Excellent presentation, Dr. John. You might also point out that the feel of the "style" is further enhanced when the performer understands the melody that the drum part is accompanying. That melody was originally named Ah, Ca Ira and was used during the French Revolution, hence the name "Downfall of Paris". Love the sound of your drum!
great solo, gave me chills once you finished. You make all of the deceased, rudiment drummers/soldiers that marched during war proud. This inspired me to get better on drum set too
Excellent. Thanks so much . I have had a career as a rock musician but always been inspired by the jazz greats . The connection between the ancient rudiments is so interesting. I do a rudimental ritual daily , but also working on Wilcoxins ‘ swing book . You have inspired me to learn these beautiful etudes . Thanks so much .
Finally someone on UA-cam that knows how to play this solo. I played it in 8th grade and sounded just like this. The accents and contrast are important; otherwise it is just a mess.
I understand that Dr. Wooten is probably the most correct anyone could be about the snare drum... but I cannot play along with him while he is doing this because I want my 7 stroke rolls to line up as perfect triplets and he really wants to drag them just a hair behind the beat it seems. I'm sure I just don't understand the ancient style well enough, but between that and those stupid 8-over-7 15 strokes this is harder than I anticipated.
Romans used to charge by the numeral when carving into tablets, so they did IIII instead of IV to make more money. It happened enough that now both IV and IIII are acceptable, but it is most common in watches and clocks
Thank you for playing the right accents in a strain!!! ps. for fun, when you get to the paradiddles (i think thats c strain,) drop down and crescendo that phrase and repeat it again! sounds good man!
Amazing drum. It sound really great... I've just got mine, I recorded the Test Claire (adapted for rudimental drumming). I did it with the drum as it came out of the box... I hope I can make it sound better... can you give me any advise on tunning? or abour the snares? the muffler?... thx! I'll
Peter Mosley Love Jack. Played this solo and several others with Jack and we did play them much slower than the way I played it in the video. We also chopped out on Three Camps playing it three times at three drastically different tempi.
Fife melodies are accompaniments to these styles of drum beats if you want to get technical about it. The purpose of this style of drumming historically was to march troops, and the sound of the drums are naturally louder and carry longer distances than the fifes.This makes the fifes an ornamentation (a welcome ornamentation!) to the louder drums in the original context of marching troops. The drums after all were used to signal troops long before the fife was invented, and could do so effectively over much longer distances than the fife, making the drums the more essential instument for this purpose. I love the fife in this style of music so please don't get me wrong or take this as an attack. It's just that saying that the purpose of the drums in this style of music was to accompany, or in other words, "back up" fife melodies ignores the historical reality from which this music came and, with respect, the more prominent role that the drum played as a military signaling device relative to the fife.
That is a Cooperman 17" Rope tension drum. Sounds great, doesn't it!?
Crisp and clean
Sounds fantastic. Was in a military band a number of years ago and always enjoyed getting to break out the Coopermans for ceremonies.
Excellent presentation, Dr. John. You might also point out that the feel of the "style" is further enhanced when the performer understands the melody that the drum part is accompanying. That melody was originally named Ah, Ca Ira and was used during the French Revolution, hence the name "Downfall of Paris".
Love the sound of your drum!
Thanks for covering my back. I felt pretty relaxed, I look pretty relaxed, I sound pretty relaxed, therefore...
cheers!
This should be required viewing for all students wanting to know more about
the heritage and interp of the traditional style of drumming.
I just love this rope-tensioned drum!
great solo, gave me chills once you finished. You make all of the deceased, rudiment drummers/soldiers that marched during war proud. This inspired me to get better on drum set too
Excellent. Thanks so much . I have had a career as a rock musician but always been inspired by the jazz greats . The connection between the ancient rudiments is so interesting. I do a rudimental ritual daily , but also working on Wilcoxins ‘ swing book .
You have inspired me to learn these beautiful etudes . Thanks so much .
A true master... You alone made me fall in love with rudimental drumming.
i learned alot from Dr. Wooten back in the day, glad to see youre still here to help guide my son now! God bless
Finally someone on UA-cam that knows how to play this solo. I played it in 8th grade and sounded just like this. The accents and contrast are important; otherwise it is just a mess.
Love the sound of that drum and flawless execution on the solo.
You can't beat a rope tension drum played with ancient rudiments. There is a reason that after 200 years drummers still pass this along like DNA.
I love that drum sound wow!
This is awesome! Love the delay on the rolls, but you can still feel the regular beat. Really superb!
Very nicely and cleanly performed!! Awesome stuff!!!! Also the tips he gives on how to perform the solo are invaluable. Thanks a lot!
I love this solo so much! It's so fun to play.
His hands are so great for rudimental drumming
That was amazing. Thanks!
We are learning this in my band class!
I understand that Dr. Wooten is probably the most correct anyone could be about the snare drum... but I cannot play along with him while he is doing this because I want my 7 stroke rolls to line up as perfect triplets and he really wants to drag them just a hair behind the beat it seems. I'm sure I just don't understand the ancient style well enough, but between that and those stupid 8-over-7 15 strokes this is harder than I anticipated.
why is the 4 on the clock IIII not IV?
swankestdraf asking the important questions
Sometimes IIII is used but more commonly it’s IV
Ryandal Gilmore good to know
Romans used to charge by the numeral when carving into tablets, so they did IIII instead of IV to make more money. It happened enough that now both IV and IIII are acceptable, but it is most common in watches and clocks
English not Roman.
damn.. those double strokes sound like machine gun fire...great playing..
Great explanation; excellent performance.
Love this guy.
He's not tense. He's "intense".
That snare sounds tasty!
Sounds amazing
Love it!!
I could listen to John talk about anything.
6:34
This is VERY inspiring.
I wish you could do a much more in depth video on how to play the entire solo. Still very interesting!
Slurring the 7 strokes a la 88/89 Phantom Regiment drum break.
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love the elasticity of the time
That dam drill sounds good 👌🏾
so, question. What kind of drum is he using?
Great!!!!
You are insane Mister!
Thank you for playing the right accents in a strain!!! ps. for fun, when you get to the paradiddles (i think thats c strain,) drop down and crescendo that phrase and repeat it again! sounds good man!
Amazing drum. It sound really great... I've just got mine, I recorded the Test Claire (adapted for rudimental drumming). I did it with the drum as it came out of the box... I hope I can make it sound better... can you give me any advise on tunning? or abour the snares? the muffler?... thx! I'll
What does a 15 stroke roll sound like.....
What is the last solo you mentioned at the beginning of the video after Crazy Army (at 0:31)? I'm not native English and I can't find it :-D .
Hi. The name is 'Roast Beef' for the solo you are talking about. Unfortunately I couldn't find anything on it myself.
Ahhh..love to hear those machine guns~
in general? A field snare. Specifics I do not have.
downfall of paris was called the epitome of the drummers art according to frederick fennel
Nice ... but Jack would have you play it WAYYYY SLOWER!!! I played it with him a bunch of years ago ... amazing experience.
Peter Mosley Love Jack. Played this solo and several others with Jack and we did play them much slower than the way I played it in the video. We also chopped out on Three Camps playing it three times at three drastically different tempi.
"It's somewhere between a diddle..."
So the 15 stroke roll begins on the upbeat....
Yes
So, the old snare solos have hooks. They're melodic.
Maybe, play with a met
You can't play this with a met. With the lilt of the rolls this will not line up with a met. They didn't have mets on the battlefield. :-)
I can not get rid of a feeling he slows down all the time...
...things people say when they can't play....
he reminds me of Stewart Copeland
Kinda like a maracatu feel
Mickey Hart played this on his father's coffin.
Are you watching the same video as the rest of us?
These are not drum solos. They're accompaniments to fife melodies.
Fife melodies are accompaniments to these styles of drum beats if you want to get technical about it. The purpose of this style of drumming historically was to march troops, and the sound of the drums are naturally louder and carry longer distances than the fifes.This makes the fifes an ornamentation (a welcome ornamentation!) to the louder drums in the original context of marching troops. The drums after all were used to signal troops long before the fife was invented, and could do so effectively over much longer distances than the fife, making the drums the more essential instument for this purpose.
I love the fife in this style of music so please don't get me wrong or take this as an attack. It's just that saying that the purpose of the drums in this style of music was to accompany, or in other words, "back up" fife melodies ignores the historical reality from which this music came and, with respect, the more prominent role that the drum played as a military signaling device relative to the fife.
Don't correct someone that's better than you. Period.
Agreed - there's a fife melody for this tune. Not convinced your interpretation is correct.
Brian Mccue interpretation is pretty accurate. He's a beast..only thing he's missing is crescendos.
try not to force the lesson25s. and don't put too much space between the rolls. you don't want to get off tempo.
Colonial period songs like this one weren't made to be played this fast. Takes away from the historical correctness.
Why am I even watching this? I'm in pit.
So you can get out
So stiff and tense, this is not the way to be teaching people to play.
No, he is making it that way with the up strokes because of the colonial style