One thing I like about the VQ is that because of the greater displacement you can achieve the same hp levels with less boost, good for reliability and longevity.
Exactly!!! He said himself he modified his VQ the wrong way & never got it right of course he going to chose 3.0 lol would his opinion be different if he supercharged or TT the VQ in the first place ?? I think it would! VQ is going to be more reliable in the long run period I'm sorry I just can't agree with him!! Its VQ all day 💯💯
@@EnthusiastPOV I think if you go that high, to 650 hp, there's no way to avoid a significant loss of reliability/longevity in that engine. Nissan states that you can go as high as 450 crank hp without needing to do any strengthening mods, so we may be looking at about a 5 psi boost level in manifold pressure as a limit for an engine that's to have a long life.
Got a '17 Red Sport TwinTurbo. I've added a Burger cold intake, + a special MagnaFlow exhaust, then did an optimized Tune that maximizes overall Boost. A few other mods that I wont go into...but my RedSport TT now is pumping out closer to 500hp to the wheel so you can figure out the torque figures yourselves. Im a Porsche guy who has a GT2 RS so I get it; this Infi Q60RedSportTT is now a beast and the best daily driver I have. Better than my Targa and thats hard for me to say.
Agreed 100%, I had both platforms as well the 3.0 is def a better daily driver with all the extra torque and down low power. But, the 3.7 revs and goes stronger at highway speeds.
Simple Vq37 more reliable, longer history than VR literally bulletproof, makes good power out of factory but expensive to mod even with tune you won’t push over 400hp with full bolt ons maybe if you build the internals you can get close to 400hp but it’s so limited unless you boost but that can get very expensive as well. VR Well it’s a newer engine, not as reliable, heatsoaking but makes great power when modded. It still has a long way to go and it’s going to get better or worst who knows. Also expensive to mod you for the money you make better power than the VQ with just simple bolt ons.
I’m on the other side of the spectrum w my NA V8 on my FBO ISF. I love this car, but I’m looking at the q60 for my next car in a couple of years and I like to do my research beforehand (Did 2 years of research before pulling the trigger on the F). It was between the Q60RS and the RCF, but after reading up on the 3.0 engine and then coming to your videos, the RS is no longer in one of my choices, now between the 3.0 vs RCF, but with the money savings from the 3.0, I can use to match (if not exceed) the RCF’s 460 horse. And still have a good amount of money leftover. So thank you again for sharing your experience! If all goes through well, it’ll be my first Infiniti.
I have a stock '15 Q60 redsport. I havent put a single mod on it yet. My favorite thing is driving down the freeway at 60 and putting it to the floor and being at 120 in 2.5 seconds and watching the cars that were next to you become dots in the mirror
You're a fucking idiot, first year of the new Q60(non G37 body) was 2017, and the first year of the Q50 was 2016 and neither one, no matter what model will do 60-120 in anywhere near 2.5 seconds, it takes a C7 ZR1 corvette over double that time to do 60-120. If we're talking KM/H then maybe, but you're obviously full of shit and thought no one would notice so no point in even caring at this point.
@@NALOW84 so dipshit, i put a video up on my channel just for you. Also you have to be told dipshit to think that I wasnt just fucking saying numbers. I said 2.5 sec cause 1.5 wasnt available. Ass. Hurry up and go check it out soon so you feel like a total dipshit in front of everybody for not knowing shit
I went from a N54 e92 335i coupe to a VQ37VHR G37 coupe and I actually like the VQ better because of reliability and I think it drives better even though the N54 FBO was fast, I still havent modified the G37 yet tho but I like the stock version better then stock 335i for sure now I'm curious to see how it drives with a supercharger then I'll get a better perspective
That would be a great setup, but it would kick the GT-R's ass and Nissan would lose sales on it. Actually, I think a great setup for the Z would be to stick with a lightweight N/A V-6, or V-8, and go for a displacement increase to get hp levels to about 400 at the crank. I like the greater simplicity, reliability and lower weight of a N/A engine. Nissan did a great job in producing a very efficient and sophisticated V-6 in making the VQ37VHR, they could continue the refinement process on it for the next gen Z.
@@videomaniac108 that costs just as much as slapping on a twin turbo kit or supercharger kit and the resulting power upgrade will not be as much. It will be a better drive though. There are so many charged kits for the vq37 that are simple to install it makes life easy.
Does anyone know which used Q60 models come with Paddle Shifters? Even if they're not the best I would like to have them coming from I drive a manual transmission right now. (NON RED SPORT)
@@EnthusiastPOV What kind of aftermarket solutions? If I have someone make me a custom wheel, which I may be doing anyways, could I add in paddle shifters?
I just bought a 2017 rwd 3.0t premium white package. Leaving everything stock except for the exterior. Maybe buy bc coilovers Definitely keeping up with oil changes
The turbos on the new Q50 isn’t tried and true yet. Meanwhile we had the 3.7 liter for over a decade and has been Lexus like reliable. Why would Infiniti go away from the natural aspirated engine is beyond me. I have a 2010 g37x and it has been a gem.
I feel the same!!! I went from BMW e92 335i coupe with n54 which is twin turbo and switched it for a G37 coupe and I definitely say the naturally aspirated is definitely far more reliable and it also sound and drive better then 335i , yea you can get power for cheap but the main❤was a nightmare!! Turbos are problematic in the long run once the turbo leaks and wastegate rattles come your in for thousands on repairs unless your a mechanic lol I went from TT to naturally aspirated VQ and never looked back, if your looking for proven reliability it's VQ all day I'm sorry!! Just put the TT on the VQ and tell me what's better then LoL that's a easy one!! VQ❤❤❤
@@50shades_of_memez that makes a lot of sense ! A question to you : If I don't have access to a VQ37 ((yet) or VR30DETT, but my playground Is literally littered with : VG30DET, VG30DETT, VG33, ..... VQ - 20(FWD), 23(FWD), 25(FWD/ RWD out of a nissan Stegea which comes 4WD/AWD), 30 (FWD/RWD), 30DET (RWD NEO), 35(FWD and the RWD out of a nissan England which is taller and also comes 4WD) and I can get pistons, rids & bearings out of the Honda K20A block...... isn't there something I can do or create(Frankenstein) to become relivant in this VQ universe ???
Great content and step by step direction on how to increase horsepower. Will be working on the my 3.0 t cooling system first before moving on to the lower down pipes and exhaust.
I'm concerned with the possible problem of carbon coking on the intake valves and ports of the VR30DDTT due to its GDI system on a turbo engine. Would that necessitate something like a walnut shell blasting of the intake ports every 30K miles or so? I know that VW and BMW were having problems with this on their GDI turbo engines.
Yes I had to walnut blast my 335i n54 engine and it was costly when the wastegate rattle and turbo leaks came in, I've since switched to VQ37VHR G37 coupe and I couldn't be more happier now just waiting to supercharge or TT it 💯💯💯
Are the Q50/Q60's with the VR30DDTT offered with a MANUAL transmission??? Why is nobody talking about the Transmission??? Is the 7-spd Auto any good???
I have a '13 Maxima and had an '03 M45 a while back. I want to move back to Infiniti and like you I am looking at the Q50 or Q60. I've been seeing some 2018 Q50 lower-end models coming in under $30K even with the 3.0t. (Not even remotely interested in the 2.0t) I was wondering why they are going for so cheap. Some 2014-2015 models (unless they have high miles) are still more expensive than the newer Q50s and I can't seem to find out why in my research. The biggest difference between the updated versions is the engine. So I'm wondering if that is the reason for the lower asking rate for the 2017-2018 models? Having had my Maxima for 3 years now, I know Nissan can build a very reliable naturally-aspirated V6. I'm not so sure about turbo engines. Now, with the low asking rate for the Q50 3.0t, I'm even more concerned. I know you haven't had the 3.0t too long but what is your opinion regarding reliability so far vs. the 3.7? My biggest concern is over the long haul. I plan to keep my next car for at least 5 or so years. Right now, the 3.0t engine is still fairly new so there's nothing to go by if it will go the distance like the naturally-aspirated ones have. EDIT: Let me clarify, all the Q50's I've been looking at are USED, even the 2018s.
Former Maxima owner here also! 2002 SE 6-Speed. And a 1990 Maxima back in the mid 90s. Stepped up to a G8 after the Maxima. Sold 2002 Maxima. Now looking into a Q50. Keeping G8 tho (Will be supercharged soon). Hitting the plateau of performance is the reason why I sold my 2002 Maxima. Q50 Red Sport is what Im looking at. Will be FBO modded and tuned...
Should've kept the maxipad Second gen vq swap maxima would be faster due to lighter body (2-400 lbs lighter) Have you seen the 700hp maxima tuned by admin?
Im late to this But you weren’t even close to hitting the Maximas peak. Those cars can be boosted from 3-5k and make some numbers. The 02 Maxima was literally ALOT cheaper to modify than your G8 and your Q50 but congrats on the cars you have cause they’re nice too
Sold my q50 fbo except for stock turbos on e50 but I did not liked the slow tranny which made it slow compared to other cars in same mods. Turbos started smoking when i added the full downpipes, and just to replace those suckers you need to drop the subframe with engine and tranny. Car made 490hp/550tq, if you are looking for a really fast car just get a supra, throw a downpipe and ecutek and you are set. Got myself a 370z and I really don’t miss the power and i know I won’t be spending 5k on mew turbos or replacing the freaking belt. Overall transmission and turbos are the biggest negatives.
It's VQ all day !!! 💯💯💯 especially for reliability!!!! Got me a g37 coupe now from a BMW 335i with n54 and I don't miss the turbo problems at all!! Going VQ all naturally aspirated is the best decision I ever made!!!! 💯💯💯
I did a 4 wheel Alignment on a 2015 370Z Nismo with some Custom Exhaust, Toke it for a Test Drive for the First Time, I had no idea it was a 3.7 700hp GTR Killer
I have a 02 Maxima with a 3.5 and a 6 speed. all the bolt ons with ECU refash and Helical LSD made a big difference . my girl has a G37 coupe that I use sometimes so I want a G35 or G37 sedan next..
I prefer turbo....Always here.....I love the VQ but I need the twin turbos.......I just bought a 17 3.0t awd.....My first Infinity and I love it so far.....It's stock but has a 3" MBRP dual exhaust
Great video, you answered all my questions and made it simple straight to the point,I drive the 3.7 and the 3.0 the other day I liked the 3.0 the most and you just made me make my decision.
My buddy has sport 3.0 q50 has Megan racing ldps full exhaust I believe invidia not sure the rest it’s fbo basically no tune it’s another animal with jus bolt ons .. I own a q50 red sport (stock) we do pulls all the time he keeps up even pulled on me during lower gears
I own a 40th anniversary manual, sports package 370z, and I love it. But a buddy of mine has a q50 and buddy they RIIIP. No doubt they're both great cars
Really appreciate your videos bro! And keep up the hard work and educate the Infiniti community, I have an 08 g35 sedan (vq35hr) and I am purchasing a q60 very soon, thanks to your videos just waiting on the right one. I’m planning on shipping an AWD model to California.
Can't say I've ever experienced heat soak symptoms with my '16 RS but I've been seeing a lot of AMS heat exchanger thumbnails. Do you think that's a worth-while upgrade for the RS given that the RS has the upgraded cooling out of the box? Would one feel a big difference? Also, do you dealerships honor warranties on cars with heat exchanger upgrades? An important thing for me is that I have bumper-to-bumper warranty for 7yrs/100K, but I do love me some speed.
Well considering you can find a nice 3.7 example for $15,000 and a new 3.0t will cost you between $50,000-60,000 I say the 3.7 hands down, also if you really need to you can turbo it or put a stillen supercharger for a few grand and smoke anything
Well the VR is turbocharged so ofc the torque will be greater. You can also twin turbo a VQ with dual intakes from a G. UA-cam is going to love my G37x
@Midwest Hoonigan Great video. A shop has done a swap of the 3.7 to 3.0 on a 370Z and I'm researching on doing the same but my only concern would be difficulty with keeping AC and power steering since I'd like an OEM feel and experience with the car. With your experience with both platforms, would you say the two are distant relatives or is the layout almost identical with exception of the turbo and heat exchanger components?
3.7 sounds way better than the 3.0, im so mad cause the red sport has a high pitch sound and is barely loud. 3.7 can get waaaay deeper and louder, almost as loud as a gtr.
It's all about maintenance, always change the oil, transmission, rear diff,(front diff&transfer case/awd) & coolant at the proper intervals. Change spark plugs and timing chain/belts every 30k-60k. Just depends as each engine is different so keep up with the FSM. The VR30DDTT has a belt, the VQ has a chain. A belt doesn't necessarily mean it's inferior to a timing chain. The VG30DETT in the 300zxTT had a belt as well, its FWD variant the VE30DE has a timing chain. It's genuinely a little easier to replace timing belts as they have easier access since they are often changed more frequently than timing chains. It can be a p.i.t.a. to change a timing chain in a VQ. But it's not that difficult. A lot of ppl neglect to do this maintenance after their warranties are up. It's the one downside in purchasing a used car. For the most part you're more likely to have a better maintained engine with an Infiniti than a Z. The Z would likely be owned by someone a lot younger who beat it all to hell. Infiniti owners for the most part tend to be older and could afford to properly maintain the car even after the warranty was up. They also weren't racing everyone they could. I don't know about the VQ37VHR'S as I only have the 2nd gen VQ35DE. But mine is at 206k and it's as strong and reliable as ever. It was well maintained, I can only second guess when the timing chain was changed. The timing guide tensioners were it's weak point. But it should of been taken care of during the recall. Timing chains can last the entire life of the engine well past 200k. I figure my engine had everything replace between the 80k-120k range. If not, than it's still going strong. I just replaced valve covers and gaskets and there was no sludge on the inside of the covers. No burnt oil residue either. The cams looked great, rockers were clean, valve bodies clean,etc. When I took the plenum off it had minimal oil residue, which I eliminated any further build up with a catch can. The valves were surprisingly clean as well when I looked down the intake manifold. So my analysis was that it was taken care of fairly well. I could also tell that the majority of it's miles were all highway miles based off clues from the wear and tear of the interior parts. I'm highly confident that this engine will still have plenty of life left in it. I'm hoping I can get it to 300k as I don't plan on ever selling it. I'll eventually save up for a Q60 myself, and I'll do a swap for the G35X I currently have. I'd like a more unique sedan build. Only a few have done it for Formula D drifting events. Anyways Nissan's are highly reliable but so are just about any other platform. Well not all are built equal so I take that back. Then again it could also just be the luck of the draw. Could just end up with not necessarily a lemon,but just one that falls apart for whatever reason. I've had an 02 Z28 Camaro that was at 215k when I sold it. It was still running strong,but I babied that thing. Then I've also owned a 95 BMW M3 and it started falling apart on me at 165k. Which is why a lot of ppl are hesitant in purchasing such a high mileage vehicle. I don't even consider 80k to be high mileage. Anything under 160k is mid range for me. If they can provide maintenance records than hell yeah even better. You'll know that you'll get another 5-10yrs out of it if it's a Nissan. So if you get one that's under 70k, then you could have a reliable car for the next 10-20yrs easily. One things for sure, it'll definitely hold it's value. Hell I see 16yr old Infiniti G35s going for 3k-6k all day. They go for even more if they are 06-08 VQ35HR's.
So I'm looking to buy one I'm looking at the red sport and you're talking about a 3.0 normal one but if I do the tune to the red sport and you're on the 30 normal I'll be at 500 or so when you're only at 400 correct?
You're only focusing on power. I'd like to add that 3.0VR weighs 150-250 lbs heavier than 3.7VQ. However, 3.0VR comes with updated steer-by-wire programming so steering doesn't feel as much like playing a video game.
If you just wanna make power for as cheap as possible then a g37 is the way to go but if you care about having a nicer, more comfortable newer car then I would go with the q60 all day. Comes down to your priorities really. Making a 600hp car just to daily drive it is a waste of money imo
What can the stock engine handle on the sport/red sport. Is it realistic to be running 500-600hp on these with upgraded turbos, fuelling etc. Really interested in the potential of these cars as looking at lexus rcf but since black sport edition was advertised I might change my mind
That was great content. I remember you saying u didn’t like Stillen intakes. Why was that? I heard you say that after I had them installed. Am I missing out not having a different brand? Although I am in California so I’m limited.
I generally agree with what’s said. However, having raced tuned turbo Q’s with my very mildly boosted G and after the Q’s initial half to car length lead out of the hole, my G will walk the Q badly. By around 200 ft I will have 2 cars on the Q. And I spent right around 2200 is all, for the mods for it. Plus, I don’t have to worry about reliability issues with this motor. I’m sure the new turbo 3.0’s will be reliable, but it’s not known for sure, yet.
A bolted/tuned torquey VR30 would definitely have a significant advantage off the jump, but even a "conservatively boosted" VQ37 with stock internals would take a VR30 into "deep waters" and drown it.
Midwest Hoonigan thanks for the comment and this video. I was looking into getting this q50 red sport but after this video it change my mind. Basically with a ecutek tune I’ll Be up there with the red sport.
Midwest Hoonigan that seals the deal for me. I’m gonna go with the first year release model. I don’t see the need for the 2017 or the 2019 model. I just want the best bang for the buck. RWD 2015 model ftw.
I love your videos! I recently bought a used 2016 Q50 Premium with 40k miles on it and I'm loving it! I got one question though, is a BOV really necessary? I've been browsing through VR30 videos on UA-cam and most of them recommend getting a BOV as a mandatory upgrade due to this platform not having any. My plan is to at least push 400hp or less since this is my daily driver & only car. Or what upgrades do you recommend?
Man I am new to cars ,I just bought a 3.0t q50 and consider to mod it but I am worried about to sell it in the future. Do I need to remove all the mods to sell it? Thank you!
Even if the 3.7 has more power throughout the entire rpm range? Idk about having strong turbos up until i get to 4.5k rpms... I think 3.7 and then maybe adding a single turbo would be the BEST route considering it'd be like a best of both worlds... vq engine.... turbo.... reliability... all the goods 👍
I hate people that complain about RPM. Dude... 450hp/tq is 450 hp/tq. The chevy LS is arguably the most popular engine swap and it rarely sees rpms above 7k and yet it is a serious performance contender.... just an example. Don't wanna upset anyone. But complaining about rpms is like complaining about a car that makes 400 hp/tq NA as opposed to a turbo car that makes 400 hp/tq turbo.
I recently rented the Q60t. The acceleration was great. I have a 05 350z what kind of mods do I need to get that same feel without having to get into a new V. Appreciate the info
Just got a Q60S Red Sport fully loaded. Midnight black with the red interior. Absolutely love this car!
Awesome! I just picked one up myself, fully loaded, AWD, sport wheels & minus the DAS (Proactive Package). I couldn't be happier myself!
One thing I like about the VQ is that because of the greater displacement you can achieve the same hp levels with less boost, good for reliability and longevity.
Exactly!!! He said himself he modified his VQ the wrong way & never got it right of course he going to chose 3.0 lol would his opinion be different if he supercharged or TT the VQ in the first place ?? I think it would! VQ is going to be more reliable in the long run period I'm sorry I just can't agree with him!! Its VQ all day 💯💯
I had a 650whp 370z supercharged and it’s still all the same. Modifying these engines is always a gamble. There is no making power and reliable.
@@EnthusiastPOV I think if you go that high, to 650 hp, there's no way to avoid a significant loss of reliability/longevity in that engine. Nissan states that you can go as high as 450 crank hp without needing to do any strengthening mods, so we may be looking at about a 5 psi boost level in manifold pressure as a limit for an engine that's to have a long life.
@@EnthusiastPOV you can make that reliable depends on who modding
Power and reliability are the opposite end of the spectrum
Got a '17 Red Sport TwinTurbo. I've added a Burger cold intake, + a special MagnaFlow exhaust, then did an optimized Tune that maximizes overall Boost. A few other mods that I wont go into...but my RedSport TT now is pumping out closer to 500hp to the wheel so you can figure out the torque figures yourselves. Im a Porsche guy who has a GT2 RS so I get it; this Infi Q60RedSportTT is now a beast and the best daily driver I have. Better than my Targa and thats hard for me to say.
Agreed 100%, I had both platforms as well the 3.0 is def a better daily driver with all the extra torque and down low power. But, the 3.7 revs and goes stronger at highway speeds.
Longevity and reliability the VQ my 370z is at 130k miles no major issue other than serpentine belt replaced, and general maintenance.
130K on a VQ is nothing, my 3.5 is at 304K milep
Simple
Vq37 more reliable, longer history than VR literally bulletproof, makes good power out of factory but expensive to mod even with tune you won’t push over 400hp with full bolt ons maybe if you build the internals you can get close to 400hp but it’s so limited unless you boost but that can get very expensive as well.
VR Well it’s a newer engine, not as reliable, heatsoaking but makes great power when modded. It still has a long way to go and it’s going to get better or worst who knows. Also expensive to mod you for the money you make better power than the VQ with just simple bolt ons.
I’m on the other side of the spectrum w my NA V8 on my FBO ISF. I love this car, but I’m looking at the q60 for my next car in a couple of years and I like to do my research beforehand (Did 2 years of research before pulling the trigger on the F). It was between the Q60RS and the RCF, but after reading up on the 3.0 engine and then coming to your videos, the RS is no longer in one of my choices, now between the 3.0 vs RCF, but with the money savings from the 3.0, I can use to match (if not exceed) the RCF’s 460 horse. And still have a good amount of money leftover. So thank you again for sharing your experience! If all goes through well, it’ll be my first Infiniti.
The F cars are sweet but I'm tempted to jump back to infiniti
I would go v8 always
Supercharge or turbo it. Tf lol
I have a stock '15 Q60 redsport. I havent put a single mod on it yet. My favorite thing is driving down the freeway at 60 and putting it to the floor and being at 120 in 2.5 seconds and watching the cars that were next to you become dots in the mirror
You're a fucking idiot, first year of the new Q60(non G37 body) was 2017, and the first year of the Q50 was 2016 and neither one, no matter what model will do 60-120 in anywhere near 2.5 seconds, it takes a C7 ZR1 corvette over double that time to do 60-120. If we're talking KM/H then maybe, but you're obviously full of shit and thought no one would notice so no point in even caring at this point.
Woah guys chill 😂😂
@@NALOW84 so dipshit, i put a video up on my channel just for you. Also you have to be told dipshit to think that I wasnt just fucking saying numbers. I said 2.5 sec cause 1.5 wasnt available. Ass. Hurry up and go check it out soon so you feel like a total dipshit in front of everybody for not knowing shit
Junkyards are selling those vr30 motors like crazy nowadays. I wonder why.
I do miss that VQ sound...
After throwing all the fun and costly mods on my old Subaru turbos, I went to the 3.0 335i and finally to a VQ 3.7..in a QX50. Not disappointed.
I went from a N54 e92 335i coupe to a VQ37VHR G37 coupe and I actually like the VQ better because of reliability and I think it drives better even though the N54 FBO was fast, I still havent modified the G37 yet tho but I like the stock version better then stock 335i for sure now I'm curious to see how it drives with a supercharger then I'll get a better perspective
@@50shades_of_memez it’s very tame with stillen supercharger
VQ POWER
@@nigelados4796 Sooooooooo🤷♂️🤷♂️, nothing will sound and better build then the VQ.
Twin turbo VQ3.7!!!
That would be a great setup, but it would kick the GT-R's ass and Nissan would lose sales on it. Actually, I think a great setup for the Z would be to stick with a lightweight N/A V-6, or V-8, and go for a displacement increase to get hp levels to about 400 at the crank. I like the greater simplicity, reliability and lower weight of a N/A engine. Nissan did a great job in producing a very efficient and sophisticated V-6 in making the VQ37VHR, they could continue the refinement process on it for the next gen Z.
@@videomaniac108 that costs just as much as slapping on a twin turbo kit or supercharger kit and the resulting power upgrade will not be as much. It will be a better drive though. There are so many charged kits for the vq37 that are simple to install it makes life easy.
That’s $8-9k + $2.5k supporting mods...... no.
@@videomaniac108 sure a stock gtr or even a tuned one but anything north of 900whp is where the VQ37VHR block gets weak
Just picked up a 2019 Q50 3.0t Luxe. I think I'm gonna try and pay the car off completely before I do any big modifications to it.
Does anyone know which used Q60 models come with Paddle Shifters? Even if they're not the best I would like to have them coming from I drive a manual transmission right now. (NON RED SPORT)
@@EnthusiastPOV What kind of aftermarket solutions? If I have someone make me a custom wheel, which I may be doing anyways, could I add in paddle shifters?
Aftr long run turbo cars begin to slow down i notice this but the N/@ engine give you the powa always no mater after hours drive
Found it!!! I’m team vq so here comes the spending lol. I got my G37X coupe from carmax this year so I still have warranty. 4 more years to go lol
I just bought a 2017 rwd 3.0t premium white package. Leaving everything stock except for the exterior. Maybe buy bc coilovers
Definitely keeping up with oil changes
The turbos on the new Q50 isn’t tried and true yet. Meanwhile we had the 3.7 liter for over a decade and has been Lexus like reliable. Why would Infiniti go away from the natural aspirated engine is beyond me. I have a 2010 g37x and it has been a gem.
I feel the same!!! I went from BMW e92 335i coupe with n54 which is twin turbo and switched it for a G37 coupe and I definitely say the naturally aspirated is definitely far more reliable and it also sound and drive better then 335i , yea you can get power for cheap but the main❤was a nightmare!! Turbos are problematic in the long run once the turbo leaks and wastegate rattles come your in for thousands on repairs unless your a mechanic lol I went from TT to naturally aspirated VQ and never looked back, if your looking for proven reliability it's VQ all day I'm sorry!! Just put the TT on the VQ and tell me what's better then LoL that's a easy one!! VQ❤❤❤
@@50shades_of_memez that makes a lot of sense !
A question to you : If I don't have access to a VQ37 ((yet) or VR30DETT, but my playground Is literally littered with : VG30DET, VG30DETT, VG33, ..... VQ - 20(FWD), 23(FWD), 25(FWD/ RWD out of a nissan Stegea which comes 4WD/AWD), 30 (FWD/RWD), 30DET (RWD NEO), 35(FWD and the RWD out of a nissan England which is taller and also comes 4WD) and I can get pistons, rids & bearings out of the Honda K20A block...... isn't there something I can do or create(Frankenstein) to become relivant in this VQ universe ???
So I have 3.0 redsport what is the first suggestion of tune
Great content and step by step direction on how to increase horsepower. Will be working on the my 3.0 t cooling system first before moving on to the lower down pipes and exhaust.
I'm concerned with the possible problem of carbon coking on the intake valves and ports of the VR30DDTT due to its GDI system on a turbo engine. Would that necessitate something like a walnut shell blasting of the intake ports every 30K miles or so? I know that VW and BMW were having problems with this on their GDI turbo engines.
Yes I had to walnut blast my 335i n54 engine and it was costly when the wastegate rattle and turbo leaks came in, I've since switched to VQ37VHR G37 coupe and I couldn't be more happier now just waiting to supercharge or TT it 💯💯💯
Boosted performance mid mount single turbo kit for the VQ and call it a day. Vr's are cute
You ain’t lying. !
I wish it was offered in the Q60.
I'm waiting for the new 400Z twin turbo motor to come out.., taking the VR motor 6 speed version to drop in my 96 300zx TT..
the motor is already out and 3.7 manual tranny fits it.
Are the Q50/Q60's with the VR30DDTT offered with a MANUAL transmission???
Why is nobody talking about the Transmission???
Is the 7-spd Auto any good???
I have a '13 Maxima and had an '03 M45 a while back. I want to move back to Infiniti and like you I am looking at the Q50 or Q60. I've been seeing some 2018 Q50 lower-end models coming in under $30K even with the 3.0t. (Not even remotely interested in the 2.0t) I was wondering why they are going for so cheap. Some 2014-2015 models (unless they have high miles) are still more expensive than the newer Q50s and I can't seem to find out why in my research. The biggest difference between the updated versions is the engine. So I'm wondering if that is the reason for the lower asking rate for the 2017-2018 models? Having had my Maxima for 3 years now, I know Nissan can build a very reliable naturally-aspirated V6. I'm not so sure about turbo engines. Now, with the low asking rate for the Q50 3.0t, I'm even more concerned. I know you haven't had the 3.0t too long but what is your opinion regarding reliability so far vs. the 3.7? My biggest concern is over the long haul. I plan to keep my next car for at least 5 or so years. Right now, the 3.0t engine is still fairly new so there's nothing to go by if it will go the distance like the naturally-aspirated ones have.
EDIT: Let me clarify, all the Q50's I've been looking at are USED, even the 2018s.
B-Columbian Truther vr30s have a plethora of reliability issues. vq is more attractive to customers as it’s a tried and true NA motor
The VQ 3.7 is legendary and bulletproof reliable. The verdict is still out on the VR3.0 but the GTR VR3.8 seems just as bulletproof as a N/A 3.7
Former Maxima owner here also! 2002 SE 6-Speed. And a 1990 Maxima back in the mid 90s. Stepped up to a G8 after the Maxima. Sold 2002 Maxima. Now looking into a Q50. Keeping G8 tho (Will be supercharged soon). Hitting the plateau of performance is the reason why I sold my 2002 Maxima. Q50 Red Sport is what Im looking at. Will be FBO modded and tuned...
Should've kept the maxipad
Second gen vq swap maxima would be faster due to lighter body (2-400 lbs lighter)
Have you seen the 700hp maxima tuned by admin?
Im late to this But you weren’t even close to hitting the Maximas peak. Those cars can be boosted from 3-5k and make some numbers. The 02 Maxima was literally ALOT cheaper to modify than your G8 and your Q50 but congrats on the cars you have cause they’re nice too
Sold my q50 fbo except for stock turbos on e50 but I did not liked the slow tranny which made it slow compared to other cars in same mods. Turbos started smoking when i added the full downpipes, and just to replace those suckers you need to drop the subframe with engine and tranny. Car made 490hp/550tq, if you are looking for a really fast car just get a supra, throw a downpipe and ecutek and you are set. Got myself a 370z and I really don’t miss the power and i know I won’t be spending 5k on mew turbos or replacing the freaking belt. Overall transmission and turbos are the biggest negatives.
It's VQ all day !!! 💯💯💯 especially for reliability!!!! Got me a g37 coupe now from a BMW 335i with n54 and I don't miss the turbo problems at all!! Going VQ all naturally aspirated is the best decision I ever made!!!! 💯💯💯
I did a 4 wheel Alignment on a 2015 370Z Nismo with some Custom Exhaust, Toke it for a Test Drive for the First Time, I had no idea it was a 3.7 700hp GTR Killer
WOW!
If I were you 3.7 guys, the GTR engine fits our chassis also don't forget the VR30 swap which would be a lot cheaper than going twin turbo on a 3.7
WOW NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT!!! Now that's a swap I would actually consider over the VQ !! not the vr30 💯💯💯💯
I have a 02 Maxima with a 3.5 and a 6 speed. all the bolt ons with ECU refash and Helical LSD made a big difference . my girl has a G37 coupe that I use sometimes so I want a G35 or G37 sedan next..
Got my Q50 silver sport 4 months ago and I love it wish it was manual but the power and handling makes up for it! Can’t wait to tune mine!
thanks for your advise, it clearly helps a lot to make a decision
A simple super charger on the 3.7 liter gives it an easy extra 100 horses
Love the Q60 3.0 didn't like paying for new turbos at 75,000 miles
The 400z is running with a vr30dett i wonder if they will also use the vq
I prefer turbo....Always here.....I love the VQ but I need the twin turbos.......I just bought a 17 3.0t awd.....My first Infinity and I love it so far.....It's stock but has a 3" MBRP dual exhaust
AWD vs RWD? Which can help me win rolling starts and digs?
Hey man I like you shirt where did you get it from? I would like to know
Great video, you answered all my questions and made it simple straight to the point,I drive the 3.7 and the 3.0 the other day I liked the 3.0 the most and you just made me make my decision.
Bought mine back in 2015 still only 49k miles in 2022
It's sad they don't make the manual 😥
All due respect to him, but you are way better than Boost In Motion!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. I would have never figured that out so easily.
I will subscribe 👍
My buddy has sport 3.0 q50 has Megan racing ldps full exhaust I believe invidia not sure the rest it’s fbo basically no tune it’s another animal with jus bolt ons .. I own a q50 red sport (stock) we do pulls all the time he keeps up even pulled on me during lower gears
I own a 40th anniversary manual, sports package 370z, and I love it. But a buddy of mine has a q50 and buddy they RIIIP. No doubt they're both great cars
Which engine does ur buddy have
The optical sensors on the RS400 as well
Really appreciate your videos bro! And keep up the hard work and educate the Infiniti community, I have an 08 g35 sedan (vq35hr) and I am purchasing a q60 very soon, thanks to your videos just waiting on the right one. I’m planning on shipping an AWD model to California.
Can't say I've ever experienced heat soak symptoms with my '16 RS but I've been seeing a lot of AMS heat exchanger thumbnails. Do you think that's a worth-while upgrade for the RS given that the RS has the upgraded cooling out of the box? Would one feel a big difference? Also, do you dealerships honor warranties on cars with heat exchanger upgrades? An important thing for me is that I have bumper-to-bumper warranty for 7yrs/100K, but I do love me some speed.
@@EnthusiastPOV That's good to know. Thank you for taking the time to respond!
Well considering you can find a nice 3.7 example for $15,000 and a new 3.0t will cost you between $50,000-60,000 I say the 3.7 hands down, also if you really need to you can turbo it or put a stillen supercharger for a few grand and smoke anything
Exactly!!! 💯💯💯 and more reliable in the long run💯💯💯
Well gee-wiz Jr. I love my RS, she is a heavy girl though I just weighed her and she is 4020lbs... and that's taking 60lbs off her already.
What about a 2017 qx70 3.7 awd base model? What is needed to get the power I want out of it?
If I get a Q50 redsport, I would do the overdrive tune.
Well the VR is turbocharged so ofc the torque will be greater.
You can also twin turbo a VQ with dual intakes from a G.
UA-cam is going to love my G37x
Man I would rev to 8k on my 370z 😂 man it felt soo good
And the 35hr isnt any slower
Would you say the 3.0T is just as reliable as the 3.7?
Not at all lol
Probably a 30k mile one is okay to do can always warranty stuff before it’s up then mod.
Why not throw a jb4 tune on a q50 3.0t red sport ??
Does upgrading the cooling on a 3.0t void warranty?
BairddE was just thinking this, I wonder if it does
all of the AMS cooling mods are backed by Infiniti as they sell it themselves.
@Midwest Hoonigan Great video. A shop has done a swap of the 3.7 to 3.0 on a 370Z and I'm researching on doing the same but my only concern would be difficulty with keeping AC and power steering since I'd like an OEM feel and experience with the car. With your experience with both platforms, would you say the two are distant relatives or is the layout almost identical with exception of the turbo and heat exchanger components?
why do that ?? just put ur own turbo on it
I have a 15’ q50 3.7, what’s the best intakes you suggests ?
I have a 3.0t luxe RWD which also delivers 300hp @ 6400 rpm is it possible to get more power than a red sport?
3.7 sounds way better than the 3.0, im so mad cause the red sport has a high pitch sound and is barely loud. 3.7 can get waaaay deeper and louder, almost as loud as a gtr.
With the 3.0, ballpark figures on how much that cost?
How durable is the 3.7 ? Can I go past 200,000 miles with the bolt ons you mentioned ? I'm looking for a quick daily car not interested racing it
It’s very durable almost bulletproof
It's all about maintenance, always change the oil, transmission, rear diff,(front diff&transfer case/awd) & coolant at the proper intervals. Change spark plugs and timing chain/belts every 30k-60k. Just depends as each engine is different so keep up with the FSM. The VR30DDTT has a belt, the VQ has a chain. A belt doesn't necessarily mean it's inferior to a timing chain. The VG30DETT in the 300zxTT had a belt as well, its FWD variant the VE30DE has a timing chain. It's genuinely a little easier to replace timing belts as they have easier access since they are often changed more frequently than timing chains. It can be a p.i.t.a. to change a timing chain in a VQ. But it's not that difficult. A lot of ppl neglect to do this maintenance after their warranties are up. It's the one downside in purchasing a used car. For the most part you're more likely to have a better maintained engine with an Infiniti than a Z. The Z would likely be owned by someone a lot younger who beat it all to hell. Infiniti owners for the most part tend to be older and could afford to properly maintain the car even after the warranty was up. They also weren't racing everyone they could. I don't know about the VQ37VHR'S as I only have the 2nd gen VQ35DE. But mine is at 206k and it's as strong and reliable as ever. It was well maintained, I can only second guess when the timing chain was changed. The timing guide tensioners were it's weak point. But it should of been taken care of during the recall. Timing chains can last the entire life of the engine well past 200k. I figure my engine had everything replace between the 80k-120k range. If not, than it's still going strong. I just replaced valve covers and gaskets and there was no sludge on the inside of the covers. No burnt oil residue either. The cams looked great, rockers were clean, valve bodies clean,etc. When I took the plenum off it had minimal oil residue, which I eliminated any further build up with a catch can. The valves were surprisingly clean as well when I looked down the intake manifold. So my analysis was that it was taken care of fairly well. I could also tell that the majority of it's miles were all highway miles based off clues from the wear and tear of the interior parts. I'm highly confident that this engine will still have plenty of life left in it. I'm hoping I can get it to 300k as I don't plan on ever selling it. I'll eventually save up for a Q60 myself, and I'll do a swap for the G35X I currently have. I'd like a more unique sedan build. Only a few have done it for Formula D drifting events. Anyways Nissan's are highly reliable but so are just about any other platform. Well not all are built equal so I take that back. Then again it could also just be the luck of the draw. Could just end up with not necessarily a lemon,but just one that falls apart for whatever reason. I've had an 02 Z28 Camaro that was at 215k when I sold it. It was still running strong,but I babied that thing. Then I've also owned a 95 BMW M3 and it started falling apart on me at 165k. Which is why a lot of ppl are hesitant in purchasing such a high mileage vehicle. I don't even consider 80k to be high mileage. Anything under 160k is mid range for me. If they can provide maintenance records than hell yeah even better. You'll know that you'll get another 5-10yrs out of it if it's a Nissan. So if you get one that's under 70k, then you could have a reliable car for the next 10-20yrs easily. One things for sure, it'll definitely hold it's value. Hell I see 16yr old Infiniti G35s going for 3k-6k all day. They go for even more if they are 06-08 VQ35HR's.
Great video. Thanks for the useful information
So I'm looking to buy one I'm looking at the red sport and you're talking about a 3.0 normal one but if I do the tune to the red sport and you're on the 30 normal I'll be at 500 or so when you're only at 400 correct?
No. It’s the same motor, same everything they just come tuned differently stock.
You're only focusing on power. I'd like to add that 3.0VR weighs 150-250 lbs heavier than 3.7VQ. However, 3.0VR comes with updated steer-by-wire programming so steering doesn't feel as much like playing a video game.
So here's the question. A g37s is about 15 grand, a q60 is 30. What's the cost of the stillen superchargers and supporting mods?
If you just wanna make power for as cheap as possible then a g37 is the way to go but if you care about having a nicer, more comfortable newer car then I would go with the q60 all day. Comes down to your priorities really. Making a 600hp car just to daily drive it is a waste of money imo
Personally I don’t want the vq sound on the 3.0 I like how different it sounds.
What supporting mods would be good if you have 3.7 q50 and end up going supercharged..
Midwest Hoonigan Arent the headers different for awd models?
Exhaust, hfc or test pipes will work for the supercharger doesn’t need much
Yes they’re for the 3.7
And you can run air to water on a s/c no issue. P
Wat do u prefer for best performance!? AWD or RWD for 3.0tt???
Which one is more reliable to get me to 150k -200k miles with little to no issues? Only basic mods
Vq
Yo it’s dope we both going from the 3.5 maxima to the 3.7 q50 💪🏾
What year Maxima you had ?
@@Jg.a33 had the 2005 went to the 2010
@@taveoharris7439 I Hear ya, I’m still holding it down with the 02 Max 6-speed 💯
@@Jg.a33Ah I see you 💪🏾 those are clean too
The red sport had a final gear ratio which means higher rpm and more top speed don’t let anyone play you
2.93 vs 3.11, there isn’t all but 2mph if that. Fastest 3 Q/ in the world are all non red sports cause it doesn’t matter lol
It doesn’t but that matters when you racing something with top speed fasho
I'm planning to add LSD, Takeda Air Intake, Stillen Exhaust, and a tune. What are my approximate gain? Q50 3.7 is what I have.
@@EnthusiastPOV I thought stock base torque was 269 lb ft.
What can the stock engine handle on the sport/red sport. Is it realistic to be running 500-600hp on these with upgraded turbos, fuelling etc. Really interested in the potential of these cars as looking at lexus rcf but since black sport edition was advertised I might change my mind
Great vid! Recently started following you as I will be getting my own q60 sport by years end. Can’t wait to unlock this things potential!
That was great content. I remember you saying u didn’t like Stillen intakes. Why was that? I heard you say that after I had them installed. Am I missing out not having a different brand? Although I am in California so I’m limited.
Going to VR swap my 370z Nismo
I'm waiting for the 400Z to drop.,and I'm taking the VR motor 6 speed to drop in my 96 300ZX TT..
I got the 2017 Infiniti Q50s 400 Red-sports fully loaded I love it shit super fast
Turning left @120mph...the real DK
I generally agree with what’s said. However, having raced tuned turbo Q’s with my very mildly boosted G and after the Q’s initial half to car length lead out of the hole, my G will walk the Q badly. By around 200 ft I will have 2 cars on the Q. And I spent right around 2200 is all, for the mods for it. Plus, I don’t have to worry about reliability issues with this motor. I’m sure the new turbo 3.0’s will be reliable, but it’s not known for sure, yet.
Nice man glad your car runs that good. I like boosted Gs myself
A bolted/tuned torquey VR30 would definitely have a significant advantage off the jump, but even a "conservatively boosted" VQ37 with stock internals would take a VR30 into "deep waters" and drown it.
$2200 for a full turbo setup on a G? Where are you getting your performance parts my guy?
Agreeded. A steal for even a "used setup".
So your telling me the sport have the same turbo as the red sport?
Midwest Hoonigan thanks for the comment and this video. I was looking into getting this q50 red sport but after this video it change my mind. Basically with a ecutek tune I’ll
Be up there with the red sport.
Midwest Hoonigan that seals the deal for me. I’m gonna go with the first year release model. I don’t see the need for the 2017 or the 2019 model. I just want the best bang for the buck. RWD 2015 model ftw.
Yes but the red is about 16-17 psi as for the sport it’s 10-12 psi. Different factory tuning
G37 AMM twin turbo kit 450whp
I love your videos! I recently bought a used 2016 Q50 Premium with 40k miles on it and I'm loving it!
I got one question though, is a BOV really necessary? I've been browsing through VR30 videos on UA-cam and most of them recommend getting a BOV as a mandatory upgrade due to this platform not having any. My plan is to at least push 400hp or less since this is my daily driver & only car. Or what upgrades do you recommend?
Are the 3.0’s reliable ?
What do you thonk is better a q50 3.7 or a g70 genesis?
G70 instead lol
@@EnthusiastPOV ty
Man I am new to cars ,I just bought a 3.0t q50 and consider to mod it but I am worried about to sell it in the future. Do I need to remove all the mods to sell it? Thank you!
Lol that is entirely up to the owner if you actually buy it
Can 3.7 engine fit the q50 3.0t car
3.0 sounds better than the 3.7 don’t @ me
😂😂
@Luis B
Luis B got em
Even if the 3.7 has more power throughout the entire rpm range? Idk about having strong turbos up until i get to 4.5k rpms... I think 3.7 and then maybe adding a single turbo would be the BEST route considering it'd be like a best of both worlds... vq engine.... turbo.... reliability... all the goods 👍
I hate people that complain about RPM. Dude... 450hp/tq is 450 hp/tq. The chevy LS is arguably the most popular engine swap and it rarely sees rpms above 7k and yet it is a serious performance contender.... just an example. Don't wanna upset anyone. But complaining about rpms is like complaining about a car that makes 400 hp/tq NA as opposed to a turbo car that makes 400 hp/tq turbo.
Is there enough room to put a turbo or two in a 2015 Q50?
Got an IPL g and made 316 whp just full motordyne exhaust and art pipes with z1 intakes. Was close to getting a RS400 Q60 lol. Couldn’t resist an IPL
have you reviewed the Q50 hybrid, what's your take in terms of mods ?
I love those! I haven’t had the pleasure
3.7 is 328hp stock tho
3.0 kicks alot faster from zero. feels awesome tbh!
You think buying a 2018 q50 silver sport with 50k miles is dumb? Or should I go for it?
Stick to a budget and measure all risks
Enthusiast POV thank you bro 🙏🏻💯 sorry to bug again but by any chance would u know the lifespan? I’m I looking at 200k miles or less?
Any car will last you that long just requires good maintenance upkeep
You should repost this since the 400z will probably have the VR30DDTT from the Q60 Red Sport. Video would get tons of views.
I recently rented the Q60t. The acceleration was great. I have a 05 350z what kind of mods do I need to get that same feel without having to get into a new V. Appreciate the info
1ceibaarima turbo it
Nitrous. Cheap. Fast. Reliable