Vivaro fuel priming bulb & fuel line problem. Lets replace them.
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2022
- The Vivaro wouldn't start. We narrowed it down to a fuel problem - the priming bulb had a hole in it.
Here's how we fixed it.
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Thank you. all these videos on the Vivaro are so helpful ...I have one and followed some of your other videos to make repairs. Keep em coming you're a godsend.
Thanks, that's very kind 😃. They keep us busy don't they🤣.
Cheers Larcs 👍
even if my bulb is not the problem this bit of video was fantastic. Good views of the relevant parts and plenty of good humour. You deserve an oscar!
Thanks that's very kind 😃, but I don't think the pro's will be quaking in their boots😉. Thanks again 👌.
Cheers Larcs 👍
You need a sense of humour with anything French!
My primer pump gave up the ghost after changing the fuel filter yesterday, I went to Halfords and bought the same bulb you have, I managed to prize the pipes out of the old bulb and make it look as factory as possible apart from the jubilee clips (hose clips they call them now - showing my age) 😀👍
Good job 👌. I always call them jubilee clips too 😁. Cheers Larcs 👍
I had the same problem, 2 mobile mechanics couldn’t find the problem, local garage had it for a month and sent off the ecu for checking and suggested scrapping it, got it towed to a diagnostic specialist who rebuilt the ecu and it started (a fluke) but it failed to start when i got it back. I am not a mechanic but thought to myself surely there must be fuel in that clear pipe going to the injectors? Found a split in the primer bulb, bought a new one for £8…….squirted a bit of easy start and it’s been purring like a kitten ever since. It seems that if the fault is not displayed on a diagnostic computer nobody knows what to do……
That's so true . It seems that some people just plug it in before even opening the bonnet🙄. But you got it sorted, great job 👌.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Holy crap! Well done.
Hi Buddy - many thanks for the Video , when it comes to anything related to mechanics I am a total numpty However you have shown me in easy to follow instructions exactly what I need to do. the primer bulb in my Van has a hole in it so I will purchase one off eBay and have a go at fitting it ...
Thanks 😁, get in there and get your hands dirty. We were all mechanical numpties at one point. Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
thank you for this I had the same problem, I think I need a new fuel filter, I would not have had a clue where to start if not for you, many thanks
Thanks, no problems. Glad it helped.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Great vid, I have the same problem, now I know what to do.. thank you Sir.
Thanks, no problems. Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
thank you for this video, my car a renault trafic II, with the same problem - simple repaired like this 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
oh man that rain sound it so relaxing
And wet 😂
There is a pump on ebay without fuel line for £9.99. Thank you for your help, I've been looking for the reason for the smoke and hard start for a year.
Thanks, no problems. Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Really helpful , also i live in taunton, good to see stuff like this being done locally, love the videos, thanks
Thanks, at least you can understand my Somerset accent then 🤣
Umm well, I went to change it and there is no rubber bulb, no idea how you prime it without one 😳
Everything else on your van is the same just no bulb 😂
@@user-zp4rw9eg2s Some of them have it, some don't, if you read through the comments it almost seems random?? I would imagine that you would have an in-tank pump (if you haven't got a priming bulb) and cycling the ignition should get fuel up to the filter, then you'll have to bleed the air out. Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@user-zp4rw9eg2s 👍
Thank you for uploading this! Hoping this is the problem with mine as the fuel bulb had no pressure etc, think the one way valve is knackered.
Thanks 👍. Sometimes they can be primed by using your finger as the non return valve on the filter body vent. Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Done mine a few weeks back, easy enough job!
Nice 👍
can you help Stephen ? just bought a traffic 127 sport,2 ltr 115 bhp,,,i have found the priming bulb goes soft after a run ,,the van still starts and goes but lacks power,,,,the bulb just wont go hard, i can see bubbles in the transparent pipe that comes out of the fuel filter down to the engine,, was your problem similar ?
@@gw2031 no mine was an obvious split. Might be worth checking round it for any holes or splits, no matter how small.
Goodmorning! Great video!
Hi Fred, thanks 👍. You ok over there?
@@LarcsWorkshop lovelly weather here!
@@frednetherlands887 👍
Hey, thanks for this. I had the same problem, started for a bit then stopped and wouldn't restart. Air in fuel line and it turns out the bulb is split. So I did the shortcut and replaced the priming bulb. It now starts and runs OK with no air in the fuel line. Fingers crossed it'll be OK. Thanks again
Thanks, no problems. Glad you got it sorted out 👍
Mine started and ran for a few seconds before dying...won't start so thank you for some hope! Wish me luck!
Good luck sorting it out 🤞
Great video.. cheers
Thanks, no problems 👍
Super film 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Thank you for the video, I got a bulb from Gsf and done like your Halfords fix, as I got two eBay ones and found them so cheap that they hardly work but I didn’t know you have a air release on the filter itself, would the Gsf one be ok as a permanent fix as a lot better quality?
Thanks, no problems 😃. I was running it like that for a while with no problems, so I would imagine it would be ok? Just keep an eye on it.
Cheers Larcs 👍
When the priming bulb was dry (I had left it over night disconnected) it didn't work for me either. It seems the diesel leaks down into the fuel-tank sloooowly, when disconnected. So I filled it all up with diesel from the top side (Used a big syringe into the tube-plug opening), and it worked again. (The reason I left it overnight disconnected, was because I needed to get a new fuel-filter, and I needed the old for measuring it's dimensions. A new filter might not fit, even though those selling it, insists that it will .... ).
I think that's a common issue when they are dry. Well done sorting it out.
Hi Larcs, great video I had tiny air bubbles and upon further inspection it was split between the bulb and the 90 degree connection. The bleed valve you show at 4:10 is this easy to operate? no obvious tool slot or knurling to grip. I have a 2.0 dci 115 trafic and I have the same valve but its further to the right of the engine.
I did the fix you showed and all the air bubbles went away, it starts a lot better and no longer cuts out so thank you. Will be replacing with genuine bulb in the next week or so. But I do see quite a bit of air behind the valve mentioned and bit concerned about this making its way back as sometimes it is still a little bit tricky to start. Miles better than it was however
Love the videos 👍
Thanks, the filter body bleed on mine is notched so you can turn it by hand (or with a pair of pliers). Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Thanks for posting this. I've got the same problem. I tried to replace just the bulb, and managed to damage the bulb and the short top fuel line to the fuel filter (too aggressive with heat, they melted!). I'm thinking I could get a new complete bulb and fuel line, like you installed, then (1) remove the long fuel line from the bottom of the new set and (2) cut the existing bulb from the existing lower fuel line, then (3) fit the new bulb onto the existing lower fuel line. Does that sound sensible? How would I get the old line to fit securely onto the new bulb connector? The connectors look bigger than the fuel line.
Thanks, sorry you've lost me a bit? Is there a reason you're not changing the whole line in one? It's a right pain but still do-able. The hoses can be pushed onto the correct size fittings with some heat and swearing, but it is hard. There are kits to do it but they seem expensive. Good luck with sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
When i change my fuel filter and prime the system it runs beautiful but after a while there seems to be a lot of air in that clear pipe and it loses power did you have the same issue?? And should i change that pipe like you did
Sounds like air is getting in somewhere? Check your filter housing lid seal is good, the vent is tight, the priming bulb, and check the 'O' rings on the pipe fittings to/from the filter housing are good first. Then check the pipe hasn't fretted or got damaged somewhere. I think the pipe is a bit of a 'last resort' as it is a bit of a pain to change ,unless you have a car lift. Good luck sorting it out 🤞, and please keep us updated with what you find.
Cheers, Larcs 👍
How did you get the old hose off the original fitting as am about to do this to my van
IIRC I very carefully slit the pipe along the fitting with a very sharp knife (being careful not to damage the barb) and peeled it off.
hi great video what was the connector like on the end of the pipe to the fuel tank..is it similar to the one that fits to the fuel filter housing
Thanks, yes very similar to the one on the fuel filter IRC.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Cheers larcs..keep doing your videos.very helpful 👍
@@peterwatson4434 Thanks
I’ve had the same problem with my vivaro 2005 plate. Just had the fuel line replaced by a garage and I still have to pump the non return valve to get the fuel back up only pump it 3 or 4 times to get it primed . Any ideas ? Cheers
I'd have a word with the garage who replaced it, sounds like air might be getting in somewhere? Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
I have a Mk1 Movano 2.2D it was cranking, not firing. Found an issue sorted it and realised there is no primer bulb fitted near the housing. Any ideas on how I can prime the filter housing
I think you can put a hand vacuum pump on the outlet of the filter housing and prime that. Or you could add a priming bulb in line? Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Hi mate love the Chanel I also have a Vauxhall vivaro van 2004. I’m having the same problem as yours with the priming bulb it’s leaking/damaged. Mine seems to go all the way back to the fuel tank! Do you know where I could buy a replacement at all please?
Kind regards
Thanks, I got mine off eBay. I think there are a few different designs, so you'll have to find one specific to your van. Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
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do all vivaros have one if these I have a 2014 and I've run out of fuel it qont start
I've had lots of comments about it and some have them , some don't. If you've run out of fuel, it'll probably need priming somehow. If it's got an in tank pump, I would expect cycling the ignition until fuel comes out of the filter then down to the pump would do it. I've also heard of people having to use a vacuum pump to suck it up to the filter? Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Your the man 😜. Does the van have a diesel lift pump inside the fuel tank. I can't find info on the net! Any ideas? Cheers.
Some do, some don't. Mine doesn't, but another subscribers van of the same age and engine did??
Hi, can you tell me how to take the t shaped fuel pipe off the fuel pump? Vivaro 2005 1.9 cdti thanks
Hi, it's the same idea as the ones on the fuel filter. You'll probably find that the little button is hidden underneath, done just so you can't see it🤣. Push the fitting in, press the little button in (normally quite stiff) then pull it off. It sounds easier than it normally is to do, you can get pliers especially for the job. Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Would it be OK to put a primer bulb to the fuel line of a gasoline engine on a passenger car just before the carburettor to help hardstarting when vehicle is used infrequently.
I can't find the same pipe as yours. I ordered what said it was correct for my van but its not long enough.
Have you a link for the new fuel line with primer bulb please
I got mine from Ebay, here's the link
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284451789087
hope it helps🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop thank you 😊
@@rosspickering2247 No problems 😃
Where are you putting the trolley jack and stands?
I jacked it up under the B pillar (behind the sill) with a wooden block to spread the load. You will need to check this area is good and strong first as this area often rusts. The stands were under the subframe mounts.
This haopens to me every morning recently. It starts dies i go and squeeze the bulb a bit and it startd and drives fine all day. The bulb seems fine, it was replaced along with the filter when i bought it 4 years ago.
Do you think it cpuld be a the pump or a split somwhere?
Thanks
@@kdt85 . Probably a tiny little leak somewhere, it only takes a very small one to allow the fuel to drain back to the tank. I would probably start by checking the fuel filter seals and vent (good time to renew the filter if it's been 4 years anyway). Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
I repplaced my bulb and it does stay hard now at start up but theres quite large air bubles going down to the high pressure pump,,i cant imagine this is normal?
There shouldn't be any bubbles, air must be getting in somewhere. Finding it probably won't be easy, good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Out of interest, how long did it take you to pump the bulb before you got fuel to come through?
It was a while ago now. It didn't take long once the non-return valve was working, 10-15 pumps maybe?
Cheers Larcs 👍
Sorry I did not understand how you pumped the diesel in the end and where you put the oil, because I try to crush but diesel does not arrive
If you pump the bulb and fuel doesn't arrive you either have a leak or the non-return valve in the bulb is faulty or dirty. I put a bit of oil on my non-return to help it seal. Good luck 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
hello ,thanks to you I solved, instead of putting oil I put diesel ,and the car started,
you are a big😜, thank you from Italy
@@vanstar1908 Well done 👌 glad it's working ok now.
Cheers Larcs 👍
02:39 I have tons of small and a few large air bubbles travelling down this pipe constantly, should this be happening?
Once it's primed, you shouldn't really get any air in the pipework.
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@@LarcsWorkshop thanks for feedback, will have to look into this 👍
@@ifonly.4063 👍
Did you drop the fuel tank? The one I'm trying to get in goes round the back
No, I left the tank in place, I could just about reach mine from the front, it wasn't that easy though.
Hiya,I've put new fuel filter in my vivaro and now I can't get it to prime up with the bulb,it's not drawing any diesel up😭any solutions please👍
I had a similar problem, in the end I unplugged the filter outlet and used my finger as the non return valve i.e. squish the bulb then cover the outlet with your finger as you release the bulb the repeat. It also helps if you have plenty of fuel in it. Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Hello Mr Larcs, my vivaro sometimes won't rev and is quite sluggish.
From a quick search I reckon it's water in the fuel filter, is this a difficult fix?
Many thanks
Don't worry about the Mr, it's just Larcs. Fuel filter replacement and housing draining is quite easy. I did a service and cost breakdown that covers it, I think it's about 15mins in.
Here's a link to the video.
ua-cam.com/video/ai5EKzd8d9k/v-deo.html
Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop amazing, thanks very Larcs 👍
@@billysaunders544 No problems 👍
Hi how do you unclipped from tank thanks in middle of it on mine can't get my hands in lol
I remember it was awkward, but managed to squeeze my hand in eventually.
@LarcsWorkshop can get my hand in just can't squeeze lol
@@danielwilliamson6831 . You can get a tool to help remove fuel fittings, I think there's a link to one on my Amazon shop.
I'm having a problem now where my van is turning over for a while but starting up once its running its fine apart from the odd time when it's just started and I'm pulling off drive putting clutch in and brake and it trys to cut out but once its warm its fine. If I try and start it agter an hour of leaving it it will turn over for probably 10/15 seconds before firing . I know this is an old video but if anyone can help I'd be greatful
If you pump the priming bulb will it start straight away?
@LarcsWorkshop no still the same long slow start
@@lewiswheatley9586 Dodgy starter maybe?
@LarcsWorkshop could be ill give it a try I'm assuming these aren't easy to access most of the front end needs to come off?
@@lewiswheatley9586 mine is at the back and is a pain to get to.
The air bleed fitting is on the other side of the filter from the second hose you took off ( clean fuel to lift pump). It looks like your fuel feed from the filter has been replaced at sometime and the protection casing has not been put back. You should also have a plastic surround for the primer bulb.
Thanks 👍
Hey Donald can you help ? My priming bulb would not stay hard and I had 5/6 ,cm air bubbles going down to high pressure pump.ive fitted a new bulb with a pipe that goes down a metre or so into a quik connection and the bulb now remains hard but I still have big air bubbles,,also my computer says I can travel 350 miles but there's only £30 of diesel in the tank ,,any ideas what I'm missing? Thanks George,,PS With these faults the van intermittently goes injection problem ?
( Edit: Found some advice in comments, will do that.)) Anyone know how I prime without the bulb. My vivaro hasn't got one. Changed the fuel filter and now won't start. I put back clean fuel to level it was when I took old filter out thinking that would be OK, Any ideas please.
Maybe try cycling the ignition on and off a few times to get fuel up to the filter using the in tank pump?
Thanks Larc :)
@@juliescrafton1950 No problems, did it work?
No lol. It needed pumping up. I tried a piece of tube attached and sucking on it to syphon it up to get flow...and only got a trickle out. I gave in and phoned RAC, I remembered I have homestart :) guy came had special pump for it. Done! I guess that's what I pay for. Disappointed I couldn't do that bit myself but hey I did change fuel filter 1st time and learnt more. Thanks Larc
@@juliescrafton1950 Oh that's such a shame you had to call them out, at least it was free (hopefully?). Did they say it was a common issue? Anyway, you're all up and running now 👌.
Cheers Larcs 👍
mine does not have priming bulb, and it wont start any tip?
It might have an in tank pump? Check it's working by taking a pipe off the fuel filter and cycling the ignition, fuel should come pouring out.
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop Hi Larcs. Mine is the same as yours but like the previous commenter, I have no priming bulb (2002 1.9Di). I have replaced the intank pump/sender unit but still happens on occasion. I can get the van running on brake cleaner and then it runs. But will not fire on its own. I'm assuming it's sucking air in somewhere. Do you reckon replacing the fuel lines and adding a priming bulb is the next logical step? Thanks
@@GoProGeeks . If it's got an in-tank pump it should prime itself every time? Is the new one working properly? First thing I'd do would be to prove the pump by taking off the pipe from the filter, sticking the end in a jar and cycling the ignition. The pot should fill with fuel, then check the other side of the filter to check it's not blocked somehow. In theory, any issues after the in-tank pump should be leaking out, not sucking in? Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop new pump works fine. It was worse the hotter the weather was, its not done it for a few weeks now it's got colder. It would fire right up on brake cleaner and run fine for the rest of the day. Leave it over night and it would crank but not fire. Rinse and repeat. I think the fuel line is getting air locked, brake cleaner turning it over creates vacuum which socks fuel through? Could be completely wrong but that's all I can come up with now.
@@GoProGeeks Definitely sounds like a fuel problem. Could you run a temporary rubber fuel line to see if it improves?
Did this have a code
Not on mine, no.
How easy was the connection into the fuel tank? Any tips please
HI, the tank connection wasn't too bad once you get your hand to it. Just need to get the van as high as you can and use a mirror to see where it is. It does help if you're not the same 'stature' as me🤣. Good luck sorting it out🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop hi great video what was the connector like on the end of the pipe to the fuel tank..is it similar to the one that fits to the fuel filter housing
@@peterwatson4434 . Thanks, yes very similar to the one on the fuel filter IRC.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Damn...no such luck...bulb is doing no sucking whatsoever like the fuel lines are empty! Maybe fuel pump??
It's not unusual for the Non-return valve to fail or get sticky in the bulb. Try disconnecting the bulb outlet, squeezing it, put your finger over the end, then let the bulb expand (replacing the NRV with your finger). Keep doing it for a bit and hopefully you'll get fuel up, it does help if the tank has plenty in it. Good luck 🤞
A mouse ate through mine.
Oh blimey, I hope it got heart burn 😉.
I hope you get it sorted out too🤞.
@@LarcsWorkshop The call out man removed it completely and put in a bypass pipe. Thankfully had no problems. (famous last words)
@@anthonybox8016 hope it stays that way 🤞
Is it a 8mm primer bulb ?
I think it is IIRC.
@LarcsWorkshop thank you :) hopefully it sorts my problem too
@@c4r5on88 🤞