained no I don't want to join. She wasn't respond back. Glad you got out.
Thank you for sharing your story , a year later it is still helping people, including myself ❤
Thank you cc for sharing. This is the same as the church I was going to for a longest time . God is the Apostle, who do everything that God does . Everything is asked from him. Jesus is never mentioned. When singing the name Jesus is removed and replaced by 'him' Apostle. You are also taught for 3 months, before being accepted as the member. If you are not in that church you are not going to heaven so they say . I was also a senior officer there . I regret one thing , some of my family members are still there . But I pray everyday for God to open their eyes. I thank Jesus for opening mine and my daughters.
God bless you for this ❤️, thank you for being so brave and sharing your story you are helping plenty of people with this❤️!
Thank you for sharing sis i so relate i was once a member luckily for for i didn’t go deep i left early my spirit was just not happy
Its hard to explain this to someone who has never encountered these people. I went for three to four months but my suspicions wouldn't let me continue at the end. They could not respond to some of the questions that I asked (and towards the end I could not follow their logic). At first, I was impressed but by the time they got to Mount Zion and Pastor John/the promised one, I knew they were full of poop.
I'm so happy you got out at that stage. 💛💛💛. They are full of lies and have damaged so many people
Dude, exactly me I left after the Mount Zion lesson. I spent almost two months there ,
So happy you left. Best decision you made
SAME!
@@mahle_majola are police or the government aware of these people? It’s so scary, they need to be stopped.
I’m CURRENTLY going through this!
A friend invited me to a Bible study class last year early Dec. She’s a very lovely person so I obliged, it would be a zoom class nje. Next thing, they inviting us for this study course that would be 8 months long, they start asking you to do a beginner’s class immediately. I reluctantly oblige, to me it had all the trappings of a cult but I was curious. I was determined to not be pressured to show up to everything, I was determined to argue and scrutinise everything. Surprisingly, i still make it to the actual class even after missing the first batch of lessons and telling them repeatedly that my life won’t allow this being on zoom week twice a week.
Any way, I’ve seen it all starting, I googled them as soon as I could see the logos of their church on their zoom slides. Some “teacher” started telling people to stop listening to or reading other Bible sources so they aren’t confused and that whole “chosen person” narrative is being introduced which I’ve been querying them without any answers 😏
Thank you for raising awareness and confirming to me that I’ve been right about this. I was starting to feel bad for how cynical I’m being and how stupid I think everyone in those calls is. I was feeling bad for the girl leading our class coz she’s really nice and diligent and kind to me, but I’ve been cynical and hell bent on being difficult from day one.
I applaud you ❤💪💌
I stayed despite googling my former cult in the beginning as well . I also fell for the love bombing. They really show you kindness and support at first. I hope you make it out❤.
Here because two christian girls approached me, who i thought was genuine only to offer me a FREE bible study course. Thank god i done my research before signing up as i found out this is a cult
I just got out of this after 3 months. They told me it was a 8 to 9 month Bible Study at a 2 time a week pace and it soon got upped to 3 times a week. The scheduling through me off a bit, but once we started discussing Revelation and their interpretations of it I knew something was off. Glad I left and saw what was wrong. Glad you did too
@@khanyisa7373that's exactly what it is.
Eish babe, these people are still at it! 😂 I accidentally joined eziway, but I noticed quickly (within weeks!) ukhuti if I am to believe in their interpretation of the parables, then nakanjani I must believe in the one who overcomes 🤔 so I started to question and ke I'm a researcher so I started to research and found out that the whole thing is a cult 😂😂😂
i was almost kicked out for researching lol😂 was devasted when i told my mentor that i found SCJ online and the lessons are true. They threatened to kick me out😂😂😂 kante i should have gone deeper
Yoh, thank God for your video. I'm getting answers to so many questions that have been daunting me
Thank you Mahle
Today it was my second session with these zoom meetings online I thank God for watching and listening to it
Unknowingly is the perfect word to describe it. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much for sharing your story... listening to you from Uganda.
I appreciate the support 💛💛. More people need to be aware of this.
"Don't tell your family"🚩🚩🚩
Yell your family
I have watched your video today but it has been in my mind to leave Shincheonji, i have made up my mind now. Thanks so much because i have been not feeling at ease
Thank you for sharing your story... I just had an epiphany at the end of your story which is that the realization you got at this Shincheonji place is the same realization I got with religion in general.
Thank you for this I recently had the very same experience. I went to the classes partook in the graduation the whole time feeling uneasy and forcing myself because I didn’t want to be the one who didn’t believe. But I felt God and the deeper I got in Shincheonji the more I saw it wasn’t God. They couldn’t answer a lot of questions and there was a lot of deception and manipulation by the members. When I realized they had members posing as new students that was my last straw. When ever I listened to Lee Man He speak and his description of going to heaven it always made my spirit feel uneasy
The first time you were able and you you hbuhvuvu
They act like they're are new and it's funny how you can notice 🤣 like really,they never met but they agree way too much with each other. They don't even care if you are not feeling well,they'll still get you to attend. Thank God for the discernment that God granted
@madeperfect8772 the "donkey" that carried Jesus
I haven’t gone half way into the video but all I can say is that I’ve definitely had a similar experience in my walk with Christ, I’ve had organizations use my hunger for God to indoctrinate me into a spiritual life that I had no idea even existed and became removed from God.
You brought me here
Reading the comments, I'm just glad I'm not allow in this 🥺🙏
LMAOOOOOO this place is hilarious tbh lol! 🤣🤣 They target students in Durban, they're based in the Musgrave area, well when I last knew them that's where they were based.... I participated out of curiosity for a few months but I was never really into it, I just wanted to reconnect with God.... Lol the new John part piqued my curiosity the most lol. I don't think they're bad ppl, they just don't seem to be aware that this is a cult situation coz everyone there seems normal enough. I hope ppl got out though coz some were actually deep in it.
The cherry on top is that they mention the cult accusations themselves and ask that the ppl in the church/Bible studies don't pay the haters any mind lol. I thought it was weird but harmless, I haven't finished this video but so glad you are sharing.
Thanks for sharing this .. more people need to be aware of this “church”. I used to attend their “bible studies” in DUT Durban 2019 because I thought they were true believers . They started in the old testament and it seemed like things were going well till they started saying stuff that contradicted the bible. Of course I had a lot of questions that they couldn’t answer; I was told to wait till things are revealed later or some things are metaphorical. I noticed that their interpretation of the Bible is falsehood. I was not at peace and confused , I told my “leader” my concerns with what they were teaching and of course he never gave direct answers which is when I decided to stop attending . He told me they only have the truth of God's word, I’m rejecting God’s grace 😂 & I need to have new wine skin etc Ended up blocking him because he was bombarding me with messages to make me guilty and It didn’t work . I thank God. Fast word 2023 that I learn it’s a cult. Discernment is really needed and awareness about these cults infiltrating with false doctrines.
One guy said that to me also😢😂 mind you I was very much Agnostic at that time. He shouted me and said I’m rejecting God when I decided to quit because of my studies
All I can is during the Lockdown, God revealed a lot of things to us about the Church as a whole. I was in a different church but my eyes were opened during the Lockdown. I believe it's time these so called men of God get exposed and we get back to God and not idolize them so much. Thank God you left and may God continue to guide and protect you
I am so proud of you!♥️🌻
Thanks for sharing your message,glad you found your way out! These guys are many all over the world.... May the lord have mercy on them an all people who get involved.... Let's pray that the word leads them to the truth.
Thank you very much.
All I can say is xola sisi, and thank God you out.
Thank you for this information because the are alot of people who are still falling for this.
The whole "you're the chosen one" I had a problem with that because I'm a firm believer that if God created all of us why would He choose some and leave others, if that's the case then I have a problem with the God that is being preached about. It's things like these that got them wanting to cast the evil spirit out of me lol
I feel like a lot of churches are cults honestly. I remember visiting one of these big churches (I was recruited in a similar fashion) and I remember them making me do a prayer to give my life to Christ then I was told to go into the back where they were going to explain to us what just happen and make us sign some documents to officially join the church. I was spiritually awake and asked them questions which they obviously couldn't answer. Haai mina I didn't go back to those classes because firstly I was tricked into the first lesson. I've been to so many churches where I felt like nooooo mun this is not right to a point where it was thought I had evil spirits. Honestly I question everything, even the very scripture they use to support their narrative. I just stopped going to church ngl, I practice my faith in my bedroom and I know there's no fellowship && but I swear a lot churches are running cults and I want no part in that.
And full of selfish hypocrites that only care about thier own glory and worldly success.
It sad what happening to the world. Most big churches are like a cult. It hard to find a church that is guided by the Holy Spirit.
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A "church" that has "founder" who is a man like you and me, run from that "church." It's a cult, they come in different shapes and forms. There is only one founder of THE Church, and his name is Jesus Christ. We can fellowship together as Christians, have a leader/pastor and elders, etc. The problem starts once there's one man at the top who is the founder and GO.
There were several times in the gospels when the disciples got things very badly wrong.
The Bible carries on after the Ascension of Jesus because the early church got things very badly wrong
The perfect church does not exist on Earth. If you can prove me wrong and find this church DO NOT JOIN IT!!! If you do you will spoil it.
Thanks for sharing. I was recruited in the US in Alexandria VA....They recruiting heavy in the DC area even on dating apps
I heard they are on social media recruiting that’s why I did a video on it
He wena!! What a wow. Hay Mahle. I am so shooketh about all this.
It's hectic love but very grateful to have gotten out and please share as they are still active. 💛
Friend I’m so glad you found your way out ♥️
Yeyyyi to go is truly to see. This story is really really hectic, I hope you're taking care
I was unsuspecting only after 6 months I realised something was terribly wrong after realizing a lie and lie after lie... then started rethinking the doctrines that I had been suppressing in order to maintain friendships. one day (last. week) I woke up and told myself enough of that rubbish and stopped going. they started gaslighting me. It's a cult with a capital C. I am in Cape Town and feel sorry for the young people I left in that cult😢
Do you mind telling me where in Cape Town they are?
@@Nunyabusiness11222 they're in tygervalley for the elementary teachings and they move you to CBD before you join the real hidden church
It happened to me as student in Korea.. I was so blessed to leave before the real bible course has started but still it gave me so many doubts about what is real... they got my friend too and he was depressed so much after because he was much deeper into their teachings... really SCJ are everywhere and we need to be so careful..
I am so happy now more and more people are talking about them! Thank you so much for sharing!
May i know where is your bible college to study..
Thank God for the ability to get out and share.I thank GOD for my unapproachable face haven't met such hate for life and the word kodwa u Thixo mkhulu all the time
Thanks to God for this video I am done with that bloody nonsense. After 6 months of being controlled and feeling miserable. It feels good to be free!
So proud of your courage mntase. 🙂
Still recovering from the horrific experience. What pisses me off still is the fact that I saw the first warning sign which was as learners we should not to tell anyone about the bible study because we must protect the word. How the hell can one be restricted from sharing Gods amazing word? Hai man!
But I continued with the bible study because I wanted to know God better.
Even though it took me a long time to get out , I am glad I am done with Shincheonji and I do believe things will get better.
Thanks so much Mahle.
@@yolandafani6579 Hi I want to know how do you find out about this, I think currently Im stuck in this Cult thingy😢
You talk softly hle😅 I’ve even fell asleep while listening to you(at night)♥️
This is a year later I'm here scrolling on UA-cam and came across of your video ,Thank you so much for the awareness.
You just got yourself a new Suby..I'm so shocked ukuba these things are really happening 🙊
Hai i thank God for revealing this, i have just started after being recruited on social media, stragest thing is everytime i have to be on this zoom meeting there would always be some network issues and stuff angizwa nix... so yeah thank you for this and God bless you for exposing these strategies and works...
I literally left about 2 days ago, after finding out where we actually getting this lessons from. And im so prepared to make everyone aware of these people, using God and how hurt He would feel if we dont attend to manipulate people💔
Can please tell me the place you found where the lessons are coming from? I would like to research more on this
Please please shout it loud! I'm so worried about my wonderful daughter who's trapped there for some 3 years now!
Hi can you please explain where they get those lessons from I'm trying to help my friend 😢❤
To God be the Glory cc and you were there to come back usixhobise and May God protect you and your family
God is good he will never leave us nor forsake us uyasithanda uthixo
so proud to hear you...
form India.
😮 They told me the name of the church in English but I could see ukuthi kunento e off lana 🤔.
They want to occupy all our time. We meet 3 times a week😮.
They make us feel like we don't know the word of God.
We can't have access to the recordings because of copyright issues. 😂
Thank you Mahle this really opened my eyes 👀
The power of God is revealed through this video. He indeed saved you.
😳😳😳😳 Yazi I met abantu abanjalo and they're nice and beautfiul ladies. Qha umnqwazi wam wawungaqini tuu ngabo and I decided to BLOCK THEM . .
Listening to your story I am amazed at all these new cults & how they work. I am Namibian & I don't even understand your venacular language but I watched everything. There is a friend who I believe got involved in this cult during Covid time. She literally disappeared from church & any church gathering & would distance herself from most of the people she knows. The more I listened to your Testimony the more convinced I am that this is where she disappeared to. I am still praying for her & trusting that God opens her eyes.
This one is not new formed in 1980
where can i get hold of you, im losing my daughter, i need help please.
Thank you so much for saving lives by sharing this and possibly placing yourself in grave danger! God bless you for your courage sis🙏🏾.