Golf Tip: Role of Left Arm in Swing; Jim Ballard
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- Опубліковано 17 бер 2008
- Keep your left elbow pointing to the ground to eliminate angles in the swing Jimmy Ballard: Listed as one of Golf Magazine's Top 100 Teachers Golf Digest's #24 instructor in the world; Golf Magazine's 80's Teacher of the Decade; Has taught over 300 PGA, LPGA and Senior PGA Tour players
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Jimmy was a passionate rebel to the PGA teaching "club" and his swing philosophy is athletic and spot on. Love this man⛳🙏
after practicing his method with plastic balls for a couple weeks, i decided to try it live with just a set of irons from the front tees where i play. i hit the ball more solidly than any time in my previous 20plus yrs of golf and was lucky to have a career putting round at the same time. shot a 66 and became a terminal ballard fan. very simple swing.
Jimmy Ballard has been around forever and knows what he is talking about!
Jimmy is right on!
Used his technique this morning
Along with a better set up
No back pain !! Thanks Jimmy
best tip ive heard in ages
Excellent tip! Thanks.
I tried this exact thing today on my own. I noticed on the backswing my left elbow pointed out away from my body so I tried what he said about keeping my left arm tucked tight. (VJ used to practice this so that is what I was thinking of) I hit one of the best drives of my life and my approach shot I was pin high but just off the green I think due mostly to my alignment. Anyway this video is what I was looking for as a reference! Thanks.
Great swing thought too have.
I 100% agree. It's so simple and really effective. Might take some getting used to but, I think this tip can shave strokes from anyones card.
Excellent video. Takes focus off striking the ball. Very unique swing thought. Just focus on the lead elbow. Going to give it a try next range session. Thanks!
Great advice
great video!
I thought only about this and hit the ball great!
Jimmy- is dead on- he understands the swing better than anyone/hands down! Why is everyone so afraid of the fact that he is right?
this is good advice,swing radius is important for consistent hitting,Gary Edwins right sided swing incorporates radius as one of his main parts !!!
follow this advice, he is the best teacher out of all of them
this is very important for a repeatable swing,makes swinging a lot more simple
Well I was one shanked ball away from quitting golf until I saw this video. I had somehow managed to forget how to hit my irons and tried every possible to get the ball off the ground but nothing worked. Now I'm hitting straight as hell and very consistent. Only thing is I'm not hitting as far as I did before I lost my swing, but I'm sure with time and practice ill get the distance down. I highly recommend trying this if you're struggling with your irons.
Pretty darn good tip, since there is no need for the left arm to roll at the shoulder joint, and that is the main source of off-plane motion.
Kenny Rogers is such a talented man, Singer, Fried Chicken Magnate and now Golf Instructor, is there no end to his talent!
It's a fine time to leave me loose swing.
Is there no limit to your stupidity?
nice Jimmy thanks
I'm left handed play golf right hand and what he is saying is true, the motion you impart on your left arm is so important to staying on plane and not going over the top
Never thought like this
nice tip
I''l try this trick!
great video....Kenny Rodgers is amazing
sing,act,teach golf...whats next !!!!!!!
HEY just reviewed the ballard swing theory and watched video of gary player showing how the ballard swing is so solid without angles for those who think some how he only worked with 2nd rate players just check his resume of major champions and solid multiple pga tour winners seve , strange , sandy lyle , paul azinger hal Sutton among a few as well as Mediate how so many people who have limited knowledge can make their uneducated views not one of them ever won a pga tour event i would bet most are couch potatoes that talk a great game
Cool video. Simple but well explained. My big fault found out.
Thanks!This really works!Best tip ever for me!
Golf tips are like elbows. Everybody has one. If fact, most people have 2!
My first golf lessons, were in college, where Fred Warren the golf coach, emphasized the left arm! It controls posture, impact, speed, and accuracy! To many people 99.9 percent of golfers, think right side, and 99.5 percent of them flip their right hand! This video is not a coach, but if you can understand the role of the left arm, you are on the way to being a ball striker!
Not sure, think there is some rotation of the arm to the top of the swing.
This is the hole pont of connection. To inhibit rotation of the humerus (upper arm bone), especially in the backswing. If you rotate the humerus going back, you're going to have to rotate going back down, and that is a real mother to do with any consistancy. Plus if you don't re-rotate, you will have to get over-active with the hands to square up the face. If there is one thing you can take from Ballard, it's this concept.
Sounds very ...humerous 😂...
Looks like he doesn't turn his shoulders and that keeps the club going straight back.
Seems like when you turn or twist the humerus get activated and you are dead ...using the small muscles..and the club gets stuck behing, under, blocked and flipped
Your elbows are at the end of the bone that connects to your shoulder. There are no moving pieces in the elbow to allow for any pronation or supination, but there are in your shoulder joints (rotator cuffs). So the idea of keeping your elbow pointing at the ground is not necessarily bad advice, but it is not controlled by the elbow. It's 100% controlled by the shoulder. If you're going to try to do what he's suggesting, focus on what your shoulder joint is doing, not the elbow.
You are 100 percent correct ! The reason I think he sometimes gets a bad rap is he is a method teacher. He believes in one method of swinging a golf club. We know that Sam Snead and Lee Trevino swung the club diffrently. He does not accept any other method than connection.
Good stuff !!
on what page is Mr. Hogan in The Modern Fundamentals of Golf describing "thumbing a ride"?
Chapter 4 The Second Part of the Swing page 85
@@chuckpoe5551 there's nothing on page 85 about "thumbing a ride" - in fact, only a drawing...are you sure that isn't Ballard adding Ballard to Mr. Hogan's expert description? I'm quite familiar with Mr. Hogan's explanation of supination and the idea that "thumbing a ride" is analogous and appropriate to that description, and is contained in the book, is confusing
best tip ever for slicers-just one thing jim keep the left elbow up when taking a drink then you wouldnt spill it on your shirt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@honudakine
isnt that the truth. as soon as you think you understand or get the lagistics of it, you realize there is a whole other chapter of things with GOLF.
dam i really do love golf. just cant get enough of it
since when did Hogan or any other player of significance BEND his left arm?
Can't have Kenny Rogers teaching me golf...next!
for me the most important thing in my swing. left elbow to the ground
How.?
this stops that chicken wing on the follow through as well, many have their elbow pointed toward the target on the follow through, you lose lots of power and have very inconsistent flight paths. When I learned to do this I also found that concentrating on the left elbow down allowed for an easier follow through with my hips/shoulders, as soon as you chicken wing your arms and body slow down and don't allow a follow through.
I have chicken wing on the follow through even the balls go nice. Of course, if I could rotate my left forearm, it would maybe go away but then cause maybe other problems...One day, this will be also fixed
Its a nice and simple method for a consistant swing. Its good for the beginner. Things gets worst when we advance.
This tip can be worth $1k in golf lessons to realize on your own. Revisiting this on the range today.
Thumb a ride with my super sexy sunglasses🤣😂🤣
Dig that groovy hat.
hahaha the "gaf" swing
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One of the last greatest teachers alive. Studied one of the greatest swings in golf Ben Hogan.....case closed.
closed? good - now we can move on to something better.
is that Kenny Rogers?
has anyone ever seen this guy hit a golf ball?
I'm not sold on Ballard!
And now for Dukes of Hazard........
This is another way to say left arm folds thru impact
with a method like that you will have to thumb a ride
I just got done watching a video that teaches the opposite of this. What to do?
+BrandonWendt2 to get to position on plane you have to rotate your left arm slightly ,,,to much rotatioun u hit a hook not enough u get across the line ,,,,don't listnen this rubbish
top of the world you are so right dano 1100 knows zilch about the swing
"Golfers," who disagree with Mr. Ballard's method, are what the sports community refers to as "Weekend Warriors!!" Look at the professional golfers, Mr. Ballard has worked with...Thank you! People who disagree with this concept, disagree with the greatest ball strikers of All-time! "Flippers" and "Scoopers," who make up 98% of "golfers?" These people need a course in Physiology! Hands make up 1/4 of the human body's bones (27 in each hand!) Just in the palms alone there are over 17,000 nerves! The golf grip is in the fingers, and the can: Bend, make a fist, grip, grasp, and fold fingers! Ben Hogan as well as Mr. Ballard, do not want, "THE TAIL WAGGING THE DOG!" "Flipping" and "Scooping," used by 98% of "Hackers" Is erratic, and produces many results, none consistent! The "golfer," who uses their hands to manipulate the golf club, has a hard time breaking 90! Flipping and scooping is not referred to anywhere in Mr. Hogan's book! It was written regarding fundamentals in the golf swing! Simple and direct! Advice to "Flippy," and "Scoopy," the forearms rotate through the golf swing! NOT THE FOREARMS! great VIDEO Mr. Ballard!
No, the golf grip is in the palms so the club can't waver(open or close) like Ballard said, "square to square". You see all the flipping comes from the wavering of the clubface or the opening and closing of the clubface which is from the gripping in the fingers. You never grip in the fingers, always in the palms. Moe Norman the best ball striker the world will ever see.
Do what works for you, trying to copy someone's swing is stupid. I didn't start playing great golf until I just experimented and found what works for me. I'm 52 years old and bend my right arm severely on my back swing and hit the ball longer and straighter than when I try to keep it straight. To he honest I think today's teachers really hurt people from playing good/great golf. Imagine Arnold Palmer getting a lesson today.
Your right wrist must bend in the back swing! Your left wrist does not! I suggest you read Ben Hogan's, "5 fundamentals of golf!"
golf is all about ANGALS I agree with left arm theory . but you must have a angal of atiac
I apologize RW...You did say SOMETHING favorable about Mr Ballard...I thought you were totally disrespecting him. Please accept my sincere apology.
chuck norris's dad
Jimmy Ballad once said he was never going to write a golf book because he could put all the necessary information on one page. Well here it is:
Think initially 'zipping up' upper arms by your sides as Jimmy shown. Then think left elbow 'down' at the end of the backswing and then the right elbow 'pointing' at your target at the completion of your swing. And allow your body to be responsive to your intentions of your your left and right elbows during your golf swing. And there you have what I call. "L/R Elbows Body Responsive Theory of Everything in A Golf Swing." Now isn't that simple? Thank you very much.
But Hogan pronted his left forearm especially from about halfway in backswing to the end of his backswing and continued this pronation which made the shaft more shallow the club until just before the club was parallel to the ground on the downswing where he supinated his left forearm to impact.
Wrong. You don't understand the difference between pronation vs.supination
@@FREDDIE0309 Yes I do know, check out UA-cam video by RegisterednurseRN Supination be Pronation
This guy is a genius. The left elbow controls the golf club as long as you grip the golf club with your left hand only. That is some good insight. If old Kenny Rogers here really wants to rock the world of golf then he must make a video in which he holds the golf club with his right hand only and then demonstrate how the right elbow controls the golf club. That would be a big moment in golf instruction.....
It doesn't matter if the right hand is on the club or not. The left, or leading arm, defines the radius of the swing, and Ballard is correct in wanting to keep the radius the same throughout. The leading elbow down is what keeps the club face square to it's arc, which, once learned, makes for a very powerful and accurate strike.
whetedge Then how to you explain that some of the best ball strikers had what is called a "short left arm"?
Ps: as long as people like you believe the secret lies in the left hand then RIGHT hand hitters like me will always outdrive you by at least 50-70 yards because lag lies in the angle of the right hand when in the hitting zone
bobbie bobbejaan You are assuming the right is passive? I, and Ballard, state the left "defines the radius". Explaining the function of the left in no way suggests what the role of the right is. In my world, and Ballard's, both arms function as one unit, and in my swing (or the one I aspire to), the arms are not doing the swinging, but are being swung by the large core muscles. Maintaining the structure of the arms *allows* the right to unload at precisely the right time, and it does so with astounding power.
Your question seems contradictory when you ask about the "short left arm". "Defining the radius" implies a short left arm, because if you try to extend it from the shoulder, you lost your pure radius, and indeed then have to pull the left arm in order to make a return motion. No where did I or Ballard suggest you swing with just the left. In fact, I often have to remind myself to initiate the swing by moving the right shoulder up and back. Keeping the left connection (I prefer to express it as keeping the left humerus leveraged against the rib cage), automatically keys the left shoulder in the direction of the return swing.
whetedge
Lemme guess...Ballard also recogns the head must stay in one place and not dip like Rorry and Tiger is doing?
bobbie bobbejaan What is it you have against Ballard? He allows for the head to follow the spine, back away from the target on the up swing (rather than setting up with a "tilt"), but keeping it level to the ground. Athletes like Tiger and Rory dip into the return swing in order to accelerate the unwind, but it can lead to trouble and injury, and it is a product of a not consistent radius.
the forgotten key point in the golf swing, thumb it, i'm going that away......
The only goobers I see here are the couple that commented 3 months ago...
Maybe you should read my book Golf Lessons Not For Monkeys to understand better every aspect of the swing as to the reason(s) or at least the logic behind them.
@ggkolar the back of the left hand controls the clubface ..PERIOD!!! I wouldn't watch his cd if he paid me . You and ballard should buy a little book called "The Golfing Machine" and truly learn what the golf swing is all about, I never hook by the way. The golfing machine has made that possible. Ballard is a method teacher. His method works for some. The Golfing machine is NOT a METHOD!! It gives you the necessary information to find your own game .
Wait a minute. The left elbow does role in connection with the pivoting of the body for a good swing. Try it and see for yourself. Jim's argument does not hold water, since as he rotated his left elbow he did not pivot hid body as well.
What if your not Ben Hogan many great players have a swing arc from wide to narrow others narrow to wide ala Tom Watson and some wide to wide. So the arc does not always remain the same . I like the left arm connection analogy.
CURTIS STRANGE,SEVE,SANDY LYLE, PAUL AZINGER all his players but Thomas Fraser know better yeah right ha ha
He states it does not role! You are right, he did not pivot his body, only showed the relevant position of where the left arm would be in the swing!
lol
is it just me or does that look like a 50s vegas mobster
Its you!
Jimmy for Chrissake look at Hogan's swing. He rolled his left forearm exactly the way you said NOT to. Look at Tom Watson. Same thing. Jimmy you may have conned a second tier player like Rocco Mediate into thinking you know what you're talking about but you can't conn me !!!!!!
he was the instructor for Curtis strange sandy lyel seve, paul azinger are thes 2nd tier players joe j spend a little time learning the history of the game and tell folks what top players you taught
jayc650 Yes Hogan did. Observe his swing in this vid and then tell me that he did not.
ua-cam.com/video/QL_6M_xZvq0/v-deo.html
Ok thanks
Sorry Mr.Ballard.The clubface is controlled by the BACK of the left hand NOT the elbow.You can turn your hand WITHOUT moving the elbow and the clubface will follow the back of your hand NOT the elbow. As a matter of fact I will go out on a limb and say that MOST if not ALL pros control the face of the club by thinking about the position of the back of the left hand NOT the clubface itself "KEEP YOUR GOLFING MIND IN YOUR HANDS"!! The Golfing Machine 101. "Thumbing a ride" not elbowing a ride:)
To supinate, the left arm must externally rotate, meaning the elbow must also rotate. Lead wrist flexion alone does not equal a square clubface. Try a drive hold with only left wrist flexion (dead in the water). Learn how to supinate before anything, then add left wrist flexion to deloft face. This guy is trying to give us a simplified feel, and it totally works.
taught Curtis strange sandy lyle seve paul azinger to name a few who did you teach nygolfer major champs and very good players but of course you know better you cannot turn your hand without rotation at the elbow simple you know zip about his method
Wrongo! I played college golf at ETSU, and Coach Warren emphasized the importance of the left elbow!
We all have our own options. You just don't happen to agree with: Ben Hogan page 85 in the book : Five Lessons, Mr. Ballard, or myself.
I analyzed your comments and what you say and what Ben Hogan illustrates, you are what is known in golf as a: "Flipper," or "Scooper!"
SPIETH ??????
A jew I think
Respectfully, thats simply not true.
Fuk dat... not for me
excellent tip! Thank you!