In Germany we haven't this issues bercause our trucks have strickt dimensions: Our hook stands out further. So w will not destroy out Trucks By loading a Dumpster. My Truck is a 2002 Mercedes-Benz Actros MP1 with 6x4 chassis 4.50 Meters wheelbase and Meiller Hooklift 👍🏽 Manual 16 gear Shift :D . thanks mate for the Video!
Great video sir. I operated many hook lifts installed on military PLS chassis' while in the army working as a foreman in a maintenance platoon. If ever in this situation, we would often drive forward (if ample space was available) while still connected, straightening out the equipment being loaded. Is that something that works with this application or is one of those "not recommended by manufacturer" scenarios?
Just a note. Before your driver pulls off he’s supposed to depress the brakes with the window down to listen for audible air leaks. That’s how the driver is inside and outside at the same time. Just a note from a 3million miler tanker driver. And no you won’t know where it’s coming from but you will know you have a leak, that’s when the mechanic comes in before you move.
You can also watch for the air gauge to drop. I think for the brake test you release parking brake, apply service brake, after initial psi drop the psi shouldn't drop more than 3 psi over a minute
Single axles are better for neighborhoods, my company does a lot of residential dumpsters and their double axles do the construction and other big business, and plus better to maneuver and not damage the customers driveways but every company is different my company uses both
The main deciding factor is: how much weight do you plan to be hauling? In my particular jurisdiction…. 33,000# is the limit for GVW with a single axle truck (all standard width tires). If you never go heavier than that, there are advantages to the single axle (someone else pointed out a few). But if you have plans to take on jobs using larger boxes, and hauling heavier materials…. You will need larger trucks with more axles. If you have to choose one truck (can’t afford multiple trucks)…. You might go with the largest truck that can also handle the smaller boxes. My company has trucks ranging from little single axle units (not much larger than a pickup truck) to handle 12’ boxes, up to 5 tons…. To midsize trucks (single axle with lift axles added) to handle 16’ boxes, up to 10 tons…. Up to full size (twin screw, plus two lift axles) which handle 40 and 50 yard containers, and can gross up to (I think) 64,000#. You have to decide what best suits your business. If you’re just starting out…. The usual approach is to start off with the smaller truck and boxes, and grow your business before upgrading to/or adding the truck that can handle the next step up in container size. That brings up a point that I haven’t seen addressed in anyone’s videos yet: The hooklift systems themselves are divided into 3 groups (3 that I know of) and are not all interchangeable. That is…. Just as the small system designed to handle a 12’ box can’t pick up a 22’ box…. The system designed to handle the 22’ box can’t pick up the 12’ box. Each system has its own range of capability, and are not compatible with other ranges. If you want a single truck that is compatible with every container size (from 10 yard to 50 yard)…. The only way to do that (as far as I know) is to go with a cable hoist system. Personally…. I find operating a hooklift MUCH more convenient. Another thing to consider is…. If you plan to haul for other carriers, or spot containers at a customer’s location where THEY will need to move it around…. You have to make your equipment compatible with THEIRS. In such cases, you kind of have to go with whatever system is common in your region. Whew…. Didn’t mean to write a book, but more kept coming to mind as I typed, lol
@Bob in the West hook truck can and do 10 yard boxes. You just don't bring the box as far forward when it's up onto the truck like you would with the other size boxes. Hook trucks, in my opinion, are much better because once you have the box down, you can move it around like a trailer. You also don't need to get out to unhook the hook like you do the cable truck. Less maintenance as well.
@@codylee4000 … Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against hooklift. To the contrary, I prefer it over cable hoist. However, if your hooklift system is designed for 22 foot boxes, and you try picking up a 12 foot box, the box will pass the truck’s main/rear rollers before you even get the hoist frame into the down position. They are not all interchangeable. If you need to have a single truck, capable of accommodating such variance in box length…. you have two options (that I’m aware of): Cable hoist…. Or, if you absolutely refuse to get out to toss a hook, continuous chain hoist. Unless you want to go “real old school” and use the old “Dempsey hoist” system…. Which are PAINFULLY slow, and have certain inherent safety concerns (box totally unsecured while transferring from one hook to the next). Continuous chain looks like a decent system, but I’ve never personally used one, so I can’t say I would know if it has any flaws that would bother me.
Looking for your honest opinion. What would be a better route for starting a roll off dumpster business. I can get a used mack mr600 and havea 50k palfinger lift put on a truck for the same price as a ftr truck. What would be the better route to go? My other thoughts is the larger truck would be better for possible side jobs like hauling gravel or hay or other bulk items. But the main money focus would be trash hauling.
Buy a fork truck, not a cable truck. As far as size, I would say bigger the better. Turning radius is a little lacking on the bigger truck, but that doesn't matter if you can't pick up a bin because of weight.
My company has 3 different size trucks (correlating with 3 different hoist sizes) to handle all of the container sizes. I think there is a limited amount of “crossover” between the small and midsize trucks. But the large trucks can only pick up boxes 22’ or longer. 50 yard containers are roughly 24’ long, and I’m pretty sure that’s the longest you can go without breaking the “overhang” laws.
My bins are designed by mennonites in central ontario canada,not one has the front protrusion like those bins.In fact,there angled under the front of the bin like a sleigh runner.They make the nicest,cheapest bulk bins here in ontario.Anyway,good video if your bins are like these ones.
In proper pre trip you should roll down your window, have parking brake and engine off and depress brake pedal for 60 seconds. You listen and watch the air gauge. That's how you know a brake can or service line is bad. You should have no more than 3lb air loss in 60 seconds.
1. You cut off those sharp edges, they are stupid. 2. If you reverse same time when you are pullin you won't damage ground. The first part of the video was quite messy 😅
“A lot of people hate on DOT, but…” The simple truth of the matter is, if you are running your business properly, including proper maintenance of your equipment…. DOT generally isn’t a big problem. Occasionally, they might get a little carried away…. But that really isn’t the norm. Of course…. If you have a bad attitude…. Things can get worse, real quick 😂
Who makes a good fifth th wheel hook trailer or something that will take anywhere from 12,000 to 24,000 pounds may be even more 12 to 20 feet long for container wise I have a CDL a and I drive tractor-trailer cross country pop I’m just thinking of a fifth wheel hook up for my 1 ton or 550 at home and I ran a 40 foot Bentley for years cable behind a 379 Peterbilt I don’t want anything to make money with, but something that is going to last I can use the trailer as a flatbed or a dump trailer or pick up construction debris I know there is one company up in Canada. Honestly I don’t like the way they’re made I did see another one, but I didn’t save the information.
You didn't need to rip up the yard like that. Back up at the same time you're lifting the bin. The tires on the bin won't move. Your truck is a small truck though.
the jib should not be extended while in the up and down mode the can was full of house trash and very light. As I mention in the video this is not recommenced but bending a jib with house trash is not possible. Would not void warranty the factory would not replace a bent jib under warranty anyway.
I had a newly replaced jib cylinder go bad and they said they didn't want to warranty it because "it's always caused by people lifting with jib out". I have never lifted a box with the jib out they agreed to replace it. A failed jib cylinder is a warranty item but there is video proof for them to deny your claim of you have a failure. If you have the proper pin out bull nose and bumper design you can pull a box at at least 15 degrees off.
@@leemaniac4737 … Lol My company has one corner in our yard where particular boxes are stored. I’m pretty sure the runs those boxes are used for, are runs they can only get new guys to do. About every 3 months or so, someone has to go over there with a loader to re-level the area. I’m astonished by how much damage some guys can do. More astonishing, is the fact that, apparently they believe that is “normal” 😂
4kvideofunjunky I had everything lined up to get a truck at the end of February and start the business, but I decided to hold off because of the virus. Hoping that it’ll pass/ we recover soon and next spring I’ll be able to start! Kinda disappointed I wasn’t able to this year
In Germany we haven't this issues bercause our trucks have strickt dimensions: Our hook stands out further. So w will not destroy out Trucks By loading a Dumpster. My Truck is a 2002 Mercedes-Benz Actros MP1 with 6x4 chassis 4.50 Meters wheelbase and Meiller Hooklift 👍🏽 Manual 16 gear Shift :D
. thanks mate for the Video!
Yes and I wish we had same options
If you let the truck roll back as you pick the container up you can turn and back right under it
not with a palfinger T50 notice the video it was hitting before I had a chance to roll at all
Great video sir. I operated many hook lifts installed on military PLS chassis' while in the army working as a foreman in a maintenance platoon. If ever in this situation, we would often drive forward (if ample space was available) while still connected, straightening out the equipment being loaded. Is that something that works with this application or is one of those "not recommended by manufacturer" scenarios?
No room in this situation
Just a note. Before your driver pulls off he’s supposed to depress the brakes with the window down to listen for audible air leaks. That’s how the driver is inside and outside at the same time. Just a note from a 3million miler tanker driver. And no you won’t know where it’s coming from but you will know you have a leak, that’s when the mechanic comes in before you move.
the1stbornson thank you so much for the input I will use that in court when in reopened and we are fighting it but who knows once again thanks
You can also watch for the air gauge to drop. I think for the brake test you release parking brake, apply service brake, after initial psi drop the psi shouldn't drop more than 3 psi over a minute
Truck should have full air and be turned off first. I got my CDL this year so I remember.
That Palfinger color combo really does make that truck look nice man!!
thanks buddy I love it also
Are all your dumpsters cable and hook? So you could pick them up with either truck?
was thinking that also after I watched it myself
What’s your opinion on single axle roll off trucks
I pass on it two axle only
Single axles are better for neighborhoods, my company does a lot of residential dumpsters and their double axles do the construction and other big business, and plus better to maneuver and not damage the customers driveways but every company is different my company uses both
The main deciding factor is: how much weight do you plan to be hauling?
In my particular jurisdiction…. 33,000# is the limit for GVW with a single axle truck (all standard width tires). If you never go heavier than that, there are advantages to the single axle (someone else pointed out a few).
But if you have plans to take on jobs using larger boxes, and hauling heavier materials…. You will need larger trucks with more axles.
If you have to choose one truck (can’t afford multiple trucks)…. You might go with the largest truck that can also handle the smaller boxes.
My company has trucks ranging from little single axle units (not much larger than a pickup truck) to handle 12’ boxes, up to 5 tons…. To midsize trucks (single axle with lift axles added) to handle 16’ boxes, up to 10 tons…. Up to full size (twin screw, plus two lift axles) which handle 40 and 50 yard containers, and can gross up to (I think) 64,000#.
You have to decide what best suits your business.
If you’re just starting out…. The usual approach is to start off with the smaller truck and boxes, and grow your business before upgrading to/or adding the truck that can handle the next step up in container size.
That brings up a point that I haven’t seen addressed in anyone’s videos yet:
The hooklift systems themselves are divided into 3 groups (3 that I know of) and are not all interchangeable.
That is…. Just as the small system designed to handle a 12’ box can’t pick up a 22’ box…. The system designed to handle the 22’ box can’t pick up the 12’ box. Each system has its own range of capability, and are not compatible with other ranges.
If you want a single truck that is compatible with every container size (from 10 yard to 50 yard)…. The only way to do that (as far as I know) is to go with a cable hoist system.
Personally…. I find operating a hooklift MUCH more convenient.
Another thing to consider is…. If you plan to haul for other carriers, or spot containers at a customer’s location where THEY will need to move it around…. You have to make your equipment compatible with THEIRS. In such cases, you kind of have to go with whatever system is common in your region.
Whew…. Didn’t mean to write a book, but more kept coming to mind as I typed, lol
@Bob in the West hook truck can and do 10 yard boxes. You just don't bring the box as far forward when it's up onto the truck like you would with the other size boxes. Hook trucks, in my opinion, are much better because once you have the box down, you can move it around like a trailer. You also don't need to get out to unhook the hook like you do the cable truck. Less maintenance as well.
@@codylee4000 …
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against hooklift.
To the contrary, I prefer it over cable hoist.
However, if your hooklift system is designed for 22 foot boxes, and you try picking up a 12 foot box, the box will pass the truck’s main/rear rollers before you even get the hoist frame into the down position.
They are not all interchangeable.
If you need to have a single truck, capable of accommodating such variance in box length…. you have two options (that I’m aware of):
Cable hoist…. Or, if you absolutely refuse to get out to toss a hook, continuous chain hoist.
Unless you want to go “real old school” and use the old “Dempsey hoist” system…. Which are PAINFULLY slow, and have certain inherent safety concerns (box totally unsecured while transferring from one hook to the next).
Continuous chain looks like a decent system, but I’ve never personally used one, so I can’t say I would know if it has any flaws that would bother me.
Looking for your honest opinion. What would be a better route for starting a roll off dumpster business. I can get a used mack mr600 and havea 50k palfinger lift put on a truck for the same price as a ftr truck. What would be the better route to go? My other thoughts is the larger truck would be better for possible side jobs like hauling gravel or hay or other bulk items. But the main money focus would be trash hauling.
get a cheap tandem in my opinion
Buy a fork truck, not a cable truck. As far as size, I would say bigger the better. Turning radius is a little lacking on the bigger truck, but that doesn't matter if you can't pick up a bin because of weight.
You able to put any length dumpster on a hooklift truck?
on mine 16-22 feet only
My company has 3 different size trucks (correlating with 3 different hoist sizes) to handle all of the container sizes.
I think there is a limited amount of “crossover” between the small and midsize trucks. But the large trucks can only pick up boxes 22’ or longer. 50 yard containers are roughly 24’ long, and I’m pretty sure that’s the longest you can go without breaking the “overhang” laws.
I’ve got a question, maybe you’ve addressed it in a video before, but what’s the difference between a dual articulating vs single?
one has dump and take off the other has take off only
The articulating is far less versatile. The slide lift is insane, damn near 90 degree load capability.
Great example 👍
Thanks for the props
Cool! Nice video🤗✌️
Thanks for the Sub thanks fir watching
My bins are designed by mennonites in central ontario canada,not one has the front protrusion like those bins.In fact,there angled under the front of the bin like a sleigh runner.They make the nicest,cheapest bulk bins here in ontario.Anyway,good video if your bins are like these ones.
Are these the people out in the kitchener waterloo area?
thanks fir the sub if you did
where is that
1:42
Thanks appreciate it
Thank you also
No bad day guys
Agreed
In proper pre trip you should roll down your window, have parking brake and engine off and depress brake pedal for 60 seconds. You listen and watch the air gauge. That's how you know a brake can or service line is bad. You should have no more than 3lb air loss in 60 seconds.
good advice for the people watching
1. You cut off those sharp edges, they are stupid.
2. If you reverse same time when you are pullin you won't damage ground.
The first part of the video was quite messy 😅
Yes the sharpe points are gone now
Loading is ok but what about the difusing?
*unloading
What is that
My dad had two hooklifts. He sold one. Great info btw
thanks for the props more cool videos to come after the Virus crap
“A lot of people hate on DOT, but…”
The simple truth of the matter is, if you are running your business properly, including proper maintenance of your equipment…. DOT generally isn’t a big problem.
Occasionally, they might get a little carried away…. But that really isn’t the norm.
Of course…. If you have a bad attitude…. Things can get worse, real quick 😂
Who makes a good fifth th wheel hook trailer or something that will take anywhere from 12,000 to 24,000 pounds may be even more 12 to 20 feet long for container wise I have a CDL a and I drive tractor-trailer cross country pop I’m just thinking of a fifth wheel hook up for my 1 ton or 550 at home and I ran a 40 foot Bentley for years cable behind a 379 Peterbilt I don’t want anything to make money with, but something that is going to last I can use the trailer as a flatbed or a dump trailer or pick up construction debris I know there is one company up in Canada. Honestly I don’t like the way they’re made I did see another one, but I didn’t save the information.
man Sorry I have no idea
Love my palfinger
Wheres all the videos dont stop now
No I will be back after covid
You didn't need to rip up the yard like that. Back up at the same time you're lifting the bin. The tires on the bin won't move. Your truck is a small truck though.
Watch video I could not back up was rocks in the way I have been driving hook for 15 years
the bigger ones LOL
Just don't rent that style of dumpster out for a concrete or heavy job.
We use small cans only for concrete
Peterbuilt ball caps, Kenworth truck.......Identity complex!
Yes but have both brand trucks LOL
Do more videos
We are been slow on my views kinda hard to stay motivated
You just voided your palfinger warranty.
thanks for the input and checking out the video please feel free comment spread any input the community could use.
Peter Wood how did he void his warranty?
the jib should not be extended while in the up and down mode the can was full of house trash and very light. As I mention in the video this is not recommenced but bending a jib with house trash is not possible. Would not void warranty the factory would not replace a bent jib under warranty anyway.
I had a newly replaced jib cylinder go bad and they said they didn't want to warranty it because "it's always caused by people lifting with jib out". I have never lifted a box with the jib out they agreed to replace it. A failed jib cylinder is a warranty item but there is video proof for them to deny your claim of you have a failure. If you have the proper pin out bull nose and bumper design you can pull a box at at least 15 degrees off.
Not necessarily. You have to extend the jib arm when loading onto a hook loader trailer in order to push the bin back onto the trailer
if i did that much dmg to the ground i would get killled by my boss and costumer xD
Was a dirt lot
@@LaRobertos so? no dmg allowed
@@leemaniac4737 …
Lol
My company has one corner in our yard where particular boxes are stored.
I’m pretty sure the runs those boxes are used for, are runs they can only get new guys to do.
About every 3 months or so, someone has to go over there with a loader to re-level the area.
I’m astonished by how much damage some guys can do. More astonishing, is the fact that, apparently they believe that is “normal” 😂
How’s business going? Slowed down due to the virus?
yes about 10 percent how about you?
4kvideofunjunky I had everything lined up to get a truck at the end of February and start the business, but I decided to hold off because of the virus. Hoping that it’ll pass/ we recover soon and next spring I’ll be able to start! Kinda disappointed I wasn’t able to this year
@@drewmurphy2796 me to dont wait to long
4kvideofunjunky have to see what happens with the virus and the economy. I don’t think I can wait another year
4kvideofunjunky just curious how big is your lot where you store the dumpstersV
Driving a Kenworth truck and wearing Peterbilt hat???
Keep you wondering LOL
Is this guy serious? Extend the boom omg so obvious
Thanks for watching hope it helped