The Sneaky Plan to Subvert the Electoral College for the Next Election

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  • @CGPGrey
    @CGPGrey  4 роки тому +2903

    An update, sort of: ua-cam.com/video/COmW6r23zas/v-deo.html

    • @codyjames52
      @codyjames52 4 роки тому +15

      Hey Grey, Coke or Pepsi?

    • @witr
      @witr 4 роки тому +10

      wow its nothing

    • @MainakMandalTheOnlyOne
      @MainakMandalTheOnlyOne 4 роки тому +5

      Umm revisiting this to go back to where it made me revisit this... Whatte loop

    • @3bydacreekside
      @3bydacreekside 4 роки тому +1

      @@witr Hey! I like his videos

    • @lagseeing8341
      @lagseeing8341 4 роки тому +4

      This sounds more like a power by a group of people. Why would a state look outside their borders to decide who to vote on, what happens in other states are absolutely none of their business.

  • @notmocka
    @notmocka 5 років тому +4788

    Things To Do Before Going Back In Time:
    -Consider paradoxical consequences of going back in time
    -Buying land
    -lunch

    • @jakx2ob
      @jakx2ob 5 років тому +103

      How does _before going back in time_ even work?
      That's why time traveling must be outlawed, grammar is complicated enough as is.

    • @johannes4123
      @johannes4123 5 років тому +54

      @@jakx2ob He said before GOING back in time, not ARRIVING back in time

    • @Krawurxus
      @Krawurxus 5 років тому +22

      Bring a smartphone to get a pic of yourself drinking with the founding fathers

    • @RoyalFusilier
      @RoyalFusilier 5 років тому +56

      Don't forget being a white man. If you don't do that step, then depending on where and when you land, things could get dicey fast.

    • @brotlowskyrgseg1018
      @brotlowskyrgseg1018 5 років тому +24

      - get the smallpox vaccine
      - don't be black

  • @collinshen3808
    @collinshen3808 4 роки тому +14138

    I feel like grey only represents everyone as a female stock figure so he can draw their icons of whatever they are representing on their skirts

    • @TheBioRules
      @TheBioRules 4 роки тому +1941

      "If it's good enough for sports it's good enough for skorts!"

    • @flurng
      @flurng 4 роки тому +1281

      Well, if you notice, all naval ships are referred to as female, and likewise, states tend to be represented as female as well, hence the skirts.

    • @happyfacefries
      @happyfacefries 4 роки тому +485

      What others have said before about countries using pronouns, but you don't think they aren't adorable? Those little pig tails!

    • @reasonnottheneed
      @reasonnottheneed 4 роки тому +87

      Tangential thought, does anybody still wear skirts these days? I'm not sure if I've ever seen someone wear one outside of a play or a wedding.

    • @happyfacefries
      @happyfacefries 4 роки тому +341

      @@reasonnottheneed are you serious??? Girls wear skirts all the time and not to just church. You've never heard of the maxi skirt or the cocktail dress??? What about mini skirts???

  • @alvarodiaz2221
    @alvarodiaz2221 4 роки тому +8658

    "do you even own land, bro?"
    Never felt so owned by people hundreds of years ago

    • @toby7161
      @toby7161 4 роки тому +35

      Same

    • @jamesdavis9036
      @jamesdavis9036 4 роки тому +81

      So by that logic, farmers are the only people who should be able to vote.
      Well, then and the other people who own land, but I'm not exactly sure what specifically those other people are called, aside from just "land owners".

    • @alvarodiaz2221
      @alvarodiaz2221 4 роки тому +167

      @@jamesdavis9036 owning land a.k.a. owning property can be used to measure the power and influence of a person, I would even say that is even more valuable than owning the same value in money since the value of a property is much more stable than fiat money.

    • @odisdracul
      @odisdracul 4 роки тому +85

      @@jamesdavis9036 Being that the 16th amendment didn't become law until 1913. The majority of tax payers, were land owners. Few non-land owners paid taxes.

    • @biggerchris20
      @biggerchris20 4 роки тому +3

      Really!?! Taxes, so called ownership of property, human rights "non whites", privacy laws, Dude you been owned since way before you was born.

  • @f-35alightningii79
    @f-35alightningii79 3 роки тому +3417

    I like how even Rhode Island laughed at CGP Grey’s concern for the people from outside of the convention.

    • @eifbkcn
      @eifbkcn 3 роки тому +166

      It's entirely inaccurate. The reason that Rhode Island didn't attend the convention was because the government there was populist and was run by the common people. They felt the convention was a scam by the rich to reform the government in a way that would safeguard the interests if the upper class, so they decided to boycott the convention.

    • @macaroon_nuggets8008
      @macaroon_nuggets8008 3 роки тому +29

      @@eifbkcn Wait, are you arguing _for_ populism?

    • @alexrogers777
      @alexrogers777 3 роки тому +15

      @@macaroon_nuggets8008 Sounds like it 👍

    • @homosapien5156
      @homosapien5156 3 роки тому +29

      @@macaroon_nuggets8008 Looks like he doesn't know what the term populism represents.

    • @dragoncatgaming5481
      @dragoncatgaming5481 3 роки тому +91

      I don't see him arguing for or against it here, simply clarifying facts. Nothing about his tone implies either opinions in favor of or against populism. Just that Rhode Island didn't attend the convention because they were populist. Also seemingly agreeing with the original commenter.

  • @jameswoods4134
    @jameswoods4134 5 років тому +8075

    As a land owning citizen, I reserve the right to win any argument by shaming the landless into silence, just as the Founding Fathers intended

    • @Phil9874
      @Phil9874 5 років тому +313

      neh, sir I also have land and I challenge you to a duel of wits.

    • @screenvy
      @screenvy 5 років тому +53

      Ah yes mob rule. Thanks James Woods

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun 5 років тому +177

      Wits? Nah, don't need those.
      Which of you has more LAND? That's the important question.

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 5 років тому +6

      As a no provider of shared lunches i reserve the right to shame food owners into silence. Just as the Founding Fathers intended. now back to work bitch, i need cheeretohs for my oprah and Bernie promised me $$$ if i voted for him

    • @Gee-xb7rt
      @Gee-xb7rt 5 років тому +34

      Do you own that land or does the bank? There is a difference. For most people its the latter.

  • @utkarsharyan
    @utkarsharyan 4 роки тому +5851

    The only difference between a fortress and a prison is who controls the gates and which way the guns are pointing.

  • @belicose9
    @belicose9 5 років тому +22939

    Hang on a second, Grey doesn’t own land?
    Unsubscribed.

    • @Ultra_DuDu
      @Ultra_DuDu 5 років тому +304

      At least not at the times of the Founding Fathers.

    • @netajithevar296
      @netajithevar296 5 років тому +209

      Peasants!

    • @LeeRothstein
      @LeeRothstein 5 років тому +163

      Grey, an American, lives in the UK where he's a university math prof.

    • @peksn
      @peksn 5 років тому +50

      filthy peasant

    • @sirBrouwer
      @sirBrouwer 5 років тому +188

      @@LeeRothstein since when did Grey become a math professor?
      He is a full time UA-cam and podcast content creator and before that he was a high school physics teacher.

  • @gaminwatch8203
    @gaminwatch8203 2 роки тому +768

    It's pretty interesting how the ideas of state loyalty have changed over time. A lot of people forget that the original 13 colonies did NOT get along like they do today. In the early days of the US, people felt more loyalty to their state usually compared to the nation, and the states were seen as pretty much separate entities from each other in many regards. That's why we have the Electoral College and House/Senate systems like that; while no one would think to treat each state unequally now, in the early days this was a real concern, so we had this system to change it.

    • @Backonos
      @Backonos Рік тому +24

      except people do want to treat the states unequally if you dont agree with them they think federal funding should be with heald or if you do agree with them extra federal funding.
      The extra funding tactic is being used.

    • @brushylake4606
      @brushylake4606 Рік тому

      "Like they do today..." You mean when lockdown states were hoping for increased deaths for people in Florida for not participating in the national panic?

  • @AlibifortheAfterlife
    @AlibifortheAfterlife 4 роки тому +3355

    "But not you, Puerto Rico. Come back when you're a state."
    Hey, at least Puerto Rico gets a mention. We don't even get brought up unless North Korea threatens us.

  • @himagainstill
    @himagainstill 5 років тому +1702

    Video: 6½ minutes
    Footnote: 43 minutes
    This is why we keep coming back.

    • @lidulkadut
      @lidulkadut 5 років тому +8

      43 minutes?

    • @narata1541
      @narata1541 5 років тому +12

      True. I've been going back to his older videos and reading the footnotes. It's so much! But I'm learning a lot more than with just the video.

    • @hwykng82
      @hwykng82 5 років тому +1

      I only happened to see the footnote in my recommended

    • @captainjules6033
      @captainjules6033 5 років тому +9

      I’ve been doing a lot of research on the Gallipoli Campaign because I’m a historian doing a paper on it. I’ve found books that have entire halves of pages dedicated to just footnotes. Grey gets it.

  • @hordamis5651
    @hordamis5651 4 роки тому +2632

    I love how the Supreme Court looks so bored with the states BS.

    • @LucarioDoT
      @LucarioDoT 4 роки тому +114

      That's mostly because it is

    • @jamesgo8550
      @jamesgo8550 4 роки тому +2

      @Brayan Velez why ?

    • @robertbrown6879
      @robertbrown6879 4 роки тому +1

      @Matt Horkan Tell the Democrat Party. And the Republican Party as well.

    • @r.henryjr.1533
      @r.henryjr.1533 4 роки тому

      Yes, that is the joke.

    • @luxborealis
      @luxborealis 4 роки тому +11

      Matt Horkan
      The problem is that you’re assuming that the NaPoVoCo would fail because it was not in the original intention of the Constitution. However, only three of the SCOTUS judges are originalists, the others are interpretationists. The case could very likely go to through unless some more judges die while the GOP still controls the Senate. The States have near-total freedom to dictate their own election laws, and at least on paper the states with representative or first past the post systems would not be disadvantaged by NaPoVoCo. The key issue is that the Republicans would be hugely disadvantaged by this since they almost never win the popular vote, but the GOP is not constitutionally protected; the US Constitution predates the parties and thus they are considered private citizen associations legally speaking. The Supreme Court cannot overtly act to protect the Republican Party from a Democratic federal government trying to enforce the popular vote unless the GOP can successfully argue it breaks their members’ constitutional rights as private citizens. Which ironically would force the Republicans to argue for the popular vote as a protected right on the state level.

  • @foolishpotatoes3015
    @foolishpotatoes3015 3 роки тому +7334

    I love how in all these political videos gray makes the Supreme Court some group of gods that just have to deal with the whole country being run by children in suits

    • @judgment5090
      @judgment5090 3 роки тому +610

      I mean... it’s not entirely inaccurate

    • @foolishpotatoes3015
      @foolishpotatoes3015 3 роки тому +171

      and that's really fricking sad

    • @MrBenMcLean
      @MrBenMcLean 3 роки тому +70

      He does that because up until late 2020, his side controlled the Supreme Court. Now they don't, so expect his representation of the Supreme Court to change in future

    • @foolishpotatoes3015
      @foolishpotatoes3015 3 роки тому +331

      no he does that because funny

    • @tilenzupancmusic2294
      @tilenzupancmusic2294 3 роки тому +574

      @@MrBenMcLean you do realize that CGP is British, and thus does not have a side in the USA elections, right?

  • @Skip6235
    @Skip6235 5 років тому +10941

    Official petition to change the official term “top secret” to “top sneaky”

    • @AnnikaOakinnA
      @AnnikaOakinnA 5 років тому +207

      top sneakret

    • @Gia1911Logous
      @Gia1911Logous 5 років тому +19

      Top Stalin

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 5 років тому +13

      Nancy Pelosi (D-Globalist, bureaucrat for life). Ämerican people cannot be trusted with the election.

    • @Skip6235
      @Skip6235 5 років тому +11

      @@katowo6521 . . .it's not. That's the joke.

    • @Sciller4
      @Sciller4 5 років тому +18

      They pulled a sneaky on the Electoral College.

  • @sethharrington1796
    @sethharrington1796 4 роки тому +2277

    "Do you even own land" they say to the person that steeped out of a glowing portal from the future.

    • @kveeder3224
      @kveeder3224 4 роки тому +52

      Not to mention CGP Grey is British.

    •  4 роки тому +89

      @@kveeder3224 Irish.
      (He's actually American, but he does have Irish citizenship)

    • @kveeder3224
      @kveeder3224 4 роки тому +12

      @ I thought he lived in London?

    •  4 роки тому +54

      @@kveeder3224 He does indeed live in London. But he's Irish-American

    • @uriargaman7241
      @uriargaman7241 4 роки тому +48

      @@kveeder3224 "Even though the Republic of Ireland is no longer a British dominion, it would not be treated as a foreign country for the purposes of British law."
      To make a long a story short, being an Irish citizen grants you British privileges.

  • @logic533
    @logic533 5 років тому +1500

    “The sneaky plan”
    *295k views*

    • @B4R0N.
      @B4R0N. 5 років тому +15

      And counting.

    • @jasonr.c.390
      @jasonr.c.390 5 років тому +3

      Well, he gave them the information, let’s see if they can do something about it

    • @TheDRAGONFLITE
      @TheDRAGONFLITE 5 років тому +17

      0.09% of the USA population

    • @ArgieGrit
      @ArgieGrit 5 років тому +8

      Grey is a confirmed narc. He did the same with the law we don't talk about

    • @medexamtoolscom
      @medexamtoolscom 5 років тому

      640k views.... your comment shows as "3 hours ago".

  • @LavenderSystem69
    @LavenderSystem69 3 роки тому +484

    If you go back to the past and the founding fathers ask if you even own land, always say yes. They literally have no way of verifying it

    • @robertsmith-cj6gl
      @robertsmith-cj6gl 3 роки тому +10

      Everything here is controlled by the crown. No you do not own your property. Nor do you own your own life

    • @Polopony20.
      @Polopony20. 3 роки тому +24

      Or scare them by pulling out a phone Even though you don't have connection you will have power. scare them...

  • @wrpro7495
    @wrpro7495 5 років тому +5060

    This is cool, but I can’t trust you since you don’t own land

    • @tuckercarlson3127
      @tuckercarlson3127 5 років тому +21

      he's a robot

    • @Unb3arablePain
      @Unb3arablePain 5 років тому +32

      As I've become an adult this phrase went from, "that's a pretty shitty way to think" to, "you can hardly keep your dorm clean, how can I expect you to help me next weekend?"

    • @prim16
      @prim16 5 років тому +54

      ​@This Guy Miko Oh my god. Can you actually stop trying to turn an unbiased and general video of a proposal for a reinterpreted voting system, into a direct political argument against Democrats, illegal immigrants, and even CGP Grey himself? You look ridiculous.

    • @takatamiyagawa5688
      @takatamiyagawa5688 5 років тому +5

      In addition to purchasing the cheapest piece of land he could find, perhaps he could have pointed out that electors will pledge to vote for a particular candidate for president, and be selected by popular vote per-state. Hence, the electors will function more like rubber stamps, and less like intelligent agents who will take the month after election day to evaluate the candidates for president themselves. Thus, the president is chosen by the people, just in a slightly disproportionate way.

    • @hcms2890
      @hcms2890 5 років тому +5

      @This Guy Miko You are wrong! the threat is not immigrants! the threat is the CCP. The chinese communist party is the worst and we should work to stop them not starving poor people looking for a better life

  • @edwardwilson8713
    @edwardwilson8713 4 роки тому +2194

    I love how he has Rhode Island outside when he travels back in time to the founding Father's meeting (Rhode Island was the only state to not participate btw)

    • @happyfacefries
      @happyfacefries 4 роки тому +70

      Omg, I didn't notice that!! He puts in so many clever things

    • @NagikunX
      @NagikunX 4 роки тому +10

      Good catch!

    • @onekerri1
      @onekerri1 4 роки тому +51

      There's a reason for that. Yes, it was the last of the 13 colonies to ratify the constitution because it wanted to be assured that the Bill of Rights would become part of the constitution. It made up for it though, because it was the first of the 13 colonies to renounce its allegiance to the british crown.

    • @jcskyknight2222
      @jcskyknight2222 4 роки тому +4

      @@onekerri1 "Made Up For It" - I still think they'd all be better off under our tea-drinking fist :P

    • @Nikapocalypse
      @Nikapocalypse 3 роки тому +18

      @@jcskyknight2222 Found The Spiffing Brit's alt account!

  • @cotramo6830
    @cotramo6830 4 роки тому +4471

    I love how *done* the Supreme Court is

    • @thomaswillard6267
      @thomaswillard6267 4 роки тому +419

      Congress: Loud and passionate people trying to get their way
      Senate: Established career politicians protecting their interests
      President: Frustrated by the lack of power given to the most powerful nan in the world
      Supreme Court: Nerds who are just fucking done with politicians and their bullshit

    • @Ace-uc5cj
      @Ace-uc5cj 4 роки тому +27

      Thomas Willard Senate is part of Congress tho, do you mean House of Representatives?

    • @jakecarpenter397
      @jakecarpenter397 4 роки тому +19

      Well it's not like they've been doing their job since any of the current justices have been appointed. They've been legislating since FDR, one of the primary problems in our current turmoil IMHO.

    • @Asdf-wf6en
      @Asdf-wf6en 4 роки тому +8

      I wonder if there is a way to subvert the Supreme Court too.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT 4 роки тому +13

      @@Asdf-wf6en Sure there is. President appoints Supreme court Judges. If too many of them die in the same term the surpreme court will then be presidents yes-men. It certainly helps if the previuos president didnt appoint any and left more spaces to fill for this president too!

  • @jamesticknor1134
    @jamesticknor1134 2 роки тому +334

    This inspired me to make the Electoral College my Political Science final paper. Wound up being ~19 pages. Fascinating video.

    • @josephwodarczyk977
      @josephwodarczyk977 2 роки тому +18

      That's awesome dude and I'm glad you found something that interested you so much!!!

  • @andrewprice7721
    @andrewprice7721 5 років тому +2869

    "The sneaky plan"
    Top 10 on trending
    No so sneaky anymore, eh Grey

    • @mervinhocsonart1921
      @mervinhocsonart1921 5 років тому +74

      As informative (and humorous) this video was, I wonder how many people would be angry at Grey for "outing" their master plan. :P

    • @vanguard616
      @vanguard616 5 років тому +8

      5th now

    • @andrewprice7721
      @andrewprice7721 5 років тому +1

      @@vanguard616 so sneaky

    • @andrewprice7721
      @andrewprice7721 5 років тому +38

      @Anthony Inciarrano I'm not uninformed. I just made a (lame) joke based off the tile and the popularity of the video.
      P.s. I'll gladly go read a book. Right after I finish reading the title

    • @pronumeral1446
      @pronumeral1446 5 років тому +10

      @@mervinhocsonart1921 He's not really outing it. It's already public information. And Grey himself thinks the Electoral College is crap (he made a previous video explaining why he thinks it's terrible).

  • @TheReaper569
    @TheReaper569 5 років тому +1644

    everytime in an argument from now on:
    "your point and argument sucks because you dont even own land"

    • @labrynianrebel
      @labrynianrebel 5 років тому +11

      Well, I actually do own land so HA! Q.E.D.

    • @pingpong1138
      @pingpong1138 5 років тому +18

      "I own land so my point is more valid" is like saying "I'm a specific minority so my point is more valid" today.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 5 років тому +5

      @@pingpong1138 but it is more valid, would you listen to a pilot or someone who write about being a pilot?

    • @dargondude2375
      @dargondude2375 5 років тому +21

      @@pingpong1138 Not really, minorities have had their points dismissed for generations. The land owners have historically been rich people who have an obsessive compulsions to control everything.

    • @Numbers_Game
      @Numbers_Game 5 років тому +12

      @@dargondude2375 and minorities deserve their point based on what? Most of them didn't even earn their right to vote and today are too incompetent to lead their own lives. You'll forgive me if I wouldn't trust them to find their way out of a paper bag, let alone make an educated decision when it comes to voting.

  • @BeastinlosersHD
    @BeastinlosersHD 4 роки тому +4361

    As a Texan, I love how the Texas character gets guns and a hat

    • @fakename287
      @fakename287 4 роки тому +160

      As it should be

    • @Redbikemaster
      @Redbikemaster 4 роки тому +95

      Agreed. As it should be.

    • @realbland
      @realbland 4 роки тому +60

      that's what Texas is

    • @oclone120
      @oclone120 4 роки тому +16

      Definitely as it should be

    • @JamieJRJames
      @JamieJRJames 4 роки тому +51

      And I am a fan, as a New Yorker, of how much of an asshole constitutional convention NY is. We are all assholes ;)

  • @zcmini000
    @zcmini000 4 роки тому +840

    I don't think this is explained in any of Grey's electoral college videos: the number of electoral college votes is equal to the number of seats in the house of representatives and the number of seats in the Senate. That's where the "+2" comes from.

    • @theelderelk5582
      @theelderelk5582 4 роки тому +26

      He's a shill pushing partial information

    • @jjpaq
      @jjpaq 3 роки тому +232

      @@theelderelk5582 Not sure you know what a shill is. And are you actually surprised that a 6.5 minute video isn't a comprehensive guide to the American electoral system?
      You'd get more traction pointing out specific inaccuracies, if they exist.

    • @theelderelk5582
      @theelderelk5582 3 роки тому +35

      @@jjpaq it doesn't take much to say "those extra two votes are the two senate seats each state gets", rather than making it out to be just randomly added for no reason.
      It would make a 6.5 min vid into a 6.6 min vid

    • @jjpaq
      @jjpaq 3 роки тому +154

      @@theelderelk5582 That's a critique (and a fair one), but not an inaccuracy per se. Doesn't make him a "shill", either.

    • @happyfacefries
      @happyfacefries 3 роки тому +21

      @@theelderelk5582 then go make your own video

  • @bryceshinohara9270
    @bryceshinohara9270 5 років тому +2896

    you saved yourself with those yellow and orange party colors

    • @professorfukyu744
      @professorfukyu744 5 років тому +243

      because it doesnt matter. the whole thing is now a silly mess anyhow. Anyone looking forward to 'American Civil War: Part 2'?

    • @cake.
      @cake. 5 років тому +157

      He always uses yellow and orange for party colors. He has been doing that for a long time now

    • @GyroCoder
      @GyroCoder 5 років тому +5

      @@professorfukyu744 It will be a very unique way of turning 200 million humans into paste.

    • @Adraria8
      @Adraria8 5 років тому +127

      Bryce Shinohara fucking yellowtards #orangepride

    • @rrteppo
      @rrteppo 5 років тому +65

      What do you mean? everyone knows the Democrats have been the ones pushing for it because they control California and New York the 2 most populus states in the nation.

  • @TheRisingDzn
    @TheRisingDzn 5 років тому +1480

    *Point 4 gets satisfied*
    "Execute Order 66"

    • @nicholasloremann4741
      @nicholasloremann4741 5 років тому +35

      It will be done my Lord

    • @CedarHunt
      @CedarHunt 5 років тому +27

      Article 1, section 10: *Uno reverse card*

    • @1nsaniel
      @1nsaniel 5 років тому

      i think this is the new revolution use the power of the law against itself

    • @nicholasloremann4741
      @nicholasloremann4741 5 років тому

      Daniel my Lord is that legal?

    • @Stratelier
      @Stratelier 5 років тому +20

      "The Electoral College will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the NPVIC has bypassed the College permanently. The last remnants of the Old Electorate have been swept away forever."
      "But that's impossible! How will the nation maintain presidential control without the bureaucracy?"
      "The People now have direct choice over their president. Fear will keep the local elections in line. Fear of the majority."

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws-- 5 років тому +702

    "Do you own land?", I will use this to win every argument from now on.

    • @ThatGirlWithTheCoffee
      @ThatGirlWithTheCoffee 5 років тому +5

      It's like the old Eddie Izzard sketch "The Cunning Use of Flags"

    • @andmicbro1
      @andmicbro1 5 років тому +6

      Hey, I can win this argument.

    • @xcw4934
      @xcw4934 5 років тому +9

      You get even more points if you also own slaves.

    • @Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer
      @Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer 5 років тому +5

      Are you shitting me? i can make my own land.

    • @Patmanduu
      @Patmanduu 5 років тому +7

      But if they DO own land you’re knackered.

  • @robbiestrong-morse730
    @robbiestrong-morse730 3 роки тому +530

    I like that each state has something to represent them. Guns for texas, cameras for California and Hollywood inside it, a flower necklace for Hawaii, and buffalo for Montana or Wyoming I can't tell.

  • @fernandobessa81
    @fernandobessa81 5 років тому +5709

    That's just directly voting for the president with extra steps.

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun 5 років тому +747

      Because it's way easier to get this done than to actually make it so the country directly votes for the president.

    • @homedepotindustrialfan936
      @homedepotindustrialfan936 5 років тому +19

      Fernando Bessa Damn I was going to say this

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto 5 років тому +84

      At which people may have started caring who are we voting for our state representatives thanks to Democrats going bonkers.

    • @daniel4647
      @daniel4647 5 років тому +292

      Yes... That the whole point, hence it being a "back door". This was explained in cartoon form in the simplest possible way just now, come on man.

    • @lordpiranha382
      @lordpiranha382 5 років тому +12

      Yes but also no
      It ultimately invalidates the electoral college by adding this amendment to the Constitution

  • @TheRibottoStudios
    @TheRibottoStudios 5 років тому +1149

    I didn't realize how sassy AND unimpressed stick figures could look but when Future Grey tried to talk to the baby states about the EC, Grey's animator managed to make stick figures look both completely unimpressed at something and sassy AT THE SAME TIME lol

    • @AR15ORIGINAL
      @AR15ORIGINAL 5 років тому +2

      What part of the video you talking about?

    • @quantum6637
      @quantum6637 5 років тому +17

      Ace Coordinator Mary
      He doesn’t animate his videos anymore. He does the scripts, research, and everything else. But he has an animator now. I think the first video with the animator was Brexit, Briefly.

    • @BoMwarriorVlog
      @BoMwarriorVlog 5 років тому +2

      Welcome to CGP Grey! 😃 Well educated, fun, and pretty fair in his presentations. 👍

    • @patternwhisperer4048
      @patternwhisperer4048 5 років тому +1

      Didn't he want to hire an animator once for his videos...? Im sure he put up a contest once for that. Did anyone ever win that?

  • @wamsang7818
    @wamsang7818 4 роки тому +6009

    States: "The people? You can't trust the people!"
    That aged well

    • @Poppipower
      @Poppipower 4 роки тому +507

      I mean yea, that was the whole point of a republic in the first place. Elected officials probably are more informed than the regular person, so we trust them to represent us

    • @NuggetOG
      @NuggetOG 4 роки тому +77

      ahem ahem Karens ahem.

    • @wamsang7818
      @wamsang7818 4 роки тому +398

      @@Poppipower Not like we can trust them either...

    • @Poppipower
      @Poppipower 4 роки тому +111

      Samuel Wang shit you right

    • @madcio
      @madcio 4 роки тому +50

      Problem is that "college electors" is included in "people".

  • @TheBluePhoenix008
    @TheBluePhoenix008 4 роки тому +762

    I like how the Supreme Court can snap and summon anyone they Desire.

  • @tinypenguinhk
    @tinypenguinhk 5 років тому +2135

    When I was a kid I thought the electoral college was a school teaching people how to vote

    • @mediamattersismycockholste562
      @mediamattersismycockholste562 5 років тому +58

      public education FAIL.

    • @trestany1
      @trestany1 5 років тому +22

      Believe or not...there actually are people who think this :D

    • @benjaminholcomb9478
      @benjaminholcomb9478 5 років тому +5

      Same

    • @adams565
      @adams565 5 років тому +37

      Sounds like a good idea.

    • @joshwhipkey9957
      @joshwhipkey9957 5 років тому +4

      Nope there a group of people who actually get to vote, while you're silly little vote means nothing

  • @Undeadspelldragon
    @Undeadspelldragon 5 років тому +1526

    "Do you even own land?"
    "No"
    -"well, what state do you live in??"
    -"...England"
    -"gtfo"

    • @darknight10000
      @darknight10000 5 років тому +18

      Doesn't Grey live in Ireland?

    • @jimkerman5675
      @jimkerman5675 5 років тому +12

      This is purely undemocratic
      USA more like Undemocratic States Of America

    • @calibvr
      @calibvr 5 років тому +17

      darknight10000 no he’s a traitor he has Irish citizenship but moved to Britain

    • @KanyeTheGayFish69
      @KanyeTheGayFish69 5 років тому +2

      Jim Kerman clearly you haven’t studied us history. It’s not that way anymore

    • @alexh2947
      @alexh2947 5 років тому +7

      @@calibvr how is he a traitor. In the EU he's allowed to do that. I think Ireland is a traitor because it left the United kingdom

  • @munchinion
    @munchinion 5 років тому +1843

    I think most people who oppose the electoral college are also frustrated by the fact that with a slight majority for one candidate in a given state, all electoral votes go toward that candidate. This makes the election extremely centralized around random “battleground states.” Also, this makes being a Republican in California or a democrat in Texas a futile prospect-what’s the point of even voting for your preferred non-state preferred candidate?

    • @stevenbass732
      @stevenbass732 5 років тому +265

      That's the beauty of the Electoral College, it requires a candidate to actually work for the win.

    • @King_George_VI
      @King_George_VI 5 років тому +211

      That’s why I strongly believe that a potentially better reform of the electoral college/vote is to go the way of Maine and Nebraska (if memory serves me right?) and allocate electoral votes proportionally based on the popular vote within the state. For example, let’s say in California the Democrat wins 60% of the vote and the Republican wins 40%. With California’s 55 electoral votes, the Democrat wins 33 electoral votes and the Republican wins 22.

    • @ninety_seven_97
      @ninety_seven_97 5 років тому +212

      @@King_George_VI This encourages gerrymandering even more and does nothing to solve any of the overarching problems. The Maine/Nebraska system is the exact same as the current state-wide winner takes all system but on a smaller scale. You're still going to have votes thrown out and states that dont matter at all politically, or perhaps just districts that don't matter politically. Instead of making everyone matter, or even just a few states matter, you're moving that to districts and consolidating electoral power within arbitrarily defined areas. Who cares about the folks in Ohio as a whole then? They'd only care about Ohio's battleground districts. Who would care about anyone in Alabama or Mississippi? They have no battleground districts at all. Maryland is a solid 10 Dem votes even with this system, despite percents not being 100-0.
      Maine/Nebraska solution is not the solution to our problem, and this is coming from someone who lives within one of these battleground districts (KY-06).
      Tl:dr; The maine/nebraska system on a large scale does nothing to fix the issue and even exacerbates it in certain areas

    • @darken2417
      @darken2417 5 років тому +57

      You forget that having it be a popular vote makes the Californian and Texan pointlessness problem even worse. its essentially the winner take all system everyone complains about when it comes to the electoral college. Ex: Candidate 1 gets 30% of vote. Candidate 2 gets 20% of vote. Candidate 3 gets 17% of vote. Candidates 4-7 get a collective 33% of the vote = Candidate 1 gets all the electoral college votes for that state. A state in which 70% of the state voted against the candidate and could all theoretically be of the other party.
      Look guy, if you want a system in which the smaller states get the proportional amount of power in government (meaning irrelevance) then abolish the republic and become an empire. Who knows you may even bring about a new era of peace and progress like Rome did. I'd be up for that but I highly doubt you would, your call. : p

    • @ninety_seven_97
      @ninety_seven_97 5 років тому +97

      @@darken2417 You realize there is also something called ranked choice voting correct? And popular vote would mean the state issue is not an issue anymore, so I have no idea what you're even talking about now.

  • @dylankornberg4892
    @dylankornberg4892 2 роки тому +92

    1:30 I just noticed that in the room are only 12 stares, with Rhode Island standing outside the window staring angrily, because Rhode Island was against the constitution and was the last to ratify it.
    Grey just goes crazy with background details like this.

  • @HairJordan
    @HairJordan 5 років тому +1170

    Came for the information, stayed for the argument between our founding fathers and modern time-traveling, non-land owning stick man

  • @soldatox3019
    @soldatox3019 5 років тому +888

    "Do you even own land?"
    I'm gonna use this every time I'm losing a debate

  • @nmikloiche
    @nmikloiche 4 роки тому +889

    Poll: Is Gray more obsessed with flags or the electoral college? Too bad there isn’t an official flag of the electoral college.

    • @shaunmcisaac782
      @shaunmcisaac782 4 роки тому +97

      There is. It's a white square with a picture of a middle finger being pointed at everyone that doesn't live in a "battleground state."

    • @asleep909
      @asleep909 4 роки тому +5

      @@shaunmcisaac782 you took my comment! FACTS!

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 4 роки тому +13

      I have a feeling the Electoral College Flag would be one of those peeing Calvin and Hobbes cartoons except Calvin would be peeing on an American voter while giving the Statue of Liberty the finger.

    • @novacentorium4943
      @novacentorium4943 4 роки тому

      Arthas Menethil lmao

    • @mucuspatty4649
      @mucuspatty4649 4 роки тому

      Ricardo Santos Is he a big Hillary fan? I don’t think he really publicly stated his political opinions.

  • @salum6690
    @salum6690 3 роки тому +117

    Just as an update for the Nevadans out there:
    This plan passed in Nevada's state congress but was ultimately vetoed by Governor Steve Sisolak. Just thought I'd let you know.

  • @DiogenesTheCynic.
    @DiogenesTheCynic. 5 років тому +3171

    “Do you own land?”
    “No”
    *BEGONE*

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 5 років тому +48

      Universal suffrage brought down western nations. Prove me wrong

    • @ekkehard8
      @ekkehard8 5 років тому +109

      @@TheBelrick
      You have the burden of proof. You have to provide an explanation for your view.

    • @jongyon7192p
      @jongyon7192p 5 років тому +18

      *PEASANT*

    • @bennyevans123
      @bennyevans123 5 років тому +53

      @@TheBelrick why does everyone who makes shitty arguments put the burden of proof on the person they are arguing with?

    • @RavemastaJ
      @RavemastaJ 5 років тому +5

      Funny how they used to own land when doing so today is impossible. I wonder if these guys making these new laws had anything to do with that?

  • @jlupus8804
    @jlupus8804 5 років тому +1453

    “Do you even own land?”
    “...No.”
    That hit deep.

    • @u2befake149
      @u2befake149 5 років тому +59

      Sir Mount not black people, or women, or indentured servants, or...

    • @amsb4dafunk406
      @amsb4dafunk406 5 років тому +22

      U2be Fake
      Look at you,,,with
      all of them hysterrikal knowings.
      You'd make tens of dollars on Jeopardy.

    • @voltagedrop5899
      @voltagedrop5899 5 років тому +23

      @@u2befake149 not one of those groups is mentally sound enough on average to deserve the privilege of voting and the founding fathers understood that. you should seriously consider taking your politically correct glasses off...

    • @Danny-xd1yh
      @Danny-xd1yh 5 років тому +9

      He lives in the UK of course he doesn’t own land

    • @jbt-qu6lm
      @jbt-qu6lm 5 років тому +32

      @@voltagedrop5899 So obviously you're one of the people who believe that women and nonwhites are like, neurologically inferior. There's no point arguing with you on this, given literally all of the science disagrees with you and you won't listen no matter what. But, I do have a question. Are you like, a bonehead? Maybe one of those conspiracy theorist types like Alex Jones? Perhaps a "Western Civilization" lover? Or even are you just a full-on raging neo-Nazi? I'm getting important statistics here about the reactionary lunatics who deny science here and every hyper-conservative with the intellectual maturity of a toddler is a vital data point. Please respond immediately

  • @michaellavy3269
    @michaellavy3269 5 років тому +2143

    2019: Do you even lift, bro?
    1787: Do you even own land, bro?

    • @drone_better7757
      @drone_better7757 5 років тому +34

      Then why would we listen to you? Goodbye.

    • @drone_better7757
      @drone_better7757 5 років тому +62

      4,000,000,000s B.C.: Do you even self-replicate, bro?

    • @jonatgan8546
      @jonatgan8546 5 років тому +5

      more like 2012

    • @leiajiang7877
      @leiajiang7877 5 років тому

      And slaves

    • @bilguunsuvargakhairkhan5533
      @bilguunsuvargakhairkhan5533 5 років тому +5

      Copy and paste of my reply to another comment:
      There is a certain idea for why that was. Basically, the reason why only landed citizens were allowed to vote/voice opinions is because they are the ones who were deemed to have a vested interest in the nation as a whole. Anyone without land would have no strings holding them back and leaving to a different nation after they have voted for a law/leader that would affect the nation far after they left. This is why certain people in the 1700s that live in areas where voting was more open really disliked college students for, since the vast majority of them would leave after influencing the politics of the place that would affect the place after they left. Long story short, people who own land, stay where their land is, and therefor can be trusted to look after the interests of the nation, as anything that is good for the nation, is good for their land.

  • @8393Robertrex
    @8393Robertrex 4 роки тому +300

    Dude.
    Do you know how fucking hard it is to make this stuff so easy to listen to? I love this channel. Please never give up on it

  • @DBE_TheZek
    @DBE_TheZek 4 роки тому +2046

    “Do you even own land?”
    “No-“
    “Goodbye”

    • @JohnDangcilGeekWere
      @JohnDangcilGeekWere 4 роки тому +11

      Which state was that that threw him back too?

    • @JohnDangcilGeekWere
      @JohnDangcilGeekWere 4 роки тому +36

      I thiiink it’s new york. Which feels extra fitting for all the trouble with the boat race and islands. 🤣

    • @richardarriaga6271
      @richardarriaga6271 4 роки тому +1

      @AI Martins In a decade, Texas might be join the club.

    • @Yahuaa
      @Yahuaa 3 роки тому +1

      This non land owner. Pshaw. "Pshaw," I say!

    • @PliskinYT
      @PliskinYT 2 роки тому

      @@JohnDangcilGeekWere New York

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron 5 років тому +675

    pfft imagine not owning land *nervous sweating*

    • @randomcatmeow1394
      @randomcatmeow1394 5 років тому +14

      I know right! *anxious laughter*

    • @nickblazer7658
      @nickblazer7658 5 років тому +2

      It's honestly just obscene he can make those claims without land! *loosens shirt-collar*

  • @leokarpys5722
    @leokarpys5722 5 років тому +1671

    “I used the electoral college to destroy the electoral college...”

    • @0Raik
      @0Raik 5 років тому +25

      Like using Epstein to kill Epstein? Got it!

    • @exploitativity
      @exploitativity 5 років тому +13

      "I used the state votes to destroy the state votes."

    • @brandonproductions8401
      @brandonproductions8401 5 років тому +4

      Raik Epstein didn’t kill himself

    • @birbies
      @birbies 5 років тому +4

      r/yourjokebutworse

    • @DezzyDerezzed
      @DezzyDerezzed 5 років тому +2

      @@birbies r/thisisnotreddit

  • @johngrave5554
    @johngrave5554 4 роки тому +82

    I love how NY is the state that is always shown as the most smug of them all LMAO.

    • @wilyriley_
      @wilyriley_ 3 роки тому +4

      because it is

    • @joshuahoffman1458
      @joshuahoffman1458 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, we're smug as hell.

    • @Meow-vi9jb
      @Meow-vi9jb 3 роки тому +5

      As a New Yorker, I can confirm we are all very smug.

    • @spark1400
      @spark1400 3 роки тому +1

      The accuracy is incredible

  • @kaiserslim2751
    @kaiserslim2751 5 років тому +847

    I just like how bored the Supreme Court stick figure looks throughout the whole thing.

    • @mantissaga4795
      @mantissaga4795 5 років тому +6

      It would actually be wilder than that. There won't just be US supreme court cases, there will be court cases in EVERY SINGLE one of the participating states because many of those state constitutions say troubling things like "the will of the people" (of that state). NPV goes directly against that and ignored the will fo the people of that state to, instead, bow to the will of NY and CA.

    • @Mollygan
      @Mollygan 5 років тому

      @@mantissaga4795 Why not just use direct ? That way the president is chosen by the people, and Conservatives will not be able to complain about CA and NY having to much influence, or Liberals about samaller states having too much influence compared to their population.

    • @itchyscientist0576
      @itchyscientist0576 5 років тому +1

      FRED ALFREDO this isn’t a concern to me ( a conservative ), of the five most populous states three of the five voted Republican, this is a good thing for the Republicans.

    • @itchyscientist0576
      @itchyscientist0576 5 років тому +1

      FRED ALFREDO this isn’t a concern to me ( a conservative ), of the five most populous states three of the five voted Republican, this is a good thing for the Republicans.

    • @Mollygan
      @Mollygan 5 років тому

      @@itchyscientist0576 I really don't care about Conservatives or Liberals, I just don't want candidates to only care (or at least pretend to care) abou a hand full of States, if the US had a direct vote every vote would count, not only swing States. Democrats would pay more attention to rural voters, and Republicans would pay more attention to the Big cities , not everyone is a farmer or a coal miner, and not everyone is a city Starbucks hipster.

  • @edisonmoreland4339
    @edisonmoreland4339 5 років тому +920

    The last 2% is the hardest to get, that’s why they leave it in the milk

    • @CasedLogic
      @CasedLogic 5 років тому +19

      *confused Rosa face*

    • @CGPGrey
      @CGPGrey  5 років тому +181

      I laughed more than I should have.

    • @ineverknew5331
      @ineverknew5331 5 років тому +5

      I don't get it.
      Help me lol I'm not American

    • @danielhan8995
      @danielhan8995 5 років тому +4

      @@ineverknew5331 Brooklyn 99

    • @danielhan8995
      @danielhan8995 5 років тому +1

      @@ineverknew5331 reference

  • @SSmith-di8xi
    @SSmith-di8xi 4 роки тому +427

    1:25 Noticed that Rhode Island is standing outside the room, looking pissed- because Rhode Island initially boycotted the drawing-up of the Constitution, and was the last of the thirteen states to sign it!

  • @hubbletrubble7875
    @hubbletrubble7875 4 роки тому +117

    The thing is, the constitution was thee 'oops we messed up last time let's try to fix this' document. We used to go by the Articles of Confederation where the states were about as united as the EU is.

    • @Aletta_Fox
      @Aletta_Fox 4 роки тому +6

      Peak libertarianism

    • @eliwhite5548
      @eliwhite5548 3 роки тому +23

      Less so. The constitution was basically the EU + some military and taxation. States still had their own militias and the federal government could only tax interstate trade.

    • @eifbkcn
      @eifbkcn 3 роки тому +3

      The constitution was also illegal, and essentially a coup.

    • @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq
      @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq 3 роки тому +2

      @@eifbkcn South Koreas independence IS also illegal, and most of the countries history was of coups against whats now North Korea.
      If the Victor doesn't get the spoils, then we can at least be sure they don't go to the former empire

    • @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq
      @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq 3 роки тому +2

      @@eifbkcn Brittain was barely legal according too global law of the old world, with the old French mostly determining their legitimacy and what land they have the right to occupy.
      Republics recognize no overlords, so Brittain got big and the French got small. And then we start spreading constitional democracy, which allowed each Republic to recognize each other's sovereignty and then to actually work together without having to worry about invasion from the others

  • @TherapyForNarhwals
    @TherapyForNarhwals 5 років тому +2605

    “Do you even own land?”
    “No...”
    “Then why would we listen to you, goodbye.”
    I choked on my sandwich

    • @Freekymoho
      @Freekymoho 5 років тому +95

      Poor grey being bullied by little girls wearing state-flag dresses

    • @Avrysatos
      @Avrysatos 5 років тому +11

      It's true though!

    • @cutchyacokov
      @cutchyacokov 5 років тому +53

      "Grey... when a Founding Father asks you if you are a landowner, you say YES!"

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun 5 років тому +2

      Why would you even eat while watching a CGP Grey video?
      You know you're going to choke.

    • @Joshuacowley
      @Joshuacowley 5 років тому +2

      Michael Foti Why are you eating a sandwich so early in the morning?

  • @xario2007
    @xario2007 4 роки тому +1397

    `"It survived for a thousand generations"? - Surely must be very short generations...

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes 4 роки тому +52

      I am the senate!

    • @andrewputnam2717
      @andrewputnam2717 4 роки тому +12

      Didn't Rome use a similar system

    • @MrGoatflakes
      @MrGoatflakes 4 роки тому +37

      It's a Star Wars meme

    • @timvanrijn8239
      @timvanrijn8239 4 роки тому +7

      @@andrewputnam2717 as the usa? No not at all

    • @DavidBarkland
      @DavidBarkland 4 роки тому +33

      Really depends on which time. Rome had a history of nearly 400 years _before_ becoming an empire. Throughout it's history it went from plutocratic oligarchy, to stratified democracy, to plutocratic democracy, to elected oligarchy, to not-so-elected stratified oligarchy, then for a while lots of people claimed to be in charge but no-one really was, then Ceasar said "you know what, military dictatorship sounds like a good idea".
      Of all those systems, I'd say the stratified democracy had _some_ similarities to the USA, such as regions appointing who is first-among-equals in the senate, the assembly being elected by the people, and the justice system not caring at all, but there are also significant differences, such as the senate being elected only by citizens of Rome (the city) itself, the votes being cast by-family rather than by-person, and votes being weighted by how much money the family had, and, of course, the first-among-equals of the senate was so unimportant that nobody cared who it was until Ceaser showed up and said "Military Dictatorship!"

  • @chuck2703
    @chuck2703 5 років тому +767

    I'd like to replace all AI with CGPs voice.

    • @pyroduck
      @pyroduck 5 років тому +1

      Luca god i want a gray-ps

    • @hamdy-man2237
      @hamdy-man2237 5 років тому

      Maybe it is 😉

    • @14OF12
      @14OF12 5 років тому

      No problem at All
      ua-cam.com/video/0sR1rU3gLzQ/v-deo.html

    • @Sellsor
      @Sellsor 5 років тому

      @@14OF12 Wow that is insane!

    • @carlosmarcus3286
      @carlosmarcus3286 5 років тому

      Do you want the singularity, Luca? Because that's how you get the singularity...

  • @benediktheim2614
    @benediktheim2614 4 роки тому +108

    Nevada is boring. Can't they count faster or something

    • @generalobi-wankenobi2758
      @generalobi-wankenobi2758 4 роки тому +26

      how to count votes like nevada:
      step 1: count one vote
      step 2: get bored, claim you'll finish tomorrow
      step 3: repeat step one the next day

  • @Angel-sh7mn
    @Angel-sh7mn 5 років тому +1227

    >Do you even own land?
    This should be the new "do you even lift, bro?"

    • @domino_201
      @domino_201 5 років тому +6

      YES

    • @justaguycalledjosh
      @justaguycalledjosh 5 років тому +87

      it's the old "do you even lift, bro?"

    • @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986
      @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 5 років тому +49

      It WAS the original “do you even lift?” Before lifting was a thing

    • @talitubi101
      @talitubi101 5 років тому +10

      In fact it is probably the old "do you even lift, bro?"

    • @lou2850
      @lou2850 5 років тому +1

      Yess we must make this a thing

  • @yelsahblah3270
    @yelsahblah3270 5 років тому +900

    "Do you even own land?"
    I laughed so hard.

    • @Tubeytime
      @Tubeytime 5 років тому +10

      It's the "Do you even lift, bro?" of the political world.

    • @darioinfini
      @darioinfini 5 років тому +5

      @@Tubeytime Do you even land, bro?

    • @darioinfini
      @darioinfini 5 років тому +5

      @@jebblottin92 The implication was that if you owned land you had a vested interest in what happened to it. You weren't just a hired hand that could get up and move on down the road to some other farm or business. You were part of the long term fabric of the community, you paid property taxes for the upkeep of that community (before an income tax), and so you were a person that was allotted the right to weigh in on what happened to that community and how it was run.
      Contrasting that to those who would invite foreigners into the country who have no vested interest other than free benefits, and giving them the right to vote. How do you think that would turn out?

    • @darioinfini
      @darioinfini 5 років тому +2

      Oh sorry, don't know Izzard so have no reference. Carry on then. ;)

    • @ethanlu2039
      @ethanlu2039 5 років тому +2

      What is this? An affable, civilised, conversation in my YT?

  • @masterofdoots5965
    @masterofdoots5965 4 роки тому +572

    5:26 Wyoming is just ON A BISON
    Edit: I never thought that a comment about a humanized state riding on a bison would be my most popular comment

    • @KaeYoss
      @KaeYoss 4 роки тому +27

      ...and begging the union for federal money to clean up the mess they caused when they actively encouraged terrorists to burn, loot, pillage, rape, and murder.

    • @captainrev4959
      @captainrev4959 4 роки тому +39

      @@KaeYossummmm

    • @djiboutinationalanthem5252
      @djiboutinationalanthem5252 4 роки тому +33

      @@KaeYoss funni bison

    • @Tr_Fast
      @Tr_Fast 4 роки тому +7

      And I think New York is holding a base ball bat

    • @dasy2k1
      @dasy2k1 4 роки тому +6

      @@Tr_Fast and Texas is carrying a pair of revolvers cowboy stye

  • @kazzar831
    @kazzar831 10 місяців тому +29

    I'm sad the spreadsheet video that came out with this is now locked behind membership when it originally wasn't. :(

  • @ReversePanda
    @ReversePanda 5 років тому +611

    I like how the stick figure representing Wyoming is riding a bison. That's exactly how we get around up here. Thanks, CGP👌

    • @thinhnonyt
      @thinhnonyt 5 років тому +3

      yes
      next Grey represents Australia riding a kangaroo

    • @FourOf92000
      @FourOf92000 5 років тому +2

      you don't exist

    • @archangel4670
      @archangel4670 5 років тому +1

      Wyoming doesn’t exist stupid

    • @thinhnonyt
      @thinhnonyt 5 років тому +1

      wait dang it

    • @ReversePanda
      @ReversePanda 5 років тому +2

      @@archangel4670 Are you out of your mind?? don't let them know that you know. The government doesn't want anyone to know that it's just an engram implanted into people's minds- -gets dragged off-

  • @Silamoth
    @Silamoth 5 років тому +1946

    “Where is the Electoral College? You used it two elections ago.”
    “I used the Electoral College to destroy the Electoral College.”

    • @JuliusCaminus
      @JuliusCaminus 5 років тому +112

      "In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire for a safe and secure society."

    • @drone_better7757
      @drone_better7757 5 років тому +27

      @@JuliusCaminus We truly do live in a society.

    • @matthewvanburen6415
      @matthewvanburen6415 5 років тому +9

      States forming a union without Federal approval is unconstitutional so...

    • @stanley1698
      @stanley1698 5 років тому +7

      I love democracy.

    • @blackpowderuser373
      @blackpowderuser373 5 років тому +9

      "It nearly... killed the votes. But the work is done. It always will be. I am... inevitable."

  • @rowboatcop4451
    @rowboatcop4451 3 роки тому +103

    I appreciate that Alaska has mittens

  • @boyhenry1
    @boyhenry1 5 років тому +913

    EC: You guys can vote however you want
    States: *However* however?
    EC, hesitant: yeah...

    • @Royal.2556
      @Royal.2556 5 років тому +13

      Loyal65 well yes but actually no

    • @TheFINNHERO
      @TheFINNHERO 5 років тому +1

      Yes but I’m hindsight no

    • @abstractnonsense3253
      @abstractnonsense3253 5 років тому

      What could go wrong?

    • @randomfullywonderful
      @randomfullywonderful 5 років тому

      EC: Shouldn't have done that.

    • @52BLADE1
      @52BLADE1 5 років тому +1

      @@abstractnonsense3253 RAMPANT VOTER FRAUD in POPULAR THE VOTE.

  • @jaredvargas5785
    @jaredvargas5785 5 років тому +693

    I still can't believe how perfectly you've captured a smug expression for the stick figures.

    • @soupytho
      @soupytho 5 років тому +2

      You mean his animator ...

    • @bruhmoment7546
      @bruhmoment7546 5 років тому +2

      @@soupytho He animates his own videos.

    • @IlIIlIIIIIlBrianSt0rm
      @IlIIlIIIIIlBrianSt0rm 5 років тому +3

      @@soupytho He makes all his own videos. He even made a video on why he doesn't want to hire animators or researchers.

    • @Sminelo
      @Sminelo 5 років тому +5

      He works with animators, as he mentions in Cortex episode 41.

    • @Sminelo
      @Sminelo 5 років тому +6

      He did hire animators, he had public tryouts and mentions his current ones use After Effects in Cortex episode 41.

  • @ElDavido023
    @ElDavido023 5 років тому +2807

    Thanos: "I used the Electoral College to Destroy the Electoral College"

    • @kinga6347
      @kinga6347 5 років тому +76

      *snap*

    • @AnnmusPnda
      @AnnmusPnda 5 років тому +19

      I was about to comment that lol

    • @CGPGrey
      @CGPGrey  5 років тому +455

      I wish I had thought of that.

    • @brandong7675
      @brandong7675 5 років тому +18

      Gone reduced to atoms.

    • @haflife2486
      @haflife2486 5 років тому +25

      @Dadsplains

  • @Writer_Productions_Map
    @Writer_Productions_Map Рік тому +27

    =The Current NaPoVoInterCo Status=
    Number of states that adopted: 15 + D.C.
    Number of states that are pending: 3 (Michigan, Pennsylvania & Texas)
    Number of votes in the Electoral College: 195
    Percentage of votes in the Electoral College: 72.2%
    Number of votes in the Electoral College IF the pending adoptions are passed: 269
    Percentage of votes in the Electoral College IF the pending adoptions are passed: 99,7% (approximately)

  • @nikolay4101-s7r
    @nikolay4101-s7r 5 років тому +248

    I was gonna complain how the states only hold 2 colours of boxes, almost as if they only have only 2 options
    Ah, wait

    • @lostbutfreesoul
      @lostbutfreesoul 5 років тому +2

      If the Supreme Court rules against California, please feel free to lodge an official complaint that your name is not on the Ballot... assuming you are native born and over 35 years of age.
      Lets see if we can force more choices then 2!

    • @ThirskFrostbane
      @ThirskFrostbane 5 років тому +12

      @@lostbutfreesoul Having more names on the ballot doesn't matter unless we remove the first past the post voting system.

    • @Ad3tr
      @Ad3tr 5 років тому

      @@IlIlllIllIlIIIll Would this dumb compact apply?

    • @meKevinWalsh
      @meKevinWalsh 5 років тому

      Maine has a choice because they have Ranked Choice Voting.

    • @Ad3tr
      @Ad3tr 5 років тому

      @@IlIlllIllIlIIIll I mean if there is ranked choice and the person with the most second choices wins, would the states have to consider that to be the most popular candidate and direct their votes to it?

  • @MonteCreations
    @MonteCreations 5 років тому +532

    Past State: "Do you even LIVE in america?"
    CGPGrey: "no I live in the UK..."
    Past State: "He's a red coat!"
    CGP Grey: "No wait, the countries are totally cool now-"
    *Shove through time portal*

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 5 років тому +5

      I can think of better places to flush communist bullsheet down. Thank the founding fathers for their infallible wisdom to have created this check.
      By the way do you think Op (e.g. CPG) missed out on his own joke, about the United States NOT being a Democracy? (i.e. Mob mentality rules?) 'Cause this is what's he pleading for. The fuxxking hypotwit. One meerly has to wonder if the poles reversed, and dear old Killary had been appointed as the President. Under these conditions. Do you suppose CPG would still have made this Video, and or the tiresome arguments theirin?

    • @raney150
      @raney150 5 років тому +15

      @@Ichijoe2112 the US IS a democracy. It just isn't a direct democracy. Democracies and republics are not mutually exclusive.

    • @jetison333
      @jetison333 5 років тому +23

      @@Ichijoe2112 well considering he was against the electoral college even before the 2016 election, he probably would still be making this video. Although, would you still like the college if Hillary would have been elected?

    • @skysthelimitvideos
      @skysthelimitvideos 5 років тому +2

      Ichijoe2112 He’s been against the electoral college long before Trump he has videos about it dating back to like 2011.

    • @grthwllms
      @grthwllms 5 років тому

      @@Ichijoe2112 God I love how upset you are.

  • @TheTeddyIsALiar
    @TheTeddyIsALiar 5 років тому +562

    So fun note about the "do you even own land" thing is that when the constitution was written really the only major tax was property tax, no income tax yet, so if you didn't own land you didn't really pay taxes and thus you shouldn't get a vote since the founders were all about the whole taxation going with representation thing. Now it's not relevant because we have so many new taxes.

    • @spyder666
      @spyder666 5 років тому +28

      Prefaced with, "i dont think they should but" if Taxation is the requisite for representation (and why not, it was the basis for the founding of the country after all), then anyone that has bought something off the shelf in America (and thus paid some form of Tax) should get a vote of some kind?
      Just a thought.

    • @phsteven3686
      @phsteven3686 5 років тому +27

      Mark Davison I would say it is because that random person buying a thing in America was not forced to buy it from America. The issue that came from The Colonies being taxed by the British is that the British forced them to buy the things that were taxed only from Britain thereby forcing The Colonies to pay a tax that they may not have had to pay had they been allowed to look elsewhere. That is just my two cents on the matter.

    • @_FamousQuotations
      @_FamousQuotations 5 років тому +2

      So fun video clip about the "do you even own land" thing is that it's now on my channel and it's a loopable video (please give me watchtime kthx) ua-cam.com/video/9QPSOy4g_cg/v-deo.html

    • @aidanquiett668
      @aidanquiett668 5 років тому +1

      Neat

    • @BlissBatch
      @BlissBatch 5 років тому +14

      I know they favored "no taxation without representation," but not getting a vote without paying taxes is "no representation without taxation." Were the founders also about that? There's a big difference between "no rum without water," and "no water without rum."

  • @rangertalksdogsgames7996
    @rangertalksdogsgames7996 3 роки тому +28

    I love the one state just yelling "How many states are in the future?!"

  • @berkkarsi
    @berkkarsi 5 років тому +368

    Guess it's not so "sneaky" anymore after this video.

    • @gmaninatrashcan7144
      @gmaninatrashcan7144 5 років тому +15

      There's a lot of conservative commentators who have talked about it on multiple occasions.

    • @RyuuTenno
      @RyuuTenno 5 років тому +13

      Honestly it hasn't been all that sneaky for a while. Keeps popping up in various news feeds everywhere

    • @DeepFriedBeans23819
      @DeepFriedBeans23819 5 років тому +8

      It's really not sneaky, it been talked about for some time across the board. It's likely that it will gain little traction. But it will level the playing field, Odessa Texas won't be able to decide what flavours of Juul are regulated in Rochester New York. That's about all this will accomplish because it doesn't really establish that states will actually change the way they vote.

    • @RyuuTenno
      @RyuuTenno 5 років тому +4

      @@DeepFriedBeans23819 if there's a state regulating things going on in another state, then we've got bigger problems than the electoral college.
      The Constitution establishes various non interference policies, to prevent that.
      And I'm sure it's an example that you brought up, but, nonetheless, I know it can occur between states.

    • @DeepFriedBeans23819
      @DeepFriedBeans23819 5 років тому +2

      @@RyuuTenno the point is that this type of "state alliance" kind of voting is that it really doesn't do anything

  • @natev7870
    @natev7870 5 років тому +231

    Why does Wyoming get to bring its pet bison into the Supreme Court?

    • @waterdrinkingexpert6797
      @waterdrinkingexpert6797 5 років тому +22

      Nathaniel Vitale cuz it’s Wyoming, it gets to do whatever the fuck it wants

    • @joshwhipkey9957
      @joshwhipkey9957 5 років тому +9

      It that or there inbreed cousin, and the bison is better behaved

    • @meowmeowmoogabenrules4854
      @meowmeowmoogabenrules4854 5 років тому +5

      If Wyoming gets a bison I say Colorado can bring a bison made of weed

    • @gorrillawarfair
      @gorrillawarfair 5 років тому +14

      Because that bison is 20% of wyomings population.

    • @LadyViolet1
      @LadyViolet1 5 років тому +5

      They don't have enough people, so they bring bison.

  • @jeffreydover
    @jeffreydover 5 років тому +400

    I love how Texas and Alaska had accessories on their figure.

    • @jeffreydover
      @jeffreydover 5 років тому +10

      Also California is holding a camera and the American figure has a pistol

    • @TheRealHelvetica
      @TheRealHelvetica 5 років тому +4

      At least for Texas, she gets to be different because she was her own nation at one point.
      If you live in Britain be sure to visit the old Texan embassy.

    • @mimimarcus
      @mimimarcus 5 років тому +1

      @Alicia en el Pais de las Maravillas Ikr. Texans have a way to make themselves sound "special."

  • @LeagusDaemon
    @LeagusDaemon 2 роки тому +21

    "Do you even own land?"
    "Yes, glad you asked. I actually own several NFTs for regions of the moon, Mars and asteroids orbiting our solar system."
    "A... what?"
    "NFTs; non-fungible tokens. It's basically a way to plant a flag on the thing you want, but without ever actually going there, and without anybody recognizing your ownership."
    "Sooo... you don't, own land... ?"
    "No :("

  • @dtrippsbold7931
    @dtrippsbold7931 5 років тому +529

    Grey doesn’t own land? Next thing you’re gonna tell me is he doesn’t own a horse lol

    • @wholeNwon
      @wholeNwon 5 років тому +1

      I'm sure you understand the reference.

    • @ARavingLobster
      @ARavingLobster 5 років тому +3

      @@wholeNwon *WOOSH*

    • @timobatana6705
      @timobatana6705 5 років тому +1

      @@ARavingLobster nailed it bro. I am proud.

    • @falleithani5411
      @falleithani5411 5 років тому

      ​@@wholeNwon I'm sure you reference the understanding.

    • @Aikman94
      @Aikman94 5 років тому

      Free white male landowner?

  • @lachlankeddie7
    @lachlankeddie7 5 років тому +236

    "Did you forget about that? Don't worry, I got carried away..."
    You and your entire channel nicely summed up there..

  • @janroodbol5055
    @janroodbol5055 5 років тому +484

    I like how everybody only cares for Grey not owning land.

    • @bilguunsuvargakhairkhan5533
      @bilguunsuvargakhairkhan5533 5 років тому +35

      There is a certain idea for why that was. Basically, the reason why only landed citizens were allowed to vote/voice opinions is because they are the ones who were deemed to have a vested interest in the nation as a whole. Anyone without land would have no strings holding them back and leaving to a different nation after they have voted for a law/leader that would affect the nation far after they left. This is why certain people in the 1700s that live in areas where voting was more open really disliked college students for, since the vast majority of them would leave after influencing the politics of the place that would affect the place after they left. Long story short, people who own land, stay where their land is, and therefor can be trusted to look after the interests of the nation, as anything that is good for the nation, is good for their land.

    • @guysome7469
      @guysome7469 5 років тому +12

      @@bilguunsuvargakhairkhan5533 Here comes the insidious part: remember the whole "women can vote" thing? It was all just a facade. The thing is, not only owners of land, but also owners of businesses could vote, which means that only people with a stake in the country's economy could vote. But then feminism comes along, sneakily pushing not for women's rights, but for the fact that everyone, not just people who have an actual interest in voting and a stake in the economy, to vote. If I was given the ability to revoke that change and go back to how it was, I would do so in a heartbeat, even though I wouldn't be able to vote either.
      Skip a couple decades and now the US is basically allowing illegal aliens and the dead to vote democrat, and emigration from blue states like commiefornia is turning the red states purple.
      The current democracy in the states is a farce, Trump wasn't supposed to win in 2016, and dems and big corporations have been doing everything in their power to never allow another non-dem candidate to win.
      TLDR everything is fucked and you are too late to stop any of it.

    • @bilguunsuvargakhairkhan5533
      @bilguunsuvargakhairkhan5533 5 років тому +10

      @@guysome7469 Well now I want to clarify that by no means do I endorse xenophobia, conspiracy theories, racism, sexism, and classism by my comment, I was simply trying to explain the reasoning people in the 1700s used to create their voter rights laws.

    • @tarvoc746
      @tarvoc746 5 років тому +3

      @@guysome7469 I bet if you could watch your landlord do your wife, you'd do so too in a heartbeat.

    • @urstaxfetish1206
      @urstaxfetish1206 4 роки тому +5

      @@guysome7469 All men had a right to vote because of the Draft system... not because of Feminism...

  • @chollettgarrett
    @chollettgarrett 9 місяців тому +27

    We also wouldn’t notice this in effect if the Electoral College winner also wins the popular vote

  • @eggmon420
    @eggmon420 4 роки тому +1659

    I love the animation of Grey just getting bullied by a bunch of little girls.

    • @6sixFace
      @6sixFace 4 роки тому +105

      I dont think you meant it that way, but man this reads weird.

    • @marshalljarnagin9370
      @marshalljarnagin9370 4 роки тому +44

      And he had a robotic arm.

    • @Zephyrs009
      @Zephyrs009 4 роки тому +25

      You want dominant Lolis I see, weirdo

    • @eggmon420
      @eggmon420 4 роки тому +64

      @@Zephyrs009 EW I DIDN’T MEAN IT LIKE THAT I SWEARRRR.

    • @Zephyrs009
      @Zephyrs009 4 роки тому +38

      @@eggmon420 silence we all know you want angry little girls to dominate yoy

  • @philippierdomenico7670
    @philippierdomenico7670 5 років тому +480

    Watched this like 5 times and just noticed Rhode Island peeking into the Constitutional Convention from outside.....

    • @iknowihaveanincrediblysmal6103
      @iknowihaveanincrediblysmal6103 4 роки тому +7

      Philip Pierdomenico yeah saw it too... why tho?

    • @Texasp12
      @Texasp12 4 роки тому +17

      @@iknowihaveanincrediblysmal6103 they weren't there at the time.

    • @xcyzvvv2346
      @xcyzvvv2346 4 роки тому +32

      Rhode Island didnt send any delegates to the Constitutional Convention

    • @lordz19
      @lordz19 4 роки тому +3

      As a Rhode Island I find it as my job to inform you. Rhode Island did not want to sign due to the fact that they would lose power that they have gained from the Constitution (that didn’t work) and because of they being so small, they would not have as much power as the other states.

    • @Texasp12
      @Texasp12 4 роки тому

      @@Tr4cK17 hahaha

  • @votekyle3000
    @votekyle3000 5 років тому +564

    I’d like to argue that Ms. Arizona also gets a pair of revolvers

    • @BinaryHedgehog1
      @BinaryHedgehog1 5 років тому +11

      And cowboy hat. It is where Tombstone is.

    • @liamgriffin218
      @liamgriffin218 5 років тому +29

      votekyle3000 Arizona Ranger with a big iron on her hip

    • @jamesmnguyen
      @jamesmnguyen 5 років тому

      Don't forget nunchucks

    • @StreamInfinity
      @StreamInfinity 5 років тому

      I’m fine with having revolvers.

    • @JackKnapp2
      @JackKnapp2 5 років тому +3

      Ms. Texas wouldn't clear leather before a bullet fairly ripped

  • @RaidsEpicly
    @RaidsEpicly 3 роки тому +81

    There might be more to this constitutionally, but it seems pretty clearly legit: "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors" Like they could be having a hot dog eating contest to determine who gets to pick elector appointment

    • @quantumblauthor7300
      @quantumblauthor7300 3 роки тому +5

      Game of charades or a karaoke competition

    • @AKsLetsPlays
      @AKsLetsPlays 2 роки тому +2

      Matt Stonie for president!

    • @tz8785
      @tz8785 2 роки тому +2

      The state constitutions might have something to say about that as well.

    • @GuiSmith
      @GuiSmith Рік тому

      @@tz8785 many do, but a majority just go with retired members of the winning party by tradition and political ease. It’s so that there’s less chance of faithless electors (who also are supposed to be part of this system too, but kind of aren’t these days and might receive some legal and party spite even when there’s no laws against them, but that basically means independents and third parties rarely if ever get electors even in proportional situations and makes an independent win quite unlikely).

  • @__Math__
    @__Math__ 5 років тому +268

    "Did you think this compromisetitution was for direct democracy? LOL" - 😂

    • @dariendark7263
      @dariendark7263 5 років тому +27

      Hell. A direct democracy would be a nightmare. No politician would have any incentive to care about rural areas and you have farmers strikes every couple of years due to their worsening situation.

    • @willsaleem7317
      @willsaleem7317 5 років тому +9

      @@dariendark7263 No presidential candidate already cares about farmers all the electoral college does is make everybody focus on the rust belt

    • @Kyle496
      @Kyle496 5 років тому +4

      @@dariendark7263
      The farmers are already being bent over and taken by the large Agri business.
      You realize most farmland is corporate owned now and it's continuing to get a larger share of that industry yearly? Nearly all the money Trump allocated to farmers due the disaster of a trade war he started went to large Agri companies, not mom and pop farmers like we (Americans) still believe run said farms.
      Almost all sectors of the economy are being sucked up and centralized into 2 or 3 companies, farmers included.

    • @Monochromicornicopia
      @Monochromicornicopia 5 років тому +8

      @@dariendark7263 The location of a citizen is irrelevant. Rural votes shouldn't count more than urban votes.

    • @enthargaming9700
      @enthargaming9700 5 років тому +1

      Constitutional republic

  • @Loreofw0rlds
    @Loreofw0rlds 5 років тому +413

    Of course Wyoming Charges in with a bison.
    Every Wyomingite has a bison mount.
    Mine has battle armor.

    • @Jennifer__T
      @Jennifer__T 5 років тому +23

      I know this is sarcasm...
      (whispers)...but I want it to be true...

    • @koboldparty4708
      @koboldparty4708 5 років тому +29

      Ah, so you paid for the Bison Armor DLC, i see.

    • @Beowulf_DW
      @Beowulf_DW 5 років тому +5

      @@koboldparty4708 I heard it was just cosmetic, though.

    • @hanamizuno0625
      @hanamizuno0625 5 років тому +1

      Whats his name

    • @spaceforcememes8104
      @spaceforcememes8104 5 років тому +10

      Same for us Texans, everyone is required to tote around two Colt Peacemakers on their belt at all times or else get deported to Austin.

  • @jdorozco90
    @jdorozco90 5 років тому +289

    Love how Rhode Island is mad getting left out while NC finally ratifies.

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 5 років тому +4

      1. Import easily manipulated non-Americans, both legally and illegally
      2. Control the MSM
      3. Oops we forgot the Social media in 2016. Fixed: Control the Social media
      4. Tell the people who to vote for. Elections are now selections

    • @jorceshaman
      @jorceshaman 5 років тому +10

      @@TheBelrick
      Illegal immigrants can't vote for president. People with green cards can't vote for president. You MUST be a citizen. Your plan would immediately fail.

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 5 років тому +1

      @@jorceshaman No voter ID required. Good job on ignoring that you DNC hack.
      "In a stunning ruling, the Supreme Court of the United States struck down an Arizona law requiring voters to present citizenship proof to register in state and federal elections."

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 5 років тому +1

      @@jorceshaman also why do you ignore the fact that the MSM is a arm of the DNC? That Social media are banning and censoring conservative political groups. never left wing
      Oh and lest we forget. Obamas IRS controversy.

    • @deoxix
      @deoxix 5 років тому +1

      @@TheBelrick What a bizarre you live in that you need to import non-americans to control the vote like most of the population isn't already lobotomized to vote like they tell them to in function of their owen personal fears and biases. Fox news has been doing this for decades. (www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/8/16263710/fox-news-presidential-vote-study )

  • @KaoticReach1999
    @KaoticReach1999 4 роки тому +77

    "You can't trust the people!"
    How can a statement be so true and yet so brave

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 2 роки тому +6

      People really like direct democracy until they realize that centrism has gravity and voting in a plurality voting system means your vote is a coin toss.

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Рік тому

      it isn't...? its an example of what garbage people the founding fathers were.

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Рік тому +2

      @@baronvonbeandip America is currently a plurality voting system

  • @roddydykes7053
    @roddydykes7053 5 років тому +344

    1776 burn that still holds up today:
    “Do you even own land?”

    • @fancy_pants8889
      @fancy_pants8889 4 роки тому +9

      Uh thats not 1776 pal. Thats the Constitutional convention in 1787. Thats where they singed the constitution. 1776 was where they signed the Declaration of independence.

    • @michaelweiske702
      @michaelweiske702 4 роки тому +15

      @@fancy_pants8889 found the party animal.

    • @nurlindafsihotang49
      @nurlindafsihotang49 4 роки тому +2

      Yay, capitalism...am i right?😂😂😂
      This just proves what dumbassery most "mayflower" US immigrants was. They literally runs from royal servitude and capitalist oppression in the old world just to esthablished the same nasty system in america

    • @fancy_pants8889
      @fancy_pants8889 4 роки тому +6

      @@nurlindafsihotang49 Uhh what that makes no sense seeing as still lots of nations un Europe still used feudalism like Russia and other great powers. And capitalism has been the best amd most useful economic system for over 400 years. What would you pefer? Socialism?

    • @MrWassup45
      @MrWassup45 4 роки тому +2

      @@nurlindafsihotang49 except the prevailing economic system for european nations that were colonizing america at the time wasnt capitalism it was mercantilism

  • @rcvnow1712
    @rcvnow1712 5 років тому +705

    “I used the electoral college to destroy the electoral college”
    -Thanos (probably)

    • @aandwdabest
      @aandwdabest 5 років тому +11

      Rcv Now the electoral college served no more purpose but beyond temptations

    • @epoole1
      @epoole1 5 років тому +8

      *President Thanos

    • @MightyElemental
      @MightyElemental 5 років тому +15

      ​@@epoole1 The hardest decisions require the strongest wills

    • @epoole1
      @epoole1 5 років тому

      @left-wingers-are-terrorists das cool but I don't remember askin...

  • @yoyu2567
    @yoyu2567 4 роки тому +2121

    This feels like how a civil war starts

    • @Zakjuh
      @Zakjuh 4 роки тому +279

      Considering the current situation, it's probably the perfect spark to really kick off that long awaited civil war.

    • @cockatoo010
      @cockatoo010 4 роки тому +161

      Well, the previous civil war did start because of the poutcome of an election, so it's not crazy

    • @donut_seed9813
      @donut_seed9813 4 роки тому +90

      prepare for the boogaloo

    • @otimo144
      @otimo144 4 роки тому +129

      @@Zakjuh Civil War 2? One side doesn't believe in weapons! More like Civil slaughter.

    • @4orange843
      @4orange843 4 роки тому +5

      @@ReptilianLepton ngl i thought of that but was unsure if it was in the constution or the articles of confederation

  • @DogWalkerBill
    @DogWalkerBill 3 роки тому +15

    The real problem is the number of House Reps was set at 435 back in 1910 when our population was only about 90 million. Thus, about 1 House Rep for every 200,000 people. Today we are a population of 328 million, and 435 House Reps results in 1 House Rep for every 754,000 people. (Much eroding everyone's "enfranchisement" in Congress and the EC!) If we had the same proportion today, (i to 200k) we would have about 1640 House Reps. Congress would be changed radically and so would the Electoral College, since there would be 1691 EC Electors! And it would all be perfectly constitutional!
    (I mean, the House of Representative is supposed to represent THE POPULTION OF TODAY! Right? And NOT the population of 1910!)

  • @zadinal
    @zadinal 5 років тому +251

    Do you even own land? Damn that is a one hell of an old school burn.

  • @markog1999
    @markog1999 5 років тому +280

    Excited to see that you're back with some classic grey content - the Electoral College!
    How many channels can make that claim.

  • @timothysmall720
    @timothysmall720 5 років тому +293

    1:25 I like how Rhode Island is outside complaining

    • @kheo
      @kheo 5 років тому +9

      I like how RI started laughing at "The People" lol

    • @MrPopoCoalti
      @MrPopoCoalti 5 років тому +2

      So why is Rhode Island outside? Does it mean something?

    • @tajhaybanks8656
      @tajhaybanks8656 5 років тому +2

      @@MrPopoCoalti they refused to come to the constitutional Congress

    • @MrPopoCoalti
      @MrPopoCoalti 5 років тому

      @@tajhaybanks8656 Thank you

  • @ZeldaFan2004
    @ZeldaFan2004 2 роки тому +20

    My question though is... what happens if members of this plan don't follow through? Like they have enough members for it to go into effect and during the next election some members don't follow the nationwide majority? Is there a consequence? Because if it is true that states can cast their votes however they like, it sounds like there wouldn't be and if there isn't any consequence for not following through, then I see little chance of this plan actually working out in the end. Or, at least, not being a long term solution.

  • @connorhealy3562
    @connorhealy3562 5 років тому +1135

    Future Americans: “What happened to the Electoral College?”
    CGP Grey: “I used the college to destroy the college.”

    • @GamerFromJump
      @GamerFromJump 5 років тому +11

      Connor Healy - Assuming America even exists and isn’t Mexico del Norte.

    • @seanmac1793
      @seanmac1793 5 років тому +7

      I am the collage.

    • @dargondude2375
      @dargondude2375 5 років тому +15

      @@GamerFromJump How would it become mexico del norte? Does mexico sponsor reigime change in the United States? Do they conquer it through military conquest? Does Mexico become the senate?

    • @MaxJey2
      @MaxJey2 5 років тому +3

      Dargon Dude well... is either north México or south canada.

    • @joesmith701
      @joesmith701 5 років тому +3

      @@MaxJey2 south Canada sounds more realistic as Mexico has way less power/Influence even compared to Canada. However I think since America has so many guns that even they would have a hard time taking over that it would just be a similar situation as the Civil war join one side of America as you would have America A and America B

  • @ahscott2001
    @ahscott2001 5 років тому +259

    If you want to give any branch of government more or less power, just hire an electrician to change the number of outlets in the Oval Office, Supreme Court, or Congress.

    • @cristianvillanueva8782
      @cristianvillanueva8782 5 років тому +17

      I am ashamed to say this took me more than a second to understand

    • @ivanov093
      @ivanov093 5 років тому +15

      Nah, that just gives them more access to power. What you really want to do is either add a generator or maybe install some solar panels.

    • @stuartd9741
      @stuartd9741 5 років тому

      Lol you win the internet with this comment today..
      .......
      One could also (secretly) install remote power outlet controllers hidden inside the drywall/lathe & plaster - to control how and when branches of Government have access to power.
      Would be fun to watch.
      Now why dies that sound familiar?🤔

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae 5 років тому

      @@ivanov093 The White House actually did already have solar panels more than 30 years ago.

    • @phoephoe795
      @phoephoe795 5 років тому +1

      Electrician here- just switch the breakers/fuses out for a different size. Far easier than installing outlets.

  • @xczechr
    @xczechr 5 років тому +347

    "The states less populous produce preponderate presidential picking power per person." Awesome alliteration, as always.

    • @NecroAsphyxia
      @NecroAsphyxia 5 років тому +7

      The issue with this idea though is that it takes manybstates to equal the votinf power of 1 state...
      California has 50 votes where as the smallest states only have 3... You would need nearly all the bread basket to equal 1 california. Once you tack on Illinois (bevause chicago single handedly controls the whole state), and NY, you pretty much have a HUGE lead right there.

    • @himani8927
      @himani8927 5 років тому +38

      @@NecroAsphyxia But that's precisely because there are SO many people living in California. Why should those people be punished and told their opinion matters less just because they live in a populous area? Land doesn't have rights, people do - and people deserve the right to a fair vote.

    • @travisrhodus1362
      @travisrhodus1362 5 років тому

      @@NecroAsphyxia But don't you see how broken it is? Right now small states that shouldn't deserve 1 whole rep get a whole rep anyway, while CA is undercut +10 reps. & as small states gets smaller & large states get larger that script will flip & CA will have too many votes absolutely anyway.
      Along w/ this meta initiative we need to triple the # of reps so as for 1 to reasonably keep their finger on the pulse of the ppl; & in turn the ppl keep the official to account. We also need to end insistence on 1st past the post vote tally. I say Borda count for high office & STV for reps.

    • @travisrhodus1362
      @travisrhodus1362 5 років тому +6

      @@NecroAsphyxia Right now small rural states are cut loose by their senators & presidential candidates alike. A popular vote will make them try harder; 2016 was decided by ~70K in just a couple counties. Majority rule>minority rule>despotic unaccountable rule.

    • @travisrhodus1362
      @travisrhodus1362 5 років тому +10

      @Ian Jones Maybe I'm not being clear enough? Candidates don't give a shit about states big or small right now! They go to the same 5 counties in the same 5 swing states 11/10. That is undemocratic, penultimate only to an actual unchecked despot. The top 20 cities being visited is much more democratic than visiting 0. Pls don't be a single issue voter that cuts off his nose to spite his face. I don't mean disrespect; IDK how else to describe it?

  • @MonkeyJedi99
    @MonkeyJedi99 2 роки тому +22

    The Electoral College probably made sense when counting votes and reporting those counts could take months.
    Now (barring idiocy) it takes days to a couple of weeks to count, and moments to report the results.
    -
    And for anyone who thinks the Electoral College is a genius idea, remember it came from the same minds that said Governors should select their state's senators. Oh, and that women, non-land owners, and humans who were property didn't get a vote.