Honestly, I think it's ok and they should leave it like that, it's feel more fair than getting PL'd in the pit, at least here you make the effort to recover the caches
@@SuperTimmmi I don't mind people getting PL, but PL has always been a sensitive subject in the world of video games, as it leads to practices that are often unwanted by devs (payd services). At the moment, if you don't play in a group or if you don't have buddies in the game, you're fucked, but with xp in caches, the balance has been redressed: those who want to up their rerolls with their buddies can do so as before, but the others have an alternative method of doing it themselves.
Everyday I am reminded that I am not intelligent. I can't believe I never thought of that. I saw those XP globes and never thought of just giving the caches to my ults. SMH.
What I do for caches is the 2 abominations in PvP zones, look for Undercity bounty because it can be cleared in like 2 mins, Boss bounties just to I have a reason to do the besides just loot and mats, Legions/World Bosses if they are up, and just speedrun through dungeons since they removed a lot of the mechanics that made dungeons annoying to clear quickly. You can pretty easily get 5+ caches every reset
Nice, thanks for sharing this, will make it easier to lvl another character in the season. Honestly spiritborn is not really that exciting to play for me. I will obviously make a weaker character, but one I enjoy to play with at least.
Been saving them for when alts hit 60 as they drop glyphs, can boost to 60 in 15 mins with a friend but took me ages on one of my alts for the 3 glyphs I needed to drop
Wudijo, problems I have encountered seething opals not working after rank 5, only get rep during realmwalker events and seething realm during hordes, if you pick the elite exploding one, you do not get aether for the other fiends or hellbornem bug or feature ? Varshan's barrier is still temperamental, mostly I can get through no problem but occasionally he will take a few mins longer because he doesnt let it down even when staggered or knocked down
@@trev6783 I thought the same as it shows locked. But it only locked to you opening it. Your friend can select the leave and open the port and you can enter it. Just stay at entrance until the he clears to the portal and then wait at the entrance of the second area until the guardian portal opens. Stay where you portal in at the boss as you don’t have to be in his room to get the xp. There are invisible mobs so have your carry attack everywhere so ya don’t get killed.
@@WanderingRogue1forgot I made this comment. You are correct, I had used something other than a whisper cache. This whisper cache xp leveling method does still work.
Paragon XP is permanent so you also take a big hit to season progression throwing all the cache XP at levels 1-60 instead, hopefully this stays in as there's a already a big downside.
Nice wudi, tnx man. I hit paragon 250 btw 🙂 one question bro, whats the best para farm on solo? I think pit lvl doesnt matfer like in d3, did u find it odd too?
I'd think stack buffs like opal, elixir and incense always to start with. Then normal nightmare dungeon have this xp fountain thingy that gives you another 15% for an hour. All do get removed from relog though. About best xp.. Think Raxx said it's Infernal Hordes. And I can see it. With a good clear build you get massive amount of mobs.
@@teapea8184 Yeah I have been doing nightmare dungeons to get xp shrine, then when I have it load up 10 round infernal hordes until xp buff is gone. Seems super quick xp.
I tryed this with one cahce... not working already. (EDIT: You need to level at least a bit, before try it! I went to level 2 and test again and it worked) (EDIT 2: I think the first cahe i used was a world boss reward one)
If this is expansion specific it isn't for everyone, I haven't seen any of these xo boosts and have done so many whisper caches. But im not on t4 either so I don't know.
I think if you turn in the quest with the XP pool buff you get the xp globes. Have not tried to prove this, but that is my two cents. Edit: Tested it out and no, it is not how it works. /headscratch
@@paulwilliamson3192 maybe, but you don’t get exp on your alt when doing that’s could be an interesting race, where 1 streamer levels up doing it all on an alt but the other does the caches on their main and opens all of them on the alt
I've opened caches up to T1 and never seen those exp globes before. Do they only appear if you open them as a different character, or only if they were acquired at certain difficulties?
grind the caches... put the caches in the stash... make new char... open stash... take caches... open caches = profit... he just showed it in the video... didn't you watch it?
But how long does i take to farm 30+ whisper caches Thats a few houers. And in that time you can lvl alot anyways by playing the game. But anyways nice to know 😊
What you prob want to do is while you are mix maxing to not open those chest and save them, then when you go to your new character you use them to give you a boost, this way you maximize time invested
I mean it's not like caches are just exp and nothing else. You get get them passively while playing and might aswell open them on a new char. You lose out on paragon exp, but caches do not really contribute alot of exp toward that anyway (the turn in does).
i mean if your just adding in a couple dungeons here and there. you can probably build em over a reasonable time pretty easily. especially useful if your bad at speed leveling, or have someone to carry you through pit.
Paragon is based on the highest lvl character. His other character(s) has already reached that. So when he hit the normal cap (level 60) it goes to where his paragon is.
Great, but Blizzard should immediately give you the option to advance to level 60, and preferably paragon 150. This isn't a damn cRPG to bother with leveling. It would be best if respec was free. I want to test my spiritborn builds and have fun, not bother. And all those whiners, be quiet or change the game.
Are you we todd did? You think one of the world's top D4 players couldn't have thought of doing this on his own? He streams 15+ hours a day, you think he sits around reading Reddit for tips and tricks from people who know less about the game than himself? Ladies, this guy is why you don't drink or smoke whilst pregnant.
Yup. Always someone like this in the comments section on every D4 vid. Dude just because people enjoy the game more than you doesn't mean you have to ruin their fun. Go back to Overwatch my guy. No one wants you here 😂
Feel like this is fine tbh, if you put in the work to get the caches why not get rewarded
yeah, securing all those whisper caches is NOT easy work.
@@giano3715 actually its quite easy now, a single dungeon gives you 5 whispers and you can do one in like 3 to 5 minutes.
Cause gettin caches isn't hard work especially when it only takes 2h to have a new lvl 60 char xD 🤦🏻♂️
@@DarthMizaru so about 4.5 hours to get 27 caches, which is longer than you would spend just leveling an alt
@@mattd582 mostly is because its something you do passively while playing on your main character, you get exp and items for an alt for free basically.
I see no issue with this, if this helps people play more, earning something on your high end character, to use on a alt isnt really a issue.
I agree... what makes me stop playing is leveling time, since most ppl got a life outside gaming this is nice.
I actually love you. Just started the alt parade and boosting by doing something you have to do anyway + get starter gear for a new toom is genius❤
Honestly, I think it's ok and they should leave it like that, it's feel more fair than getting PL'd in the pit, at least here you make the effort to recover the caches
Imagine using words like fair and unfair here. It doesnt matter (atleast it shouldnt) to you if someone else gets powerleveld.
@@SuperTimmmi I don't mind people getting PL, but PL has always been a sensitive subject in the world of video games, as it leads to practices that are often unwanted by devs (payd services).
At the moment, if you don't play in a group or if you don't have buddies in the game, you're fucked, but with xp in caches, the balance has been redressed: those who want to up their rerolls with their buddies can do so as before, but the others have an alternative method of doing it themselves.
Perfect for different class alts as you also get class specific aspects and temper recipes.
Everyday I am reminded that I am not intelligent. I can't believe I never thought of that. I saw those XP globes and never thought of just giving the caches to my ults. SMH.
What I do for caches is the 2 abominations in PvP zones, look for Undercity bounty because it can be cleared in like 2 mins, Boss bounties just to I have a reason to do the besides just loot and mats, Legions/World Bosses if they are up, and just speedrun through dungeons since they removed a lot of the mechanics that made dungeons annoying to clear quickly. You can pretty easily get 5+ caches every reset
Nice. Now I can self boost myself to make a 2nd character that is worse in everything than my op SB.
Great video i just don't like the balance haha
Nice, thanks for sharing this, will make it easier to lvl another character in the season. Honestly spiritborn is not really that exciting to play for me. I will obviously make a weaker character, but one I enjoy to play with at least.
Even if you don’t want to farm whisper caches, just saving 1 of them for a new character is a massive boost for very little effort.
Been saving them for when alts hit 60 as they drop glyphs, can boost to 60 in 15 mins with a friend but took me ages on one of my alts for the 3 glyphs I needed to drop
this seems pretty great if you're in Hardcore or don't have any friends to run you. It takes 4 pit 100s about 7-8 minutes to hit 60 in SC.
High IQ strat.
Wudijo, problems I have encountered
seething opals not working after rank 5, only get rep during realmwalker events and seething realm
during hordes, if you pick the elite exploding one, you do not get aether for the other fiends or hellbornem bug or feature ?
Varshan's barrier is still temperamental, mostly I can get through no problem but occasionally he will take a few mins longer because he doesnt let it down even when staggered or knocked down
If you have a friend that can do pit 60+ it takes only 6 pit runs from 1-60.
super dumb question, how do you get into the pit before level 60
@@trev6783 if ur friend can go pits he can open and u can enter
@@trev6783the high lvl gets on normal dif and opens it for you
@@trev6783 I thought the same as it shows locked. But it only locked to you opening it. Your friend can select the leave and open the port and you can enter it. Just stay at entrance until the he clears to the portal and then wait at the entrance of the second area until the guardian portal opens. Stay where you portal in at the boss as you don’t have to be in his room to get the xp. There are invisible mobs so have your carry attack everywhere so ya don’t get killed.
My buddy runs me on 65 takes less than 15 mins.
i mean that fully fine to lvl up alts really. The developer said themselve they wanna make it easier, thats easier
This will be perfect for when my friends aren't online... which is lots haha.
By the end of season 6 we're gonna see people clearing Infernal Hordes on levels 1 only by opening caches
wonder if u can capitalize on the xp with elixirs?..
Elixirs only give more xp from killing monsters
Think they fixed this. I used two and didn’t get any xp. Worked yesterday just fine.
No they didn't, I just did it myself.
Are you sure you used whisper caches? Other types might not work
@@WanderingRogue1forgot I made this comment. You are correct, I had used something other than a whisper cache. This whisper cache xp leveling method does still work.
Between this and the evade build, Wudi is making the hotfix greatest hits
The Ultimate Boost is to Slot in the Mythicals from your Main, which u can do at Level 35 and become instant immortal.
I'm curious how good this will work with seething opals, elixir, and the mothers blessing exp buff.
Does the experience depend on difficulty where caches got farmed ?
And will the difficulty where you open them change things..normal versus expert..
Torment 2 cache got me to level 19 in penitent. So looks like at least the difficulty of cache earned matters
@@garycannon2887 so it seems to make a difference where you farm the cache...or open it ,maybe even both..but I assume farming spot counts
Paragon XP is permanent so you also take a big hit to season progression throwing all the cache XP at levels 1-60 instead, hopefully this stays in as there's a already a big downside.
1-60 is just as "permanent" 🤷♂️
you need so much xp after 220-230 so it doesn't matter. It's not even "small hit"
I will never lvl a second char again normally
very good for hardcore I guess
Nice wudi, tnx man. I hit paragon 250 btw 🙂 one question bro, whats the best para farm on solo? I think pit lvl doesnt matfer like in d3, did u find it odd too?
Should i just spam pits like t4 or go infernal hordes on spam? Or maybe mix of everything like helltides, pita, i hordes, wisp tree bountys?
I'd think stack buffs like opal, elixir and incense always to start with. Then normal nightmare dungeon have this xp fountain thingy that gives you another 15% for an hour. All do get removed from relog though.
About best xp.. Think Raxx said it's Infernal Hordes. And I can see it. With a good clear build you get massive amount of mobs.
@@teapea8184 Yeah I have been doing nightmare dungeons to get xp shrine, then when I have it load up 10 round infernal hordes until xp buff is gone. Seems super quick xp.
I've also encountered a strange bug where a cache can have absolutely nothing in it not sure if its been patched. It's only happened to me once so far
I tryed this with one cahce... not working already. (EDIT: You need to level at least a bit, before try it! I went to level 2 and test again and it worked) (EDIT 2: I think the first cahe i used was a world boss reward one)
If this is expansion specific it isn't for everyone, I haven't seen any of these xo boosts and have done so many whisper caches. But im not on t4 either so I don't know.
I think if you turn in the quest with the XP pool buff you get the xp globes. Have not tried to prove this, but that is my two cents.
Edit: Tested it out and no, it is not how it works. /headscratch
8:50 calculation is incorrect: if you get the caches yourself, you’ll get a tonne of xp from doing the whispers. So probably 1.5 hours or so
U can do them faster on the main
@@paulwilliamson3192 maybe, but you don’t get exp on your alt when doing that’s could be an interesting race, where 1 streamer levels up doing it all on an alt but the other does the caches on their main and opens all of them on the alt
Thats a dumb take, the t4 caches give way more exp than what a regular toon would get by doing them on expert.
Does elixir bonus exp work with exp globes from caches?
Wow must have taken hours to farm all those cash boxes
I’m ok with this 👍
I want to do this but open them all up at the same time lmao
I've opened caches up to T1 and never seen those exp globes before. Do they only appear if you open them as a different character, or only if they were acquired at certain difficulties?
he's using t4 caches, and on a sub 60. so it could be either or?
Did not work for me and I tried different ones multiple times.
Its pretty crazy if you just put these cashes aside you normally dont care about anyways
Without be faster to have a friend carry you through the pits. No farming for caches. way more xp.
How many caches to paragon 300 though?
paragon is shared with toons.
Just grinding whisper cashes via the whisper tree? That´s awesome.
You say that it´s possible to lvl. 1-60 in a few hours? How?!?.
grind the caches... put the caches in the stash... make new char... open stash... take caches... open caches = profit... he just showed it in the video... didn't you watch it?
Why not use the opel to give you 15% more experience?
But how long does i take to farm 30+ whisper caches Thats a few houers. And in that time you can lvl alot anyways by playing the game. But anyways nice to know 😊
What you prob want to do is while you are mix maxing to not open those chest and save them, then when you go to your new character you use them to give you a boost, this way you maximize time invested
I mean it's not like caches are just exp and nothing else. You get get them passively while playing and might aswell open them on a new char. You lose out on paragon exp, but caches do not really contribute alot of exp toward that anyway (the turn in does).
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There are 33 inventory spaces. Looks like you needed 30 caches, fyi.
How do you do this??
I don't really know much about the endgame tbh. How do i get the t4 cache?
you do whispers on t4
How long did it take to farm all those caches?
i mean if your just adding in a couple dungeons here and there. you can probably build em over a reasonable time pretty easily. especially useful if your bad at speed leveling, or have someone to carry you through pit.
i used 24 and i am only at 53, so i am thinking we need more than 27
But what difficulty were the chests farmed at?
I´d guess the highest your main is able to play on effectively.
Only HELLTIDE caches drop XP !!! not normal ones !!! I found out via the hard way !!
hmmmm farm 33 caches or just get run through a couple pits????
gg
should have used potions too
I think this is fair.
Wudo, how do u get so much gold? Wtf....
or you get a friend to boost you through PIT levels, much quicker than this....
no exp potion? shame
Und ich spiele 2 Tage meinen 2. Charakter hoch 😂🎉
This is funny, and cool, Guarantee it will be removed
Hope not
Probably faster to level a character to 60 then to farm this many caches?
27. He opened 30, got exp from 27.
Why does he jump up from 59 to 259?
Paragon levels are shared between all the characters. As soon as he hits level 60 it shows the paragon levels.
The 259 is the paragon level he achieved from his main. So as soon as any alt gets to max level 60, they go to 259 paragon points
Paragon is based on the highest lvl character. His other character(s) has already reached that. So when he hit the normal cap (level 60) it goes to where his paragon is.
Thank you guys
Great, but Blizzard should immediately give you the option to advance to level 60, and preferably paragon 150. This isn't a damn cRPG to bother with leveling. It would be best if respec was free. I want to test my spiritborn builds and have fun, not bother. And all those whiners, be quiet or change the game.
Dude why are you always making such a dumb face in your thumbnail?
It's not 27 caches bro each row is 11 so 33 total minus the 3 left is 30 caches.
Minus 3 which didnt give xp
Someone saw the Reddit post…. Give credit man.
The Reddit post you saw literally said 27 caches. …..
Are you we todd did? You think one of the world's top D4 players couldn't have thought of doing this on his own? He streams 15+ hours a day, you think he sits around reading Reddit for tips and tricks from people who know less about the game than himself?
Ladies, this guy is why you don't drink or smoke whilst pregnant.
nice, Will be fixed😂😂😂
Why? There is no reason to make it hard to level a second character
They must have patched it. Got ZERO XP from the Caches at Level 1.
Nope, still works, just got my barb to 60 this way.. you need to use whisper caches mate^^
first
If you have an alt... you probably play too much.
Yup. Always someone like this in the comments section on every D4 vid. Dude just because people enjoy the game more than you doesn't mean you have to ruin their fun. Go back to Overwatch my guy. No one wants you here 😂
@@WhiteWlf-dy8fb what's an overwatch ?
Hes not wrong tho majorty of players play 1 class and 1 character