I'm so glad I got to watch both WCW and WWF during the Monday Night Wars. In those days it really did seem like everybody was watching. It's impossible to explain to people who weren't there. I had always watched wrestling sporadically, but I really got into it around 1996, and didn't stop watching until WWF purchased WCW. My step dad would order almost every PPV. It was insane! I watched both, but I was more invested in WCW. I'd switch back and forth depending on what matches were taking place, but mostly I stuck with Nitro. They had more of the older wrestlers I grew up with like Hogan and Sting, and I guess I felt a loyalty to those guys more than I did anyone WWF had to offer. That Taker Mankind match was insane though. As much as I loved WCW that is my favorite match of all time. I've forgotten a lot of the matches that took place back then, but I'll never forget that one.
I can't believe it's already been 20 years... I remember sitting up watching this in my dad's living room and so much electricity coming from the TV. My palms were sweaty like I was watching my team in the playoffs! The whole build-up with Hogan throwing out Scott Hall first was so fucking cool. I always see people saying it was a waste and should've been on PPV but I totally disagree. I mean, I understand that from the business side of things it might have been a waste, but I liked that it was such a surprise and felt like we got to see something really special. I always remembered that date, July 6, 1998, like it was a super bowl or something. I was way into the Goldberg machine at that time, so it was a great time to be a rasslin fan. Besides, we were poor, PPVs were for rich people hahaha!
I get what your saying. I never had a big problem with this being on nitro. What I have a problem with is that they would schedule a show in the georgia dome on a nitro months in advance as opposed to a ppv date.
I was (thankfully) at this event and, pay-per-views included, this was the best event I've attended. The pop at the end of the Goldberg-Hogan match was deafening.
I think they did the right thing by putting it on nitro. Eric makes perfect sense when he says they were looking for a way to turn around momentum overall; and not just focusing on a big ppv pay day.
Wrestling podcasts are the ONLY podcasts I bother to listen to. THIS podcast has been distracting me from all my other podcasts. Keep it up, gentlemen.
I thought hogan would somehow be able to beat him. Hogan rarely lost a match at that time. So goldbergs win was kind of an upset but goldberg losing would have been an upset aswell. Great match they dont do it like that anymore
@@weworldwide1348 dude don't bash the man and call him a virgin. Nitro parties were the shit back then... wrestling was actually cool in the late 90s early 2000s. The fanbase was 18-35 and if you watch the live crowds there were a lot of hot ladies in the seats, especially the spring break nitro in Panama. Everyone was doing the parties back then and it was fun.
@@weworldwide1348 only virgins call people virgins. If you hosted a Nitro party, you were slaying pussy. You? You were watching Save the Last Dance and crying with your sisters
he didn't, hogan made it look like he was cheated out of the title again, he had goldberg down before he was distracted by the ringside activity and forgot about goldberg if it was clean then maybe hogan would produce a few more leg drops and win
People say its a cliche to hate Hogan, or your some kinda sheep or follower, but f**k that shit. I hate Hogan, he did so many things that hurt the business simply to put himself over. Eric himself says in one of these podcasts that Hogan would say, 'yeah, that's best for the business but it takes money out of my pocket'.
I remember when Goldberg did a backflip while Glacier threw a leg sweep. I was 19yo and I nearly shit a box of kittens. I was hooked line and sinker for real.
You should look back at a match of his with Mike Enos in April of 98. He does this cool leg takedown. He was mostly sloppy with the leg takedowns but that one was awesome. To see a 6' 5", 300 pound jacked up freak do that, man, goldberg was awesome when his strengths were accentuated.
I had watched & enjoyed wrestling as a kid. But I was seventeen and flipping through the channels when I fell upon this episode of Nitro. I was amazed by the storytelling in this single episode and it immediately turned me from a casual fan to a lifelong addict to this day. So a huge thank you from this fella to Easy E for just straight-up telling the best over-arcing story in wrestling to date w/ WCW versus the NWO.
This was the greatest match of my life as a kid. I just watched it again. It's only 7 minutes long and no exceptional spots but it brought a tear to my eye even today. Even as a kid I knew titles never change hands except on PPV and we'd seen it 1000000x on raw a teaser match that never amounted to anything and a wasted couple of hours of anticipation. No one expected Goldberg to win. NO ONE. We expected a run in or Hogan to cheat and ruin Goldberg's streak. As soon as it looked like Goldberg had a chance Curt Hennig came to the ring and we thought "oh here comes the BS DQ" and the fans there even started throwing stuff into the ring expecting it. But then magic happened as Karl Malone gave Hennig the cutter and Hogan got the spear. You thought. "Hm? Nah..." More fans threw trash in the ring ready for the BS. This had built for YEARS they were not going to give the payoff away for free. Then the suplex and the referee started counting.. "1... 2..." No f'ing way! Where's the DQ? Where's the non finish? This payoff is years in the making! Did someone screw up? Is Hogan going to kick out? "3" Stunned silence followed by the entire arena erupting like you've never heard on TV before or since. There are kids in the audience crying with joy as the payoff finally took place but no one could believe it. It was like watching a movie for 3 years where the good guy just got the crapped kicked out of him over and over until the last ten minutes he finally saves the world. Truly a historic night that I'll never forget in pro wrestling and I sincerely thank Mr. Bischoff for letting me experience that kind of joy as a child with my less than stellar home life. Good guys can win.
I totally agree with you. And not only did your description bring me right back and give me goosebumps, but I was also reminded of how much I appreciated it as a fan when it happened. It made me way more loyal to them. It worked.
I'm really happy it worked for so many people, back then wrestling had a much more giving audience which created a symbiotic relationship at times to make things work. With that said though I was one of the few that hated Goldberg, I just thought he got by on very little and looked real by hitting for real. Though I'd still agree he was great for me too cos I was so in to someone beating him I was on the edge of my seat lol. Kinda like how people were with Cena except Cena could work and deserved his spot. I sometimes think fans are backward
dude thank God I'm not the only one... my girl probably thinks I'm a sick fuck watching all this old shit started raws from 97 to 01 gonna go through nitro from 97 to 01 to thank you network.
@@joshuagardner7740 I'm still holding out from paying for the WWE network. Even though I do want to see these old nitros, or the old ppv's, I still hate just vince and the wwf/WWE so much, that I can't rationalize giving that dude 10 bucks a month.
@@joshuagardner7740 hahaha I used to think my wife was saying the same thing behind my back. Cause I'll throw nitros on and watch them in order starting in 95 and only skipping certain matches like Jerry Flynn vs Van fucking hammer. Many a night I fall asleep with the network burning through 2 more episodes.
33:35 for bischoffs very detailed recap of the previous morning when he finally got to schtup his wife. From the sounds of it he was beatin it up like Kevin Nash throwing Rey mysterio straight into a trailer
That episode of Nitro was the first time I watched pro wrestling. The only reason I watched that night was because of Karl Malone and Dennis Rodman being advertised for it.
I agree, back then I was only 13-16 years old and didn't have the extra loot laying around to be able to purchase all the ppvs so i only got to see the big ones that my dad was willing to pay for cause he watched wrestling with me. So seeing goldberg spear and jack hammer Hogan in front of 40,000+ fans in the Georgia dome and getting one of this biggest pops in history of the wrestling business, the LAST thing on my mind was "this should have happened or been on ppv". I was too busy yelling hell yea brother!
Eric Bischoff is a true genius. He was the progenitor to what wrestling became at it's peak from late '96 to 2000. Fuck, call me a "mark" I don't care.
It so crazy to think about and hear about this Nitro. Hell just to hear about this time period in wrestling. I was 10 years old in 98 and still remember how awesome this period of wrestling was. I'm not saying that wrestling is bad now but like Eric said the kind of energy in the arenas or being around other wrestling fans at this time will probably never be experienced again.
The Goldberg-Hogan deal went down pretty much as I expected. I totally predicted him rolling over Hall - and you kinda HAD to put him over Hogan also. Imagine Hogan-Warrior 1 ending in a DQ. LOL
Goldberg wasn't WCW's version of the Ultimate Warrior. Renegade was. Then WCW actually DID bring in Ultimate Warrior and got the worst clusterfuck in WCW history with him.
Anybody find it weird that when Conrad and Bischoff do the advertisement for Blue Chew and Bischoff starts talking about sex with his wife, Benoit's WCW music is playing.
Man that was the night. Me and my boys went to a bar and it was packed men and a lot of women all glued to the tvs. 50/50 nWo and Goldberg Fans!! When Hollywood got speared Bar went fucking nutz..After the show everyone got free shots for the rest of the night. Fuck the 90s ruled. #nWo4life
I think that was the most memorable moment in nitro history. I loved the nwo.. Was sick when hogan lost. Never ever have I seen anything like that on raw. Crazy
Like Kevin Nash once said there was a period of time where wcw sold out and booked 5 stadiums in a row during this time period it shows you how hot they were before they had to paper the towns 😅😅
If you want to see how well known Turners approach to lawsuits was I think one of the best examples is a lawsuit filed against them by a wrestler named Rick Reeves. The dude was a wrestler who never wrestled for WCW which was his rationale for his lawsuit. His lawsuit essentially hinges on the claim that he had tried for years to be hired by WCW but that he never was because WCW racially discriminated against African Americans. Basically his claim was that the only reason he wasn’t hired was because of his race. But what makes it clear that Turners handling of lawsuits was a big factor in his lawsuit is that one of his arguments for why WCW had harmed him was the lost earnings he should have made working there, including the claim that them not hiring him prevented him from having a launching point to be able to work in the WWF because if he’d had the chance to wrestle for WCW then he would’ve had the chance to use that time in WCW to be able to work in the WWF. The clear irony of making such an argument would be that if he was such a qualified wrestler who was never hired by WCW solely due to the fact that he was black and discriminated against then he should have been able to work for the WWF instead. If his talent was at a level that the only thing that kept him from being hired on was due to his race it wouldn’t make any sense that he would need to have been hired by WCW to have an opportunity to work in the WWF. It would be interesting to see what attempts he had made to work in the WWF because he makes it sound like he only tried to work in WCW and not the WWF. Clearly a better argument for not being hired due to race would be having worked in the WWF and being able to point out that you were good enough to work for the other major company but not for this one. But claiming that not being hired here prevented your chance to be hired for the other major company despite your talent and because of race doesn’t truly make sense. Not sure how that suit actually ended for him but when you look at an argument like that it seems pretty clear that you filed your lawsuit because there was a reputation that you’d get a settlement in doing so.
i love eric bischof he is realy the the real vizionar of wrestling i watch wrestling in evrope 97 98 and you know what we only watch wcw i dont know what wwf is or vicne mcmahn sow i think i said it all
Love how he shuts Conrad up who follows every word meltzer says who wasn't there who never produced never wrestled never was in creative nothing just 2nd guessing n opinions
@The Darkhorse Effect if you listen enough, there are times where Eric is kinda fair about the opinion of Meltzer. Call him on out on his BS but also call Conrad out for hounding him at times unfairly
Yeah, but you know Meltzer is just reporting what sm1 from inside is telling him.. Then he puts his own spin on things for the reader.. I see why he gets so much "heat", as they say.. So I get ur point in sm regard.. Cya man
Nah I like Bruce Pritchard better, he has been in the business longer and been apart better moments, and grew up in the business as a kid, That's goes way back to the early 1970s and he was part of both WWE boom, golden Era periods, the 1980s Rock "N" Wrestling connection and the late 90s the Attitude Era, he has more knowledge and knows about pro wrestling more then Eric Bischoff. Plus he was part of the territory days. 46 years in the business alot wealth of knowledge and been apart of more iconic moments and seen things and been a around great eras.
June giovani Bruce is awesome but Eric changed the business forever. Plus older isn't always better. Do you still use a VCR to watch movies or a cassette player to listen to music? Do you use a pager instead of a cell phone? Are you using AOL as an internet provider?
The stupid thing was making this a normal Nitro and now just making it a PPV. Hogan vs Goldberg would of drawn mega mega millions. The show was already going to be sold out.
Giving it away for free was genius. I gave up on wrestling back when The Ultimate Warrior beat Hogan at WM. So I had been away from WWF for like 8 years and didnt know much about WCW. I remember it being on at a friend's house and i was like no way is Hogan losing the belt to this nobody. My friend was like Goldberg is the best man, undefeated. I was enthralled by the match. I bought the PPV that Saturday, Bash at the Beach 98. So that free match lead immediately to a PPV buy, and many many more. It got me back into WWF to. I went to multiple WMs. That one free match made me a wrestling fan again for years and years. Then of course the WCW and NWO Invasions and the rise of John Cena as the new Hogan killed it. The last truly great match was Hogan Rock at WM18. Maybe Flair HBK at WM28(?)
I was mad about Warrior defeating Hogan in 1990. I was a Hulkamaniac as a child. I pretty much quit watching wrestling. The only way I knew about current wrestlers was playing current wrestling video games on Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo. Then one day, when I was 13 (1996) I was channel surfing and I caught a glimpse of my childhood idol dressed in black and white and doing dastardly things much to the chagrin of the crowd. I saw a man I remembered as a kid with spiky blonde hair and face paint come out in the rafters looking like the Crow, wearing a trench coat with long, dark hair. I was like "wait a minute....THAT'S Sting!?!....and Hogan is a BAD GUY?!?...." and I fell right back into the world of professional wrestling. From that point in 1996 I watched WCW and taped WWF to watch right afterwards every Monday for the next few years. Until WCW folded. Saw every moment of Goldberg's rocket to the top and the split of the nWo.....I loved it all. I actually really miss WCW, to be honest. I liked WWF, but I liked WCW's Monday show a little better.
Ultimate Warrior,Lex Luger,Goldberg...interesting the guys that Hogan was willing to put over and their reputations as in ring workers (or lack thereof) compared to his. I guess if Flair made Sting & Steamboat,one could say Hogan made Warrior & Goldberg.
I don’t know if it (Goldberg vs Hogan) should have been saved for a pay per view, because at the time it didn’t feel that way. If it had gone that way, the main event should still have been Hall vs Goldberg. Then Hogan/Goldberg at the next Ppv for sure
I think part of the difficulty of holding off for a PPV was tied to the fact that Hogan had matches for the next two PPVs with celebrities already happening. The next PPV was the Rodman match. The following was the Leno match. So the decision to hold off for a PPV would’ve come down to giving up one of those celebrity matches to have the match or waiting until the September PPV to have this match as the main event. So you’d be deciding about giving up the mainstream media attraction of the celebrities being involved in those matches by swapping this match in or risking the intrigue of the match cooling off over the two months you held off to have the match be on PPV. If you didn’t have those celebrity matches happening then I think it’s an easier call to put this on PPV. But when you’re staring down the fact that you realistically can’t put it on PPV for a couple months or you can put it on a show in Atlanta when Goldberg is red hot. And the attraction of having an exciting television product could draw in more fans who then invest in your product and decide to start buying your PPVs. So I think this decision gets a lot more criticism than it warrants in the full context of the situation. Now if there weren’t those celebrity matches happening and they’d still put it on TV then I feel like criticism would be more warranted than it is.
The smart money would have book a rematch at starrcade 98 hogan v goldberg, but wcw kept losing ground in the ratings, so they ditched that idea and went with goldberg. v nash instead. To this day I have no idea why Hogan went along with it considering he never had a rematch with goldberg after that.
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Nirvana wasn't grunge? Lol. Probably was grunge before that too, because usually when something hits mainstream it's peaking. The peak is the beginning of the... Oh why am I explaining this to you.
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While I understand the reasoning...I still think this match should have been done on PPV while still gaining control over the ratings. What if, for example. Goldberg had faced off with Scott Hall or Keven Nash and then beaten either of them soundly while gaining a #1 contender spot? Hulk Hogan could have come in at the end, gotten beaten down, and then...Goldberg could have stood over Hogan while holding the title over his head. That would have sent the fans home happy, built things up, and would have popped the rating Bischoff was hoping for. Just an idea. I don't think it was an either/or situation
The Vince wouldn't put Hogan vs Goldberg on T.V may have happened. I mean Brock vs Hogan happened on a Smackdown and he wanted to feed SCSA to Brock on Raw as well during this time.
I'm so glad I got to watch both WCW and WWF during the Monday Night Wars. In those days it really did seem like everybody was watching. It's impossible to explain to people who weren't there. I had always watched wrestling sporadically, but I really got into it around 1996, and didn't stop watching until WWF purchased WCW. My step dad would order almost every PPV. It was insane! I watched both, but I was more invested in WCW. I'd switch back and forth depending on what matches were taking place, but mostly I stuck with Nitro. They had more of the older wrestlers I grew up with like Hogan and Sting, and I guess I felt a loyalty to those guys more than I did anyone WWF had to offer. That Taker Mankind match was insane though. As much as I loved WCW that is my favorite match of all time. I've forgotten a lot of the matches that took place back then, but I'll never forget that one.
I can't believe it's already been 20 years... I remember sitting up watching this in my dad's living room and so much electricity coming from the TV. My palms were sweaty like I was watching my team in the playoffs! The whole build-up with Hogan throwing out Scott Hall first was so fucking cool. I always see people saying it was a waste and should've been on PPV but I totally disagree. I mean, I understand that from the business side of things it might have been a waste, but I liked that it was such a surprise and felt like we got to see something really special. I always remembered that date, July 6, 1998, like it was a super bowl or something. I was way into the Goldberg machine at that time, so it was a great time to be a rasslin fan. Besides, we were poor, PPVs were for rich people hahaha!
Goldberg was lame then, and he's lame now.
Jiminy Jillickers omg 😮
Hogan vs Goldberg, Or Sting vs Goldberg At Starrcade 1998 At The Georgia Dome. Or In Front Of 100,000 Fans
omfg and wow!😮
I get what your saying. I never had a big problem with this being on nitro. What I have a problem with is that they would schedule a show in the georgia dome on a nitro months in advance as opposed to a ppv date.
Eric actually said, "Don't ask me man! I'm just here to answer questions."
context is king
I don't remember. How could I? It was 25 years ago.
Being a WCW fan during the Monday night wars, I love this podcast. Thanks to the Bisch for agreeing to do this show.
Between politics & being stuck home working for more than a year due to pandemic my life is seemingly destroyed. Thank you for being a distraction
I was (thankfully) at this event and, pay-per-views included, this was the best event I've attended. The pop at the end of the Goldberg-Hogan match was deafening.
I think they did the right thing by putting it on nitro. Eric makes perfect sense when he says they were looking for a way to turn around momentum overall; and not just focusing on a big ppv pay day.
Wrestling podcasts are the ONLY podcasts I bother to listen to. THIS podcast has been distracting me from all my other podcasts. Keep it up, gentlemen.
When that nitro intro used to play it made me want to run thru a brick wall at 10 years old.
That was a great Nitro. My friends' and my mind were blown. We celebrated like a pro sports team won something. Unexpectedly amazing.
I thought hogan would somehow be able to beat him. Hogan rarely lost a match at that time. So goldbergs win was kind of an upset but goldberg losing would have been an upset aswell. Great match they dont do it like that anymore
I was at a sports bar that had Nitro on and everyone was watching that match. It was an amazing experience.
I love these podcasts with Eric and Conrad.
Found it on you tube, great show, thanks again Mr Bischoff !! Sure do miss those nitro parties !!
30:45 - The greatest set-up for an ad ever.... Brilliant.
This podcast is the best. And the Escape From GA thumbnail is awesome lol
This is the best podcast
I used to have Nitro parties!
u sound like a virgin
@@weworldwide1348 dude don't bash the man and call him a virgin. Nitro parties were the shit back then... wrestling was actually cool in the late 90s early 2000s. The fanbase was 18-35 and if you watch the live crowds there were a lot of hot ladies in the seats, especially the spring break nitro in Panama. Everyone was doing the parties back then and it was fun.
@@SupraRy how old are you?
@@weworldwide1348 only virgins call people virgins. If you hosted a Nitro party, you were slaying pussy. You? You were watching Save the Last Dance and crying with your sisters
@@bigollie006 😂
I'll take Bischoffs word over Dave Meltzer any day of the week.
“this podcast has not been sanctioned”
I knew Goldberg was going over The only surprise was that hogan laid down clean
he didn't, hogan made it look like he was cheated out of the title again, he had goldberg down before he was distracted by the ringside activity and forgot about goldberg
if it was clean then maybe hogan would produce a few more leg drops and win
People say its a cliche to hate Hogan, or your some kinda sheep or follower, but f**k that shit. I hate Hogan, he did so many things that hurt the business simply to put himself over.
Eric himself says in one of these podcasts that Hogan would say, 'yeah, that's best for the business but it takes money out of my pocket'.
Starts a 5:15
Ty
Hogan's promo at the start of this show is one of his best heel promos Imho. Played the hot crowd so well
has Bischoff EVER directly, and promptly answered a question?
I love the picture of Bischoff lol
Bischop really tried his best to keep WCW running
I remember when Goldberg did a backflip while Glacier threw a leg sweep. I was 19yo and I nearly shit a box of kittens. I was hooked line and sinker for real.
Seems like only yesterday my friend
You should look back at a match of his with Mike Enos in April of 98. He does this cool leg takedown. He was mostly sloppy with the leg takedowns but that one was awesome. To see a 6' 5", 300 pound jacked up freak do that, man, goldberg was awesome when his strengths were accentuated.
Cool show. I enjoyed the breakdown of the full Nitro. And yep...back in the day, we'd party hard for Nitro. Good times.
"Podfather" Excellent promo by Mr. Bischoff
This match was the first time I questioned anything from a business sense as a kid. I couldn’t believe this wasn’t on PPV lol.
I had watched & enjoyed wrestling as a kid. But I was seventeen and flipping through the channels when I fell upon this episode of Nitro. I was amazed by the storytelling in this single episode and it immediately turned me from a casual fan to a lifelong addict to this day. So a huge thank you from this fella to Easy E for just straight-up telling the best over-arcing story in wrestling to date w/ WCW versus the NWO.
This was the greatest match of my life as a kid. I just watched it again. It's only 7 minutes long and no exceptional spots but it brought a tear to my eye even today.
Even as a kid I knew titles never change hands except on PPV and we'd seen it 1000000x on raw a teaser match that never amounted to anything and a wasted couple of hours of anticipation.
No one expected Goldberg to win. NO ONE. We expected a run in or Hogan to cheat and ruin Goldberg's streak.
As soon as it looked like Goldberg had a chance Curt Hennig came to the ring and we thought "oh here comes the BS DQ" and the fans there even started throwing stuff into the ring expecting it.
But then magic happened as Karl Malone gave Hennig the cutter and Hogan got the spear. You thought. "Hm? Nah..."
More fans threw trash in the ring ready for the BS. This had built for YEARS they were not going to give the payoff away for free.
Then the suplex and the referee started counting.. "1... 2..."
No f'ing way! Where's the DQ? Where's the non finish? This payoff is years in the making! Did someone screw up? Is Hogan going to kick out?
"3"
Stunned silence followed by the entire arena erupting like you've never heard on TV before or since. There are kids in the audience crying with joy as the payoff finally took place but no one could believe it.
It was like watching a movie for 3 years where the good guy just got the crapped kicked out of him over and over until the last ten minutes he finally saves the world.
Truly a historic night that I'll never forget in pro wrestling and I sincerely thank Mr. Bischoff for letting me experience that kind of joy as a child with my less than stellar home life. Good guys can win.
Too bad there's no company like wcw around anymore.
Vince mcmahon doesn't care about the fans or wrestling. Just sponsorship and money.
Well said
I totally agree with you. And not only did your description bring me right back and give me goosebumps, but I was also reminded of how much I appreciated it as a fan when it happened. It made me way more loyal to them. It worked.
Could of kept it to 2 paragraphs
I'm really happy it worked for so many people, back then wrestling had a much more giving audience which created a symbiotic relationship at times to make things work. With that said though I was one of the few that hated Goldberg, I just thought he got by on very little and looked real by hitting for real. Though I'd still agree he was great for me too cos I was so in to someone beating him I was on the edge of my seat lol. Kinda like how people were with Cena except Cena could work and deserved his spot. I sometimes think fans are backward
love hearing the business side of things
Starts @ 5:15
Thank you
I love this Nitro. I wish I could have been there.
Eric Bischoff preach about the marks and the dirtsheets and Dave Meltzer. He read them dirty.
this why i miss monday night war thank god for wwe network i can go watch all classic monday nitros for $9:99 m
That's what I do every night myself watch a few episodes
dude thank God I'm not the only one... my girl probably thinks I'm a sick fuck watching all this old shit started raws from 97 to 01 gonna go through nitro from 97 to 01 to thank you network.
@@joshuagardner7740 I'm still holding out from paying for the WWE network. Even though I do want to see these old nitros, or the old ppv's, I still hate just vince and the wwf/WWE so much, that I can't rationalize giving that dude 10 bucks a month.
@@joshuagardner7740 hahaha I used to think my wife was saying the same thing behind my back. Cause I'll throw nitros on and watch them in order starting in 95 and only skipping certain matches like Jerry Flynn vs Van fucking hammer. Many a night I fall asleep with the network burning through 2 more episodes.
33:35 for bischoffs very detailed recap of the previous morning when he finally got to schtup his wife. From the sounds of it he was beatin it up like Kevin Nash throwing Rey mysterio straight into a trailer
That moment with mysterio is forever etched into my mind. That night was insane.
Like a dart
"IT"S REAL TO ME DAMMIT!!!!" - Conrad
Oh no dude... you had to release this episode at midnight. Looks like I'll be up the next 2 hours haha.
AKcelsior 🤘
That episode of Nitro was the first time I watched pro wrestling. The only reason I watched that night was because of Karl Malone and Dennis Rodman being advertised for it.
I guess you got hooked after?lol
83 freakin' weeks
Goldberg winning on Nitro instead of PPV was never a big deal to me. I watched Mankind and Triple H win their first world title on Raw.
mikeg155 the sad part is that it is their main event
I watched Flair getting his ass run outta WWF on Raw, so some important stuff has always happened on TV; not just PPV
I agree, back then I was only 13-16 years old and didn't have the extra loot laying around to be able to purchase all the ppvs so i only got to see the big ones that my dad was willing to pay for cause he watched wrestling with me. So seeing goldberg spear and jack hammer Hogan in front of 40,000+ fans in the Georgia dome and getting one of this biggest pops in history of the wrestling business, the LAST thing on my mind was "this should have happened or been on ppv". I was too busy yelling hell yea brother!
SC also won the WWE title on Raw in 1998 and 1999.
Eric Bischoff is a true genius. He was the progenitor to what wrestling became at it's peak from late '96 to 2000. Fuck, call me a "mark" I don't care.
I must be the only person in the world that actually really dug the Dungeon of Doom
As a fan of good cheese, I concur. Nothing better than watching those vignettes with a bowl.
Vinnie Vincent you are
Yup
Non ironically? How old were you at the time?
I thought it was cool
1:39:00 Bischoff buries Sullivan but he's forgetting that the Dungeon of Doom was actually hilarious.
1:38:24 "Don't ask me. I'm just here to answer questions." lol
It so crazy to think about and hear about this Nitro. Hell just to hear about this time period in wrestling. I was 10 years old in 98 and still remember how awesome this period of wrestling was. I'm not saying that wrestling is bad now but like Eric said the kind of energy in the arenas or being around other wrestling fans at this time will probably never be experienced again.
The Goldberg-Hogan deal went down pretty much as I expected. I totally predicted him rolling over Hall - and you kinda HAD to put him over Hogan also. Imagine Hogan-Warrior 1 ending in a DQ. LOL
it takes eric 3 minutes to say " we prob booked the georgia dome months in advance,' YEAH, NO SH*t!!!
So no knocking the idiot who asked the question?
“I said bro.. goddamit”
Goldberg wasn't WCW's version of the Ultimate Warrior.
Renegade was.
Then WCW actually DID bring in Ultimate Warrior and got the worst clusterfuck in WCW history with him.
83 Weeks. Best Series On UA-cam.
Eric Bischoff as Snake Plisken!!!!
I think it's great Goldberg vs Hogan was in nitro and not ppv
The only time in my life that I actually rooted for Hogan to win a match.....
Anybody find it weird that when Conrad and Bischoff do the advertisement for Blue Chew and Bischoff starts talking about sex with his wife, Benoit's WCW music is playing.
Derek Phoenix 🤣🤣 I noticed as well
In my opinion the Greatest Match of the past two decades blows anything out of the water that the wwf was doing smart idea having it on nitro
Sami callahan vs kenny omega for the impact title...just to name one....
Man that was the night. Me and my boys went to a bar and it was packed men and a lot of women all glued to the tvs. 50/50 nWo and Goldberg Fans!! When Hollywood got speared Bar went fucking nutz..After the show everyone got free shots for the rest of the night. Fuck the 90s ruled. #nWo4life
Eric and Conrad are the best! 83 weeks is a stroke of genius and Im hooked..Eric can sell me ice cubes in hell!
I think that was the most memorable moment in nitro history. I loved the nwo.. Was sick when hogan lost. Never ever have I seen anything like that on raw. Crazy
Conrad sounds like that kid in South Park who sounds constantly bunged up...lol
Everything Bischoff says about marky Meltzer is 100% true
Like Kevin Nash once said there was a period of time where wcw sold out and booked 5 stadiums in a row during this time period it shows you how hot they were before they had to paper the towns 😅😅
I believe the wwf was doing the same thing in the mid 90s.
@bdot187um wwe did It for ppv shows wcw did it for 5 nitro in a row I'm talking about the Georgia dome new Orleans dome not basketball arenas also..
Another great podcast 🤘
This was wcw at the ultimate peak
One of the best matches ever Goldberg vs hogan . Sad hulk never got a rematch
I give this show 5 stars :)
If only he called in from the Tokyo Dome...
One thing I hated about this time both shows happened at same time
I remember the Nitro parties 🎉🎉
They should do a show with Bruce and Eric together
Love the night wars WCW was the best all WWF had was stone cold but when WCW got Goldberg made WCW unstoppable. Had Dennis Rodman and many others
If you want to see how well known Turners approach to lawsuits was I think one of the best examples is a lawsuit filed against them by a wrestler named Rick Reeves. The dude was a wrestler who never wrestled for WCW which was his rationale for his lawsuit. His lawsuit essentially hinges on the claim that he had tried for years to be hired by WCW but that he never was because WCW racially discriminated against African Americans. Basically his claim was that the only reason he wasn’t hired was because of his race.
But what makes it clear that Turners handling of lawsuits was a big factor in his lawsuit is that one of his arguments for why WCW had harmed him was the lost earnings he should have made working there, including the claim that them not hiring him prevented him from having a launching point to be able to work in the WWF because if he’d had the chance to wrestle for WCW then he would’ve had the chance to use that time in WCW to be able to work in the WWF. The clear irony of making such an argument would be that if he was such a qualified wrestler who was never hired by WCW solely due to the fact that he was black and discriminated against then he should have been able to work for the WWF instead.
If his talent was at a level that the only thing that kept him from being hired on was due to his race it wouldn’t make any sense that he would need to have been hired by WCW to have an opportunity to work in the WWF. It would be interesting to see what attempts he had made to work in the WWF because he makes it sound like he only tried to work in WCW and not the WWF. Clearly a better argument for not being hired due to race would be having worked in the WWF and being able to point out that you were good enough to work for the other major company but not for this one. But claiming that not being hired here prevented your chance to be hired for the other major company despite your talent and because of race doesn’t truly make sense. Not sure how that suit actually ended for him but when you look at an argument like that it seems pretty clear that you filed your lawsuit because there was a reputation that you’d get a settlement in doing so.
I think it worked. Everyone was shocked when they heard Hulk Hogan lost.
If i am not mistaken, I think the dirtsheets back in the day were saying that goldberg was going to win the title on nitro that night...
Probably should have said that’s when Vince decided... “oh we should rip off ECW too!”
i love eric bischof he is realy the the real vizionar of wrestling i watch wrestling in evrope 97 98 and you know what we only watch wcw i dont know what wwf is or vicne mcmahn sow i think i said it all
Well done guys!!!
The Tonight Show set thing we (fans) didn't want that.
Love how he shuts Conrad up who follows every word meltzer says who wasn't there who never produced never wrestled never was in creative nothing just 2nd guessing n opinions
@The Darkhorse Effect if you listen enough, there are times where Eric is kinda fair about the opinion of Meltzer. Call him on out on his BS but also call Conrad out for hounding him at times unfairly
Yeah, but you know Meltzer is just reporting what sm1 from inside is telling him.. Then he puts his own spin on things for the reader.. I see why he gets so much "heat", as they say.. So I get ur point in sm regard.. Cya man
I love Bruce Prichard but Eric Bischoof is so easy to enjoy.
Wronie L.K. Hey Eric.
"Well-You-Know"
Nah I like Bruce Pritchard better, he has been in the business longer and been apart better moments, and grew up in the business as a kid, That's goes way back to the early 1970s and he was part of both WWE boom, golden Era periods, the 1980s Rock "N" Wrestling connection and the late 90s the Attitude Era, he has more knowledge and knows about pro wrestling more then Eric Bischoff. Plus he was part of the territory days. 46 years in the business alot wealth of knowledge and been apart of more iconic moments and seen things and been a around great eras.
June giovani yea Bruce is amazing!
June giovani Bruce is awesome but Eric changed the business forever. Plus older isn't always better. Do you still use a VCR to watch movies or a cassette player to listen to music? Do you use a pager instead of a cell phone? Are you using AOL as an internet provider?
I'm a little disappointed that Conrad didn't bring up the random streak tallies or the name Chad Fortune.
Finishing it off with lugar's theme: biddle guitar
The kid cutting the promo on Hogan right after the opening segment, of you close your eyes, sounds like Heath Slater babay!!
Karl Malone didn't just own semis he had his own trucking company and would even at times drive deliveries for his company during the offseason
I agree with Eric !!
Please taunt Dave Meltzer more.Its fund to listen to.
I was there
The stupid thing was making this a normal Nitro and now just making it a PPV. Hogan vs Goldberg would of drawn mega mega millions. The show was already going to be sold out.
Giving it away for free was genius. I gave up on wrestling back when The Ultimate Warrior beat Hogan at WM. So I had been away from WWF for like 8 years and didnt know much about WCW. I remember it being on at a friend's house and i was like no way is Hogan losing the belt to this nobody. My friend was like Goldberg is the best man, undefeated. I was enthralled by the match. I bought the PPV that Saturday, Bash at the Beach 98. So that free match lead immediately to a PPV buy, and many many more. It got me back into WWF to. I went to multiple WMs. That one free match made me a wrestling fan again for years and years. Then of course the WCW and NWO Invasions and the rise of John Cena as the new Hogan killed it. The last truly great match was Hogan Rock at WM18. Maybe Flair HBK at WM28(?)
I was mad about Warrior defeating Hogan in 1990. I was a Hulkamaniac as a child. I pretty much quit watching wrestling. The only way I knew about current wrestlers was playing current wrestling video games on Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo. Then one day, when I was 13 (1996) I was channel surfing and I caught a glimpse of my childhood idol dressed in black and white and doing dastardly things much to the chagrin of the crowd. I saw a man I remembered as a kid with spiky blonde hair and face paint come out in the rafters looking like the Crow, wearing a trench coat with long, dark hair.
I was like "wait a minute....THAT'S Sting!?!....and Hogan is a BAD GUY?!?...." and I fell right back into the world of professional wrestling. From that point in 1996 I watched WCW and taped WWF to watch right afterwards every Monday for the next few years. Until WCW folded. Saw every moment of Goldberg's rocket to the top and the split of the nWo.....I loved it all. I actually really miss WCW, to be honest. I liked WWF, but I liked WCW's Monday show a little better.
Ultimate Warrior,Lex Luger,Goldberg...interesting the guys that Hogan was willing to put over and their reputations as in ring workers (or lack thereof) compared to his. I guess if Flair made Sting & Steamboat,one could say Hogan made Warrior & Goldberg.
I don’t know if it (Goldberg vs Hogan) should have been saved for a pay per view, because at the time it didn’t feel that way. If it had gone that way, the main event should still have been Hall vs Goldberg. Then Hogan/Goldberg at the next Ppv for sure
I think part of the difficulty of holding off for a PPV was tied to the fact that Hogan had matches for the next two PPVs with celebrities already happening. The next PPV was the Rodman match. The following was the Leno match. So the decision to hold off for a PPV would’ve come down to giving up one of those celebrity matches to have the match or waiting until the September PPV to have this match as the main event. So you’d be deciding about giving up the mainstream media attraction of the celebrities being involved in those matches by swapping this match in or risking the intrigue of the match cooling off over the two months you held off to have the match be on PPV.
If you didn’t have those celebrity matches happening then I think it’s an easier call to put this on PPV. But when you’re staring down the fact that you realistically can’t put it on PPV for a couple months or you can put it on a show in Atlanta when Goldberg is red hot. And the attraction of having an exciting television product could draw in more fans who then invest in your product and decide to start buying your PPVs. So I think this decision gets a lot more criticism than it warrants in the full context of the situation. Now if there weren’t those celebrity matches happening and they’d still put it on TV then I feel like criticism would be more warranted than it is.
The smart money would have book a rematch at starrcade 98 hogan v goldberg, but wcw kept losing ground in the ratings, so they ditched that idea and went with goldberg. v nash instead. To this day I have no idea why Hogan went along with it considering he never had a rematch with goldberg after that.
Drunken Scott Hall was a horrible idea!
Goldberg beats Hogan....iconic....gonna enjoy this one
Bischoff thinks grunge was ten years out of style in 1998? Grunge didn't even start till like 1992-1993!
Wrong
@@carolynbuckley8733 Okay. When did it start?
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Nirvana wasn't grunge? Lol. Probably was grunge before that too, because usually when something hits mainstream it's peaking. The peak is the beginning of the... Oh why am I explaining this to you.
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While I understand the reasoning...I still think this match should have been done on PPV while still gaining control over the ratings.
What if, for example. Goldberg had faced off with Scott Hall or Keven Nash and then beaten either of them soundly while gaining a #1 contender spot? Hulk Hogan could have come in at the end, gotten beaten down, and then...Goldberg could have stood over Hogan while holding the title over his head. That would have sent the fans home happy, built things up, and would have popped the rating Bischoff was hoping for.
Just an idea. I don't think it was an either/or situation
Why is this episode not listed on iTunes???
The Vince wouldn't put Hogan vs Goldberg on T.V may have happened. I mean Brock vs Hogan happened on a Smackdown and he wanted to feed SCSA to Brock on Raw as well during this time.
Hogan dropped belt against andre on tv
Hogan dropped belt against andre on tv
Eric was a hell of a match caller him and the brain and Tony
Love the Show!!
Ok it's been up for about an hour Where is Charlotte? Anyone seen Charlotte?
Does anyone besides you really give a fuck?
@@jrblanton9284 26k subscribers. No videos. Wrestling fans are some of the dumbest in the world.
Wish I could go back and watch again, was just in wwe site and couldn't find it