Logic Pro Quick Sampler, Granular Synthesis & New Features
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Logic Pro X 10.5 has a new sampler and a more simple quick sampler. Today we talk about the 10.5 update for Logic. Furthermore we create a granular patch with the Quick Sampler by attaching 2 LFOs to various parameters like; loop position, sample start, loop start, loop end etc.
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I also think individual Slice control would be great, like reverse and pan and...etc. I really hope they will add this features in near future updates.
Yeah, me too. I know it would require the sampler to re-render all the slices as separate audio clip instances (objects). In order for the sample to reverse (pan, volume, pitch, stretch...further editing etc.) But it's doable...but require more processing. Quick sampler is....quick sampler indeed. ;) Thanks for writing RS Patel!
That’s what was hopping for .....
@@issiewizzie Hi Issie, good to see ya! ;D Hope all is well!
Mattias Holmgren all is well my friend...These are testing times for all so we are all grateful for what you guys are doing
My guess is that the things you’re asking for can be sorted via the Drum Machine Designer, based on the Quick Sampler, then worked with rack sample once a loop is sliced. But yes, will be good if those features make it in the Sampler. Nice one! I have a question for you, later.
Congrats! See you for the first time. Superb quality as far as the video quality is concerned, but also the contents.
Welcome aboard! The feedback is much appreciated Willi! Are you a Logic Pro X user Willi? Looking forward to hear your thoughts or questions on my other videos. Wish you a wonderful and bright friday!
Thank you so much for taking your time to answer.
Yes, I‘m a (meanwhile) Logic Pro 10.5 - User, in fact more beginner than advanced.
Of course I will also watch other videos of you.
Superb Willi, Logic is a great platform and very user friendly. Looking forward to see you around. Today is very sunny in Sweden. Hope you are having awesome weather and creative flow! 🌞
I made a nice granular sound yesterday by dragging a region containing one note into a new track header and selecting Alchemy (granular). There are extensive controls to manipulate the sample, add effects, add other sounds and then save the result as an Alchemy patch. (This is the first video of yours that I’ve seen so apologies if you’ve already covered this in others)
Hi Richard, thanks for watching. Indeed I have done plenty of Alchemy and Logic tutorials. Looking forward to hear what you think of my other videos. Hope they are helpful & inspiring to some extent. Cheers!
Great video Mattias
Thanks Caue, did you check out the update Logic Pro X 10.5 app or are you running other DAW? See you in the next live stream Caue! ;D
Mattias Holmgren yes I updated yesterday! In love with it! Quick question. I heard that logic 10.5 now automatically adjust the tempo of your samples to the tempo of your project (Like Ableton). Do you know if it is true and how it works?
Wow that flume feel
Oh yeah? Cool ;)
great video
Thanks Peek! ☀️🔆
Thank you for the video, Mattias! Although don't have any Mac in my park, but there's much noise around Logic 10.5 release last couple of weeks, so it's so interesting to see your opinion a little bit)
I personally think, that all this things added with the influence by some other DAWs is actually good, as one as a musician always has a range of DAWs to choose now, but more or less similar functionality help all of us using sort of the same approaches and patterns.
You always say, that you usually work in different DAWs depending on the project, so do you maybe already feel, that certain new features in Logic would convince you to spend more time in it? Maybe, there were some scenarios you had to do in other DAWs and now it's possible in Logic.
From my quite biased "Bitwig for everything", hah, point of view, I can just be glad, that in terms of new features there's probably all already there in Bitwig, and yes, such a releases of some gear I'm not really going to use often inspire me to turn to my instruments and look what nice things is possible there. So yes, anyway it's good :)
Have a nice weekend, Mattias! Happily I'm a little bit back to my music projects now, again, but it seems to be easier to work on them now. Hopefully, I'll manage to release this music spare time share even more :) I wish you more creative vibes, more inspiration also with your projects! So happy for you, that you're in the mood to play the piano mainly, I'm a little bit on the other side - somehow working with plugins goes better for me, than playing the piano, but yes, hopefully your studio projects will also get their love very soon! :) Have a nice time, mate!
Hi Alexey, good to hear from you. This new Logic update 10.5 really is a game changer for many producers indeed. As you mention its a big step towards making another DAW closer to the competition. If only Studio One implemented a similar pattern / clip Launcher, all my favourite DAWs are basically the same.. Well not the same completely but in what main features they offer. I still like the fresh Jump from time to time. It demands a bit more from me, its like a fresh challenge. I like it alot, thats why I juggle multiple DAWs. Logic was always on my top there list and now more than ever. I still will play the other ones, as they do still have different native plugs and features which differ. Its all good.
Glad to hear you are inspired to dig into new musical adventures. Looking forward to hear it. 😀
Today is the first real summer day here in the northern Sweden. We have around 17 celcius in the shadow and me and my girlfriend is working on the porch. Hopeful and inspired by the sun! I am painting a lot at the evenings. Acrylics. Lovely times.
Have a creative day my friend. Hope to see you in the next livestream.
@@MattiasHolmgren Thank you very much, Mattias! Absolutely, it's nice idea sometimes to dive into the world of another DAW, not only nice portion of experience, but also new approaches and inspirations. I have no possibility to do it, until all the rest of majors will add GNU/Linux support, haha, but I like this idea.
Oh, I'm so excited and glad about your working process almost outside - "Another day on the terrace" as one track plays :) Do you also really play some background chill-out music? I'm sure you do :) Nice, nice! Have a nice and productive days this way! I really hope it would last as long, as possible. It's only getting warmer now near Moscow, today it's 15 °C, but before it was almost as cold, as in the winter, especially this year =) Little snow even.
Will definitely take a look at the UA-cam announcements from time to time - you know, it's always a quest for me to be in time for livestreams :) In fact, I noticed your previous one being on air, but was in a rush finishing my work that night, so had to miss... But yes, will check them out!
Great features here for granular synthesis. It's time for Kontakt to make these features more accessible without having to get into scripting..
Hi Heinrich, yeah I love this update. Hehe, yeah Kontakt have been my goto sampler for many years. But indeed, some features are only accessible in full via scripting. The interface / UI UX could do with an overhaul. I am glad Apple finally made gave some vector UI love to the sampler area of Logic. With the new clip launching it also made Logic a good choice for up coming DJs and arranging fun. 😋 I am still more of an arrangement Producer though. Thanks for watching & writing Heinrich.
Pls make a tutorial on dubstep growls in alchemy! :D
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@@MattiasHolmgren still remember apple growl from the live stream xD
😋 Lol. Ill be growling. 🦊
Native Instruments issued a warning that a few of their plug ins might crash Logic Pro 10.5; primarly Massive and Massive X
Yep, I read Replika XT etc was effected too. But during my tests I didn't try those out. Fortunately, I think NI are always quick to cover these issues. We always have Delay Designer and Tape Delay until that. ;D
it's fixed now
It's been fixed now!!
very nice :-)
Thanks Hexachords! Glad you enjoy my videos! ;D
try this same sample instrument with the new free massive reverb from valhalla, it would sound awesome! enjoy!
Yes, the Valhalla reverbs are all excellent tools! Especially when the Massive Reverb is free. ;)
Nice features, it looks like they looked a lot to Bitwig.
Hi Jason. Indeed it looks like Logic finally implemented the features we miss from Ableton & Bitwig Studio. 😋🌞
is it better to do granular synthesis through alchemy or sampler?
Alchemy has more options for granular playback of audio. It was just a fun test to do it with sampler. 😀 Thanks Ricky.
Bitwig deserves the same Logic Pro X pattern editor
Yeah, that would be wonderful to merge some features of Logic into Bitwig. 🌞😋
Hej! Har letat överallt på nätet men inte hittat något svar. I Logic pro x file browser. Wav-filer spelas upp normalt när jag inte har låten igång, men så fort jag spelar projektet så kommer inget ljud från wav-filerna när jag knappar mig ner bland samplingarna. Ibland kommer det en sample som jag klickade på för några sekunder sedan, men oftast inget ljud alls. Vad är det för fel? Är inte browsern bättre att man kan höra samtidigt som man spelar låten, eller är det något fel på mina inställningar.
Hi Peter, while having a track / project playing -> If you use the regular Logic Loop Browser library the audio files will play back accurately and in sync with your project. BUT if you use the regular file Browser of Logic the .wav files from your storage will not play (sometimes play). It looks like a bug indeed. Maybe it has something to do with how Logic tries to fit (remap) the tempo of the .wav files to playback against project target bpm (which it does with the Apple Loop Browser files). It seems like they missed to fix this (or maybe exclude stretching / tempo mapping) in the regular File Browser. We just want to play back the files RAW from the storage. ;D
That said, I never use the regular file browser of Logic. I rather always use FINDER to search for samples and drag them into Logic when I find something that sounds nice. In Finder just press space on a sound file, then use the arrow keys to walk through your folder. But Apple should fix this issue.
Maybe you should file this issue as a bug report to Apple support?
Cheers, Mattias
Tusen tack! / Yes I should make a bug report. The finder dosnt work in full screen mode, and also the point with preview-channel (hidden in the mixer) is to change volym and even play the files with effects. Now I know its a bug then. Thank you!
Did you return your Nektar T-Series?
Hi David, nope I do use the Nektar T4 or the Komplete Kontrol S61 when Recording more elaborate piano or string parts (off the video screen). When doing tutorial videos I want a tight setup so I can work quickly with a Light setup. Cheers!
When I try to do granular, depending on the length of the loop point, the pitch changes..is this a common problem ?
Yes, granular synthesis is about playing small fragments of a wavefile, each fragment has an envelope and slight offset startpoint. But if you have a static length and start to lower the length. If it gets into small cycles of the wavefile you get pitched content. The smaller loop length, the higher the pitch (as faster cycle repetitions result in higher pitch). So that is indeed the case when shortening the loop length.
It becomes a synth oscillator when it goes into single cycle territorium. Which can be good if your granular sample content is not steady pitch through out.
I like to have a piano patch on a second track and tune the granular instrument to the piano so I know it stays in pitch.
@@MattiasHolmgren So when you tune the granular instrument, do you do it by adjusting the loop length ? or tune it by the pitch ?
Is there a way to make logic automatically adjust the pitch regularly ? So if I play the C note, I get the C note..
@@Bigjuggs64 I mostly tune granular instruments via pitch. Since I mostly work with sound sources that are already in pitch. But the sample (wavefile) used might be a flute instrument playing a note of G so I repitch the instrument so it's mapped according to the keyboard layout. Which means when I play a C the granular instrument will generate a C...and not a G. ;)
If the sound source is all over the place with pitch I often work with just a small portion of the sound source which has a pretty steady pitch. So set the loop length very small and don't let the play start-offset travel so far that your playback gets out of tune. Sometimes it's very easy to work with the source material. And sometimes it require more work.
Hope the info helps.
@@MattiasHolmgren Thank you for your answer ! it helped me a lot..
Can I ask you some other question as well ?
I saw you have the Digitakt, but do you use it with Logic ? if you do, how do you use it ?
Because I also wanted the Digitakt but I couldn't justify it because I think the logic sampler is powerful enough so it wouldn't be needed..
what about granular in bitwig?
I did quite a few videos on granular in Bitwig Studio. I think this is one of them: ua-cam.com/video/LODo9-_I_Lk/v-deo.html
@@MattiasHolmgren yes i know, i got "the mangle" (from your recommendations) i really want to see how does the build in bitwig granular will sound
Awesome Bacharu, The Mangle rocks. And Bitwig sampler is quite capable of rendering cool granular sounds too.
The easiest way to do a granular synthesis in Logic sampler is to go to Logic Pro X menu on top and choose “Close project without Saving”. Then you have to open Bitwig and use its sampler more suited for job. Profit.
Hehe, Aleksandr, yeah that's one way of doing it. Though the Alchemy synth within Logic Pro X is very capable of granular synthesis too. I like both DAWs. 🌞
you need a bigger keyboard!! =)
My friend, I have one keyboard for every finger. ;D But in these videos I want a tight setup so I can work swiftly. Off video I use either Komplete Kontrol S61 mk2 or an Nektar Panorama T4.
@@MattiasHolmgren =)
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