Homemade Log Lifter + Chainsaw Mill = Gravel Hauling 4 Wheeler Trailer #37
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- I've been trying to figure out how to lift logs by hand for over a year now in order to mill them with my Granberg chainsaw mill. I finally get a chance to try out my homemade log lifter on this project. First I have to cut down a hung up aspen and drag a log over to the sawhorses with the four wheeler. Not that spring is here in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, it's time to get the tractor out and move some gravel but there is no sense doing that until I line my four wheeler trailer (Yutrax TX159) with lumber so the sand doesn't just fall through.
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Hello
Just found your channel. I sat here in my wheelchair and love watching you. I am 81 years young
From what I’ve seen in my 6 mo of chainsaw milling. It’s a bit quicker if you pitch the far end of the log down to use gravity to help feed the mill.
Been doing that for 3 yrs now. Support at the bar nose helps immensely. Using the same rail system as you do. Nice work.
Ryan, the saw could be a couple things. If it is an arctic version, there is a little black plug on the saw. One way is winter use and one is summer. It changes the air flow to the carb. Another thing could be a dirty air filter. I typically use a compressor to blow it out but, in the woods I use a small copper wire bristle brush. Lastly, it could be air lock. Try unscrewing your gas cap before starting.
Great! Thanks for the info. Only thing I have checked is the air filter when it happens. For some reason, I didn't even think about the fact that often i get a hiss of pressure from the gas cap when opening it to fill. Not exactly sure where the air is let in/out to account for the gas level dropping while you are running the saw.
I'll look into all that you suggested.
Thanks!
Came here to mention the gas cap. Those 240/50/60 are notorious for it (vs my 261 doesn't). The pressure comes from the gas tank heating up, causing gas vapor to build up so you are right there isn't air getting in it's just vapor pressure!
@@survivingringworm2202 If you hear it hissing consistently that means air/pressure can't vent correctly. I would start with some simple things first cause I know you have put a lot of time on those saws, changing spark plug, fuel and air filters are cheap and while they may last a long time a new one every now and then can't hurt :) if it was me, after checking the spark plug, I would say the saw is out of tune. A saw may run well in winter but in hot temperatures the saw may be too rich or too lean. I imagine that saw has limiter caps on the carb so your limited to the amount of adjustment you can make unless you toss em.
@Ryan...... I believe Rich is correct, I'm betting your saw has the season plug/switch in it. There should either be a removable plug or slider switch inside case by fuel delivery.
Your exhaust also has a screen in it that may be clogged, not a bad idea too try for the price of the gasket. Much luck I dig your vidja’s man:)
I like your log lift. Another option for certain circumstances is have a base that fits in a receiver hitch. Not as flexible as your current design but could get you higher and you could stand in the pickup bed.
Great stuff. I've been watching several of your vids as I just found your channel.
A tip I noticed at around the 22 min mark, where you saw had dove into a bad cut, instead of getting your plates out and losing so much, just leave the previous board on there above the bad cut since it matches up. Then extend your mill cut to be a double thickness, say, instead of a 1" cut, make it a 2" cut. Or whatever you need to get through your bad cut. Then you dont lose so much from putting the plates on and making a thicker cut.
Keep it up. I've learned several good things already. I love your log lifter.
I'm new to this, so dumb question? Could not have come from the opposite direction on the 2nd cut, to remove it down to where it dove? Or is it gonna dip when it gets to where it dove an replicate that to all following boards?
You can make your lift as high as you want, put a pulley at the top and mount the winch on the back at a comfortable height. Would need an I-beam for the hook to ride on . It looks like the current design goes clear around the tube.
Cracking content. I haven’t got all day to look through the comments but it may have been said …if you made a gantry between the two trees. (endless chain or winch off the quad). Like the cross bar off the tent area. You could drag the timber through the middle of the horses and then swing around. Keep up the great work.
The cells of the Aspen tree start to deteriorate as soon as you cut them down. But if you peel the bark as soon as it's down it doesn't rot. The hill folk in the Ozarks love to use it for fence rails it cures hard and tough. They swear its tougher than any other hardwood if processed this way. By the way its awesome to hear you call it by its proper name, instead of popple. Its also where Asprin was discovered.
Thanks for the comment! I always pause when saying the name on video because it goes by some many different names around here. I still can't bring myself to call it a popple like the locals do!
The wood sure does cure hard but I haven't figured a ways to keep it from splitting as it dries out.
I thought aspirin came from willow bark?? I didn't know that.
@thankfullyredeemedmaderigh7436 it is in willow too.
It ( acetylsalicylic acid or "Aspirin) originally did come from Willow bark.
i have a lot to learn about chainsaws and chainsaw milling in particular. but aspen is a great light wood that contrasts very well with darker woods like walnut. it works great for drawer sides when you dovetail with those darker woods for small boxes etc
Ryobi has a awesome electric chainsaw. I bought it just for little stuff around the ranch but now I pretty much use it all the time. It has a lot more power than I expected plus no load noise or fuel to mess with. Great channel by the way.
Which one? I see a couple. :) Thanks!
What kinda of run time under a load are u getting? Electric chainsaw I had would only cut about 20 minutes
@@mikerhine2529 Probably around 45 minutes but I have 3 batters and I always have one charging in my truck so I can go all day if I need to. Now I'm not cutting trees down, just big limbs and small trees.
There’s a ‘winter / summer’ toggle up under the casing. Simple screw switch. It’s in the manual.
I think you're doing a fine job on your milling, keep up the good work! I like the log lifter!!
I like the slingshot bowling
I know they are just little logs in the yard. But pulling them backwards hooked high on the winch is a great way to roll your wheeler. If it gets caught on something the rearend comes up and it just flops over.
Remember to dress your bar after a dozen sharpening s or so. The bar developes a lip along the channel and marks up the wood also slows the cut time. A quick file run along the edge removes it .
I had the same diving problem and had to mill a new top surface just like you! I trued up the bar see my video) and carefully sharpened the teeth (see buckin Billy’s videos), and that eliminated the issue. A dozen 20”+ oak slabs later no repeat as long as I keep the teeth sharp. I realize this is a year late but hopefully it helps someone!
I truly appreciate your humor
When the temperature is hot and you are running the saw for long periods the saw can get really hot . When you turn it off you can boil the gas outa the carb, try choking it instead of switching it off. It will flud the carb and make it easier to start later
You are a genious.
From Spain, thank you very much.
make an A frame log walker... just an idea to help move heavy logs. And get ahold of Buckin Billy Ray's channel about tuning your saw. If he cant get it fixed, its yard art
Beautiful boards! Great job on the trailer lining.
I'm up in the Northern Lower near Petoskey if you ever need a hand.
I made a simler knife out of a leaf springs
and it has been used for cutting forty fore Gallon drums to gardening and has never bent or chipped.
Nothing like a case of ringworm after a little vacation with the family.
Ringworm really is the cure for so many things.
It's the "one strange thing that doctors don't want you to know about."
Super entertaining and you have a great sense of humor. I appreciate your videos.
Exactly what I have been trying to describe to someone who might be able to help me with this project !
I am paralyzed from my shoulders down, and dependent on help for almost everything !;
If you would have interest, I'd have you duplicate your log hauler for me !
Great work, and an even better design ! 😎
There's a plastic tab behind the air filter you have to pull out for summer operation and winter operation goes in
Clever idea with that log lifter. A good combination of brain and brawn without too much hassle.
I have a suggestion for you try making a double a frame at your mill spot join them together with a rather strong log then you can attach a chain fall to raise them onto your your horses. Just a suggestion & keep doing what you do its given me so many ideas ..
Aspen is slow to cure but when dry is rot resistant and very light and strong. Used for siding, and furniture as well as post fences.
Sandhill crane are really tasty. Ribeye of the sky.
what you accomplish with 0 budget is amazing. hope this channel grows and you get some more equipment / tools to accomplish more projects faster.
Thanks Nate. I'd never turn down the chance at some new tools to build more and more ridiculous things out here.
Who knows what the future holds for The Worm...
I see you do a bunch of dangerous/wrong/backwards sh1t, but I appreciate that you say “meh, f*ck it!” and you don’t treat it like an instructional video.
Love the videos!
Good video. The tree looks like cottonwood as opposed to aspen. That's a good thing as aspen are inter-connected and are best left standing.
That's amazing, I didn't think anything could be more dangerous than a couple handy man jacks, 😆
only dangerous if you don't know how to use them.
@@joesinakandid528 I've done some amazingly sketchy shit with up to four handyman jacks at a time 😆 and lived
Most people dont know that the filter has a summer and winter side. Check to see if your air filter is on the summer or winter side. There should be a little sun on one side and snowflake on the other
Oh yeah! Actually, one or the other of the two saws just has a little plastic tab that gets flipped over depending on the season. Can't remember if I've done it this spring.
I'll check.
@@survivingringworm2202 actually you are correct. Its in front of the filter. Not on the filter. Little piece of plastic!
Just too let you know this when wood get wet and you have bit tight fit, it get tighter after rain or moisture on it. Like boat sealed tight No water inside it. Next time you have split wood open crack and put glue in it and clamp it good as new. Those straight cuts with chain saw try Ryobi 7-1/2 or 6-1/2" circular saw 18v smooth cut on boards
You need a tri pod set up over your saw horse.
Attach your hand winch to the top of the tri pod. Then find center on your log and hoist it up there.
Think how farmers used to hoist pigs into a barrel to scald hair off.
Yep i get 8 foot 15 inch pine logs, they about blow every seal in my body back and sack out trying to lift and pull, push. I couldnt imagine a solid wood log... gonna try to fab me one of these for 24 inch 8 footers. Gotta be sneaky where i get my wood, forest service dont allow milling, cant get any thing longer than 7 foot now cut half way through in the middle. Nice device thanks for sharing. 👍👍
you are an amazingly resourceful and imaginative man. enjoyed this. thanks.
Hi,
A tip for use of aspen boards is in a "wet" room or a sauna.
If you sit in the sauna on the steam bench, the "lave", the aspen wood doesnt burn your back.
Very inspiring work. Keep it up, looks good.
Great Video. That isa real pretty piece of wood but if it fits your needs then pretty is just a non-issue. The trailer turned out really great. I was yelling 27 1/4 by 8 but I guess you couldn't hear me over the cranes. The bowling set looks really nice with the paint job. I guess you need to throw a score board into your projects for when you have visitors up that want to Bungie Bowl. Thanks so much for sharing.
A score board would be great! Might make one that can be transferred from the slingshot to the knife throwing, etc. Just another nail in each tree.
Ever used that chalkboard spray paint? It works remarkably well. Think I still have half a can here somewhere...
You need to build or buy a log arch so you can carry the logs out of the woods instead of dragging them and that would save you time of peeling the logs
The running problem may be its kind vapor locking due to over heating , there should be a summer , winter air setting on your cover either on the right side or in the middle. You may have to.look in your manuel but it's either a small plastic gate or a rectangle shape , open is winter closed for summer . Warm air in on carb in winter to warm up closed so not to heat up in summer . Most saws have these , most owners don't know it ! Hope it helps , also coil may be getting weak or fuel tank vent plugging up .
You need to put the saw on full choke then bump the switch up to normal run position and that puts the saw on high idle, which is where it is supposed to be on warn/hot starts
I spent much of my youth in the forests of the Colorado Rocky Mountains. We had very large Aspen groves, the trees had white bark and do not look anything like the trees you are calling Aspen.
saw a video of someone hauling large logs by putting the end you're pulling in a plastic garbage can so it doesn't get stuck in dirt or mud. It worked for him.
set up a gantry of sorts in the trees above your sawmill area and use a winch to lift .
Burke bars are amazing to move heavy items. We use on fully framed walls, logs, and anything else.
Man you need to get a mill that is some hard work to do with a chainsaw definitely have to be dedicated to hard work
Try using your mill beams as a straight edge for running your skill saw along for edge cutting save chalk and time
Must be satisfying to be independent. Nice work.
That's why they make the clamp to clamp the end of the chainsaw bar down so it doesn't twist on you
Well I made my 70cubic foot yard cart out of bed frames from scratch.
And used decking boards to make a solid bed and sides. It is pulled with my lawn tractor. It also dumps.
Suggestion for your log lifter;
Make it approximately 1-2 feet longer, construct a "U" top to the pole. Mount 2 turning blocks on top, redirect the cable downward and then you can mount the winch at a level where it is comfortable for you to use. this should achieve greater lifting height.
Love that idea! I had to pawn the cutting and welding off on a "professional" since the welder I have access to wont do thick stuff. But if I can come up with some scrap that's workable, I'm on it.
Thanks!
That is one great idea Ken!
didnt ... couldn't stay to the end, but youre amazing.: if the winch issue of "bad product doesnt resolve itself, consider have the winch designed more like a fishing pole, the line going up/overr, so the pole can be much longer, 10' ish. good luck! live your best life!
Log lift - great idea!
"... weird internal stresses ..." may well have come from the cut log laying at an angle for ? time. With that warped bar (which could have come from using the hand winch in the past) it's curious that something really whopper jawed didn't happen earlier.
Joe
little trailer looks wonderful. Good work.
Aspen log drums are another good use. Mine sounds gorgeous!
Really? I'll look it up!
I worked in a monument producer and we had a trucking co haul away waste pieces, chips, ect, the bottoms of the truck dump beds were sheathed with that wood, it was a good wear resister.
No kiddin?
Funny, the only thing I have repeatedly heard of people using that species for is the bottom of trailers!
I have a similar problem, so I'm going to get a small tractor with a hydraulic boom arm. I'll use it to lift big rocks in place when I work on the stone work.
Man, the only thing worse than trying to lift too-big logs is too-big rocks! You definitely need the tractor.
Vaper lock. Open and close the gas cap to equalize the pressure.
Lol i like how you talk to the camera to keep yourself from going insane 😂 smoking dabs and watching this video almost made me answer your questions 😂😂
Good morning to YOU!
Sweet log lifter! Loving your set up ad things i see so far. Howdy from the Michigan Manistee National Forest! New Sub ;)
Suggestion to Lift it up higher: Extend the base square tube by 3-5 feet, install a strong pulley/sheeve at the top, run your cable/chain over that pulley (you have just increased lifting power, too). Keep the winch down at a comfortable level.
With a screen name like that, you would of course come up with a great idea to make the thing better.
Fantastic thought!
Joe, if you made one could you post a pic? Thanks
That spike comes out and you’ve got a nice pelvis/leg crusher. Replace the spike with a loop of chain.
Could the adaptation to log tongs help as well?
Your welcome mate love the videos
I'll trade you 90 degree weather
Not a chance! That's not eve humane.
Weld an extension onto the lifter to make it 7-ft, instead of 5-ft... Or add a joint with a pin that can be set, so that it folds. Once the folding version is fully extended and pinned, there's a small pulley at the top, and the hand-crank is mounted where it's comfortable. The trolley/spike would have to have a "C" shaped cross section instead of a full square circumference, but it would still work. Or, the joint doesn't have to be hinged, it can be two pieces that insert at the joint. They can pop together with the outer sections being the same size, and the joint being a slightly smaller square pipe (6-inch section welded-in)...
Or make the beam as long as you need it and install a pulley on top of it and loop the cable over and back down to a comfortable working location and mount the winch, then you could bolt on some cable guides like eyelets on a fishing pole.
Very impressive, strictly top shelve work, sweet.
Kidneys, man!
Nice improvements on the slingshot bowling! I think Zach is at a slingshot conversation.
Much more fun with painted ammo and pins for some reason!
That's a back saver !! But a toe breaker !! Watch your feet for sure ! Great tool but could never make it in the current nanny state ...
Before I got my tractor I'd just pick that log up myself. Now I use the grapple
I've found especially with Stihl products when they start losing power (after checking the air and fuel filters) take the spark arrestor screen out of the exhaust and clean it with a wire brush if it is rusted/dirty looking.
I love your channel bro. You look like my brother, and you act like me. I envy you so much, you have no idea. Keep up the good work bro, you're doing everything just right, the hell with everybody else.
that's a pretty work site
Ryan there are several options for moving heavy logs onto your milling stand. The first thing I think of is as a firefighter we use a tripod and and 4 to 1 haul system for our confined space rescue. You could cut three nice cedar trees and fashion a 4:1 system on it to maneuver logs on. Another method is a simple "A" frame log crane. These work great and I have used them in the woods for moving logs and down trees off of trails. Also a few boulder too.
I had the same issue with my former Husqvarna chain saw where it would not start and bog down after being hot. I tried the air cleaner, new bar, and it ended up being the ignition wires / coils were going bad. When they heat up they cook off the varnish insulation and become less effective in creating a spark that is hot enough to ignite the fuel air mixture. Once I replaced the mag coils the thing ran great until the carb went.... again. Husqvarna is Viking for Pull harder and again and again if you didn't know.... I have a Stihl now.
Pictured in this article is a very large A frame crane. Just search the term and Pinterest has a bunch of info too.
www.conwaydailysun.com/news/local/jackson-community-comes-together-for-old-fashioned-timber-raising/article_6ee00990-e38f-11e8-a4c1-efe0422f8156.html?.com&
Keep the sawdust flying. It's good for the 40+ men's skin care.
Thanks for all the info, Dan.
I really need to relocate the milling area and set up a block and tackle system to lift the logs. But the list of stuff I'd like to do gets longer and longer and it seems there is always something more pressing (fun) to do.
Just put new plugs in the saws today so will see how they run. Filled the bigger one up with gas and oil, threw it on the four wheeler, then found out I hadn't put the bar oil cap on all the way. It looked to me like the saw was puking. Maybe the saw gods don't want me messing with it?
Will take a look at the A-frame shortly!
The Outsider channel. The son and Dad built an a frame for lifting logs to get them where they could get them hooked to the tractor, and many other uses as they built an off grid cabin in the woods of Canada. I hope you look them up and get some ides you can use.
You could put a cheep blue tarp in the trailer to hall the gravel on .
anyone can just do that, be creative
Love to make a decent log lifter....yours does a good job
Not too sure but I have always been taught never to use the winch line to drag/pull unless it’s via the winch motor because all the force gets put backwards and ends on the tiny sun gear which is easily stripped. I can’t confirm if that true but it does make sense. I know mile marker has the ability to lock theirs for this very reason.
Heres a tip my grandfather taught me: if there's a lot of bugs, pour just a little bar and chain oil on your hard hat and smear it around and the bugs will stick to your helmet instead of going after you.
I'd bet $100 that works! I always wondered why so many flies and gnats were always stuck to the side of the bar oil bottle where the oil had dripped.
@@survivingringworm2202 Some oils like that have some fish oil in it. It's not that synthetic oils wouldn't work (they do), it's just that so many fish get caught and processed to make entree fillets and fish sticks, there's just a LOT of fish head-oil as a waste product available to do something with. Fun fact, WD-40 has some fish-oil in it, along with a lot of other stuff.
You my boy. May be sawing a piece of Ironwood.
we got ironwood here in Hawaii and doesn't look like it. does'nt look like aspen either
Very nice loved the Kidneys comment @9:48 been a long time since hearing it and using it LOL
We used to make our own abalone tools from leaf springs, when there used to be abalon'es in the ocean! Bet they would make a great debark tool due to it's slight curvature. 😉👍
The mesh. Expanded Metal. Your saw, might be the diaphragm in the carb has a hole in it. Or the hose/tube that comes from the crank case has a pin hole. Having to pull the rope that many times. Or just might be as simple as a clogged fuel filter. Amazon has the carb, all hoses filter even a new rubber manifold that connects carb to the jug. For around 30 bucks. Just replaced all on an old 044. First pull after it's warm now.
Even a small Knick in the chain can cause it to pull to one side as well. Good opportunity to practice proper sharpening techniques. A great resource is Buckin Billy Ray’s channel!
Debarking on the ground saves ton of weight also
Suggestion .... try installing a winch on the back of your ATV ..... I got the idea from a friend and seriously, it's one of the smarter things I've done !!
Greater friction inside hot engine resists movement of crank and piston. Ergo it wants to cool off and rest awhile. Same thing happens to the engine on my riding mower when the ambient temperature is over 70º. I've, actually, had mower engine fail to turn over on electric start after turning off on a hot day. So, I tend to not mow on a hot day.
Take your lifter and start lifting the other side then leean the lifter forward to push the opposite side onto the logcrutch
Hi, the chainsaw not starting and running sluggish can be several things. What I would do, just in order of easiest and cheapest, eliminate one at a time.
Simplest to eliminate, do you adjust your jets as needed with the season? It can make the saw run hotter than it should and your fuel is vaporing where it should not, then kinda a vapor lock after it cools a little. Wears a saw out premature too.
Fuel lines or a little piece of dirt in the carb can cause it too. Me, I'd rev it wide open, pull the choke for a split second, not quite long enough to kill it, about ten-fifteen times, might suck an obstruction through. You can do the same thing but take the air filter off and use your thumb to stop the air, it works some times.
Diaphragm in carb can have a warm only leak, boots/line/gasket that run fuel pump in carb can have warm only leaks, overlooked alot, and easy to miss. Coils can act up in hot weather too.
Betting adjusting jets would do it?
Thanks for the info Rick!
Soon as it stops raining, I'll head out and try your ideas.
I used to work for a tree company and Todd ( the owner / operator ) would always tell us to not leave the chainsaw in the sun it causes the gas tank to swell and in Florida where we were at can vapir lock the lid on the saws. Also can add pressure to the gas line and make it harder to run ... idk how true all that is with the running harder 🤷🏼♂️
If the winch was mounted to a sliding mount and a roller at the top of an extending tube then it could be adjusted for any height
You need a brace for your lifting contraption. Then you can slide the saw horse over.
As always, enjoy your videos 👍👍
Slingshot bowling... brilliant 🤣👍🤔
hi Ryan, I've watched a few of your videos now, and coincidentally just got a holtzforma G660 and alaskan style mill when I watched your video of your ms661 - nice upgrade ! I love your log lifter also, I'm gonna make one of those, it looks pretty easy to make, just a little cutting and welding. Take care brother.