Supreme Court BANS Faithless Electors…………?

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  • @Vassilinia
    @Vassilinia 4 роки тому +12977

    I love how every time Grey shows the Supreme Court they look wholly uninterested in whatever's happening at the time. 😂

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 4 роки тому +1372

      When you have states like New York dumping dirt on an island to declare ownership, you get rather bored of petty shenanigans pretty quickly

    • @jacksonwilliams8971
      @jacksonwilliams8971 4 роки тому +316

      If the Constitution almost completely forbade that you get fired (ya ya I know about Samuel Chase), would you still pretend to care about your job?

    • @flazzorb
      @flazzorb 4 роки тому +285

      That's probably because they usually do, after all, most cases they handle are either _"tripe but necessary"_ or _"tedious and important"_

    • @Fusselwurmify
      @Fusselwurmify 4 роки тому +109

      @@jacksonwilliams8971 heck yes. hint: not every job is mindless drudgery that no-one enjoys.

    • @jamesklark6562
      @jamesklark6562 4 роки тому +43

      They just split Oklahoma in half over a child diddling dispute just 2 days ago.

  • @TheOneHistoryGuy
    @TheOneHistoryGuy 4 роки тому +8943

    *See title*
    Me: "Ooooh, this could be interesting!"
    CGP Grey: "Literally nothing has changed"
    Me: "Oh..."

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 4 роки тому +246

      Indeed, this is the most CGP Grey video that Grey has made in some time. Complete with his signature deadpan.

    • @bokkenka
      @bokkenka 4 роки тому +79

      CGP Grey: "But I did get a video out of it, so that's something!"

    • @SwordsmanRyan
      @SwordsmanRyan 4 роки тому +13

      A lot has changed! States, too beholden to their political class, have been pushing to outlaw faithless electors. It used to be that faithless electors were an extra check against stupid voters who, when they discovered the election was actually between Kang and Kodos, voted for Kang. The electors could ignore the ballot count and vote for H. Ross Perot, the only actual human in the running. With this ruling, we’re stuck listening to the stupid voters instead of their intellectual betters: the electoral college.

    • @KingMagenta
      @KingMagenta 4 роки тому +68

      Manannan anam What does China have to do with this?

    • @Stiksta
      @Stiksta 4 роки тому +25

      I really hate when the federal powers pass responsibility down to the states for things that should obviously be consistent nation wide. Like grow a damn ballsack and just do something that isn't at a snail's pace already. See everyone in 2055 when the last southern state finally legalizes marijuana while half the country has been enjoying it legally. Or god forbid, if something like UBI gets passed and only certain states get to enjoy it. Medicare for all (and not just old people) etc.

  • @luigivercotti6410
    @luigivercotti6410 3 роки тому +2116

    Politics is like trying to bugfix someone's horrible code without them wanting you to.

    • @GuiSmith
      @GuiSmith 2 роки тому +129

      A horrifying accurate analogy.

  • @royce957
    @royce957 4 роки тому +2197

    grey: 'nothing happened'
    me: 'i've learned so much'

    • @juniormatsuda5116
      @juniormatsuda5116 4 роки тому +29

      Me, a Brazilian : I am a master in American politics now

    • @scuevas1
      @scuevas1 4 роки тому +6

      Junior Matsuda come to America

    • @arieldahl
      @arieldahl 4 роки тому +2

      I came here looking for such a comment dear Royce sir.

    • @benurm2390
      @benurm2390 4 роки тому +5

      @@scuevas1 Brazil is on America

    • @RayanfhoulaBR
      @RayanfhoulaBR 4 роки тому +4

      @@scuevas1 This is the pure definition of "Uno reverse card"

  • @Racrdude24
    @Racrdude24 4 роки тому +2843

    I love the "image not found" for Mississippi's skirt 3:39

    • @maxblechman2665
      @maxblechman2665 4 роки тому +176

      Glad someone else noticed it, was just about to comment that.

    • @fdagpigj
      @fdagpigj 4 роки тому +85

      What's the joke there?

    • @meltedghost9922
      @meltedghost9922 4 роки тому +673

      @@fdagpigj as of June 30th Mississippi doesn't have an official state flag since that part of their state code was removed by their legislature so the joke is that the flag image was not found because it does not currently exist

    • @DreadGhast
      @DreadGhast 4 роки тому +354

      @@fdagpigj Mississippi just retired their old flag that had the Confederate flag as a part of it. They haven't decided on a new design yet, that I know of.

    • @daphnie816
      @daphnie816 4 роки тому +185

      @@fdagpigj Mississippi currently has the confederate flag emblem on their state flag. They recently passed a vote to get the flag design changed. (If you're not American, the confederate flag is what The South used in the civil war and is seen by MANY as a symbol of racism and slavery.)

  • @hoihoimonoi2715
    @hoihoimonoi2715 4 роки тому +1037

    I FINALLY FOUND THE BEE
    it's on the back of the train at 2:05

    • @frostyblade8842
      @frostyblade8842 4 роки тому +17

      Damn. Nice catch

    • @patrickbaker7014
      @patrickbaker7014 4 роки тому +114

      ??? Is there like a bee comeo in every video or something?

    • @Botassiumm
      @Botassiumm 4 роки тому +20

      I can’t beelieve it was there the whole time

    • @TornadoHarry
      @TornadoHarry 3 роки тому +88

      @@patrickbaker7014 yeah he hides one in every video

    • @patrickbaker7014
      @patrickbaker7014 3 роки тому +63

      @@TornadoHarry bruh that's sick, and also a perfect excuse to rewatch every video of his

  • @krisswolf2011
    @krisswolf2011 4 роки тому +2131

    I really appreciate him putting the effort in giving the states their own skirts and personalities. The cowboy hat and dual pistols on Texas is awesome

    • @danielwebb3173
      @danielwebb3173 4 роки тому +84

      And then Wyoming riding the bison

    • @jacoL8
      @jacoL8 4 роки тому +86

      And Mississippi not having a flag lol

    • @djhalling
      @djhalling 4 роки тому +24

      Is there some reason why Rhode Island is stuck outside looking unhappy at 0:12? Or, for that matter, why only one (Michigan?) looks happy?

    • @ragepoweredgamer
      @ragepoweredgamer 4 роки тому +12

      I think you mean DUEL PISTOLS!
      _Yeehaws and shoots into the air while doing the prospector dance_

    • @TlalocTemporal
      @TlalocTemporal 4 роки тому +12

      @@djhalling -- I'd guess that the electoral college was developed before Rhode Island became a state, or otherwise didn't get it's way.

  • @l.u.i.s._.8452
    @l.u.i.s._.8452 4 роки тому +2827

    The court: hey states remember that things we agreed on like a few 100 years ago.
    The states: yeah
    The court: good just reminding you it exist

    • @EpicMathTime
      @EpicMathTime 4 роки тому +59

      -we did a thing-

    • @grovemeister04
      @grovemeister04 4 роки тому +27

      Brilliant

    • @justanotheranimationchanne5725
      @justanotheranimationchanne5725 4 роки тому +2

      1000 SUBBS B4 COVID 19 no thank you

    • @mirookhedr8429
      @mirookhedr8429 4 роки тому

      @@venttiktok2477 يا حبيبي انت معرفش

    • @grovemeister04
      @grovemeister04 4 роки тому +7

      @@venttiktok2477 Really guy? I came to CPG Grey's channel because he's got amazing content a great community and you have to come down and ruin my immersion? I'm kind of dissapointed with youtube's soulless copy pasted comment section anyway and you aren't helping.

  • @klosnj11
    @klosnj11 4 роки тому +746

    I love the level of apathy showed by the Supreme Court Stick Figure.

    • @nenmaster5218
      @nenmaster5218 3 роки тому +8

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  • @TheAnon26
    @TheAnon26 4 роки тому +2747

    Hes really knocking it out of the park these days... Ive lost count of how many videos hes done this year! :O

    • @funtainment777
      @funtainment777 4 роки тому +84

      i think 5 or 6 counting the pirate videos separately

    • @oliverm1255
      @oliverm1255 4 роки тому +34

      Its insane!

    • @mervinhocsonart1921
      @mervinhocsonart1921 4 роки тому +106

      I guess that's what happens when you're mandated to stay at home for 90% of the time.

    • @PunkHerr
      @PunkHerr 4 роки тому +14

      @@funtainment777 I'd say 9? I looked it up.

    • @saw7191
      @saw7191 4 роки тому +5

      Good for him!

  • @TheRealDoctorBonkus
    @TheRealDoctorBonkus 4 роки тому +749

    I love how the music is a chill version of the “grey explains” music because *nothing* really happened

    • @MatthewMilton
      @MatthewMilton 4 роки тому +1

      Should I quit youtube my friends keep making fun of me for it

    • @zeroanimation3956
      @zeroanimation3956 4 роки тому +4

      @@MatthewMilton dude WTF?

    • @ollie2111
      @ollie2111 4 роки тому

      Really? I'm gonna watch it again just to hear that ☺

    • @Lucas_Jeffrey
      @Lucas_Jeffrey 4 роки тому +4

      @@MatthewMilton yes you should, absolutely

    • @louistyrone871
      @louistyrone871 4 роки тому +4

      @@MatthewMilton yes. get your money up and your time up, and do what you want once you outta school or whatever

  • @NexGenration99
    @NexGenration99 4 роки тому +3258

    i like how grey is able to be so involved in politics on his channel and yet not give any information on his political views at all. i like it. keep it purely educational :)

    • @Miranox2
      @Miranox2 4 роки тому +348

      He is just explaining how the system works. However, since he is clearly in favor of removing the Electoral College then it's also clear which side of the political aisle he fits in.

    • @NexGenration99
      @NexGenration99 4 роки тому +76

      @@Miranox2 and that side off the political fence would be? i get mixed up sometimes with what sides stand for what

    • @Miranox2
      @Miranox2 4 роки тому +284

      @@NexGenration99 In the popular left-right spectrum, CGP Grey is definitely on the left. He's probably center-left since he's more detached than the average person.

    • @NexGenration99
      @NexGenration99 4 роки тому +53

      @@Miranox2 so like technically on the left but not enough to be considered a "leftist"?

    • @Miranox2
      @Miranox2 4 роки тому +185

      @@NexGenration99 CGP is definitely no radical if that's what you mean. I wish more people on the left were like him.

  • @myopinionsarefacts
    @myopinionsarefacts 4 роки тому +1441

    Supreme court: this thing we already agreed on was agreed on
    News outlets: is this large changes to how our country elects officials?

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 4 роки тому +72

      The news seems adamant in eroding faith and confidence in elections.
      Well we can always go back to hereditary successors if that makes everyone happier (I doubt it would, I wouldn't be happy about it).

    • @Khaim.m
      @Khaim.m 4 роки тому +4

      Interestingly, that's also exactly the story with the _Russo_ case the other week. They agreed on the thing last time and just reaffirmed that yes it still counts.

    • @mollistuff
      @mollistuff 4 роки тому +13

      @@Marinealver The news definitely wouldn't be happy. You only get breaking news about royals when the previous one dies. Stability is pretty much their only virtue. According to UK precedent, there's a lot more boring filler about royal wardrobes though

    • @gadrill4285
      @gadrill4285 4 роки тому +28

      @@mollistuff Ah yes, monarchies: historically a very stable system that never led to civil war since the succession was always very clear cut and respected by all.

    • @Chronoflation
      @Chronoflation 4 роки тому +3

      Our media in a nutshell

  • @waerlogauk
    @waerlogauk 4 роки тому +1732

    We live in Strange Times when a court deciding that the status-quo still applies is headline news.

    • @charlottelondyn805
      @charlottelondyn805 4 роки тому +64

      Gwallter Rixon that could be a newspaper title. Yeah, the Strange Times... I like it.

    • @harrytsang1501
      @harrytsang1501 4 роки тому +25

      It is July, they need to make up some shit or some worse shit will happen like every other month in 2020

    • @Gyohdon
      @Gyohdon 4 роки тому +14

      the media is filled with halfwits and liars

    • @armedwombat6816
      @armedwombat6816 4 роки тому +8

      THAT'S what makes these times strange to you?

    • @jacksonlarson6099
      @jacksonlarson6099 4 роки тому +5

      @@armedwombat6816 It's the craziest thing that has happened this year, I tell ya.

  • @MichaelMoore99
    @MichaelMoore99 4 роки тому +1809

    I'm assuming the "image missing" flag is a reference to the current Mississippi flag issue.

    • @ericr.malice318
      @ericr.malice318 4 роки тому +41

      Probably. What about Tennesse though? And Georgia? Sorry, I'm Welsh, so I'm not sure if I got the state-flag combos right.

    • @dylandylan5814
      @dylandylan5814 4 роки тому +11

      @@ericr.malice318 its mainly about Mississippi because they were the first to leave the union so its a hot topic down here.

    • @Jedibob5
      @Jedibob5 4 роки тому +152

      @@dylandylan5814 South Carolina was the first state to secede from the union.

    • @sashavaleria4287
      @sashavaleria4287 4 роки тому +87

      @@ericr.malice318 the issue is really only with the mississippi state flag, as it's the only current US state flag that contains the confederate states of america battle standard on it. Those other states you mentioned, do not, and as such aren't any issue.

    • @sashavaleria4287
      @sashavaleria4287 4 роки тому +41

      to further expound on this, alabama and florida both use a red cross of st. andrews as the basis of their flag, and while it does invoke the confederate battle standard, it can also invoke the Spanish Cross of Burgundy, and is also just a really weird symbol to get touchy about (IMO) as it's like, also in other flags that have nothing to do with the confederacy
      Georgia's flag is sometimes equated to the confederate stars and bars, the actual national flag of the confederacy, but honestly i'd take it over the flag georgia used in 2000 any day of the year. the one they use now is pretty damn close to the first ever official georgia flag anyway so meh

  • @sclair2854
    @sclair2854 4 роки тому +1404

    Big thumbs up for the "Top Sneaky" file

    • @metadragon7500
      @metadragon7500 4 роки тому +27

      You would think NaPoVoInterCo girl would use the ‘boring documents pertaining to elections’ folder in the previous video.

    • @xja85mac
      @xja85mac 4 роки тому +1

      I want to see it!

    • @awhahoo
      @awhahoo 4 роки тому +3

      Top sneaky

    • @captainrexct7529
      @captainrexct7529 4 роки тому +3

      Being interested in the NaPoVoInterCo vote, seeing this video pop up in my sub box gave me a momentary heart attack thinking that it was kaput.

  • @erik_gutierrez
    @erik_gutierrez 4 роки тому +473

    *The Supreme Court has made a ruling: absolutely nothing has changed!*
    Yeah that sounds about right.

    • @MrBassmann15
      @MrBassmann15 4 роки тому +8

      Supreme Court: The state of Georgia cannot force Native Americans off of their property.
      Andrew Jackson: You've made your decision, now try to enforce it.

    • @jamesklark6562
      @jamesklark6562 4 роки тому +2

      The Supreme Court just a few days ago split the state of Oklahoma in half over a child diddling dispute. Imagine your Native American Nation being founded over child diddling.

    • @christianaquilina5434
      @christianaquilina5434 4 роки тому

      Welcome to legal quantum state, Yes and No, no but yes. It serves to make sure the rules haven t changed. Very little, in the right direction, still pretty little

  • @mingnahng9533
    @mingnahng9533 4 роки тому +71

    I'm so dumb I thought it meant that they didn't believe in God

  • @nepoleon92
    @nepoleon92 4 роки тому +2587

    “Absolutely nothing has changed” - American politics in a nutshell

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 4 роки тому +88

      "It just works"
      - Todd Howard

    • @mbogucki1
      @mbogucki1 4 роки тому +64

      @@davidhong1934 Except it doesn't; see gerrymandering for example.

    • @archbishopmactasty76
      @archbishopmactasty76 4 роки тому +10

      @@dr1zzled_d1ce14 If you take into account how large America is what do your expect?

    • @Salted_Fysh
      @Salted_Fysh 4 роки тому +61

      @@dr1zzled_d1ce14 if by lazyness and tradition we mean corporate interest, personal gain and power politics of course.

    • @VAB0L0
      @VAB0L0 4 роки тому +34

      @@mbogucki1 It does work, though; power is kept in the hands of the wealthy, and wealth is kept away from the masses. It just doesn't work like we are told it does!

  • @ishner
    @ishner 4 роки тому +585

    Interestingly, I don't think state laws can actually invalidate a faithless vote, just punish the guy when he comes home.

    • @zachhopkins6162
      @zachhopkins6162 4 роки тому +99

      They do/can actually. 33 (including DC) require by law that they vote for the democratically chosen. About 8 of those cancel the vote made by a faithless elector.

    • @connorschultz380
      @connorschultz380 4 роки тому +63

      @@zachhopkins6162 they may say they do, but the supreme court has never actually said If there able to cancel the vote or not from my understanding there only able to place conditions on them becoming/beinging an elector, and they can't interfere with the vote after

    • @Tinfoil_Hardhat
      @Tinfoil_Hardhat 4 роки тому +43

      @@zachhopkins6162 Well there are 8 states that don't follow recognized self defense rights, so states doing something doesn't mean they're supposed to.

    • @regaleagle6533
      @regaleagle6533 4 роки тому +20

      @@Tinfoil_Hardhat I believe 35 states have stand your ground laws and don't follow recognized self defense rights.

    • @regaleagle6533
      @regaleagle6533 4 роки тому +14

      @@a.wadderphiltyr1559 I just don't like legalized southern white on black murder.

  • @Leander_
    @Leander_ 4 роки тому +4665

    Hey Grey, this is a small point, but I'm colorblind, and the distinction between the orange and the yellow candidates is sometimes a little bit hard to see. For future work, could the contrast between the colors be increased? I think this would increase watchability/interpretability, even for non-colorblind people.

    • @Dude-cf8hb
      @Dude-cf8hb 4 роки тому +633

      how about he just adds symbols for orange and symbols for yellow? that way, the issue of colourblind people is solved without changing the colours of the 'parties'

    • @Leander_
      @Leander_ 4 роки тому +413

      @@Dude-cf8hb Sure, that works. Just party 'A' and party 'B'.

    • @cogspace
      @cogspace 4 роки тому +44

      Maybe upvote orange and downvote blue? =)

    • @dmtha3rd
      @dmtha3rd 4 роки тому +151

      @@cogspace nah, to similar to red and blue. The current party colors

    • @pacattack2586
      @pacattack2586 4 роки тому +146

      @@dmtha3rd Blue and yellow are the best possible colors for colorblind people you could also use white and black but that has... more issues

  • @Kidd-In-Charge
    @Kidd-In-Charge 4 роки тому +38

    The best update video: teaches you something, while concluding that nothing has changed

  • @SandTheNub
    @SandTheNub 4 роки тому +887

    I'm starting to feel that Grey is getting kinda obsessed with the EC

    • @Adventurer32
      @Adventurer32 4 роки тому +25

      Ya think?

    • @Detahramet
      @Detahramet 4 роки тому +154

      It is kind of an abortion of democracy.

    • @pinkysweets
      @pinkysweets 4 роки тому +103

      anyone that's interested in political science should. This is something that should not work in modern time actually still working

    • @Ergzay
      @Ergzay 4 роки тому +121

      @@Detahramet Well it wasn't supposed to be democracy... That was never the intention. As Grey stated in another video "working as planned".

    • @MrSaverio97
      @MrSaverio97 4 роки тому +1

      No I think it's only a coincidence

  • @vidgami46
    @vidgami46 4 роки тому +23

    FINALLY someone clarifies the difference between saying what the states CAN do and what actually happens.

  • @william840
    @william840 4 роки тому +178

    Wait, this is all a ruse!
    The Supreme Court isn’t deciding on Faithless Electors.
    They’re deciding on what to do with Tumbleweeds!

    • @mothiieeo
      @mothiieeo 4 роки тому +2

      NOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @gavros9636
      @gavros9636 4 роки тому +6

      We already decided on that one, we were going to deport them to reservations.

    • @madeinchina4179
      @madeinchina4179 4 роки тому +2

      Now that you know the secret, we can’t let you leave

  • @johnrildo2325
    @johnrildo2325 4 роки тому +185

    Well this did accomplish one thing. Now no one can challenge the states when they punish or ban faithless electors, because the supreme court has recently given them updated permission to do it.

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 4 роки тому +20

      Yes. I find his explanation unpersuasive. This year, being the most contentious in my long American experience, needed a binding affirmation of our electoral principles. People find it difficult to have faith in the political process already. They don't need the possibility of faithless electors stealing the election adding to their grief. And we have a unanimous decision to boot. Certainty is a welcome change from the daily chaos.
      The case originated from three faithless electors bringing suit for being fined for voting the wrong way in the 2016 election. The High Court held that "A State may enforce an elector’s pledge to support his party’s nominee-and the state voters’ choice-for President." They also stated that there is no language in the US Constitution granting electors voting discretion. That's not a "nothing burger" from my perspective. Electors are not free to vote as they see fit, and that principle is now backed by a 9-0 Supreme-Court mandate.

    • @OnTreader
      @OnTreader 4 роки тому +13

      @@joesterling4299 Perhaps these certain people would benefit from actually learning about the political process rather than allowing corrupt party politics to continue warping it? Electors are free to vote as they see fit in any state that doesn't pass laws punishing them for doing so. Electors are supposed to be faithless. You are not supposed to elect the President, the states are. The same way you elect senators to represent your state in Congress, you elect electors to represent your state in the Electoral College.
      You do not elect any of them to make the decisions you want to make. If you want to make decisions then you become an elector/senator/representative etc.
      You elect them to make the decisions they think they should make.
      The daily chaos exists because of people's ignorance and refusal to take a meaningful and HONEST role in the political process.

    • @OnTreader
      @OnTreader 4 роки тому +7

      @Brandon Gibson be careful not to stray into other people's neighborhoods and try to change what you want.

    • @TheAwesomeLetsPlays
      @TheAwesomeLetsPlays 4 роки тому +13

      @@joesterling4299 That's just it, though - it affirms the states' rights to punish faithless electors IF THEY CHOOSE. That, to me, gives no extra stability to this political climate, as now, if states choose not to punish these electors, SCOTUS has also affirmed the right for that to occur. It's a double-edged sword; in that, you cannot have one without the other, and if you have the potential for increased instability, you cannot then have stability.

    • @jjtomecek1623
      @jjtomecek1623 4 роки тому +4

      That was literally already the status quo based off of a previous supreme court case. Nothing's changed except that now everyone is reminded of what the rules are.

  • @radarreally2110
    @radarreally2110 4 роки тому +487

    The states are in charge of the voting process arent they? Why would the Supreme Court do anything else but say, "This is your job. Actually do it."

    • @eifbkcn
      @eifbkcn 4 роки тому +30

      The question was on the authority of the states themselves though. Even so, the Court should have largely stayed out of the matter. If a bunch of electors were corrupted Congress can just not count their votes. The only thing the Court needed to do was say Washington couldn't fine people for their votes after Congress said they didn't have a problem with the votes cast. As you can see, the Court failed this simple task.

    • @sanjicook08
      @sanjicook08 4 роки тому +4

      @666NedFlanders The states hold an election for President, not the federal government.

    • @jamesbond9975
      @jamesbond9975 4 роки тому +9

      @@sanjicook08 The states also hold elections for their Congressional representation as well but it doesn't change the fact that it's a federal election. States have tried passing term limit laws for congressman but the courts have ruled these laws are unconstitutional.

    • @aolson1111
      @aolson1111 4 роки тому

      @@sanjicook08 That has nothing to do with his comment.

    • @easyenetwork2023
      @easyenetwork2023 4 роки тому +1

      @@eifbkcn Yes. Especially with a President who believes in states’s right to their own governments.

  • @onedeadsaint
    @onedeadsaint 4 роки тому +931

    you just couldn't resist saying "nothing burger," could you?

    • @NonTwinBrothers
      @NonTwinBrothers 4 роки тому +7

      I thought he was gonna spell an acronym for it, lol

    • @muhilan8540
      @muhilan8540 4 роки тому +2

      What is with every politician and cable news pundit saying that phrase lately?

    • @DefenestrateYourself
      @DefenestrateYourself 4 роки тому +8

      Muhilan Selvaa It’s been around for awhile

    • @325bpm6
      @325bpm6 4 роки тому +1

      325th like (I think

    • @onedeadsaint
      @onedeadsaint 4 роки тому +1

      @@325bpm6 yep lol

  • @xbzq
    @xbzq 4 роки тому +32

    Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Big News from the political front: Nothing has changed!

  • @mutt8553
    @mutt8553 3 роки тому +276

    Whenever I was younger, I thought voting was pointless because there was a small group of people who chose the President, and our votes didn’t do anything. The fact that I was kind of right over 10 years ago is a little scary

    • @nenmaster5218
      @nenmaster5218 3 роки тому +3

      Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff,
      cause why not?
      Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)...
      Here:
      -Veritasium.
      -Its ok to be smart.
      -Hbomberguy.
      -Oversimplified.
      -Krosmo.
      -Viced Rhino.
      -Believe it or Not.
      -Redditor.
      -Michio Kaku.
      -Practical Engineering.
      -Neil Red.
      -Slevin Channel.
      -Magma Musen.

    • @mkgaca8721
      @mkgaca8721 3 роки тому +21

      @@nenmaster5218 wait why do this in replies???

    • @gootz3182
      @gootz3182 2 роки тому +22

      @@AlphaCarinae The _states_ cast it, not the _people_ . The states are free to vote _however they want_ , even against the citizens (but this is rare)

    • @edwardwilson8713
      @edwardwilson8713 2 роки тому +8

      @@AlphaCarinae Yes remove the middle man that is oh right, having a different person than the people wanted to be president be president, how horrible

    • @lukem5202
      @lukem5202 2 роки тому +1

      There are other, better ways to interact with politics without just voting in elections.

  • @protocol6
    @protocol6 4 роки тому +195

    It doesn't even allow states to prevent faithless electors. It just allows them to punish faithless electors after the fact. That's a critical difference, legally.

    • @MechanicalMarketer253
      @MechanicalMarketer253 4 роки тому +16

      Doesn’t matter anyway. Even if being a faithless elector is legal in your state, it’s political suicide.

    • @hogpen
      @hogpen 4 роки тому +75

      @@MechanicalMarketer253 a coup is always political suicide.... if it fails.

    • @tocomment9638
      @tocomment9638 4 роки тому +5

      agreed, was just going to say this. Disappointed that Grey didn't make this clear.

    • @ObeseYeti
      @ObeseYeti 4 роки тому +21

      AFAIK the case was separated into two cases; one about the states punishing faithless electors, the other about states removing someone who switched their vote and replacing them with someone who will vote as pledged. I believe the supreme court upheld both

    • @Walkerman379
      @Walkerman379 4 роки тому +10

      @@ObeseYeti Yes, exactly. in 2016 there were electors in Colorado and Minnesota who tried to cast votes for Sanders but they got overruled and swapped out for alternate electors.

  • @danielvrska1744
    @danielvrska1744 4 роки тому +666

    Grey: turns on member only
    Me: sorts comments by new so he can chat
    This is big brain time

    • @TheBluePhoenix008
      @TheBluePhoenix008 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah

    • @maximuscraig8222
      @maximuscraig8222 4 роки тому

      the intellect

    • @cookiecakeeater6340
      @cookiecakeeater6340 4 роки тому +1

      Good idea

    • @AwesomeTheAsim
      @AwesomeTheAsim 4 роки тому +2

      This is stolen and you didn't even care when you wrote this. What do you mean "He can chat"
      W and H are not close, you wrote this only for likes.

    • @astra_m00n
      @astra_m00n 4 роки тому +9

      @@AwesomeTheAsim It only implies the commentor what a 'he'. It was not a misspelling. He is a he.

  • @beccag2758
    @beccag2758 4 роки тому +174

    “You had to be in the capital where it’s happening”
    You mean you wanna be in the room where it happens?

    • @generic9732
      @generic9732 4 роки тому +1

      hamilton?

    • @warren5037
      @warren5037 4 роки тому +3

      ABSOLUTELY. Bring some snacks too.

    • @Yal_Rathol
      @Yal_Rathol 4 роки тому +6

      the room where it happens. the room where it happens. the room where it happens. i gotta be in the room. the room where it happens.

    • @adjbey
      @adjbey 4 роки тому

      🤣🤣🙃😂

    • @Campeon99
      @Campeon99 3 роки тому +3

      @@Yal_Rathol no one else was in the room where it happens, the room where it happens, the room where it happens

  • @ZeusTheIrritable
    @ZeusTheIrritable 4 роки тому +375

    "Absolutely nothing has changed."
    That is damn near the official motto of the United States.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 роки тому +19

      It is the motto of nearly every country, most especially conservative ones...

    • @Fassle
      @Fassle 4 роки тому +19

      conservatism in a nutshell

    • @mrroams5812
      @mrroams5812 4 роки тому

      Isn't that literally every place in the world? Social change doesnt just happen overnight.

    • @TheSorrel
      @TheSorrel 4 роки тому +1

      @@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Thats what you get from a system that is run almost exclusively by old people.
      Is it normal to hate old people for being old when you hit 30?

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 роки тому +10

      @rudiger891 I was talking mostly about countries with very conservative cultures and governments... like monarchies...

  • @mac1st485
    @mac1st485 4 роки тому +231

    people after are going to be so confused when the chat is empty and the comments make no sense

    • @agisg4077
      @agisg4077 4 роки тому +6

      Like now for example?

    • @jamesr.2017
      @jamesr.2017 4 роки тому +22

      For future people: gray turned on members only chat, and you essentially had to pay 5 dollars to talk in live chat.

    • @x--.
      @x--. 4 роки тому +3

      @@jamesr.2017 Thank you for that clarification. I wasn't even aware there was such a thing as Members Only Chat on UA-cam.

    • @linklayer1318
      @linklayer1318 4 роки тому +1

      @@x--. You can see it on Pewdiepie streams

  • @rosssanders3795
    @rosssanders3795 3 роки тому +25

    "As for now, absolutely nothing has changed." Whelp that's the U.S. government for you

  • @sord3377
    @sord3377 4 роки тому +46

    So the supreme court just said "GET OUTTA MY COURTROOM I DID THIS LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO"

  • @OsthatoCat
    @OsthatoCat 4 роки тому +56

    And not only does it not actively ban them, the ruling was just over whether states can punish faithless electors. The faithless votes still count regardless.

    • @lued123
      @lued123 3 роки тому +8

      8 states have laws that say the vote is nullified, but it's unclear whether they can actually do that.

  • @ems810
    @ems810 4 роки тому +64

    Question that will probably never be answered: How does this system with electors work if a state votes for an independent candidate, not connected to either party?

    • @MechanicalMarketer253
      @MechanicalMarketer253 4 роки тому +20

      Then that party would send their own electors

    • @ems810
      @ems810 4 роки тому +12

      @@MechanicalMarketer253 Independent. Not connected to "a" party. Sorry if unclear.

    • @MechanicalMarketer253
      @MechanicalMarketer253 4 роки тому +27

      Silver oh I see. Well that probably isn’t very likely to happen, but if it did then the state would probably just create a party and electors and send them. They’d probably have to do that REALLY fast though.

    • @Quintinohthree
      @Quintinohthree 4 роки тому +51

      Candidates appearring on a ballot have designated their nominated electors in advance. As far as the state us concerned, those nominated electors are the party.

    • @21stcenturyfossil7
      @21stcenturyfossil7 4 роки тому +8

      In Illinois, the Presidential election that counts is the election for the electors. If a Presidential candidate wins the popular vote but didn't run a slate of electors, that candidate would not get any electoral votes.

  • @AxeSoul
    @AxeSoul 4 роки тому +277

    2,000 people here, members only chat, and the only chat message is “please stop using premieres”
    Well this is just sad...

    • @joaovitormatos8147
      @joaovitormatos8147 4 роки тому +16

      That's the price you pay for member-only chat

    • @mac1st485
      @mac1st485 4 роки тому +1

      There is another

    • @natethegreat5968
      @natethegreat5968 4 роки тому

      I am broke

    • @BlindingLight
      @BlindingLight 4 роки тому +1

      I remember the video where he was at that missile test site
      I used the chat twice. Twice. Slow mode is good enough.

    • @frindjinny6
      @frindjinny6 4 роки тому +8

      This is what happens when you put up members only chat on a less than interesting video

  • @jadenschalck8640
    @jadenschalck8640 4 роки тому +98

    That was a really roundabout way of saying that nothing has changed.

    • @nomadMik
      @nomadMik 4 роки тому +4

      Ever read a statute? They're not exactly to the point.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 роки тому +1

      The Supreme Court (or any court for that matter) would still write a decision about it whether they changed it or not...

    • @Yasha277
      @Yasha277 4 роки тому

      No, he outright said it. The other stuff he said was explaining it.

  • @jonstephenson9660
    @jonstephenson9660 4 роки тому +4

    That’s actually really good to know. I got a little worried when I heard about it. Thanks for digging in

  • @careening1918
    @careening1918 4 роки тому +69

    props to grey for not adding a flag-skirt for Mississippi while the new flag is being made lmao 3:42

    • @deco90014
      @deco90014 4 роки тому

      I am not from USA,who is the mississippi? and who's the blond one?

    • @deathlightning55
      @deathlightning55 4 роки тому +2

      I came here looking for someone to say something about the missing flag. The broken image link was such a nice touch.

    • @reyntime8735
      @reyntime8735 4 роки тому

      Mississippi is two 2 column 5

  • @midnight_commander
    @midnight_commander 4 роки тому +58

    I love how bored the Supreme Court character looks.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 4 роки тому +75

    3:39 There's one state with no flag since Mississippi removed its flag last month. Nice detail.

    • @jakeodell-o9k
      @jakeodell-o9k 4 роки тому +1

      I should have just scrolled down instead of trying to figure it out myself...

    • @JoJoModding
      @JoJoModding 4 роки тому

      Also why does one have blonde hair and why is another one wearing flowers? And which states are it?

    • @Hawkeye3n
      @Hawkeye3n 4 роки тому +1

      @@JoJoModding the one with a flower is Hawaii and the blonde one is Utah

    • @emmteemee
      @emmteemee 4 роки тому +2

      In addition to being blonde, Utah is also wearing a tie. 🙂

    • @spartaleonidas7132
      @spartaleonidas7132 4 роки тому

      I'm missing the missippi person. edit: Had to scroll down for the directions

  • @seik_
    @seik_ 4 роки тому +214

    I mean it seems a bit sad that though around 13k people are watching, two of them are members and its seconds before it starts. So it seems mostly non-members come early. This makes me think that members-only chat shouldn't be on so that people who come 20 min early can talk about the subject. Also, even the TWO members who are here. The one who was here 10 min early ONLY commented to say HE DOESN'T want Premieres. The other just said nappavointerco, which while it is a comment, a lot of other people might be able to have better discussions about the video.

    • @samuelmatheson9655
      @samuelmatheson9655 4 роки тому +6

      Indeed

    • @samuelmatheson9655
      @samuelmatheson9655 4 роки тому +34

      The members are too busy working 6 figure jobs to come early

    • @mrayrick7631
      @mrayrick7631 4 роки тому

      Ye

    • @ctrl_x1770
      @ctrl_x1770 4 роки тому +4

      In my region i cant be a member. Which sucks.

    • @DoubleUTimes2
      @DoubleUTimes2 4 роки тому +3

      Bit weird IMO that things should become free just because people aren't paying or that (in this case) paying people aren't active chatters.
      I'm assuming Grey is having it on Members-only as an incentive so people will support him.

  • @JohnSmith-dz2dc
    @JohnSmith-dz2dc 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for clarifying this! Whenever I heard the decision I was super confused on what it actually meant and I was getting vastly different interpretations of the Supreme Court’s interpretation.

  • @Deufurth
    @Deufurth Рік тому +9

    I think UA-cam might be broken. I **just now** got a notification for this video

  • @ribottostudio
    @ribottostudio 4 роки тому +63

    *Everyone:* 2020 couldn't POSSIBLY get worse
    *November:* _sweats nervously_

    • @deathbysleeping
      @deathbysleeping 4 роки тому +3

      2021: sweats nervously

    • @Zoten001
      @Zoten001 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah, it seems like no matter who wins come November, people are going to get stupid.

    • @sfp2290
      @sfp2290 4 роки тому +2

      At this point, I think no matter the outcome, everyone will lose. xD

    • @jamesklark6562
      @jamesklark6562 4 роки тому +4

      I'm not voting for the specific someone who wants to give up my tax money to non-citizens.

    • @ChangeUrAtOnYT.comSlashHandle
      @ChangeUrAtOnYT.comSlashHandle 4 роки тому

      @@jamesklark6562 Hey who dat "someone" be?

  • @BrookerBracker
    @BrookerBracker 4 роки тому +87

    "Never in enough numbers to change the president"
    I mean, that depends how you look at Colorado's role in the 1876 election

    • @dcbadger2
      @dcbadger2 4 роки тому +16

      But that wasn't really faithless was it? It was the state legislature voting in absence of a general vote.

    • @Tytoalba777
      @Tytoalba777 4 роки тому +2

      1876 in general was a mess. I think two states had their votes nullified, a couple more were threatened, and the governor of Oregon tried to sneak a democrat into the college (would have been to flip it)

    • @jamesbond9975
      @jamesbond9975 4 роки тому

      @@Tytoalba777 It was in 1872 that two states had their votes nullified but the reason why the elector for Oregon was disqualified was because he was an elected official, who are barred by the US Consitution from becoming presidential electors.

  • @doublem1354
    @doublem1354 4 роки тому +14

    "Absolutely nothing has changed'
    *Me, a Eastern European* :
    "I didn't even know before what was that hadn't changed."

  • @mikefuquay9903
    @mikefuquay9903 4 роки тому +31

    My candidate wins: "The system works just fine".
    My candidate loses: "The system's outdated and needs to be fixed".

    • @NBFman1991
      @NBFman1991 4 роки тому +1

      Anakin: "I don't think the system works."

    • @New_Halge_Times
      @New_Halge_Times 4 роки тому

      Lmao

    • @sclair2854
      @sclair2854 4 роки тому

      Not always. In UK politics for example the SNP is in favour of vote reform, despite the fact that implementing vote reform would be detrimental to their number of seats.

    • @DracoGalboy
      @DracoGalboy 4 роки тому

      It's also something along the lines of the income lottery from Last Week Tonight: 'I know that the system is rigged, but that's what will make it so nice when I inevitably win.'

    • @Weebusaurus
      @Weebusaurus 4 роки тому

      dolan trompt

  • @theevilkoala9250
    @theevilkoala9250 4 роки тому +25

    Need to cover the Supreme Court decision that just happened that basically says half of Oklahoma is Native American land and not in the jurisdiction of the state of Oklahoma, only federal jurisdiction above native jurisdiction

    • @rymdalkis
      @rymdalkis 4 роки тому +3

      Cover it? It's been talked about all over the world. Even us here in Europe read about it. Isn't it pretty reasonable that the supreme court upholds a treaty that the US entered and has since never withdrawed from?

    • @p.bamygdala2139
      @p.bamygdala2139 4 роки тому

      Yes, please do take about this issue!
      Will it snowball into other states?
      I'm hoping Canada will take notice and follow suit!

    • @theevilkoala9250
      @theevilkoala9250 4 роки тому

      rymdalkis I’m not saying it isn’t being talked about. I would just like to see grey cover it. He’s great at fact finding and generally presents things in a fair and balanced way.

    • @beishtkione24
      @beishtkione24 4 роки тому

      @@rymdalkis no, it's actually not reasonable, because it will affect hundreds of thousands of Oklahoman Citizens that suddenly no longer live in their state. It also has the issue of all of those people now owning Nstive land, which wasn't previously allowed. They created what is going to be a shit show. Our Supreme Court has far too much power. They should be making the kinds of massive, society changing decisions that that they have been making.

    • @jamesbond9975
      @jamesbond9975 4 роки тому

      So yeah, looks like the Native Americans in Oklahoma are fans of Jeffery Epstein.

  • @JediMasterJoseph
    @JediMasterJoseph 4 роки тому +7

    Props to Grey for getting this out so quickly. You must have been hustling.

  • @sankethbhaskar4236
    @sankethbhaskar4236 4 роки тому +26

    3:38 Middle row, 5 across. Ah yes, the good ol' State of File Not Found (and Providence Plantations)

    • @massiminitrains
      @massiminitrains 4 роки тому +13

      That's Mississippi since they currently don't have a flag because they just resolved to change their flag to remove the Confederate Flag from it.

    • @danrobrish3664
      @danrobrish3664 4 роки тому +3

      @@massiminitrains Thanks for the explanation. Can you explain why one state has blonde hair and wears a necktie? (I get that the one with the lei is Hawaii.)

    • @jeffbenton6183
      @jeffbenton6183 4 роки тому +1

      @@danrobrish3664 Using the fact that these 32 states are in alphabetical order and then examining each of the flags, I deduce that the blonde state is Utah. The tie is probably a reference to the LDS. Don't know why she's blonde (and has slightly less curly hair) whereas the other states have black hair.

  • @Reallytallsocks
    @Reallytallsocks 4 роки тому +11

    The fact that we haven't had a podcast for over 4 months makes sense now that I see this video.

  • @superpokemonbros.9441
    @superpokemonbros.9441 2 роки тому +3

    1:26 I don't think I noticed before, but having sidenote text with a slash at the end of the segment was a reference to how HTML Tags work.
    Yes, I know you probably don't care but it's still cool

  • @MatthewBlackwell1015
    @MatthewBlackwell1015 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you for this! Definitely the best explanation in a non-legal-focused report of what SCOTUS actually ruled. I'm a non-lawyer SCOTUSBLOG follower and while their articles are very approachable for reporting mainly for other lawyers, they have a smaller reach than you do.

  • @johnholleran
    @johnholleran 4 роки тому +7

    4 minutes to learn that nothing has changed, and yet I still loved it

  • @y1tra872
    @y1tra872 3 роки тому +1

    I love how I dont live in America or have any connections to it yet I still watch these videos because of the grey cool explanation.

  • @trackmaniaIIDX
    @trackmaniaIIDX 4 роки тому +64

    Right when this court case was decided I was wondering about NaPoVoInterCo and if Grey would do a video on it

    • @macaroon_nuggets8008
      @macaroon_nuggets8008 4 роки тому +5

      He did.

    • @trackmaniaIIDX
      @trackmaniaIIDX 4 роки тому +2

      @@macaroon_nuggets8008 oh thanks for telling me

    • @bbgun061
      @bbgun061 4 роки тому +1

      NaPoVoInterCo is a horrible idea and goes against the fact that the USA is a republic, not a democracy.
      Recent events should make the dangers of mob rule painfully obvious.

    • @darkpixel1128
      @darkpixel1128 4 роки тому +3

      @@bbgun061 you can be both at the same time. besides, what even the point of a vote if barely anyone choice actually matters. Alos, in modern times people want a democracy, who cares what some long dead people wanted it to be?

    • @dasbubba841
      @dasbubba841 4 роки тому

      @@darkpixel1128 People desired segregation until the Federal Government abolished it. Your point is?

  • @trevorshaw-mumford2150
    @trevorshaw-mumford2150 4 роки тому +30

    I'd be interested to hear Grey's thoughts on the recent SC decision regarding Oklahoma...

    • @rogen8094
      @rogen8094 4 роки тому +3

      Agreed. I'm not sure exactly what it means tbh. I'm no legal expert, and the News is thoroughly unhelpful. Grey is a straight shooter.

    • @connorschultz380
      @connorschultz380 4 роки тому +1

      What happened?

    • @rogen8094
      @rogen8094 4 роки тому +11

      @@connorschultz380 Basically, the SCOTUS ruled that about half of the state of Oklahoma actually belongs to the American Indian tribes and NOT the state of Oklahoma. It had to do with some murder inside an Indian Reservation. But, the tricky thing is that they seemed to assert that the Federal gov't supersedes the Indian Nation(s). So, the murderer must be tried in federal court, not state court. Something like that. It's kinda confusing, so Grey should absolutely make a video about it.

    • @katlicks
      @katlicks 4 роки тому +2

      @@rogen8094 it was a serial child rapist that started the case.

    • @evelioguaperas
      @evelioguaperas 4 роки тому +5

      @@rogen8094 From what I know they gave jurisdiction over half of Oklahoma to the indian tribes but the land is still owned by the state. Meaning the state won't be able to prosecute crimes in that area commited by natives, still crazy if you ask me.

  • @maikotter9945
    @maikotter9945 3 роки тому +1

    In the Federal Republic of Germany this way is more common at Presidential Elections than in the US ones!
    The Federal Assembly (= Bundesversammlung) has from 840 to 1 338 members.
    The Federal Diet (= Deutscher Bundestag) sends all its members.
    Its uses a St. Lague (= Webster) System with is favoring the parties with fewer votes.
    The State Diets (= Landtage) send in total a equivalent number of delegates, choosen by each State Diet seperately.
    They use a d`Hondt system for this election, which is favoring the parties with more votes.
    The FRGs Presidential Election is usually held in the Imperial Diet Buidlung (= Reichstagsgebäude) in Berlin [/West].
    The voting is taken secretly.
    The voting contains from 1; 2 or 3 rounds.
    The absolute majority of all members is needed.
    abstaining from voting: 76 to 187
    invalid votes: 1 to 14
    votes for candidates nominated by a different party: not exactly known!
    This time there are 2 Federal Diet Elections between 2 Federal President elections.
    currents estimation, based on voting results
    CDU 397; SPD 330; GRÜ 174; AfD 166; FDP 135; CSU 93; FW 17; without caucus 7; BVB 1; SSW 1

  • @lyn_shallash
    @lyn_shallash 4 роки тому +9

    I love the conclusion:
    But for now absolutely nothing has changed

  • @pauld6967
    @pauld6967 4 роки тому +30

    Respectfully I must disagree with that closing statement that "absolutely nothing has changed."
    The ruling closed the door on those who hoped that the 32 states, who have made rules to ensure electors followed the will of the voters in their state, would have to rescind those rules/laws/governing guidance/statutes.
    I consider that a good thing.

    • @jamesguth5511
      @jamesguth5511 4 роки тому +6

      It’s more of the states can punish faithless electors. The elector still can be faithless in their official vote but the state can legally prosecute them .

    • @onekerri1
      @onekerri1 4 роки тому +4

      It seems one side wanted those rules gone, so as to be able to bribe them to be unfaithful. SHAMEFUL.

    • @aidanquiett668
      @aidanquiett668 4 роки тому +4

      @@onekerri1 The sad part of US politics is I cant tell which side that would actually be

    • @pauld6967
      @pauld6967 4 роки тому +6

      @@aidanquiett668 Greed, the lust for power and the ability to resist such temptations, to put the needs of others ahead of ones own person, taking responsibility for ones own actions and failures...these are all traits of being human.
      That is why it is important to judge every man and woman as individuals and not as a group.
      The governance of society is too serious, in my opinion, to be viewed like a sports competition where one roots for one team and boos the other.
      There a good Democrats who sincerely wish to have our country succeed and prosper, just as there are those whose only interest is personal wealth & power. The same is true of Republicans, Independents and politicians in general.
      It has always been thus and always will be. It is human nature. It is why we must pay attention and evaluate who we vote for each and every time.
      I could ramble on but I think I have made my viewpoint clear. 🙂

  • @minebrain03
    @minebrain03 4 роки тому +56

    Hello to my fellow people currently coping with the election.

    • @nenmaster5218
      @nenmaster5218 3 роки тому

      Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff,
      cause why not?
      Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)...
      Here:
      -Veritasium.
      -Its ok to be smart.
      -Hbomberguy.
      -Oversimplified.
      -Krosmo.
      -Viced Rhino.
      -Believe it or Not.
      -Redditor.
      -Michio Kaku.
      -Practical Engineering.
      -Neil Red.
      -Slevin Channel.
      -Magma Musen.

  • @angelantayhua3096
    @angelantayhua3096 4 роки тому +20

    Guys forget about The Democrat, Republican, and Green Party
    Let’s start the Grey Party

  • @MusicalMethuselah
    @MusicalMethuselah 4 роки тому +3

    At the end, it's a breakdown of the theme music that you used in a lot of your early videos! Very cool! Do mi sol, sol mi do, ti mi la sol....

  • @NateeB1
    @NateeB1 4 роки тому +2

    Keep us in the loop!! Very much appreciated

  • @DaniMartVTen
    @DaniMartVTen 4 роки тому +37

    America should come with a product disclaimer: may NOT contain progress as advertised!

    • @theclockworkcadaver7025
      @theclockworkcadaver7025 4 роки тому +9

      Progress isn't necessarily always a good thing

    • @TheSorrel
      @TheSorrel 4 роки тому +4

      America: Home of the Brave, Land of the Free
      Disclaimer: May not contain Bravery or Freedom.

    • @B3RyL
      @B3RyL 4 роки тому

      @@theclockworkcadaver7025 Subjectively it may not be, but objectively it always is. You may not agree with where the progress is going, but progress itself doesn't care, and the people who will come long after you're dead will wonder in disbelief at the things you once believed to be good and moral. You see, progress isn't meant for you, it's meant to push all of humanity forward, with or without your approval. And it will always push towards universal good, because the majority of people want their lives to be better. If the lives of people are getting worse, it's not progress, it's regress, and it will get corrected at some point in the future.

    • @OnTreader
      @OnTreader 4 роки тому +4

      @@B3RyL The progress you're talking about is nothing but the passage of time. Meaning it has nothing to do with humanity or anybody's lives or an imaginary "universal good" or relative opinions about what a "better life" means. You can easily go the way of the dinosaurs, time doesn't care.

  • @AxeSoul
    @AxeSoul 4 роки тому +77

    Since we’re all too poor to buy members we can just chat by sorting new
    Oh yeah, this is big brain time

    • @Atitkos
      @Atitkos 4 роки тому

      This may not be new as its 6 minutes old but you will be high as you get my like.

  • @hollym1111
    @hollym1111 4 роки тому +2

    I liked the HTML tags surrounding the side note. Clever. And I’m still a big fan of Wyoming buffalo.

  • @defensivekobra3873
    @defensivekobra3873 4 роки тому +25

    2:06 found a bee! i wonder were his friends are

    • @whoknows7968
      @whoknows7968 4 роки тому +3

      Murder Hornets: Gone, reduced to atoms.

    • @snowy_owl
      @snowy_owl 4 роки тому

      @@whoknows7968 The hardest choices require the strongest wills.

    • @whoknows7968
      @whoknows7968 4 роки тому

      @@snowy_owl Hornet: I don't know whats hard about beheading bees, but I'm happy to make that decision.

  • @dantenotavailable
    @dantenotavailable 4 роки тому +6

    3:09 ("but don't expect me to do it") - Which is actually a good thing. You don't want the supreme court making up rules that's not their job. SCOTUS has one real role and that is to decide which rule wins when two rules are contradictory. Here the decision was basically 1st Amendment vs anti-faithless elector laws and the 1A lost. Funnily enough NaPoVoInterCo came up in oral argument in a "we know this is coming" kind of way but i don't think either side said anything interesting.

  • @8stormy5
    @8stormy5 2 роки тому +4

    A "nothing burger" as it might be, it is useful in common law systems to affirm or reject old rulings to figure out where things stand today. If the last time a very serious but very situational question was asked was a long time ago, it's useful to make sure what the rules actually are today.

  • @johncruz9793
    @johncruz9793 4 роки тому +37

    I still intensely crave a "Top Sneaky" rubber stamp.

    • @haidenlotze7530
      @haidenlotze7530 4 роки тому +1

      You can print one with TPU filament on a FDM 3D Printer

    • @haidenlotze7530
      @haidenlotze7530 4 роки тому

      (may lowkey go sketch one up in FreeCAD or OnShape )

  • @silursmq5511
    @silursmq5511 4 роки тому +46

    Grey, where the frig is Reservations Part 1? It's been 7 months

    • @Veylon
      @Veylon 4 роки тому +3

      Seriously. Reservations are even topical right now.

    • @micahrobinson93
      @micahrobinson93 4 роки тому +2

      @@Veylon exactly why there is no video

    • @Ratchet4647
      @Ratchet4647 4 роки тому +2

      @@micahrobinson93
      You're right whenever something new happens with that whole section must be added, rewritten, or scrapped.

  • @emeralddragon2980
    @emeralddragon2980 3 роки тому +1

    "But for now, absolutely nothing has changed."
    Yeah, that sounds about right.

  • @JohnDoe-qb6hx
    @JohnDoe-qb6hx 4 роки тому +9

    I took Civics in school, this is not what I was taught about the US electoral system. p-(-.- ) I was taught Electors are to vote according to what the states populations wants, not the Electors political party. Now that beings said they are often one and the same, but there is a distinction.

    • @404Dannyboy
      @404Dannyboy 4 роки тому +3

      Both understandings are slightly wrong. Think of the electors like senators. They are voted in to represent their state but may cast their ballot how they see fit. Many states have rules regarding what the electors are allowed to vote, but these are all individual to the states.

    • @edgardaspilcueta738
      @edgardaspilcueta738 4 роки тому +1

      Why do we even still have electoral college after all. Can we just get rid of electoral college??

    • @supermanXL
      @supermanXL 4 роки тому +4

      @@edgardaspilcueta738 the ruling class thought regular people were too dumb to make decision like picking the US emperor so they set this thing up. People have more control on local and state elections than they do over who becomes president.

    • @mr.l8527
      @mr.l8527 4 роки тому +6

      @@supermanXLThe "ruling class" didn't think that the average voter was too dumb. They designed the government and how it works/officials are elected via an educated view on history.
      If you hand all of the keys to the majority, they're voices will be a tyranny to the minority.
      If you hand all of the keys to the minority, they're voices will be a tyranny to the majority.
      Pure Democracy has NEVER ended well.
      Pure Oligarchy doesn't either.
      The system was designed as a sort of in-between to (mostly) protect and empower both the majority and minority.
      Also, the government was designed to INTENTIONALLY be (mostly) dysfunctional. That's why it's segmented as it is and why there's so many checks and balances.
      This was done with the intention of limiting it's ability to exert control over the states and the citizenry.
      Big government never ends well either.
      It either collapses under it's own weight or it becomes tyrannical ... or both.
      It's actually pretty ingenious how it was all designed.
      Just functional enough to do what it needs to do but dysfunctional enough to limit it's growth and power.
      Fun Fact: The founders of the nation constantly argued over the role of government and considered it a "necessary evil".
      However they all agreed that the citizenry remain autonomous.

    • @giin97
      @giin97 4 роки тому +3

      @@supermanXL that's because it's the states that elect the president, not the people. It's the United States, not the United People. The national November opinion poll is just the widely agreed upon method. People forget we're a union of states, not one cohesive nation.

  • @purple-flowers
    @purple-flowers 4 роки тому +17

    0:12 I can't tell what flag that is on the angry lady outside looking through the window. Can anyone make it out?

    • @ericr.malice318
      @ericr.malice318 4 роки тому +2

      @Brandon Wing if it isn't look at the other flags IN the building. Then just take the last of the first 13 states that's not inside.

    • @murrolanz
      @murrolanz 3 роки тому +21

      It’s Rhode Island, which boycotted the constitutional convention and was the last of the original 13 to ratify the constitution

  • @ryanmcnair3451
    @ryanmcnair3451 4 роки тому +4

    LOVE your simpłe, but effective and entertaining stick figure animation that brings such fun to what would otherwise be fairly dry content. kudos to you, sir! Mérci

    • @nenmaster5218
      @nenmaster5218 3 роки тому

      Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff,
      cause why not?
      Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)...
      Here:
      -Veritasium.
      -Its ok to be smart.
      -Hbomberguy.
      -Oversimplified.
      -Krosmo.
      -Viced Rhino.
      -Believe it or Not.
      -Redditor.
      -Michio Kaku.
      -Practical Engineering.

  • @willmunoz1638
    @willmunoz1638 4 роки тому +13

    4:11
    Elector: W-wait, who's that random guy up there?!
    Supreme Court Justice: *completely disinterested in all things related to life* oh, that's just CGP Grey...he likes watching this chaos unfold.
    *deep sigh of meehhhh*
    NaPoVoInterCo, *please* get off my desk.

  • @larskap6
    @larskap6 4 роки тому +6

    He omits to say that it's actually a very important ruling for the NaPoVoInterCo. The compact would be much harder to implement if states can't “bind“ their electors.

  • @dstinnettmusic
    @dstinnettmusic 4 роки тому +7

    The Supreme Court reaffirming a case from the 19th century is pretty interesting. I tend to think that in say, 1990, the court would have made faithless electors illegal, but the court is more small c conservative now. They aren’t in a mood for big changes to the interpretation of the law.

    • @David-jt9nt
      @David-jt9nt 2 роки тому +3

      ya this comment did not age well

    • @eyallevin6302
      @eyallevin6302 2 роки тому +3

      @@David-jt9nt you can say that again

  • @Gpcas9
    @Gpcas9 4 роки тому +23

    Using premieres in combination with member only chat is kind of a strange thing.
    The advantage of a premere is , that you can get direct feedback from your viewers. So you take the hit on tracktion of all that users that click on the video and leave annoyed to forget that the clip is in thier subcription feed.
    But at the same time limiting the chat to members only, crushes this advantage and you alienate your premiere audience too.

  • @VxV631
    @VxV631 4 роки тому +21

    That's actually a really good supreme court decision. Letting the states do what they want about their own electors.

  • @BeaDSM
    @BeaDSM 4 роки тому +1

    But what about if someone just breaks the law enacted by their State legislature? Does their faithless vote count?

  • @jacksonskyline
    @jacksonskyline 4 роки тому +5

    There are so many Electoral College videos that there needs to be a playlist.

  • @ShroudedWolf51
    @ShroudedWolf51 4 роки тому +21

    "Let me guess, nothing actually changed."
    Yep. Called it.

  • @pmains
    @pmains 4 роки тому +1

    Long distance communication was not a factor mentioned in the Federalist Papers or the Constitutional Convention debates. As far as I can tell, this is a modern imagining of why early Americans *might* have created such a system.

  • @_mayuu2335
    @_mayuu2335 7 місяців тому +16

    OH its a nothing burger... could never figure out what the thumbnail is LOL

  • @2-dsynctium773
    @2-dsynctium773 4 роки тому +582

    I edited this comment so the replies wouldn't make any sense. :)

    • @ELEMENTLHERO
      @ELEMENTLHERO 4 роки тому +11

      30 now... still before...

    • @aspenpawarts9333
      @aspenpawarts9333 4 роки тому +33

      FBI having too wait 20 minutes, the fact it’s a premier, member only chat, slow chat, and more

    • @torioto
      @torioto 4 роки тому +5

      And over 300 likes

    • @Ryan50Ryan
      @Ryan50Ryan 4 роки тому +29

      The fact that it hasn't premiered may be why they disliked it.

    • @andrewcheng1948
      @andrewcheng1948 4 роки тому +1

      32

  • @pulsefel9210
    @pulsefel9210 2 роки тому +1

    what did change is we have states being public that they dont have to even obey their populous and making the college even stupider

  • @BreadIoftheGlutenIsles
    @BreadIoftheGlutenIsles 4 роки тому +51

    How to farm engagement: turn on members-only chat so non-members have to comment.

    • @mothiieeo
      @mothiieeo 4 роки тому +5

      we are all pawns in cgp grey's game

  • @BloodRider1914
    @BloodRider1914 4 роки тому +19

    This was simply one of the most fair major rulings I've seen in a while. A decision in the opposite direction would've set some bad precedents, and this ruling reaffirms states' rights over elections.

    • @Fourtytwo4242
      @Fourtytwo4242 4 роки тому +7

      The job of suprime court is to follow the rules set before nothing else. They do not care about parties, beliefs, racism, homophobia their job is to follow guide lines nothing else. That also why when a conservative was let in nothing has change, he still rules with the liberals
      They are the constitution and they make sure it stays that way. Making them the most fair and honest judges in the US.

    • @Capt.Slappy
      @Capt.Slappy 4 роки тому +13

      @@Fourtytwo4242 ... If you believe they are unbiased you are insane.

    • @Xatzimi
      @Xatzimi 4 роки тому +6

      @@Capt.Slappy Their job is to be unbiased. Whether or not that actually pans out... well, that's politics

    • @BloodRider1914
      @BloodRider1914 4 роки тому +7

      @@Capt.Slappy They each have different views on the constitution. But they are expected to have some respect to precedent and generally agreed principles

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 роки тому +2

      @@Fourtytwo4242 Reminds me of the Dredd Scott Case, the Plessy v. Fergusson case, and the Desegregation case. Yeah, "unbiased"..

  • @LeoYoshi54321
    @LeoYoshi54321 4 роки тому +9

    I love how done the Supreme Court looks with the states' BS.

  • @B_R_E_I_Z_H
    @B_R_E_I_Z_H 4 роки тому +6

    Why have a simple "everyone's vote is counted directly and whoever gets the most pieces of paper with their names on it wins" system, when you can have something so much funkier that allows for candidates to basically glitch their way to the presidency

    • @arturocevallossoto5203
      @arturocevallossoto5203 4 роки тому +4

      Mexico has the "piece of paper" system and is still riddled with angry reactions in the aftermath. Direct vote won't solve anything, IMO.

    • @mannedsoldier99
      @mannedsoldier99 4 роки тому +2

      @@arturocevallossoto5203 Exactly. I mean it's the populous central parts of mexico that decide everything.

    • @GodwynDi
      @GodwynDi 4 роки тому

      As the video explains, the system was developed when communication was much slower, as was travel. The government was also far less centalized and States wanted control over the process.

    • @lukestover2207
      @lukestover2207 4 роки тому +3

      @Billy Ray Hoscheit Smart man right here. If Direct Democracies were implemented, it essentially means that the most populous areas will have the most control. Thus, the rural sparse populations in the midwest can be ignored by most state elections, since all the candidates will have to do is focus his attention on winning the metropolitan county populations. Essentially, when the majority counts above all else, the minority suffers.

    • @Water64Rabbit
      @Water64Rabbit 4 роки тому

      @@lukestover2207 Exactly the situation in California. California should adopt a state electoral college.

  • @staceynainlab888
    @staceynainlab888 4 роки тому +6

    Media: this changes everything
    CGP Grey: this changes absolutely nothing

  • @Lorentari
    @Lorentari 4 роки тому +2

    Can we just take a moment to think about how utterly stupid the electoral college is in today's day and age?

    • @Bacony_Cakes
      @Bacony_Cakes 4 роки тому

      Why even have one?

    • @joshuahadley776
      @joshuahadley776 4 роки тому +1

      @@Bacony_Cakes Cause it prevents state California New York Texas Pennsylvania and Florida from deciding everything that happens in the country

    • @Quintinohthree
      @Quintinohthree 4 роки тому +1

      @@joshuahadley776 Which would be a massive improvement over the current setup in which just Pennsylvania and Florida decide.

  • @ian-roadto0subscribers564
    @ian-roadto0subscribers564 4 роки тому +52

    "can we have change in voting system?"
    "we have change in voting system at home"
    change in voting system at home:

    • @luzi6811
      @luzi6811 4 роки тому +1

      ah yes

    • @OnTreader
      @OnTreader 4 роки тому +1

      break up the two parties
      force publicizing of any donations or contributions toward campaigns

    • @dirichlettt
      @dirichlettt 4 роки тому +2

      @Michael Freed epic copypasta my dude

    • @OnTreader
      @OnTreader 4 роки тому

      @Michael Freed pretty antisemitic stuff there, bucko