please do Another reviews of Windows 11 after 1.5 year because right now windows 11 is a piece of garbage with any many bugs in the system and missing feature or removed feature.
@@applecastaway4256 It's pretty much true excluding theme patchers, 7tsp etc. (but it's still a third party process that is tedious and can brick your OS if you don't do everything right, I'm talking about Windows customization of course. Linux customization is REALLY BETTER)
I'm convinced it's the obsession with backwards compatibility. Believe it or not, Windows 11 *still* supports floppy disks without any additional drivers. Heck, you still, to this day, can not name a file "CON", "PRN", "AUX", "NUL", etc because of the antiquated way that MS-DOS used to handle hardware. Not to mention the fact that the Windows Vista Basic theme still exists within Windows, despite the fact that you can't actually use it. Even Microsoft Excel was purposefully written to believe that February 29, 1900 is a real date that actually exists in order to replicate a Lotus 1-2-3 bug. You can run Windows 3.0's Program Manager in 32-Bit Windows 10 with the addition of NTVDM. Although this one seems to be ending with Windows 11, since they seem to have dropped the 32-bit version. I could go on, but one thing is clear: Microsoft seems to be prioritizing allowing extremely old programs and hardware to function properly over making their system cohesive and stable - and I feel that's likely a major contributor to Windows 11's overall bloat.
@@pantallahueso Which is why it's ironic that I originally started using Linux because old games I had wouldn't run any longer on Windows 10, but ran perfectly in WINE and Proton.
The one really nice thing that Windows does really well is backward compatibility. You can run a binary that was compiled for Windows 2000 perfectly fine on Windows 11. And that really matters in the Windows ecosystem, since a lot of people run closed source apps that don’t get updates anymore.
"You can run a binary that was compiled for Windows 2000 perfectly fine on Windows 11" No you can't. Yeah, maybe some basic stuff, but anything even slightly complicated and it doesn't work at all. Wine can run old Windows apps better than Windows can.
@@motoryzen You're right. NFS II SE already needed a shady patch on Windows XP to make it run, I can't even imagine if I could play it ever again on 10 or 11.
I've been dual-booting Windows and Linux since 2013 but I'm on Windows the vast majority of the time. Windows is just far better for games and using certain exclusive applications such as Photoshop, but the far bigger problem for me is that for some reason my Linux installs keep breaking themselves mysteriously after a while. On both Mint and Pop!_OS, I've had the WiFi/LAN components remove themselves from the system and I have no idea how and why that happened. Ubuntu and Pop!_OS each once made themselves unbootable, making a really long boot screen and ending up with an empty desktop. Manjaro once killed its package manager leaving me with a system unable to update whatsoever. As usually, all these problems had a thousand solutions on the internet and none of them worked, leaving me no choice but to reinstall Linux. That stuff just doesn't happen on Windows. It's a far more reliable system in my experience. And even if something goes wrong, the solutions on the internet commonly work and continue working for years because Windows doesn't change its freaking dependencies all the time.
What MS does very well is laying eggs early - they plant their products into schools, kids learn Windows and when they start working they even don't realize Matrix has got them. Except they get into IT where Neo hands them Linux pill and Windows becomes for them just a typewriter or communicator in VM.
This is almost 1:1 to my experience. I was I introduced to windows as a daily driver by school and now I’m taking a cybersecurity class where we exclusively use Kali VMs (that we we are encouraged to experiment with) and now I’m seriously considering using Linux as my OS of choice on everything besides my (Nvidia) gaming PC.
I would say that these days, Google and Apple are doing an even better job of this. With the MacBook school programs and Chromebooks’ cheap price and easy administration, a lot of students end up with these devices in their hands.
@@sigmawolf228 Best for what? Try running database (except MSSQL )or Hadoop or like on it. And then try to run orchestration and management scripts for Linux infrastructure from Windows. Windows is nice for what it is - run Windows-only software requiring native (not emulated) environment, that's it. Even for Web browsing there are many great alternatives.
It's amazing how blatantly anti-user the post-Nadella Windows versions have been that they actually make me miss the old Ballmer-led Windows XP and Windows 7. Not that I would ever go back to them, but in hindsight I can see how much more respecting of the user those two were over the ad-platform-and-data-collection-spyware-disguised-as-operating-system that Windows has become since 8.
Good point. In face, they seem to be taking away features that were actually useful in Win 10 (or burying them deeper in the UI). I remember back in the Gates-Ballmer days when MS would hire actual users to work with them in refining the user interface to make it easier to use. In the Win 11 changes, it feels like changes are being made just to make changes (or maybe just people trying to justify their jobs).
I feel the same way. Windows 7 is not well supported any more. 10 is a privacy nightmare. 11 is just crap, putting ads that trick you into installing apps is disgusting! I use 10 but with ShutUp10 to remove the spyware Microsoft has built into it.
@@balesjo They DID remove features in Windows 11, you can no longer move the taskbar like you could in 10. Also going from 7 to 10 removes Windows Media Center and the Win 7 apps.
Microsoft knows that most users wont use things like device manager so they wont use resources on eye candy for those programs. Side complain: Microsoft teams is horrible!!!
ya, Teams is horrible. I'd love them to polish up & beef up WSA myself. >.> getting better preformance & officially supported Google PlayStore would be great.. (*cough*... totally have it put on my SP8 atm)
This video is clearly overly subjective rather than an objective approach. "I dislike X" literally is the same with "X is objectively bad" in this presentation.
Nested Menus of old Windows operating systems (7 and earlier) are far superior to Windows 11 Start Menu. A simple list of pinned apps and quick access folders is far superior to any search. Start Menu Search should only search for installed programs and Control Panel/Settings App settings. If I need web results, I'll open up a browser. If I need file results, I'll open up Explorer and use the Search function there.
I'm of the opposite opinion- I use the search function of both Linux and Windows more than I actually click the icons. Does this mean I could probably just use terminal to do the same thing? Most likely. But I also like search results if I want them.
I use ShutUp10 to disable web search in Start Menu. but since my Win 10 Start Menu doesn't work right because of a bug in Windows 10 I replaced it with Classic Shell
@@JacobP81 I also use only Classic Shell on Windows 10. On Windows 11 I use StartAllBack, but it's missing some features. Still it's way better than what Windows provides you with by default.
When i first tried out linux (KDE Neon) at the recommendation of a friend, the first thing that stood out (besides the confusion of only having a taskbar on my second monitor and trying to fix that, along with the single click app opening) was how coherent and consistent the settings menu and store were. No more random control panel opening when i want to mess with microphone settings, nothing like that. I still use Windows 10 for compatibility reasons, but god damn do i miss KDEs aesthetic
I do think it's a bit weird that Linux out of the box doesn't put a taskbar/panel on every monitor and you have to force it. (At least the distros I've used)
I wonder if you could do an 'is x user friendly' on windows/mac os. I think it would be interesting to see how a new user may look at windows and how user friendly it is. Imo it gained popularity due to it being the only option (aside from macOS) in the 90s, and from there people didn't want to switch
@@TheLinuxEXP what do you mean by "it's planned"? I kinda like your channel and your reviews but I'm just learning about computers... but what does your comment mean? Thanks in advance
I am a hobbyist developer and a gamer. I exclusively use Linux. I used to have Windows as well on this machine, but after a bit of just never booting into it (and at the time it was BSoDing on boot for some reason), I decided to just get rid of the partitions.
Same for me, I had a second drive with windows and 2 days ago I deleted it to use as a storage space for my games as I didn't boot into it for 3 months.
I still use Windows because, games and proprietary hardware. Not all Steam games run on proton flawlessly, same with Lutris but it’s making a good case for itself - but the process of reinstalling the same client for different games (Origin, Uplay, GoG) and not finding and sharing the existing game profiles is kind of jarring having to start over. Vermintide 2 in Linux plays great but because of EAC you can’t make progress, so that’s one incentive less. I’ve wanted to get an AIO printer but the lack of Linux compatibility lists, or outdated ones, make it hard to decide, and if even if it’s compatible I don’t know if the managing software exists. I rarely print but it’s good to have in cases, not to mention I want to scan in photos of and from my late dad and comics I’ve accumulated. Then there’s my Oculus Quest 1, Elgato HD60 Pro and my 3DS capture card with no support for Linux. Sigh.
@@Ohem1 When it comes to games outside of Steam, I just double click them to run through Wine, and they just work. I'm not talking mere indie titles either. GTAs through Rockstar Games launcher (including GTA 4 which runs impressively well for how potato my PC is). Control from GoG (I don't use the client, just downloaded the files through the website). Windows only emulators, such as Cemu or Project64 (latter for debugging purposes). Such is the life on bleeding edge with the latest version of Wine and DXVK. It really does suck when your hardware doesn't work though. I have this HyperX keyboard that was meant to be software controlled. Well, it would on Windows, at least. I tried OpenRGB on Linux, but it did not do the job. So I decided to use a Windows VM and spy on the packets it's sending with Wireshark. It only took forever, and eventually I had a little C# thing that could control the keyboard's RGB. So yeah, that was great fun. Still, I would imagine a printer would just work? A Google also tells me people got the Oculus Quest specifically to avoid using Windows, so...
@@chlorobyte_projects Great job in reverse engineering a device driver! Even if it's "only" the backlight of a keyboard, it's a great skill I wish I had.
@@andreasklindt7144 Ehh, it's more like, I caught the packets as they were sent from Windows then sent the exact same ones on Linux, I have no idea what it means besides the actual RGB data lol
why is this review so light. Why didn'T you ACTUALLY review the operating system by functionality and not only by looks? You say it looks shiny but is in the way for the enduser. I would have liked an actual review by switching to it for a month and doing things on it you would like to do like: - streaming - audio engineering - recording, cutting (i mean you are a youtuber right?) - Doing work related office stuff - gaming/free time activities (watching movies, enjoying audio, reading etc.) I am a UA-camr myself, and i have found that linux just doesn't really work out of the box for my common tasks and my hardware needs. I like to tinker with hardware and softwware, but mroe with hardware than with software to be honest. What i like abt windows is, that there ARE still the old menus that actually do work. And that don't get replaced by an OS overhaul that scraps the entire desktop user experience, but just get added upon. This is what is necessary not what is a problem. Because these menus are known to work and any change to them that isn't adding to them but redesigning them, is likely to break things that were there before. I agree with you about the behaviour of microsoft being terrible and anticomptetitive, but they onyl get away with it, because the opposition just lacks stuff that windows doesn't. For me its a pain to install software on Linux. You Have the software store that you brag about, but it just still doesnÄTcome with the software i need. And oftentimes to install software i need i would have to use the command line and then i would do like 3-4 preliminary steps before i even am able to run the installer of some sort, if there even existed an intaller. On Windows at least for certain there is an installer usually, and it usually just works out of the box. People don'T design isntallers for linux which is a huge issue OF LINUX. If Linux can'tconvince people to make their software work on theior operating system, then this has reasons, which is probably things like the always evolving desktop experience that is redesigning crucial menus that people need to operate their system (see gnome 3 for example...) Anyways, i didnÄt really want to write an essey, i just ment, that it would be great to actually get a UA-camr-Experience because i would like to know how i could tackle all my problems with audio engineering, cutting and hardware tinkering on Linux. Thanks in Advance Cheers!
They even didn't care to redesign the clean install GUI. How'd you expect them to clean up the pre-Metro GUI stuff? Furthermore, they're still struggling about remaking Settings panel. So no, I have no significant expectations for them.
The last time I installed VLC from the Microsoft store it was the Mobile / Touchscreen interface and not VLC proper. Although I must admit that's been several years. I've learned my lesson to never use it since then 👍
It is absolutely unacceptable that Windows, something that is paid is so unpolished and messy. Most Linux distros look nicer and more consistent despite being free.
People still use windows over linux even win 11 so that should tell you something about which os i better and easier to use. Also have you ever met a person that actually bough a win licence apart from 5€ gray market keys?
You summed it up pretty well: Windows is a Frankenstein piece of crap made out of pieces from DOS, win 9x era, windows Xp, Windows Vista... and they never bothered modernizing/cleaning up anything! For a Mutlti THOUSANDS OF BILLLION worth company, this is absolutely scandalous. This laziness and lack of perfectionnism makes me faint everytime. What are they doing with their time (decades) and employee(thousands) seriously ??? How can this OS still be so... abandoned ?
I do think you're trolling, but Windows has always had the concept of backward support, hence floppy drives still work, once you understand that, then you realise the choices they make.
They unified the development of the core components (e.g. Kernel) across desktop, xbox and mobile (before failing spectacularly in the mobile domain). The ancient bits are the reason why most 20 years old win32 binaries still work. Loki Games Linux game ports don't have the same luxury. Why does it matter? Because despite the many defects it makes it a viable platform to develop commercial software for.
@@bufordmaddogtannen Retro compatibility is always used as an excuse for this mess... It's just because they work dirty since the beginning, it's in their DNA. Instead of redesigning thing lean and clean, they pile up new trash on top of the old trash and that's it. You have on one side GNU/Linux that can weigh only 500MB and on the other side Windows that weigh 30GB to do in the end... the same thing. And retrocompabilty is cool but if it makes users feel like dealing with rotten meat all day long, no thanks. Make a "Windows no budget to move on edition" with all the old crap included, then release a clean new OS fresh, lean and clean with win32 compat but nothing older.
@@YiChi457 Sadly people who work in non-IT fields for a living need a platform where commercial software exists and runs for more than a couple of OS releases. Apple was on the right path with the deprecation of 32 bits hardware first and the drop of 32 bits software support later, too bad they bloated the OS at each release and cannot be bothered to release security patches with a consistent and predictable schedule. Your comment perfectly applies to X11 for the same reasons. It took 10 years to get a fallback mechanism to recover from setting the wrong display resolution on Linux (I was there, I remember the resulting black screens). If you think Microsoft is slow at changing things, you should look at when the various projects started on Linux land and where they currently are.
Coat of paint is all MS knows at this point. Windows 11 is a coat of paint on windows 10, which is a coat of paint on Windows 7, which is a coat of paint on Windows Vista, which is a coat of paint on Windows XP, which is a coat of paint on Windows 2000...
@@AlbyTastic I see this so often, people bitch about Windows, but usually end with Windows 11 is fine, and I concur and now with WSL, I get all the software and hardware support using Windows and all of the developer tools on Linux, matched made in heaven currently.
@@greggoog7559 Which is a coat of paint on Windows 98, ... Windows 95, ... Windows 3.1, .... all the way back to MS-DOS - the worst OS ever created (no disrespect to the original developer from whom Billy boy purchased it). When MS-DOS was pimping monochrome, mono-threading terminals, I was using a 32-bit Windowed OS with multi-threading!
pretty much this. all of what we see today on windows 11 was built on top of windows 2000, or overall the NT kernel as a whole. not surprised with what they did with win11, its NT version is still version 10.
I mean, to be fair.. i've yet to meet anyone who uses the microsoft store willingly. another thing that one must consider is that the majority of users never see beyond the desktop experience. the most complicated process alot of people go through on their pc is connecting to their router and downloading their preferred browser.
Tbh the experience out of the box it's just good enough to keep it going if you don't mind outdated GPU drivers, you are just ok with edge and you're not using some weird wifi or Ethernet card from a random country, personally as a tech savvy user the problem it's customizing your windows and debloating everything, which regulars users just won't mind
I also use the store willingly but that was because it reminds me of linux. Before i started using Linux i didn't touch the store. Also UWP apps had some potential, but i think they're dying now unfortunately
I use the store (and winget) too. I really like apps being able to cleanly uninstall, and with winget you can export a list of packages you have installed on one PC to set up another really easily.
After decades of using Windows including Windows 11 since the first dev preview, I have now moved to Linux and the main reason was, funnily enough, the UI experience. I cannot believe that a company of their size and wallet ended up with a product that makes no sense UI wise (to a user that has been with their products since version 3.1). If I had to pick one thing that pushed me over the edge was the File explorer having a black background with smaller fonts and not matching any of the theme choices I made. And of course there are tons of other idiotic things like the task bar's next to 0 customisation options etc. Gnome/KDE with a few extensions look and feel 10 years ahead of anything MS has delivered so far on the desktop end. The only thing that is missing from Linux is better support for Wayland (NVidia wake up) and desktop wise I will be completely satisfied.
I favor Windows 7 running Classic Shell and with Aero disabled. UI design and everything else develops with the growing stupidity of humankind. I just updated my Waterfox browser and it has some telemetry active and claims the UI respects the user's screenspace but instead it actually wastes more now and I have to learn interface coding again to try and correct that shit once again. I cannot keep up with countering this madness. I could rant for hours about the absolutely nonsensical and self-defeating fads everywhere.
They just moved icon task bar to the center, modified the app search/launcher and made the system even heavier than Win10. This is 'innovation' that nobody in the Linux world cares much. Linux users could have that interface for years with KDE and working fine on years old hardware.
I've been Windows user for my whole life but I must say that windows 11 is the most polished pile of crap ever it's even worse than Windows Vista and I'm not kidding. It's forcing basically monopoly for MS services on Windows and making people jump through the obstacles that wasn't there ever before and W11 start menu is nowhere near W10 menu. You can't organize W11 start menu into groups or folders so you have only favorite apps and crappy search that mostly doesn't work. The telemetry and data collection is worse than in W10 and the HW requirements are abysmal but I see that as positive because at least people with those PC won't be forced to upgrade from decent windows 10 to the crap pile W11. Linux has negatives because as Linus from LTT said it's using terminal as a excuse not to work on UI or UX and the app support is still not great.
Expect some demanding letters / knocks at the door in a few months. They built a portfolio around you during that session and sold it to advertisers. When you disappear, those advertisers will be demanding the data/sales they promised from you, thus M$ have lost projected earnings and you'll be on the hook for it. Expect clippy to be camped outside your house, night after night, tapping on your window "You seem to be trying to sleep, would you like some help with that."
@@Mike-qs3qq windows don't require an account if you use Rufus to disable the Microsoft account. Which like android will take away from the intended experience
13:04 - Let's talk about this when DAWs (Digital Audio Workstations, for the ones who don't know the acronym) would run without crackling on any Linux distro and doesn't need me to hack Pipewire on them or to figure out how to run Jack. Windows is still superior in handling any audio production software without struggling and Linux also doesn't have magic tools like the Dolby Atmos app that makes my movie watching and music listening experience so much better. Is it snake oil? Maybe, but I already have a Dolby certified sound card that can take advantage of it. Linux basically just sounds bad and it also confuses sound sources all the time. If I restart my PC, I'm screwed, I have to start from the beginning. In 2021 I find it a joke that nobody developed any solution for audiophiles and musicians. This is mainly why I can't 100% switch to Linux. Well, that and the fact that for my photography needs I can't leave Lightroom Classic behind. Darktable is sluggish and doesn't support hardware acceleration to see changes in real time. Not even on Windows. Also, the UI is confusing, you have to set it up on your own, while Lightroom is logical and it's at your service instantly, even if you move to a new PC. Syncing the photo catalog file with OneDrive or MEGA is a breeze of fresh air, it doesn't trash your folders with separate raw edit config files for each picture separately. I know that this is more of a software specific issue, but I would still keep it in the same category since it seems that art on Linux usually is stuck at a very basic level.
music producer here I just setup realtime and autostart jack and everything works. wine made all of my past music production software work flawlessly and never get audio input issues. I never used lightroom though, that seems really frustrating. just sharing my perspective yours is just as valid, but its not all bad experiences
I don't want to use Jack or configuring things. I want to fire up my DAW and start creating, as easily as it is on Windows or Mac. Jack should be a thing of the past and be forgotten. BitWig works fine currently, but I still vote for ditching Pulse in favour of Pipewire, which would solve this issue once and for all for every distro. Also, no, Wine should be out of the equation, since neither Ableton or Presonus work with it. Again, 'install and forget' is my philosophy, not 'struggle until you see 10% results'. Seamless experience or nothing.
@@distant6606 😂. What planet do you think you're on? Come back to Earth. Linux Mint Cinnamon has BEEN and STILL is laughing at the sheer inaccuracies of your comment.
@keithsze001 When I mention Ubuntu or Linux at work (100% Windows forever), coworkers' eyes glaze over like I was speaking in gibberish or some other language. lol People are sheep. I've used C64-OS, AmigaOS, MS-DOS, BeOS, SunOS, IBM-OS, Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android OS, various flavours of Linux, probably a couple others that I forgot. No wonder the Winfanbois don't know what they're talking about - can't make comparisons if you've never tried ANYTHING else!
Thanks for the candid & fresh insights. Seems the perfect operating system has yet to exist. Running two or three versions of Windows. Each version has 70 GB partitions. Nope also multi-booting all these, along with just 3 versions of Linux. The Linux partitions are about 25 GB. My 2015 Dell XPS-15 notebook is running a one terabyte SSD, and 4 TB HDD, all on the motherboard of the notebook computer. Have been multivitamins ok , Windows & Linux from about 2012. Can be troublesome. But ok. All the operating systems share the data and archive files, on the drives, internal and USB plugins. All these shared drives are in Microsoft's NTFS-compressed partitions, accessible by all operating systems. Not really into operating systems, not computers. My focus is on academic matters, in cognitive sciences, at the biological levels. Linux does not have the applications yet that are common in Windows and Android. Servant Salamander (file manager, Windows only) had no competitors. GUI data manipulation on Windows is so easy, compared to other operating systems. GUI macros, data backup is also very easy, because of the many application choices available in Windows. When Linux strips being confined to just 2% of the end users, the application writers might one day migrate to both Android & Linux.
I was a avid Windows fanboy user from the beginning and occasionally run up a free magazine Linux CD to have a laugh at how bad it was compared to my perfect Windows. But gradually over time I began to realize that some Linux operating systems were actually getting as good as my Windows. Then it happened Windows-8 the end of my perfect Windows and the start to find any Linux replacements. So basically today I use various Linux operating systems and so far they are still vastly superior than MS-Windows. "Sorry Billy Gates". The End :-)
I started using Linux when i found out about how much data windows collects and doesn't give a damn about your privacy But the Linux community was so understanding and good that i never went back to that shitty window
Linux distros are no where near as good as Windows. Needing to use a terminal to install stuff or do basically anything is more time consuming than a simple exe installer and lots of programs simply don't work or are really buggy. Windows and macOS will always be on top due to their ease of use for the average person.
Ridiculous. Linux Mint is as easy if not easier to use than Windows. I've been running it for several weeks and only needed to open a terminal once for a specific app I installed. Everything is handled in the UI. Same for Ubuntu, PopOS, Fedora.
I agree with the anti-user user account creation system. However, it is clear that opening cmd and typing “Winget install chrome (or vlc, 7zip, etc)” is 100x easier for normal person that going online and finding installers and manually install. People are not dumb. We have memorization capabilities. You just tell them to memorize the command “winget install”. That’s it. It’s WAY easier to remember that than trying to remember how to download and use setup files!
That's what I hated about Linux. If I had a problem, all the fixes required me to use the terminal. I just can't remember the commands and at this point, I don't even want to anymore.
@@xeonome1 You are changing the subject. Typing “Winget install Chrome” is literally 3 words in Command Prompt. Typing 3 words and have the app automatically installed and available in your start menu is far, far, easier than: 1) open a web browser; 2) go to bing or Google; 3) search for chrome; 4) Find the right search results, to go to the official site, avoiding ads or 3rd party sites. 5) Finding the “download page” from the official Chrome website; 6) clicking the download button and agreeing to terms; 7) downloading the exe file. 8) opening up file explorer; 9) going to your downloads folder; 10) finding and running setup.exe; 11) accepting UAC; 12) Clicking “Next”, “Next”, “Next”, etc on the setup screen; 13) Agreeing to license agreement; 14) making sure unnecessary sponsored application are not being selected for installation; 15) waiting for progress bar to fill up; 16) Clicking finish to exit setup. Now, you tell me: which is easier for a casual user?
@@xeonome1 At its core, there are only a couple dozen commands to remember, and they are extraordinarily simple. Cd, ls, cat, echo... these commands are as simple as they get, and any more complex behavior is just made up of simpler commands. If you understand the core commands and what they do, which, frankly, are usually self explanatory (cd to change directory, ls to list, etc), you can go a really long way. If you use complex software like, say, dpkg or apt, these are also self explanatory. Install installs software, remove removes software, purge purges software... it really is user friendly, it just may not appear user friendly because there's no shiny buttons to clicky click on.
There are a couple of problems with winget. 1. Windows has spent decades teaching the average user to use the GUI. The terminal is for nerds. 2. Forcing the user to remember commands is not good for User Experience. "Winget install" is easy to remember, but the average user almost never needs it. Finding files in your browser and double-clicking icons are things the average user does all the time. For the average user, "winget install" feels more complicated. The better solution is to use the software "store". Under the hood, the store should just run Winget, so it combines the simplicity of Winget with a more intuitive interface for the average user.
…In what magic wonderland do you guys live where you can teach a computer illiterate person even a single command? Jeez. Just put Fedora Silverblue in your grandma's computer, surely she can't break _that._
Two things I'm thankful in regards to Windows 11. The first is that, for some reason that may have been my error in the setup process, I ended up with a dual-boot system with both Win 10 and Win 11. The second is that I cloned my Windows 10 system to a new M.2 drive, because the dual boot installation scrambled a lot of data on the drive I was updating. I say all this because, though I thought I'd find some of the new features of Win 11 useful, I found there were more changes to the user interface that had changed or eliminated the way I worked with Windows on a day-to-day basis. It was the accumulation of small changes here and there that overwhelmed the few positive changes that were made. I gave it most of a day, booted back to Windows 10, and have not gone back. In fact, I'm seriously thinking of pulling the boot drive and installing the cloned drive and completely pulling the plug on Windows 11. Oh, did I mention that for some reason, the Win 11 installation process also formatted my D: drive, which was a separate physical HDD on which I stored all my data from different programs? The one drive that for some serious, irresponsible oversight, I had not backed up with a clone? After the Win 11 installation I tried to access a data file and found everything had disappeared. Poof! At that point I shut the computer down and disconnected power and data to it to prevent overwriting. Since then I've been able to recover a genealogy file that contained 30 years of research, Quicken data, and am in the process of recovering as much as possible (and then back it up to a remote location).
As a (mainly) Windows user I was waiting for your review! I work in IT and have been using Windows since I was a kid with 3.1, DOS and so on and, despite some minor things, I fully agree with your review. Windows 11 is indeed beatuiful to look at, the new design feels fresh while also making you feel at home, there's some new things under that hood and so on... ...BUT all the preinstalled dumb social apps, the menus from Windows 7/Vista, the right click menu being dumbed down, the constant forcing of Edge and many more things are the reason why I'm moving to MacOS with a MacBook Air for the software I absolutely need for work after many years, while keeping PopOS on my personal PCs where I don't need the Affinity suite and stuff like that. Microsoft did a step in the right direction, but some of these things you(and I) mentioned are a joke at this point. I mean, why the heck should I still see the same Windows 7 partitioning menu when I'm installing a new computer? Sure it gets the job done but it came out in 2009...time to update all these "minor" things that, added together, ruin the experience and cohesiveness.
@@gonzalolog I'm not speaking about the tool itself but it's UI: it still has the components of Windows 7, same with the operating system itself. It's like if you opened the MacOS Finder now with its new design, then right-clicked a file and saw the Snow Leopard menus fonts and such pop up...I mean why?
@@jamesm820 well there's no need for them to change it entirely, they could just keep it exactly the same while using the design language of the current Windows 11 OS which would make sense.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Nope. Even for sponsored video, he often criticize the product, pointing the flaws and target demographic. Also, Anthony from LTT is Linux enthusiast and he made a lot of good Linux and open-source related content. If you're refering to new Linux Challenge videos, Linus part was made in perspective of average user. The one that probably never know that command line is exist.
A few critiques as a Windows user. - My Surface Pro 2, unsupported, took less than 3 hours to install, including download, including the workaround, with little stutter or issue that you had mentioned. So blame the VM, perhaps, not Windows - Getting .exe from the web isn't totally safe, agreed, but you do realise even Linux archives can be hacked? And for apt-get, you need some Linux know-how and are relying on some stranger posting the right command to execute. Just as unsecure as a possibility of hack. - People do whine about privacy, but no offense, having to get a new distro every 2 years because the company managing the current "good" distro has sunk into losses isn't anything good. And the ads facilitate that, a highly subsidized OS that isn't going away. Only the forcing of MS Edge is the real Ballmer era stuff, IMO, for f**k sake man, they don't even cut off all features and capabilities without a Product Key, and are officially listing bypasses for their own requirement of TPM. As I said, yes I am a Windows fan and you're a Linux fan, but empty accusations and hating them just for ads is really stupid IMO, this isn't a case of them holding your actual images and recordings hostage under "pRiVacY", no offense. They just check browsing history for some ads.
I feel about windows 11 exactly the same. I bought a new hp envy and upgraded to windows 11. Windows 11 is ideed just one layer deep paintshop. So after seriously tested it for one day i installed Ubuntu and found out that Ubuntu runs way better on my envy. It's less hot, no more fan running and more battery time than on windows. I officially don't like windows at all.
I haven't even touched Windows 11, but I found that Pop OS runs way better on my HP laptop than Windows did. It doesn't wake up from sleep and overheat at random anymore. I was also pleasantly surprised to see that the HP Pen with pressure sensitivity and eraser, touchscreen, and keyboard disabling itself when folded 360 degrees (this is done by a driver which sometimes didn't trigger on Windows, not by the laptop itself) were all fully functional. Windows also was giving me a problem where the microphone would sometimes stop working after I woke it up from sleep, and it wouldn't work until I restarted the laptop, and often there was no Restart option, just an Update and Restart option, which isn't ideal when I had meetings starting in a few minutes... No problems with mic in Pop OS
@metro2002 that was the same for me, i use linux also 20 years or so. But on this new laptop it runs really longer on the battery about 1 too 1.5 hours. I think it has to do with the fan, on windows it's spinning a lot when browsing etc. On Linux it's stays cooler so the fan isn't running at all. That saves battery.
@metro2002 Using Powertop, TLP etc I've always been able to get within 10 to 20 percent of the rated Windows spec. That's running Mint on Acer's, and HP's. Given how optimistic those Windows specs tend to be, it might actually be somewhat less.
Made the switch back to Windows 11 recently. I thought I would have gotten tired of it quickly but that didn't happen. I was surprised at how simple a lot of things were, especially when you contrast it to what is parrotted in the Linux community. Setting up my web developer environment was actually easier on Windows. A lot "just works" and I appreciate that. I definitely run into much fewer problems on Windows. I think that is one major reason I haven't gone back to Linux. I think if Linux users apply the same level of criticism to Linux as much as they do to Windows then they'd be more humble about their claims that Linux is "better". If the compositor for Windows crashed as much as X or Wayland, or if audio handlers in Windows were as fickle as Pulse Audio or Pipewire, Windows be crucified. It's easy to be a Linux user and make claims about how much better it is when a certain level of hypocrisy is involved. I suppose that's the case with most things in life.
I think you over-estimate most user cases. How many are actually web developers? Over 90% of PC users are simply web browsing, emailing or using word processing software. In most popular Linux distro's you will find Firefox or Chromium an Email client and Libre Office Suite. That covers most people and is very stable, well established programs. Not to say Linux and the community doesn't have it's problems, but i can assure you there are plenty who do report the issues or else how would we know of its problems?
welp, most Windows users don't criticize the issues of that OS, and they ask Linux to have things that not even Windows has, an example was what happened with Pop_OS!, although it was a rather unfortunate event and System76 is clearly the culprit, Windows isn't exempt from having similar troubles, because it also uses the traditional software installation model based on basic admin permissions, and similar things are still open to happen, like get a kernel-level anti-cheat that breaks the OS, when that happens they blame the developer of the anti-cheat (because he obviously has it) or that exact anti-cheat or DRM become broken with new hardware like the new Alder Lake CPUs (some even blame Intel for this, which is completely ridiculous) , but you'll never see anyone blame Windows for having an archaic wizards-based installation method, that under the logic of those who criticize the entire Linux desktop thanks to Pop_OS, will be a totally valid complaint. Wayland and X stability depends on many factors, generally the GPU driver, if it's NVIDIA, it's their responsibility to solve it, NVIDIA is heavily criticized in the Linux community due to the proprietary nature of its drivers, and they do not follow the graphic stack standards (Mesa, GBM) they have also refused to give Wayland full support, until now. almost all of the hardware we use is proprietary, so we are highly dependent on the will of manufacturers for driver support.
I believe that Linux users are trying to convince themselves that they are happier and more "free", I tried to for many years but I got tired of always having to look for work-arounds for the most basic programs. got tired of entering codes in a terminal for basic things to work properly. it just got tiring.. at least windows works... no more running virtual boxes, no more trying to make games work with the likes of WINE, no more entering in codes just to play a simple game or to download stuff, it becomes a hassle. also Microsoft's Doc's are way better than anything Linux has to offer- it was just another hassle I didn't want anymore. Linux users are trying their hardest to convince themselves that its better but its not, its CRAP at its finest.
So glad and rewarding that I switched away from Windows to Linux ,pulled my hair out in the past 6months but so loving this Linux thing and finally in my 48th year of life I'm actually learning to use a computer!! Thank You Linux and see ya Windows ,wouldn't wanna be ya!!!! Banging Content Nick!!!! Fan Boy or Linux Guru??? Asking for a friend?
As Linux and Windows user, I use Windows for professional tools needed for my work. Even if I find the Linux equivalent for myself my customers won't and at the end everyone from my team to every customer has Windows. Secondly,. I could care less for look and feel in professional environment. Menu looks and shades etc are irrelevant compared to solid functionality and dependability. And Windows is a very dependable OS.
I've always had to use Windows at work and since I'm currently laid off, ;-( I'm using W11 just to keep current on what I'll probably use at my next job. Once you get it set up it looks and feels OK if like me you use MS Services. I did get one neat little fix: Volume is finally loud enough when watching YT. W10 was quieter than Linux on the same machine. It's still very Windows-y though and my battery life isn't as good as running a light version of Linux like Xubuntu, or even W10. IMO it's really not that different from W10. If I had to run Windows and had a PC that couldn't upgrade to 11 I personally wouldn't worry and just run W10 until it's no longer supported.
I'm sticking with Windows 10 for the time being. Unless they make a Windows 12 that is hopefully an improvement, or I see a Linux OS that's right for my needs, the only other way I'll stop using Windows 10 is when it stops being supported by 2025. By then I'll have no choice but to switch anyway.
Yeah same. I like Win10, except for its privacy stuff. I’ve installed pop OS, but except for privacy it’s no improvement whatsoever. Even my keyboard settings have changed multiple times for no apparent reason. I won’t get Win11 anytime soon. I’ll switch if I must in 2025, but I hope by then I’ve found a good linux distro that does everything I want from windows.
@@DanDanDoe I'm hoping to find a Linux distro that doesn't require too much coding, has proper access to my files and directories, allows me to access downloads via Firefox or some other Linux browser and is decent at running games. On my mini PC, I am using Batocera, which is specially designed for emulation and has already come a fair way over the past few years since its launch.
There is nothing really wrong with W11. For me it is faster. Would say the same for most people. It really went the way of just getting out of the way. Which is a plus.
@@christopherfortney2544 Well, I'll probably be forced to upgrade to Windows 11 anyway once I purchase a new laptop, just as soon as I can afford one that is. My current one is two years old at this point, and has been pretty serviceable compared to some of my past laptops. The only times I've had major problems was getting software to work, and that was mainly down to broken HID USB drivers. With that said, I'll have to consider both the price and if it will be an improvement compared to my current one overall, as I can't afford to jump the gun and buy one willy nilly. Another important factor is how I can sustain massive storage for all my files and have enough USB drives to condensate. Unfortunately, it's not easy when you live in an area where options are rather limited.
Hi, I'm a Windows fanboy. Haven't used Linux since 2004 - but I'm really considering switching in the future. I loved Win7, 8 and 10, but I'm not switching to 11... at least yet. Not only because my hardware doesn't support it but I also don't like most of the changes. I use the taskbar at the top, for example. Hopefully my next OS will be Linux, but lets see.
Well, I "up-sized" from Xp to Linux Mint & never looked back. You might want to device a plan: 1) try some LiveCD/DVD/USB bootable distro to see which would detect your devices out of the box. 2) install short-listed distro into VMs like Virtualbox and see if you are able to use it as a daily driver. * ... just rmb that installing Linux directly onto h/w is likely much faster in performance than those 2 methods above. * 3) Just make sure you make proper backups b4 migration or dual/multi-boot. I did multi-boot just to learn & experience it. Some might opt to skip though. 4) Backup & Migrate. Now I keep a windows VM just for those once in a blue moon need. VM Snapshots make it really easy to undo windows corruptions & make an otherwise unstable OS more tolerable. Just my 2 cents for whosoever might need this. HTH.
About not carrying over Dark Mode on some menus, M$ is notorious for using subcontractors for writing their virgin code. As a result, they have no clue what's inside some of their boxes. As a result of THAT, they have no ability to rewrite or modify these elements of the OS.
They're also corporate-captialist cheapasses who will not invest more than what is needed for generating the big money. Their coding is notoriously crappy.
!? The 'Installer' for windows isn't just setting up a user account. not sure where you got that from. Secondly, if I just spent say .. 1300$USD+ on a surface device... why the fucking hell would I not want location services to track it? (Like Seriously, it's the same kind of moronic thought process that would get a 1300-1500+ Samsung Note/S Phone (or even Apple device), and then turn off location tracking ....) Secondly, This is a problem with linux users & THEY NEED a mental checkup if you think the following. - You have to revamp Every under the hood feature/function, even when it just works & isn't meant to be stared at. Sorry ... just no, While the deep menus & system functionality access like 'device manager' are basicaly the 'same' when it comes too the how & power, doesn't mean what you think it does. -It's worked & they got it right from the first steps. They don't need to add more bells and whistles to what amounts to 'click device, right click uninstall/update/properties(pause)' They don't need to actively confuse & change up icons for core functionality that was nailed perfectly. == Would it be nice if it color flipped into the dark mode.. sure, but let's not pretend that's a high priority either... I'd rather they work on Under the hood nonsense, the internal engine bits & bots... finish Working feature sets (WSA - WIndows subsystem for Android, for one) and polish them before they configure every god damn'd sub menu & power user/admin use only menu in all the colors of the rainbow. Seriously... They've been attempting since the launch of 8.x to replace the damn'd control pannel.. and that's been the dumbest shit ever... It's now gotten to a point where w11 (while I love it myself) has barely gotten to any sense of competence when it comes to the control panel stand in, and even that... I still need the control panel to access certain aspects & remove even some dumb ass programs that seem to be ... just badly done .. (every OS get those sadly) Also, can we fuck off with the whole 'universal Appstore' nonsense? OMFG ... can you actually imagine a singular storefront for windows that contained even 75% of 'popular' apps? LEt me add my install of Davinci Resolve (14, because the newer ones hate my physical stick), ontop of The Blackmagic drivers, their capture/display software... Ontopo of Every version of sound & Bluetooth software for the insane mirade of HW out there. Then .. include.. itunes, Steam, gog galaxy, uplay, origin, and ... functional & updated web portal apps to places like siriusXM, & cable service providers like Xfinity for in home streaming, along with bank app portals.. OH, and SOme how authenticate what amounts to 20+ years of software that still works on windows... with a simple click, oh and all of that do so in the manditory Secure & flexible way to install to multiple locations so it can be choosen where to install, and also not invalidate HDCP protections as well. Jesus... while WIndows AppStore has greatly improved... We still install shit directly & use launchers like steam, gog galaxy, origin, Uplay, adobe creative cloud, etc. so we can install where WE WANT, without having to consider security & needed measures for programs that aren't even related to what is being installed, played, or used. Yes, because how fucking dare someone want to keep a version of a software >..> It's almost as if the chronic need to update ..everything all the time leads to people making dumb ass choices, and end up makind poor security choices. Also, win-get... is a god damn'd annoyance .. Like if the program has a self updater... the damn'd thing just borks itself into stupidity.. and it becomes useless with other managers that also have update commands (like steam, where you can literally force it to check for a games updates via command line) also.. Get the f over yourself... 'same kernel' my ass.. you mean like the linux kernel that's reintroduced the same user privilege elevation a minimal of 5-7 times? Not every 'update' has to doll up what doesn't need to be changed.
Windows 10 was great, the design was pretty much the same everywhere. Windows 11 tries to go for this big design language change but only applies it to the very surface layer of the OS, which just makes it feel like Windows 10 with a custom skin or something.
Even windows 10's design language wasn't consistent, some apps like settings and the microsoft app store used a revamped GUI while others like the control panel or device manager used old GUIs from past versions. Windows 11 just seems to add one more design layer on top of windows 10's already inconsistent design languages.
The fact that it FORCES you to have Microsoft account before logging in and not allowing you to create offline local account was the line in the sand for me. Microsoft seems to think that I am renting my hardware from them or something.
Firstly, I do not like windows 11. But you can have a login without Microsoft account, i only have a local account on 2 windows11 installations! One of my windows 11 installations is on unraid(vm) and I just installed it, no reg editing needed... So it is not required it seems to happens sometimes. Otherwise great video, keep it up :)
You can create a local account even with internet access. You do not need to use a Microsoft account. You got this wrong. Microsoft simply "guides" you to create a Microsoft account and hides the local account option by making it unintuitive (unless you already expected them to do as much.)
it only took me about 5 seconds into the video to hit that like button. The (almost) required Microsoft account is the nail in the coffin for me. Microsoft has almost screwed me over multiple times on its account integrations into Windows (but then again, im not most users). From a freedom and open source standpoint, the windows store DRM is something we should not be okay with. Ill take the old way of managing applications any day.
Win32 part is the only thing Windows really needs, all that Microsoft adds on top of it starting Windows 8 is just unnecessary bells and whistles and straight-up bloatware. As a hardcore Windows fan, I'm actually thankful that those old parts are still there
@@TheLinuxEXP it has been six years. Give Microsoft some slack. 😁 It took ten years for Linux DE to implement a mechanism to fall back to the last working display resolution setting when the user made an error...
It's amazing how the Linux view complaints are SO difrent from the Windows view complaints. Most amusing are the parts that you like what the windows users dislike (and vice-versa)...total 180. Thumbs up.
It's interesting how you think Windows is still the old Windows below the surface when you only have to dig half an inch to reveal that Linux is still a CLI with a shallow coat of paint applied🤔
The same can be said for Windows. If memory serves you can go to Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Command Prompt and interact with it the same way we did on DOS. Or I still do in DOSBox when I want to play an old game.
I have used Windows since 3.1, I have used Linux distros, I have used OS9 and OSX, and I have never been able to do everything I need on OS9 and OSX without installing either a Windows partition or a VM, same with any distro of Linux I have tried, for me Windows just works better for what I need and what I do, I think each OS has its advantages, as for myself I do prefer Windows, I do not understand the BSOD's that people get I have used every version of Windows from 3.1 on to Windows 11 (except for NT, ME and 2000 as well as server editions) and I have maybe had 6 crashes ever, meanwhile I have tried Mint, Ubuntu, Arch, Debian, etc. and have run into multiple crashes, incompatibility errors, and other bugs, the most issues I have ever had with a computer is with a macbook I had a few years ago, but for the way I have used computers. and software personally, Windows offers me all the best options, the right amount of customizations, the backwards compatibility, drivers, etc than any other choice, and I do do registry tweaks, have my file extensions shown edit dll's and other system level tweaks, use powershell and CMD and power user things. I value open source hardware and software, having said that my daily driver is a Windows 10 machine (getting new rig that will be Windows 11 in a few months) because even though it is proprietary, and cost money the opportunity cost of finding a linux workaround etc is just not worth it. I respect the fact you prefer Linux, and I wish that Linux people could understand why and respect the fact that Windows can and does work better for some people and applications. Can't we all just admit nothing is perfect and that certain OS's work better for some and others work better for others
"You should have to fight your computer to do what you want to do on it" (owtte) is one of the incredibly powerful factors as to why I am adopting Linux.
I wish nvidia and other big device manufacturers would treat linux as a first class citizen and create drivers for it (and not the horrendous ones like for nvidia gpus). That would just make linux so much more accessible to people. Hope steam deck would be a giant success and would push more gamers to try linux on their desktop PCs.
As a life long windows user, I agree with literally everything here. Especially with the cosmetics, but as long as my issues remain with the look and feel of a few apps I very rarely use, I’ll still stick to windows. I won’t and never have said that Linux is inferior, there’s a reason it still exists and that it’s getting more and more popular. Until someone streamlines how to use Linux to where I never have to use the terminal and can properly game without workarounds. That’s the day I’ll happily switch to Linux.
@@stephanepiquemal8297 You just admitted to being limited, by saying you choose carefully, which means you are limited by definition. Windows rarely suffers from such, if it plugs into a computer Windows probably supports it, no joke Windows still supports floppy drives. I use Linux, so don't think this is some kind of os fan thing. Linux is only good with servers which is my main use case, but once I'm done I boot up Windows and if I need to develop something on Linux I use WSL. I am pragmatist in software choices, Windows covers 95% of my use cases and Linux the other 5%.
@@devilmanscott Choosing the best hardware for your system is not being limited as long as it does all I want it to do. There are plenty of junk hardware on windows as well that you better not buy.
I haven't used Windows in any meaningful way since 2011, and between 2005 - 2009 I used Ubuntu more than Windows. Between 1992 & 2000 I was exclusively a Mac guy. I like Unix, be it a BSD, Mac, or Linux. I want my Unix.
I see windows as I see Linux, as I see mac Os. A way to do the thing you want it to do. There are differences in how things are done, sure; however; at the end of the day, they are all very good operating systems.
Great video! But how much easier than going to the windows settings and choosing from the list do you want choosing the default browser to be? You can even go to the browser settings and click "make default" and it will auto-open windows setting and let you choose from the list. Also, in my opinion, package manager is only good(though extremely convenient) for installing packages and libraries for programming or internal utilities because you usually don't need/have to have an idea on how they work. But when it comes to medium-big applications, I always go to the main website anyways before installing, because it immediately gives me full and structured information about the latest releases and changes, and a lot of times I actually end up installing non-latest versions because of potential comparability issues or radical design changes, which would be impossible or finicky within OS store or package manager. After all, you will install the app once or twice in several years, so giving yourself an update on what's new is fairly important. Plus, unless, you use search engines that have no website verification system, you will never end up on a fake/malicious website within the first result page.
To be completely honest, as a person who has some experience at linux(I've used ubuntu for about 6 months,kubuntu for a month) and for everyday use i prefer windows, I can see that I agree a lot with your opinion, but I love those "retro" system apps. For example control panel, task manager, device manager . Imo they're just beatufiull in their orginal look. Remember it's only my opinion! You can disagree with it
One more thing to add. I think the only reason Windows is “better”… is because of game developers. If every game developer started targeting Linux, or even MacOS, i think Windows’ dominance wouldn’t be as strong.
Generally your average user isn’t going to go into the older properties windows you dug down into. Users using those parts will also know about the command line. You can’t have it both ways! Also its not G-Nome - it’s Nome - the G is silent.
also isn't it better to dual boot if you have 2 different bootable drives just to get away from NTFS file system of windows which requires defragmentation for hard disks unlike linux's ext4 i think its called.
@@Gurj101 you install windows and Linux on two separate drives (even separate EFI partitions if you want to make them both bootable on their own) and you choose which one to boot with the bios boot menu (typically F11 depends on you motherboard). This way if one os breaks the other still works
What i love about Windows: I don't spend all my time troubleshooting some random issue. I can actually do work. Will try Linux again next year, hopefully by then my hardware issues will no longer be an issue. :(
@@TheLinuxEXP How? 🤔 if Windows has a pro is that everything just works, like that's the biggest thing it has, and honestly it's undeniable, I had way more instances of Linux preventing me from getting things done than Windows, and I've used both since 2007.
A big push for why Microsoft even made Windows 11 is that since lockdowns chromebooks have seen a surge of use and took up a bit more marketshare, so maybe 1-3 generations will be growing up with chromebooks via the aid of schools. Hence why Microsoft "needed" a big new splash of paint. All of the things in Windows 11 could of been done on Windows 10 but that would of been less exciting.
It seems that it’s had the opposite effect. Microsoft’s hefty system requirements have made my school unsure what to do following Windows 10 EOL. I’ve emailed some of my teachers informing them about Linux Mint, which may be futile, but the idea of using Chrome OS Flex for the latter half of my high school years was too insane for me to do nothing.
as a Windows user, I HATE Windows 11. but to call it inferior to Linux just because it has that "old ugly windows" hidden behind the superficial modern layer is stupid, to say the least. in fact, I think MS OSes from the period of 95 to XP were so superior that MS themselves don't know how to get rid of them without angering the userbase, heck I don't think they can outdo them without sacrificing performance. and installing EXEs from the internet is much more time-efficient than looking for the name for a package you want to install from the package manager and end-up needing to install tens of dependencies. the only drawback for EXEs is that there's no central way to track and manage their updates, something that the new store will hopefully solve with enough time.
Huh time effecient in what way? There's only one thing that takes time in cli pacman -S firefox Oh shiz forgot sudo sudo !! You are acting like you know exact url of every program on planet whereby you can reach download page instantly.
It's not just "one ugly window". It's the whole core of the OS which is still old and insecure. It's the lack of consistency. It's the barren store, the extremely inefficient install method, the viruses, the bad design, the anti user practices. . It's just a terrible OS.
@@herbertwestiron first, you're assuming I'm using pacman which I don't. Second, this cli is more efficient argument has been around forever way before pacman became a thing. Third, sure if you are fast at typing then writing might faster by some milliseconds than using GUI. But in reality even in CLI you have to visit websites to get repositories and such. The only time saving is in when updating as I have said. But that's just the nature of any package manager/app manager/app store and not the CLI. And hopefully with the new windows store this will be solved *fingers crossed*
@@TheLinuxEXP I understand your need for a coherent design, and you come from a Mac OS background I think so I don't blame you. But as someone who grew up on Windows it doesn't itch as much as it does to you. It's only annoying when you can't find some setting and it's hidden inside the legacy control panel, as I have read this has been improved with Windows 11.
@@mdhxx Irrelevant. You might have pacman, apt or yum. All the same. I am not assuming since I was talking about myself. Second. No you don't. Cli has search. You are still typing on your search engine lmao. Your argument doesn't even make sense Windows Find name of app -> Search on search engine > confirm that site you are using is legit > go to download page > press download > then install by pressing next. Linux > find name of application > search for application using your package manager > install the application. You are still typing on windows but you are also clicking. In case you know name of the application On windows follow same steps as above On linux just packagemanager install packagename. You only visit repos if you are adding extra software. At that point it's as same as windows but maintaining it is way faster. You can also just use binaries that many softwares offer just like windows. Just like you can use choclatey on windows. If package managers were worse that gui then chocolatey wouldn't be getting used now would it?
From what I understand from a developers perspective, they're still using the version of control panel from windows 7, and in order to have dark mode on that, they'd have to rewrite it. Now why they don't is beyond me. Literally, I could write a python script that changes the api calls and fix it right now if I wanted to. It's just one of those things that I don't want to do cause of microsoft.
11:56 "Insecure kernel and system" Really... this is such an obnoxious sentence. There may even be merit to it, but given that I strongly believe that such a small percentage of the global population can make claims like that while backing it with knowledge; is it really necessary? 🤦🏻♂️
Let me put it this way: if a safe passes its tests with good scores but then users leave it open at home, would it be fair to claim that the safe is not secure? In my eyes, that'd be spreading misinformation. I hope you agree.
Linux isn't bad, but it sometimes is more tedious than necessary. Yesterday I wanted to use a USB modem on my ubuntu based machine. It worked in the past (several years ago) right out of the box, but now I had to install usb-modeswitch. I tried to get it working for like 2 hours, but finally gave up. I used the same Stick on Windows, installed the driver and it told me that my SIM card was not supported. That took like 5 minutes to find out on Windows but I could not tell on Linux. TLDR: Windows is bad, but Linux has no say in what _user friendly_ is, because they also fail big time in some scenarios.
I would say that Windows is really user friendly. But it is plagued by user privacy issues, data collection and facilitates the installation of viruses by not have a decent enough store options.
@@KuruGDI I assume you mean customisability, and i'd say it depends on the perspective - good for beginners because it limits the amount of options and prevents overwhelming them. But obviously for power users being able to customise EVERYTHING is the best. User freedom i generally accept over limitation. So all they'd need to do is have a setting that says "I know what I'm doing" and let people customise it to their hearts content to really hit both markets.
Okay, counter points; a lot of this is simply because you're not use to the OS. When I first started using Linux I hated it, diving into the console, showhow managing to do some kind of Sudo command, so on. In the same way a Windows user is use to looking for a installer file. Most folk don't even use the Microsoft store. Someone moving to linux for the first time as well won't be able to figure out how to uninstall firefox or any preinstalled bloatware a distro might think you'll need. Windows ain't perfect, but calling Linux vastly superior is kinda untrue. If windows was a Linux Distro it'd be easily be seen by you as one of the greats, 100%. Maybe not Windows 11, but given time too mature it'll feel great.
I daily drive Windows and I've used Linux in the past.... I have to say that Windows is superior to Linux in gaming and in productivity software (Microsoft Office 365 and the Adobe Suite comes to mind).
... Unpopular opinion BUT.. I'll share my sad truth. I was forced to use a Windows as a work OS by my employer after 15+ years of freedom from BSOD, Windows Defender, Windows Update and all that crap. I just used Linux and MacOS. And I was happy and considered windows an horrible product. Aaaand... I have to admit that I found it usable and very productive in daily usage. Of course my enterprise version of windows 10 is super locked (I can't even change my desktop background) but it works. Of course everything you said about MS data collection and user hostility is still valid, and I wouldn't trade my Manjaro powered PC and my M1 mac mini for a windows box. But people often see everything black and white. And recent versions of windows are actually more usable than the ones I remembered from the windows xp era.
"Clean" and "super simple" are not positives. Neither is the gradients, rounded corners, etc. all over the place. Windows 2000 has a much better UI than Windows 11.
As a person who uses both windows and linux (fedora 37, last few months as daily driver), here is my opinion.. Linux is for nerds, servers and developers for work PC (10% of the population). Windows is for people who want to have it all (from multimedia, gaming... to do professional work in all professions) MacOS is for people who want power of unix, fun from multimedia, do some professional work in most of professions, have the nice consisten well polished GUI, who like to give away money to evil corp. Or want to have M1/2 chips on their hand becuase it's honestly amazing (while my dell xps 15 oled i7 lasts 3 hours on battery, getting all fans cranked up, chassy being able to coock eggs, the stupid M1 macbook air can outperform the i7 cpu while being cold, silent, lasting 16 hours and costing 1000€ less) why windows is superior to linux: - you can install msi, exe,... files. but can you install debian package on a rpm machine or vice versa? Adding software repos from terminal to install a certain app that's not available? how's that different from downloading an exe from official website... or compiling from source because the author made it only for debian and wished good luck to non debian users. - updates don't break the system (nvidia driver, dkms, kernel update,... rings a bell when you boot into tty and you need to google on your phone how to fix that shit) - hidpi support + fractional scaling without performance loss, (I guess it's ok on KDE but god help me how terrible it's on gnome) - hdr, dolby, dts,... - while windows default media player can handle 4K smoothly, when I open 4k video on totem or other default video player it just stops responding. - SCREEEN SHOT TOOOL! by default on linux you can create a screenshot (fullscreen / area) but non of them allows you to type/draw on them! you need the only one app that exists for it and it's flameshot, which does not work on gnome wayland and somehow works on kde wayland. - wide range of commercial apps that are available on mac and windows but not on linux and they don't work with wine - hassle-free video proprietary video driver install, basically last few years I did not need to install any GPU driver, it was there by default working at 110% performance. - better sound mixer by default - windowing server and window manager... x11 and wayland just sucks! one is slow and old the second does not really play well with some gpu drivers and apps, does not support nigh mode, etc... - on windows you might be limited to the default style, but it's still better than all the inconsistencies between gtk2, gtk3, gtk4 (libadwaida) which is not really backward compatible , qt,... theme developers and app developers are slow to adopt new stuff, finger print readers on notebooks... - windows exploder, sorry explorer. nautilus you cannot enter path manually unless you press ctrl+l which does not work everywhere, sure you can install for example dolphin but that just another app that looks different because it's from different desktop environment. Windows/file explorer just have more options. - You can set for your user where on disk your "documents/videos/...." will be, for example, on windows I set my downloads/pictures/movies folder to another disk (which on linux by default requires root priviledges to mount!! WTF!?) and set documents to be on onedrive & synced. So when I reinstall windows I dont need to create backup of my users directory because everything is a) symlinked b) in the cloud - on linux you cannot drag & drop from any archive manager to a location to extract something to desired location and on gnome by default it extracts the whole file content to the relative directory of the archive (why cant I just open and browse it?) - on linux file managers crashed multiple times while copying large number of files, and few times using cut and paste resulting data loss. - gaming! proton and wine are not perfect and not everything works - better battery life (tpl just limits stuff that does not even need to be limited) - better memory management (god knows how many times I needed hard restart in 2022 because my ram was full,... other times systemd just shut down the most important app I used to free up memory) - no need to play with driver specific configs to eliminate audio lag, screen tearing (for desktop apps like nautilus when dragging around),... - no performance issues with 4k video playback on youtube,... even when HW acceleration is enabled and supported by browser and GPU/iGPU/cpu the performance hit is higher than on windows - default browser (chromium based Edge) is just much faster and packs more features than firefox which is probably a dead project, but it works best on linux when it comes down to integration and hw acceleration, but definetly does not have the best performance - default mail/calendar/... apps are just better and nicer and integrates extremely well with the system. Gnome calendar integration with "system tray" is really good, but thunderbird is like 20 years old and really sucks, other mail clients are maybe nicer but with less features. KDE cant even show events from calendar in the tray. - you can have linux cli (and even experimentally linux gui) apps on windows in WSL. but docker kind of sucks on windows even if it uses WSL. - multi-touch especially on MS precision touchpad is just better. - mouse 4- mouse 5 on windows explorer works as forward/backward - and many more. Why linux is better: - probably more secure - less telemetry - better file system - it's just more comfy to do updates - shell is just better, with better tools - you can tell your friend you hate to type sudo rm -rf / - bragging rights being nerd and excuse for superiority complex - highly customizable (depending on apps and grakphical tool kits they are using) - you feel good about yourself not supporting just another evil coporation - you can be nerd in KDE, in Gnome (or G-nome, gNOME,...), lxde, xfce, cinnamon,... in arch, in rhel, suse, debian, freebsd - just apt/dnf/... install dev tools and local servers/databases Many linux fans just don't see how much everyday quality of life features they are missing on linux and how much time they need to spend to set up everything to work properly or at least well enough to not kill yourself. Linux is really only for devs, nerds and servers. Every day there is 10 new videos titled "is the Foo Bar - XY the best linux distro yet?" you try it oh nice, same backend as other 200 distros with different UI component arrangement and that's the cold truth. All the issues quality of life issues with linux I have mentioned are there for more than 10 years. If all devs creating all those distros would rather focus on improving wayland, kernel, gnome/kde apps or creating new improved versions of apps that does not suck then linux would be much better.
I find it weird that everyone is bashing Microsoft for the account drama, while nobody is talking about what Apple is doing with theirs. Sure, macOS is not as obnoxious with forcing you to log in as Windows, but if you want to install _anything_ from the App Store, even if it's free... well, you need to log in. And you can't make an account without telling Apple your freaking phone number (well, there's a workaround for that, but that requires you to put in your credit card number instead, so... yeah), which is just insane. And they'll heavily push you into enabling 2FA, which is of course generally a good thing if you actually use the cloud services, but if you're just making a throwaway account to be able to install free apps (some of which are not available anywhere else), it's probably not what you want. On Windows, on the other hand, yes, you need to go offline, and in the newest version even do some command-line-fu (or hacks with invalid email addresses), but once you actually manage to bypass the login, you're pretty much golden. I'm honestly not sure if it's really worse compared to what macOS is doing. Of course Linux solves everything, but... Sometimes you may need an OS that actually supports commercial software.
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please do Another reviews of Windows 11 after 1.5 year because right now windows 11 is a piece of garbage with any many bugs in the system and missing feature or removed feature.
How did you make this comment 7 days ago when you only uploaded this 5 hours ago??!
@@MysteryMan159 dude i noticed that too. i thought i was crazy or smth
@@MysteryMan159 the video is already uploaded, it was private or unlisted
7:12 because you faked the location.
Windows 11 is the distro with the most bloated KDE implementation, it's a mystery how they do it.
Hahah true
While having minimal customisation option
@@applecastaway4256 It's pretty much true excluding theme patchers, 7tsp etc. (but it's still a third party process that is tedious and can brick your OS if you don't do everything right, I'm talking about Windows customization of course. Linux customization is REALLY BETTER)
I'm convinced it's the obsession with backwards compatibility. Believe it or not, Windows 11 *still* supports floppy disks without any additional drivers.
Heck, you still, to this day, can not name a file "CON", "PRN", "AUX", "NUL", etc because of the antiquated way that MS-DOS used to handle hardware.
Not to mention the fact that the Windows Vista Basic theme still exists within Windows, despite the fact that you can't actually use it.
Even Microsoft Excel was purposefully written to believe that February 29, 1900 is a real date that actually exists in order to replicate a Lotus 1-2-3 bug.
You can run Windows 3.0's Program Manager in 32-Bit Windows 10 with the addition of NTVDM. Although this one seems to be ending with Windows 11, since they seem to have dropped the 32-bit version.
I could go on, but one thing is clear: Microsoft seems to be prioritizing allowing extremely old programs and hardware to function properly over making their system cohesive and stable - and I feel that's likely a major contributor to Windows 11's overall bloat.
@@pantallahueso Which is why it's ironic that I originally started using Linux because old games I had wouldn't run any longer on Windows 10, but ran perfectly in WINE and Proton.
It's honestly sad that caring about privacy and acting to protect your privacy is considered a nerd thing to do 😕
"But I don't have anything to hide!"
@@archetype6351 lmao
@@archetype6351 "bUt I dOnT hAvE aNyThInG tO hIDe!"
For now my friend, for now...
@@archetype6351 In that case, we'll change the law so that you do!
@@archetype6351 Saying that is like saying "I don't want freedom of speech because I have nothing to say".
The one really nice thing that Windows does really well is backward compatibility. You can run a binary that was compiled for Windows 2000 perfectly fine on Windows 11. And that really matters in the Windows ecosystem, since a lot of people run closed source apps that don’t get updates anymore.
Yeah ah good luck running some XP era and especially older than that- games though without a VM in Windows.
"You can run a binary that was compiled for Windows 2000 perfectly fine on Windows 11"
No you can't. Yeah, maybe some basic stuff, but anything even slightly complicated and it doesn't work at all.
Wine can run old Windows apps better than Windows can.
@@aprilnya Yes , you can.
It looks like they maybe moving away from that principal with windows 11
@@motoryzen You're right. NFS II SE already needed a shady patch on Windows XP to make it run, I can't even imagine if I could play it ever again on 10 or 11.
"If people tolerate this on Windows" - Most Windows users *don't know better* 'cause all they're used to is Windowsland.
There is no other Windows distro to go to lol
There is no way for me to switch to Linux, I need Adobe apps for work.
@@egarjanis dualboot
@@egarjanis some Adobe apps work AFAIK with Windows Apps for Linux and you can dual-boot and/or use a VM.
People are conditioned to only know that Windows exists as an operating system, and Mac OS, but anything else is wizardry black magic.
I've been dual-booting Windows and Linux since 2013 but I'm on Windows the vast majority of the time. Windows is just far better for games and using certain exclusive applications such as Photoshop, but the far bigger problem for me is that for some reason my Linux installs keep breaking themselves mysteriously after a while. On both Mint and Pop!_OS, I've had the WiFi/LAN components remove themselves from the system and I have no idea how and why that happened. Ubuntu and Pop!_OS each once made themselves unbootable, making a really long boot screen and ending up with an empty desktop. Manjaro once killed its package manager leaving me with a system unable to update whatsoever. As usually, all these problems had a thousand solutions on the internet and none of them worked, leaving me no choice but to reinstall Linux. That stuff just doesn't happen on Windows. It's a far more reliable system in my experience. And even if something goes wrong, the solutions on the internet commonly work and continue working for years because Windows doesn't change its freaking dependencies all the time.
What MS does very well is laying eggs early - they plant their products into schools, kids learn Windows and when they start working they even don't realize Matrix has got them. Except they get into IT where Neo hands them Linux pill and Windows becomes for them just a typewriter or communicator in VM.
This is almost 1:1 to my experience. I was I introduced to windows as a daily driver by school and now I’m taking a cybersecurity class where we exclusively use Kali VMs (that we we are encouraged to experiment with) and now I’m seriously considering using Linux as my OS of choice on everything besides my (Nvidia) gaming PC.
I would say that these days, Google and Apple are doing an even better job of this. With the MacBook school programs and Chromebooks’ cheap price and easy administration, a lot of students end up with these devices in their hands.
Windows is the best OS. No Linux compares to it. Sure, you can use Linux, iFYOU areunprofessional. GIMP? Ahaha, no thanks.
@@sigmawolf228 Best for what? Try running database (except MSSQL )or Hadoop or like on it. And then try to run orchestration and management scripts for Linux infrastructure from Windows. Windows is nice for what it is - run Windows-only software requiring native (not emulated) environment, that's it. Even for Web browsing there are many great alternatives.
@@sigmawolf228 that is no linux Fault but adobe. Altough i think i can get photoshoo to run on my laptop. Cracked of course im not goinf to pay for it
It's amazing how blatantly anti-user the post-Nadella Windows versions have been that they actually make me miss the old Ballmer-led Windows XP and Windows 7. Not that I would ever go back to them, but in hindsight I can see how much more respecting of the user those two were over the ad-platform-and-data-collection-spyware-disguised-as-operating-system that Windows has become since 8.
Exactly. I actually enjoyed using xp & Windows 7 was great. But it's been downhill ever since.
Good point. In face, they seem to be taking away features that were actually useful in Win 10 (or burying them deeper in the UI). I remember back in the Gates-Ballmer days when MS would hire actual users to work with them in refining the user interface to make it easier to use. In the Win 11 changes, it feels like changes are being made just to make changes (or maybe just people trying to justify their jobs).
I feel the same way. Windows 7 is not well supported any more. 10 is a privacy nightmare. 11 is just crap, putting ads that trick you into installing apps is disgusting! I use 10 but with ShutUp10 to remove the spyware Microsoft has built into it.
@@balesjo They DID remove features in Windows 11, you can no longer move the taskbar like you could in 10. Also going from 7 to 10 removes Windows Media Center and the Win 7 apps.
ballmer is actually a smart guy, math major at harvard is no joke
Microsoft knows that most users wont use things like device manager so they wont use resources on eye candy for those programs. Side complain: Microsoft teams is horrible!!!
ya, Teams is horrible.
I'd love them to polish up & beef up WSA myself. >.> getting better preformance & officially supported Google PlayStore would be great.. (*cough*... totally have it put on my SP8 atm)
There's no excuse for not updating Notepad though!
Meanwhile linux: "why even make a gui when you can use the command line"
@@shaunpatrick8345 they didn't even put auto save, that's why i switched to notepad++
@@namesurname4666 I just use visual studio code for anything text. It is much more pleasing to use than NP++
Ah yes, that moment when you turn into Sméagol when Microsoft does something stupid, I think we can all relate to that one, well done Nick.
Always happens
This video is clearly overly subjective rather than an objective approach. "I dislike X" literally is the same with "X is objectively bad" in this presentation.
Nested Menus of old Windows operating systems (7 and earlier) are far superior to Windows 11 Start Menu.
A simple list of pinned apps and quick access folders is far superior to any search.
Start Menu Search should only search for installed programs and Control Panel/Settings App settings.
If I need web results, I'll open up a browser. If I need file results, I'll open up Explorer and use the Search function there.
I'm of the opposite opinion- I use the search function of both Linux and Windows more than I actually click the icons. Does this mean I could probably just use terminal to do the same thing? Most likely. But I also like search results if I want them.
I use ShutUp10 to disable web search in Start Menu. but since my Win 10 Start Menu doesn't work right because of a bug in Windows 10 I replaced it with Classic Shell
@@FallenHarts Hence why only one solution is the actual solution. Provide user with an option to configure how his search functions.
@@JacobP81 I also use only Classic Shell on Windows 10. On Windows 11 I use StartAllBack, but it's missing some features. Still it's way better than what Windows provides you with by default.
The problem Windows will have with search is Finder is HEAVILY patented. W7 got pretty close to it.
When i first tried out linux (KDE Neon) at the recommendation of a friend, the first thing that stood out (besides the confusion of only having a taskbar on my second monitor and trying to fix that, along with the single click app opening) was how coherent and consistent the settings menu and store were. No more random control panel opening when i want to mess with microphone settings, nothing like that. I still use Windows 10 for compatibility reasons, but god damn do i miss KDEs aesthetic
I've recently switched to Kubuntu (KDE Plasma Desktop) and I cannot go back to Windows... it's too pretty and lovely to use
@@quartzar Same, I'm running KDE Neon and I've personalized it 100% to my liking. And with improving support on Linux for gaming? Bye Windows :)
I do think it's a bit weird that Linux out of the box doesn't put a taskbar/panel on every monitor and you have to force it. (At least the distros I've used)
I wonder if you could do an 'is x user friendly' on windows/mac os. I think it would be interesting to see how a new user may look at windows and how user friendly it is.
Imo it gained popularity due to it being the only option (aside from macOS) in the 90s, and from there people didn't want to switch
It's planned :)
@@TheLinuxEXP what do you mean by "it's planned"? I kinda like your channel and your reviews but I'm just learning about computers... but what does your comment mean?
Thanks in advance
I am a hobbyist developer and a gamer. I exclusively use Linux. I used to have Windows as well on this machine, but after a bit of just never booting into it (and at the time it was BSoDing on boot for some reason), I decided to just get rid of the partitions.
Same for me, I had a second drive with windows and 2 days ago I deleted it to use as a storage space for my games as I didn't boot into it for 3 months.
I still use Windows because, games and proprietary hardware. Not all Steam games run on proton flawlessly, same with Lutris but it’s making a good case for itself - but the process of reinstalling the same client for different games (Origin, Uplay, GoG) and not finding and sharing the existing game profiles is kind of jarring having to start over. Vermintide 2 in Linux plays great but because of EAC you can’t make progress, so that’s one incentive less.
I’ve wanted to get an AIO printer but the lack of Linux compatibility lists, or outdated ones, make it hard to decide, and if even if it’s compatible I don’t know if the managing software exists. I rarely print but it’s good to have in cases, not to mention I want to scan in photos of and from my late dad and comics I’ve accumulated.
Then there’s my Oculus Quest 1, Elgato HD60 Pro and my 3DS capture card with no support for Linux. Sigh.
@@Ohem1 When it comes to games outside of Steam, I just double click them to run through Wine, and they just work. I'm not talking mere indie titles either. GTAs through Rockstar Games launcher (including GTA 4 which runs impressively well for how potato my PC is). Control from GoG (I don't use the client, just downloaded the files through the website). Windows only emulators, such as Cemu or Project64 (latter for debugging purposes). Such is the life on bleeding edge with the latest version of Wine and DXVK.
It really does suck when your hardware doesn't work though. I have this HyperX keyboard that was meant to be software controlled. Well, it would on Windows, at least. I tried OpenRGB on Linux, but it did not do the job. So I decided to use a Windows VM and spy on the packets it's sending with Wireshark. It only took forever, and eventually I had a little C# thing that could control the keyboard's RGB. So yeah, that was great fun.
Still, I would imagine a printer would just work? A Google also tells me people got the Oculus Quest specifically to avoid using Windows, so...
@@chlorobyte_projects Great job in reverse engineering a device driver! Even if it's "only" the backlight of a keyboard, it's a great skill I wish I had.
@@andreasklindt7144 Ehh, it's more like, I caught the packets as they were sent from Windows then sent the exact same ones on Linux, I have no idea what it means besides the actual RGB data lol
why is this review so light. Why didn'T you ACTUALLY review the operating system by functionality and not only by looks?
You say it looks shiny but is in the way for the enduser. I would have liked an actual review by switching to it for a month and doing things on it you would like to do like:
- streaming
- audio engineering
- recording, cutting (i mean you are a youtuber right?)
- Doing work related office stuff
- gaming/free time activities (watching movies, enjoying audio, reading etc.)
I am a UA-camr myself, and i have found that linux just doesn't really work out of the box for my common tasks and my hardware needs. I like to tinker with hardware and softwware, but mroe with hardware than with software to be honest.
What i like abt windows is, that there ARE still the old menus that actually do work. And that don't get replaced by an OS overhaul that scraps the entire desktop user experience, but just get added upon. This is what is necessary not what is a problem. Because these menus are known to work and any change to them that isn't adding to them but redesigning them, is likely to break things that were there before.
I agree with you about the behaviour of microsoft being terrible and anticomptetitive, but they onyl get away with it, because the opposition just lacks stuff that windows doesn't. For me its a pain to install software on Linux. You Have the software store that you brag about, but it just still doesnÄTcome with the software i need. And oftentimes to install software i need i would have to use the command line and then i would do like 3-4 preliminary steps before i even am able to run the installer of some sort, if there even existed an intaller. On Windows at least for certain there is an installer usually, and it usually just works out of the box. People don'T design isntallers for linux which is a huge issue OF LINUX. If Linux can'tconvince people to make their software work on theior operating system, then this has reasons, which is probably things like the always evolving desktop experience that is redesigning crucial menus that people need to operate their system (see gnome 3 for example...)
Anyways, i didnÄt really want to write an essey, i just ment, that it would be great to actually get a UA-camr-Experience because i would like to know how i could tackle all my problems with audio engineering, cutting and hardware tinkering on Linux.
Thanks in Advance
Cheers!
so, uh, what?
They even didn't care to redesign the clean install GUI. How'd you expect them to clean up the pre-Metro GUI stuff? Furthermore, they're still struggling about remaking Settings panel.
So no, I have no significant expectations for them.
Yeah, I'm sure 99% of people will use the settings app more than the file properties window...
The last time I installed VLC from the Microsoft store it was the Mobile / Touchscreen interface and not VLC proper.
Although I must admit that's been several years. I've learned my lesson to never use it since then 👍
Yeah I don't know how people even trust windows app store.
It is absolutely unacceptable that Windows, something that is paid is so unpolished and messy. Most Linux distros look nicer and more consistent despite being free.
Gnome 42 makes it look like a pet project of some small company with 10 developers instead of a trillion dollar company product.
@@HAWXLEADER FACTS
People still use windows over linux even win 11 so that should tell you something about which os i better and easier to use. Also have you ever met a person that actually bough a win licence apart from 5€ gray market keys?
@@a_1389 they only use it due to software compatibility and it being installed on hardware
@@testacals majority use it for simple things that work on all os's but are easier on windows
I haven't touched MS products since 2001. Life is good.
why?
respect.
@@Jopekos No need apparently
He's a hardcore foss guy.@@Jopekos
You summed it up pretty well:
Windows is a Frankenstein piece of crap made out of pieces from DOS, win 9x era, windows Xp, Windows Vista... and they never bothered modernizing/cleaning up anything!
For a Mutlti THOUSANDS OF BILLLION worth company, this is absolutely scandalous. This laziness and lack of perfectionnism makes me faint everytime.
What are they doing with their time (decades) and employee(thousands) seriously ??? How can this OS still be so... abandoned ?
I do think you're trolling, but Windows has always had the concept of backward support, hence floppy drives still work, once you understand that, then you realise the choices they make.
FYI thousands of billions are called trillions. EVEN WHEN YOU SHOUT
They unified the development of the core components (e.g. Kernel) across desktop, xbox and mobile (before failing spectacularly in the mobile domain).
The ancient bits are the reason why most 20 years old win32 binaries still work.
Loki Games Linux game ports don't have the same luxury.
Why does it matter? Because despite the many defects it makes it a viable platform to develop commercial software for.
@@bufordmaddogtannen Retro compatibility is always used as an excuse for this mess...
It's just because they work dirty since the beginning, it's in their DNA.
Instead of redesigning thing lean and clean, they pile up new trash on top of the old trash and that's it.
You have on one side GNU/Linux that can weigh only 500MB and on the other side Windows that weigh 30GB to do in the end... the same thing.
And retrocompabilty is cool but if it makes users feel like dealing with rotten meat all day long, no thanks.
Make a "Windows no budget to move on edition" with all the old crap included, then release a clean new OS fresh, lean and clean with win32 compat but nothing older.
@@YiChi457 Sadly people who work in non-IT fields for a living need a platform where commercial software exists and runs for more than a couple of OS releases.
Apple was on the right path with the deprecation of 32 bits hardware first and the drop of 32 bits software support later, too bad they bloated the OS at each release and cannot be bothered to release security patches with a consistent and predictable schedule.
Your comment perfectly applies to X11 for the same reasons. It took 10 years to get a fallback mechanism to recover from setting the wrong display resolution on Linux (I was there, I remember the resulting black screens).
If you think Microsoft is slow at changing things, you should look at when the various projects started on Linux land and where they currently are.
Coat of paint is all MS knows at this point. Windows 11 is a coat of paint on windows 10, which is a coat of paint on Windows 7, which is a coat of paint on Windows Vista, which is a coat of paint on Windows XP, which is a coat of paint on Windows 2000...
Which is why it got more and more bloated and collected more and more vulnerabilities on the way. - But I do like Win 11.
@@AlbyTastic I see this so often, people bitch about Windows, but usually end with Windows 11 is fine, and I concur and now with WSL, I get all the software and hardware support using Windows and all of the developer tools on Linux, matched made in heaven currently.
@@greggoog7559 Which is a coat of paint on Windows 98, ... Windows 95, ... Windows 3.1, .... all the way back to MS-DOS - the worst OS ever created (no disrespect to the original developer from whom Billy boy purchased it). When MS-DOS was pimping monochrome, mono-threading terminals, I was using a 32-bit Windowed OS with multi-threading!
pretty much this. all of what we see today on windows 11 was built on top of windows 2000, or overall the NT kernel as a whole. not surprised with what they did with win11, its NT version is still version 10.
I mean, to be fair.. i've yet to meet anyone who uses the microsoft store willingly.
another thing that one must consider is that the majority of users never see beyond the desktop experience. the most complicated process alot of people go through on their pc is connecting to their router and downloading their preferred browser.
Hi
I use the Microsoft store willingly.
A few open source apps on my windows laptop (necessary for school) benefit from Microsoft store auto-updates.
@@Wolficefang You are one of the rare ones.
Tbh the experience out of the box it's just good enough to keep it going if you don't mind outdated GPU drivers, you are just ok with edge and you're not using some weird wifi or Ethernet card from a random country, personally as a tech savvy user the problem it's customizing your windows and debloating everything, which regulars users just won't mind
I also use the store willingly but that was because it reminds me of linux. Before i started using Linux i didn't touch the store. Also UWP apps had some potential, but i think they're dying now unfortunately
I use the store (and winget) too. I really like apps being able to cleanly uninstall, and with winget you can export a list of packages you have installed on one PC to set up another really easily.
After decades of using Windows including Windows 11 since the first dev preview, I have now moved to Linux and the main reason was, funnily enough, the UI experience. I cannot believe that a company of their size and wallet ended up with a product that makes no sense UI wise (to a user that has been with their products since version 3.1). If I had to pick one thing that pushed me over the edge was the File explorer having a black background with smaller fonts and not matching any of the theme choices I made. And of course there are tons of other idiotic things like the task bar's next to 0 customisation options etc.
Gnome/KDE with a few extensions look and feel 10 years ahead of anything MS has delivered so far on the desktop end. The only thing that is missing from Linux is better support for Wayland (NVidia wake up) and desktop wise I will be completely satisfied.
I favor Windows 7 running Classic Shell and with Aero disabled.
UI design and everything else develops with the growing stupidity of humankind. I just updated my Waterfox browser and it has some telemetry active and claims the UI respects the user's screenspace but instead it actually wastes more now and I have to learn interface coding again to try and correct that shit once again.
I cannot keep up with countering this madness. I could rant for hours about the absolutely nonsensical and self-defeating fads everywhere.
Try Files from ms store (not files x or whatever, scroll down a bit)
As of May 2024 Wayland with Nvidia seems to be working Just fine on Ubuntu 24.04
@@ashutoshdongare5370 It took NVidia over 2 years to get this working, it shows how much they care (not) about their customers...
They just moved icon task bar to the center, modified the app search/launcher and made the system even heavier than Win10. This is 'innovation' that nobody in the Linux world cares much. Linux users could have that interface for years with KDE and working fine on years old hardware.
I've been Windows user for my whole life but I must say that windows 11 is the most polished pile of crap ever it's even worse than Windows Vista and I'm not kidding.
It's forcing basically monopoly for MS services on Windows and making people jump through the obstacles that wasn't there ever before and W11 start menu is nowhere near W10 menu.
You can't organize W11 start menu into groups or folders so you have only favorite apps and crappy search that mostly doesn't work.
The telemetry and data collection is worse than in W10 and the HW requirements are abysmal but I see that as positive because at least people with those PC won't be forced to upgrade from decent windows 10 to the crap pile W11.
Linux has negatives because as Linus from LTT said it's using terminal as a excuse not to work on UI or UX and the app support is still not great.
Expect some demanding letters / knocks at the door in a few months. They built a portfolio around you during that session and sold it to advertisers. When you disappear, those advertisers will be demanding the data/sales they promised from you, thus M$ have lost projected earnings and you'll be on the hook for it.
Expect clippy to be camped outside your house, night after night, tapping on your window "You seem to be trying to sleep, would you like some help with that."
Damn, that clippy visit would be a nightmare
Microsoft needing a Microsoft account to even use the pc at all is shady and one reason I don't use Windows anymore.
If you use android it requires an account, if you use Mac or iOS the same , so not really a big deal because it is managed service.
@@emmanuelolowu6768 flip phones require a sim card too registered to a legal name
@@emmanuelolowu6768 Android does NOT requires an account if you don't flash gapps
@@Mike-qs3qq windows don't require an account if you use Rufus to disable the Microsoft account. Which like android will take away from the intended experience
@@emmanuelolowu6768 the intended experience is keyloggers and spyware.
13:04 - Let's talk about this when DAWs (Digital Audio Workstations, for the ones who don't know the acronym) would run without crackling on any Linux distro and doesn't need me to hack Pipewire on them or to figure out how to run Jack.
Windows is still superior in handling any audio production software without struggling and Linux also doesn't have magic tools like the Dolby Atmos app that makes my movie watching and music listening experience so much better. Is it snake oil? Maybe, but I already have a Dolby certified sound card that can take advantage of it. Linux basically just sounds bad and it also confuses sound sources all the time. If I restart my PC, I'm screwed, I have to start from the beginning.
In 2021 I find it a joke that nobody developed any solution for audiophiles and musicians. This is mainly why I can't 100% switch to Linux.
Well, that and the fact that for my photography needs I can't leave Lightroom Classic behind. Darktable is sluggish and doesn't support hardware acceleration to see changes in real time. Not even on Windows. Also, the UI is confusing, you have to set it up on your own, while Lightroom is logical and it's at your service instantly, even if you move to a new PC. Syncing the photo catalog file with OneDrive or MEGA is a breeze of fresh air, it doesn't trash your folders with separate raw edit config files for each picture separately. I know that this is more of a software specific issue, but I would still keep it in the same category since it seems that art on Linux usually is stuck at a very basic level.
Fedora already uses pipewire by default, hope other distros do the same thing
music producer here I just setup realtime and autostart jack and everything works. wine made all of my past music production software work flawlessly and never get audio input issues. I never used lightroom though, that seems really frustrating. just sharing my perspective yours is just as valid, but its not all bad experiences
I don't want to use Jack or configuring things. I want to fire up my DAW and start creating, as easily as it is on Windows or Mac. Jack should be a thing of the past and be forgotten.
BitWig works fine currently, but I still vote for ditching Pulse in favour of Pipewire, which would solve this issue once and for all for every distro.
Also, no, Wine should be out of the equation, since neither Ableton or Presonus work with it. Again, 'install and forget' is my philosophy, not 'struggle until you see 10% results'. Seamless experience or nothing.
@@etnevel.naitzsirk Has anything changed these past few months? I'm curious.
@@MemeHero Nope. Even BitWig sucks ass both with Alsa and PipeWire. I'm back on Windows.
To me its crazy to think a multi billion dollar company cant make their os as good as a free volunteer made one
linux is nowhere near as good right now as windows and thats a fact(i use arch btw) in a good amount of aspects
Bro I find you everywhere
@@distant6606 😂. What planet do you think you're on?
Come back to Earth.
Linux Mint Cinnamon has BEEN and STILL is laughing at the sheer inaccuracies of your comment.
@@-bazoona3654 yes i know
@@ozrencupac do a backflip
Winfanboi: "In Linux ,you have to do everything in terminal."
Also Winfanboi: "In win11 you can easily fix this in terminal."
@keithsze001 When I mention Ubuntu or Linux at work (100% Windows forever), coworkers' eyes glaze over like I was speaking in gibberish or some other language. lol
People are sheep. I've used C64-OS, AmigaOS, MS-DOS, BeOS, SunOS, IBM-OS, Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android OS, various flavours of Linux, probably a couple others that I forgot. No wonder the Winfanbois don't know what they're talking about - can't make comparisons if you've never tried ANYTHING else!
with just installing Linux you are not become a pro user.
@@RobertTempleton64 Users with a mentality like you is why I'll never try Linux, as long as you exist.
@@ratlinggull2223 Sorry that my 40 years of computer experience upset you.
@@ratlinggull2223 so experienced users who are tired of people just ignoring them stop you from using linux?
Thanks for the candid & fresh insights. Seems the perfect operating system has yet to exist.
Running two or three versions of Windows. Each version has 70 GB partitions. Nope also multi-booting all these, along with just 3 versions of Linux. The Linux partitions are about 25 GB.
My 2015 Dell XPS-15 notebook is running a one terabyte SSD, and 4 TB HDD, all on the motherboard of the notebook computer. Have been multivitamins ok , Windows & Linux from about 2012. Can be troublesome. But ok.
All the operating systems share the data and archive files, on the drives, internal and USB plugins. All these shared drives are in Microsoft's NTFS-compressed partitions, accessible by all operating systems.
Not really into operating systems, not computers. My focus is on academic matters, in cognitive sciences, at the biological levels.
Linux does not have the applications yet that are common in Windows and Android. Servant Salamander (file manager, Windows only) had no competitors. GUI data manipulation on Windows is so easy, compared to other operating systems. GUI macros, data backup is also very easy, because of the many application choices available in Windows.
When Linux strips being confined to just 2% of the end users, the application writers might one day migrate to both Android & Linux.
I was a avid Windows fanboy user from the beginning and occasionally run up a free magazine Linux CD to have a laugh at how bad it was compared to my perfect Windows. But gradually over time I began to realize that some Linux operating systems were actually getting as good as my Windows. Then it happened Windows-8 the end of my perfect Windows and the start to find any Linux replacements. So basically today I use various Linux operating systems and so far they are still vastly superior than MS-Windows. "Sorry Billy Gates". The End :-)
Bill Gates left Windows a long time ago. He left and let it go down in the toilet.
I started using Linux when i found out about how much data windows collects and doesn't give a damn about your privacy
But the Linux community was so understanding and good that i never went back to that shitty window
Linux distros are no where near as good as Windows. Needing to use a terminal to install stuff or do basically anything is more time consuming than a simple exe installer and lots of programs simply don't work or are really buggy. Windows and macOS will always be on top due to their ease of use for the average person.
Ridiculous. Linux Mint is as easy if not easier to use than Windows. I've been running it for several weeks and only needed to open a terminal once for a specific app I installed. Everything is handled in the UI. Same for Ubuntu, PopOS, Fedora.
Even as someone who grew up with and most of the time uses Windows:
You went too easy on them.
I agree with the anti-user user account creation system.
However, it is clear that opening cmd and typing “Winget install chrome (or vlc, 7zip, etc)” is 100x easier for normal person that going online and finding installers and manually install.
People are not dumb. We have memorization capabilities. You just tell them to memorize the command “winget install”. That’s it. It’s WAY easier to remember that than trying to remember how to download and use setup files!
That's what I hated about Linux. If I had a problem, all the fixes required me to use the terminal. I just can't remember the commands and at this point, I don't even want to anymore.
@@xeonome1 You are changing the subject. Typing “Winget install Chrome” is literally 3 words in Command Prompt. Typing 3 words and have the app automatically installed and available in your start menu is far, far, easier than: 1) open a web browser; 2) go to bing or Google; 3) search for chrome; 4) Find the right search results, to go to the official site, avoiding ads or 3rd party sites. 5) Finding the “download page” from the official Chrome website; 6) clicking the download button and agreeing to terms; 7) downloading the exe file. 8) opening up file explorer; 9) going to your downloads folder; 10) finding and running setup.exe; 11) accepting UAC; 12) Clicking “Next”, “Next”, “Next”, etc on the setup screen; 13) Agreeing to license agreement; 14) making sure unnecessary sponsored application are not being selected for installation; 15) waiting for progress bar to fill up; 16) Clicking finish to exit setup.
Now, you tell me: which is easier for a casual user?
@@xeonome1 At its core, there are only a couple dozen commands to remember, and they are extraordinarily simple. Cd, ls, cat, echo... these commands are as simple as they get, and any more complex behavior is just made up of simpler commands. If you understand the core commands and what they do, which, frankly, are usually self explanatory (cd to change directory, ls to list, etc), you can go a really long way. If you use complex software like, say, dpkg or apt, these are also self explanatory. Install installs software, remove removes software, purge purges software... it really is user friendly, it just may not appear user friendly because there's no shiny buttons to clicky click on.
There are a couple of problems with winget.
1. Windows has spent decades teaching the average user to use the GUI. The terminal is for nerds.
2. Forcing the user to remember commands is not good for User Experience. "Winget install" is easy to remember, but the average user almost never needs it. Finding files in your browser and double-clicking icons are things the average user does all the time. For the average user, "winget install" feels more complicated.
The better solution is to use the software "store". Under the hood, the store should just run Winget, so it combines the simplicity of Winget with a more intuitive interface for the average user.
…In what magic wonderland do you guys live where you can teach a computer illiterate person even a single command?
Jeez. Just put Fedora Silverblue in your grandma's computer, surely she can't break _that._
Two things I'm thankful in regards to Windows 11. The first is that, for some reason that may have been my error in the setup process, I ended up with a dual-boot system with both Win 10 and Win 11. The second is that I cloned my Windows 10 system to a new M.2 drive, because the dual boot installation scrambled a lot of data on the drive I was updating. I say all this because, though I thought I'd find some of the new features of Win 11 useful, I found there were more changes to the user interface that had changed or eliminated the way I worked with Windows on a day-to-day basis. It was the accumulation of small changes here and there that overwhelmed the few positive changes that were made. I gave it most of a day, booted back to Windows 10, and have not gone back. In fact, I'm seriously thinking of pulling the boot drive and installing the cloned drive and completely pulling the plug on Windows 11. Oh, did I mention that for some reason, the Win 11 installation process also formatted my D: drive, which was a separate physical HDD on which I stored all my data from different programs? The one drive that for some serious, irresponsible oversight, I had not backed up with a clone? After the Win 11 installation I tried to access a data file and found everything had disappeared. Poof! At that point I shut the computer down and disconnected power and data to it to prevent overwriting. Since then I've been able to recover a genealogy file that contained 30 years of research, Quicken data, and am in the process of recovering as much as possible (and then back it up to a remote location).
That's why I always disconnect or take out all supplementary hdd's, what does my head in is the bootloader being put on the second had!
As a (mainly) Windows user I was waiting for your review!
I work in IT and have been using Windows since I was a kid with 3.1, DOS and so on and, despite some minor things, I fully agree with your review. Windows 11 is indeed beatuiful to look at, the new design feels fresh while also making you feel at home, there's some new things under that hood and so on...
...BUT all the preinstalled dumb social apps, the menus from Windows 7/Vista, the right click menu being dumbed down, the constant forcing of Edge and many more things are the reason why I'm moving to MacOS with a MacBook Air for the software I absolutely need for work after many years, while keeping PopOS on my personal PCs where I don't need the Affinity suite and stuff like that.
Microsoft did a step in the right direction, but some of these things you(and I) mentioned are a joke at this point. I mean, why the heck should I still see the same Windows 7 partitioning menu when I'm installing a new computer? Sure it gets the job done but it came out in 2009...time to update all these "minor" things that, added together, ruin the experience and cohesiveness.
Tbf i would be concerned if they didn't update the partition tool if it was broken or lacks of some good feature, why fix something that's not broken
@@gonzalolog I'm not speaking about the tool itself but it's UI: it still has the components of Windows 7, same with the operating system itself. It's like if you opened the MacOS Finder now with its new design, then right-clicked a file and saw the Snow Leopard menus fonts and such pop up...I mean why?
@@agoniavr ngl ill complain if they changed the ui of that working tool, its about familiarity. i dont wanna re-learn that old shit working tool.
@@jamesm820 well there's no need for them to change it entirely, they could just keep it exactly the same while using the design language of the current Windows 11 OS which would make sense.
Nick watches one LTT video and decides that his sponsor segues have to follow Linus' style.
They've been this way for a while now ;)
@@TheLinuxEXP um ....i dont know...
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Nope.
Even for sponsored video, he often criticize the product, pointing the flaws and target demographic.
Also, Anthony from LTT is Linux enthusiast and he made a lot of good Linux and open-source related content.
If you're refering to new Linux Challenge videos, Linus part was made in perspective of average user. The one that probably never know that command line is exist.
A few critiques as a Windows user.
- My Surface Pro 2, unsupported, took less than 3 hours to install, including download, including the workaround, with little stutter or issue that you had mentioned. So blame the VM, perhaps, not Windows
- Getting .exe from the web isn't totally safe, agreed, but you do realise even Linux archives can be hacked? And for apt-get, you need some Linux know-how and are relying on some stranger posting the right command to execute. Just as unsecure as a possibility of hack.
- People do whine about privacy, but no offense, having to get a new distro every 2 years because the company managing the current "good" distro has sunk into losses isn't anything good. And the ads facilitate that, a highly subsidized OS that isn't going away.
Only the forcing of MS Edge is the real Ballmer era stuff, IMO, for f**k sake man, they don't even cut off all features and capabilities without a Product Key, and are officially listing bypasses for their own requirement of TPM.
As I said, yes I am a Windows fan and you're a Linux fan, but empty accusations and hating them just for ads is really stupid IMO, this isn't a case of them holding your actual images and recordings hostage under "pRiVacY", no offense. They just check browsing history for some ads.
I feel about windows 11 exactly the same.
I bought a new hp envy and upgraded to windows 11.
Windows 11 is ideed just one layer deep paintshop.
So after seriously tested it for one day i installed Ubuntu and found out that Ubuntu runs way better on my envy.
It's less hot, no more fan running and more battery time than on windows.
I officially don't like windows at all.
Pretty much my own experience with Vista, and why I moved to Linux Mint at the time, except my notebook was an Acer.
I haven't even touched Windows 11, but I found that Pop OS runs way better on my HP laptop than Windows did. It doesn't wake up from sleep and overheat at random anymore. I was also pleasantly surprised to see that the HP Pen with pressure sensitivity and eraser, touchscreen, and keyboard disabling itself when folded 360 degrees (this is done by a driver which sometimes didn't trigger on Windows, not by the laptop itself) were all fully functional.
Windows also was giving me a problem where the microphone would sometimes stop working after I woke it up from sleep, and it wouldn't work until I restarted the laptop, and often there was no Restart option, just an Update and Restart option, which isn't ideal when I had meetings starting in a few minutes... No problems with mic in Pop OS
@metro2002 that was the same for me, i use linux also 20 years or so. But on this new laptop it runs really longer on the battery about 1 too 1.5 hours.
I think it has to do with the fan, on windows it's spinning a lot when browsing etc. On Linux it's stays cooler so the fan isn't running at all. That saves battery.
@metro2002 Using Powertop, TLP etc I've always been able to get within 10 to 20 percent of the rated Windows spec. That's running Mint on Acer's, and HP's. Given how optimistic those Windows specs tend to be, it might actually be somewhat less.
Made the switch back to Windows 11 recently. I thought I would have gotten tired of it quickly but that didn't happen. I was surprised at how simple a lot of things were, especially when you contrast it to what is parrotted in the Linux community. Setting up my web developer environment was actually easier on Windows. A lot "just works" and I appreciate that. I definitely run into much fewer problems on Windows. I think that is one major reason I haven't gone back to Linux.
I think if Linux users apply the same level of criticism to Linux as much as they do to Windows then they'd be more humble about their claims that Linux is "better". If the compositor for Windows crashed as much as X or Wayland, or if audio handlers in Windows were as fickle as Pulse Audio or Pipewire, Windows be crucified.
It's easy to be a Linux user and make claims about how much better it is when a certain level of hypocrisy is involved. I suppose that's the case with most things in life.
I think you over-estimate most user cases. How many are actually web developers? Over 90% of PC users are simply web browsing, emailing or using word processing software. In most popular Linux distro's you will find Firefox or Chromium an Email client and Libre Office Suite. That covers most people and is very stable, well established programs. Not to say Linux and the community doesn't have it's problems, but i can assure you there are plenty who do report the issues or else how would we know of its problems?
welp, most Windows users don't criticize the issues of that OS, and they ask Linux to have things that not even Windows has, an example was what happened with Pop_OS!, although it was a rather unfortunate event and System76 is clearly the culprit, Windows isn't exempt from having similar troubles, because it also uses the traditional software installation model based on basic admin permissions, and similar things are still open to happen, like get a kernel-level anti-cheat that breaks the OS, when that happens they blame the developer of the anti-cheat (because he obviously has it) or that exact anti-cheat or DRM become broken with new hardware like the new Alder Lake CPUs (some even blame Intel for this, which is completely ridiculous) , but you'll never see anyone blame Windows for having an archaic wizards-based installation method, that under the logic of those who criticize the entire Linux desktop thanks to Pop_OS, will be a totally valid complaint.
Wayland and X stability depends on many factors, generally the GPU driver, if it's NVIDIA, it's their responsibility to solve it, NVIDIA is heavily criticized in the Linux community due to the proprietary nature of its drivers, and they do not follow the graphic stack standards (Mesa, GBM) they have also refused to give Wayland full support, until now. almost all of the hardware we use is proprietary, so we are highly dependent on the will of manufacturers for driver support.
I believe that Linux users are trying to convince themselves that they are happier and more "free", I tried to for many years but I got tired of always having to look for work-arounds for the most basic programs. got tired of entering codes in a terminal for basic things to work properly. it just got tiring.. at least windows works... no more running virtual boxes, no more trying to make games work with the likes of WINE, no more entering in codes just to play a simple game or to download stuff, it becomes a hassle. also Microsoft's Doc's are way better than anything Linux has to offer- it was just another hassle I didn't want anymore. Linux users are trying their hardest to convince themselves that its better but its not, its CRAP at its finest.
So glad and rewarding that I switched away from Windows to Linux ,pulled my hair out in the past 6months but so loving this Linux thing and finally in my 48th year of life I'm actually learning to use a computer!! Thank You Linux and see ya Windows ,wouldn't wanna be ya!!!! Banging Content Nick!!!! Fan Boy or Linux Guru??? Asking for a friend?
6:08 That's one thing I really hate about Windows 11, that they put shortcuts in your start menu that when you click installs apps without asking you.
4:13 How comes that window snapping transition isn't smooth? I thought that was the case, given their advertising and ""attention to detail""
he said the exact opposite
6:33 you call it ugly, the xp user calls it functional (and there's not almost a whole second of delay before it opens on xp)
As Linux and Windows user, I use Windows for professional tools needed for my work. Even if I find the Linux equivalent for myself my customers won't and at the end everyone from my team to every customer has Windows.
Secondly,. I could care less for look and feel in professional environment. Menu looks and shades etc are irrelevant compared to solid functionality and dependability. And Windows is a very dependable OS.
I've always had to use Windows at work and since I'm currently laid off, ;-( I'm using W11 just to keep current on what I'll probably use at my next job. Once you get it set up it looks and feels OK if like me you use MS Services. I did get one neat little fix: Volume is finally loud enough when watching YT. W10 was quieter than Linux on the same machine. It's still very Windows-y though and my battery life isn't as good as running a light version of Linux like Xubuntu, or even W10. IMO it's really not that different from W10. If I had to run Windows and had a PC that couldn't upgrade to 11 I personally wouldn't worry and just run W10 until it's no longer supported.
I'm sticking with Windows 10 for the time being. Unless they make a Windows 12 that is hopefully an improvement, or I see a Linux OS that's right for my needs, the only other way I'll stop using Windows 10 is when it stops being supported by 2025. By then I'll have no choice but to switch anyway.
Yeah same. I like Win10, except for its privacy stuff. I’ve installed pop OS, but except for privacy it’s no improvement whatsoever. Even my keyboard settings have changed multiple times for no apparent reason. I won’t get Win11 anytime soon. I’ll switch if I must in 2025, but I hope by then I’ve found a good linux distro that does everything I want from windows.
@@DanDanDoe I'm hoping to find a Linux distro that doesn't require too much coding, has proper access to my files and directories, allows me to access downloads via Firefox or some other Linux browser and is decent at running games. On my mini PC, I am using Batocera, which is specially designed for emulation and has already come a fair way over the past few years since its launch.
There is nothing really wrong with W11. For me it is faster. Would say the same for most people. It really went the way of just getting out of the way. Which is a plus.
@@christopherfortney2544 Well, I'll probably be forced to upgrade to Windows 11 anyway once I purchase a new laptop, just as soon as I can afford one that is. My current one is two years old at this point, and has been pretty serviceable compared to some of my past laptops. The only times I've had major problems was getting software to work, and that was mainly down to broken HID USB drivers. With that said, I'll have to consider both the price and if it will be an improvement compared to my current one overall, as I can't afford to jump the gun and buy one willy nilly. Another important factor is how I can sustain massive storage for all my files and have enough USB drives to condensate. Unfortunately, it's not easy when you live in an area where options are rather limited.
Same.
Hi, I'm a Windows fanboy. Haven't used Linux since 2004 - but I'm really considering switching in the future. I loved Win7, 8 and 10, but I'm not switching to 11... at least yet. Not only because my hardware doesn't support it but I also don't like most of the changes. I use the taskbar at the top, for example. Hopefully my next OS will be Linux, but lets see.
I hate they hide control panel and replaced with annoying Setting app.
Well, I "up-sized" from Xp to Linux Mint & never looked back.
You might want to device a plan:
1) try some LiveCD/DVD/USB bootable distro to see which would detect your devices out of the box.
2) install short-listed distro into VMs like Virtualbox and see if you are able to use it as a daily driver.
* ... just rmb that installing Linux directly onto h/w is likely much faster in performance than those 2 methods above. *
3) Just make sure you make proper backups b4 migration or dual/multi-boot. I did multi-boot just to learn & experience it. Some might opt to skip though.
4) Backup & Migrate.
Now I keep a windows VM just for those once in a blue moon need.
VM Snapshots make it really easy to undo windows corruptions & make an otherwise unstable OS more tolerable.
Just my 2 cents for whosoever might need this.
HTH.
About not carrying over Dark Mode on some menus, M$ is notorious for using subcontractors for writing their virgin code. As a result, they have no clue what's inside some of their boxes. As a result of THAT, they have no ability to rewrite or modify these elements of the OS.
They're also corporate-captialist cheapasses who will not invest more than what is needed for generating the big money. Their coding is notoriously crappy.
@@Dowlphin malloc(100000)
!? The 'Installer' for windows isn't just setting up a user account. not sure where you got that from.
Secondly, if I just spent say .. 1300$USD+ on a surface device... why the fucking hell would I not want location services to track it? (Like Seriously, it's the same kind of moronic thought process that would get a 1300-1500+ Samsung Note/S Phone (or even Apple device), and then turn off location tracking ....)
Secondly, This is a problem with linux users & THEY NEED a mental checkup if you think the following.
- You have to revamp Every under the hood feature/function, even when it just works & isn't meant to be stared at.
Sorry ... just no, While the deep menus & system functionality access like 'device manager' are basicaly the 'same' when it comes too the how & power, doesn't mean what you think it does.
-It's worked & they got it right from the first steps. They don't need to add more bells and whistles to what amounts to 'click device, right click uninstall/update/properties(pause)' They don't need to actively confuse & change up icons for core functionality that was nailed perfectly.
== Would it be nice if it color flipped into the dark mode.. sure, but let's not pretend that's a high priority either... I'd rather they work on Under the hood nonsense, the internal engine bits & bots... finish Working feature sets (WSA - WIndows subsystem for Android, for one) and polish them before they configure every god damn'd sub menu & power user/admin use only menu in all the colors of the rainbow.
Seriously... They've been attempting since the launch of 8.x to replace the damn'd control pannel.. and that's been the dumbest shit ever... It's now gotten to a point where w11 (while I love it myself) has barely gotten to any sense of competence when it comes to the control panel stand in, and even that... I still need the control panel to access certain aspects & remove even some dumb ass programs that seem to be ... just badly done .. (every OS get those sadly)
Also, can we fuck off with the whole 'universal Appstore' nonsense? OMFG ... can you actually imagine a singular storefront for windows that contained even 75% of 'popular' apps? LEt me add my install of Davinci Resolve (14, because the newer ones hate my physical stick), ontop of The Blackmagic drivers, their capture/display software... Ontopo of Every version of sound & Bluetooth software for the insane mirade of HW out there. Then .. include.. itunes, Steam, gog galaxy, uplay, origin, and ... functional & updated web portal apps to places like siriusXM, & cable service providers like Xfinity for in home streaming, along with bank app portals.. OH, and SOme how authenticate what amounts to 20+ years of software that still works on windows... with a simple click, oh and all of that do so in the manditory Secure & flexible way to install to multiple locations so it can be choosen where to install, and also not invalidate HDCP protections as well.
Jesus... while WIndows AppStore has greatly improved... We still install shit directly & use launchers like steam, gog galaxy, origin, Uplay, adobe creative cloud, etc. so we can install where WE WANT, without having to consider security & needed measures for programs that aren't even related to what is being installed, played, or used.
Yes, because how fucking dare someone want to keep a version of a software >..> It's almost as if the chronic need to update ..everything all the time leads to people making dumb ass choices, and end up makind poor security choices.
Also, win-get... is a god damn'd annoyance .. Like if the program has a self updater... the damn'd thing just borks itself into stupidity.. and it becomes useless with other managers that also have update commands (like steam, where you can literally force it to check for a games updates via command line)
also.. Get the f over yourself... 'same kernel' my ass.. you mean like the linux kernel that's reintroduced the same user privilege elevation a minimal of 5-7 times?
Not every 'update' has to doll up what doesn't need to be changed.
Windows 10 was great, the design was pretty much the same everywhere. Windows 11 tries to go for this big design language change but only applies it to the very surface layer of the OS, which just makes it feel like Windows 10 with a custom skin or something.
Even windows 10's design language wasn't consistent, some apps like settings and the microsoft app store used a revamped GUI while others like the control panel or device manager used old GUIs from past versions. Windows 11 just seems to add one more design layer on top of windows 10's already inconsistent design languages.
The fact that it FORCES you to have Microsoft account before logging in and not allowing you to create offline local account was the line in the sand for me.
Microsoft seems to think that I am renting my hardware from them or something.
You can actually create local account without disconnecting your internet. The thing is you can only do that if you are installing non-home version. 🤔
Firstly, I do not like windows 11. But you can have a login without Microsoft account, i only have a local account on 2 windows11 installations! One of my windows 11 installations is on unraid(vm) and I just installed it, no reg editing needed... So it is not required it seems to happens sometimes. Otherwise great video, keep it up :)
Love the intro!
Thanks 😄
You can create a local account even with internet access. You do not need to use a Microsoft account. You got this wrong. Microsoft simply "guides" you to create a Microsoft account and hides the local account option by making it unintuitive (unless you already expected them to do as much.)
it only took me about 5 seconds into the video to hit that like button. The (almost) required Microsoft account is the nail in the coffin for me. Microsoft has almost screwed me over multiple times on its account integrations into Windows (but then again, im not most users). From a freedom and open source standpoint, the windows store DRM is something we should not be okay with. Ill take the old way of managing applications any day.
Win32 part is the only thing Windows really needs, all that Microsoft adds on top of it starting Windows 8 is just unnecessary bells and whistles and straight-up bloatware. As a hardcore Windows fan, I'm actually thankful that those old parts are still there
They need to choose one or the other, though
@@TheLinuxEXP it has been six years. Give Microsoft some slack. 😁
It took ten years for Linux DE to implement a mechanism to fall back to the last working display resolution setting when the user made an error...
I admit Windows 11 is really cool, but I'm already in love with elementary OS 6.
6:50 "It's kind of messy" ... and Neymar shows up xD
It's amazing how the Linux view complaints are SO difrent from the Windows view complaints. Most amusing are the parts that you like what the windows users dislike (and vice-versa)...total 180. Thumbs up.
"Privacy Excluded" is the new Microsoft motto. Or maybe just "Options and Choice Excluded".
Loved the honest/straightforward review nick!
4:56 Older versions of Windows used to be way more customizable. They are taking away more and more ability to customize Windows from us.
Windows 11 looks and works like shit.
Hard pass.
Thanks for that... you looked at it so I dont have to..
Windows 11 still uses Regedit ? Are you kidding me ? I just can't believe it ! LOL 😂
Summary: "Just take it as an operating system, in itself, it is truly an inferior product to most Linux distributions"
1000% true.
I moved 100% over to Linux (no dual-boot) BECAUSE of Windows 11 lmao
It's interesting how you think Windows is still the old Windows below the surface when you only have to dig half an inch to reveal that Linux is still a CLI with a shallow coat of paint applied🤔
The same can be said for Windows. If memory serves you can go to Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Command Prompt and interact with it the same way we did on DOS. Or I still do in DOSBox when I want to play an old game.
I have used Windows since 3.1, I have used Linux distros, I have used OS9 and OSX, and I have never been able to do everything I need on OS9 and OSX without installing either a Windows partition or a VM, same with any distro of Linux I have tried, for me Windows just works better for what I need and what I do, I think each OS has its advantages, as for myself I do prefer Windows, I do not understand the BSOD's that people get I have used every version of Windows from 3.1 on to Windows 11 (except for NT, ME and 2000 as well as server editions) and I have maybe had 6 crashes ever, meanwhile I have tried Mint, Ubuntu, Arch, Debian, etc. and have run into multiple crashes, incompatibility errors, and other bugs, the most issues I have ever had with a computer is with a macbook I had a few years ago, but for the way I have used computers. and software personally, Windows offers me all the best options, the right amount of customizations, the backwards compatibility, drivers, etc than any other choice, and I do do registry tweaks, have my file extensions shown edit dll's and other system level tweaks, use powershell and CMD and power user things. I value open source hardware and software, having said that my daily driver is a Windows 10 machine (getting new rig that will be Windows 11 in a few months) because even though it is proprietary, and cost money the opportunity cost of finding a linux workaround etc is just not worth it. I respect the fact you prefer Linux, and I wish that Linux people could understand why and respect the fact that Windows can and does work better for some people and applications. Can't we all just admit nothing is perfect and that certain OS's work better for some and others work better for others
"You should have to fight your computer to do what you want to do on it" (owtte) is one of the incredibly powerful factors as to why I am adopting Linux.
Win 11 is the reason that I finally moved away from microsoft and beside the gaming experience I don't miss anything.
I wish nvidia and other big device manufacturers would treat linux as a first class citizen and create drivers for it (and not the horrendous ones like for nvidia gpus). That would just make linux so much more accessible to people.
Hope steam deck would be a giant success and would push more gamers to try linux on their desktop PCs.
As a life long windows user, I agree with literally everything here. Especially with the cosmetics, but as long as my issues remain with the look and feel of a few apps I very rarely use, I’ll still stick to windows.
I won’t and never have said that Linux is inferior, there’s a reason it still exists and that it’s getting more and more popular. Until someone streamlines how to use Linux to where I never have to use the terminal and can properly game without workarounds. That’s the day I’ll happily switch to Linux.
Wine and lutris...especially lutris for those games that don't run on Steam or natively
I stopped using Windows just before the release of Windows 7... It seems I didn't miss anything :)
Except hardware and software support, but whatever.
@@devilmanscott I have no issue with my hardware. I choose it accordingly, as well as my software 😌
I never felt limited in any ways by my OS.
@@stephanepiquemal8297 You just admitted to being limited, by saying you choose carefully, which means you are limited by definition. Windows rarely suffers from such, if it plugs into a computer Windows probably supports it, no joke Windows still supports floppy drives.
I use Linux, so don't think this is some kind of os fan thing. Linux is only good with servers which is my main use case, but once I'm done I boot up Windows and if I need to develop something on Linux I use WSL.
I am pragmatist in software choices, Windows covers 95% of my use cases and Linux the other 5%.
@@devilmanscott Choosing the best hardware for your system is not being limited as long as it does all I want it to do. There are plenty of junk hardware on windows as well that you better not buy.
I haven't used Windows in any meaningful way since 2011, and between 2005 - 2009 I used Ubuntu more than Windows. Between 1992 & 2000 I was exclusively a Mac guy.
I like Unix, be it a BSD, Mac, or Linux. I want my Unix.
voice of Linuxman
I see windows as I see Linux, as I see mac Os. A way to do the thing you want it to do. There are differences in how things are done, sure; however; at the end of the day, they are all very good operating systems.
Never ever microshit on my computer.
7:50 Ubuntu up to 17.10 I think had integrated pidgin messanger
This was a very objective and UNbiased review
Thanks for the video! As we all know... Win-blows... Linux-Rocks!
Great video! But how much easier than going to the windows settings and choosing from the list do you want choosing the default browser to be? You can even go to the browser settings and click "make default" and it will auto-open windows setting and let you choose from the list. Also, in my opinion, package manager is only good(though extremely convenient) for installing packages and libraries for programming or internal utilities because you usually don't need/have to have an idea on how they work. But when it comes to medium-big applications, I always go to the main website anyways before installing, because it immediately gives me full and structured information about the latest releases and changes, and a lot of times I actually end up installing non-latest versions because of potential comparability issues or radical design changes, which would be impossible or finicky within OS store or package manager. After all, you will install the app once or twice in several years, so giving yourself an update on what's new is fairly important. Plus, unless, you use search engines that have no website verification system, you will never end up on a fake/malicious website within the first result page.
Cortana and other features open in Edge regardless of default browser setting
To be completely honest, as a person who has some experience at linux(I've used ubuntu for about 6 months,kubuntu for a month) and for everyday use i prefer windows, I can see that I agree a lot with your opinion, but I love those "retro" system apps. For example control panel, task manager, device manager . Imo they're just beatufiull in their orginal look. Remember it's only my opinion! You can disagree with it
One more thing to add. I think the only reason Windows is “better”… is because of game developers. If every game developer started targeting Linux, or even MacOS, i think Windows’ dominance wouldn’t be as strong.
Lol,how about cad and other productivity?
The Linux Experiment made a video explaining that it is not even really possible to just "target" linux as a platform.
Generally your average user isn’t going to go into the older properties windows you dug down into. Users using those parts will also know about the command line. You can’t have it both ways! Also its not G-Nome - it’s Nome - the G is silent.
You can set up a dual boot with Win 10 and Linux - piece of cake and no Gparted used
also isn't it better to dual boot if you have 2 different bootable drives just to get away from NTFS file system of windows which requires defragmentation for hard disks unlike linux's ext4 i think its called.
@jon jon Brasileiro whats a bios dual boot ?
@@Gurj101 you install windows and Linux on two separate drives (even separate EFI partitions if you want to make them both bootable on their own) and you choose which one to boot with the bios boot menu (typically F11 depends on you motherboard). This way if one os breaks the other still works
@@Gurj101 It's when you select your OS in BIOS instead of in the bootloader.
@jon jon Brasileiro it depends on which OS world occupied that same.phyaical drive as to how accurate your statement is...no insult meant
I wasn't the only one who slowed down the opening crawl and saw the Lorem ipsum and the joke. Right? I mean, that alone is better than Win11. :)
What i love about Windows: I don't spend all my time troubleshooting some random issue. I can actually do work.
Will try Linux again next year, hopefully by then my hardware issues will no longer be an issue. :(
Same here, except that it's why I use Linux and not Windows, because Windows prevents me from getting things done :)
Zorin OS. POP_OS.
*Linux Mint chuckles at your ignorance or it (it being that you've obviously never tried Linux Mint Cinnamon)...*
@@TheLinuxEXP How? 🤔 if Windows has a pro is that everything just works, like that's the biggest thing it has, and honestly it's undeniable, I had way more instances of Linux preventing me from getting things done than Windows, and I've used both since 2007.
@@randgrithr7387 Tried them, my machine either won't sleep or would not recover from sleep.
A big push for why Microsoft even made Windows 11 is that since lockdowns chromebooks have seen a surge of use and took up a bit more marketshare, so maybe 1-3 generations will be growing up with chromebooks via the aid of schools. Hence why Microsoft "needed" a big new splash of paint. All of the things in Windows 11 could of been done on Windows 10 but that would of been less exciting.
It seems that it’s had the opposite effect. Microsoft’s hefty system requirements have made my school unsure what to do following Windows 10 EOL. I’ve emailed some of my teachers informing them about Linux Mint, which may be futile, but the idea of using Chrome OS Flex for the latter half of my high school years was too insane for me to do nothing.
as a Windows user, I HATE Windows 11. but to call it inferior to Linux just because it has that "old ugly windows" hidden behind the superficial modern layer is stupid, to say the least. in fact, I think MS OSes from the period of 95 to XP were so superior that MS themselves don't know how to get rid of them without angering the userbase, heck I don't think they can outdo them without sacrificing performance.
and installing EXEs from the internet is much more time-efficient than looking for the name for a package you want to install from the package manager and end-up needing to install tens of dependencies. the only drawback for EXEs is that there's no central way to track and manage their updates, something that the new store will hopefully solve with enough time.
Huh time effecient in what way?
There's only one thing that takes time in cli
pacman -S firefox
Oh shiz forgot sudo
sudo !!
You are acting like you know exact url of every program on planet whereby you can reach download page instantly.
It's not just "one ugly window". It's the whole core of the OS which is still old and insecure. It's the lack of consistency. It's the barren store, the extremely inefficient install method, the viruses, the bad design, the anti user practices. .
It's just a terrible OS.
@@herbertwestiron first, you're assuming I'm using pacman which I don't.
Second, this cli is more efficient argument has been around forever way before pacman became a thing.
Third, sure if you are fast at typing then writing might faster by some milliseconds than using GUI. But in reality even in CLI you have to visit websites to get repositories and such.
The only time saving is in when updating as I have said. But that's just the nature of any package manager/app manager/app store and not the CLI. And hopefully with the new windows store this will be solved *fingers crossed*
@@TheLinuxEXP I understand your need for a coherent design, and you come from a Mac OS background I think so I don't blame you. But as someone who grew up on Windows it doesn't itch as much as it does to you. It's only annoying when you can't find some setting and it's hidden inside the legacy control panel, as I have read this has been improved with Windows 11.
@@mdhxx Irrelevant. You might have pacman, apt or yum. All the same. I am not assuming since I was talking about myself.
Second. No you don't. Cli has search. You are still typing on your search engine lmao. Your argument doesn't even make sense
Windows Find name of app -> Search on search engine > confirm that site you are using is legit > go to download page > press download > then install by pressing next.
Linux > find name of application > search for application using your package manager > install the application.
You are still typing on windows but you are also clicking.
In case you know name of the application
On windows follow same steps as above
On linux just packagemanager install packagename.
You only visit repos if you are adding extra software. At that point it's as same as windows but maintaining it is way faster. You can also just use binaries that many softwares offer just like windows. Just like you can use choclatey on windows. If package managers were worse that gui then chocolatey wouldn't be getting used now would it?
From what I understand from a developers perspective, they're still using the version of control panel from windows 7, and in order to have dark mode on that, they'd have to rewrite it. Now why they don't is beyond me. Literally, I could write a python script that changes the api calls and fix it right now if I wanted to. It's just one of those things that I don't want to do cause of microsoft.
11:56 "Insecure kernel and system"
Really... this is such an obnoxious sentence. There may even be merit to it, but given that I strongly believe that such a small percentage of the global population can make claims like that while backing it with knowledge; is it really necessary? 🤦🏻♂️
Well, it's one of the main problems of Windows. Whether by design or because it's the main target but it IS insecure.
Let me put it this way: if a safe passes its tests with good scores but then users leave it open at home, would it be fair to claim that the safe is not secure? In my eyes, that'd be spreading misinformation. I hope you agree.
Linux isn't bad, but it sometimes is more tedious than necessary. Yesterday I wanted to use a USB modem on my ubuntu based machine. It worked in the past (several years ago) right out of the box, but now I had to install usb-modeswitch. I tried to get it working for like 2 hours, but finally gave up. I used the same Stick on Windows, installed the driver and it told me that my SIM card was not supported. That took like 5 minutes to find out on Windows but I could not tell on Linux.
TLDR: Windows is bad, but Linux has no say in what _user friendly_ is, because they also fail big time in some scenarios.
I would say that Windows is really user friendly.
But it is plagued by user privacy issues, data collection and facilitates the installation of viruses by not have a decent enough store options.
@@rasmachris94 Would you consider a huge lack of user combustibility a good or a bad thing?
@@KuruGDI I assume you mean customisability, and i'd say it depends on the perspective - good for beginners because it limits the amount of options and prevents overwhelming them.
But obviously for power users being able to customise EVERYTHING is the best. User freedom i generally accept over limitation. So all they'd need to do is have a setting that says "I know what I'm doing" and let people customise it to their hearts content to really hit both markets.
Okay, counter points; a lot of this is simply because you're not use to the OS. When I first started using Linux I hated it, diving into the console, showhow managing to do some kind of Sudo command, so on. In the same way a Windows user is use to looking for a installer file. Most folk don't even use the Microsoft store. Someone moving to linux for the first time as well won't be able to figure out how to uninstall firefox or any preinstalled bloatware a distro might think you'll need.
Windows ain't perfect, but calling Linux vastly superior is kinda untrue. If windows was a Linux Distro it'd be easily be seen by you as one of the greats, 100%. Maybe not Windows 11, but given time too mature it'll feel great.
I daily drive Windows and I've used Linux in the past....
I have to say that Windows is superior to Linux in gaming and in productivity software (Microsoft Office 365 and the Adobe Suite comes to mind).
@Linden Reaper But steam deck is a handheld console, not a PC.
@Linden Reaper So you can type documents on it or run a printer with it?
... Unpopular opinion BUT.. I'll share my sad truth. I was forced to use a Windows as a work OS by my employer after 15+ years of freedom from BSOD, Windows Defender, Windows Update and all that crap. I just used Linux and MacOS. And I was happy and considered windows an horrible product. Aaaand... I have to admit that I found it usable and very productive in daily usage. Of course my enterprise version of windows 10 is super locked (I can't even change my desktop background) but it works. Of course everything you said about MS data collection and user hostility is still valid, and I wouldn't trade my Manjaro powered PC and my M1 mac mini for a windows box. But people often see everything black and white. And recent versions of windows are actually more usable than the ones I remembered from the windows xp era.
"Clean" and "super simple" are not positives. Neither is the gradients, rounded corners, etc. all over the place. Windows 2000 has a much better UI than Windows 11.
As a person who uses both windows and linux (fedora 37, last few months as daily driver), here is my opinion..
Linux is for nerds, servers and developers for work PC (10% of the population).
Windows is for people who want to have it all (from multimedia, gaming... to do professional work in all professions)
MacOS is for people who want power of unix, fun from multimedia, do some professional work in most of professions, have the nice consisten well polished GUI, who like to give away money to evil corp. Or want to have M1/2 chips on their hand becuase it's honestly amazing (while my dell xps 15 oled i7 lasts 3 hours on battery, getting all fans cranked up, chassy being able to coock eggs, the stupid M1 macbook air can outperform the i7 cpu while being cold, silent, lasting 16 hours and costing 1000€ less)
why windows is superior to linux:
- you can install msi, exe,... files. but can you install debian package on a rpm machine or vice versa? Adding software repos from terminal to install a certain app that's not available? how's that different from downloading an exe from official website... or compiling from source because the author made it only for debian and wished good luck to non debian users.
- updates don't break the system (nvidia driver, dkms, kernel update,... rings a bell when you boot into tty and you need to google on your phone how to fix that shit)
- hidpi support + fractional scaling without performance loss, (I guess it's ok on KDE but god help me how terrible it's on gnome)
- hdr, dolby, dts,...
- while windows default media player can handle 4K smoothly, when I open 4k video on totem or other default video player it just stops responding.
- SCREEEN SHOT TOOOL! by default on linux you can create a screenshot (fullscreen / area) but non of them allows you to type/draw on them! you need the only one app that exists for it and it's flameshot, which does not work on gnome wayland and somehow works on kde wayland.
- wide range of commercial apps that are available on mac and windows but not on linux and they don't work with wine
- hassle-free video proprietary video driver install, basically last few years I did not need to install any GPU driver, it was there by default working at 110% performance.
- better sound mixer by default
- windowing server and window manager... x11 and wayland just sucks! one is slow and old the second does not really play well with some gpu drivers and apps, does not support nigh mode, etc...
- on windows you might be limited to the default style, but it's still better than all the inconsistencies between gtk2, gtk3, gtk4 (libadwaida) which is not really backward compatible , qt,... theme developers and app developers are slow to adopt new stuff, finger print readers on notebooks...
- windows exploder, sorry explorer. nautilus you cannot enter path manually unless you press ctrl+l which does not work everywhere, sure you can install for example dolphin but that just another app that looks different because it's from different desktop environment. Windows/file explorer just have more options.
- You can set for your user where on disk your "documents/videos/...." will be, for example, on windows I set my downloads/pictures/movies folder to another disk (which on linux by default requires root priviledges to mount!! WTF!?) and set documents to be on onedrive & synced. So when I reinstall windows I dont need to create backup of my users directory because everything is a) symlinked b) in the cloud
- on linux you cannot drag & drop from any archive manager to a location to extract something to desired location and on gnome by default it extracts the whole file content to the relative directory of the archive (why cant I just open and browse it?)
- on linux file managers crashed multiple times while copying large number of files, and few times using cut and paste resulting data loss.
- gaming! proton and wine are not perfect and not everything works
- better battery life (tpl just limits stuff that does not even need to be limited)
- better memory management (god knows how many times I needed hard restart in 2022 because my ram was full,... other times systemd just shut down the most important app I used to free up memory)
- no need to play with driver specific configs to eliminate audio lag, screen tearing (for desktop apps like nautilus when dragging around),...
- no performance issues with 4k video playback on youtube,... even when HW acceleration is enabled and supported by browser and GPU/iGPU/cpu the performance hit is higher than on windows
- default browser (chromium based Edge) is just much faster and packs more features than firefox which is probably a dead project, but it works best on linux when it comes down to integration and hw acceleration, but definetly does not have the best performance
- default mail/calendar/... apps are just better and nicer and integrates extremely well with the system. Gnome calendar integration with "system tray" is really good, but thunderbird is like 20 years old and really sucks, other mail clients are maybe nicer but with less features. KDE cant even show events from calendar in the tray.
- you can have linux cli (and even experimentally linux gui) apps on windows in WSL. but docker kind of sucks on windows even if it uses WSL.
- multi-touch especially on MS precision touchpad is just better.
- mouse 4- mouse 5 on windows explorer works as forward/backward
- and many more.
Why linux is better:
- probably more secure
- less telemetry
- better file system
- it's just more comfy to do updates
- shell is just better, with better tools
- you can tell your friend you hate to type sudo rm -rf /
- bragging rights being nerd and excuse for superiority complex
- highly customizable (depending on apps and grakphical tool kits they are using)
- you feel good about yourself not supporting just another evil coporation
- you can be nerd in KDE, in Gnome (or G-nome, gNOME,...), lxde, xfce, cinnamon,... in arch, in rhel, suse, debian, freebsd
- just apt/dnf/... install dev tools and local servers/databases
Many linux fans just don't see how much everyday quality of life features they are missing on linux and how much time they need to spend to set up everything to work properly or at least well enough to not kill yourself. Linux is really only for devs, nerds and servers. Every day there is 10 new videos titled "is the Foo Bar - XY the best linux distro yet?" you try it oh nice, same backend as other 200 distros with different UI component arrangement and that's the cold truth.
All the issues quality of life issues with linux I have mentioned are there for more than 10 years. If all devs creating all those distros would rather focus on improving wayland, kernel, gnome/kde apps or creating new improved versions of apps that does not suck then linux would be much better.
I find it weird that everyone is bashing Microsoft for the account drama, while nobody is talking about what Apple is doing with theirs. Sure, macOS is not as obnoxious with forcing you to log in as Windows, but if you want to install _anything_ from the App Store, even if it's free... well, you need to log in. And you can't make an account without telling Apple your freaking phone number (well, there's a workaround for that, but that requires you to put in your credit card number instead, so... yeah), which is just insane. And they'll heavily push you into enabling 2FA, which is of course generally a good thing if you actually use the cloud services, but if you're just making a throwaway account to be able to install free apps (some of which are not available anywhere else), it's probably not what you want.
On Windows, on the other hand, yes, you need to go offline, and in the newest version even do some command-line-fu (or hacks with invalid email addresses), but once you actually manage to bypass the login, you're pretty much golden. I'm honestly not sure if it's really worse compared to what macOS is doing.
Of course Linux solves everything, but... Sometimes you may need an OS that actually supports commercial software.
To force you to click on the show extra options after right click it is the most toxic thing I've seen in a long time.