Old warframe really shows how they wanted to make a much grittier game from the start by the audio design. It's certainly gotten sleaker, softer and cleaner over the many years
@@Drakrylos Warframe, as of now, is trash in my opinion. They've removed all of the fun/competitive elements of it. Now it's just a buggy mess of a grinding simulator. Game had so much potential though. This is what happens when the dev team prioritizes "cute pets" and "fashionframe" and collectibles over actual gameplay.
@@torchbearer7533 Hate to break it to you, but Warframe was always a grinding simulator. And competitive? Warframe's a PvE game. The only thing "competitive" about it is the abandoned shitfest that is Conclave. And yeah, it has its bugs, a lot of games do. But I'm not gonna call the narrative behind the latest quests shit.
Even though they are place holders its almost as if it makes sense. Like these guys started off as these normal grineer then over time became what they are today. Like Hek or Regor.
LaGhettochicken well, think about this. the only bosses to completely change are the grinnear why is that? Because we are not fighting the originals anymore. in fact we never were. we've been fighting the clones. that's why the change makes sense
Jake Waters oh i see, thanks. i was gonna say "thats a relief" but honestly, not so much. Damn so far it seems like DE doesnt know how to make good boss battles with the exception of the one with a blue shield and rocket arms. (Last boss i defeated were the hyenas)
+Yung Venuz Does warframe want to be known as "the fun mmo game where you can one shot every boss easily as soon as you get the right weapons and mods so it becomes less fun later on because by then you can one shot every enemy in the game and you lose interest and delete the game"?
@@Heisenbub I know it's been 2 years, but your comment still made me mad because the wiki's page for the golem literally has "The Jordas Golem, also known as J3-Golem, is the Infested Boss of Eris." as it's first sentence.
This brings back so many memories. Old star chart, old placeholder bosses, mag being able to use crush to smash J3 Golem's legs so he couldn't move, and when abilities were mods not just built into a warframe... Damn, has it really been only three years?
My biggest complaint is not having the old voice lines as an option. Like "combat formation bravo". Or "leave my mother out of this". However, guaranteed BP boss drops... So nice
@@rafabuda0 Yes and no. The Sergeant used to be Nef Anyo, but that's the only actual change. Same boss fight, just underwent some good ol' Corpus Rebranding.
Sai Kisaragi Back in my day (update 19.20) I was a slova using telos Boltace with no maiming strike and relentless combo and I still reckted shit melee only
Well, to DE`s credit, their reworks of the bosses made them much more interesting, at least on the visual level. Still waiting for sensible Phorid and Sergeant, though.
so this was before vorr had his looks sargus ruk had his augments tyl regor was a great scientist vay hek replaced his entire body keila had an arena nef anyo became a lead figure of the corpus and the golem consumed an entire cephalon alad v made the zanuka so Lech krill, ambulas, jackal and hyenas havent changed at all for 3 years.
Violet Dirge raptor is forgettable. Only reason I remember ambulas is because he is that pitiful. Ambulas should be getting a rework soon along with the hyenas.
This was the good old days when they basically reused the old Dark Sector demo assets. You could tell they had something special going on. And then they turned Vay Hek into a fucking turkey. This game has only gotten better.
Interesting how some bosses remain unchanged, for the most part. Krill: harder to kill and in a different location but otherwise the same. Jackel: unchanged for a long time. Anyo: just renamed the sergeant. Phorid: still just a scaled-up charger but at least with the infested it makes more sense.
Obviously the change in visuals is pretty noticeable but the biggest sign of change was the evolution of the sound design, from dark gritty enemies to yelling obscenities in the midst of a firefight. It's really cool how the lotus has changed over time, from a picture that glows to a 3d model with much better voice acting from Rebecca. It's really neat to see how the vision for the game expanded into what it is today. Also somewhere in the game files the baton is still used just not on enemies.
I like how The Sergeant (Nef Anyo is now a character, but the boss is still the same with different name), Lech Kril and Phorid are the only ones that haven't changed. I remember the old Vay Hek, the 2nd stage Tyl Regor (not shown in this video), old Jackal of course, old Kela and old Ambulas. This video is from before I started Warframe since I came in at the end of 2013 on ps4 and they released the Nekros and Valkyr update after this because the Alad V and Lephantis boss fight are not here yet.
Wow everyone is talking about the change in models and all I’m concentrating on is how rough Reb’s original line reads are. She’s come a long way as an actor.
Weird to think how bosses just looked like generic footsoldoers at one point. Lech Kril and Kela De Thaym are the only grineer bosses who still resemble their modern designs.
I miss the old Lotus in-game transmissions. They felt more realistic, like you're on a super serious mission. Now I feel like someone is just talking in the background while I do the objective.
Five years later. And all of them got reworked into beasts Except for jackal because he's good as he is and Phorid wich is in a dire need for one since his body makes no sense at all
All the people in the comments talking about how nostalgic this video is but they were all commented 2 years after the video. It has now been nearly 6 years than most of these comments :)
Lotus sounds much better here. I'm not talking about sound quality, I'm talking about voice acting and she sounds more seriously engaged in mission and doesn't feel too lifeless at the same time.
Watching this, really makes me wonder, I took a huuuge gamble on sticking with this game and getting founders. Also I miss the old grineer talks. Also THOSE PURPLE DROP ORBS.
DKane V They were tech boss loots, before when you kill a boss, it wasn't a guaranteed drop, it was funny though since sometimes the loot drops off the map and well, their goes a part you might have needed xD
so this was warframe years ago, I just recently started playing, and I've gotta say, I love the old gun sounds better. especially the gorgon sound, it actually sounded like a 50 Cal or gatling gun.
Back when captain vor was basically capture but you can kill the target Now you have to wait for that stupid 1 hour of him going invulnerable and yapping
Wow, what a trip down memory lane, and it hasn't really been all that long. Though, I do miss the old Vor et al when they spoke in Grineer to us, as if we weren't even worth translating to. It gave a better setting, to me at least.
+Jokerstar6584 I think the vey hek we have now was always the planned design, and these enemies were just placeholders. Ambulas, Raptor, Kela De Thaym, and The Sergeant are still placeholders.
vay hek, tyl, vor, and sargrus ruk used to be . . EASY to kill ?! man you can really see how they expanded their character diversity it's so nice. Also rats on all those stalker marks xD
Bosses back then where more like simple capture now. If you are a high enough MR, then bosses are still like capture missions, but with a bit more difficulty
I got this game just this year, it's weird to think how Vor was a crab, and Ruk was just a big Lancer.. Now Vor's a darker crab with a pumpkin on his head and Ruk's a Transformer
Do u remember the old void with keys?) All these cool tactics for hours of survival. 9999 lvl of Stalker, dread which was the best bow :)) Hell, my eyes are pulling out some nostalgia
hmmmm, 10 years have passed already since the first time i have played warframe, with many other games, people have come and gone on the game, friends have gone off the game, others...well, they go off of life, the point is, a decade as passed and this video, brings back really good memories, when i was truly happy. i am 28 now, and life seems way darker today than 10 years ago.
Pretty happy to see that Kril's sorta the same. To think that Ambulas was *that* for the longest time until I think it was, Summer 2017? Boy, times have changed.
Ahhh I remember these. I remember the Gorgon and the Boltor being the most op weapons on game. I miss the old warframe but I do like some of the new things too.
Old warframe really shows how they wanted to make a much grittier game from the start by the audio design. It's certainly gotten sleaker, softer and cleaner over the many years
Right ? Feels more militaristic.
Probably because their previous game, Dark Sector, is much more grittier in terms of gameplay than current warframe.
i miss the grittiness
It's was more...real
Most games back in 2007-2011 were of the gritty genre, it was honestly over saturated.
It's crazy to think just how far Warframe has come now, especially when compared to this.
Yeah; shit , with the new update! Miss the good old times!
You mean how absolutely trash it has become? Then yeah, it's come a long way. Lol
@@torchbearer7533 Trash? If you wanna see something going from good to trash, look at Halo
@@Drakrylos Warframe, as of now, is trash in my opinion. They've removed all of the fun/competitive elements of it. Now it's just a buggy mess of a grinding simulator. Game had so much potential though.
This is what happens when the dev team prioritizes "cute pets" and "fashionframe" and collectibles over actual gameplay.
@@torchbearer7533 Hate to break it to you, but Warframe was always a grinding simulator.
And competitive? Warframe's a PvE game. The only thing "competitive" about it is the abandoned shitfest that is Conclave.
And yeah, it has its bugs, a lot of games do. But I'm not gonna call the narrative behind the latest quests shit.
Even though they are place holders its almost as if it makes sense. Like these guys started off as these normal grineer then over time became what they are today. Like Hek or Regor.
LaGhettochicken well, think about this. the only bosses to completely change are the grinnear why is that? Because we are not fighting the originals anymore. in fact we never were. we've been fighting the clones. that's why the change makes sense
Deo Saimon mind = blown
Suddenly AMBULAS
Deo Saimon suddenly everything makes sense
except for The Sergeant
Anyone else thinking how the fuck did they think to change vay hek so drastically
+Aphestus Norm HE CHANGED HIMSELF. HE MADE SACRIFICES TENNO
ARE YOU READY FOR A SACRIFICE???
:D
Yesh
same
CLEM!
i think that wa supposed to be lephantis
The J3 Golem now is like an infested living base that is the size of a space ship.
It's so annoying. So hard to kill.
+JC is it?
+JC just use corrosive projection and he will be weaker, and if all the 4 players have it you will be able to 500 damage whit the default archwing gun
I got atlas already its ok now
+Marco Figueiredo
I personally just used the rail gun. Easily solo'd it
*waits for nef anyo* BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT! Lotus: They wont be bothering us anymore.
LOL
***** Afuris
That Guy dread
Back then having two of something meant something
Especially if it's a furis
lol
The first quote from Vor is now used by Nef Anyo...
That quote basically says:"i'm the easiest boss to defeat"
The Fizio Never expected seeing you here
Or the Sargent lately
The Fizio i dont know who that is, but if he is easier than the sergeant i swear to god...
the sergeant used to be called nef anyo.
Jake Waters oh i see, thanks.
i was gonna say "thats a relief" but honestly, not so much.
Damn so far it seems like DE doesnt know how to make good boss battles with the exception of the one with a blue shield and rocket arms. (Last boss i defeated were the hyenas)
Oh the feels.The nostalgia. Dem old corpus sounds, them old bosses and the old HUD. I miss it all.
YES!
Jh Lee All Hail To Sargas Ruk General of the Grinner forces
+Jh Lee i do too
sad face :(
I don't miss it at all XD
DUNKINGxOR3O - me too
When people ask why bosses keep getting invincibility phases, I will link them to this video with the postscript "This. This is why"
+TARINunit9 because you can oneshot bosses if youre overleveled for them?
invincibility phases are fucking stupid
+Yung Venuz
Does warframe want to be known as "the fun mmo game where you can one shot every boss easily as soon as you get the right weapons and mods so it becomes less fun later on because by then you can one shot every enemy in the game and you lose interest and delete the game"?
Normally I wouldn't resort to deleting people's comments, but you two need to grow the fuck up
***** hahahaha, sad little man
***** Just stop white-knighting and let us have our verbal assault over a dumb game mechanic
wow, j3 golum was just a defult infested walker back then, now its a space elephant
RAG DOLL ur talking about jordas golem this is j3 golem
@@Heisenbub I know it's been 2 years, but your comment still made me mad because the wiki's page for the golem literally has "The Jordas Golem, also known as J3-Golem, is the Infested Boss of Eris." as it's first sentence.
@@Heisenbub yeah im with dstrx here, the jordas golem and the j3 golem are the same fuckin thing
back when kril was the only boss with a unique design
Now Pretty much every boss has a unique design
No he is perfect.
Lech Kril is still the same
This brings back so many memories. Old star chart, old placeholder bosses, mag being able to use crush to smash J3 Golem's legs so he couldn't move, and when abilities were mods not just built into a warframe... Damn, has it really been only three years?
Id like some features from older days back, but the game is stillgreat.
My biggest complaint is not having the old voice lines as an option. Like "combat formation bravo". Or "leave my mother out of this".
However, guaranteed BP boss drops... So nice
Galen Marek it is
Well now it's been 8 years, feel old yet?
@@ChorfTV no
just comes to show how far DE has come. saddens me that clem was a model for vay hek
"The creature has grown unfathomably strong," *SLAUGHTERED IN 2 SECONDS*
And Phorid is still the same after 8 years.
Same with The Sergeant
@@rafabuda0 Yes and no. The Sergeant used to be Nef Anyo, but that's the only actual change. Same boss fight, just underwent some good ol' Corpus Rebranding.
I don't think Phorid needs a change, it's kind of like an alpha infested, so it suits that look.
" _Back in my day, the Akfuris sounded badass and didn't do fuckall/per second as dps._ "
Sai Kisaragi Back in my day (update 19.20) I was a slova using telos Boltace with no maiming strike and relentless combo and I still reckted shit melee only
Back in my day, people didnt hate Mirage + Synoid Simulor!
@@calmaxys3114 OK boomer
@@gerryadams7448 Nice necro just to make a bad joke in response to another bad joke
@@gerryadams7448 ok zoomer
*BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTT*
I READ THAT RIGHT AS THEY STARTED FIRING LMAO
holy shite THIS WAS 7 YEARS AGO?!?!? As a new player from 2021 I can officially say that they really have come a long way.
Yea my reaction aswell. I just started two months ago, and have completed the Star chart.
wtf, and people say Warframe is shit now
Costosky It is, they add pointless shit to make missions longer and the grind worse.
and this video make me nostalgic....like this bug with doors or the first mission in the void :')
the only time I would call this game shit is when I have to farm for fucking 15 Nitain
TemplarsDesign 15 nitain isn't shit compared to 8,000 oxium.
all these old bosses are just recolored versions of normal enemies lmao
Well, to DE`s credit, their reworks of the bosses made them much more interesting, at least on the visual level. Still waiting for sensible Phorid and Sergeant, though.
Commenting 4 years later and still waiting. Jackal got an update though, so I guess it's only a matter of time.
I am convinced they think the sergeant is good like this. Like look how the grineer got their own themes and settings now. But no sergeant is good
Except for Vay Hek. Fuck that guy
ahh the old warframe i remember earrape lotus voice no moveable loading ships so much nostalgia and dat captain vor face
The old star chart... Aaaa memories.
Except kela. shes still the same
and porid /poroid
+Abraham Serrano Montes phorid*
+Theflyingdog yeah sorry
And the jackel
you forgot Lech krill, all that changed with him was the location
Kril forgot how to use a hammer. 3:13
lol hammer shot :D
Why is he holding his hammer when he should be holding his Gorgon
@@SmilingSekiro glitch
Haha
so this was before
vorr had his looks
sargus ruk had his augments
tyl regor was a great scientist
vay hek replaced his entire body
keila had an arena
nef anyo became a lead figure of the corpus
and the golem consumed an entire cephalon
alad v made the zanuka
so Lech krill, ambulas, jackal and hyenas havent changed at all for 3 years.
Also the raptor was added in somewhere along the line. And then reworked.
Violet Dirge raptor is forgettable. Only reason I remember ambulas is because he is that pitiful. Ambulas should be getting a rework soon along with the hyenas.
Stan Cipher, Ambulas rework is confirmed (check most recent devstream)
Stan Cipher, Ambulas rework is confirmed (check most recent devstream)
Den Bond yeah I heard
Gosh it's been so long I've almost forgotten about all these old sound effects. The radio effect on Lotus comms just tickles my ears.
This was the good old days when they basically reused the old Dark Sector demo assets. You could tell they had something special going on.
And then they turned Vay Hek into a fucking turkey. This game has only gotten better.
Tyl regor officially creeps me the hell out now lol, the only grineer I've seen that sounds so intelligent AND menacing 😆
Interesting how some bosses remain unchanged, for the most part. Krill: harder to kill and in a different location but otherwise the same. Jackel: unchanged for a long time. Anyo: just renamed the sergeant. Phorid: still just a scaled-up charger but at least with the infested it makes more sense.
Obviously the change in visuals is pretty noticeable but the biggest sign of change was the evolution of the sound design, from dark gritty enemies to yelling obscenities in the midst of a firefight. It's really cool how the lotus has changed over time, from a picture that glows to a 3d model with much better voice acting from Rebecca. It's really neat to see how the vision for the game expanded into what it is today. Also somewhere in the game files the baton is still used just not on enemies.
J3- Golem Lmao
Bubba Two-Toes From tiny puke to
ELEPHANTS IN SPACE
Eat Mor Vegetal yeah for a second I said "WHAT FUCKING GOLEM"
Ikr
“centuries of absorption” and it’s that small
Him: generic exploder infested
Now: tanky space moth of plague
Look how far we've went. From this, to New War.
I like how The Sergeant (Nef Anyo is now a character, but the boss is still the same with different name), Lech Kril and Phorid are the only ones that haven't changed. I remember the old Vay Hek, the 2nd stage Tyl Regor (not shown in this video), old Jackal of course, old Kela and old Ambulas. This video is from before I started Warframe since I came in at the end of 2013 on ps4 and they released the Nekros and Valkyr update after this because the Alad V and Lephantis boss fight are not here yet.
0:42 I heard "memes inbound" and now I cannot unhear it
Wow everyone is talking about the change in models and all I’m concentrating on is how rough Reb’s original line reads are. She’s come a long way as an actor.
Your actions have consequences...
Youve marked me twice for jackal and nef anyo and u havent come after me for either yet so im marked twice over.
Weird to think how bosses just looked like generic footsoldoers at one point. Lech Kril and Kela De Thaym are the only grineer bosses who still resemble their modern designs.
I miss the old Lotus in-game transmissions. They felt more realistic, like you're on a super serious mission. Now I feel like someone is just talking in the background while I do the objective.
this video should go to a museum
Five years later. And all of them got reworked into beasts
Except for jackal because he's good as he is and Phorid wich is in a dire need for one since his body makes no sense at all
I love how the old space mom sounds like something you'd hear in a N64 game 😅
I really miss the old transmission voice filters. I wish we still had that 'radio' feel when Lotus talks to us.
When warframe powers used to drop as mods and you needed to farm then to get the others. Ahh man... nostalgia
it's almost 9 years man...
All the people in the comments talking about how nostalgic this video is but they were all commented 2 years after the video. It has now been nearly 6 years than most of these comments :)
Lotus sounds much better here. I'm not talking about sound quality, I'm talking about voice acting and she sounds more seriously engaged in mission and doesn't feel too lifeless at the same time.
I like how old Ambulas is just the world's angriest MOA
Watching this, really makes me wonder, I took a huuuge gamble on sticking with this game and getting founders.
Also I miss the old grineer talks.
Also THOSE PURPLE DROP ORBS.
+Xuimma Sleeping tears dropped when i saw those orbs
the jordas raid still has them
+Xuimma Sleeping What purple orbs? I'm a console Tenno, so I've never seen them
DKane V They were tech boss loots, before when you kill a boss, it wasn't a guaranteed drop, it was funny though since sometimes the loot drops off the map and well, their goes a part you might have needed xD
+Xuimma Sleeping Watch vor loot today : cronus bp is a purple orb
they will change ambulas drastically soon arent they...(all enemies went from looking as normal enemies to a freakin beast)
Yeah, just look at Vay Hek
William Tjandra look at kela tayim ... hyenas....holy fuck
Galen Marek j3 golem to a giant citadel
and nef anyo
William Tjandra i came from the future. ambulas has their rework. and they all look like a terminator machine
The Sergeant really needs a good rework, he's literally just an enlarged crewman
so this was warframe years ago, I just recently started playing, and I've gotta say, I love the old gun sounds better. especially the gorgon sound, it actually sounded like a 50 Cal or gatling gun.
Lmao I like how the Ambulaus before is just a Black Moa while the one we have now is buffed version of it.
And... Kela is still just a bigger ballista
Look at the bitch now. She has rockets, annoying rollers, roller turrets, airstrikes, target shooting, and is twenty feet tall.
they need to bring back that landing roll @0:57
I love this lotus voice, and the sound of it coming through a mic
Back when captain vor was basically capture but you can kill the target
Now you have to wait for that stupid 1 hour of him going invulnerable and yapping
Man did things change.Now if only Nef Anyo had an actual boss
Burrito Wyrm im starting to think there are two nef anyos altough the index nef was also corpus
_Ballas: my turn._
Glad to see they decompressed Lotus by a ton. I can barely tell what she’s saying here.
You know for all the shit we give bosses, they have come along way. I mean, look at Phorid- wait....
I miss the old sounds and atmosphere. I love Warframe in its current incarnation, but part of me will always love its old charm.
Wow, what a trip down memory lane, and it hasn't really been all that long.
Though, I do miss the old Vor et al when they spoke in Grineer to us, as if we weren't even worth translating to. It gave a better setting, to me at least.
But then we wouldnt hear WHY ARE THESE FOOLS S T I L L BREATHING M Y AAAAIIIRRR
Seeing Tyl Regor, Vay Hek, Nef Anyo, as just... Normal guys, it's so weird xd
yes
9 years has passed but they finally released the furis prime
Love out of all these, the only boss that left unchanged until today is Lech Kril, Phorid, and Sergeant Not Nef Anyo.
look at that vay hek and then look at vay hek now xD
Wow, what a diferenc3
I know right XD
Vor used to look really weird
Vor used to look really weird
+Jokerstar6584 I think the vey hek we have now was always the planned design, and these enemies were just placeholders. Ambulas, Raptor, Kela De Thaym, and The Sergeant are still placeholders.
Back when warframe had "fuck around and find out" in it's gameplay
my god this brings back so many memories, just the old sounds, and staticy sound of Lotus' voice is so nostalgic
Sergent Anyo, Phorid, and Lech Kril are still the same after all this time.
vay hek, tyl, vor, and sargrus ruk used to be . . EASY to kill ?! man you can really see how they expanded their character diversity it's so nice. Also rats on all those stalker marks xD
0:24 oh my god, that nostalgic 'who's the baobab' i was looking for......... ;_;
Lieutenant Lech Kril and Phorid still look that same after all these years.
Bosses back then where more like simple capture now. If you are a high enough MR, then bosses are still like capture missions, but with a bit more difficulty
I got this game just this year, it's weird to think how Vor was a crab, and Ruk was just a big Lancer..
Now Vor's a darker crab with a pumpkin on his head and Ruk's a Transformer
This video screams old times so loud...
Bosses that are simply bigger and stronger enemies, no parkour 2.0, Someone used Banshee ecc...
1:53 So this is why Tyl Regor teleports. This guy jumped him real good before he could realize what happened
So much improvement!
"They are small but lethal"-Lotus
I love seeing how much this game has changed.
The game has come a long long way
Hello kids, back then we were actually ninjas ;)
Wow crazy to see how much it’s all changed
1:23 damn i wish i could play that tile, it looks cool
It looks like a really old game... and now it looks amazing, DE really knows how to improve their game
Old mod pick up animation was so fulfilling. And also the level up sound. I miss those
When Phorid used to be the hardest boss
i love how neither the nef fight nor phorid has changed and DE still wants to focus on openworlds
I love these videos because they show just how much warframe has evolved. It makes me so proud! ;u;
Do u remember the old void with keys?) All these cool tactics for hours of survival. 9999 lvl of Stalker, dread which was the best bow :)) Hell, my eyes are pulling out some nostalgia
Back when it was simple. :)
Its changed so much space ships more frames eoic powers. EPIC STORY EPIC EBERYTHING!!!
hmmmm, 10 years have passed already since the first time i have played warframe, with many other games, people have come and gone on the game, friends have gone off the game, others...well, they go off of life, the point is, a decade as passed and this video, brings back really good memories, when i was truly happy.
i am 28 now, and life seems way darker today than 10 years ago.
Nostalgic. Game improved in a lot of ways since then, but some of the awesome old sound effects and gore animations went away over the time.
Nostalgia, but damn stuff has improved a lot since then.
Phorid and the sergreant still haven't changed much...
I like how most of these are just normal enemy models
Pretty happy to see that Kril's sorta the same. To think that Ambulas was *that* for the longest time until I think it was, Summer 2017? Boy, times have changed.
That afuris sounds so fucking good tho
Im pretty sure Lt Lech Kril is the only boss with its own special model
aaahh, the infamous "combat formation bravo" time
Ahhh I remember these. I remember the Gorgon and the Boltor being the most op weapons on game. I miss the old warframe but I do like some of the new things too.
Gorgon used to be OP????
those afuris are ridiculous
and loud
Imagine it on the dex furis
*****
imagine it on the Akz-o right those arent loud at all
QuantemDeconstructor It wasn't about being loud, it was about insane fire rate. And the dex furis wind up like the soma. So yeah.
***** ah, yeah, the Akzani would work then, probly use whatever the pistol equivalent of Vile Acceleration, Gunslinger, and Lethal Torrent