while it's a shame there weren't any particularly interesting results, hangin out in the dark post-nova like that so much kinda puts into perspective how terrifying it'd be to exist in a dead universe. once there's nothing left, you're not anywhere; there's no more point of reference to tell you where you are. you and your ship are all that's left, and the *only* place in existence is where you are right now
@@GooeyMr1 i mean i figure that's what makes it so scary! outer wilds is obviously very science FICTION but most of its premises are based in science FACT, so some day, somewhere, someone will sit in the dark, though who knows if they'll be alone, as the last star goes out and the universe finally goes dark. to quote solanum; "This universe will keep getting colder and larger, until one day, the stars and the life they support will all die. That’s scary to think about, even though Conoy tells me it won’t happen in our lifetimes. But it’ll happen in someone else’s, someday!"
@@GooeyMr1 not to be a proselyte, but thats kinda the promise of damnation. well, that, and the Excrucians, if they find you. the lucky ones drift in the eternal dark, screaming forever. theoretically, judgement day is supposed to be a final, final end. total destruction, so even the drifting darkness isn't forever. you wont be able to tell the difference though.
That's why I will never understand people that want to be immortal just to see the universe die. They never think about still being conscious in the infinite nothing afterwards.
I did something kinda similar. Deactivated the project and flew out in my ship, watched the explosion and saw the really really cool looking planets on the map, still bathed in blue trails. Traveling back in my ship, I hoped that maybe I could examine these post-supernova planets. But no, as I got closer, I heard the bubbling roiling supernova noise, then flew into the (now invisible) kill box. Understandable, but just a little sad.
@@iCore7Gaming Space is a near-vacuum normally, but this solar system is full of superheated matter ejected by a supernova. It’s still there, just too dispersed to see and no longer glowing.
I think it's the scariest ending in the game like what happens to you after the fabrics of space time just shatters? It destroys all universe ? Idk maybe it's just me
Imagine if instead of you, it was Hornfels or Hal who got pinged by the statue, and the first thing they saw every loop was you taking off in the only ship on the planet. Infinite loops, with no way to stop it.
There's a mod that lets you survive the supernova, and I was messing around with brittle hollow, and it turns out if you wait long enough the entire planet will end up falling into the black hole. Although some of the pieces have such a long health bar it takes like 4 or 5 hours for them to get taken down
You can actually make them fall quicker by crashing something into those pieces. You could try and crash into the meteor thingies from the volcanic moon to redirect them where u want, or u could just straight up crash ur ship into the planet
Actually Isolation ending WITH the time loop is even more scarier. In Outer Wilds, you always die "quickly" (supernova, miscalculated jump, suffocation,....). But the ATP doesn't bring YOU back but only your memories 22 minutes. Meaning that when you go away from the solar system the game tells you "hey wait you're in a time loop come back here!" and you get back to the camp fire with the 22 minutes memories, but your previous self is still living through the end of the universe with only the ship's resources (I didn't find anything lore-wise that ATP kills the protagonist past the 22 minutes).
Well... technically there is no such thing. The Nomai aren't creating alternative universes, it's not time travel, it's more like a simulation. We as the players are of course aware of the time loop and each iteration - but in-universe, only the last "loop" where you deactivate the ATP and collapse the Eye (or, you know, die trying), is the one that happens. The player character simply wakes up with all of the previous loops' memories. We the players get to play and experience each loop, but the Youngling doesn't, not really. He only remembers the previous loops, but he didn't live them. So the loops don't really exist like real realities, they're more like a... 22 minute dream. Well, a lot of 22 minute dreams - and you remember them all, at once, when you wake up. So yeah, no lonely death in space for time loop Youngling. :) Only for the took-out-the-advanced-warp-core Youngling :(
@@HoriaM29 you're right, but so are they, depending on how you think about it. going back in time could cause a branching timeline, or there's only one timeline. all changes on your beliefs of a multiverse; i believe in a multiverse which makes the game scarier when you think that the hatchling still exists after a loop. they remember dying over and over, so for the hell of it they fly out of the solar system and... nothing. they see the supernova, effectively watching everyone they care about die, waiting for the ATP to send them back, and it doesn't happen. if they can get far enough away, they'll either starve or run out of air. think one of the dlc endings, but for every loop, and all that's different is that a new timeline is created from the memories of all before them. yet, they don't know about after the loop, doomed to repeat it, like all of their predecessors.
@@mr.phantom674 But that's the issue, it's not time travel - it's a time loop. There are no multiverses created as there is no altering of the past or future. The loop is a self-contained system that doesn't affect anything outside it. Each loop is a *virtual* 22-minute snapshot of the universe. It begins 22 minutes before the supernova and ends when the ATP finishes sending the information. Nothing exists before or after it as that would contradict the whole purpose of the loop. It's as if you were saving before a hard boss and then loading back each time you die until you defeat him. You are aware of each loop yes, but in-game there is only one "real loop" - the one in which you succeed in killing the boss. All the other saves don't exist anymore, they cease to exist the moment you load back. It's the same for the universe in Outer Wilds.
One of the biggest misreads of the lore in this game that I see is either people thinking that the time loops are cumulative (22 minutes times every time the probe is launched) or that time is being rewritten. Time itself is not being affected, and the rest of the universe is not being reset nor is the solar system out of step with the rest of the universe. Only the Hatchling's *memories* are affected. Another commentor put it best - each loop is effectively a simulation, what COULD be, and the only REAL passage of time is where you remove the warp core, disabling Ash Twin.
@@mr.phantom674Obviously those discussions are inherently flawed and imaginary, but I don’t think the lore involves parallel universe. Think about how warping works. If the object were sent to another identical universe, it would disappear from the current reality. However, we see that is not the case. (Still, there is the issue about determinism and free will. The game explained it away with “destroy the fabric of spacetime”, which doesn’t make much sense because not sending back the same memory is ostensibly okay.)
Even though I enjoyed the shit out of this game I find empty space terrifying and was feeling uneasy 13 minutes in when there's nothing but you and the shuttle. My stomach fucking dropped when you jumped out of the shuttle
Since it looks like you have Echoes of the Eye... if you're looking to experiment further, I suggest trying a different method of propelling yourself beyond the supernova available with that DLC. There are two distinct situations you might find yourself in during that time; I think each gives a unique ending text. (Being deliberately vague to avoid spoiling anybody roaming the comments section.)
me the first time I found the warp core and pulled it out without realizing what I had just done, now sitting in giants deep talking to gabbro and trying to show them my fancy pants new warp core when they say, hey maybe you should turn it off haha, and I realize, oh I did hm
This game kinda stands out, even among other genres. It has so many endings (some looping back), you can finish (or not...) the game just before the bang or in like 15min, and a simple but explorable Lore.
Yesterday when I entered the hourglass twin nomai shuttle I accidently hit Ash twin on my way and then violently went around the entire solar system and then went outside the solar system while circling the solar system and having infinite oxygen (because the game thought I was still in the nomai ship while I was actually outside the ship) and waited to die for the next loop to begin. It took so long and eventually I was over 250.000 km away from the sun. Then I died because sun go brrrrrrr
The only part that doesn’t make sense is that you can warp back at all. If the warp receiver has been burned up by a supernova how did you warp there? Literally unplayable…
I think a real supernova would literally vaporize any planets in orbit, although given the physics of this world is different in other ways they could be justified in making the scale different so they're burned, flaming husks instead. It's cool that they did the design for some stellar remnant where the sun was at least.
Is it possible to fly back on your regular ship after the supernova has finished, but before the game ends? is it possible to see how the planets look like after the supernova?
Im surprised it doesnt work like Ember Twin's, where you cant recall the ship once the sand covers the cannon. If sand is enough to deactivate it, I would have thought a supernova would be..!
Ooh, nice to see another channel experimenting with stuff in Outer Wilds! Seems you cut things rather close there. Such a mundane result this time though XD
I did it once, I was just messing around traveling super far away, then I decided I would come back, and giants deep was right in front of me. I hit that thing at ludicrous speeds. Got in as well
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while it's a shame there weren't any particularly interesting results, hangin out in the dark post-nova like that so much kinda puts into perspective how terrifying it'd be to exist in a dead universe. once there's nothing left, you're not anywhere; there's no more point of reference to tell you where you are. you and your ship are all that's left, and the *only* place in existence is where you are right now
I think about this concept a lot, that’s why I love Outer Wilds for actually exploring it
makes you wonder if real death is something like that
@@GooeyMr1 i mean i figure that's what makes it so scary! outer wilds is obviously very science FICTION but most of its premises are based in science FACT, so some day, somewhere, someone will sit in the dark, though who knows if they'll be alone, as the last star goes out and the universe finally goes dark. to quote solanum; "This universe will keep getting colder and larger, until one day, the stars and the life they support will all die. That’s scary to think about, even though Conoy tells me it won’t happen in our lifetimes. But it’ll happen in someone else’s, someday!"
@@GooeyMr1 not to be a proselyte, but thats kinda the promise of damnation.
well, that, and the Excrucians, if they find you. the lucky ones drift in the eternal dark, screaming forever.
theoretically, judgement day is supposed to be a final, final end. total destruction, so even the drifting darkness isn't forever. you wont be able to tell the difference though.
That's why I will never understand people that want to be immortal just to see the universe die. They never think about still being conscious in the infinite nothing afterwards.
I did something kinda similar. Deactivated the project and flew out in my ship, watched the explosion and saw the really really cool looking planets on the map, still bathed in blue trails. Traveling back in my ship, I hoped that maybe I could examine these post-supernova planets. But no, as I got closer, I heard the bubbling roiling supernova noise, then flew into the (now invisible) kill box. Understandable, but just a little sad.
To be fair, that’s the remaining heat of a dying star. It’d be a while before it all dissipated enough to be there safely.
@@Veelofar you do understand space is a vacuum? The only energy would be light and that would travel out and dissipate
@@iCore7Gaming yes, stars famously have no heat in space. That’s why the Sun transfers no heat to Earth.
@@iCore7Gaming Space is a near-vacuum normally, but this solar system is full of superheated matter ejected by a supernova. It’s still there, just too dispersed to see and no longer glowing.
I don't think there'd be any planets left to explore after a super nova
My personal favorite ending is breaking reality. Nothing like cracking the fabric of spacetime before breakfast.
Before, during, after?, you’ll never know
my first ending, without knowing wtf was going on, playing around in High Energy lab with the scout. BOOM broke space time XD
The kazoo in the credits is just the cherry on top.
I think it's the scariest ending in the game like what happens to you after the fabrics of space time just shatters? It destroys all universe ? Idk maybe it's just me
I actually broke spacetime while exploring dark bramble. The supernova hit while I was transitioning into the next zone. Spacetime broken.
You know, I just noticed that the nomai distress beacon is fading in and out in the final nova music.
Imagine if instead of you, it was Hornfels or Hal who got pinged by the statue, and the first thing they saw every loop was you taking off in the only ship on the planet. Infinite loops, with no way to stop it.
Hornfels could stop it by not telling you the launch codes
Or since they are awake before you they just take the ship for themselves
There's a mod that lets you survive the supernova, and I was messing around with brittle hollow, and it turns out if you wait long enough the entire planet will end up falling into the black hole. Although some of the pieces have such a long health bar it takes like 4 or 5 hours for them to get taken down
You can actually make them fall quicker by crashing something into those pieces. You could try and crash into the meteor thingies from the volcanic moon to redirect them where u want, or u could just straight up crash ur ship into the planet
« Final voyage » is such an epic track, perfectly recreates the feeling of being so near the end of a huge puzzle you slowly completed piece by piece
Actually Isolation ending WITH the time loop is even more scarier.
In Outer Wilds, you always die "quickly" (supernova, miscalculated jump, suffocation,....). But the ATP doesn't bring YOU back but only your memories 22 minutes. Meaning that when you go away from the solar system the game tells you "hey wait you're in a time loop come back here!" and you get back to the camp fire with the 22 minutes memories, but your previous self is still living through the end of the universe with only the ship's resources (I didn't find anything lore-wise that ATP kills the protagonist past the 22 minutes).
Well... technically there is no such thing. The Nomai aren't creating alternative universes, it's not time travel, it's more like a simulation.
We as the players are of course aware of the time loop and each iteration - but in-universe, only the last "loop" where you deactivate the ATP and collapse the Eye (or, you know, die trying), is the one that happens.
The player character simply wakes up with all of the previous loops' memories. We the players get to play and experience each loop, but the Youngling doesn't, not really. He only remembers the previous loops, but he didn't live them. So the loops don't really exist like real realities, they're more like a... 22 minute dream. Well, a lot of 22 minute dreams - and you remember them all, at once, when you wake up.
So yeah, no lonely death in space for time loop Youngling. :) Only for the took-out-the-advanced-warp-core Youngling :(
@@HoriaM29 you're right, but so are they, depending on how you think about it. going back in time could cause a branching timeline, or there's only one timeline. all changes on your beliefs of a multiverse; i believe in a multiverse which makes the game scarier when you think that the hatchling still exists after a loop. they remember dying over and over, so for the hell of it they fly out of the solar system and... nothing. they see the supernova, effectively watching everyone they care about die, waiting for the ATP to send them back, and it doesn't happen. if they can get far enough away, they'll either starve or run out of air. think one of the dlc endings, but for every loop, and all that's different is that a new timeline is created from the memories of all before them. yet, they don't know about after the loop, doomed to repeat it, like all of their predecessors.
@@mr.phantom674 But that's the issue, it's not time travel - it's a time loop. There are no multiverses created as there is no altering of the past or future. The loop is a self-contained system that doesn't affect anything outside it.
Each loop is a *virtual* 22-minute snapshot of the universe. It begins 22 minutes before the supernova and ends when the ATP finishes sending the information. Nothing exists before or after it as that would contradict the whole purpose of the loop.
It's as if you were saving before a hard boss and then loading back each time you die until you defeat him. You are aware of each loop yes, but in-game there is only one "real loop" - the one in which you succeed in killing the boss. All the other saves don't exist anymore, they cease to exist the moment you load back. It's the same for the universe in Outer Wilds.
One of the biggest misreads of the lore in this game that I see is either people thinking that the time loops are cumulative (22 minutes times every time the probe is launched) or that time is being rewritten. Time itself is not being affected, and the rest of the universe is not being reset nor is the solar system out of step with the rest of the universe. Only the Hatchling's *memories* are affected. Another commentor put it best - each loop is effectively a simulation, what COULD be, and the only REAL passage of time is where you remove the warp core, disabling Ash Twin.
@@mr.phantom674Obviously those discussions are inherently flawed and imaginary, but I don’t think the lore involves parallel universe. Think about how warping works. If the object were sent to another identical universe, it would disappear from the current reality. However, we see that is not the case. (Still, there is the issue about determinism and free will. The game explained it away with “destroy the fabric of spacetime”, which doesn’t make much sense because not sending back the same memory is ostensibly okay.)
Even though I enjoyed the shit out of this game I find empty space terrifying and was feeling uneasy 13 minutes in when there's nothing but you and the shuttle. My stomach fucking dropped when you jumped out of the shuttle
AWW HELL NAW I JUST WATCHED THE LAST MINUTE
Since it looks like you have Echoes of the Eye... if you're looking to experiment further, I suggest trying a different method of propelling yourself beyond the supernova available with that DLC. There are two distinct situations you might find yourself in during that time; I think each gives a unique ending text. (Being deliberately vague to avoid spoiling anybody roaming the comments section.)
I've seen those endings before, they're good at giving you an existential crisis
Grabbing Warp Core and not trying to make it to the Vessel makes me anxious.
me the first time I found the warp core and pulled it out without realizing what I had just done, now sitting in giants deep talking to gabbro and trying to show them my fancy pants new warp core when they say, hey maybe you should turn it off haha, and I realize, oh I did hm
Grabbing Warp Core and trying to make it to the Vessel makes me anxious
Grabbing Warp Core makes me anxious
This last scene with Slate made me laugh a lot
This game kinda stands out, even among other genres. It has so many endings (some looping back), you can finish (or not...) the game just before the bang or in like 15min, and a simple but explorable Lore.
Yesterday when I entered the hourglass twin nomai shuttle I accidently hit Ash twin on my way and then violently went around the entire solar system and then went outside the solar system while circling the solar system and having infinite oxygen (because the game thought I was still in the nomai ship while I was actually outside the ship) and waited to die for the next loop to begin. It took so long and eventually I was over 250.000 km away from the sun. Then I died because sun go brrrrrrr
I’ve seen videos of this, it’s so funny and the ui goes absolutely nuts. I’m gonna try an replicate it one day
You didn't died because of the sun at that distance, you were just brought back in time by Ash Twin Project
@@BakaLorehat I know, I just said "sun go brrrrrrr" for comedic purposes
It does suck that you can’t explore after the supernova but it does make sense that you die if you go back because it’s going to be really hot.
The only part that doesn’t make sense is that you can warp back at all. If the warp receiver has been burned up by a supernova how did you warp there? Literally unplayable…
I think a real supernova would literally vaporize any planets in orbit, although given the physics of this world is different in other ways they could be justified in making the scale different so they're burned, flaming husks instead.
It's cool that they did the design for some stellar remnant where the sun was at least.
you didn't have to give chert the existential crisis
17:49 What ship ? the friend ship you made with the warp core
This made me smile
How about what if you recall the shuttle while the supernova is entirely done?
I’ll try this, I think I recalled it too early
@@kay_jello I am quite curious myself
That was the smallest supernova I have ever seen lol
Love your videos!! Pls keep it going 😉
Is it possible to fly back on your regular ship after the supernova has finished, but before the game ends? is it possible to see how the planets look like after the supernova?
No, unfortunately even after the supernova effects are gone, if you return you just get burnt away like normal
@@LocalBread Maybe using cheats u can turn that off
@@legendbender yeah, there are mods you can get to survive it
Im surprised it doesnt work like Ember Twin's, where you cant recall the ship once the sand covers the cannon. If sand is enough to deactivate it, I would have thought a supernova would be..!
Ooh, nice to see another channel experimenting with stuff in Outer Wilds! Seems you cut things rather close there. Such a mundane result this time though XD
if you do crash into giant's deep, can you break through the current?
I’ve tried it so many times and failed so I don’t think so
I've read claims that you need 10+ km/s
and bigger distance than makes sun invisible
@@kay_jelloYou can but it take hella speed and you’ll die soon after but you do get a achievement
I did it once, I was just messing around traveling super far away, then I decided I would come back, and giants deep was right in front of me. I hit that thing at ludicrous speeds. Got in as well
This is how I got the Deep Impact achievement, in the Brittle Hollow shuttle, entirely by accident, wish I was recording.
my biggest desire. see the steller remnet up close
More stuff like this, much love ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks! I’ll definitely do more outer wilds videos
It detects if the ship survived I guess
Why if you fly back after the super nova with just your space suits
you cant, it will trigger the end screen before you get there
Not cool, Slate :/
Very nice and interesting video, thanks for your work ❤️
Has anyone taken out the warp core and gotten out of the solar system with a nomai shuttle? That’d be interesting
bro did u actually watch the video or?
@@fomalhaut_the_great didn’t show that I’m pretty sure
@@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529 3:46 + you should know that if you can stay after the supernova that means that it's not in a loop anymore soooo
@@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529 they literally did it twice? Bruh did you just black out watching this video?
Dude, who still uses the landing camera???
It's very cinematic
What ship:/
is this title a lie? i watch 18mins of nothing to get to a test that wasnt advertised
It's no lie, here you go: 9:32
@@kay_jello oh i see, sorry. i got bored of waiting and skipped thru, missed the 2 seconds of the test lol