Otherwise known as quantum superposition, where a particle exists in several states at the same time, and it only turns to specific state once this particle is measured/seen.
@@astrocosmicalDudetrue true, even if the item is observe and has conclusively shown it's state doesn't meant the other state are not true as well because the class teach that even if you have act and choose a path, the other are still true nonetheless. Unlike Schrodinger Teory, the void can warp reality where by all thing are consider cannon, but our physical perception of reality limit this possibility because two state cannot exist at the same time.
For anyone with questions, so basically everyone, this is my take: The Drifter is from the probable reality where your Tenno Operator wasn’t spared and given void powers on the Zariman. So basically the Drifter has been stuck in the void for an unknown amount of time, while the Operator was able to escape with void abilities back to the Origin system Ballas says you can’t kill the Devil, but you can send it back to hell. Pretty sure what he means with this is: the Operator is the chimeral twin the Man in the Wall made for the Drifter. So basically you have a “real” Tenno that is the Drifter, and the “fake” Tenno that is the Operator. The “fake” Tenno can’t die because it’s not real/corporeal. It’s a projection of the Drifter the moment he shook hands with the Man in the Wall in the cutscene. Think of the Operator as a clone who cannot age. The clone assumes the age that the original was at, when the clone was first made. That’s why the Operator never ages, but the Drifter did. And also why the Operator has basically no memory of the Zariman incident also. The Operator was never there originally, _but the Drifter was_ The Operator is basically another Save File for the Drifter. The Drifter then stayed in Duviri in the Void (so many references to it throughout the quest, including the mask the Drifter wears in the Duviri reveal trailer) But now here’s a better question: *MASSIVE OTHER SPOILER FOR CHARACTER DEATH* With Teshin now dead, I wonder if we’ll see a chimeral version of him at some point later in the lore. Remember the Dax soldier on the Horse in Duviri Paradox trailer?
Tenno age, we know that from chains of harrow, reason why we didnt age was explained in second dream and chains of harrow, the operator pods were cryopods.
The wait I see it is this: At the beginning they talk about “Eternalism”, a theory that basically says that once an event occurs reality splits into however many outcomes there are, and while you only see one of those, they are theoretically interchangeable. All those Tenno you see dropping dead or going insane at different intervals are all the different versions of how the deal with The Man in the Wall have gone wrong, leaving you with only two people, the Operator and the Drifter. The Operator is the future in which the Tenno were rescued from the void, the Drifter is the you from the future in which they weren’t, and since he’s still on the void, it allows it to replace the version of himself that was saved in his reality, but only replace, since you can’t have 2 of the same person in one reality.
@@nobody4y yeah, but those were the Tenno with their powers partially sealed/undiscovered. The Tenno of today can teleport around reality as long as there’s a transference conduit on the location. So we don’t really know the full capabilities of the Tenno.
The lesson in the class said that through the Void, Eternalism is true, that a "thing will live/a thing will die" in symmetrical probability of existence. Essentially, when the human child on the Zariman Ten-Zero shook the hand of the embodiment of the Void, the now-Tenno gained this existence: cutting out the timelines where they died, by living in the Void and the Material at the same time. The lunch scene that happens in the quest is on the Zariman, which it isn't fully in the Void, as it was found drifting in the Origin System of the Material. Consider it the proverbial door in the wall, where Material meets Void. Both Void and Material existing at once in the same place creates a paradox (HINT HINT) of existence, as reality demands one constant to exist at a time. But when you have two realities that operate on different rules.....
Somehow, you managed to dumb this down enough that I could finally understand it (after like days of trying to figure it out.) for this, I salute you good sir
My theory about scene with bunch of Operators dying - in Operator form, if you die, you actually don't die and Ballas said "devils can't be killed", so I thought maybe it's because everytime Operator dies, he's just replaced by Operator from another version of reality. So it's some sort of quantum immortality.
Perhaps? Maybe not? Operator just straight up dies, no replacements. Just go back in time, its like how SCP containment breach has that ending where they go "D-Class just can't seem to fuckin' die in this hellmaze of litteraly 100% chance of death. Fucker probably died so many times or saw the future or some shit I DON'T FUCKIN' KNOW" -SCP Foundation
Another version from another reality who remembers being “killed” and has no discrepancies in memory with the one it replaced? That seems really convoluted. It’s already long established that Tenno can’t be killed because they possess Oro, which grants them immortality. To fully kill a Tenno, you have to both kill the body and steal/collect/destroy/whatever their oro to stop them from resurrecting.
So, if I'm getting this right... The Zariman acts as an intersection between different realities for our Character. This includes a branch where they made a deal with the Man in the Wall (the Tenno Operator), and a reality where they didn't (Drifter). Since the Operator was kept on Lua, they've been in stasis, and haven't aged, whereas the Drifter has. I can only guess that the Drifter finally found a way to escape the Zariman 10-0, but through interference by the Man in the Wall, they wandered into this timeline and not their own. MitW probably did this since his anchor in this reality, our Tenno Operator, was banished, and he had to ensure a way to stay connected to the material world. Due to timey-wimey, Schrodinger wave-collapse-y reasons, the Drifter and Operator are causally linked in this reality, and we can choose only one or the other. In this scene, the Operator is essentially Transferring the Drifter, lending them their Void-empowered aid. But I still don't quite understand why we see several versions of our Operator self keel over when they make the handshake.
more like dead after they have been copy pasted from the drifter and the MitW was looking for a stable one who is actually be able to exist, so thats where you come in, i think.
@@AndroidNoir-L06k or possible, these other ones dying are ones that didn't take the deal and perished, so essentially. They represent the tennis other possible choices that lead to their death.
I believe it was showcasing all the possible outcomes in the multiverse where the tenno refused the deal and died, with our tenno and the drifter the only two who came out of it alive, the tenno having taken the deal and the drifter surviving on their own after refusing the deal
@@r3ktl3ss20 bro! I found it, maybe. The "you" that die is actually the possibility of "your existence" like remember that lecture in zariman like " your parent well die, your parent well survive"? That "you" that's die is your possibility merging their essence with all the other possibility into one existence. Even the unum cannot anticipate your present because you are all that of your past, future and present at a constant. That's why you cannot age or die because you can choice your own will. The real you is in the void because you got to have backup in case thing got a little messy, like the one with ballas. In case you "die" and got cast into the void, somebody got to take your place.
Remember that time when you were in operator mode an a lucky grineer put a bullet through your squishy void empowered skull? Or that other time when you were mauled by a infested charger? Or cleaved in half by a butcher? Or burned to a nice charred crisp by a moa's energy bolts? Or beaten to death by a syndicate's thug? Those are the operators keeling over
For me when I played, the evil looking version of me was completely invisible, like their model didn't load, as was the drifter when you meet him as the operator on the Zariman for food and have to choose between them. It greatly confused me as I thought it was meant to be "the man in the wall", since it kept showing zoom ins on the literal wall lol I didn't know better until I watched a lets play of it and went "oh, this completely changes the context"
The funny thing to me is that because I played on Switch, sadly, very few things didn't load properly in my first time I played the New War which made the 2 cutscenes where the devil operator shows in the Zariman didn't load as if it was never there and it was just another hallucination from the Void. Which honestly looked kinda cool, Until I got to choose between Drifter and operator, the Drifter didn't load in the entire cutscene not even during choosing.
There’s one thing bugging me on all of this, and I feel this cutscene shows it somehow: what does the the man in the wall get from us? We never saw what his side of the handshake was, just saying we had to want it.
We don’t know. Too many unknowns. For all we know, what we see isn’t a single entity, but a void manifestation made when we enter the void, only seen by us. We don’t even know if they’re an ally or an enemy. Only thing we know for sure, is through it, our Tenno achieved Eternalsm.
So it looks like at that moment the Drifter and the Operator switched places. Does that mean whenever the "operator" form is actually killed/"sent back to hell". The drifter takes their place until they recharge/relive the Zariman event and shake hands with Manwal (Manwal is what I call the man in the wall)? Since this is the first time the operator "died" they had no idea the Drifter existed or how to switch places with the Drifter. Now they can do it on command. I don't get what happened after this scene though, where the Operator and the Drifter talk. Or why after that you are back in Space with your warframes after being in "Stasis".
I think it's just that the paradoxical nature of the void allows multiple timelines co exist. In most of the timelines, the operator dies in the void. In some they die when accepting manwal's "help". In one, operator is survives and is saved from the void. In another, they survive, but are stuck in the void (probably in duviri to be precise). When Ballas sends you to the "hell" (I think he actually means duviri), your operators actions in another timeline, help the drifter out of duviri, who then in turn also brings Lotus from there. Manwal uses his abilities to connect their minds through a flashback and as operators can already warp long distances, they just switch places like with loki's switch teleport.
@@DissedRedEngie God, DE did a good job making Manwal feel helpful while simultaneously malevolent. Manwal has been helping us for awhile but it feels like fully trusting them would cause our downfall. There could be a reason they keep wearing our face, but that "I just killed the neighbor's cat" smile makes me doubtful.
@@DissedRedEngie It's wrong to think of them as time"lines." There is only one universe with one time, but it is not a line - it is a timecube, and any given "now" is just a point inside that cube. I've seen too many people saying that Warframe is going the multiverse route. That's not what Eternalism is (which is a real understanding of time in our real-life quantum physics) - it's smarter than a multiverse.
I was honestly kind of hoping that the Tenno sitting on the table was Rell from Chains of Harrow, and not the man in the wall. I feel really bad for him after going over the quest again I want him to have some justice
Yeah, I kept hoping, then remembered "oh right, canonically everyone including possibly our own tenno were dicks to him and he'd probably be hiding alone somewhere"
so maybe... just maybe.... when we are dying in the quest as an operator only..mode?... the short scene that operator fall into the void was the another reality that myself died at that moment and its the other operator continues on in other reality?
@@orochinagis nono... we are the operator AND the drifter at the sametime remember what we learned in the zariman 10-0cutscene? It said multiple reality can exist at the same time and theorarically accessible? So operator and drifter are the same being and accessing each other's universe. We are not just an operator. We also the drifter.
When he got stabbed and got sent into the portal, the man in the wall might have healed him or maybe the void itself healed him due to having void power and being in the void
@@strumf321 The Drifter is from the probable reality where your Tenno Operator wasn’t spared and given void powers on the Zariman. So basically the Drifter has been stuck in the void for an unknown amount of time, while the Operator was able to escape with void abilities back to the Origin system Ballas says you can’t kill the Devil, but you can send it back to hell. Pretty sure what he means with this is: the Operator is the chimeral twin the Man in the Wall made for the Drifter. So basically you have a “real” Tenno that is the Drifter, and the “fake” Tenno that is the Operator. The “fake” Tenno can’t die because it’s not real. It’s a projection of the Drifter the moment he shook hands with the Man in the Wall in the cutscene. That’s why the Operator never ages, but the Drifter did
I cant run max graphics and my drifter was so similar to dreamer I notice they swapped when I did this. Here everything looks decent except the hair, they didn't make good lighting for this hairstyle.
the thing that doesn't make sense for me is. if the Drifter refused the deal, how did he still get powers? he must have also accepted the deal, but still stranded in the void. and why at that exact moment? like.. he should've already had it since the operator also had it. it makes no sense for me. also why did the Drifter have the Lotus in the first place? so many plot holes.
The Drifter said he/she doesn't have the void powers (yet). They only got the powers near the end at the final confrontation thing where you choose if you play as the Operator or Drifter for when you face Ballas. After that (including after finishing New War) the Drifter is being enhanced by the Operator when out, which is why DE made Drifter have the same powers (besides the Sirocco) after this.
I think it's meant to be Wally eliminating all the timelines where we die, and creating a Central Finite Curve of all the timelines where we're still alive.
Yeah I know. Why tf is everybody refering to it as devil? We're clearly the "Devil" here and Manwal is just....MAN W A L L Fuckin' straight up cosmic horror, the unexplainable, no gods, no demons, just... T h i n g e x i s t
Oh I get it. He’s called the Devil cause he’s the only one who ever made an Orokin’s mind and ego so humbled and horrified they committed suicide.
Tbf Albrecht already seemed more humble than most, on account of doing the actual work
This is a golden experience requiem all over again.
More like dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
All the writeups make it read like D4C in steel ball run lol.
Nah. Its D4C
D4c is the owner of war frame making them go back in 2021 and that’s how war frame was in 2000
Is that a jojo reference?
It feels like the Eternalism is basically the Void version of Schrodinger's Cat
Otherwise known as quantum superposition, where a particle exists in several states at the same time, and it only turns to specific state once this particle is measured/seen.
@@astrocosmicalDudetrue true, even if the item is observe and has conclusively shown it's state doesn't meant the other state are not true as well because the class teach that even if you have act and choose a path, the other are still true nonetheless. Unlike Schrodinger Teory, the void can warp reality where by all thing are consider cannon, but our physical perception of reality limit this possibility because two state cannot exist at the same time.
Eternalism is an actual philosophical idea that they just used for the game :p.
For anyone with questions, so basically everyone, this is my take:
The Drifter is from the probable reality where your Tenno Operator wasn’t spared and given void powers on the Zariman.
So basically the Drifter has been stuck in the void for an unknown amount of time, while the Operator was able to escape with void abilities back to the Origin system
Ballas says you can’t kill the Devil, but you can send it back to hell. Pretty sure what he means with this is: the Operator is the chimeral twin the Man in the Wall made for the Drifter. So basically you have a “real” Tenno that is the Drifter, and the “fake” Tenno that is the Operator.
The “fake” Tenno can’t die because it’s not real/corporeal. It’s a projection of the Drifter the moment he shook hands with the Man in the Wall in the cutscene. Think of the Operator as a clone who cannot age. The clone assumes the age that the original was at, when the clone was first made.
That’s why the Operator never ages, but the Drifter did. And also why the Operator has basically no memory of the Zariman incident also. The Operator was never there originally, _but the Drifter was_
The Operator is basically another Save File for the Drifter. The Drifter then stayed in Duviri in the Void (so many references to it throughout the quest, including the mask the Drifter wears in the Duviri reveal trailer)
But now here’s a better question: *MASSIVE OTHER SPOILER FOR CHARACTER DEATH*
With Teshin now dead, I wonder if we’ll see a chimeral version of him at some point later in the lore. Remember the Dax soldier on the Horse in Duviri Paradox trailer?
OH SHIT THATS A GOOD OBSERVATION OPERATOR!!
Oh that is such a cool possibility, hope DE takes it into account
Tenno age, we know that from chains of harrow, reason why we didnt age was explained in second dream and chains of harrow, the operator pods were cryopods.
The wait I see it is this:
At the beginning they talk about “Eternalism”, a theory that basically says that once an event occurs reality splits into however many outcomes there are, and while you only see one of those, they are theoretically interchangeable.
All those Tenno you see dropping dead or going insane at different intervals are all the different versions of how the deal with The Man in the Wall have gone wrong, leaving you with only two people, the Operator and the Drifter. The Operator is the future in which the Tenno were rescued from the void, the Drifter is the you from the future in which they weren’t, and since he’s still on the void, it allows it to replace the version of himself that was saved in his reality, but only replace, since you can’t have 2 of the same person in one reality.
@@nobody4y yeah, but those were the Tenno with their powers partially sealed/undiscovered. The Tenno of today can teleport around reality as long as there’s a transference conduit on the location. So we don’t really know the full capabilities of the Tenno.
The man on the desk
the man that has some connection to yo mamma
The Man *on* the Wall
The man is on the table
tiny desk engineer
The Man By The Arsenal
The lesson in the class said that through the Void, Eternalism is true, that a "thing will live/a thing will die" in symmetrical probability of existence. Essentially, when the human child on the Zariman Ten-Zero shook the hand of the embodiment of the Void, the now-Tenno gained this existence: cutting out the timelines where they died, by living in the Void and the Material at the same time. The lunch scene that happens in the quest is on the Zariman, which it isn't fully in the Void, as it was found drifting in the Origin System of the Material. Consider it the proverbial door in the wall, where Material meets Void. Both Void and Material existing at once in the same place creates a paradox (HINT HINT) of existence, as reality demands one constant to exist at a time. But when you have two realities that operate on different rules.....
Somehow, you managed to dumb this down enough that I could finally understand it (after like days of trying to figure it out.) for this, I salute you good sir
Yes!!! Well said!
"... creates a paradox (HINT HINT)"
*gasp~ A DUVIRI PARADOX!!
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M D
\ B L O /
\ \ W N / /
At least I finally found someone who pointed out that our Tenno achieved eternalism
The fact that this had to be dumb downed really shows that the new war and Duviri Paradox will/was/is one giant mindfuck
Once they make this replayable the soundtrack is going through the roofs
Mama lotus looking hella scary and powerful
Mama lotus looking like Xaku
Mama lotus tried to take a bite out of us to
@@jjcameron0096 well haven't played the quest, but probably we deserved it
@@limboprime4008 oh shi my bad bro I didn’t mean to spoil but you need to play it now it brought back so many memories and was just so bad ass
@@jjcameron0096 well you see i manage to spoil my ass a bit, but i am trying to keep my self spoiler free till monday then i can play it
My theory about scene with bunch of Operators dying - in Operator form, if you die, you actually don't die and Ballas said "devils can't be killed", so I thought maybe it's because everytime Operator dies, he's just replaced by Operator from another version of reality. So it's some sort of quantum immortality.
No ur way wrong
Perhaps? Maybe not? Operator just straight up dies, no replacements. Just go back in time, its like how SCP containment breach has that ending where they go
"D-Class just can't seem to fuckin' die in this hellmaze of litteraly 100% chance of death. Fucker probably died so many times or saw the future or some shit I DON'T FUCKIN' KNOW"
-SCP Foundation
Another version from another reality who remembers being “killed” and has no discrepancies in memory with the one it replaced? That seems really convoluted.
It’s already long established that Tenno can’t be killed because they possess Oro, which grants them immortality. To fully kill a Tenno, you have to both kill the body and steal/collect/destroy/whatever their oro to stop them from resurrecting.
@@fathergascoigne1457 not explaining why and source is trust me bro🤡
"Won't you shake a poor sinners hand?"
Yesssssssss
@@mrfrundles6173 Are you reaaady?!
That handshake with the man in the wall copy was how I immediately saw it, a deal with the devil to protect the kids of the Zariman
So, if I'm getting this right...
The Zariman acts as an intersection between different realities for our Character. This includes a branch where they made a deal with the Man in the Wall (the Tenno Operator), and a reality where they didn't (Drifter).
Since the Operator was kept on Lua, they've been in stasis, and haven't aged, whereas the Drifter has.
I can only guess that the Drifter finally found a way to escape the Zariman 10-0, but through interference by the Man in the Wall, they wandered into this timeline and not their own. MitW probably did this since his anchor in this reality, our Tenno Operator, was banished, and he had to ensure a way to stay connected to the material world.
Due to timey-wimey, Schrodinger wave-collapse-y reasons, the Drifter and Operator are causally linked in this reality, and we can choose only one or the other. In this scene, the Operator is essentially Transferring the Drifter, lending them their Void-empowered aid.
But I still don't quite understand why we see several versions of our Operator self keel over when they make the handshake.
more like dead after they have been copy pasted from the drifter and the MitW was looking for a stable one who is actually be able to exist, so thats where you come in, i think.
@@AndroidNoir-L06k or possible, these other ones dying are ones that didn't take the deal and perished, so essentially. They represent the tennis other possible choices that lead to their death.
I believe it was showcasing all the possible outcomes in the multiverse where the tenno refused the deal and died, with our tenno and the drifter the only two who came out of it alive, the tenno having taken the deal and the drifter surviving on their own after refusing the deal
@@r3ktl3ss20 bro! I found it, maybe. The "you" that die is actually the possibility of "your existence" like remember that lecture in zariman like " your parent well die, your parent well survive"? That "you" that's die is your possibility merging their essence with all the other possibility into one existence. Even the unum cannot anticipate your present because you are all that of your past, future and present at a constant. That's why you cannot age or die because you can choice your own will. The real you is in the void because you got to have backup in case thing got a little messy, like the one with ballas. In case you "die" and got cast into the void, somebody got to take your place.
Remember that time when you were in operator mode an a lucky grineer put a bullet through your squishy void empowered skull?
Or that other time when you were mauled by a infested charger?
Or cleaved in half by a butcher?
Or burned to a nice charred crisp by a moa's energy bolts?
Or beaten to death by a syndicate's thug?
Those are the operators keeling over
0:41 "this is the void, and you'll never reach the truth that is about to occur"
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For me when I played, the evil looking version of me was completely invisible, like their model didn't load, as was the drifter when you meet him as the operator on the Zariman for food and have to choose between them. It greatly confused me as I thought it was meant to be "the man in the wall", since it kept showing zoom ins on the literal wall lol
I didn't know better until I watched a lets play of it and went "oh, this completely changes the context"
2:00 omg the This is What You Are motif!!!
Shake my hand
Come on boys
Won't you shake the poor sinner's hand?
The funny thing to me is that because I played on Switch, sadly, very few things didn't load properly in my first time I played the New War which made the 2 cutscenes where the devil operator shows in the Zariman didn't load as if it was never there and it was just another hallucination from the Void. Which honestly looked kinda cool,
Until I got to choose between Drifter and operator, the Drifter didn't load in the entire cutscene not even during choosing.
There’s one thing bugging me on all of this, and I feel this cutscene shows it somehow: what does the the man in the wall get from us? We never saw what his side of the handshake was, just saying we had to want it.
We’ll probably see in the duviri paradox
He gets a gateway to our reality.
He becomes a physical being! Hip hip hooray! Don’t know how he’ll eat and drink tho
@@fryingpan7558 not proven that he wants to get out.
We don’t know. Too many unknowns. For all we know, what we see isn’t a single entity, but a void manifestation made when we enter the void, only seen by us.
We don’t even know if they’re an ally or an enemy. Only thing we know for sure, is through it, our Tenno achieved Eternalsm.
So it looks like at that moment the Drifter and the Operator switched places. Does that mean whenever the "operator" form is actually killed/"sent back to hell".
The drifter takes their place until they recharge/relive the Zariman event and shake hands with Manwal (Manwal is what I call the man in the wall)?
Since this is the first time the operator "died" they had no idea the Drifter existed or how to switch places with the Drifter. Now they can do it on command.
I don't get what happened after this scene though, where the Operator and the Drifter talk. Or why after that you are back in Space with your warframes after being in "Stasis".
I think it's just that the paradoxical nature of the void allows multiple timelines co exist. In most of the timelines, the operator dies in the void. In some they die when accepting manwal's "help". In one, operator is survives and is saved from the void. In another, they survive, but are stuck in the void (probably in duviri to be precise). When Ballas sends you to the "hell" (I think he actually means duviri), your operators actions in another timeline, help the drifter out of duviri, who then in turn also brings Lotus from there.
Manwal uses his abilities to connect their minds through a flashback and as operators can already warp long distances, they just switch places like with loki's switch teleport.
@@DissedRedEngie God, DE did a good job making Manwal feel helpful while simultaneously malevolent. Manwal has been helping us for awhile but it feels like fully trusting them would cause our downfall.
There could be a reason they keep wearing our face, but that "I just killed the neighbor's cat" smile makes me doubtful.
@@DissedRedEngie It's wrong to think of them as time"lines." There is only one universe with one time, but it is not a line - it is a timecube, and any given "now" is just a point inside that cube.
I've seen too many people saying that Warframe is going the multiverse route. That's not what Eternalism is (which is a real understanding of time in our real-life quantum physics) - it's smarter than a multiverse.
@@sitchreapotere1073 The cat in the box, 2 event colliding with each other at the same time.
They talk in operator's world's zariman ship
I was honestly kind of hoping that the Tenno sitting on the table was Rell from Chains of Harrow, and not the man in the wall. I feel really bad for him after going over the quest again I want him to have some justice
Rell is dead, we set him free in that quest. But ww might see a version of him in duviri
I thought it was rell at first but then i was disappointed
Yeah, I kept hoping, then remembered "oh right, canonically everyone including possibly our own tenno were dicks to him and he'd probably be hiding alone somewhere"
C'mon, don't shake hands with THE Man in the wall!!!
I wonder exactly what the catch was to this deal? So far in terms of the story, I haven’t seen any negative consequences of this Faustian Bargain.
We owe the Man In The Wall.
so maybe... just maybe.... when we are dying in the quest as an operator only..mode?... the short scene that operator fall into the void was the another reality that myself died at that moment and its the other operator continues on in other reality?
We are the operator who survived the incident and got void powers and the drifter was the one who couldnt but survived on his own
@@orochinagis nono... we are the operator AND the drifter at the sametime remember what we learned in the zariman 10-0cutscene? It said multiple reality can exist at the same time and theorarically accessible? So operator and drifter are the same being and accessing each other's universe. We are not just an operator. We also the drifter.
@@trollmaster6848 Almost... It's more like this:
We are the Operator. We are the Drifter.
There's no "and," because they are both 100% true.
@@sitchreapotere1073 Real shit homie fuckin' EXACTLY! Quiz question no.3, just schrodinger shit. Easy to understand.
If there is a game that can use time travel and multiverse well, it's this one.
We still ain't seen time travel yet
@@quantumblauthor7300That “yet” was definitely needed lol
@@tonio-yo2612in warfarme whisper of the walls albarich travels to 1999 so it’s thing now
0:41 THIS IS..... REQUIEM
when you want to za warudo the world but the requiem is thousand universe of step ahead of you.
Thanks for a high resolution and bitreit. Would be better if you add a scene with first acquaintance with the devil.
Man this just looks like when your big brother is being betting to death by your mom and you has the little brother is trying to save him
Bro? You going through some stuff at home?
please for the love of god, i still can't understand, didn't ballas fuckin stab the operator at the end of act 1, how is he still alive?
When he got stabbed and got sent into the portal, the man in the wall might have healed him or maybe the void itself healed him due to having void power and being in the void
So why did the drifter start working against ballas, where was he, getting healed?
@@strumf321 The Drifter is from the probable reality where your Tenno Operator wasn’t spared and given void powers on the Zariman.
So basically the Drifter has been stuck in the void for an unknown amount of time, while the Operator was able to escape with void abilities back to the Origin system
Ballas says you can’t kill the Devil, but you can send it back to hell. Pretty sure what he means with this is: the Operator is the chimeral twin the Man in the Wall made for the Drifter. So basically you have a “real” Tenno that is the Drifter, and the “fake” Tenno that is the Operator. The “fake” Tenno can’t die because it’s not real. It’s a projection of the Drifter the moment he shook hands with the Man in the Wall in the cutscene. That’s why the Operator never ages, but the Drifter did
@@kevinpaap2890 the operator is a screenshot of the drifter, thanks man that explains a bit of the things
@@strumf321 yeah Operator is just a screenshot, Drifter is the NFT lool
Rap tap tap
Will Riker and Thomas Riker, nice
For me he was invisible for some reason, i had a lot of issues loading in textures post-veilbreaker though
wish new war was replayable 😭😭
It will be just not yet
It is now.
Come on boy won't you shake a poor sinner hand 😂😂
Pov: you play on a old crt box tv
I cant run max graphics and my drifter was so similar to dreamer I notice they swapped when I did this.
Here everything looks decent except the hair, they didn't make good lighting for this hairstyle.
My operator had a scar so I knew instantly he was different
@@cjbladesworth8049 My operator didn’t have a jawline like my drifter so i instantly knew the difference lol.
i wonder what the ost @ 0:52
Devils from that other hell
But Who is this Evil me ?? i play all but i cant understand
Gomu gomu fruit so lotus is devil fruit user
Oh DE is going the 'Time Route' buckle up, things are gonna get weird.
the thing that doesn't make sense for me is.
if the Drifter refused the deal, how did he still get powers? he must have also accepted the deal, but still stranded in the void.
and why at that exact moment? like.. he should've already had it since the operator also had it. it makes no sense for me.
also why did the Drifter have the Lotus in the first place?
so many plot holes.
The Drifter said he/she doesn't have the void powers (yet). They only got the powers near the end at the final confrontation thing where you choose if you play as the Operator or Drifter for when you face Ballas. After that (including after finishing New War) the Drifter is being enhanced by the Operator when out, which is why DE made Drifter have the same powers (besides the Sirocco) after this.
Drifter accepted the deal. Just didin't get.
As they said "I didin't or atleast not yet" or something like that
@@FightingFoodonsFan well, technically, they modify the gun to act as an amp, but yeah. Void mode
so it's showing us dying over and over
I think it's meant to be Wally eliminating all the timelines where we die, and creating a Central Finite Curve of all the timelines where we're still alive.
It’s not the devil. It’s the man in the wall
Yeah I know. Why tf is everybody refering to it as devil? We're clearly the "Devil" here and Manwal is just....MAN W A L L
Fuckin' straight up cosmic horror, the unexplainable, no gods, no demons, just...
T h i n g
e x i s t
Only one to humble an Orokon mind, committing ritual suicide as a result.
Nice face animations...lmao
Yeah I'd say it's the weirdest part of this quest. It's pretty janky.
Fallout 4 flashback
I will never understand Warframe lore. I’ve accepted that it’s simply just one giant mess.