Rudimental Ram: "Phantom Ram 87/88" by John Wooton

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • In this video lesson feature, Vic Firth artists & educators teach you a difficult "lick" that will incorporate a wide range of techniques, rudiments, hybrids and stick tricks! Each rudimental ram is broken down by the author, with the music printed on the screen so that you can stop & start the video and watch it played at a slow tempo.
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    About John Wooton:
    VIC FIRTH ARTIST
    JOHN WOOTON
    Dr. John Wooton is the director of percussion studies at The University of Southern Mississippi. He is well versed in many percussion instruments but has specialized in rudimental snare drum, drum set, marimba, vibraphone and steel pans. Dr. Wooton directs the Percussion Ensemble, Steel Pan Orchestra, Graduate Percussion Ensemble and the Samba Band. He also performs regularly on steel pans as a soloist or with his band, KAISO!, and plays vibes for the USM Jazz Quintet.
    From 1988 to 1992, he served as percussion coordinator/pep band director for the University of Iowa bands. As an instructor and performer, Dr. Wooton has been associated with five P.A.S.I.C. Marching Percussion Forum champions. He marched snare drum for four years with the Phantom Regiment Drum and Bugle Corps of Rockford, Ill. (1981-84). During those years, Dr. Wooton held the Drum Corps Midwest Individual Snare Drum title and the Percussive Arts Society Snare Drum Individual title. From 1987 to 1989, he served as the percussion caption head for the Phantom Regiment Drum and Bugle Corps. For the 1990-91 drum corps seasons, he served as program coordinator/percussion arranger for "Nite Express" Drum and Bugle Corps of Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
    Since joining the faculty at Southern Miss, Dr. Wooton, along with establishing a strong percussion studio, has introduced the USM Steel Band, Pop Percussion Ensemble, Samba Band and Salsa Band. He has served as the president of the Percussion Arts Society, Mississippi Chapter, and is presently a member of the Percussive Arts Society Marching Committee. Dr. Wooton gives clinics around the world representing Pearl Drums, SABIAN Cymbals, Vic Firth Sticks., Remo Drum Heads and Row Loff Productions Publications.
    Dr. Wooton is the author of "The Drummer's Rudimental Reference Book" - "Perhaps the most definitive rudimental technique book of our time" - Thomas L. Davis. Wooton's latest publication, "Dr. Throwdown's Rudimental Remedies" (The rudimental method for what ails you!) includes 25 lessons, organized on a specific technique and/or rudiment. Accompanying play-along tracks for every exercise and each track is set in seven different tempos starting with "Tempo del Learno" all the way to "Ludicrous Speed."
    You can find out more information on Dr. Wooton's books and performance schedule at his Web site:
    www.johnwooton.com

КОМЕНТАРІ • 115

  • @PiEndsWith0
    @PiEndsWith0 10 років тому +139

    This would make a perfect out of context quote:
    "Don't slam the accent or you'll distort the diddle"
    -John Wooton

    • @ben-tol
      @ben-tol 4 роки тому

      push not slam

  • @Monocle92
    @Monocle92 8 років тому +135

    "I missed the rimshot"

    • @Orin4E
      @Orin4E 2 роки тому +1

      Cracked me up 🤣

  • @davidavery7718
    @davidavery7718 10 років тому +81

    I love how he talks. "lilt....which is stylistically, er correct...er whatever.... IT'S COOL!"

    • @JBmusicart
      @JBmusicart 4 роки тому

      I've met him, he's awesome. Very good teacher.

  • @pivotmongral
    @pivotmongral 10 років тому +24

    This is so old school oh my God this guy rocks

  • @willheeres5618
    @willheeres5618 7 років тому +41

    "I missed the rimshot." I died when he said that

  • @Drumsanity275
    @Drumsanity275 10 років тому +11

    Dr. Wooton, you sir are definitely the throwdown king man. Enough said!

  • @SaintMont
    @SaintMont 10 років тому +9

    And you mister John Wooton are the most insane teacher of techniques, rudiments, hybrids and stick tricks!!!
    I have one of your flam teaching books.
    Thanks for everything, I like so much this "lesson"!!!

  • @CVsnaredevil
    @CVsnaredevil 8 років тому +5

    That snare sounds AMAZING!!

  • @jamesallenbaker1
    @jamesallenbaker1 10 років тому +5

    Vic Firth: Absolutely Marvelous Ram Tutorial

  • @1988Wildchild1988
    @1988Wildchild1988 4 роки тому +1

    I was born in 1988, something telling me I definitely should learn this lick.
    Thanks for this exercise seems like a good fun to me.
    Thanks

  • @randallinfuso8120
    @randallinfuso8120 10 років тому +2

    Great challenge! I've started learning it... keep them coming, please!

  • @kunns123
    @kunns123 5 років тому +9

    "its basically an 8 stroke roll, but there is no such rudiment. THERE IS NOW :D"
    Hahahaa XD

  • @OndrausCissell
    @OndrausCissell 10 років тому +3

    Classy room Dr. Wooton!

  • @scottmoyer1357
    @scottmoyer1357 Рік тому

    Wow!! Lots of cool licks in this one. You are definitely one creatively skilled player. Hats off. Enjoying the show. Discipline. Respect!!

  • @randallinfuso5002
    @randallinfuso5002 3 роки тому +1

    Even when he plays it slow it sounds amazing!

  • @primalconcretesledge3137
    @primalconcretesledge3137 6 років тому +3

    The first five counts of this is in Mitch Markovich's "Tornado." Took me this whole video to figure out where the hell I had heard that before.

  • @davidparker6566
    @davidparker6566 10 років тому +34

    Harder stuff than what Phantom plays now...

    • @fretbro5150
      @fretbro5150 3 роки тому +1

      Man I love your comment! The Phantom Regiment’s crazy-backwards-impossible way of playing easy, simple sounding, less is more type snare passages is what made it so damn special. RIP Mr. Hurley

  • @crisco6583
    @crisco6583 4 роки тому

    "Buzz-ga-duzz-ga-dat!" I love it.

  • @1988Wildchild1988
    @1988Wildchild1988 4 роки тому

    88 is the year I was born in . Something is telling me I should learn this just because hahah. Thanks great exercise.
    Greetings from Czech Republic 🇨🇿

  • @jeraldcuccurullo2497
    @jeraldcuccurullo2497 3 роки тому +1

    This is an excellent video lesson!! Great job Mate!! Yes I frigging Subscribed as all should do.....

  • @JBmusicart
    @JBmusicart 4 роки тому

    My highschool band director, Gerald Waguespack, of Acadiana Highschool and ULL, studied with Wooten while working on his Doctorate in Music.

  • @mainedutchensen
    @mainedutchensen 10 років тому +48

    87/88? What the actual hell?

    • @ACDCBoy62
      @ACDCBoy62 10 років тому +13

      He says right at the beginning of the video that the material is from solos he wrote in 1987 and 1988. Are you surprised that he is more than 27 years old?

    • @AnthonyBolognese
      @AnthonyBolognese 10 років тому +42

      Elias Simon If his first thought was the same as mine, (before the video started) I thought 87/88 was the time signature.

    • @ACDCBoy62
      @ACDCBoy62 10 років тому +5

      Yeah, that's the reason I clicked on the video in the first place too. Why would he ask the question after it's been answered, though?

    • @AnthonyBolognese
      @AnthonyBolognese 10 років тому +1

      May have commented before the video started, idk.

    • @juliangonzalez2659
      @juliangonzalez2659 6 років тому +1

      dalton puffer 88/89

  • @alesanchez8492
    @alesanchez8492 9 років тому

    Love rudimental Rams

  • @davidcipolla4036
    @davidcipolla4036 10 років тому

    Awesome!!! Keep posting the rudimental vids they're the best!

  • @jeraldcuccurullo2497
    @jeraldcuccurullo2497 3 роки тому

    There's an 8 stroke Roll John!!! RR, LL,RR, L, R.ladt 2 beats are accented as is in all even stroke rolls.Using doubles here and ir Diddles, and as in all even stroke rolls ,the last 2 beats (7,8) are accented!!! Just taught you something, lol xx

  • @anjirocool
    @anjirocool 10 років тому

    learned this yesterday, it's fun to play and sounds cool

  • @BrendanMX
    @BrendanMX 8 років тому +5

    those are the sexiest rim shots I have ever heard

  • @ericsdrumlab4750
    @ericsdrumlab4750 5 років тому +1

    I love this! Going to work on it and commit it to memory. I believe the notation of the first beat of the second half of the lick has an erroneous flam though, at 5:03. The Doc calls for a light tap before those fives, not a flam. Sorry to be "that guy".

    • @beaumartin366
      @beaumartin366 2 роки тому

      You are very correct- and now i need to erase that flam from my muscle memory 😂

  • @smdftb8495
    @smdftb8495 2 роки тому

    I believe the 96 or 97 PR drumline used the first lick in their street beat. I think they swung the 16th notes. Great stuff!

  • @shermanhatch2716
    @shermanhatch2716 2 роки тому

    The second lick reminds me of Scottish drumming!

  • @tharris1291
    @tharris1291 4 роки тому

    Sensational!

  • @MrDavebelow
    @MrDavebelow 4 роки тому

    Lick #1 is from/in 1987 PR snare feature. cued here: ua-cam.com/video/5MzF4lwthfU/v-deo.html
    Lick #2 is from/in the 1988 snare feature, cued here: ua-cam.com/video/IEhdeADImpM/v-deo.html

  • @r3dfiv3
    @r3dfiv3 10 років тому

    You're the doc, doc!

  • @Inspadave
    @Inspadave 7 років тому +1

    It would be nice to learn some licks from the 89 solo.

  • @mlh333
    @mlh333 10 років тому +2

    The sound of the drum is awesome. I imagine Dr. Wooton is blasting me with a powerful machine gun: rat a tat tat tat! Obliterating us with his powerful machine gun rudiments! But this is awesome, I have the PAS 40 down pretty good, this exercise makes me dream of being this good.

    • @b-sideplank
      @b-sideplank 10 років тому +1

      Would you recommend to a beginner, which I am, to learn the PAS 40 right away. Because some do say, without dismissing its importance, that it is not necessary for a drum set player to slavishly learn these before everything else and try to learn them slowly over time. What is your experience?

    • @mlh333
      @mlh333 10 років тому +2

      Saqib Saqib Oh wow, thanks for asking! I'll do my best in sharing my thoughts!
      I would agree that a person can be successful on the drums without learning the PAS 40 right away or even at all. However, there are at least a few of the PAS 40 that all drummers will use and possibly not realize they are part of the rudiments. Such as the single stroke roll, single stroke four, multiple bounce (buzz) roll, and the flam. That's how it was for me at least.
      I was 13 years old when I got my first drum-set. I tried taking a few lessons, but ultimately, I did not have the discipline to stick with it. So instead, I just learned everything by ear and played the drums by feeling it. If someone would have told me that, unless I learned to read and count, I was otherwise forbidden to play the drums, I probably would have given up.
      It wasn't until years later that I became interested in learning how to read drum notation. And when I got my first copy of the PAS 40 I realized that I already knew some of the basic rudiments.
      Yet, each of us must find what works for our own particular circumstances. For example, some drummers start out in band playing mostly the snare drum. In this instance, learning the rudiments is essential. But I think people that begin in drum corp, for example, focus more on being regimented which tends to be technical and precise and often times stiff. And if at a later point they become drum-set players learning to groove and be less metronomic is required.
      A while back, I heard a drummer, which I highly admire say just that, in which she began in drum corp and later on became a drum-set player and learning to groove was part of the process.
      I would agree that learning the entire PAS 40 as a requirement prior to the drum-set is unnecessary and could be distracting or even self-defeating especially if it is an all or nothing deal.
      But successful drumming is a lot about encoding our muscle memory with as much memory-diversity into our automatic-muscle-reflex as possible, and for me that is why I like practicing the PAS 40 even if some of them don't make sense in their drum-set application.
      In my experience and probably for other people, too, I tend to get anxious and want to rush things along and sometimes give up too easily if I don't see immediate results. But many tutorials and drum books I have studied from successful drummers always advise:
      Go slow, it is not a race.
      Take your time and set a good foundation and don't worry about having to learn everything in a day, week, month or even a year. Just practice as much as you can and take things on as you see fit.
      Sorry that was a bit long, take care and happy drumming!

    • @b-sideplank
      @b-sideplank 10 років тому +2

      *****
      Thanks so much for taking the time to write this. This makes sense to me. I think subconsciously I tell myself if I go through the trouble of learning all 40 rudiments perfectly they will automatically make me a great player. That's probably the reason I was considering going through that route. But you have to think beyond technicality if the counsel of the experienced is any guide. Thanks again.

    • @johnwooton
      @johnwooton 10 років тому +5

      That is correct Kurt! Rudiments and Rudimental technique alone will not make you a great drummer. I do not consider myself only a Rudimental drummer. I am a musician first. My technique must compliment all I do, not corrupt it. Too many Rudimental drummers don't see the rudiments as means to an end but the end itself. Same is true about many set players. They are not very diverse in the same way because they do not have any foundation or technique. Think about the great drummers that are extremely diverse. They are all competent Rudimental players... Vinnie, Garibaldi, Weckl, Gadd!, Pat Patrillo, Tommy Igoe, (btw, Pat and Tommy marched in the Bridgemen D&B Corps together in 1981. Let me continue... buddy Rich, Jim Chapin, Ricky Sebastian, Greg Bissonette, Jason Sutton (look up his snare solo on UA-cam, then look up his brush work video, then look up his performances with Marylin Manson), Dan Wojo... I can go on... Now, how many set players do you know that play with no touch? Is it because they have no Rudimental technique? How many Rudimental players do you know that are stiff and have no soul? I know many. Either is ok if you are having fun, but if you want to be a complete musician you have to study music from every angle. Good luck and don't stop learning. Ever.

    • @mlh333
      @mlh333 10 років тому +2

      John Wooton Dr. Wooton, I just wanted to say how encouraged I am that you took the time to comment. I was reluctant to post this, because as a student, protocol would defer to the expert having the last word, yet it is because few authorities respond in such an affirming way, I found it almost imperative to let my thanks be known. Thanks again!

  • @ChuckFrasher
    @ChuckFrasher 8 років тому

    Very nice tutorial!

  • @poppopscarvinshop
    @poppopscarvinshop 10 років тому

    Fantastic! Thanks Much!

  • @stephensmith6790
    @stephensmith6790 3 роки тому

    Love it! Like this better than today's boys trying to ram as many notes as they can per measure.

  • @carl-stevensinkler7894
    @carl-stevensinkler7894 5 років тому +1

    Damn y’all choppin like that in 1987😦😝

  • @giannos666
    @giannos666 10 років тому +9

    Schwarzenegger is that you?

  • @chricher89
    @chricher89 10 років тому +10

    Where can I find the sheet music for this to practice?

    • @VicFirthCompany
      @VicFirthCompany  10 років тому +6

      It's on the video, Chris! If you don't want to watch the vid over and over, you can always stop it when a new measure appears and take a screen shot.

    • @chricher89
      @chricher89 10 років тому

      Thanks I'll give it a shot.

    • @zanestackhouse8297
      @zanestackhouse8297 9 років тому +4

      Vic Firth I think you should maybe leave a link to the sheet music, because I also find it time consuming and difficult to watch the screen the whole time

    • @virgilaguila5078
      @virgilaguila5078 9 років тому +3

      what i do is watch the whole vid to see about how many "full bars" as i call them that he plays and then i draw those bars on a sheet of paper. then i go through the vid again stopping at every point where he plays a full section or "bar" and i notate it on the sheet of paper, later measures can be added to the bars according to the vid. basically start out with about 4 lines on the sheet and write each section as you see it in the order he plays it on screen hopefully this will help with practice so u dont have to watch the vid each time.

    • @stevenhatcher9133
      @stevenhatcher9133 5 років тому

      why not screenshot the page each time a bar comes up

  • @confidentialconfidential9793
    @confidentialconfidential9793 9 років тому

    Man, you really like those flammed-diddled sixteenths

  • @josshlegg8647
    @josshlegg8647 10 років тому +4

    in the snare drum world, what difficulty level would this lick be considered? I'm just a drumkit player and haven't done much rudimental snare drumming

    • @catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat
      @catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat 5 років тому

      Way late to reply and I am sure in the past four years you have learned already, but just for future readers benefit. This would be a very difficult piece to play in the context of performing it cleanly with 8 plus other people at tempo.

    • @EmergedBird
      @EmergedBird 5 років тому

      Roger Morris I love how the original comment was 4 years old and you just replied after 4 years

    • @catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat
      @catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat 5 років тому

      I just saw it...
      :)

  • @TIRABATERA
    @TIRABATERA 10 років тому

    Great!!!

  • @beeseenbeats5012
    @beeseenbeats5012 8 років тому +7

    Brrrrrraaat i got broads in Atlanta 😂

  • @collectingclassics
    @collectingclassics 7 років тому +1

    awsome

  • @IsaiahLamb
    @IsaiahLamb 10 років тому +1

    I definitely know better than to argue with a doctor, but his technique seems a bit foreign to me. I am not really sure what it is...maybe just more arm than I'm used to? Is that how technique used to be, or is it more of a pipe band style? Also, Dr. Wooton if you see this, don't hurt me, haha! I am still very impressed and inspired by you!

    • @OrangeAtomicRugTM
      @OrangeAtomicRugTM 6 років тому

      Isaiah Lamb they used to play like that to be more rudimental and uniform. Now we use more wrist to go faster

  • @tigerthekittyful
    @tigerthekittyful 7 років тому

    Why does the title say 87/88 when the licks are from 88 and 89?

  • @blaine8197
    @blaine8197 4 роки тому

    One thing I noticed is that the last measure of this lick is in his solo Africa Hot

  • @bluepenguin4345
    @bluepenguin4345 6 років тому

    What kind of drum head and body are you using in this video, and where can I get I? Could I find it on Amazon, and if so, where?

  • @ms-mo8hl
    @ms-mo8hl 3 роки тому

    What song was that

  • @joefontana6673
    @joefontana6673 7 років тому

    any chance of getting the written chart??? great stuff...........

    • @aimesdaddy
      @aimesdaddy 4 роки тому

      Joe Fontana exactly id love a pdf of this.

  • @gOofy-_.
    @gOofy-_. 5 років тому

    This reminds me of the lickety split quote "let me play at a slower tempo. PLAYS SAME SPEED XD

  • @littlelamp100
    @littlelamp100 6 років тому

    those double strokes are so even it sounds like a machine gun haha

  • @kenphill24
    @kenphill24 7 років тому +1

    aye yu missed part after the 3 flams you didnt teach that you went straight to the 8stroke

  • @tylerbonner4547
    @tylerbonner4547 10 років тому +1

    Learned it took me an hour but I learned this one

  • @deuceandrews7431
    @deuceandrews7431 5 років тому

    in glad he slowed down, unlike Emmanuel Deleon

  • @programmedwrong3795
    @programmedwrong3795 7 років тому +2

    He says 88 and 89. But, it is actually 87 and 88.

  • @percmartin
    @percmartin 8 років тому

    3:25 look at the flick of the wrist.

  • @aaroncoe9046
    @aaroncoe9046 5 років тому

    This guy is hilarious

  • @nickgodi9001
    @nickgodi9001 10 років тому

    do you have the bass drum tatoo

  • @colinr5189
    @colinr5189 6 років тому

    Cool but wth are those earbuds

  • @WhiteHawk1199
    @WhiteHawk1199 7 років тому

    1:57

  • @themarquee1497
    @themarquee1497 2 роки тому

    You gotta break it down and slow it down so you can throw it down.

  • @shanemonteiro
    @shanemonteiro 7 років тому +2

    lmao i thought 87/88 was the time signature

  • @Econcrafter
    @Econcrafter 7 років тому +4

    Why am I watching this. I play tuba!

  • @Tealmaker
    @Tealmaker 6 років тому

    Easy

  • @JBmusicart
    @JBmusicart 4 роки тому

    Very "Fluid" drumming.

  • @twinpolarities207
    @twinpolarities207 6 років тому +7

    “It’s basically a flam accent, but with a diddle”
    So it’s a cheese?

  • @eboone
    @eboone 6 років тому

    Is it 88/89 or 87/88????

    • @MrDavebelow
      @MrDavebelow 4 роки тому +1

      First lick 87, 2nd 88

    • @eboone
      @eboone 2 роки тому

      Wtf I was watching this 3 years ago

  • @tannerevans2584
    @tannerevans2584 7 років тому

    4:10 Lol.

  • @75Veritas
    @75Veritas 4 роки тому

    Not my tempo.

  • @steamfend333
    @steamfend333 5 років тому

    I don't even play snare. I play the Trumpet. Why am I here

  • @enewhuis
    @enewhuis 5 років тому

    What do you mean "ancient" ? ;-) LOL

  • @JacenT1D
    @JacenT1D 5 років тому

    In my opinion, these videos aren't really that helpful when learning these rudiments because he just expects you to get it after playing it twice

    • @lazaglider
      @lazaglider 5 років тому

      Jacen Scaggs You could always ask for a refund.

  • @istompconservativeass2029
    @istompconservativeass2029 9 років тому

    although Phantom's drumline was never really worth a shit under Marty Hurley, their drummers did have some chops