iPad Pro M4 VS iPad Pro M2! What’s REALLY New?!
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- Let's go hands on with the new M4 iPad Pro (2024) and compare it to the M2 iPad Pro (2022) to see what all the differences are and how much they make a difference! Is that new chip and OLED display worth upgrading? Or maybe you should consider the new iPad Air!
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0:00 Intro
0:09 Design
1:07 Displays
2:55 Front-facing camera
3:08 Rear camera
4:00 Apple Pencil Pro
4:16 Magic Keyboard
4:34 M2 VS M4 Chips
5:19 Benchmarking M4 chip
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I thought Apple’s thinnest product ever was the polishing cloth 🤔
😂
Hahaha! Got em!
And the Apple sticker… 😂
even apple's cables
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’m keeping the M2 iPad Pro
Thanks. Now I’m sure I’ll stick with the M2 iPad Pro.
Nice!
Me too
@@AppleInsiderA curious question: Are there people over eighty years of age who are very elderly people who own modern smart phones???
I think I’ll stick with my m1
Same here
How does the display compare with Samsung S9 tabs?
The OLED is very noticeable. The landscape camera placement is a godsend!
Battery wise ??
What is AV1 decoding? If i create video, how does it help? Why does it matter?
This video is a bit of an exaggeration, I purchased the new 13 inch and while it is an upgrade, it’s a very small one. My 2020 iPad screen was broken and honestly, I would be sending one this back,since that let down. If my other one wasn’t broken would be back. You literally have to have the screens right next to each other to see the small difference. My new one just came in today and I was kind of expecting to be blown away but it’s really no different at all than my 2020 iPad Pro. If you’re thinking about upgrading and don’t have to, I just don’t see the point. Oh and the new speakers built-in, kind of suck. I think it has to do with the fact that they’re trying to make it so thin, but there is a noticeable drop in speaker quality that hit me right away.
Nah this video is spot on, just upgraded from 11” M2 Pro to 11” M4 Pro myself, picture is better/brighter, for certain apps M4 is much snappier, love that it is lighter, magic keyboard 7 Pencil Pro better quality, love this new devise and will for years to come!
@@FFCOACHDAN I will agree that it is a bit snappier though. I’m sure that will substantially add up overtime as the programs take more resources and the operating system. The screen is just not that big a difference in my opinion. The pencil is basically identical, besides the push button feature, but that’s kind of a minor thing in my opinion and lame that they didn’t make it backwards compatible. I just don’t see the reason upgrade for many people unless they unlock iPadOS substantially at WWDC. The speaker quality is definitely a downgrade though from my 2020 and may not matter to some.
@@FFCOACHDANhow did you find the speakers?
@@ktms1188i’m getting my first ipad, should i get an older one or get the new one?
@@SamAIMS In all honesty, if at all possible, I would wait for WWDC in a couple weeks. See if apple releases something that needs the power. If not, I would reallly look into the apple refurbished store and get some crazy good deals at time on basically new iPads with warranty’s.
The m2 ipad pro 12.9 is the best big ipad to currently buy based on the overall value. Not even close
A top of the range Rolls Royce has limited value but still sells and makes profits. Value is subjective. The iPad Pro is aimed for people with high disposable incomes that would drop $3000 without thinking twice. It does not make it bad value for them. Anyway the base iPad 10 and iPad Air are the models for the average consumers. Denigrating the iPad Pro because 99% of us cannot afford it is very narrow-minded. We need great tech like this even at these extreme prices as their features will eventually end up on cheaper models.
@@andyH_England that is not entirely true. These devices are aimed for pro users who use it for their professional career. Apple is not asking the average consumer of products to go any higher than their base iPad. Their events state as such. They arent asking someone who cant afford them to buy their products. Same way nobody is telling me to buy a Rolls.
@@andyH_England This is very false, luxury items are not great value per definition. They are meant to be expensive either due to just being pricey or because they're enabling the makers to spend excessive amounts on otherwise small features.
Your example simply does not make much sense from a literary standpoint. The new iPad pro is not even a "luxury item" in any perceivable comparison to a rolls royce. It's a mass market product. iPads are not just bought by very rich people it's a very common item for the masses. Value does not even have a technical definition, but logically it follows that it's based upon stationary points on the price/performance curve. Wherever that may be. Again, your comment here simply does not make sense.
@@fVNzO@fVNzO I was talking about iPad Pros, which Apple expects to sell only 5 million in 2024, a tiny percentage compared to 135 million total iPad sales in 2023. IPad Pros are niche and luxury, aimed at consumers with high disposable incomes who will buy the maxed-out version without thinking twice. For the average user, >95% an iPad 10 or Air is the sensible choice. I stand by my initial comment.
@@andyH_EnglandThat's also still, mass market. In 2023 rolls royce sold 6000 cars. The comparison does not make any sense. "value" can only clearly be stated based on stationary points on price/performance curves. That's just the obvious, and only sensible way to look at it.
iPad Pros are not aimed at people who just spend money to spend money. It's just another computer. I see plenty of students with ipad pros, they go on sale regularly, there are student discounts and fire sales for older models every year. It's just another apple device truly. So i don't get why you're trying to suggest its this mythical device for the elite?
Hey my main question and concern is about the battery; it’s smaller on the 13 inch, so how does it compare?
I thought long about this Nano glas but decided to go with the regular one for sharpness and contrast
What’s the comparison with respect to RAM?
Where you able to do a speaker comparison between the old vs. new iPads? If so what did you discover?
Is it recommended to add a screen protector?🤔
Yes! I didn’t need my Pro M1 anymore, so I sold it. Used it since launch date mid 2021 with a screen protector. When taking it out before selling it I saw the screen was flawless, making a great cash back from it
Hi. I have a gen 1 iPad Pro cellular and I am now looking to update it. I don’t game or really stretch the software capabilities but i do want to be able to run ms 365 on it and use it as a lightweight laptop / netbook and look at pictures / images (not photo editing). Is the M2 chip 2022 iPad Pro model up to the task? Thanks
100% it can do even more than you stated above. I am also going to pick up 12.9 inch ipad pro M2 as soon as it gets hefty discount. Basically if you are not a tech nerd i will tell you in a nutshell what has really changed keep aside apples fancy marketing.
CHANGES
1. Mini Led display has been changed to OLED.
2. Camera position has changed to landscape
3. New Chip
4. Nothing really has been changed other than this.
Do you think for this minor upgrade you will spend extra half a grand.
Think about it.
@@vibhavkoul5444 thanks very much for your input 👍🏻
@@vibhavkoul5444I wanna get m2 iPad Pro 11", That's same price as m2 iPad Air 13".
The best deal ever. ❤
Get the M2 with the physical SIM tray. M4 only have eSIM
What M4 chip were those bench tests on? Just curious if the 3 performance cores on the 9 core M4 preforms that much better than the 4 performance cores on the M2. I don’t plan on going into the TB level for an iPad.
I think I mention in the video, this is the 10-core version. The nano-textured glass is only available on the 1TB and 2TB models, and those ones also come with the 16GB of memory and the 10-core CPU.
@@AppleInsider So are you aware of any benchmark comparisons of the 9 core 8 gb version? At this stage of the iPad game, this chip set is going to be the more popular. When you get to the 10 core price point you might as well get a MacBook.
@@jeffsancricca7041MaxTech did comprehensive tests and the 9-core is only a small downgrade in benchmarks, form around 6-12% depending on the benchmark. In real-life use they are very close. I certainly would say that if you are going for the 10-core, it is more to do with getting 16GB than the extra performance. With the on-device LLM coming the 16GB model will be useful.
@@andyH_England then I should be fine with the 8Gb. Although overkill my iPad Pro is my audio control workhorse. The lighter design really appeals to me. Pretty apprehensive about running around an auditorium with a $1300 device let alone a $2000 one
Comparing camera almost nobody uses and zero comparison of speakers given the difference in chasis??
yeah im waiting for one reviewer who tests speakers, I can't believe for the first time in my life I'm waiting for a Max Tech video lmao
@@makeitrainnarenlol plus he’ll play that same song lol
Does the new one fit the cases from the 2022?
I have no idea, but they always seem to tweak their products just enough to require a new case. How else would they make any money? 😵💫
My little brother pre-ordered the newest iPad Pro 13 inch in the colour silver 256gb on the 7th of May and he got it today and he loves it and its beautiful 😍 😍 I think it's perfect for university thanks for the video ❤️
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Would like to see a comparison between ipad pro m2 vs ipad air m2 🎉🎉🎉
The nano is awesome I love it
I love your shirt! Do you remember where you got it? 😅🙏🏻
Canyon a video of the ipad pro 11 vs the samsung 11 please
One thing my new M4 iPad can do that the ones before couldn’t is playback 5k H 264 video!! Runs smooth on this iPad
I like iPads for reading and watching movies so this new iPads will be good because of its build it so slim and it will not make my hands feel tired like the video thanks for your work
No mentioned about the function keys or more easy typing experience cos the screen doesn't get in the way of the number keys?
Jerryrigs sorta shows bendgate 2.0 when bent vertically it doesn’t do well at all…landscape was good mind
I think it would be helpful for viewers to have a sound comparison test.
curious where the line goes from here, esp with the deletions. dont think they can get much of any thinner or lighter and it's a Pro product, not an Air product. i dont want them to lose the USB-C port and that'd be necessary for any further meaningful reduction
Gotta think foldables will be coming in the next couple cycles.
@@jarail thats my worry. cause i hope ipad adds a lot more excitement in future years than just folding. dont see where even the folding would add much other than slight portability esp for if they develop andeven greater size(s) such as 15-18 inch and the fulfilling the ease of fitting it into a bag/backpack could be nice. but otherwise folding tablets dont seem too exciting
Ok so it’s worth upgrading from the M1 to M4. Thanks for the video!
Yes, M1 11-inch to M4 11-inch as you go from an IPS panel to OLED. The 13-inch M1 had miniLED so the display quality difference is less, though SDR obviously more punchy on OLED. The M4 will be AI ready and it depends on WWDC as to how much difference the chip makes.
Almost pulled the triggered and bought the 13 today but I already have 12.9 M2. can anyone else notice a real difference with the displays as this would be the main factor for me
Once u go oled u never go back the display itself is a upgrade worth the money
I brought my M2 12.9 inch in to the apple store to compare and the oled is better, but not by much imo. And mine is cellular with the mmwave which went away with the m4.
I haven’t seen in person the m4 13inch pro. I’ve talked myself out of buying everyday. But, my 12.9 M2 screen looks $$uper great to me!
I looked at Apple‘s website comparison page: The m2 Pro and it‘s specs chip-wise are very similar to the new m2 air. Otherwise, the only temptation to me is the Apple Pencil Pro or the potential favor towards m4 that might come with iPadOS 18 and beyond.
There‘s been a lot of noise from the rumor mill. Gamers and casual users have different expectations. I prefer the hands-on real life users creating art, 3D and 2D, graphic artists, and animations. That‘s Apple‘s core from when they made fonts look great onscreen.
You also forgot that millimeter wave was removed from the new M4 iPad Pro.
Wasn’t that in the US only. In the UK we have never had millimetre wave. So I assume Apple has decided to keep them all the same especially as my-wave isn’t that useful.
Where’s the normal size? The 11”.
Digitizing my art work as cataloguer
Just bought mine today, why it doesn’t have macOS yet with the M4 is beyond me! 🤦🏼♂️
Apple did some interviews and said they never intended iPadOS to ever incorporate macOS and they double-downed on that by adding that it will “never happen”. The iPad is complementary not a rival to Macs. Even MS have said they will never make the same mistake again of trying to blend two UIs. Their attempt with W8 was deemed an unmitigated disaster costing them billions, and meaning they have become totally irrelevant in the tablet market. No sane sensible person would suggest repeating history.
@@andyH_Englandpeople keep quoting this Tim Cook interview from 2015, when iPads released. Ignoring that more recent advertising for the iPad tries to sell it as a Mac replacement, like in 2022 when they were announcing the new iPads and used the line “Your next computer isn’t a computer.”
@@JeffMyers409 it is a replacement computer for some. But to claim it is a replacement for every person with another laptop would be ludicrous. Over 600 million ipads sold, so clearly, it has replaced many people's laptops.
@@andyH_England the issue is we’re starting to get diminishing returns on the iPad. Especially with performance. Even just looking at this generation, there’s testing that shows there’s no difference in performance whatsoever between the 8gb and 16gb RAM models. Which has been the same since the M1 models, because the iPad with iPadOS simply can’t utilize the hardware put into it. The only reason to keep pushing hardware upgrades is if you plan on making the iPad more like a Mac.
@@JeffMyers409 The 16GB version is very niche at the moment. In Procreate, it will be useful as the developer allows 12GB to be used for layers. But speaking to an AI specialist, they said 16GB will be a major advantage when Apple releases their on-device LLM. That is why all Snapdragon X Elite laptops will have a minimum 16GB. of RAM for AI.
So, this may change, but assuming the new AI is useful to you or me.
M2 iPad Pro vs M2 iPad Air 🤷🏾♂️
Yes! I’ve been looking for a video for this can’t see much weirdly. Doing the apple site comparison, the older pro has so much more going for it than the newer air. It is still quite pricey though. I’m seeing the OLD pro for an extra £200 over the NEW air.
M2 IPad Pro claps m2 iPad air
I’m using my 2 right now!
2:49 in Display but is videos📹 now
M2 pro or M4 pro what is best brother 😢
M2, the best deal for price amd softwere update.
I think comparisons aren’t hugely valuable yet till WWDC and we get to see how they’ll handle the the new AI based software. Till then they are both more powerful than what they are asked to do. Mini Led is fine.
Bought the m2 11 inch few months ago on sale, i don’t regret it at all, the m4 isnt really that much better and im really almost never gonna need more power than the m2 already has
M4 isn’t that much better? 50% cpu upgrade and 4x gpu
@@redeem5858 tell me honestly when you would notice that difference? Mabye only in the very few heavy apps the ipad can run.
@@daan2299 Probably when more console games are ported
@@redeem5858with what apps can you take advantage of that upgrade
@@redeem5858 i have a playstation, could not imagine using my ipad for any heavy games lol
Will stick with my Samsung Tab S9 to do all that for now...
😭
Look, the Tab S9 isn't bad at all. It's a great budget tablet! But just because something says "OLED!" doesn't mean it will "do all that."
To start, the Tab S9 uses a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. That chip is less powerful than the iPhone processor. It's multi-core Geekbench score is around 5200 -- almost one THIRD of the performance of the iPad Pro.
That OLED in there, it looks nice. But it's also only around 400-500 nits depending on the model. There's a reason Apple had to put TWO panels in here when it switched to OLED. It's not bright at all! Apple used two panels to get its 1000 nits of brightness which makes a huge difference in use.
I'm just touching on those two things because those are the touted new features here, but there's a big reason that the iPad Pro is where it is. Sure, other things can have OLED but they're a far cry from this.
I miss the intro music 😢
I like that they made all of those changes but a lot of them I think is all accessible via a software update. We did get a new chip, which I like a lot but it’s still looks like a carbon copy of my 2018 iPad Pro that I currently have. Other than they moved the front facing camera, that’s it. It still looks exactly the same in the front where you’re gonna be looking the most at. So I wouldn’t consider it all new. Not even a redesign. Other than it is thinner.
That’s why I’m not upgrading from my 2018 iPad Pro to the 2024 model. All because it’s still looks the same six years later.
@@ShawnMKouriand it ll still be
Yeah, I have been holding off a couple of years buying an iPad Pro since it hasnt changed since 2018. I was really let down that the rumored shrinking of the bezels didnt happen. I was really expecting that. So buying a 2024 iPad that looks and feels like a 6 year old one feels really meh.
The design is already at peak. They can’t really changed anything. Its already perfect.
@@victuringan1429 oh god no, I don’t agree in the slightest. You have to open your mind to the possibilities
If I could get a reasonable price for my m1 IPad Pro I will sell it and get the new 13 IPad Pro
One of the problems with the reviews I have seen until now is that the reviewers are comparing the weight of the new iPad Pros with the weight of the last versions. Most of us considering buying a new iPad comes from older models like my 2018 12.9 inch and here the weight reduction is cut in half compared with a 2021 or 2022 model. I would not mind someone comparing how the new ones feels in use compared with a 2018 model with regard to handheld use.
Considering the fact that those ipads are still pretty capable in themselves, it's still not a good reason to upgrade to this. Especially with how much it screws over people that have accessories made for the other models.
Well this wasn't a review, but a comparison video. So my stated goal was just to compare the M2 versus the M4 models. That said! The M4 still weighs less than the last three 12.9-inch iPad Pros. The 6th and 5th were both 1.5lbs while the 4th was 1.41lbs. The 3rd gen was still 1.39lbs. This new model is only 1.28lbs!
Basically, nothing much.
A 2018 iPad Pro can pretty much do the same thing for much less.
Why in 2024 would Apple release a premium device with their most powerful chip, yet with only WiFi6E and not WiFi7?
If I had the 11 I would upgrade, but the 12.9 is still awesome.
Thinner and faster for a big mobile os lol
The battery health is in settings on the new one. It needs to be on all models
It won’t be.Get over it.
Yes, it is! But it definitely won't be arriving on older tablets. Just the new ones going forward.
@@davidjacobs6244 troll, get a life and do a better job trolling. Fyi it is rumored to come on the next iPadOS update.
@@AppleInsider thanks, I thought it was coming to the m1 as well.
@@disastermaster1413I was told it will only come to new iPads and phones due to the algorithms and AI needing to run from new. That is, the feature does not work properly if you have already used your tablet for a while. You can go to “Analytics” and get this info on older tablets and iPhones but this is not as accurate as the new system.
Just reading off the specs like all other reviews😢
No side to side screen comparison 🤦🏻♂️
How spoiled do you need to be to refer to the Mini LED display as "Old"? Is still about add new as oled would be here.
Not sure what you're driving at here. AppleInsider is a news outlet that's been around since the 90's covering Apple news. We cover these devices on a daily basis. Here, the OLED is the new model while the Mini-LED is the old, discontinued model. The Mini-LED model is a year and a half old at this point.
No the mini led is old.
$1,800 isn't worth it to come from a 12.9 to a 13 inch maybe if they had went to a 14 inch maybe
The size isn't what is really new. There are other changes like the M4 and the OLED tech.
Oled is worth it
A curious question: Are there people over eighty years of age who are very elderly people who own modern smart phones?!??
Would have bought one, but they went stupid and made it thinner. No one wants it thinner thicker, please, with more battery.
Not worth the upgrade
Yo Tim, should we put wifi 7 in the new iPad Pro? No bro, wifi6-e. But that’s the same speed as last years model, bro do what we do, send out an update to slow the wifi speed in last years model. Good thinking Mr. Crook, that’s why they pay you the big bucks.
So WiFi 7 was only certified in January of this year. Yes, some products have arrived in the market with it but many used pre-release versions then submitted for certification after with the assumption/hope it would pass. Apple wouldn’t do that. They’re working on making their own more power efficient wireless chip. It wasn’t rumored to show up in these and Apple is never the quickest to adopt WiFi tech. Especially since very few people have WiFi 7 routers yet.
@@AppleInsider I’ve had my wifi 7 router for over 7 months. Speed test on my existing wifi-6e iPad has been consistently the 1Gbit up/down that I’m paying for until I installed iPad OS 17.5 beta. Now I consistently get 800Mb down and 500-600 up.
@@lesjean8530 yup. Like I said, came out uncertified and applied for it after. It wasn’t finalized until January. Technically it could have changed up til then. I was at the launch
Already lost interest in your opinion when you show them and say it’s so much thinner when it’s clearly not. It’s thinner by a fraction.
Oh so nothing is new.
Cope is insane
LOOOL I BOUGHT IPAD(((
I do like the new pencil ✏️
It's pretty great! I love the squeeze gesture
What’s really new between the two?? Not much buddy! It’s thinner? So what!! If the M2 was heavy for you maybe getting a gym membership would help that problem It’s still just a IPAD running IPAD OS and that’s limited Do you need a M4 chip to read Emails and watch UA-cam videos on??? The M2 was fine for that
New iPads are very cool, especially the screen, but just can’t justify upgrading from an M1.
M4 iPad Pro is awesome! It’s way better than M2 iPad Pro!
Burn in and the price is what you'll notice that's new
Nothing. Apple will have nothing in store for WWDC, as it has been for the last 6 years.
So, thinner for the same overpriced keyboard, a stupid fugly wart on the corner, no real benefits on battery, and the fact that software still does not use most of it. Sorry, but this does NOT replace a laptop. iPadOS sucks, sucks, sucks for professional use and that is part of the reason we only see a smattering of apps that even try to utilize the hardware. OLED is great, but again, with a iCrapOS, it is still just a toy. Oops, I should not forget, it comes in new colors. That is the piece that makes it valuable to professionals.
So sick and tired of thin, light being the defacto accolades of Apple products. I would bet that the reviewer here still has a MacBook in that bag, which means it truly has NOT replaced anything. So, yes, it is nice to have it thinner and lighter, so you can still keep that laptop in the same case you carry around, rather than holding Apple's feet to the fire to actually fix the iPadOS or put the macOS on it, like it should have from day 1.
But, wait... iPadOS 18 will add AI, a crap load of new emojis/animojis and that will make it worthy. Worthy of a segue to the Sponsor: Apple. I remember when Apple Journalists had the guts to call Apple out.
The iPad Pro is currently a Ferrari with a V12, a $5 cheap license plate frame on the front grill (camera bump) and a 2" steering wheel and a three speed automatic transmission to actually drive it. In a month, they will add Rosanne Barr in to replace Siri and proclaim it can actually tell the time and maybe do something beyond setting a reminder and sometimes actually turning on a lightbulb.
I actually took time out of my life to read your bs rant. Grow up and get a life dude. It isn’t that serious. Some people don’t have a lot of money to buy a MacBook Pro and can easily get one of these through their carrier on a monthly plan.
Still the best selling tablet in the world 🤷🏻♂️ No competition. Period.
Lol my comment was deleted ok UA-cam
I just wasted my time reading your rant. Highly unnecessary rant.
@@victuringan1429 agreed well said
No one wants to compare side by side on MiniLed vs Oled. Sellouts